NC rejects black voters' mail in ballots; Russian election meddling confirmed; Justice Ginsburg dies

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M Today's third September twenty September two thousand and twenty

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Coming up on rolland Martin on the filtered New Poland
shows that Jamie Harrison his tied with Sarah Lindsey Graham
and South Carolina. We'll talk about whether he can actually win.
Attorney General Bill Barr slams Black Lives matter and compares
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Donald Trump last nineteen project at his pretty much white meeting,

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just strolling it. He's spooky stressed. She's filled the question

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though he's rolled in Martin. Republican South Carolina Senator Lindsey
Graham is tied with the Democratic challenger, Jamie Harrison for

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the US Senate race, according to a new Quinnipiac University
survey release yesterday. The post shows both Graham and Harrison
at forty eight percent among likely South Carolina voters. Since
when he is seating two thousand and two, Grandma has
been easily re elected by double digit margins. Jonamy now
to discuss this race, it's med Can our national politics
reporter for the Associated Press based there in South Carolina. Meg.

(03:06):
Are these polls real? I mean, are you are we
actually seeing this race this type in South Carolina pay roll?
And it's always good to be back with you, you know,
these polls are they're really something? Um? But again let's
not send Lindsey Graham back to Washington for fourth term.
Let's put a Democrat in office in representing this state.

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But again, it's it's really difficult to take the temperature
in this state when you look at a race that
has had a lot of campaign fundraising numbers that really
eye popping to look at both sides of the race
in terms of the money that's been brought in. Today,
DSCC announces that they're spending seven figures on this state
in the next what is it, forty three forty four

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days now until election day, So that's a lot of
money that's going to be putting a lot more TV ads,
a lot more digital ads, and giving voters a lot
more of the ads and all of the stuff that
we've really been seeing here for well over a year
now from Jamie Harrison and Lindsay Graham. But it's it's
not election day yet, and that's the one that really
matters and obviously posed posed our polls, But the reality

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is this here. Democrats would not be putting these kind
of resources into a south racist South Carolina if they
did not think that this was possible. Uh what has
happened in that state? Uh, to even even show a
Harrison running this tight? Is it dissatisfaction with Donald Trump?
He wants South Carolina about what sixteen points in two

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thousand and sixteen. Pulling down a right now shows he's
only up four. Uh. Is it the suburbs of South Carolina?
What's going on? Uh? In that state? Uh? From your perspective,
we are seeing a lot of changes in the electorate
here in South Carolina. You're absolutely right that Donald Trump
had a large, marginal victory here in his last campaign

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in Lindsay Graham defeated his Democratic challenger by double digits
there well. But here in South Carolina, particularly in the
coastal areas in and around Charleston, there's been an influx
of people moving here from places outside the state. South
Carolina is lovely. I've lived here and reported on politics
for fifteen years, and we're seeing a lot of people

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coming from more politically liberal areas of the country and
making South Carolina their home. I'm not saying that South
Carolina is going out and out blue in I'm not
going to make that prediction. But there are some changes
in terms of the voters who now consider themselves South
Carolinians and who they're gonna whom they're going to be
supporting in the Senate race, in congressional races like Joe Cunningham,

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who is trying to defend his flip of that Charleston
congressional seat from and keep it out of Republican hands.
So there are a lot of different people who represent
the electorate here, and that does represent perhaps some of
the mentality of voters saying, well, perhaps we're ready to
look more closely at a Democratic candidates statewide than we

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had before. But we also saw a massive, massive Democratic
turnout in the primary there, higher numbers than what we
even saw when Obama ran in two thousand and eight.
And know full well that African Americans make up fifty
some say upards of Democratic voters. Uh. That I think
was a telltale sign in terms of how Democrats are

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fired up in that state about getting rid of Donald
Trump and those who support them. There's a lot of
interest here, absolutely, right. The Democratic primary contest, which went
on for over two years as far as I was
involved with it, gained a lot of attention and was,
as you know, a Democratic contest. There wasn't a Republican
primary here, So the Democrats really had the stage for

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well over a year in terms of really making their
cases and arguing the party's perspectives on issues. But let's remember,
let's think back to the sixteen campaign for the presidential race,
Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton were tied here in South
Carolina at that point. So even though we do see
these polls of statewide voters tightening, even though Democrats have

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been pouring a lot of national attention and money into
this race, we've seen packs pop up, including the Lindsay
Must Go pack, which is spending three hundred thousand dollars
just this week on a television ad in the Charleston
area trying to make the case against Lindsay Graham. Yes,
there is a lot of attention and focus statewide in
terms of making that case that Democrats need to represent

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the statewide, the state statewide, need to go to the Senate,
needs to perhaps occupy the White House on behalf of
South Carolina. So you're right, we wouldn't be seeing a
lot of that attention if not for the presidential campaign
and the very heavily contested primary that we just went through.
But this does so still South Carolina a Democrat has

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not one here statewide in fifteen years. So this is
still Lindsay Graham's at this point his race to lose
African American. Are we seeing increasing black voter registration there? Again?
I know, um Jamie Harrison is really depending upon a
black support there. Are we look, a lot of Black
voles cannot stand Donald Trump. We saw how they helped

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Joe Biden win and really correct his campaign when he
want in February. Are we seeing intensity there among black voters?
There is a lot of intensity. There's a lot of
activity among black voters here in South Carolina. You're right
that they do make up most of the Democratic voters here,
but obviously those aren't the only folks who are going

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to the polls in November. So yes, Jamie Harrison is
focusing intently on black voters in South Carolina. He knows
that he needs their support in order to make a
strong case against Lindsey Graham. But he doesn't just need
black voters. He needs a very broad base of support
to alst a three term Republican incumbent from a Senate

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seat in South Carolina. So yes, there's a lot of
focus on black voters, but he needs to be broadening
as well. Alright, Mad Canard Associated Press was really appreciative.
Thanks a lot anytime. All right, go to my panel.
Eric Savage Wilson hosts Savage Politics podcast, dr Grad Cards
her Department of Africa American Studies at Howard University, and
recy Covert Black Women Views. Uh, folks, we are uh.

(09:18):
Look under a fifty days left. Go at pulographic of
people showing how many days left when it comes to
this election fourty six days four to six days before
the election. We're already seeing what is happening across the
country where Donal Trump and his people are trying to
really target voters, going after a different states, trying to
keep them from even having really elections. Go to my

(09:40):
iPad please. Uh. This is the vote dot org website
where you can check your registration. I need every single
one of you to double check your registration. I've had
people who support watched this show tell me that they
had registration cards in their hands and they realized that
they had been purged. So every person needs the first
check your registration. More than three hundred thousand people were

(10:02):
pershed in Georgia, a hundred and ninety eight thousand of them.
We're in error. Folks. That was the election that determined
that allow Brian Kimp to beat Stacy Abrals. That was stolen.
So we have to understand that. And so I want
to start with you, Greg when we look at in
terms of this RACI in South Carolina, Yes, the polls
are showing that they are tied right now. Where you

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look at what's happening in North Carolina where the Democrat,
Uh Cunningham is up six, six to eight points over
Republican Tom Tiller's. You look at what's happening in Arizona,
Mark Kelly, he is up ten points against Msally in Arizona.
You look at a twelve point lead by the Democrat
over Susan Collins in Maine. You also see Amy McGrath.

(10:45):
I think the people of Kentucky should realize they screwed up,
not uh not, given the primary win that Charles Booker,
she's down twelve points with all that money that she has,
down twelve points to Mitch McConnell. Because frankly, she's a
boring candidates, she's Republican light. But what we're what we're
dealing with here Poser coming out even showing Joe Biden
doing much better among college educated white voters in Arizona,

(11:08):
in Minnesota, is in Wisconsin. And so what this comes
down to, Gregor's pure and simple, like any election is
turned out. Can you turn out more of your people
than the other side. Yeah, you're right wrong, It's very simple. Um,
the polls are lying because many white voters are lying.
I'm gonna call them liars, but they are lying. The

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Bradley effect that maybe some of the viewers who are
too young to remember the mayor of Los Angeles, Tom Bradley,
when poled like he was up to the election and
then he lost that first election because white people lied
to the posters so you could ignore the polls. Election
day is not the first Tuesday in November. It is
the first Tuesday November in South Carolina because there's no

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early voting, right, you gotta bring that photo I D.
They let you bring you down concealed carry license, but
no student I D. So they've set it up, those
white supremacists in that old reef. The first state to
seceed from the Union South Carolina. However, U voting day
in North Carolina is um October the fifteen. You can
vote on the fifteen sixteen seventeen on the way to

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the thirty one of October. Bank the vote. In Arizona
early votings, voting starts on the seventh, So don't think
of November the first Tuesday. November is voting day. Think
of the first day. Uh. I think rather October the seventh,
as you're voting day. Let's go out here and bank
the vote, so that all you do in November is

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all the people that voted, go get the ones that
didn't and take them to the poll because I don't
trust the mail either, frankly. But the point is that
Jamie Harrison is behind in South Carolina. Ignore the polls. Vote. Yeah,
I mean that's one of the points that that we've
been saying to receive at the end of the day,
that that you can't depend on poll polls are important though,

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because it gives you a snapshot of where the race
is right now. My sp we had on the show
the other day. He between you earlier. He is down
five points to Cindy hid Smith in Mississippi. I mean again,
if Democrats actually invested money in South Carolina, Uh, you
excuse me, in Mississippi, that could be closer. Look, he
only lost by sixty thousand votes when he ran against

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her in two thousand eighteen. And so turn out, turnout, turnout,
And again what I need Black people. Look, I know
that people who watched me who are white and Latino.
But here's a deal, Black people. In order for us
to affect change, we must maximize our power. It does
not make sense in the past, but Jamie is trying
to do. You had a corver million black people in
South Carolina not registered to vote. You had, You've got

(13:36):
hundreds of thousands in Georgia, You've got people in Mississippi. Again,
this is no time to be sitting on your ass
doing nothing right. No, I mean we have no choice. Like,
we literally do not have any choice. Um. I am
not a poletruther. So I do believe that the polls
can be instructed in terms of like, for instance, it's
a better investment to put money towards James Harrison versus

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Amy McGrath. I know conventional wisdom. She's a white woman,
and you know, can knock it off. Oh, she was,
she's she's a veteran and all the sort of stuff. Yeah,
but she's bored as hell. She's not interesting. And again,
the fact that she spent all that money and barely
beat Booker, shows her weakness as a candidate, right and

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so and so. Polls can be a gift in a curse.
They could be a gift in the case of Jamie Harrison,
where it shows a much closer race than anybody would
have predicted. I do think that the Democrats, generally speaking,
are better positions then um, then the media would like
to make this more of a horse race. But regardless
of what the post say, I will say that the
most important thing is banking the vote. As doctor Carr mentioned,

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we cannot rely on polls because then you have the
people that would say, oh, there's no point, this is
in the bag. I don't have to waste my time.
And then they get to do all these little purity tests,
and they get to do these ridiculous lesser of two
evil kind of calculations where they say, I don't want to,
you know, cast my vote, but black people, you have
so much at stake. I mean not just black people,

(15:02):
but people across the country. I mean, just today, I
don't know if we're going to talk about it. It
came out that Donald Trump his administration stopped the Post
Office from sending out five reusable masks to every single
household in this country in early April. Imagine the lives
that would have been saved if that kind of implement
if that kind of resources would have been sent to

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every single American household. So the way that our government
has been politicized and our public health response has been politicized,
this is literally a matter of life and death. This
isn't a matter of who you like more. This isn't
a matter of personality. It's a matter of life and death.
It's a matter of the economy. If will ever warri back.
Black people have been disproportionately left behind and the so

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called economic recovery that's started to happen as the economy
has reopened. So we have more at stake than anybody else.
If for no other reason, for your own self interests
and for your own survive vote you have to vote.
And it's not good enough to just say on November three,
I'm going to vote. You have to check your registration,
you have to double check it. You have to come

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up with the voting plan, A, B and C. And
if you have it all together, then like you said, um,
I don't remember for his role in or Dr Carr,
bring somebody with you who hasn't already done all those things.
It has to be a collective effort. In two thousand
and twenty, uh, look the game of whiteness is being
played Erica trying. General Bill Barr attacked Black Lives Matter

(16:29):
in a speech yesterday, saying they don't really care about
black lives. He also, of course, had other ridiculous things
to say, even when it came to coronavirus, wearing masks
and slavery. The rule of loyal UH is the foundation
of civilization, including economic prosperity. And that's why these so

(16:56):
called black lives matter. People that as a proposition, and
who can quarrel with the proposition black lives matter. But
they're not interested in black lives. They're interested in they're
interested in props a small number of Blacks who were
killed by police during UH conflict with police, usually less

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than a dozen a year, who they can use as
props to achieve a much broader political agenda. But I
view the question of black lives is not only keeping
people alive, but also having prosperity and flourishing in their communities.

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All right, Now, here's this idiot talking about mask and
civil civil liberties, and he actually invokes slavery. A national lockdown,
stay at home orders is like house arrest. It's the
it's the it's you know, other than slavery, which was
a different kind of restraint. This is the greatest intrusion
on civil liberties in American history. Putting an interesting erica, Um,

(18:01):
I guess he skipped over eighteen seventy seven, uh to
nineteen seven, and we talked about Jim Crow. You know
what's amazing to me rolling about Bill barr Um as
a doctor. Carr has named him a tody when you
look at well, he had that talk that was right
across the slave Bridge, um, the bi Key Bridge in Arlington, Virginia.

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And to hear him first of all say these people,
we already know that he's a white ring, white ring
um supremacists who is very much so wedded to the
ideologue of those of that group. UM, So when he
says these people, we get that. The other part of
it is that Bill barr is very much so on

(18:43):
board with pushing an agenda that destabilizes our democracy and
actually takes away the elements of democracy. So that is
in fact, who we're dealing with. We're not dealing with
an attorney general. We're dealing with a person who's very
much so um on, who is very much said over
and over again through many speeches, UM, and here again

(19:04):
he said through UM this stage in Arlington, Virginia, that
he really believes that the country should be ran by
the person who is supposed to be charged with protecting
us against all enemies, both foreign and domestic, and that
would be the occupant of the White House. So, you know,
hearing this and hearing him compare uh, you know, wearing

(19:26):
a mask to slavery. When we think about shadow slavery
and how it affects and still affects us as Black Americans,
and thinking about um, the trauma, to the trauma that
we are our forefathers and four mothers went through to
get to this country, to the humanization, and then think
about the systemic racism that really um came out of that,

(19:48):
that cropped up out of that. To hear him compare
wearing a mask to that, it makes more sense when
we think about those people who stormed state capitals earlier
in April, demanding spit out of their mouth, UM fermenting
at police officers there, those folks at the state Capital's
demanding that the country be reopened. These are the people

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that he backs and stands with. So this is for
me all of the more reason for people to actually
get up and get ready. I know that early vote
will voting begins in Virginia tomorrow, and that's going to
be for people who are participating in being able to
put their ballots and secure ballot box. But we've got
other cities that are going to be coming up on
in person voting, and as Dr Carr said, that is

(20:34):
what I would encourage people to do. Gear up your
ppe ready and get ready to vote. Greg. Look what
you're dealing with here is this is absolutely We'll talk
a little bit later about Donald Trump's joke of this
commission that he announced today because he's so piste off
of the sixteen nineteen project, but this is the I
would dare say this is the most overt appeal to

(20:57):
whiteness since George Wallace. I mean, I really believe that
that that the most That was Donald Trump and Bill
Barr and Stephen Miller, and only people are doing that.
They're making an even more overt appealed to whiteness than
Ronald Reagan and Lee at Water. And that's in a
lot I would agree with you, Roman, Um, I would

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say even more so in some ways than George Wallace,
Herbert Hoover, the lily white uh A factor party. Right,
that's right, that's right. In fact, that you're right, Rollan,
See you're teaching a night, brother. That's when the GOP
really began to turn towards this white nationalism. It wasn't
very gold Water in sixty four. It's really Herbert Hoover,

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as you say, with the lily white Republican. Well, Hoover
is a representative of that. But that lily white Republicanism
where they make the decision in the first quarter of
the twentieth century, really the first third, right at the
round a great depression to go for white voters and
ignore the black ones. And of course it takes a
long time to deteriorate by the time you get to
gold Water in the sixties, and then eventually Nix and
even Jackie Robinson, who was you know, a Republicans, said

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I can't you know you people are racist? I mean
so that that's exactly right, you know. I love Bill Bardo,
love his daddy who was in the O s s.
In other words, his father cut his I t uh
in a Donald bar in this idea of surveillance and
state power and state authority, even though his father was
a headmaster at a school there in New York. The

(22:25):
reasons I love Bill Barr is because he's not pretending anymore.
He saw him wabbling and seat a little bit when
he started getting little comfortable and stay waddling in there,
and he said the thing, I you know these people
in their neighborhoods man, I don't give a damn what
you think about me. So you've made a mistake, you
and your little friend, uh Stephen Miller, and your other buddy,
Donald Trump, and smiling Mike Pens Here's the mistake you've made.

(22:47):
You assume because we live in the same country, we
share the same values. What that they've overplayed their hand
by dropping all pretenses. They are going. They are determined
to ride this white nationalist terror ride until the wheels
fall out. But here's the mistake they made. They think
that that that that the Alugnans on those wheels are

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a lot tighter than they are in fact. And this
is why we have to break their political backs. This
is not the time to quibble over whether Harris and
Biden are the perfect candidates. No, this is the time
to recognize that you've got a klansman sitting on a
stage talking about you as if you're not part of
his country because you are not part of his country

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in their neighborhoods. What the hell is this? Are you start?
What are we We still got restrictive covenants in the
min You he's not the Attorney general the United States.
He's a thug, waddling toady for a white Nashalist was
president United States, and he has committed to one thing
and one thing only for the last six months and
leading up for the next few days, the reelection of

(23:55):
his man. So they can really show you what they
about if you don't go, We're gonna see what it
is in a minute, because this man right here is
a white national's terrorists. What we what we are dealing
with here with this election? Uh? Received what I keep saying,
you have to leave no doubt. Uh. There is a clear,

(24:15):
blatant attempt literally as we're sitting here. Uh. A federal
judge ruled about an hour ago that Donald Trump and
Lewis did joy quote were involved and a politically motivated
attack on the efficiency of the postal service, and he
is issuing an injunction reversing the changes that have led

(24:35):
to massive mail delays under the joy that literally came
down about an hour or two ago. Uh. And what
you're dealing with is there's a there's a a systematic
attack on every single front a Trump administration today going
after New Jersey, trying to stop them, a state from

(24:57):
county mail in balloce early, trying to stop that from happening.
They're gearing up these people and what Bill Barr Bill
bar as the Attorney General, believes they can do whatever
they want, trying to charge protesters with sedition. They are trying,
they are trying to use And this is what I

(25:17):
keep trying to tell people. They have taken power and
said we're gonna use it. And you've got a Republican
party who doesn't give a damn is not saying a word,
and it's like, hey man, do whatever y'all wanna do.
We're good with it. That's why I keep saying, hashtag
fire Trump in November, hashtag fire GOLP in November. I
have never in my in my in my life. Uh,

(25:40):
spoken as openly against all Republicans. But what they are doing,
I there you you do not have a single profile
encourage of a Republican in office Mitt Romney and he
says some stuff every now and they but I'm talking
about somebody's standing up saying hell, no, this is not

(26:04):
America and this should not be done. And damn my party. No,
they're all complicit, absolutely, And I mean they're leaving no
stone unturned. This is an all hands on deck situation.
This isn't all crooks on deck, all crimes on deck.
Every dirty trick that they can pull, their doing it,

(26:24):
and they're doing it in plain sight. They're not even
being us slick about it there to a starting degree.
They are overplaying their hand because they started some of
these tricks early enough to get these court challenges and
things like that in motion to try to dial back
some of their more obstructionists and suppression tactics. But when
you want to talk about props like Bill barr Is

(26:45):
referring to black victims of police violence as props, no,
a prop is Donald Trump clearing out protesters in lof
Ed Square with tear gas to hold a Bible upside down.
That's a prop in this Department of Justice is stockpiling weapons,
considering the use of hate race, which is absolutely mind

(27:07):
blowing on protesters. As you said, Roman trying to charge
protesters with sedition, which is a crime against the country.
This is just an all out fascist authoritarianism pull that
that Bill Barr is trying to pull in. It really
makes you wonder if this is what they're willing to
do with the election on the line, knowing that are

(27:30):
are banking on the fact that enough people are not
paying enough attention. They're too distracted by these litmus tests,
by these purity tests, by whatever is trying on Twitter
that day to pay attention to the blatant fascism that's
overtaking our government. Imagine what they will do feeling like
they have a mandate if they are to get reelected.
That is the real scary ship that I don't think

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people it's not registering to them right now. Still seeing
people say, oh, there's no difference between Trump in Biden.
Trump is sterilizing immigrants. Bar Is is basically saying your
black life doesn't matter. There is a war on black
and Latino communities. When it comes to coronavirus, when it
comes to criminal justice, when it comes to the economy,

(28:15):
when it comes to every aspect of our society. There
is absolutely unequivocal worlds aparts differences between Trump and buying it,
between Pence and Kamala, between what the Trump what the
Biden Harris administration look like, and what we've seen in
terms of this white nationalist criminal syndicate masquerading as a

(28:36):
presidential or administration. And of course we're gonna get later
testimony by the FBI director about white supremacist and how
he basically says, yeah, Antifa is not an actual organization,
it's an ideology. And so for we's got a jam
packed show for you, gotta go to breakdown. We come back,
we'll talk to Dr Ebony Hilton about coronavirus. Uh, you

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got the President pretty much saying oh no, no no, no, no,
no no. The CDC director he doesn't know, he was mistaken,
So he was mistaken and we're supposed to believe you.
Then you got dumb as Kevin McCarthy, Republican leader in
the House, who says, I trust Trump over the CDC director.
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at its dot gov. Al Right, folks, Uh, listen to
anything that comes out of White House is really hazard
for your health. When it comes to coronavirus. I mean,
we we truly see some of the most some of
the dumbest people you've ever seen, especially when you talk
about um coronavirus. So so yesterday just just watch this

(31:52):
is just this discussion here where uh idiot was being
asked about testimony from the CDC director about wearing mad
as well as a vaccine. And of course this was
the fool head to say, can people trust you on
the pandemic when you're contradicting the head of the c
d C. And because of the great job we've done,

(32:12):
because of the great things we've done in other fields,
also because of the fact that we created ventilators. We
built ventilators by the thousands, and now we're supplying to
the world, because of all of the incredible work we've done.
For governors who are on every call saying this is incredible,
this is great, this is great. Sometimes they're not quite
as friendly at a news conference when you have people

(32:33):
covering it. But we have done a phenomenal job on
COVID nineteen as they like to call it. I call
it other things, but we have done a phenomenal job.
I get calls from other people in other countries. They
can't believe the job we've done. And then they'll say,
is there any way that you could get us ventilators?
I say, right, and then thank you for doing it,

(32:53):
and then said heard mentality as it whatever, but also
saying her Mama dada coronaboulet and Mama dada as cancer. Right,
he doesn't listen. Honestly, there is something wrong with with
Donald Trump, and we all know that at this point.
Um people can choose to ignore it, but when they're
ignored it literally, our country is falling apart in terms

(33:16):
of economics. Our country is falling apart in terms of
management of this pandemic. And our numbers are literally we
we are looking to double the number of covid um
depths that we have now by December. That's how fast
we think this thing is gonna take up during this
blue season. And we're playing around. Yeah, Post Office, Uh,

(33:37):
they revealed that they were gonna see in five masks
to every household in America, but the White House next
it saying we don't want to a laren people. This
is a man who literally said liberate Virginia, liberate Montana.
Um has called people to arms over the Second Amendment
and get saying he doesn't want to alarm people. Meanwhile

(33:59):
in those same states. So Montana right now, since reopening,
has an increase in COVID nineteen cases by five thousand
percent five thousand um. So this whole game that he's
playing with not wanting to be up front. We've heard
the tapes from Bob would work. We know that Trump
knew as far back at least as as March in February,

(34:23):
how deadly COVID nineteen was. So he's playing around with
these words and and promoting and asking people to take
off that mask. To me, that should be criminally investigated
because that sounds like attempted murder when we have a
maternal mortality rate of two point nine percent um. So, yeah,

(34:45):
we need to start holding people accountable. And that's where
I'm confused, is where are the checks and balances in
our country? Um, we are We're a situation now where
the of the children that have died or minority uh,
we're still looking at now. You got the Big Ten.
They've decided to go ahead and play sports even though

(35:06):
we've seen athletes coming down with coronavirus. You get the
l s U head coach ed Orgeron who said most
of his team dot coronavirus and then said, whar we
we don't really know if I guess if if they
got it and then they likely are not gonna get
it again. I don't know who the hell he's talking to. Uh,
And it's just and when you see all these people

(35:28):
trumping others, putting pressure, saying no, we gotta have football,
and and and and then basically brow beating the university
doctors into supporting the position. And that's what I don't
understand because the only person I fear is um God
and my mama. That's it. So you're not gonna bow

(35:49):
brow beat me to say something that I know is wrong.
And at this point, COVID nineteen has not changed its position,
so my stance has not changed from the very beginning.
Um literally go to my YouTube channel. Back in April,
I think I did a post that I said, with children,
do not let your children go out kids. I feel
like they can get infected. We have not seen the

(36:12):
full brunt of what COVID Night team can do. And
sure enough, now what are we seeing. We're seeing our
children getting involved. Early on, people are saying, oh, the
kids aren't being touched what we had them at our homes.
But now people have got comfortable and they're taking them
to the amusement park and they're taking them to football games,
and we're seeing in studies the ultimate end is if

(36:32):
someone dies. But again I've said this time and time
again on your show that we have a subset of
people who have recovered who now have permanent damage to
their brain and that they're having strokes. They have permanent
damage to their heart and that they're going into heart failure.
They have permanent damage to their kidneys and now their
dialysis dependent for the rest of life. Um, they've had

(36:55):
blood pots in their legs, are their arms, and now
they've had amputation of those limbs. So this recovered and
this this Oh, they didn't die, their life is forever changed,
and we're seeing that demographic of people get younger and younger.
As you stated, Um with the athletes, I think it
was the University of Pennsylvania. They had their athletes who

(37:18):
tested positive for COVID nineteen thirty to thirty five percent
of them, and they get a scan of their hearts
showed inflammation of the heart. The income and freshman quarterback
for Georgia State eighteen years old, cannot play this year
because he has complications associated with his heart related to
COVID nineteen. The picture for the Red sox um he

(37:38):
also cannot play because he has heart issues now related
to COVID nineteen. And what does that mean for your
life longevity? If you start to have heart issues at
the age of twenty, what's the likelihood of you actually
living to see the age of sixty's. It's an uphill
battle and we have to get series is about this disease.

(38:02):
Earlier this week, we had Dr Walter Kimbro, who is
the president of the university, on and the press, and
he and the president of Xavia University, we're encouraging their students, faculty,
and lum not to participate in the vaccine trials. Those
two are doing it as well. I've had a lot
of black people say, oh my goodness, this is wrong.
We shouldn't be involved in doing anything with a quote

(38:24):
Trump's vaccine. Uh your, But Kimbro said, it's important that
we participate because we need to understand how the health
of African Americans works in conjunction with this vaccine, especially
those people who have might have lupus, who might have diabetes,
different medication. Uh your your take on that, right? And

(38:45):
I think completely come and say, for the record, I
understand where black people have a distrust for medicine. We
have been lied to, UM, we've been tested on we
know about Tuskegee, we know about Flint, Michigan water crisis
that's happening still today. So I completely understand, but I
have to agree with them on this one. UM. One
thing I can say, even though we've seen some shakiness

(39:07):
with the handling of the CDC, when it comes down
to being pushed and for them to stand up for truth.
Dr Fauci has gone against what Trump has said and said,
this is what science is and this is what we're
gonna do. And here of late Dr Redfield has also said,
I don't care what Trump is saying. Masks are important.
So I'm I'm hopeful that the foundation of science is

(39:31):
at least showing the American public that we're trying to
write what we've done wrong in the past. And that
being said, we if you look at China, you look
at Russia right now, they're pushing out a vaccine that
hasn't completed all phases of the trials. UM that I
don't agree with now, but we're we're using we're actually
going through the phases, which helps to ensure that we

(39:55):
do have a safe um drug to use. Now in
saying that adversity of patients and diversity of people that
are going to go through this trial, it's important because
we do need to know how does it interact with
the different genes that black people and white people. Although
we are ninety nine point nine percent the same, there
is some variability, right, and so we want to see

(40:16):
how does it affect and impact our our citizens are
black people, so that when we do this for our
kids and those who may be more at risk, that
it's as safe as possible for them. So yes, questions
ron Palons start with Erica Savage Wilson Erica of question,
Dr Everbody Hilton, Yeah, hey Dr Hilton. UM, my question
to you is when you were speaking about those athletes

(40:39):
that were um infected with this injury of the heart. Um,
it's mayo something UM I cannot pronounce all of it,
but UM, I think the percentage was like thirty to
thirty five percent of student athletes that were impacted by
this this heart trauma so to speak, heart muscle trauma.

(40:59):
Could you talk to um everyone a little bit more
about I know you talked about you know them and
you know becoming turning sixty years old with the likelihood
that would look like. But could you talk about some
of the students that are still very much so UM
their student athletes, they're very much so inspired to play football.
What are what is the some different avenues that they

(41:22):
could take. Would it be just taking a year off, UM,
Would it be just waiting until there's a COVID vaccine UM,
because usually you know, kids at this age aren't looking
long term. What kind of advice would you offer to
those athletes UM or to their parents that maybe are
being able to UM subsidize that UM what it would

(41:43):
cost for them to be able to send their kids
to college through these scholarships you and I very much
appreciate that UM that question because I remember when I
was eighteen, nineteen twenty UM, I felt invisible, invincible, like
there is nothing that I couldn't overcome. But this is
a totally different ball game when it comes down to
this disease. And so I even pushed the parents, UM,

(42:06):
and the and the sponsors and donors to these colleges
to have some type of um stance and say we're
gonna we're gonna speak up for children that when we
know when we were their age. We may not have
made the right decision because what we know is that
with these athletes that are now showing the inflammation of
the heart, the majority of them were either very very

(42:26):
mild symptoms or they were asymptomatic. The same thing as
being shown there as a study out of Germany where
they're six out of every ten patients that had mouth
symptoms and were asymptomatic when they get an m r
I of their heart, they showed inflammation of the heart.
What does that do for the longevity and the incidents

(42:48):
of heart failure that we should see? And right now,
in America pre COVID, we had the highest incidents of
heart failure in the world. So I can only imagine
what's gonna happen to us with this our scale of people.
Um So what I would tell the athletes is, you
don't realize how much power you have if you all

(43:08):
we see that, We see the Black Lives Matter protests
and and the w n b A, how they walked
out and they have the shirt song that says black
lives matter. If all the athletes of the colleges banned
together and say our lives matter too, and we don't
want to die. We've seen athletes now that are that
are dead. Okay, Um, they will not graduate. Um. We

(43:31):
we see the athletes that are now sick and they
have heart conditions. You don't have to be the next one.
And you do have a voice, and you are important
and you do matter, um more than just bringing money
into a school where the coaches make money on your back.
And yet they're okay with you breathing face to face
as you're that defensive lineman. Um with someone else who

(43:53):
may have this disease. It's not right. Um, and we
need you so yeah, use your voice. Question Reese, Colbert, Hi,
Dr Hilton segot to see you. Um. You know. One
of the things that troubles me is this whole notion that, um,
the Trump versus Biden administration, biding Harris administration really wouldn't

(44:14):
make a difference. We've seen that Trump believes that he's
done a good job with coronavirus. We see that his
silver bullet that he believes is a vaccine, which he's
lied about the timing of it. With the buying Harris administration.
They have the Coronavirus Rssion Ethic Disparities Task Force that's
part of something they'll implement. How important do you think
it is in terms of the Black community, the Latino community,

(44:37):
people of color, and having an administration that really understands
that racial and ethnic disparities have to be tackled as
part of the coronavirus response, rather than an administration that
just believes that may the best, may the strongest survive,
and eventually we'll get to hurt humanity, hurt immunity, and
it doesn't matter how many people die in the process,

(44:59):
PARTICU really if they're black and Latino, right, ain't no reason.
I'm a huge fan of yours, and I know you've
always been on top of it and promoting what Harris's
plan is in particular, um as she relates to health disparities,
particularly for black women. There's nothing that comes out of
Trump's administration that speaks to all the factors that play
into why black people and brown people are more likely

(45:23):
to be infected in the first place and die in
the first place. And to to just drive this home
at this point in time, where Donald Trump is saying
we're going to rely on her mentality and what he
meant by that was her immunity, UM to basically allow
a lot a large group of people to get infected
so that it can protect certain pockets of us. In

(45:45):
order to do that, sixty of our nation would have
to be infected. And right now we have a a
mortality rate of around two point nine six percent, meaning
that if sixty of our population were to get infested,
we would have to be willing for at least to

(46:06):
to to four million people dying. That's what he's willing
to sacrifice. And black and brown people, if that many
people are dying right now, we are seeing that you
are dying at two to three times your population rate.
So we will be the ones that's that's carrying the
heavy burden of sacrifice in our lives to keep this

(46:29):
administration in play. And my question is what are we
gaining from that. There's nothing that's worth your life. If
right now, I'll give you a number. If right now
black people died at the same rate that white people
died from from COVID nineteen, there will be nineteen thousand,
five hundred black people still alowed today, nineteen thousand, five hundred.

(46:51):
And he is okay, he is okay with that. And
that's our mothers, that's our fathers, that's our children these
This should not be happening, and yet he's playing golf
while we're not even allowed to bury our family members.
Its tragic question. Notr grand car for dr Abdy Hilton.

(47:11):
Thank you, Roland. I'm still shake in my head thinking
about that, Doctor Dell, and thank you for your work.
And as a member of our community. You know, back
in the spring, had a frank conversation with the president
Howard the medical doctor Wayne Frederick. He gave to me
straight and it's pretty much played out the way he
thought it would play out in terms of school shut down.
Walter Kimbro, President Diller is my friend. I understand. Brother

(47:33):
says he's gonna volunteer for the vaccine, so I understand
he's trying to game this out. He's not a medical doctor,
but he's got the courage to say, look, I'll put
it in my arm because we gotta save some lives
and I'll be willing to go. Let me ask you,
as a member of our community, Um, if you had to,
you had to make up prediction. Are we going to

(47:53):
be back physically in the classroom in January one? Or
do you see this thing at least in terms of education,
kill and or university keeping us indoors through the spring semester. Man,
y'all ain't going back till fall. And they go in
where she's the medical professional. That all why she about

(48:16):
to agree with me? Go ahead even right, because again,
really you know my stance has not changed. No, these
schools are gonna have to shut down. I'll give you
an example. Just this Tuesday, and I'm from South Carolina
if you can't understand my ascent, but just this Tuesday,
there was an additional four hundred and fourteen cases from

(48:37):
schools alone for COVID nineteen up that two hundred UM
and two hundred forty odd were students and a hundred
forty were teachers. We had two weeks ago, like twenty
eight year old teacher die from COVID nineteen UM. It's
one of these things. We just have to remember our children.

(48:59):
They are beautiful creatures. They don't wash your hands, they
sneeze and think it's fun. Um, they're not going to
keep on masks, and they share everything, including COVID nineteen
And there was this this idea that, oh, well, children
can't transfer that to other um, to other members. But
we just saw I think it was an Oregon. Um.
They showed how there was this outbreak related to one

(49:23):
school where kids were getting infected and taking it back
home to their parents, and one parent has now been
hospitalized related to it. We aren't ready. We aren't ready.
We don't have the same things that we were talking
about back in in March and April that we need
to have in place. As far as the testing, the tracing,
and the treatment, we don't have any of those three

(49:45):
t s, not one. Um. As far as the testing,
even the amount of testing we're doing right now is
about three thirty million I think a month. We need
upwards of three hundred million a month in order to
keep this thing contained. Um yeah. And we're seeing now
as far as our kids with schools, two weeks ago

(50:06):
we had five hundred thousand, half a million children positive
for COVID nineteen. I can only imagine what that's gonna
be here within the next couple of weeks with all
the schools opening. Um yeah. So it's not I understand
schools are important outside of of just the learning aspect,

(50:27):
which is huge. My sister is a principle of an
elementary school, so we talked about this often. I know
the socialization is important, and the mental health of our
children is important. I know that some kids have unfortunately
food insecurity, where the only food they get is at school.
But we shouldn't risk their lives because we haven't been
willing as adults to fix those policies. And we still

(50:51):
can fix them. Now we have FEMA. We have emergency
money that can be used to figure out a better
way because now our children are becoming more and more infected.
Um there's been an increase in hospitalizations over this summer
as far as children, upwards of three um of kids

(51:12):
having to go into the hospital. And guess who's going
into the hospital. You're five times more likely to be
hospitalized if you're a Black child, and you're eight times
more likely to be hospitalized if you're a Hispanic child.
In comparison, if you're white with COVID nineteen. We cannot
sacrifice them. I'm not willing to do that, all right,
Dr Ebony Hilton, We sortaly appreciate it. Thanks a bunch

(51:35):
for your knowledge. And uh, you know you've been a
little assaulted with some people on on Twitter. Uh you've
been this this whole week. I'm like, Lord, she need
a nap. You've just been snapping on foulk me pray
for me. Yeah, I think between you and recent I
don't know who was stopping more this week. Look, I

(51:55):
didn't mess what anybody. They kept coming on my page,
messing with needs. All right, Well, appreciate it, thanks a
lot as well. Alright, folks. An officer with the Salt
Lake Police Department was charged with aggravated assault for ordering
his dog to attack a black man who had his
hands up. The Salt Lake County District Attorney's office filed

(52:17):
the charge against officer Nicholas Pierce following a review of
the April incident that was first brought to light after
the Salt Lake Tribune published body camera footage of the
attack on thirty six year old Jeffrey Ryan's watch why
are you fighting me? Right now? Right now? Boy boy

(52:56):
boy boy football, good boy boy, good ship boy. Body

(53:23):
hand footage shows that even though Ryan's was kneeling on
the ground with his hands in the air, the can
Now officer still ordered his dog to attack. In California, folks, uh,
the other crazy story here, the California Peace Officers Association,
in a too many political video clearly showed an image
of a cross hair symbol over the face of Black

(53:43):
State assembly Member Reggie Jones Sawyer. The video was widely
circulated on Facebook before it was deleted. The organization is
supporting a candidate who was running against Jones saw Your
in the November general election. Here's some of that video.
C prepared to lead and speak the loud us. We're
going to demand that the increased violence and assaults on

(54:06):
peace officers are addressed and the perpetrators are held accountable
to the highest degree. And these are other people. Erica
who dogd Trump says, it's all nine of the cops
are great. I love them. They're wonderful. Yeah, because they've
been infiltrated um and by right domestic terrorists. You know

(54:27):
in the video that we saw of the gentleman in
Salt Lake City, that really takes back for me kind
of thinking about Eyes on the Prize, watching that in
middle school and in high school, and in seeing dogs
that were sicked on children, black children, black women and
black men um in Birmingham in the nineteen sixties. And

(54:49):
here we are again and worried. But for body cam,
we would only have this man who went through a
traumatizing event against that of enforcement officer, which has really
been given to the American public that these are individuals
that we should trust even though they continue to prove

(55:10):
with the state sanctioned murders that they continue to commit
year after year, that there really is no trust within
that organization. So this is why to fund the police
is really something that we should all become familiar with,
understanding that it is about moving resources into more community efforts.

(55:30):
Because you know, they have the backing of the son
of a klansman, the person that is supposed to be
the leader of what was a at some point a
free world, and then the backing of the U. S.
Attorney General who you played the clip earlier, who could
really care less about black lives and talks about black
people very openly and publicly as these people. So what

(55:54):
we're seeing on the video that you just show out
of California with these police organizations that tenue to fan
the flames, who continue to um disrupt because they really
don't have anybody that calls them out, so to speak,
that they can behave in this ways. This is more
evidence really for people to get out and turn out
to vote, because also what it shows is that these

(56:18):
organizations will not do well until there is a massive
public outcry in national leadership that will help to rain
them in greg When you have a when you have
this police, this Correctional Association putting the cross hairs on
a state assemblyman again, They're making it perfectly clear where
they staying. And there's a reason why they love Donald Trump.

(56:40):
They want to be thugs. They want to be supported
by thugs, and they want to beat the hell out
of people with impunity. And a lot of people have
not pay attention to this. In that town hall when
Donald Trump talked about Portland, Oh yeah, I got people.
This can be taken care of in thirty seconds. And
you know what he wants is And I have sat
at the table with Donald Trump and listen to him

(57:00):
talk about cops like that. Donald Trump wants to unleash
And that's why I keep to all, you gotta be
a stupid ass fool would be voting for Donald Trump
if y'all think he's been a thug the first four years.
What this man wants to unleash on Black America, y'all
ain't seen nothing yet. If he wins in November, No,

(57:24):
you're right, Roland, there's going to be a confrontation as
Donald Trump apparently, if we can trust our eyes as
we watch him, you know you're gonna talk about his
conscious things, talking to birth, birthday constitution later. But if
we can trust our eyes as he as he seemingly
writes from the inside, as he models and and disassembles,

(57:46):
as he kind of turns into jelly in front of us,
um his stormtroopers and they're not really his stormtroopers. This
is how these people have always felt. As you said,
unleashed is the unleashed is the perfect word Rolland because
when we think of leashes, we think of dogs. And
so when you see this officer who joined the canine
unit apparently around twleven, who's been featured in articles out

(58:09):
there in Utah for being so proud of being in
the canaine unit, we hear him say, good boy, good boys.
He's biting the brothers. Brother what the funk? Whatever? You know,
I'm reminded of an elder, an elder of mine who's
now an ancestor normal X in Columbus, Ohio. He used
to do a presentation we haven't come up to the
Black Culture Center at Ohio State and he would do
a presentation called the African Holocaust, and he would show

(58:31):
pictures of dogs fighting civil rights protesters as Eric as
you just said, assist those eyes and the prize steals,
and he would pause it and he would say to
the students, maybe several hundred of us there, and he said,
I'm gonn tell y'all something right now. Always always kill
that dog. And then we would all cheer, and I

(58:52):
reminded of that at a moment like this, always killed
that dog. And Malcolm X, you know, you said, I'm sorry, dog,
but you might have to be lateral damnage. See. And
then when you look at those cops with the bulls.
I on a brother who has an uncle who was
one of the Little Rock nine. That brother in the
State Assembly, you know, Malcolm Max said he got two
legged dogs and four legged dogs. And here's what Donald
Trump is going to find out as he wastes away

(59:14):
in his ill fitting suits, and as the clear dissolution
of his physical form fills up those suits to overflow,
as we see, he's gonna find out he doesn't have
enough thugs. He's no thug, He's a studio gangster. And
the ones that think that how many other dogs they
have are gonna come up against some people, particularly some
of these young people might be some of them young

(59:35):
people whose frontal lobe hasn't closed enough to realize they
shouldn't be playing football. They're gonna bite the right one,
and the words of normal X are going to be
made flesh, and some dogs gonna die in this country.
Rec um As, I was hard to follow up from
Dr car but I will say, I mean, this is

(59:56):
the system um operating as designed. You know, Trump is
a person who and one of his presidential so called
presidential rallies UH actually encourage the police to rough up
people that they were protests, that they were arresting. So
this is the kind of in violence that the that
Donald Trump and the Republicans actually encourage from these police

(01:00:18):
officers also known as slave patrols, because their purpose is
to inflict violence and terrorists terrorism on black and brown community.
So this is exactly what's to be expected. I mean,
to call yourself law and order like Donald Trump likes
to call himself or to be a correctional officer, and
then put a cross hair over a black elected official
that what how what about of law and order is that?

(01:00:40):
But it's not about law and order. It's about the
order of white supremacy and keeping black people with their
boots on our next. And so for whatever purity test
people have in terms of you know, um criminal justice reform,
let me remind people that Donald Trump's first active with
with Jeff questions was to roll back Obama error protect

(01:01:03):
our reforms. When it comes to drug charges, Jeff Session said,
charge people as harshly as possible and seek the longest
sentences as possible. This year, William Barr launched Operation Legend,
which conveniently targeted primarily black and brown's communities with these
multi agency UM organizations where they swooped into the community

(01:01:26):
and arrested thousands of people. So there is a war
on our community is not just happening at the local
police level, but then the help and assistance of the
federal government and in bars DLJ Alright, folks, gonna go
to a break, we come back. Strange in Tennessee, a
longtime black Democrat out of Memphis, excuse me, out of Nashville.

(01:01:49):
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Executive Committee because he's pro life. We'll talk to him next.
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being a supporter of us right here at Roland Martin unfiltered,
all right, folks. Representative John de Berry Jr. Had always

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represented his Memphis State House district in Tennessee as a Democrat. Um,
here's we don't have them, not yet, as folks, we
thought we had him as a guest. Uh so let
me uh so, let me just do this here. I'm
gonna push that story uh and uh and go to
uh this next story and that is um, you know what,
We'll do this in him. Le'm just doing right. I'll

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go ahead and do it right now. All right, So
let y'all let me know when he's on the phone.
I'm talking with Hi about the powel Again. He's representing
this district, y'all for twenty eight years. This year, though,
he's gonna be running as an independent because the Democratic
Party Executive Committee decided to remove him because of his
pro life beliefs. According to the executive committee, one of
the members was quoted as saying that, well, because he's

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an incumbent, those who ran against him didn't have the
money necessary to run against him, and they did not
believe that the people in his district fully understood that
he was pro life. Um, Greg, you're from Tennessee. This
is um. I don't give a damn what your position is,
whether your pro life appro choice. For for an executive

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committee to remove a duly elected official because he is
pro life, that means you're depriving the people who have
voted for him representation of representing them. Yeah, you know,
rolland we know what this is, brother, we know what

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this is. I mean, let's be clear, here's a black man.
These church Christ's minist I got live of my family church.
I love them. Um, of course in my people, until
people understand that we have a full range of opinions.
You know, there are a lot of people in in

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black communities who are um against a woman's right to
choose to terminate a pregnancy. I won't use the language
pro life or pro choice because those aren't correlate correlative. Um.
You know, if du Barry wants to take that position,
that's his position, and I'm sure and assume it's a
position of conviction. You know. De Berry is a famous

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name in Tennessee politics. Lois de Berry was in the
Tennessee legislature when I was an undergrad out of memory.
So John deberrys you know his famous name. You know,
these Democrats need to understand that in order to uh
have our people still vote, Democrats got to be able

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to accommodate that type of opinion. Now, we don't all
have to agree with it. I myself, I believe it's
not about my personal beliefs about whether woman should be
able to term the terminate pregnancy or that. My belief
is the state is not the same as our personal beliefs.
If I don't have the right to tell another human

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being what to do in a situation like that. But
if de Berry wants to mix his faith in his politics,
that's who he is. And the Democratic Party in Tennessee
is underwater anyway. Some of the hell they think they're
doing by doing that to him, this is um, this
is uh. Look, the reality is this here recy There
are pro life Democrats, there are pro choice Democrats. I

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do not believe at the issue of choice or life
should be a determined as to whether or not you
run as a Democrat. And to remove this man from
the position that just I don't care, that is idiotic
to me that that's the decision that would be made. Yeah,

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I mean, I obviously don't agree with his political ideology
in this case. However, the bottom line is that he
was elected. Um, if people did not primary him, it's
if they chose not to run against him because he
was well funded or he was an incumbent, that's on them.
I think each politician, it's incumbent upon them to run
on their platform and get the votes that they need

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to get elected. And so I think this is kind
of usurping the will of the people and trying to,
you know, impose an ideological pure any tests on somebody
that is against what people have already voted for. So
I don't agree with that. I do believe that the
Democrat the Democratic Party is a big tent party, even
if I don't agree with everything that somebody says, and

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I'm to me, I think choice anti choice. However, whichever
language you want to use, goes beyond just a difference
of an opinion, because ultimately, what you do with your ideology,
if that include if that actually translates to trying to
block contraception or block funding for planned parenthood, are a
number of things that go under the so called pro
life or or anti choice banner comes into play. But

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the bottom line is if you won your election, if
your constituents voted for you, then they have a right
to that representation. Representative the Barry on the phone. Can
you hear me, sir, guys pull up the audio please? Yes,
I represent the bearer. One second? Hold on one second,

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guys pulled his audio up. Representative varry. Um, we're trying
to trying to sit here, and so can you hear me?
All right? So guys, are you hearing in the control room?
All right? Just hold on one second? Hold on one second.

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I am going to let's see if Okay, so here,
what you do. We're gonna call you back on another
line in just one set. We're gonna call you right
now to get your audio. Okay, uh, so we're gonna
talk to you just a second. I want to get
him on because I think, I think you know this.
This is this is the kind of stuff that you know.

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You've got Republicans whose whole position is they don't like
pro choice Republicans. That that that that's their take. They
don't like prochos republicans. Um. But it makes no sense
because which all right now, we have them, he represented Barry.
Can you hear me? All right? So we got you

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all right? So, um, you've so you've been pro life
all of these years, and so all of a sudden
the decision was made to remove you. How do they
right at the conclusion that they have the power to
remove you from the ballot because of because you're pro life? Well, Uh,

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members of my opponent's executive team are members of the
executive board, are made the complaint to the executive board.
So folks who worked for my opponent did the complaint
and push the complaint through. And uh, so they they
have the right, uh, using a provision in the law

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which has never been used in this fashion before, to
disassociate themselves with me. And they removed me from the
ballot after I had qualified by having members of my
community signed my petition, members of my constituents. Uh, they
disqualified me after the filing filing deadline, and so I

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could not run as a Democrat or a Republican. I
read this one story where one of the Executive commanded
members said that that that your that your constituents were
unsure or they did not really know about your position. Really,
they have run. They have run against me three consecutive elections,

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putting everything out there. Three Democratic opponents have run against
me talking about my uh, my disagreement with them with
the Democratic Party on abortion and on several other issues.
So there is no way that my district could be
misinformed or uninformed about where I stood. And not only this,

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they had the audacity to say that the people in
my district basically didn't have sense enough to elect their representatives.
They had to do it for them because they weren't
informed enough, uh to make that decision. So we talk
about a bunch of folks who probably have never set
foot in District ninety making a decision for District ninety. You. Um,

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you have led uh the Coleman Avenue Church of Christ
in Memphis for the last twenty years. Um, and uh,
this is the position that you've taken down. Is this
the only issue that that they have with you? I mean,
do they appreciate you voting for them on other issues
and just on this one? You just happen to be
pro life? Well, I have. I have stood with them

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on many issues, uh that are procedural and and some
some issues that have to do with policies so that's
that has never been the problem of me just being
um a radical against against the against the Democratic Party.
This was the fact that they have run three consecutive

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elections against me. They have run three strong opponents, have
financed them extremely well, and I still won by anywhere
between sixty and the only thing they had left was
to remove me from the ballot. So they had an
individual here again that was a member of the staff

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of my opponent, filed the file a complaint and they
voted on a complaint with forty eight hours notice in
a zoom meeting in the middle of a pandemic. They
removed a thirteen term incumbent who has been re elected
by his district on a zoom meeting. I'm reading this

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story here, and it said that the Executive Committee had
a responsibility quote to confirm the the legitimacy of an
individual representing themselves to be a Democrat. There. This is
quoting Kindred Lee, a thirty two year old Blackmocratic activists
and committee member from Memphis. She said, quote that was

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there was never a question of morals or character. This
is very much straight down the line as to your
responsibilities as a democratic elected official. So are they saying
that in order for you to be a Democrat, you
absolutely must be pro choice. Yeah, they absolutely say that

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I must say pro choice. And according to them, uh,
democratic policy. Somewhere along they said, in I quote the
Democratic Party has evolved, and I'm I'm hearing some other voices.
I don't know if you can hear them. Democratic Party
had has evolved and that I didn't evolve with it.

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And because of this, because this is their policy, this
is their saying, I'm either pro choice or I am
not af mcrat. And it was argued during the meeting
that they were shrinking the tent, the so called all
Inclusive Party was excluding the one conservative Democrat in the

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interire state who is elected to the House of Representatives.
But you're you're saying that go ahead, go ahead, go ahead,
and go ahead, go ahead. So they're they're saying that
that wasn't room in the entire legislature for one conservative Democrat.
But here's a deal. Though I wouldn't even use the

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phrase conservative democrat. There are a lot of African Americans
who are very liberal who simply because of their moral
convictions and their religion or pro life. Uh, they don't
call themselves conservative now, according to the according to the
according to the Tennessee, and other members said that you

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took money from a Republican aligned political action committee, that
you voted for school voucher is, and that you voted
for a Republican as House speaker. In Well, here's here's
the thing. First of all, everybody up their votes with Republicans.
There are only twenty five Democrats out of ninety nine

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in the House. It takes it takes twenty seven Republicans
and every Democrat for Democrat to pazz a bill on
the floor of the House. So everybody up their votes
with Republicans. As far as the speaker was concerned, they
all caucus and called me. One of the one of
the chairs of the Democratic uh caucus called me. A

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delegation called me and said, we are all gonna stand
together behind the speaker. We're going to all vote. We're
gonna start this year off good and in harmony. And
they called me and said we're gonna vote for the speaker.
I said, are you sure about this? They said, yes,
We're all gonna vote for the speaker. So I called
the speaker and asked him, and the Speaker said Oh yes, that,

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Uh it was. We've already worked out our differences and
we're gonna start the year off. We're gonna bring in
all the former speakers. The ceremony was set. On the
way into the door to vote, they said, we changed
our mind. I said, you did what we changed our mind.
We're gonna run somebody now, knowing you only have twenty five,

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you can't There is no way that you can possibly
do this unless twenty seven or eight or twenty nine
Republicans vote for a Democrat for speaker. So why would
you do this and why would you expect me to
spend political capital in order to just make a show
that they wanted to make on that day? And everybody

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up there, uh, risk gets money from Republicans and Democrats
and whoever makes a donor, whoever gives them money. So
all of that's just a bunch of who we that
they threw in there. And the voucher it's in the
voucher issue. The look, there are there are black people,
there are Democrats from support school choice. I had that.

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I was. I was fighting for school choice before it
was cool, before the Republicans took over the legislature. I
put in school choice bills. I have put in school
choice bills for almost twenty years, so everybody knew where
I was. On vouchers, on educational scholarships, and bus loads

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of black folks, bus loads of African Americans come to
Nashville every year begging for school choice, and they've just
been ignored. All right, Representative John de Barry Jr. So
you're running as an independent in November? Correct, Yes, that

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is correct. I'm running as an independent. That's all I
had left. It was done in such a way that,
as I said earlier, that the petition that the plant
was found after the filing deadline. So when it was found,
I could not run as a Democrat or as a Republican.
The only thing, the only option I had when they

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finished during their vote of taking me off the ballot
was to run us a writ in. That's a shot
in the dark. We all know this. But my colleagues,
both Democrat and Republican, voted for a bill and a
change in the law that if an incumbent has been
removed from the ballot after they have qualified, they can

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run us an independent. All right, Representative, very we appreciate it,
Thank you so very much. I thank you for having
me on today. All right, folks, we did reach out
to uh try to track down members of the Executive Committee.
We're gonna try to get one of them on tomorrow
because Erica, I really would like to hear an explanation,
because I do believe it's fundamentally unfair. I don't care.

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Here's a deal if you want if you want to
be pro choice and run as a republic alkin, I
got no issue. If you want to be pro life,
I got no issue. If you want to be pro
choice or pro life as a Democrat, I got no issue.
The voters are the ones who should decide who represents them. Yeah,
And I think one of the most surprising things to

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hear UM representative talk about was that when he said
that they're twenty five members of various um of of
their assembly, twenty five members of the Democratic Party UM
in that um that in that capital as opposed to
ninety nine Republicans. So they're definitely outdone. So thinking about

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then some of the bills that he voted on that
definitely they had to cross the oulet because they really
didn't have a choice. They're a small percentage of that
entire capital. Body, and so to understand kind of where
we are right now, and then that Democrats, people would
that carry Democrat would actually exercise this type for coup,

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so to speak. UM, it's really surprising, especially given that
this story was picked up on the Federalist and so
this is the story now that has been running for
UM a few weeks on the Federalist page. This does
not vote well, even though this is very much so
relegated to that particular area, This does not vote well
for the entire Democrat party. I mean, because when you

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think about the way that this can really be teased out,
to say in fact that Democrats are not the big
tenth party that they were once who were considered, and
that they're actually moving out people who don't really fit
the bill, and then that it be a black lawmaker
is very troubling. So I'm really interested in finding out. UM.
Although he said that he's going to be running as

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an independent, is there any litigation that will be involved? Um?
Interested because they did, in fact have another person that
passed away in October last year, a state representative who
they and UM that they in fact said that calking
with Republicans, that he said things that were not flattering
about the Democratic Party on a hot mic um Um

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a black gentleman that passed away in October of last year.
So I'm just wondering if it was just something that
they experienced through him that they said that they were
just really going to cut off at the knees anyone
that did not um do as they all wanted them
to do. Well. I can't wait to again talk to
a member of the Executive Committee. I would love to
get their perspective on this decision. Light folks. UH, now

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it's time for a new segment. We're gonna do a
weekly education segment called Education Matters is sponsored by UH
my school Choice is a black choice initiative. UH. And
what this is all about is covering all different areas
of education and UH. This week we're looking at obviously
schools reopening now. As we discussed, black and minority students

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are dying from coronavirus more than any other race. Donald
Trump and US Secretary of Education Bessie Divorce are determined
to reopen the nation schools for for full time in
person learning. And while parents would like to see their
children back in school, there are concerns when he goes
down and talk about this is Rand Miller directed the
twenty first Century Community Learning Center, and Katura Butler read,

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president of Albany State University. How y'all doing Hello, I'm
doing really good, laud There are parents who are cousin
left and right. Uh, they are not happy with where
they are. Many there are the school districts. Frankly, they
were unprepared to go full virtual learning. You also are
seeing in some cities where more than one third of

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the students are not even logging on. How in the
world or can we really move forward in this international
pandemic dealing with COVID nineteen and we are seeing that
problem that number of kids thirty to some places even
higher not even logging on. I was reading one story

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where there was this was one teacher I was trying
to communicate with one of her students and to get
her uh, and was trying to holding up notes because
the young girl did not know how to un mute
her computer. And she was asking her are there any
adults around? And the young girl is shaking her head. Uh.
We we get a problem right now when it comes

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to virtual learning in America. Yeah. Well, I think the
problem is is that We had an opportunity to fix
this at the very beginning of this whole situation in March,
and school districts were more concerned with opening up, whether
it was pressure due to President of the United States,
but they had an opportunity to really fix this, and

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unfortunately they just came back to school saying hey, we're open,
We're ready, and they weren't ready. Not to mention, there's
so much pressure put on students, particularly students of color.
You're asking students who you know, have their videos on,
We're going to give you a suspension. If you're not
with your video on, You're you're asking to come into

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students homes without they're sort of their permission, the permission
of their parents. So there's a lot of different challenges
going on. And one of the things that I'm not
seeing is the compassion and certainly not the preparedness upon
school districts, but culture of the reality is that we
had a Montgomery, Alabama school board member on a few
months ago who said, look, we just don't have the

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money for the laptops for all the students. Uh. And
you're right, there are people who thought the schools were
going to reopen. They thought listening to the White House
that hey, by June, by July, we would be over
the hunt when it comes to coronavirus. That's not the
case as well, And so now we're faced with the
situation where you have no choice. I mean, look, my

(01:25:39):
niece is a sophomore at Howard University. Uh, she in Houston,
So she's living with us. Because the thought was, uh,
they would be going classes online and then having some classes,
having having one or two classes. Uh in person, Hey,
she got here. They said no, no classes on campus
at all. That's on the college. Now we start talking

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about high school, middle school, elementary school, you're really trying
to get It's just it's it's complete upheaval, and frankly,
it's showing the difference between the halves and the have
nots when it comes to resources. Yeah there, I mean
there there are a number of problems with this whole thing.

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I mean, we know that the students don't have the resources.
We saw what happened in Philadelphia, where you know, there
were a number of students who couldn't get on and
a number of students who weren't provided what it was
that they needed. And a lot of this is an
issue of of you know, the have versus the have nots,
like you said, and we need folks to step up

(01:26:45):
and not just uh school districts, but the community, the
stakeholders to stuff up and really say we're going to
support students. But the reality is is that what I'm
finding is that black parents, in particular saying, listen, we
understand that there may be some issues going on, and
there are some problems, but this isn't a matter of
past or failed. This is a matter of life or death.
And because schools and because our government failed in the

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matter of preparing for this virus, parents are saying, we
want to make sure that our children are safe. And
we know, as you said, the statistics showing that black
people are predisposed to this. We also know that with
respect to children, children tend to spread this disease or
their their disease spreaders more than anyone else. And with

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respect to children, in comparison to kids in other countries
in this country, children tend to have more underlying issues.
A report came out from the CDC The s of
the children who are dying are children of color, Black,
Latin X and Indigenous, and the conditioned underlying condition that
they had more than likely was asthma. And black children

(01:27:50):
have asthma twice as much as white students, So we
know that there are issues and parents are really concerned,
and so unfortunately folks aren't necessarily stepping up the way
that they should, and black students are in this catch
twenty two where you're damned if you do, damned if
you don't. Yes, um, I would like to say that.
I think, like he said, there were pre existing conditions already,

(01:28:13):
so they were already troubles with homework, gaps, equital education,
and so it's like students are already playing catch up.
So that's one problem that we should have dealt with
before coronavirus. But now that we do have coronavirus, it's
like we have to depend on laptops internet access, and
the reality is a lot of students don't have that,

(01:28:35):
and if we're not able to go back to campus,
then what do we do when we're at home Because
some parents, you know, they might have to use the laptops.
So it's like, okay, well she has to pay the bills.
I think that might trump me going to class at
that moment. But that's also unacceptable for some professors because
they're like, no, you need to make it to class.
But if we don't have the resources and if the

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school can't provide the resources, and that's a bigger problem
them because it's like, yeah, we have cares Act. We
had that what last semester and some students might have
gotten it for the summer. But it's like, okay, well
we get that again. Well other additional relief is there
for us, and so it's like we have to start
thinking about legislation to make sure that if there is

(01:29:18):
an outbreak, another outbreak to occur, or what do we
do moving forward? Then it's something has to change because
we don't have the resources all the time. I want
to bring in our panel here, Greg car you professor
there at Howard University. I mean this is uh we
said this early on. This is exposing the reality of

(01:29:39):
education in this country. Uh. The difference between places where
you have parents in suburban districts who largely white, who
can afford to have one parents stay at home and
really be the teacher, if you will. It's exposing the
folks who don't have the resources, who can't afford internet,
who can't afford uh, the additional resources. And we're supposed

(01:30:03):
to believe that children can get a a a similar
or an equal education in this situation. No, of course not.
And I'm so glad you have a president Theater Albany
because I you know, I teach. I'm one of those

(01:30:23):
you know folks departments here. I don't take a course release,
so I've got a number of students and i am
teaching synchronously, meaning um, I'm not recording lectures. I meet
my classes and record them and then post them for
people to the students who can't make it through the
time zones. Two things coming to the mind. Many of
our students, and you know KG welve and university don't

(01:30:45):
have the resources at home. And you know, University is
trying to say, well, you know, make them unuse their screens.
Some people don't want you to see the circumstances they're under,
and some people struggling they have to call in. That's
on that side. But you know, and I'd be interested
in hear what you have to say, Madam President about
this specifically, you know our h B c U S.
I mean on the other side is I'm exhausted and

(01:31:06):
I'm a teacher, you know what I'm saying. So, I mean,
this thing is exhausted for me. But but you know,
our HBCUs, with the exception of Chiney and Lincoln and
Wilberforce and maybe you know Lincoln in in in in Missouri,
a couple others are in the South, and many of
our schools are trapped by these uh road, white national
state legislatures and governors and are forced into a Hobson's choice.

(01:31:31):
How are y'all managing down there? When in Georgia, South Carolina,
I've got forens at clapland sc state of the place.
They're trying to force people to go back to school
in situations that are endangering the health of the faculty
and administration and endangering the students. I mean, how are
you managing that there? Because as as Eric as we
talked about many times. You know Eric's hometown Abany, You

(01:31:53):
know that COVID thing is real and it's hitting Albany
like hell. How are y'all managing so well? First, I
just want to start by saying shot out to all
the h b c U s, But um, how are
we managing? I would love to know myself. It's really
hard because a lot of students. Thank god, my classes
are all online, but there are some classes that are hybrid.

(01:32:17):
So I think that's not only unsafe for students but
also professors because it's like Albany, it was a hotspot,
and though the cases have gone down, it's like just
in general, Albany is a college town and it's pretty small.
So the research that we have, the health resources that
we have are already somewhat limited. So there isn't like

(01:32:39):
necessarily a plan in place to help us with that.
But it's quite hard because when you're a college student,
of course you want the college experience, and we can't
have that. You know, we can't have the football games
like we usually have, or the whatever other you know,
dj come out or have any out of events on campus. Um.

(01:33:02):
So it's like we had to adjust a lot. We
had to do so many different guidelines to do anything,
and it's so hard, especially not being on campus because
of course you miss everything. But I mean it's it's
quite hard. Um because even in Albany sometimes the weather

(01:33:22):
is really bad. So right now, there was like a
hurricane watch a few days ago, and so okay, if
the power is out, then how is everyone's gonna go
to class. That's a whole another thing. So it's very
hard for us to manage. That's all I can say. UM,
this is something here again where you know we're gonna ran.

(01:33:43):
We're soon going to be done with the first month
of school. To really have an assessment, UM, what should
be districts be, what should they be looking for? What
should parents be saying after this first month to try
to correct or fix deficiency deficiency there's seeing right now.
So parents, the first thing that they can do is

(01:34:03):
they can be really monitoring what's happening with their students. UM,
even if you're not home every day, even if you
don't have the opportunity to do that, check in with
your kids, Check in to see what they have going on.
Take notes, reach out to the teachers, stay on top
of them. Stay on top of them because they will
respond if you do. Also, attend those board meetings, UM,

(01:34:23):
even if they're on zoom, even if maybe they're in person,
maybe if there's some social distancing, go to those meetings.
Let your voices be heard, let them understand what challenges
you're dealing with. And if you see that your students
are being tested and things of that nature, these assessments
and stuff like that, particularly after the first month. No,
we we we shouldn't be seeing that at all, um.

(01:34:45):
And we know that those assessments can harm black and
brown students also. And what schools districts need to do
is they need to just get back on the ball. Uh.
If if the districts have the opportunity to work with
hybrid or remote learning, they need to stick with the
remote learning and do their best to make sure that
it's improved, not just sticking with what they did in March,

(01:35:06):
or making sure that they take all the necessary precautions
to provide students exactly what they need. Hopefully they do
that because regardless, parents are staying home with their children
or he mean, parents are wanting their children to stay home,
particularly black parents, even with all of the various challenges
and disparities, because again it's a matter of life or death.

(01:35:26):
All right, then we'll look, we're gonna keep doing this
again every week. We're gonna have our Education Matter segment.
We certainly think both of you for being with us.
Contura Butler read all but the state as well as
rand Miller, thank you so very much for joining us.
Thank you all right, let's go to let's go to
our next education story, y'all. Today, UH, the idiot had
a had a conference at the White House today all

(01:35:47):
white historians, where he announced he's going to be signing
an executive order creating uh, a National Patriotic Education Commission.
He took the time to slam the sixteen nineteen project.
Let's just say he would just simply talk into more
white people like those of Howard Zinn that try to

(01:36:07):
make students ashamed of their own history. The left has warped, distorted,
and defiled the American story with deceptions, falsehoods, and lies.
There is no better example than the New York Times

(01:36:27):
totally discredited nineteen project. This project rewrites American history to
teach our children that we were founded on the principle
of oppression, not freedom. Nothing could be further from the truth.
America's founding set in motion the unstoppable chain of events

(01:36:50):
that abolished slavery, secured civil rights, defeated communism and fascism,
and built the most fair, well and prosperous nation in
human history. I just love I just love recy. How

(01:37:17):
how do you white folks are just just just crazy
about the sixty nineteen project, as if they just made
it up, as if none of that stuff happened. I mean,
we had a whole last word to end slavery. So
what is he talking about, like, oh, our founding led
to slavery being abolished. No, it actually did not. There

(01:37:38):
was a war. I don't know. They're fighting over these
Confederate statutes, so they seem to have known that there
was war. It's it's absolutely ridiculous. This is just this
is this is what it looks like when you have
a fascist government, when you have a government that's all
about propaganda, whether it's vaccine propaganda, whether it is propaganda
about history, whether it's propaganda about science, climate change, things

(01:38:01):
of that nature. What Donald Trump and the Republican Party
want to create is an alternate universe that extends beyond
Fox News and actually extends into the classrooms, and it
extends into how we are actually teaching people about our
American history, which, by the way, is already inadequate. By
the way, there's already not enough information about the true

(01:38:25):
nature of the way that this country was founded and
the fact that we are still fighting for basic civil
rights to this day. And so this is just another
one of his poise to try to create an alternate reality. Unfortunately,
Donald Trump and Betsy Divas are over the government and
they have a large degree of power to actually see

(01:38:46):
that these kinds of um indoctrination, alternative histories actually make
it into the classrooms. So that's very scary. Eric. This
is all about appealing to whiteness, Donald Trump, Bill Barr,
their whole deal where they want to appeal to white
voters and attacking sixteen nineteen projects. Oh it's been uh,

(01:39:09):
it's distorted, it's been discredited. Actually know it hasn't And
and guess what they can try to run away from
it all they want to, they can call try to
call this the seventeen seventies, seventies, seventeen seventy commission. Let
me listen to y'all. Sixteen nineteen happened, So the sixteen
twenty six, one, twenty three, twenty four, all the way up.

(01:39:34):
Eighteen sixty three happened, eighteen sixty five happened, The Great
Compromise of eighteen seventy seven happened. Jim Crow happened. Black
people having their land stolen happened, The pan in system
that happened pig laws that happened, Lynching that happened, Racism,
Doing World War One that happened, racism, Doing World War

(01:39:57):
Two that happened, racism, Doing Korea that happened, racism, doing
Vietnam War that happened. I mean, we could just go
on and on. I mean, here's my whole deal. If
these white folks really want to have a debate, y'all,
here's a deal. We'd both been prepared to have it.
You know why because we now own ship, we now

(01:40:19):
own media, and and and here he had all these historians,
not a single black historian at his so called little
commission today, little white House on History Erica. Yeah, why
would they be. I mean, this is all about white supremacy.
This is about a person whose father was arrested at

(01:40:39):
a clan rally really living out his best years. And
so if everyone is to buy into white mythology, which
says that this noble um Italian came across the shores
and discovered America, and then fast forward the sixteen nineteen,
there were people that immigrated to the US and labored

(01:41:02):
um the US soil to make it the wealthiest country
in the world. That is white mythology. The truth of
the matter is that this country was founded on nothing
less than genocide and nothing less than theft, full stop.
And so he's talking to people that want to continue
to live in this um, this world where that is

(01:41:24):
really the gospel, but it's not the truth. And it
is very much so an unrepentant history. And so when
you think about the way that uh, Betsy Divos, who
only came into power because as Dr Carr says, Smiley
Mike Pence cast it the tie breaking vote in the
Wells and the Senate as the president of the Senate,
you now see how uh they have joined forces in

(01:41:48):
order to continue to depress and oppress um black folks,
right is so particularly black children, just coming off of
the last segment um that you just had there a
moment ago. And so if people don't really kind of
see use these as smelling salts to understand that these
people mean nobody any good. Um. The goal is oligarchies

(01:42:11):
in place. The goal is to have an authority, authoritarian
government UM ran by a white man, held down by
white men. That and in that direction, it doesn't matter
who gets dozed over, it will be black and brown people. Largely,
but there will be white casualties as well. And so
what people don't really come into the understanding that the

(01:42:34):
media is just a tool to really telegraph the message
of the apartheid state that the United States of America
is headed into. UM. I don't know what you know
other evidence that people need that this is really um
nothing more than a group of folks who will do nothing, um,
will stop at nothing rather to have all of the

(01:42:56):
power that they actually demand. And the whole deal with
bringing up Howard's in and all this in ordered nonsense.
I mean, these are illiterate people. These are individuals who
know nothing. These are individuals who who who are who
are full of it? Uh, Stephen Miller, we know Dan
Well Trump can read and so hell he can barely

(01:43:19):
even say to say to number sixteen nineteen seventeen seventy six.
But again and not only that, like I have the
story right here, Uh go to my iPad. Dallas Independent
School District apologized for an assignment that asks high school
students to write an essay about a modern hero and
suggested Kyle Rittenhouse, the seventeen year old charged with killing

(01:43:40):
two people doing protests in Kodosha, Wisconsin. I mean we
I have been great. I have been saying two people
since two thousand nine. We're living in the age of
white minority resistance, where white people are in the majority,
but they're they have people like, oh no, no, we're losing.
When they keep saying we're losing our culture, our values,

(01:44:02):
what they're actually saying, greg is whiteness no longer dominates.
They know they what they're saying is, damn we gotta
ask to consider We gotta consider black people, and consider Latinos,
and consider Asians and Native Americans. We now gotta listen
to y'all that that's that's all. This is. That's right,

(01:44:28):
you know, and this is why everybody needs to break
off some change and support Roland Martin unfiltered, because this
is your platform, this is black owned, and you can
say whatever you want to whoever you want. Three quick things.
Number one, he's not well. Something wrong with that man.
You saw him laboring going from teleprompter to teleprom something
wrong with him. And Howard's then, who died ten years ago,

(01:44:50):
could have walked in there and shook his hand, he
would have known who he's talking about, which leads me
to the second of the three points um, because this
is your platform, because it is black owned, because it
is unfeel to the unvarnished. I hope you can track
down Jane Guerrero because the author of that speech Stephen Miller. Uh,
she breaks him down and hate monger. I want to
watch you and Jeane Guerrero have a conversation about Stephen Miller,

(01:45:13):
because that is the words as you say that, we're
going through his mouth as he moved his rotting body
from teleprompter the teleprompter, because something is wrong with him.
And the third thing is Stephen Miller. It's Joseph Gebels,
the man they called the boys and in nineteen thirty
three when the Nazi took over in German. That's why
ERICI just laid this out. This is this ain't about truth.

(01:45:37):
When Gebels was appointed Minister of Propaganda in the Nasci
regime in nineteen thirty three, the first thing he did
was banned books by Jewish authors. Then he started putting
this propaganda out. And you know finally that Gebels had
the famous quote that says, if you tell a lot
big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come
to believe it. This ain't no arguing about the truth, Lord,

(01:46:00):
this is about propaganda. He went on to say that
the life can be maintained only as long as the
state can shield the people from the political, the economic,
and the military implications of the life. In other words,
that's why the COVID thing is about. They just straight
propaganda and only it can only be maintained as long
as you can shield the people from the implications. But

(01:46:22):
the people are dying now. Finally, Girdle said, the truth
is the mortal enemy of the life, and thus by extension,
the truth is the mortal enemy of the state. Understand
what they are doing. We we let's not waste any
more time debating whether or not or do they noted
and not no polis is girdled them thirty three man,

(01:46:43):
this is straight propaganda, As as Reese has said, and
as Erica said, this is straight propaganda. I would love
to hear you and Jane Guerrero talk about Stephen Millark
for a solid hour hour now, because if we don't
get this straight, we are going to be living in
that Aparte state that Erica just talked about. Uh, trust me,
we certainly would track her down. And the reason and
I need people to understand. I have a number to day.

(01:47:07):
Thank god I found your show, because you are saying
stuff that I had never heard before. There's a woman
named Robbing. I forgot a last name. Uh. She tweets
me all the time. She says, thank god, she said,
because I would not know a lot of this stuff.
And I'm and I keep telling people, y'all, y'all people

(01:47:31):
playing around talking about Trump the same as Biden. Please,
y'all can mark what what's the date? September sev y'all
can write this day down. I'm telling you, if you
think you've seen evil, you do not want to see evil.

(01:47:53):
If you wake up on November four and this fool
is being reelected, I'm telling you. This week, Mr McConnell
pushed through eight federal judges lifetime appointments. They won't even
vote on a damn COVID bill. They won't even vote.
They don't they doing no other business in the United

(01:48:14):
States sent it, but pushing through judges. You heard Donald
Trump's the other day. He said, by the end of
this year, we're gonna approve three hundred judges. Y'all need
to understand. It's only it's only nine hundred federal judges
in America. That's right. You give him four more years,
they will have appointed half of all federal judges in

(01:48:34):
the United States. And they purposely are picking judges thirty
five or forty five who are largely right what right
wing men? Only one of those two hundred plus judges
they picked as black dog. They they are real clear
they want to put the power in the hands of
white men, right, they got token white women. They don't

(01:48:58):
even want them. Donald Trump and Stephen Miller and Bill
Barr are all about see when they criticize sixteen nineteen,
what they really are going back to is richly see,
you'all gotta understand if y'all ain't truly read, uh dark
bargain are read and stuff. The United the United States

(01:49:18):
of America was founded to be controlled by landowning white men.
Some of y'all might say, well, why you just say
not white men, Because if you were a white man
who didn't own land, they didn't want your ass to
have power. The electoral College was created as a slavery

(01:49:39):
compromised as a way for them to control who became
president in case the poor white people chose somebody else.
Y'all black people, we weren't even in the conversation Latinos,
not the conversations NAVE America's agents. No, So you need
to understand what Donald Trump and Mitch McConnell and Kevin

(01:50:04):
McCarthy and all of them, what they desire is a
nation that is holding onto white supremacy of white men.
I'm not understating this at all. You need to understand
when Donald Trump says, oh, if it wasn't for coronavirus

(01:50:26):
in those blue states, our numbers will be lower. Y'all,
ninety thousand people have died a coronavirus in red states.
Y'all need to understand, I'm telling you. And so I'm
not playing with y'all on this when I'm talking about
this election. This you do not want to see it.

(01:50:47):
And see, let me tell you what just went down
a few hours ago. I didn't include this earlier. I'm
just gonna read it. Um the Pennsylvania State Supreme Court
or Trump about to be mad at held the Pennsylvania
Supreme Court. As an extended from the Philadelphia, the Philly
dot Com has extended the state's mail ballot deadlines on Thursday,

(01:51:09):
move that could allow tens of thousands of additional votes
to be counted. UH. State law says mail ballots must
be received by a PM on election day, but the
state Supreme Court said Thursday that ballots will be counted
if they are received by five pm the Friday after
the November third election. UH. To count ballots arriving after

(01:51:31):
election day, they must either be postmarked by November third
or have no proof they were sent afterwards. Not only that, UH,
they also the state Supreme Court held that the state
election law allows counties to use drop boxes for hand
delivery of mail ballots. UH. They also denied Don Trump's

(01:51:52):
request UH to allow poll workers to work in other
counties other than the ones where they are registered. They
also denied a re quest and other people be allowed
to deliver voters ballots, and the Pennsylvania Supreme Court kicked
the Green Party's presidential candidate off the ballot. That happened.

(01:52:13):
Now here's the issue. I saw a story earlier in
North Carolina. They're saying that for all the ballots being returned,
one of them, uh, one out of every four, for
white as being kicked out black people. I need now,
anybody listening, I need you to Listen, they are targeting.
If you're gonna vote by mail, they are targeting your ballots.

(01:52:37):
You have to follow every single law. If it's fays,
bubble it in. Do not just mark a line through. No,
you must literally bubble it inside the circles. I'm just
saying the rally is Gregg, you said it. You're going
vote in person. I was gonna I was gonna vote.

(01:52:58):
I was gonna vote by absentee ballot because because I'm
strough registered in Texas, I'm actually early voting in Texas
starts October. I'm flying home. Wow, because I'm just because
I mean, I've flown home before. I've flown home and
vote before. But this is that we understand the game

(01:53:20):
that they are playing, even with mill in mill in battling,
So we need to understand what's going down, folks. Uh.
And So that's why people, they can still toss out
your balance even when you vote in person. So it's
still important that no matter how you vote, that you
fill out your back right right. But but but it's
it's but it's harder to toss that ballot when you

(01:53:43):
vote in person. Uh And and and that's the piece
because again some places have touched screen. Some people have
and then where you you touch screen and then you
scan your ballot in and then it tells you out.
So I didn't everybody listening, why you must take your
precautions and take your time, uh and and planning this properly.
And so we're gonna have our education segment. Education matters

(01:54:04):
every single week. All right, y'all real quick, y'all know
what time it is? C A w P. What I
got to harding water on my property conference. Black woman

(01:54:30):
Tiffany Johnson jogging in New York fifty third place in
Broadway and Woodside, Queens when a white woman threw a
bottle at her and yell, get out of here, nigga,
go back to Africa. The video was captured by a bystander.
Oh ship, did you get that? At first she thought

(01:54:59):
maybe the crazy as a white woman had been taking
her for someone else. Now she says it was a
hate crime and she wants her to be hell responsible.
Damn blood. You can't joggon, will black Erica? Now let
me tell you something. It is the blood of Jesus,
the power of God in the presence of the Holy Spirit.
Because number one, I heard glass so That means that

(01:55:21):
she had her rusty lips on whatever it was that
she was drinking and probably transported those particles onto my body.
Ninety sixty a hundred these hands. That is completely completely
a call for come get me. So um, I you

(01:55:43):
know the high road that she took. God bless her
for that. But we are in a time, in a
place in this country where folks have been given the
que to do what you please to these people. I
will protect you. He said that. The son of a
clansman said that to Rally when he was then candidate.
Do whatever you like to these people, I'll take care

(01:56:04):
of your lawyers. They're following the orders of their false god.
And I'm saying I want to see the footage of
people giving hands back, laying these people down, so that
there will be left of these videos. Mhm. Let me
tell you what mistaken identity or not she got the
right one if she come across somebody like me, because

(01:56:27):
I'm beating her whole ass on that tree. That broken
glass is gonna be all up and through your your body,
because that is just complete. That is that is like
beyond a lot of the stuff that we've talked about
on the show that was glass being thrown at a
black woman jogging and God bless her, but she needed

(01:56:51):
to beat the hell out of that woman. Okay, don't
we don't turn the cameras off, don't call the police.
I man handle this right here, right now. Is she
gonna know to never ever ever do anything like that
ever again? That's how you have to that situation. Greg, No, listen,
I look, man, I love example. I already know if

(01:57:12):
that bottle hadn't come anywhere near Ready or Erica, what
would have happened? They would have captured the whole ass
beaten on camera. I'm just trying to figure out this
to say, rolling whether they're in Staton Island somewhere, because
clearly they ain't knowin Queens and depending on what part
of Queen's is the most diverse, uh neighborhood borrow in
in the country. So I mean, I wonder we even
what part of Queens. But you know, broken glass, I

(01:57:36):
mean broken glass. When you say broken glass, immediately I thought, look,
we just said Girbels. In nineteen thirty they had crystal Kno,
that's when these roads asked Germans just regular folks go
out and smash all the windows of the Jewish businesses
and the Jewish houses, because as Ericas just said, they
have been given the signal it's okay, and so going

(01:58:00):
out there and do whatever the hell you want. That
white woman. As much as I would love to see
that asswhipping from either one of our sisters, the simple
fact of the matter is that that white woman is
representing every white person in this country right now who
thinks they can go into a confrontation and win one.
But they're in recently getting the right ones. But my god, brother,

(01:58:24):
that's just now y'all want y'all want to see stuck
on stupid. Look at these dumbasses in Florida at Target
a serious stop recording her now sucking washing them. We
don't have food. Tell me you just rushed me. You
know that one? She just rushed that in she recording me.

(01:58:45):
Can you get her away from meat? Now he gets
the ball over, I got that one on. Stop recording up.
I was hitting this out. Okay, we're getting food. We're
trying to leave. Go that one. You're going up mentioned
everything else go that way because turn not sore for me.
We're trying to recording it up, going up, recording turn.

(01:59:08):
Stop going out and recording my life. It's get the look.
I am a d d Get the fucking donna lave long.
I was staying out with Rick, go out stop record
just turned again. So fucking god, that stop sucking God.
The rewarding away from me where I don't Is that way? Man? Noah,

(01:59:31):
call that way? Can I I'll look the funk out?
Can touch me? Can she go away? Can you leave us? Long?
I was get hurt least I just know gets coming
up to walk her up. I'm down, all right? That

(02:00:00):
actually was a Walmart. Watch these dumbasses that target in Florida, idiot. Uh.

(02:00:36):
The other day though, after this video came out, my
wife went to a target in Virginia. Uh, and she
sent me uh this particular photo here. Uh, dame playing
with y'all. Due to emergency order, you must wear a
face covering to enter this story. I'm telling you right now,
this this this is where, this is where if folks

(02:00:57):
want to act to fool not wearing masks find you
come down right there in the parking lot. Personally, I
don't want to witness the spectacle in person of a
bunch of white degenerators who don't want to wear masks,
spreading their droplets respiratory droplets in my space. I'll watch
it on the internet. If I see any fools just

(02:01:18):
like that, I'm walking the hell away. I'm not confront
of people unless you come into me. Then you do
your crazy white people stuff over there, because it's too
much disease going out here to be even interacting with
these crazy people. It's it's it's it's any eyetic that
I mean, I mean, this is the reason why we
cannot move beyond because you have these people who all

(02:01:40):
of a sudden ericas like, oh my god, my freedoms.
Then you got Bill Barrow with his stupid comments about love.
This is this is the most against civil liberties since,
uh since slavery, which he called that was another type
of restraint. Oh really, I mean, I'm sure the Japanese
who were who were internment camps in World War two
might kind of disagree with the mask Erica for sure.

(02:02:03):
But see, this is what happens when a group that
has not been oppressed feels oppressed. They have no idea
what oppression is. They have no idea what oppression feels like.
At all their whiteness affords them the freedom to do
whatever the hell that they want to do. Because in
all of those clips that you showed, if those um,

(02:02:25):
if there was Melanie, if there if their skin tones
would have been a bit darker. I'm just wondering where
all of the target Walmarts, all of the security cops
that usually find their way into stories. We're thinking about
a John Crawford who purchased a weapon from Walmart and
was killed because someone called the police on him. So

(02:02:47):
this is really bullshit to me. And if people want
to continue to make their stupidity on display for a
global reasoning, go ahead and do it. I'll just say,
for for a person like me, I'm not even entertaining
these stories. If it can't be ordered online, if it's
not something I can go and kind of grab and get,
you know, I'm out of the game. But again, this
is more of the same, and we're gonna continue to

(02:03:08):
see more of the same of a group of people
that feel as though they are actually being restricted and
not being able to do what the hell they want
to do, which is what they're accustomed to do the
inception of the country. No, I agree, I agree with
Erica and and re see. I mean you know, rolling
and you've been very careful. That's why I say when
you for you to get on plane and going to vote,

(02:03:30):
your signaling to everybody. Just have importantly, I ain't flowing
since February. I ain't gonna nowhere. I know it. I
mean you you haven't even gone. I mean, like to say,
the march Washington, you haven't even covered stuff. Man on
me because you already one man game there. I mean,
you got the staff with you, the crew. But you
you've been very careful. So I said that to say
this like you, Erica, I mean I've been very careful.

(02:03:51):
You know, you go in, you make your targeting thing.
There are a few places that I ventured out from
in a moment. You know. One of them is you
know my people now saying Cofa books because you know
we're trying to keep these black bookstores going and with
social distancing, the brothers and they're moving stuff around. But
I'm gonna tell you right now, white boy, come in, girl,
come in saying COVID with no mas stone like they're
just gonna show their freedoms. Um, there's a simple phrase.

(02:04:15):
One are the five words the cops use. I have
feared for my life, and um, I'm going to take
out all the teeth anybody roll up in a place
like that. In fact, I probably wouldn't be able to
do that. I'm not gonna issue that threat because I
wouldn't get to them, because I wouldn't be the one
closest to the door. Here's the message, white folks, go

(02:04:36):
to your super No, I don't even say white folks,
here's your here's the message, White nash because because it's
also some dumb black folks with over this mass stuff
too well, well, exactly right, and go to your super
spread er rallies with Donald Trump. Yell, please, yell as
loud as you can, because when Donald Trump asked yesterday
about that, he says, oh, there's no problem. I'm I'm

(02:04:58):
far away from them, thinking about himself. See, can you
close the gap a little bit and uh, you know,
you know, get out there and spitting, cheering, you know,
sing Dixie, do it all and then baby, this thing
can be settled by by nature. Well, I'm I'm just
I'm just gonna go ahead and say this here, uh

(02:05:20):
to close this out. Uh, if you roll up that
way on me, I'm gonna start singing. Uh, theoti's eally
stand up in it, but that ain't gonna be the meaning. Oh,
Rolling rolling your own for that, brother, They don't know
that reference. Brother, you got old Rolling. I can't believe
you for that song. I'm I'm gonna stand up in it,

(02:05:42):
but it ain't gonna be what that song talking about.
I'm just letting y'all know. I'm just letting you you
roll that way up with my wife or my nieces. Okay,
just letting y'all know. Let y'all know. Uh, we got
some folks who supp with our fan club. Hey, Rolling,
thank you for um for speaking truths and power. I

(02:06:03):
haven't been a viewer for long, but I've learned so
very much from your show. Please keep up the good work,
and thank you for all you do to enlighten our
minds and our hearts. That was unsigned, but I appreciate that.
Uh enclosed my membership for a fee to join the
Army Fan Club. It took a minute, uh, but uh
it finally got started. Almost met you years ago when

(02:06:23):
Hill Harper was in town and you came to the
bookstore where he was signing books and sharing insights. I
so admire what you're doing for our community. Best is
yet to come, Beverly Singleton, I appreciate it. Y'all. Y'all
be sending notes on anything. This is uh like uh
like a Franklin Covey planner did Uncle Rorod never write

(02:06:44):
to any programs, but I am compelled to drop you
a note. My sister is an avid fan of your show,
now a new member of your fan club. Your show
is always on. She repeats shows to make sure she
doesn't miss anything. We are both over sixties, so getting
black news is so relevant and important. We tell folks
all the time to tune in. We gotta keep this going,

(02:07:08):
real dialogue, real info. Too much cussing for me, though,
but I love the show. Well ship, you know how
we do. I'm messing with you. So that's that's Cindy
Harrison Oldham, the sister of Tony Harrison. She was so
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