September 1, 2025 • 36 mins
Hollywood Cringe time! We break down the Pam Anderson and Liam Neeson love (?) affair. Plus more drama with Blake Lively, now involving Megyn Kelly. Sydney Sweeney is dating everyone everywhere all at once, and a little more on the Scott Wolf fiasco. Oh and Snoop DOGG.
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Speaker 1 (00:15):
Hello, everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
It is me Cecily Knobler here with my friend Stephanie
Wilder Taylor. Just friends, best friends, romantic set, also sexually
sexual friends, situationship.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
We're in a situationship. A lot of people don't know that.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
A lot of people don't know that. I. Yes, I'm
sort of breaking news here.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
This is Hollywood cringe. We got to bring people in,
let them know what's up. A lot of people are like,
what's going on with the podcast? What's going on with
your relationship? A lot of people ask that, and I'm like, well, yeah,
is it sexual.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Yes. I like to call it now. I like to
make it cute. I call it Polly Molly. I say
we're Polly Molly. I made that up and a lot
of people and then I had to what do you
call it when you trademark? I trademarked it. M hmm.
But I'm fighting with Perez Hilton for it. I have
a story about Perez Hilton in trademarks. Real quick, before
(01:13):
we get into this today. Sure, my friend was the
first person to say amaze balls ah ah. Yes, she
said it. She said it on Facebook, she said it
on Twitter. She nobody else was saying amaze balls. Then
he started saying it, but she hadn't trademarked it, and
she was kind of mad, she my thing, Prez oh,
(01:34):
Prez Hilton. Yeah, sorry, yes, So he started saying it
and she I don't think she tried to sue him,
but she might have tried to say, like, hey, that's
kind of my thing. But you can't just say that's
kind of your thing, right if you haven't done I mean,
what can you do.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
It's sort of like the you know, I always like
to remind people that you were when you were the
first and only person I knew at the time that
said really really and.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
I loved it.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Remember that. I was like, it's so funny when you go.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Really, it's weird.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
And it became the biggest thing ever. But I took
it from Hank, my ex right friend. Well, you took
it from somebody. But I'm saying, like nobody was doing
it back then. It wasn't like you started doing it
and then like a week later, other, No, it was you. You
were the first person I knew you had done it for,
like I want to say, at least a year or two. Yeah,
(02:25):
before I heard anyone else ever say.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
That really really, really, you have to kind of it's
kind of like you say something just be like I
love that shirt, or like I love that lady's shirt.
Really yeah exactly, but yes, what we all know to
be the new really, but you were doing it first.
Thank you for thank you for giving me that. I'm
(02:47):
not going to sue you now. However, our situationship is over.
We still have a friendship and we still have this podcast.
We just don't have that. I just don't want to.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
I don't want to.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Uber over to your house late at night. Do you
want me to before we get into all the stories
we have. Do you want me to just give you?
And we're not going to get into this. I hope
people will just google it, but you need to know.
People need to know that Snoop.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Dogg is so awful.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
I've been seeing this.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
He's upset about a Pixar movie that showed two women
being in love.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Oh he has gone He's gone so fucking far crazy, right, Yeah,
he's really freaking maga And.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Is he maga though? Is he he's not maga? Yeah,
he's just crazy.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
He's like, wow, maga now, and he's very like the
left has an agenda and they're trying to gay up
all our kids, and yeah, there's a great Oh, let
me try to find this because Marlon Wayan's flat back
at him. Oh, I think I saved it on my phone.
(04:00):
I love a clap back, a clap back. Marlon Wayans
was like, oh, hell no.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
A lot of people are saying hell no to that.
I mean a lot of people are standing up. And
I want to remind people while you're looking for that.
Is that not so long ago?
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Maybe five years ago?
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Snoop quoted Lewis ferrikhn In calling Jewish people maggots. That
is our Snoop dog and listen as a jew who
is not a maggot. I don't think I still if
Snoop comes on, yeall tap my toe. It's one of
those ones where I'm like, okay, stop, you got to
stop with that. Though you can not.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
That's okay, We're not going to get into a thing
where we're arguing, but that's basically defending it.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
You can't, you can't. That's a well, I don't care
about his views. I like his music, not that I
know that, but my point is I very much care
about his views. This was coming aimed directly to, you know,
are my people Like I was horrified by his views
and really sad and really sad that a lot of
a lot of people didn't say anything. But I'm saying,
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if I'm in the back of an uber and a
song comes on, I'm able to separate those things.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Okay, it is good for you. But you know who's
not able to separate it is Marlon Wayans. And I'm
going to tell you what he said. Basically, this is
this girl that I love following her stuff. She's this
black woman who points out a lot of like racial stuff.
Her name is Mookie the Magnificent. Oh I've yeah, I've
seen her. So she posted this. You know, she's a
(05:26):
little bit famous for she posted this thing.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
This was a long time ago, asking white people to
give us their questions about black people. Yeah, I remember that, Yes, Okay,
So she wrote this, Snoop is trash and there isn't
any defending that he's worried about explaining the existence of
lgbt QIA plus people to his grandchild, but not his harmful,
degrading lyrics or criminal past.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
It isn't surprising at this point. And then she posted
a comment by Marlon Wayans which says, I'm tired of
defending this N word. I defended him on his criminal shit,
the Gail Kings situation, and I took heat for defending
him online when he performed for Trump. But this crosses
the line. Sooner or later, you just realize someone has issues.
(06:16):
There ain't no Hollywood agenda to turn kids gay. That
is the dumbest shit I've ever heard. Disney characters lie, steel,
cheap kill, poison and everything, and don't nobody say it's
an agenda to turn their kids into a piece of shit.
I watched Snow White when I was a kid, and
I ain't give a bitch a poison apple yet, But
as soon as a gay character pops up, it's an agenda.
(06:39):
The agenda is to make your kids empathetic, not gay.
White people acted the same way when black people started
being seen on TV. Marlon Wilson, right, love that, Yes,
I love that.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
You know what we did on Today's Hollywood Cringe. We
learned it, We learned, we opened up. I'm listening, and
I agree with you. I'm not going to pay those people.
I'm not going to like download their music and give
them money, that's for sure. But sometimes you know it's
like Thriller. I always come back to Thriller. I do.
I am not a fan of Michael Jackson. I do
believe that he was extremely horrifically abusive. And it's so hard.
(07:15):
It's the question that I mean, I'm not the only
one that has this thing like Thriller comes on your party.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Point of pointing out, there's no real point of saying, like, yeah,
but I like his music.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
I don't. It's just the fing It's not a point
or not a point, Nope, Like it's just a it's
just a thing that I think a lot of people
can relate to. Like it sucks. It's so hard, Like
it's so there's there's people even in the world is
like I like.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Their shirt, but they're a terrible but I mean, like
just none of those it's not that hard not to
listen to Snoop Dogg's music.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Well I'm not just not. I'm not seeking it out.
But I had that issue with Ryan Adams. That was
my problem. Like I Heartbreaker is one of my favorite
albums ever, and I cannot.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
I don't. I don't seek it. I don't like go
to listen to it first.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
But yeah, I just am like, I know he's not
a good guys, not treated people well, and yet I
still love.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Come pick me up.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
And it's just like maybe it's like just trying to
make sense of it because there's so many people like
that now, there's so many people that's just like, Wow,
I know your biggest issue is how much you love
kid rock, and that's that's just hard on your soul.
I just love dance to kid rock. It just makes
me want to spiral. I just want to dance. Yeah,
and you're like want to wave and yeah, America's ruining
(08:31):
kid rock for me. Anyway, let's move on to another story. Okay,
all right, well this is this is a roller coaster
for me. This is another one that uh so a
couple of days ago. So we obviously broke.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
The news on the show.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
We broke up first, we were the first people to
break the news that Pam Anderson and Liam Neeson were
one hundred percent really in love. I'm just kidding. We
didn't break that story, but we were. We liked the story.
I did have a little some reservations about the fact
that they were like, finally, he's in an age appropriate
relationship when he's fifteen years older, which is fine, but
(09:06):
when he's in seventies, can we not do that?
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Can we not?
Speaker 2 (09:09):
They don't congradulate thy right, Yes, he doesn't get a
day named after him because I mean he's in his
seventies she's in her fifties and it's Pam Anderson.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
And that was making me mad too.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
It's like she's so natural and she's just make up free, care,
no care and the wast like, well, she's not botox
free though, and she's not facelived free. I mean that's
fine if you want to like celebrate the no makeup thing.
I think it's beautiful and I think, yeah, sure, we
don't have to pile ourselves on with Kim Kardashian makeup.
But it's making people that don't look like that feel
(09:40):
bad because maybe they need a little something because they
haven't had all the work done on their face.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Also, do you know how much like lasers are. I
am dying. I want to get a crack so bad,
laser so bad, and it is very like five thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
It's like a friend of mine did it because somebody
was telling me to do it, and then they said okay,
Like package number one would be two thousand.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Yes, yeah, no, it's a lot, and some nups people
it helps them.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
But the what you have to go, what your skin
goes through to get there, I don't know, pretty awful
turn out, like where they just get like all bloodied.
And yes, I would do it though if I could
afford it. Yeah, no it is it is expensive.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
So now, so TMZ just a couple of days ago
came out with in the heartbreaking they said that the
whole Pam Anderson liam Neeson love story was totally faked
by the PR team and the studio to sell tickets
to Naked Gun.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
So everybody's like sitting with that and like I knew it.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
It never seemed real every I mean, you know, thousands
of threads and redit whatever. But now People Magazine today,
so yesterday when you're hearing this, says it was absolutely
not fake to source that quote. Everything between them has
been genuine. Neither would ever take part in a publicity stunt.
We know that. First of all, I saw the thing
(10:56):
with Tommy Lee. I still believe that as a publicity stunt.
But okay, go on, I mean, you know, okay.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Also probably and I don't I don't know, what we've
learned since then, but probably they were so horrified by
the bat There was probably backlash to the fact that
it was a publicity stunt and people were like, well,
fuck off, We're going to not go see your movie
because of that, because that's gross. And then they were
like no, no, no, kidding again, Ah, just kidding again.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Sure. I mean so so many people are like yeah,
like no, they're I mean, they're one hundred percent together.
But even if it was a publicity stunt, it would
have I was sad about it because I really.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Wanted these two people to be together.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
They really seemed genuine They were so funny together in
the movie, and they seemed genuinely good together. So that
bummed me out. But I wasn't like mad like few jerks,
because it actually kind of supports the movie. You know,
the movie's so silly. It wouldn't be that big of
a deal. It'd be like, oh, okay, I fell for
a thing. Glad people saw it, even if it was
because of that. But I don't think people went to
(12:00):
go see it because they were like in love. You
don't think people or.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Would go see the movie because they're like, oh, I
want to see if they really have chemistry. I guess
some people did.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Yeah, I mean I feel like the people that want
to see naked gun was they were going to see it.
But maybe, yeah, maybe there's a few of those. But
I can't imagine. Be like, I want my money back,
I must have because okay, you know where I got mad.
I got mad at the exact same thing, but it
was with Gaga Bradley Cooper because when they were trying.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Yeah, those idiots were too And I say idiots. I
like Lady Gaga a lot. I like them both, but
they were pushing it so hard.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
It was like, first off, I know they're not together,
she has like a boyfriend. This is so stupid, it's
so dumb. But they really staring in each other's eyes
at the Grammys. Stuff looked like they were going to kiss.
Remember that, Yes, and it was, and they held the
camera on it for so long and I was like,
that's insulting to our intelligence. Yes, I mean, he would
(12:58):
never date someone as oldest Lady Gaga, even though he's
older and Gaga can do better. I mean, look, come
on now, I'm very team Gaga on everything.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Really, did she have a boyfriend at the time? I
think she did or he had.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
No, he was married and that was part of the
that was part of the thing in her life front. No, yeah,
it looks like but his long time. I mean it
was like a big deal. Yes, wasn't it wasn't her
name like Camilla or something? Or is that?
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Am I thinking of Matthew McConaughey, you guys don't come
here for the accuracy.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
That's all I'm saying. He was with like this Russian
model that's like his I think his arena. Is he
still with her? Yeah? I think no, No, No, he's
now with Jihadid. Oh now, let me let me remind
you they've been together a while. He's in his fifties,
she's and I still leave her twenties.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
No. I would just.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Love it if we gang up on Jen Aniston for
dating a life coach hypnotist.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
But I asked her.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
I said, please stop dating a list movie stars, and
she's like, Okay, I'll date this hypnotist, right, So I
have to give her that I have. If I have
to give her something, it's that. So anyway, we don't
know for sure if Pam and Liam are together, but
People magazine says no, that part was a lie. TMZ
is wrong. They are totally in love, don't you worry.
(14:16):
I don't know that we care that much, but I
kind of like that story. Okay, I'm gonna move on.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Our country is just falling apart, but we're all we're
just like, we don't have democracy, but we can all
sleep tonight because Pam and Liam are together.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Okay, right, he did the double og. I say that,
and you're like, God, you did not have to say
d to the double og. That's Stephanie. You know that's
my palette cleanser. In between stories, I have to say,
like a rap lyric. It doesn't matter. That's just the
one that came to mind.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
They're like, it's kind of your fault for reminding me about.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
How much I love him.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
I wasn't even thinking about him. Although, yeah, no, what
a tool. Okay, So this one's interesting.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Taylor Swift's well kind of nemesis Scooter bra Well, that
is one of her nemesi, Scooter Braun, for sure. He's
the exact record exact who would not let her record
her own her own music, so she had right Tler's versions.
We all know who Scooter is. He's in trouble with
a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
So this video is also the the oh no I'm
thinking of I'm thinking of a Lou Pearlman. Oh yeah,
Lou Pearlman.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Oh god no.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Scooter's young was also the one that.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
He was a Justin Bieber guy and Justin stayed with
him for a long time till he didn't right. Right,
he's like a good looking guy in his forties. He
is not he is no Lou Pearlman.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Wasn't he was?
Speaker 2 (15:39):
He the one that was also uh Kesha that was
thinking of Luke doctor Luke.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Okay, I love that I know all the record like
the record label guys.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
I don't know why I meant that guy was a
bad dude for sure, right, And it's interesting that you
bring up because Katie Perry then did after Kesha said,
like this guy like raped me. You know, she actually
assaulted me. Katy Perry then did music with him. Are
our friend Katie yep?
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Oh, I don't like Katy Perry and not no, no, no.
Katy Perry is so terrible.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
She's the fucking worst. She's in a lawsuit right now
with veterans trying to take the house down. First of
those nuns. Now it's she's just like really vile. Yeah,
and that comes back around actually because so Scooter, this
resurface video from stupid Jeff Bezos's wedding, which I can't
believe we're still talking about. And I also can't believe
that why did Jeff Bezos have these randos at his wedding?
Speaker 1 (16:38):
What kind of wedding is this? That Scooter Braun is there?
Speaker 2 (16:40):
I mean, okay, I get it, that guy's like some
rich millionaire, but why was Sydney Sweeney there? She's not
that famous, Like that's crazy? What kind of bullshit is this?
So this videos resurface of Scooter Braun kind of looking
maybe romantic on a stroll with Sydney Sweeney. But the
weird thing is that Sydney was also kind of looking
romantic with Tom Brady.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
I get that.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
And then Orlando Bloom, who had non officially split from
Katie but they were still they had not announced their
splits yet, so people were like, what's Orlando Bloom doing
alone at this wedding? And that's when remember Katie had
been shot off into space, yes, and then wasn't at
the wedding, which is also really weird. She was doing,
she was working or something as like, oh please, she
(17:24):
would have known when the wedding was ahead of time
and would have like not had a concert that night. Yes,
if anybody wanted to be at that disgusting wedding, it
was Archakie.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Yes, it was our Katie.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
So that's interesting that, like everybody's been spotted with Sydney Sweeney.
Maybe that was a pr thing like Okay, i'll take
a stroll with you, and at four o'clock, I'll take
a stroll with you. We'll hold hands in a way,
if she was trolling, that's kind of funny, kind of hilarious,
really staying. But what a douchey wedding. Oh my god,
so tacky.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
The dress was so tame.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
I mean, you have billions of dollars literally, and that's
the dress. Get it together, Learn something from George Clooney
in a mall is more shill out all right?
Speaker 1 (18:08):
For one second, I thought you said learn something from
George Clooney and a mall like a mall, like a
like a mall, and get and get your dress a
contempo casuals people, Yes, go to Limited too.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
They have just as cute dresses as you're going to
get any cuture wedding gown dress. Okay, you're not gonna
like this. But I have to do a public cleanse.
I have to palot cleans. Okay, we think of something
else besides Snoop. I A'm saying, she a gold digger. Okay,
should have done Kanye now shit, Okay, now, but I
(18:45):
have to do something.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
And that's just what's coming to mind.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
This is going to be the death of our podcast. Okay, God,
believe me, believe you me, I hear you, and I
agree with you.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
But many people are conflicted.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
It's not that they're conflicted that they want those people
to be successful or that they want to give them
money or go to their concert. But it's hard. After
many years gold it's hard. I'm sorry, it's hard. Let's
move on to the next thing. Blake Lively, who is
still happening? What comes now? There's even worse people involved. So,
so Blake was very upset when she's putting together. They're
(19:22):
doing their discovery right, so they have to get all
these witnesses and comments from people and subpoena all these
people to talk. And now so Blake is throwing in
I guess allegedly Megan Kelly. Because Megan Kelly, who we
also don't like, you do I know you love her
for her strength, you said, her wisdom and her strength.
I'm like, I think she's pretty awful. But she talked
(19:42):
a lot of shit about this as we did, as
we all did. She's she's reported on it on her
podcast constantly, and she does not like Blake Lively. So
now Blake is throwing her into like the what do
you call it? This smear campaign? So she she apparently
got subpoenaed, but Blake's side says it's not true that
they did not subpoena'm Megan Kelly. So Meghan went on
(20:04):
her podcast and said that quote Blake is a narcissistic bully.
She said, because Blake was, Blake Lively was unable to
fathom that yours truly meaning Meghan, had developed a genuine
repulsion toward her. On her own, she posited that I
is that right that I must have been ensnared in
(20:25):
Justin's alleged smear campaign. That is a lot to unpack.
Let's try to unpack this, say, let's do it. Well,
Megan Kelly is a horrible person. Yeah, well, yes, so
we hate none of these people are great. Yeah, so
there's no heroes in this story at all. But I
just just to explain what's happening is just that, so
Blake is going after she's allegedly she's saying she's not,
(20:47):
but she allegedly was going after Megan Kelly for talking
shit about her and siding with Justin, and Megan's coming
out and going, girl, I didn't need to do anything
to side. I already didn't like you. Justin didn't do
anything to make me not like you. I don't like you.
That's what she's trying to say. Meanwhile, Justin where's He's
probably on a yacht somewhere. He seems like the type
of guy that just went on like some South American
(21:08):
ayahuasca retreat after this, and it's just fine.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
He's fine. He's probably like there's still a lawsuit, silly.
He's got to be fine now that.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Like he knows that the public opinion is on his side,
right well, even when the opinion seems to change every
now and then, the opinion seems to shift back to
Blake lively because you know her team will do something,
or somebody on TikTok will do something, but then it
always goes back.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
People just don't I think there. I think that people,
especially right now, this is I'm gonna pause it like
a theory. The thing that really fucks her up is
the Taylor Swift of it all. And I think that
that Taylor Swift and she don't seem to be friends
anymore is making people automatically.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Team Justin. What do you think about that? Totally? But
I think that they had already turned before the Taylor
Swift of it all. I think that they already too
much came out about her, many too much proof. You
don't have a lot of stuff on every video they
tried to put out about Justin on Blake's side, didn't
really make him look that bad. They don't have video
of him being I mean, I'm not entirely sure he
(22:18):
wasn't inappropriate at times, or do she or whatever, But
she doesn't really have proof. But they've got proof on her. Yeah,
they they did a shady thing by like kind of
getting a campaign against her.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
They did do that, but they always do that.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
She knows it's nothing new, and that's crazy and it's
like that's not on the PR team to make her
look like a total coups in these interviews towards journalists.
They can't make that they're not splicing it together. And
as I've said many times, when she comes up, I
have a friend that knows that family very well and
said that Blake was horrific and said this years ago,
(22:54):
way before any of this happened. But she was just
filed mean to the help. One of those kind of
people like sorry, I don't know from personal experience, but like, nah.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Okay, I've got Okay, that's a profession, that's our professional opinion.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Well, I was trying to think of a trying to
think of one that wouldn't Okay, all.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Right, that is my transition into the next story.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Everything is just going to be tea chamo. Okay? Does that?
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Does that settle?
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Has it been long enough that a shamal could be
the good the one because it's just what comes out
of me, that's right, Sam, this is big. I should
have led with this. Taylor Swift and Travis Kelcey have
broken up.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
I'm just kidding.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Can you imagine, after all, first of all that if
that I wouldn't lead with that a and be after
all that we've been through, after all of us just
feeling bad about our lives every day, somewhat inspired. But
also I didn't be shocked if, like, you know, I
mean they're getting married, you think it's going to be huge. Yeah, haha,
I'll tell you this. I was surprised and I googled it.
(24:12):
I was surprised to find out she's of all these
long term relationships she's had, she's never been engaged before.
H Well, there were rumors that she was engaged to Joe,
but it never became official. They were together over six years,
Joe Alwyn. I think they might have been a little
private engaged. That was his things, privacy, and she didn't
really like that. Obviously that's not her thing. There were
(24:33):
some rumors, so it's I think she might have been,
but that's not for me. That's for her story. That's
that's going to be in the next album. We'll find
out on the next record.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
And also, it couldn't have been a good engagement if
she had to keep it, if she wasn't allowed to
tell anybody.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Well, he was very English, so he just didn't. Yeah,
he didn't love he didn't love the Spotlight. He didn't
love an though he was he didn't love.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
He might have loved Love. He was.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
He helped make that album, The Lover Album, which is
so good. He wrote on that she gave us writing credits. Yeah,
like he and he helped with some of the mews.
He was a musician. I guess it was weird. It
was during COVID, so they just got to work. And
I mean, I don't know if she was just being
nice and supportive by throwing him on there, but I
(25:20):
think he helps. He an actor, He's an actor. He's
been in a lot of stuff. He's really really good looking.
And it just didn't work out. And he's never really
said anything bad about her. He's had a very it's
been a very proper breakup. I think it was hard
on her, but everybody's just she found her guy, and
I really do believe that's her guy, and I think
they're going to be married forever.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Interesting I do. Even though he's a big football player,
I think she is. She does give like just a
regular guy energy. He gives like a little teddy bear.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
And they're on the same page, you know, Like he
really supported her when she came out for Kamala and
he like he's cool.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
I like him.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
I have one hundred percent approve. Okay, now a couple
I don't approve of. Before we go really quick, we
have been talking, uh, we have been talking about I'm
talking a lot about Scott Wolfe. We've done two patreons
and a show about it. So we're not going to
go into the whole thing. Yeah, well a little bit
(26:22):
because we are a little bit obsessed. It's okay, let
you take this one.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Well, you're gonna you're gonna tell us what's going on,
what's going on with it? But I'm going to tell
you this both I think I can speak for both
Cecily and I when I say that, you know, and
probably this is because this business. We're both in a
certain kind of business. It's some people might refer to
as show business mm hmm. But we're both in this
(26:48):
business and we have known over the years and been
for people struggling with their mental health. So for us,
it's definitely this is not We're not coming from a
place of like, oh, mental illness, right, we care about that. Yeah, No,
we totally get it and we're not like, oh God,
that person's crazy, like, but we'd also do recognize because
(27:11):
we've both experienced in our lives people who are struggling
with their mental health, and it's hard when you see that,
and it's hard for the person who's maybe not mentally
ill to like stand up for themselves. Because one of
the things that we both noticed about this story is
that people, a lot of people were coming to her
(27:31):
defense and like, oh, he must be like an awful person,
and you know, he's.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Abusive and all this stuff.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
And we kind of were like, whoa, whoa Hold on
a minute, like, she seems like she's not doing great,
and now it's kind of coming to light that we
were right, which we often are. We always are.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
I think, oh, like a lot of times we are correct,
and she's been struggling for turns out a lot longer,
or this is not brand new behavior. Yeah, I have
I have an on good authority that that's the case.
And I also you don't have to dig far into
her Instagram. So this woman, it's very sad. It's really sad.
It's gotten sadder. I have sort of different feelings on
(28:15):
it because her name is Kelly Wolf. As we said,
she was on the Real World twenty five years ago.
They met on a blind date. I did some digging
on Reddit for you because I know you like you
I do, and I am curious about this. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
They met on a blind date.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Well not blind, he'd seen her, you know, they knew
who each other were and they had a mutual friend
and they were in New York and she was an
hour late to the date and he was getting annoyed
at the bar and was like, I'm going to leave,
you know, and they were like, no, no, no, you
should stay. And then they fell in love and they've
been together. They have three kids. I want to say
one of them might be adopted or something. Someone had
mentioned that, but I'm not sure if that's true. They've
(28:51):
got three kids and they have been married a really,
really long time. She is there a very good looking
couple and something has worked for a long time, although
through the years there've been talk of their separation. But
if you dig into her instagram, even going back a
couple of years, they went to the Critics' Choice Awards.
I was there whenever they were there. There's pictures from
(29:14):
right where I was standing. It's about me. I'm probably
why they broke up. He saw me and was like
I have to have her. But they were there, they
lost she they she kept saying they she he lost
for something, he was up for something and lost, and
so she made a video and she's like, we lost,
but that's okay. We're just in it for the you know,
for the art of it. And she's like, by the way,
(29:36):
she's just staring at herself in the video, like, by
the way, I want to shout out to my makeup artist,
Oh my god, amazing work. First off, we lost, Like
did you produce? Like what are you talking about it?
You know what it reminds me of, like, oh, I
wonder if my if our movie, if my movie is
going to do great. Oh, yes, that's a different story.
(29:58):
We'll hold that for a Patreon again. But so she
has been posting and the heartbreaking one is that she
was she gets limited visitation now with her kids, but
Scott has to be there. So just a few days
ago she posted she recorded the visitation and she's just
off the rails. She's just like what she keeps bringing
(30:18):
out the American flag and throwing it at Scott and
saying like, you never served, you never served this country,
you monster, And he's like, okay, hug your mom. He's
trying so hard to be nice in front of the
kids and she's like, fucking monster, never say my game again.
Then she's trying to hug the kids, and the young
boy has just got a soccer ball and he's you know,
(30:38):
he's going to be the kid that's trying to be
the clown. He's going to be. You know, that's what
I that's what we were the ones like. But look
at this, I can sing Annie while shit's going down
in the family. He's trying to balance the soccer ball
in his head and keeps like, mom, look while she's
melting down, and the daughter is just freezing.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
She's enough freeze.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Why when she.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Is in an episode? Is she allowed to be around
her kids?
Speaker 2 (31:03):
The judge is allowed with Scott being there and his brothers.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
They don't have to be Yeah, he shouldn't have to
try to control her. She's very what do you call it,
antagonistic towards him.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Completely and she and he's scared because you know, they're.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Calling him a pussy. Yes, And here's the other thing.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
She was saying, Okay, bring him around back or like
he's like, they're not going around back where I can't
see them, They're not coming in the house because he's
he I was reading on Reddit. It might be that
he's scared that she would just like get him in
the house and lock all the doors right right and not.
And she's like, he's not getting They're not getting in
the car. They can be right here on the street
where I can see them, you can hug them, you
(31:42):
can talk to them. But I've got to be here.
And that's all on the video. And it's so heartbreaking
for these kids. It's just like unbelievable. And her her
posts are so crazy, like so then this is just here,
I'm going to read you this.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
We didn't read this one. This is just six days ago.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
And since this time she's been a rest and released
by the Way for making threats against her family. She
posts a photo of her son, who's the soccer player,
so cute, and she writes this the next star of
any real team on Earth. She talks about the real
world a lot, you know, twenty five years ago, the
next star of any real team on Earth. If you
(32:19):
want him, you come through me, like she's now talking
to like recruiters. He's like eight nine, she said. But
first Utah County and Deputy Savage, where's the body cam
footage from sundance when I was pulled from rest and
forced into an involuntary hold. Where are my things? Millions
in jewelry, heirlooms, photos, clothing in my wedding ring? Why
(32:40):
do you have heirlooms with you? I was a loyal
local by am my band. Yes, she goes, Why am
I banned Salt Lake behavioral? That's where they put her?
Was I labeled crazy doctor Christopher Knight? I stayed calm,
drug free, meditating, compliant. I walked out bruised but clear.
I was an am, just a mother seeking a divorce,
not a danger. So I ask why was I treated
(33:02):
this way? Why was my voice dismissed? Why was forced used?
These are not attacks, They are my lived in experience
and my questions. I stand in truth, clarity, and light.
Just wait inquiring minds. Then she puts a hashtag inside
a dish. She tags inside Edition People, New York Times,
US Weekly, THEO Vaughn Joe Rogan and hashtags me too,
(33:24):
Park City, Land of Boar.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
I mean, what the fuck?
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Yeah, she knows THEO from the real world, so I
don't know if she's just trying to get But I'm
not gonna talk about this it's really this is truly
just really sad.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
It is terrible and it's crazy that it's able, Like
I'm surprised.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
No one took her thing, like somebody in her family,
even Scott, who on the thing, is like, we love
As they're leaving and she's crying, she's he's taking the
kids because it's too.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Much, He's like, we love you, and she goes, I
don't fucking love you.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
I don't love you, and then she says to the
camera and it's very performative too. She's like she's no
tears are coming out, you know. And then she says
to the camera, she's like, I've tried to divorce this
man a year ago, like okay, then move on. And
it's so crazy. But he's like so kind to her.
He's like, we love we love you, and you can
(34:22):
tell that he's just trying to make sure these kids.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
It's so I'm going to cry just talking about it.
It's so sad. Shamo, yeah, Chamohidi to the double loggy.
That's how we have to end. I'm sorry, that is
how we have to end the show.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
It has to be all three of them or I
have like my OCD really kicks in. I guess it's
like I mean, talk to my therapist. If you want
to shame that, you're shaming mental illness. So I have
to using big.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
You guys are being so ablest right now.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
It's ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
I have to say all of them.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
I have to you guys have to do each one
five times or until it feels right. I'm sorry that
it's snoop, right, Adams, I have.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
To do right. Come pick me up. And it's just
the snippet of each one.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
I understand.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
And then and then Bill.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Cosby, you put the pudding and you throw the pudding
inside the cop What about your woody Allen though you're
not gonna do woody I don't know how to do
a Woody all impression.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
I would if I could.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Oh, okay, all right, listen.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
We love you guys.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
Thank you. Also, if you want to hear some more craziness,
go tune in tomorrow because you're hearing this on Monday, hopefully,
or Tuesday. If you just went to a barbecue or
something on Monday, but on Tuesday, go listen to our
Patreon for board because Susily's about to tell a crazy story.
(35:54):
It's maybe one of the craziest stories we've had in
a long time, and it's kind of hard to talk about.
Oh yeah, go to boord af even if you just
want to pop on and like listen to it and
I get it. Leave but don't leave. Stay ah, stay
all right, all right, bye, thank you bye,
Hello, everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
It is me Cecily Knobler here with my friend Stephanie
Wilder Taylor. Just friends, best friends, romantic set, also sexually
sexual friends, situationship.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
We're in a situationship. A lot of people don't know that.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
A lot of people don't know that. I. Yes, I'm
sort of breaking news here.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
This is Hollywood cringe. We got to bring people in,
let them know what's up. A lot of people are like,
what's going on with the podcast? What's going on with
your relationship? A lot of people ask that, and I'm like, well, yeah,
is it sexual.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Yes. I like to call it now. I like to
make it cute. I call it Polly Molly. I say
we're Polly Molly. I made that up and a lot
of people and then I had to what do you
call it when you trademark? I trademarked it. M hmm.
But I'm fighting with Perez Hilton for it. I have
a story about Perez Hilton in trademarks. Real quick, before
(01:13):
we get into this today. Sure, my friend was the
first person to say amaze balls ah ah. Yes, she
said it. She said it on Facebook, she said it
on Twitter. She nobody else was saying amaze balls. Then
he started saying it, but she hadn't trademarked it, and
she was kind of mad, she my thing, Prez oh,
(01:34):
Prez Hilton. Yeah, sorry, yes, So he started saying it
and she I don't think she tried to sue him,
but she might have tried to say, like, hey, that's
kind of my thing. But you can't just say that's
kind of your thing, right if you haven't done I mean,
what can you do.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
It's sort of like the you know, I always like
to remind people that you were when you were the
first and only person I knew at the time that
said really really and.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
I loved it.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Remember that. I was like, it's so funny when you go.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Really, it's weird.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
And it became the biggest thing ever. But I took
it from Hank, my ex right friend. Well, you took
it from somebody. But I'm saying, like nobody was doing
it back then. It wasn't like you started doing it
and then like a week later, other, No, it was you. You
were the first person I knew you had done it for,
like I want to say, at least a year or two. Yeah,
(02:25):
before I heard anyone else ever say.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
That really really, really, you have to kind of it's
kind of like you say something just be like I
love that shirt, or like I love that lady's shirt.
Really yeah exactly, but yes, what we all know to
be the new really, but you were doing it first.
Thank you for thank you for giving me that. I'm
(02:47):
not going to sue you now. However, our situationship is over.
We still have a friendship and we still have this podcast.
We just don't have that. I just don't want to.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
I don't want to.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Uber over to your house late at night. Do you
want me to before we get into all the stories
we have. Do you want me to just give you?
And we're not going to get into this. I hope
people will just google it, but you need to know.
People need to know that Snoop.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Dogg is so awful.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
I've been seeing this.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
He's upset about a Pixar movie that showed two women
being in love.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Oh he has gone He's gone so fucking far crazy, right, Yeah,
he's really freaking maga And.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Is he maga though? Is he he's not maga? Yeah,
he's just crazy.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
He's like, wow, maga now, and he's very like the
left has an agenda and they're trying to gay up
all our kids, and yeah, there's a great Oh, let
me try to find this because Marlon Wayan's flat back
at him. Oh, I think I saved it on my phone.
(04:00):
I love a clap back, a clap back. Marlon Wayans
was like, oh, hell no.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
A lot of people are saying hell no to that.
I mean a lot of people are standing up. And
I want to remind people while you're looking for that.
Is that not so long ago?
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Maybe five years ago?
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Snoop quoted Lewis ferrikhn In calling Jewish people maggots. That
is our Snoop dog and listen as a jew who
is not a maggot. I don't think I still if
Snoop comes on, yeall tap my toe. It's one of
those ones where I'm like, okay, stop, you got to
stop with that. Though you can not.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
That's okay, We're not going to get into a thing
where we're arguing, but that's basically defending it.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
You can't, you can't. That's a well, I don't care
about his views. I like his music, not that I
know that, but my point is I very much care
about his views. This was coming aimed directly to, you know,
are my people Like I was horrified by his views
and really sad and really sad that a lot of
a lot of people didn't say anything. But I'm saying,
(05:01):
if I'm in the back of an uber and a
song comes on, I'm able to separate those things.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Okay, it is good for you. But you know who's
not able to separate it is Marlon Wayans. And I'm
going to tell you what he said. Basically, this is
this girl that I love following her stuff. She's this
black woman who points out a lot of like racial stuff.
Her name is Mookie the Magnificent. Oh I've yeah, I've
seen her. So she posted this. You know, she's a
(05:26):
little bit famous for she posted this thing.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
This was a long time ago, asking white people to
give us their questions about black people. Yeah, I remember that, Yes, Okay,
So she wrote this, Snoop is trash and there isn't
any defending that he's worried about explaining the existence of
lgbt QIA plus people to his grandchild, but not his harmful,
degrading lyrics or criminal past.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
It isn't surprising at this point. And then she posted
a comment by Marlon Wayans which says, I'm tired of
defending this N word. I defended him on his criminal shit,
the Gail Kings situation, and I took heat for defending
him online when he performed for Trump. But this crosses
the line. Sooner or later, you just realize someone has issues.
(06:16):
There ain't no Hollywood agenda to turn kids gay. That
is the dumbest shit I've ever heard. Disney characters lie, steel,
cheap kill, poison and everything, and don't nobody say it's
an agenda to turn their kids into a piece of shit.
I watched Snow White when I was a kid, and
I ain't give a bitch a poison apple yet, But
as soon as a gay character pops up, it's an agenda.
(06:39):
The agenda is to make your kids empathetic, not gay.
White people acted the same way when black people started
being seen on TV. Marlon Wilson, right, love that, Yes,
I love that.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
You know what we did on Today's Hollywood Cringe. We
learned it, We learned, we opened up. I'm listening, and
I agree with you. I'm not going to pay those people.
I'm not going to like download their music and give
them money, that's for sure. But sometimes you know it's
like Thriller. I always come back to Thriller. I do.
I am not a fan of Michael Jackson. I do
believe that he was extremely horrifically abusive. And it's so hard.
(07:15):
It's the question that I mean, I'm not the only
one that has this thing like Thriller comes on your party.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Point of pointing out, there's no real point of saying, like, yeah,
but I like his music.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
I don't. It's just the fing It's not a point
or not a point, Nope, Like it's just a it's
just a thing that I think a lot of people
can relate to. Like it sucks. It's so hard, Like
it's so there's there's people even in the world is
like I like.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Their shirt, but they're a terrible but I mean, like
just none of those it's not that hard not to
listen to Snoop Dogg's music.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Well I'm not just not. I'm not seeking it out.
But I had that issue with Ryan Adams. That was
my problem. Like I Heartbreaker is one of my favorite
albums ever, and I cannot.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
I don't. I don't seek it. I don't like go
to listen to it first.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
But yeah, I just am like, I know he's not
a good guys, not treated people well, and yet I
still love.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Come pick me up.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
And it's just like maybe it's like just trying to
make sense of it because there's so many people like
that now, there's so many people that's just like, Wow,
I know your biggest issue is how much you love
kid rock, and that's that's just hard on your soul.
I just love dance to kid rock. It just makes
me want to spiral. I just want to dance. Yeah,
and you're like want to wave and yeah, America's ruining
(08:31):
kid rock for me. Anyway, let's move on to another story. Okay,
all right, well this is this is a roller coaster
for me. This is another one that uh so a
couple of days ago. So we obviously broke.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
The news on the show.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
We broke up first, we were the first people to
break the news that Pam Anderson and Liam Neeson were
one hundred percent really in love. I'm just kidding. We
didn't break that story, but we were. We liked the story.
I did have a little some reservations about the fact
that they were like, finally, he's in an age appropriate
relationship when he's fifteen years older, which is fine, but
(09:06):
when he's in seventies, can we not do that?
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Can we not?
Speaker 2 (09:09):
They don't congradulate thy right, Yes, he doesn't get a
day named after him because I mean he's in his
seventies she's in her fifties and it's Pam Anderson.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
And that was making me mad too.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
It's like she's so natural and she's just make up free, care,
no care and the wast like, well, she's not botox
free though, and she's not facelived free. I mean that's
fine if you want to like celebrate the no makeup thing.
I think it's beautiful and I think, yeah, sure, we
don't have to pile ourselves on with Kim Kardashian makeup.
But it's making people that don't look like that feel
(09:40):
bad because maybe they need a little something because they
haven't had all the work done on their face.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Also, do you know how much like lasers are. I
am dying. I want to get a crack so bad,
laser so bad, and it is very like five thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
It's like a friend of mine did it because somebody
was telling me to do it, and then they said okay,
Like package number one would be two thousand.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Yes, yeah, no, it's a lot, and some nups people
it helps them.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
But the what you have to go, what your skin
goes through to get there, I don't know, pretty awful
turn out, like where they just get like all bloodied.
And yes, I would do it though if I could
afford it. Yeah, no it is it is expensive.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
So now, so TMZ just a couple of days ago
came out with in the heartbreaking they said that the
whole Pam Anderson liam Neeson love story was totally faked
by the PR team and the studio to sell tickets
to Naked Gun.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
So everybody's like sitting with that and like I knew it.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
It never seemed real every I mean, you know, thousands
of threads and redit whatever. But now People Magazine today,
so yesterday when you're hearing this, says it was absolutely
not fake to source that quote. Everything between them has
been genuine. Neither would ever take part in a publicity stunt.
We know that. First of all, I saw the thing
(10:56):
with Tommy Lee. I still believe that as a publicity stunt.
But okay, go on, I mean, you know, okay.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Also probably and I don't I don't know, what we've
learned since then, but probably they were so horrified by
the bat There was probably backlash to the fact that
it was a publicity stunt and people were like, well,
fuck off, We're going to not go see your movie
because of that, because that's gross. And then they were
like no, no, no, kidding again, Ah, just kidding again.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Sure. I mean so so many people are like yeah,
like no, they're I mean, they're one hundred percent together.
But even if it was a publicity stunt, it would
have I was sad about it because I really.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Wanted these two people to be together.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
They really seemed genuine They were so funny together in
the movie, and they seemed genuinely good together. So that
bummed me out. But I wasn't like mad like few jerks,
because it actually kind of supports the movie. You know,
the movie's so silly. It wouldn't be that big of
a deal. It'd be like, oh, okay, I fell for
a thing. Glad people saw it, even if it was
because of that. But I don't think people went to
(12:00):
go see it because they were like in love. You
don't think people or.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Would go see the movie because they're like, oh, I
want to see if they really have chemistry. I guess
some people did.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Yeah, I mean I feel like the people that want
to see naked gun was they were going to see it.
But maybe, yeah, maybe there's a few of those. But
I can't imagine. Be like, I want my money back,
I must have because okay, you know where I got mad.
I got mad at the exact same thing, but it
was with Gaga Bradley Cooper because when they were trying.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Yeah, those idiots were too And I say idiots. I
like Lady Gaga a lot. I like them both, but
they were pushing it so hard.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
It was like, first off, I know they're not together,
she has like a boyfriend. This is so stupid, it's
so dumb. But they really staring in each other's eyes
at the Grammys. Stuff looked like they were going to kiss.
Remember that, Yes, and it was, and they held the
camera on it for so long and I was like,
that's insulting to our intelligence. Yes, I mean, he would
(12:58):
never date someone as oldest Lady Gaga, even though he's
older and Gaga can do better. I mean, look, come
on now, I'm very team Gaga on everything.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Really, did she have a boyfriend at the time? I
think she did or he had.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
No, he was married and that was part of the
that was part of the thing in her life front. No, yeah,
it looks like but his long time. I mean it
was like a big deal. Yes, wasn't it wasn't her
name like Camilla or something? Or is that?
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Am I thinking of Matthew McConaughey, you guys don't come
here for the accuracy.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
That's all I'm saying. He was with like this Russian
model that's like his I think his arena. Is he
still with her? Yeah? I think no, No, No, he's
now with Jihadid. Oh now, let me let me remind
you they've been together a while. He's in his fifties,
she's and I still leave her twenties.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
No. I would just.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Love it if we gang up on Jen Aniston for
dating a life coach hypnotist.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
But I asked her.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
I said, please stop dating a list movie stars, and
she's like, Okay, I'll date this hypnotist, right, So I
have to give her that I have. If I have
to give her something, it's that. So anyway, we don't
know for sure if Pam and Liam are together, but
People magazine says no, that part was a lie. TMZ
is wrong. They are totally in love, don't you worry.
(14:16):
I don't know that we care that much, but I
kind of like that story. Okay, I'm gonna move on.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Our country is just falling apart, but we're all we're
just like, we don't have democracy, but we can all
sleep tonight because Pam and Liam are together.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Okay, right, he did the double og. I say that,
and you're like, God, you did not have to say
d to the double og. That's Stephanie. You know that's
my palette cleanser. In between stories, I have to say,
like a rap lyric. It doesn't matter. That's just the
one that came to mind.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
They're like, it's kind of your fault for reminding me about.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
How much I love him.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
I wasn't even thinking about him. Although, yeah, no, what
a tool. Okay, So this one's interesting.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Taylor Swift's well kind of nemesis Scooter bra Well, that
is one of her nemesi, Scooter Braun, for sure. He's
the exact record exact who would not let her record
her own her own music, so she had right Tler's versions.
We all know who Scooter is. He's in trouble with
a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
So this video is also the the oh no I'm
thinking of I'm thinking of a Lou Pearlman. Oh yeah,
Lou Pearlman.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Oh god no.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Scooter's young was also the one that.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
He was a Justin Bieber guy and Justin stayed with
him for a long time till he didn't right. Right,
he's like a good looking guy in his forties. He
is not he is no Lou Pearlman.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Wasn't he was?
Speaker 2 (15:39):
He the one that was also uh Kesha that was
thinking of Luke doctor Luke.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Okay, I love that I know all the record like
the record label guys.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
I don't know why I meant that guy was a
bad dude for sure, right, And it's interesting that you
bring up because Katie Perry then did after Kesha said,
like this guy like raped me. You know, she actually
assaulted me. Katy Perry then did music with him. Are
our friend Katie yep?
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Oh, I don't like Katy Perry and not no, no, no.
Katy Perry is so terrible.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
She's the fucking worst. She's in a lawsuit right now
with veterans trying to take the house down. First of
those nuns. Now it's she's just like really vile. Yeah,
and that comes back around actually because so Scooter, this
resurface video from stupid Jeff Bezos's wedding, which I can't
believe we're still talking about. And I also can't believe
that why did Jeff Bezos have these randos at his wedding?
Speaker 1 (16:38):
What kind of wedding is this? That Scooter Braun is there?
Speaker 2 (16:40):
I mean, okay, I get it, that guy's like some
rich millionaire, but why was Sydney Sweeney there? She's not
that famous, Like that's crazy? What kind of bullshit is this?
So this videos resurface of Scooter Braun kind of looking
maybe romantic on a stroll with Sydney Sweeney. But the
weird thing is that Sydney was also kind of looking
romantic with Tom Brady.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
I get that.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
And then Orlando Bloom, who had non officially split from
Katie but they were still they had not announced their
splits yet, so people were like, what's Orlando Bloom doing
alone at this wedding? And that's when remember Katie had
been shot off into space, yes, and then wasn't at
the wedding, which is also really weird. She was doing,
she was working or something as like, oh please, she
(17:24):
would have known when the wedding was ahead of time
and would have like not had a concert that night. Yes,
if anybody wanted to be at that disgusting wedding, it
was Archakie.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Yes, it was our Katie.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
So that's interesting that, like everybody's been spotted with Sydney Sweeney.
Maybe that was a pr thing like Okay, i'll take
a stroll with you, and at four o'clock, I'll take
a stroll with you. We'll hold hands in a way,
if she was trolling, that's kind of funny, kind of hilarious,
really staying. But what a douchey wedding. Oh my god,
so tacky.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
The dress was so tame.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
I mean, you have billions of dollars literally, and that's
the dress. Get it together, Learn something from George Clooney
in a mall is more shill out all right?
Speaker 1 (18:08):
For one second, I thought you said learn something from
George Clooney and a mall like a mall, like a
like a mall, and get and get your dress a
contempo casuals people, Yes, go to Limited too.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
They have just as cute dresses as you're going to
get any cuture wedding gown dress. Okay, you're not gonna
like this. But I have to do a public cleanse.
I have to palot cleans. Okay, we think of something
else besides Snoop. I A'm saying, she a gold digger. Okay,
should have done Kanye now shit, Okay, now, but I
(18:45):
have to do something.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
And that's just what's coming to mind.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
This is going to be the death of our podcast. Okay, God,
believe me, believe you me, I hear you, and I
agree with you.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
But many people are conflicted.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
It's not that they're conflicted that they want those people
to be successful or that they want to give them
money or go to their concert. But it's hard. After
many years gold it's hard. I'm sorry, it's hard. Let's
move on to the next thing. Blake Lively, who is
still happening? What comes now? There's even worse people involved. So,
so Blake was very upset when she's putting together. They're
(19:22):
doing their discovery right, so they have to get all
these witnesses and comments from people and subpoena all these
people to talk. And now so Blake is throwing in
I guess allegedly Megan Kelly. Because Megan Kelly, who we
also don't like, you do I know you love her
for her strength, you said, her wisdom and her strength.
I'm like, I think she's pretty awful. But she talked
(19:42):
a lot of shit about this as we did, as
we all did. She's she's reported on it on her
podcast constantly, and she does not like Blake Lively. So
now Blake is throwing her into like the what do
you call it? This smear campaign? So she she apparently
got subpoenaed, but Blake's side says it's not true that
they did not subpoena'm Megan Kelly. So Meghan went on
(20:04):
her podcast and said that quote Blake is a narcissistic bully.
She said, because Blake was, Blake Lively was unable to
fathom that yours truly meaning Meghan, had developed a genuine
repulsion toward her. On her own, she posited that I
is that right that I must have been ensnared in
(20:25):
Justin's alleged smear campaign. That is a lot to unpack.
Let's try to unpack this, say, let's do it. Well,
Megan Kelly is a horrible person. Yeah, well, yes, so
we hate none of these people are great. Yeah, so
there's no heroes in this story at all. But I
just just to explain what's happening is just that, so
Blake is going after she's allegedly she's saying she's not,
(20:47):
but she allegedly was going after Megan Kelly for talking
shit about her and siding with Justin, and Megan's coming
out and going, girl, I didn't need to do anything
to side. I already didn't like you. Justin didn't do
anything to make me not like you. I don't like you.
That's what she's trying to say. Meanwhile, Justin where's He's
probably on a yacht somewhere. He seems like the type
of guy that just went on like some South American
(21:08):
ayahuasca retreat after this, and it's just fine.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
He's fine. He's probably like there's still a lawsuit, silly.
He's got to be fine now that.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Like he knows that the public opinion is on his side,
right well, even when the opinion seems to change every
now and then, the opinion seems to shift back to
Blake lively because you know her team will do something,
or somebody on TikTok will do something, but then it
always goes back.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
People just don't I think there. I think that people,
especially right now, this is I'm gonna pause it like
a theory. The thing that really fucks her up is
the Taylor Swift of it all. And I think that
that Taylor Swift and she don't seem to be friends
anymore is making people automatically.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Team Justin. What do you think about that? Totally? But
I think that they had already turned before the Taylor
Swift of it all. I think that they already too
much came out about her, many too much proof. You
don't have a lot of stuff on every video they
tried to put out about Justin on Blake's side, didn't
really make him look that bad. They don't have video
of him being I mean, I'm not entirely sure he
(22:18):
wasn't inappropriate at times, or do she or whatever, But
she doesn't really have proof. But they've got proof on her. Yeah,
they they did a shady thing by like kind of
getting a campaign against her.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
They did do that, but they always do that.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
She knows it's nothing new, and that's crazy and it's
like that's not on the PR team to make her
look like a total coups in these interviews towards journalists.
They can't make that they're not splicing it together. And
as I've said many times, when she comes up, I
have a friend that knows that family very well and
said that Blake was horrific and said this years ago,
(22:54):
way before any of this happened. But she was just
filed mean to the help. One of those kind of
people like sorry, I don't know from personal experience, but like, nah.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Okay, I've got Okay, that's a profession, that's our professional opinion.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Well, I was trying to think of a trying to
think of one that wouldn't Okay, all.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Right, that is my transition into the next story.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Everything is just going to be tea chamo. Okay? Does that?
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Does that settle?
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Has it been long enough that a shamal could be
the good the one because it's just what comes out
of me, that's right, Sam, this is big. I should
have led with this. Taylor Swift and Travis Kelcey have
broken up.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
I'm just kidding.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Can you imagine, after all, first of all that if
that I wouldn't lead with that a and be after
all that we've been through, after all of us just
feeling bad about our lives every day, somewhat inspired. But
also I didn't be shocked if, like, you know, I
mean they're getting married, you think it's going to be huge. Yeah, haha,
I'll tell you this. I was surprised and I googled it.
(24:12):
I was surprised to find out she's of all these
long term relationships she's had, she's never been engaged before.
H Well, there were rumors that she was engaged to Joe,
but it never became official. They were together over six years,
Joe Alwyn. I think they might have been a little
private engaged. That was his things, privacy, and she didn't
really like that. Obviously that's not her thing. There were
(24:33):
some rumors, so it's I think she might have been,
but that's not for me. That's for her story. That's
that's going to be in the next album. We'll find
out on the next record.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
And also, it couldn't have been a good engagement if
she had to keep it, if she wasn't allowed to
tell anybody.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Well, he was very English, so he just didn't. Yeah,
he didn't love he didn't love the Spotlight. He didn't
love an though he was he didn't love.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
He might have loved Love. He was.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
He helped make that album, The Lover Album, which is
so good. He wrote on that she gave us writing credits. Yeah,
like he and he helped with some of the mews.
He was a musician. I guess it was weird. It
was during COVID, so they just got to work. And
I mean, I don't know if she was just being
nice and supportive by throwing him on there, but I
(25:20):
think he helps. He an actor, He's an actor. He's
been in a lot of stuff. He's really really good looking.
And it just didn't work out. And he's never really
said anything bad about her. He's had a very it's
been a very proper breakup. I think it was hard
on her, but everybody's just she found her guy, and
I really do believe that's her guy, and I think
they're going to be married forever.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Interesting I do. Even though he's a big football player,
I think she is. She does give like just a
regular guy energy. He gives like a little teddy bear.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
And they're on the same page, you know, Like he
really supported her when she came out for Kamala and
he like he's cool.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
I like him.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
I have one hundred percent approve. Okay, now a couple
I don't approve of. Before we go really quick, we
have been talking, uh, we have been talking about I'm
talking a lot about Scott Wolfe. We've done two patreons
and a show about it. So we're not going to
go into the whole thing. Yeah, well a little bit
(26:22):
because we are a little bit obsessed. It's okay, let
you take this one.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Well, you're gonna you're gonna tell us what's going on,
what's going on with it? But I'm going to tell
you this both I think I can speak for both
Cecily and I when I say that, you know, and
probably this is because this business. We're both in a
certain kind of business. It's some people might refer to
as show business mm hmm. But we're both in this
(26:48):
business and we have known over the years and been
for people struggling with their mental health. So for us,
it's definitely this is not We're not coming from a
place of like, oh, mental illness, right, we care about that. Yeah, No,
we totally get it and we're not like, oh God,
that person's crazy, like, but we'd also do recognize because
(27:11):
we've both experienced in our lives people who are struggling
with their mental health, and it's hard when you see that,
and it's hard for the person who's maybe not mentally
ill to like stand up for themselves. Because one of
the things that we both noticed about this story is
that people, a lot of people were coming to her
(27:31):
defense and like, oh, he must be like an awful person,
and you know, he's.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Abusive and all this stuff.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
And we kind of were like, whoa, whoa Hold on
a minute, like, she seems like she's not doing great,
and now it's kind of coming to light that we
were right, which we often are. We always are.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
I think, oh, like a lot of times we are correct,
and she's been struggling for turns out a lot longer,
or this is not brand new behavior. Yeah, I have
I have an on good authority that that's the case.
And I also you don't have to dig far into
her Instagram. So this woman, it's very sad. It's really sad.
It's gotten sadder. I have sort of different feelings on
(28:15):
it because her name is Kelly Wolf. As we said,
she was on the Real World twenty five years ago.
They met on a blind date. I did some digging
on Reddit for you because I know you like you
I do, and I am curious about this. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
They met on a blind date.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Well not blind, he'd seen her, you know, they knew
who each other were and they had a mutual friend
and they were in New York and she was an
hour late to the date and he was getting annoyed
at the bar and was like, I'm going to leave,
you know, and they were like, no, no, no, you
should stay. And then they fell in love and they've
been together. They have three kids. I want to say
one of them might be adopted or something. Someone had
mentioned that, but I'm not sure if that's true. They've
(28:51):
got three kids and they have been married a really,
really long time. She is there a very good looking
couple and something has worked for a long time, although
through the years there've been talk of their separation. But
if you dig into her instagram, even going back a
couple of years, they went to the Critics' Choice Awards.
I was there whenever they were there. There's pictures from
(29:14):
right where I was standing. It's about me. I'm probably
why they broke up. He saw me and was like
I have to have her. But they were there, they
lost she they she kept saying they she he lost
for something, he was up for something and lost, and
so she made a video and she's like, we lost,
but that's okay. We're just in it for the you know,
for the art of it. And she's like, by the way,
(29:36):
she's just staring at herself in the video, like, by
the way, I want to shout out to my makeup artist,
Oh my god, amazing work. First off, we lost, Like
did you produce? Like what are you talking about it?
You know what it reminds me of, like, oh, I
wonder if my if our movie, if my movie is
going to do great. Oh, yes, that's a different story.
(29:58):
We'll hold that for a Patreon again. But so she
has been posting and the heartbreaking one is that she
was she gets limited visitation now with her kids, but
Scott has to be there. So just a few days
ago she posted she recorded the visitation and she's just
off the rails. She's just like what she keeps bringing
(30:18):
out the American flag and throwing it at Scott and
saying like, you never served, you never served this country,
you monster, And he's like, okay, hug your mom. He's
trying so hard to be nice in front of the
kids and she's like, fucking monster, never say my game again.
Then she's trying to hug the kids, and the young
boy has just got a soccer ball and he's you know,
(30:38):
he's going to be the kid that's trying to be
the clown. He's going to be. You know, that's what
I that's what we were the ones like. But look
at this, I can sing Annie while shit's going down
in the family. He's trying to balance the soccer ball
in his head and keeps like, mom, look while she's
melting down, and the daughter is just freezing.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
She's enough freeze.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Why when she.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Is in an episode? Is she allowed to be around
her kids?
Speaker 2 (31:03):
The judge is allowed with Scott being there and his brothers.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
They don't have to be Yeah, he shouldn't have to
try to control her. She's very what do you call it,
antagonistic towards him.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Completely and she and he's scared because you know, they're.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Calling him a pussy. Yes, And here's the other thing.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
She was saying, Okay, bring him around back or like
he's like, they're not going around back where I can't
see them, They're not coming in the house because he's
he I was reading on Reddit. It might be that
he's scared that she would just like get him in
the house and lock all the doors right right and not.
And she's like, he's not getting They're not getting in
the car. They can be right here on the street
where I can see them, you can hug them, you
(31:42):
can talk to them. But I've got to be here.
And that's all on the video. And it's so heartbreaking
for these kids. It's just like unbelievable. And her her
posts are so crazy, like so then this is just here,
I'm going to read you this.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
We didn't read this one. This is just six days ago.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
And since this time she's been a rest and released
by the Way for making threats against her family. She
posts a photo of her son, who's the soccer player,
so cute, and she writes this the next star of
any real team on Earth. She talks about the real
world a lot, you know, twenty five years ago, the
next star of any real team on Earth. If you
(32:19):
want him, you come through me, like she's now talking
to like recruiters. He's like eight nine, she said. But
first Utah County and Deputy Savage, where's the body cam
footage from sundance when I was pulled from rest and
forced into an involuntary hold. Where are my things? Millions
in jewelry, heirlooms, photos, clothing in my wedding ring? Why
(32:40):
do you have heirlooms with you? I was a loyal
local by am my band. Yes, she goes, Why am
I banned Salt Lake behavioral? That's where they put her?
Was I labeled crazy doctor Christopher Knight? I stayed calm,
drug free, meditating, compliant. I walked out bruised but clear.
I was an am, just a mother seeking a divorce,
not a danger. So I ask why was I treated
(33:02):
this way? Why was my voice dismissed? Why was forced used?
These are not attacks, They are my lived in experience
and my questions. I stand in truth, clarity, and light.
Just wait inquiring minds. Then she puts a hashtag inside
a dish. She tags inside Edition People, New York Times,
US Weekly, THEO Vaughn Joe Rogan and hashtags me too,
(33:24):
Park City, Land of Boar.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
I mean, what the fuck?
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Yeah, she knows THEO from the real world, so I
don't know if she's just trying to get But I'm
not gonna talk about this it's really this is truly
just really sad.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
It is terrible and it's crazy that it's able, Like
I'm surprised.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
No one took her thing, like somebody in her family,
even Scott, who on the thing, is like, we love
As they're leaving and she's crying, she's he's taking the
kids because it's too.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Much, He's like, we love you, and she goes, I
don't fucking love you.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
I don't love you, and then she says to the
camera and it's very performative too. She's like she's no
tears are coming out, you know. And then she says
to the camera, she's like, I've tried to divorce this
man a year ago, like okay, then move on. And
it's so crazy. But he's like so kind to her.
He's like, we love we love you, and you can
(34:22):
tell that he's just trying to make sure these kids.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
It's so I'm going to cry just talking about it.
It's so sad. Shamo, yeah, Chamohidi to the double loggy.
That's how we have to end. I'm sorry, that is
how we have to end the show.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
It has to be all three of them or I
have like my OCD really kicks in. I guess it's
like I mean, talk to my therapist. If you want
to shame that, you're shaming mental illness. So I have
to using big.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
You guys are being so ablest right now.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
It's ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
I have to say all of them.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
I have to you guys have to do each one
five times or until it feels right. I'm sorry that
it's snoop, right, Adams, I have.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
To do right. Come pick me up. And it's just
the snippet of each one.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
I understand.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
And then and then Bill.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Cosby, you put the pudding and you throw the pudding
inside the cop What about your woody Allen though you're
not gonna do woody I don't know how to do
a Woody all impression.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
I would if I could.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Oh, okay, all right, listen.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
We love you guys.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
Thank you. Also, if you want to hear some more craziness,
go tune in tomorrow because you're hearing this on Monday, hopefully,
or Tuesday. If you just went to a barbecue or
something on Monday, but on Tuesday, go listen to our
Patreon for board because Susily's about to tell a crazy story.
(35:54):
It's maybe one of the craziest stories we've had in
a long time, and it's kind of hard to talk about.
Oh yeah, go to boord af even if you just
want to pop on and like listen to it and
I get it. Leave but don't leave. Stay ah, stay
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