The Jimmy Darts Podcast

Jimmy Darts, a notable content creator known for his random acts of kindness. His actions serve as motivation and inspiration to many. The discussion explores how to be generous and the impact of generous people on social media.

Episode Transcript

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Jimmy darts, Jimmy darts, Jimmy darts.
This is Jimmy darts. Have you gotten any similar hate
towards your video? What do you say to people who
are like this kids? Completely nuts.
Oh, I say, well, you're probablyright.
I'm like, God, how can I do these videos but not make it
about like, hey, it's me Jimmy and I'm gonna give away this
car. Do this.

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Like guys, we are headed right now to Palmdale.
Been driving for two hours to surprise Maria.
We're surprising with over $50,000.
Your approach in and asking for help and then turning around and
blessing the person has in a waykind of became a trend for other
creators. Free MacBook is it real?
Yeah, this is it's real. It's it's still an open.

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It's huge now. Yeah.
There's like tons of creators that how.
Does that? How does that make you feel?
Yeah, I mean it's, it's good. And at the same time I would say
like. Bruce LON.
All right, ladies and gentlemen,today's guest, the one the only,
the iconic Jimmy Darts. Hey, thanks for having me, man.
It's a it's a honor to be here. And yeah, man, so, so stoked on

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everything you've been doing. So it's just, it's just cool to
be in this room. I've seen so many other people
sit in this chair. So it's it's an honor to be
here. Man, dude, it's an honor to talk
to you, man. You've been doing really cool
stuff on the Internet for a verylong time with regards to just
Undercover Kindness, which is the name of your new book, and
we're going to talk about that. I want to hear more of your
origin story, but this video is going crazy and it's you

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blessing a pastor that was living out of his car and this
just went up. People been sending it to me and
I was like, dude, it's so funny.People were sending me this and
you're about to come in. So is there anything about this?
I want to react to this with you.
Yeah. And then it it.
Before we start reacting to it though, is there anything about
the back story of this that we need to know?
Yeah, bro, there is man. The back story on this, it goes

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back months. So essentially I, I always am
just driving around finding random people to bless for
videos. And I was in this part of Long
Beach and I go into this grocerystore with my wife and we're
leaving and we were going to head home for the day.
And you know, those people outside of grocery stores,
they're like either trying to sign you up to like donate an
animal or like, you know, some program.

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They're always like outside the grocery, they try to like, you
know, gang up on you and like sell you something.
And so we're leaving, walk into our car and I'm like ignoring
the people that are doing that, just kind of like, ah, man, like
we got it. We got to get home.
And I'm like, man, I feel like, I feel like the Lord's like the,
the one kid selling stuff or whatever.
He was just like, go pour into him.
So I go back there, start talking to this kid for a while,

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just ministering to him, encouraging him like the purest
kid ever. And what?
Was he? What was he selling?
I just what was it? It was like, yeah.
OK, interesting. Yeah, adopt animals or something
like that. And so anyways, that was months
ago and I didn't think anything of it.
But last week I got in contact with the kid again and he was
like, yo, bro, if you're ever trying to do a video, there's a

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pastor that he bounces around, but he's been in the parking lot
of our grocery store for a while.
And if you, you know, try to come up on him and see if you
can help him out or whatever, but it could, it could be pretty
crazy. And so I get the address of
this, a grocery store, go to this parking lot.
And I'm like, man, I see the guy, he's living in his car with
his wife, one year old. I walk up to him and I was going

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to say like, hey, man, I'm having a really hard day.
Like could I have a hug? Could I have some money to get
on the bus out of town? Like, could you help me out?
And as soon as I'm about to ask him for help, he goes, I know
who you are. And I'm like, Dang it, this is
the worst. Like, I wanted to change this
man's life. Yeah.
But I'm like, I can't, you know,make a video and can't really
help this guy because he knows who I am.
But then it just, he starts weeping.

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He's on the ground. And he goes, yeah, the the Lord
told me that I felt like I was going to meet you one of these
days, but I was going to be honest with you.
I wasn't going to act like I didn't know you.
I was going to tell you the truth.
And then I started thinking, I'mlike, wait, this could be like
an honesty test. This dude just passed and so
sure enough man, yeah, blessed him, made the video and it's
been up for 23 hours only and he's he's at like 270 some $1000

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wow. And he's go fund me so.
Come on. OK, let's look at this together.
This is this is so dope, dude. OK, so so he comes out of his
car and this is his first reaction.
So that's like that's like 5 minutes in.
And then after that I, I, I showthe first when he opens his
card. That was just like, let me see
if I can. Let me see if I can refresh it.

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Hold on. So I started with that.
OK, gotcha, Gotcha. Gotcha.
OK. Thank you Jesus.
I'm having a horrible day man. Makita, come here, brother.
I know God is real. I'm not going to lie.
I know who you are. Really.
Hey, man. Who go Peter.
What's happening? Peter.

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Who is it? What's the problem with that?
Thank you. Jesus, thank you, Jesus.
Wow, that's powerful man. So he do you think he spoke to
the guy who you talked to and knew that you kind?
Of Oh no, he had no idea. Yeah, he had no idea.
Just. He just sensed in his spirit
that he was going to meet you atsome point.
Yeah, because he had been watching my videos and that's
how he knew who I was. And he knew I was kind of in

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the, you know, SoCal area. And so I think he was just like,
God's like, man, if you ever runinto to this guy, because I roam
the streets like literally all day long, you know, I'm, I'm at
like 5 Walmarts a day mostly, you know, And so he's probably,
man, if I ever do run into this guy, just I can't play and be
like, Yo, I don't know him. I got to say the truth.
And sure enough, man, God blessed him for being honest.

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And yeah, this morning we got tosurprise him and his wife.
And it was crazy, man. Like, I feel like I need to go
take a nap for a week. It was a very intense experience
to see you know someone experience that you know, let.
Me play some. Thank you, Jesus.
Thank you, Lord. I know you're real.
Jesus. Oh my gosh.

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Oh my God. What's been going on?
Man, what's your name? Because he kept leading me to
your video. He kept leading me to your
video. He can't meet him.
And I said if you see him, I'm going to tell him.

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I know I'm going to be honest. I'm a pastor.
Where do you live? In this car for two years with
my wife, our dog Genesis and ourone year old Makayla.
God cares about you. Man, that's heavy.
So, So what are you thinking at this point?
Like, because, because this is clearly a moment for him, but
what, what are you processing? What are you out of?

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Because you've been in some situations that are pretty wild
and intense and emotional, but what are you thinking at this
moment? I mean, I'm just like, man, this
guy just, you could just tell that he's a pure wholesome guy.
He's not on drugs, he's not on alcohol, like his honesty.
So I'm just like, man, I'm goingto hang around and just hear his
story a little bit. And I'm like, I'm I at least
have $1000 in my pocket. I'm going to give him and I'm

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going to upload the video and hopefully people will donate to
him. But if they're like, if he knows
who I am, it was not necessarilylike any kindness tests.
I'm like maybe $5000 will come in, but that'll still help him
out. But sure enough, people like his
honesty. The fact he told you the truth
is crazy. And so I'm like, bro, this is
insane. This dude's got like over a
quarter, $1,000,000 in in a few days, you know?

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And so, yeah, I mean, there's more, so much more to the video
than this, but just his heart for the Lord was truly
incredible. And he was, he wasn't like down
and out in his situation, livingin a broken down car.
Like him and his wife were glowing.
And we're like, we've been able to minister so much.
He, he said to me, he said just a couple other nights there was
a girl doing a Instacart late atnight in the parking lot here.

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She was picking up food. And he just like broke his heart
that a lady would be out that late alone in a kind of rough
part of town doing that. And so he went up to her and
blessed her with like, I was probably the last $100 he had or
something because the Lord put that on his heart.
And then sure enough, this happened.
So I think it's just a message for all of us watching that.
Like if you can, you know, it's easy to be happy when things are

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going great, but if you can maintain joy and godliness in
the midst of struggle, like heaven sees that and goes, OK, I
can land increase here. Let me play a bit more of this.
Provide for you, take care of you because you were honest,
man. I got $1000 for you.

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That's amazing, man. That's, that's incredible.
So man, there's so many layers to this.
And and you did a Part 2 is a Part 2.
Episode yeah, that I just recorded that this morning, so
it'll be out in a couple days. OK, so, so, so tell me like when
you're doing this sort of stuff,what is how often are you coming
across folks like this, like folks that like love Jesus and

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it just like down on their luck.And this is just like a rough
patch for them versus folks who are struggling with some sort of
mental health issues, strugglingwith some sort of substance
abuse. And, and, and yeah, like how,
how would you break down? How, how often do you see just
wholesome good folks that are just, man, they're just in a
rough season. Yeah, honestly, most of the

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time, I've obviously been doing this for a long time, probably
like five years or more, you know, So I've kind of got pretty
good discernment to go up to people.
And I can tell, you know, like, as much as I'd want to help out
every single homeless person on the street, the truth is
sometimes you just can't becauselike you said, there's a lot of
other issues going on. And so try to just honestly go
in places where people are struggling, where people are,

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you know, at a laundromat, that would mean that they don't have
a washer and dryer at home. So right there, you know, people
are going to be in a tough spot.But yeah, like so many people
have a real measure of God in their life, you know, and my job
is to when I come in there and, and kind of this miracle happens
for them is to grow deeper with that with them.
So to encourage them in the Lord, tell them, hey, you can

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thank me all you want. Like, sure, you know, you know,
follow my videos if you want whatever.
But understand, I'm just this random kid.
God's the one who led me to you.He's the one who cares about
you. He's the one who knows your
story. And so, yeah, man, honestly, I
think so many people, you know, have some level of God in their
life. The key is really just, you

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know, getting them to take that journey deeper to actually know
Jesus personally. But yeah, he's already, he's
already made another 10,000 since we've been sitting here.
Let's go, man. Yeah, it says get Pastor Will's
family off the streets already raised.
He was just trying to raise 50K and it's just 280, $5000 that's.

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Incredible, man. Yeah, I told him I was like,
bro, we got to hook you up with a financial advisor.
Like if you, if you play this right, you know, invest this
right, like your family's going to be set for a while.
And how many of these would you say you put up, let's say a
month, How many of these kind offundraisers do you get up for
people? Man, honestly, I don't know.

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It's it's just kind of varies probably like, you know, four or
five fundraisers a month I put up.
Yeah, I had no idea. I, like I said, I just been
having a blast doing this for fun.
And then GoFundMe reached out tome a couple of months ago and
they're like, can we send you a plaque in the mail?
I'm like, yeah, sure. And they're like, yeah, we just
want to let you know that you'veraised more money on GoFundMe
than any individual ever has andhave more different people

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donating than ever. So to me, that's kind of the
coolest thing is not that I knowsome super rich dude who just
wires and pays for this stuff, that it's like around like 7080
thousand different people have donated to these Gofundmes.
And probably a large percent of them don't know the Lord.
But because we're all made in the image of God, like that

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innate nature in US, like, yeah,we're born into sin, but we also
have that innate nature in us tolike love people and it makes us
come alive. And when people explore that
more, they'll find Jesus. But in a way, I think so many
people that don't believe in himgive, and really what they're
doing is they're finding what they were born for.
Yeah. What can you tell us a little
bit about Pastor Will's back story?

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Like I'm assuming that some of that will be explored in Part 2
of the video or like, yeah, what's it?
What's his back story? Yeah, yeah.
His back story, Yeah, it's kind of all over the place.
The last two years him and his wife have been in this
situation, he said. He lost his house, got let go
from a job, and that was in likesomewhere on the East Coast.

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So they just came over here. But they've literally just been
ministering the gospel out of their car.
And their car recently broke down, had like a flat tire and
stuff. But yeah, he just, he feels
called to like full time ministry now and just to spread
the gospel in places that peopledon't normally go.
So parking lot shops everywhere.And so, yeah, man, he just

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thought he was an awesome guy. He had a history with, yeah,
working in like banking and stuff like that.
But but yeah, it's pretty, pretty wild.
Yeah. You know, it's interesting you
think about the data on Americans in terms of the
opportunity that we have access to, but then also the reality of
like how hard it's getting for alot of people to live with
inflation and cost of living andall that sort of stuff where,

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you know, the average person is living paycheck to paycheck.
The average person can't afford a $500 expense, you know, like
that's, that's that's what the data shows.
So I think people can look at someone like this, but but
forget that like, man, you're a month or two away of being in a
similar situation, if not for the grace of God.
And that the like seeing these sorts of stories, I think should

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hopefully provide some humility in all of us, but also empower
us to like do the good with whatwe do have.
You know, it's a usher in goodness and beauty in the way
we can. So it's so powerful to see you
just raise a community of peopleto be a blessing.
Yeah, man, it's, it's it's wild.And yeah, like you said, it's
crazy the just from college tuition payments people have to

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make to car payments, the interest, it just overwhelms
people. And it's not they never educate
you in any of this, you know. And so like I always knew ever
since I got out of high school, never get in debt.
That was always the thing. My dad was super like Dave
Ramsey. And so that's kind of giving me
the freedom to be able to go around and make these videos and
stuff because when I wanted to pursue my dreams and chase

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making videos, helping people, Ihad the freedom to because I had
no debt. So I could travel around in my
little car and, you know, give away all the money I had and do
these kind of things. So, yeah, I think like, you
know, and yeah, I know I got my book here, but just on your
book, you know, like godly ambition, just I've, I've seen
what that's about and stuff. And it's so true.

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And I think that the call of Godis on so many people's lives in
different ways. But the thing that really
hinders them is if they're in these overwhelming financial
situations, they can't even begin to think creatively.
You can't even even begin to like really like try to do a
side hustle or your dream or whatever because it's so
overwhelming. And so I think one of the, the
foundational pieces, get your finances in order.

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And then from there, you know you can do so much more.
Yeah, that's good. As a nice little little plug you
did for my book, you got the Ambition available for for sale
now. I think it's spot on, man.
I think, I think in my book, I share the journey of like me and
my wife, you know, we both come from poverty, both come from
single parent households struggling.
And then when we got married, like we were, we were in debt

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almost 100 grand total, technically 100 grand in debt.
And that's when we discovered Dave Ramsey.
And so this is 2000. We got married in 2008.
We got serious about getting outof debt in 2010 and so we
started like the end of 2010 andwe were completely debt free by
the middle of 2012. So within 18 months, just before
I was doing YouTube, before I was doing music really

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professionally, we were able to knock out a lot of debt by just
putting our head down, listeningto Dave Ramsey everyday, getting
on a budget. And it completely revolutionized
our lives. But but you're right in that
what we discovered is, man, if we can decrease our overhead
because we don't have student loans, we don't have car
payments, we don't have credit card payments, we decreased our
overhead, then we increased our savings and we got six months of

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savings in the bank that unlocked the ability to take
creative risk. First, I just went into ministry
full time for two years and thenfrom there I was able to
transition into music full time in 2015.
But it was exactly because what you described, because I just, I
knew that at the end of the day,I think I mean, back back then,
we were, we were very, very, very, very simple and very

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frugal. Our overhead expenses was like 3
grand a month, like we can live off a three grand a month, you
know? And that then said OK, I knew at
that. I knew if it all came apart with
trying to do music full time, I knew that I could at least go
drive for Uber or Lyft. You know what I mean?
I literally went through the process, became certified in

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Uber and thankfully I never had to open up the app and drive for
them. But I knew at the very least I
can go do that, right? But most people aren't educated
on this sort of stuff. And so before you know, it got
all this debt and like you said,like before they even go and try
and pursue God's calling for youor your, your goal, you have
you're, you're, you're under so much pressure and so much
tension. Exactly.

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Yeah, bro, that's so key. And that's one of the really the
main things when I wrote my book.
Like my story's crazy. Like there's tons of
supernatural things that happened, divine moments God let
me do, like just crazy doors andmiracles.
But I also wanted to write a lotabout the practicality because
this is what I've always thought.
The world has like insane, like drive and lacks a lot of times

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purpose. And the church has insane
purpose, but lacks a lot of drive.
Come on. And I was like, man, what if you
combine drive with purpose? What can happen?
And so when I read people read the book or what you know, or
they go after the call in their life, I want them to do that.
And I want them to hear God's voice and take risks, but also
do it where it doesn't get them into this wild situation.
Because the truth is we're humans.

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Sometimes we think we hear God'svoice.
We might not. And that's a journey of figuring
that out. But yeah, like there's just wild
stuff, like people be like, you know, tithing on credit cards
and stuff like that. It's like, no, no, no, no, no,
God does not want you like tithing with that.
Tithing with increases what he wants.
So like, don't get too over spiritual.
Get practical, take wild steps of faith, and God can use that.

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Yeah, so the book is called Undercover Kindness, saying yes
to love, no to fear, and embracing the life changing
power of ordinary generosity. I love that title so.
Let's get boys on the back man right here.
Look at that, Dave Ramsey. One time but Dave Ramsey, that's
so cool. He he endorsed the.
Book. Yeah bro.
Awesome. So tell me, let's let's get into

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a bit of your origin story for folks who don't know where you
from, how did you get into doingthis sort of work?
What role did some of the practical stuff play into this?
And yeah, let's let's get into that.
Yeah, bro. Yeah, I'm from town in northern
Minnesota. Walker, Minnesota.
Like 900 people are, are in thatcity.
So yeah, you can't let go to prom or nothing or you'll be,

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end up with your like, you know,second cousins, whatever.
Like there's like 5 girls in my grade and 50 guys.
So it was a bit of an interesting place to grow up, a
really cool small town. Long story short, man, yeah.
I, I, my parents brought me to church my whole childhood.
Most of the time I'd want to sleep in or play Grand Theft
Auto, whatever, but they draggedme to church and I'd be all
right cool. And, and so it was chill, but I

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wasn't like hungry for the things of God or anything like
that. And sure enough, man, I when I
was in high school, I was walking up to my room and I turn
my head. I'm like, wait, mom, whose voice
is that you got on the TV right now?
I had never heard a voice that was like so powerful but not
condemning, but it was just, it was truth.
And it was just like, it just was so legit.

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And I was like, who's that? She's like, oh, his name's Billy
Graham and your dad got saved atone of his events or whatever.
So I was like Billy Graham. So I went to my room, went on
YouTube, typed in Billy Graham. It was a little embarrassed.
I'm like, you know, when you're younger like that, you kind of
want to be cool and like going like being into the things of
God kind of can seem cheesy or whatever.
So I was like, I don't want her to know, but I'm going to look

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up Billy Graham and I click on this video called Choices.
And I watch this video and straight up he just talks about
you can either live for the world, live for yourself, you
know, do that. And the path to that is, you
know, hell is a real thing, or you can follow Jesus, which you
were born for. You can live to serve other
people and and you can have eternal life with him, not just

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in heaven, but now a relationship.
And I was like, wait, what? Like I had been in church my
whole life, but never heard someone say something so simple
and direct. And I was like, crap, bro, I'm
going straight downstairs. Like I knew the stuff in my life
life wasn't good. I knew how selfish I was.
I knew all the sins that I I hadbeen living in were so exposed
to me all. That Grand Theft Auto.
Yeah, exactly. Even though I wasn't some kid,

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like, you know, I was never doing drugs or anything like
that. But you get convicted.
And so I got on my knees right there, gave my life to Jesus and
the one of the things I said is Lord, I wanna follow you and
please just don't give me a boring life like most pastors I
see. That's what I said, yeah, 'cause
I was like, man, I know this is true, but so many pastors just

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seems so like, like they're on like 80 bottles of Advil, you
know, like they're just their heart rates like this.
I'm like I want to have. Fun.
What you wanted? Adventure?
Yeah, yeah. Because that was a popular thing
with my friends. People would say is like, I'll
follow Jesus when I'm 90, but I'm going to have fun now and
then I get the best of both worlds.
Turn to find out. That's the opposite, you know,
like following God, you know, isnot make.

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It doesn't make you feel, you know, obligated to live
righteously. You desire to live righteously
when he rips out your heart gives you a new heart.
So I got saved, man. Right after that, one of the
most crazy situations in the world ever happened where I had
these socks that my mom got me for Christmas.
They had a little picture of Jesus on them from Urban
Outfitters. And I had these socks and I

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snuck out on and went to this party out in the woods in
Minnesota. And I was out there, there was
like a bonfire. Everyone was out there drinking,
partying. And I just knew I shouldn't have
been there. Like, you know, I, it wasn't
that I drank that night or did drugs or anything, but I
shouldn't have been at that party.
And I was running through the woods thrown by the fire.
Long story short, I I went on onthe way home, I checked and I'm

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like, oh bro, my socks are like ripped and have holes in them.
I was like, my mom's going to know I was at this party and
freak out. And so I was tripping out and I
got up to my room and I don't know what I was thinking, but I
had my socks in my hand and I was like, Jesus, please can you
help me? And thank God, Jesus, his face
was on the socks. Because who knows, I might have
prayed to someone else if that would have been.

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On the socks, but. I was like, Jesus, help me, you
know? And sure enough, I put my socks
in my underwear drawer, push allmy clothes up against it, and I
go to bed. And the next morning I wake up
before my mom comes to do laundry or anything, and I open
up that drawer and I grab the socks and they're brand new.
There's no holes on them, no nothing.

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And I'm tripping out and chills go over my body and I hear the
Lord just say to me, he goes, Jimmy, I'm not mad at you.
I want to be your friend. And I was like, what?
Like, wait, what? Like what?
Like God's not, why wouldn't he be mad at me like he like, And
so it was just started that journey where I was like, wait,
God wants to be my friend. He wasn't affirming those

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choices or that lifestyle, but he was saying, hey, just like a
hospital, you don't come all healed up.
You're not like bleeding out andyou're like, man, I'll go to the
hospital in three weeks. You're like, no, he wants you
like that so we can transform you.
And friendship was an invitationto know him rather than him
being like, I can't believe you did that because it was really
like the goodness of God leads men to repentance.

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And so yeah, bro, that's that's like what changed my life.
And and shortly after that, the second main thing that happened
in my story that really just gave me radical faith for
launching me into what I do today was I went to YWAM in
Hawaii, this school out there inKona.
Yeah. So I get out there my whole
life, bro, I had horrible scoliosis.

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So my spine was crooked and my left leg was like this much
shorter than my right leg. And it felt like a knife in my
back my whole life. And my mom would bring me to
chiropractors, doctors, even like church, like healing got
pastor guys. And nothing ever worked.
Nothing ever happened. And this doctor was like, yo, if
if you want, we can like lengthen your Achilles tendon or

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whatever. So like lengthen your leg out
and it'll be a surgery and you'll be in a wheelchair for a
little bit, but it might fix it.I'm like, heck no, I'm not like
having you like, cut up my leg for a chance something might
work. So I get out to school in
Hawaii. I'm there a couple weeks in and
we're in this tent at night. My school is.
And this guy's like, hey, Jimmy,like, do you want to get healed?

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And I was like, what? Like, what do you mean?
Like, yeah, sure. He's like, can I pray for you?
I'm like, right now. Like my church, they'd be like,
can we pray for you? And then they forget to even
pray for you. He was like, no, right here,
right? Now pray for you.
Brother, so bro, I straight up Isit down in this chair.
I'm like, bro, do what you got to do.
I'm not closing my eyes because I need to see whatever's going
on here, you know? And he holds on my legs and he

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goes check this out. He goes in Jesus name right now
leg grow and my leg starts to violently shake and goes
straight out to match the lengthof my other leg and I'm like Oh
my gosh. And I get up and I'm just
running up and down this hill. I'm like this is crazy.
Now my back is aligned. The scoliosis is like not there
anymore. So I got fully healed bro and

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that that just like from from then on I was like if everyone
in America leaves the church anddoesn't follow Jesus, I'm not
like what I just saw no one can make me Unsee it.
I was like. And the scoliosis is fully gone.
Yeah. Yeah.
You know, what's interesting is that that thing was a was kind
of like a trend with online healing for a while.
Yeah. And a lot of it was fake.
Yeah. And so it's crazy to hear you

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talk about. Oh, yeah.
It's like, no, no, no, no, this worked like this, this, this
really worked. And so your your back was healed
as well. Yeah, bro, yeah, 'cause my,
because my leg was shorter, my hips were off and because my
hips were off, my spine was off.So it was all connected to each
other. But what you're saying is crazy.
And so that's, that's what's so wild is that so many things that
God wants to do, so many people can manipulate it, can fake it,

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whatever. And we just have to be so
discerning to be like, all right, that's not every
situation, That's not everyone. And yeah, call people out when
they are doing that stuff, you know, but it is wild.
And so. So you get healed and then when
do you start dabbling in in thiskind of content space of like
extending undercover kindness topeople?

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Yeah, so before that, when I wasin high school, I made crazy
party videos, crazy prank videos.
I would like go, you know, on a highway and fall asleep and
backup traffic for miles or I'd put on like a fake.
What do you mean fall asleep on a highway?
What is it? Wait.
Wait, what? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I was like a crazy YouTube like prankster.

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Really. Yeah, bro, I would like be in
the intersection or on streets, fall asleep standing up like I
had narcolepsy or something. Traffic would be backed up for
miles and it'd be crazy. I'd I'd I'd do wild stuff and
then I'd. Say, was it kind of popping on
YouTube back then? No, nothing really took off and
I was always wondering, but it was like God was.
Clearly wasn't happening. He was not.

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Blessing it. And it got crazy, bro.
I I then did party videos in high school where I'd be like
punching myself in the face because my nose blood easy.
So I'd be bleeding everywhere and it'd be just like these
crazy videos. Or I'd go to colleges.
And I don't know if you rememberwhether there was this like
college series on YouTube where they would like, see what
college could party the hardest.So I started doing videos like

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that showing what college went the craziest.
And yeah, bro, it was just wild.But then when I met the Lord, my
pastor actually called me into his office and he was like,
Jimmy, he's like, you're a Christian now, right?
I'm like, yeah, I mean, yeah, I've been going to this church
for a while. But yeah, I mean, in my recent
encounter, yeah, I'm a full on Christian now.
And he's like, well, I'm lookingat your content right now and

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none of it lines up with the Bible.
And I was like, oh, yeah. And he's like, if you really
believe, go home and delete it. All right now.
Whoa. And I was like bro.
So you had you had given your life to the Lord, but they were,
you're still kind of making content.
That was a little SUS. Yeah, yeah, like just shortly
after, not long after, but shortly after and so.
Probably a pastor for calling you to repentance.
Yes, bro, that's that's what people need is someone that

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like, yeah, will just spit straight to you.
And so I go home, bro, I'm looking at my my account on my
videos. I'm like man, 20,000 some hours
of editing all this stuff. How many subscribers were you
added there? Probably like 18,000 or I forget
that joke. I mean, that's, that's that's a
pretty big YouTube channel. You weren't like Megaviral, but
that's pretty big, yeah. And so, yeah, bro, I just, I

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look at everything and I have this, this thought I'm like,
man, there's no way when I'm 80 years old, I'll regret giving
everything to God. But I will if I like, hold some
things back, you know? And so I just click delete and
then it says, Are you sure you want to delete?
I'm like, Dang it, the devil he there he is.
And I sure enough, man, I deleteeverything and go off the
Internet completely. And so I deleted Facebook, I

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deleted Instagram, Twitter, everything.
Like I didn't even have accounts.
I went off the Internet completely.
And so. So that you just delete your
videos but leave the channel open no every.
You. Actually deleted the entire.
Yeah, I delete everything. Yeah, any social media anything.
And yeah, bro, so I got rid of all this stuff and then I never

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plan on making videos again or doing content again.
And I it was it was few several years after I got saved.
I was in Northern California praying on this on this little
hill I say is a mountain, but it's a little hill.
And I was just like, God, I'm soglad I'm done making videos.
I'm so glad, you know, like justchasing the approval of man and
all that. I don't want to be known Jesus.

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I want to just live in North Dakota, the middle nowhere, live
a quiet, peaceable life. Just follow you.
I just I don't even have a desire to make content anymore
which is all I cared about as a kid.
And sure enough as soon as I said that the Lord says your
idols finally dead now go make videos for me.
And I was like my idols dead. I was like I deleted this years

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ago. What are you talking about?
He's like externally did you did, but internally it was still
a dream of yours until just now where you fully laid it down.
Isn't that interesting that thatthe very things that we're
willing to lay down and allow todie, that the Lord will take
those things and resurrect them and make him even better?
Yeah, it's, it's, it's crazy. Yeah.
Anything that truly dies can truly live again.

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And you see so many tests like that just all the time, even now
or whatever, you know, like justthese little things will happen
and and you'll be like, Dang, itbothers you.
But then if you go away, it's bad that that bothers me.
Let me let the bothering part inme die to that.
And then sure enough, the answerto your prayer happens like 2
days later. So it's crazy.
But I, I was like, well, well, what kind of videos do I make

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him? And and yeah, I'm I'm back home
working at my dad's restaurant, bussing tables, a server.
How long ago was this? This was so I'm 29 now.
I was in the book, I had all thedates and everything exactly to
the T, So I don't want to misspeak, but it was like I was
like 2424 when I was at my dad'shouse, 2520. 4 So this I mean

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this isn't this is pre pre pandemic then.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I I come out, sit on my dad's
deck and he looks at me and he goes Jimmy, he goes, what do you
want to do with your life? I was like, damn, man.
Well, I guess it's not working for you because I'm like I'm
working at your. Rest is like man what are you
doing bro? Living rent free.
I mean, it was, it was nice, I'mnot going to lie.
He's got a crib on the lake. So yeah.

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But sure enough, he looked at me.
He goes, what do you want to do with your life?
And I said, I said, I mean, if Icould do anything, it would be
to travel around the world, change as many peoples lives as
possible, be like a modern day Santa Claus.
But I was like, that doesn't exist.
Like there's no job you can apply for to do that, you know?
And he just looks at me and he doesn't give me some over

(31:52):
spiritual answer or this or that.
He just goes, all right, start tomorrow.
And so I'm like, start tomorrow because he's just some old
school guy who's just like, yeah, if you want to do
something, make it happen. And so I go to my room and I'm
kind of like, and my dad doesn'tunderstand.
You don't want to strive. God has to open the door.
I had been, you know, in awesomeministry schools, but have my my

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mind got a little over spiritual.
And so I was like, wait, what ifI needed what my dad said?
Like I just need to go and do something practical.
And so I get in my car, man, andI, I start hitting the road
making content and I'm like, God, how can I do these videos
but not make it about like, Hey,it's me, Jimmy, and I'm going to
give away this car. Do this like, because that's

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been done on YouTube so many times.
And all the glory and honor likegoes to the creator.
And I just, it's weird. It's like, don't let your left
hand know what your right hand is doing.
It's like I have a desire to bless people, but I don't want
the comments and everything to be about me.
And that's when just it's crazy,man.
The Lord just spoke clear as day.
He goes, I want you to ask people for help and when they
help you change their life. And I was like, ask people for

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help. I want to help them.
What do you mean ask people for help?
And so this was not a thing at all on the Internet.
No one was doing this. It wasn't a trend, nothing.
And I was like, all right, ask people for help.
So I had $100 in my pocket, and his family's crossing the street
in Costa Mesa. And I say, hey, I'm so sorry.
Is there any way you could give me some food?
I'm just, I'm hungry. I haven't eaten all day.

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And they look at me and they go,yeah.
And they pull a burrito out of their backpack, give it to me.
Like, the daughter has like, a dollar.
She gives it to me. And this beautiful little
Hispanic family just staring at me just like trying to love on
me. And I'm like, all right, this is
going to sound so weird, but youcan have it back.
And the truth is I just want to see the first person to help me.
And I have $100 for you. And they're just overwhelmed.

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Start tearing up and and, and itwas crazy.
And that was the first ever video I did of this kind of
content. And the comments blew up.
The video went viral. And the coolest thing was 90
some percent of the comments weren't Jimmy so awesome.
Jimmy's amazing. They were all about the guy that
I helped and how awesome he was.And then they started saying
stuff like, let's pay his rent, let's do this and that.

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And so that's when I started doing like raising money on
Gofundmes and Venmo's and stuff.And we paid the guy's rent for a
few months. And it just really snowballed
from there to now, like you said, I mean, it's been one day
and we've raised like almost 300,000 for this guy.
But yeah, and then it obviously became like a trend on the
Internet. Now there's, you know, probably
10 other craters doing similar content.

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But it's it's pretty wild how itstarted.
Man, you know, it's interesting to hear you say that because
there's another Jimmy that does a lot of charity and folks know
him. He's kind of done some of the
stuff. Mr. Beast, what do you think of
his model? And he also comes from a
Christian home, right? But what do you think of his

(34:44):
model and stuff he's been doing,and how is it different from
what you've been doing? Yeah, yeah, his stuff some more,
you know, challenges. So it's more like, you know,
stay in this room for three weeks and you'll win $1,000,000,
which is awesome. I've done I'm.
Talking about like the charity stuff?
Yes too. Oh, the beast philanthropy.
Yeah, yeah, Beast philanthropy. Super dope.
Yeah. So I've actually done like, I
don't know, probably 3 or 4 collabs with Jimmy over the

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years, a couple years ago. Jimmy's Unite.
Yeah, Yeah, yeah, yeah. Jimmy.
Well, yeah, his name is Jimmy Donaldson.
I'm Jimmy Dore. So Jimmy D Jimmy D, it was, it
was hilarious, but he's a super cool guy, man.
And yeah, he, he gets a lot of, you know, people love him, hate
him this snap. But from my experience with him,
he's super genuine guy. And yeah, the beast philanthropy
stuff's amazing. I mean, he'll give like, you

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know, 1000 people vision for thefirst time or build homes and
all this. So that's really dope man.
And, and props to him. I I really love his content a
lot but. What do you think people though
that that are, like, mad at him?Like, like the Internet is such
a weird place because there'll be people that are mad at
someone doing good. Yeah.
And it doesn't make any sense. Like, like, how is him helping

(35:48):
thousands of people get the eye surgery for cataracts so they
could see better, Right. And and then it's like a weird
pocket of the Internet that getsreally upset about doing good
works. Yeah, bro, I heard it was some
pastor, he once said he's like, if if you don't run into a demon
every once in a while, you mightbe going in the same direction
as them. And so obviously we see that in
the life of Jesus, how he was persecuted.

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And if there's any promise in scripture he gives, it's that
you'll be persecuted for living righteous.
And so anytime you do something good, there's always going to be
people that say negative things about it.
And if anything, it shouldn't discourage you.
It should actually be like, oh, OK, we're doing what God calls
us to where if all you get his hand claps, you might be, it
might be some off there, you know.
So I would just say that, yeah, man, it's unfortunately people.

(36:34):
Yeah, like to, you know, yeah. They're just unhappy, their own
life, their own situations. They don't want to see someone
else get blessed. And there's a million reasons
for that, you know, or other things they don't like about the
creator's beliefs or views, and they will attack them.
But at the end of the day, if people are able to bless people,
I think that's a great thing. Even sometimes, you know, not,

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not necessarily him, but just anyone in general.
If you don't know their motive or whatever, this billionaire
did this, you know, he's horrible.
It's like, and I think of that verse, I mean, you know, the
Scripture and like the verse is better than me, but where that
guy was preaching in, the disciples were like, yo, should
we shut this guy up? And he's like, if he's not
against us, he's for us, you know.
And it talks about like some preach the gospel out of like

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selfish ambition and this and that, but at least the Gospels
being preached. Yeah.
And so that's kind of what I think about philanthropy.
When people are doing stuff, it's like, bro, who knows their
motives, Only them and God know that, you know.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying. But as long as they're doing
stuff like, I'm not going to tryto stop that or say anything
negative about those people. Have you gotten any similar hate

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towards your videos? Honestly, I don't know, I mean,
maybe I I honestly like don't read comments that much wise
man. Yeah bro, yeah, exactly.
It'll it'll. But not at the scale where
you've noticed it. Yeah, yeah.
So I mean, you read comments andit's either bad or bad, right?
Why I say bad or bad is it's like if you, you know, live by

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by people's praise, you'll die by their criticism, you know, so
it's like if I if I read comments and they're good,
that's not good for for me or toget your ego thinking you're
some special like Angel. And if you read native content
or comments, that's just going to discourage you.
So yeah, I mean, there's been random videos, I mean, all over
the Internet of people hating onwhat I do or this or that, but

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try not to let it get to me. And if anything, it should just
draw me back to the secret placebecause I can go to my mom or
dad or wife and be like, man, look what this person said or
that. And they'll give me
encouragement. It'll it's like a Band-Aid.
But when you go to Jesus and youget on your knees and you're
like, Lord, like, like what I'm doing.
Do you love this? Is it wrong?
What do you think about this person said?

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And when he speaks to you, it like heals you.
Come on, you know. And so that's why I try to find
my strength. Your approach in asking for help
and then turning around and blessing the person has, has in
a way kind of became a trend forother creators.
Yeah, yeah, it's, it's huge now.Yeah.
There's like tons of creators that how.

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Does that? How does that make you feel?
Yeah, I mean, it's, it's good. And at the same time I would say
like, I don't know why everyone does it.
You know, for me it was the the Lord brought me into doing it,
gave the idea. And so I, I try to keep it
really pure around that. And so the only thing that will
bother me sometimes that I see not a lot, but sometimes, you
know, if there's creators that are doing something like this

(39:25):
and they'll put in the nose of people not helping them.
I'm like, man, that this, this idea was never meant to like
highlight someone's weakness. It was only meant to magnify
someone's strength. Come on.
And so that's, that's my big deal.
Like when I go hit the streets at a laundromat and if someone
doesn't give me quarters to helpsomeone, I'm not like, how could
you do it? Your whole person?
I'm like, no, I might have done the same thing.

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Like I'm sure there's a million reasons that's why you didn't
help me or whatever. Like I don't help every single
person I see. So there's nothing wrong with
that. Bless you, pray for you.
And the one that does is who we're going to highlight stuff
on. So that's the only thing that
bothers me sometimes I see. But other than that, I mean,
yeah, it's great that. It's blown up and there's people
doing it in countries that I can't even get to or people I

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can't even get to. And ultimately it's, it's never,
you know, my idea, like every idea, you know, from the Lord is
his idea. And so I don't have any
ownership over that or whatever.So props to that.
What percentage of people do sayno to helping you?
I think we see the good stories,and that's props to you for
highlighting the generosity and then being a blessing.

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Yeah. What percentage say no?
I mean, it honestly depends on the ask, you know, if sometimes
if I knock on someone's door, I must say, hey, you know, my hot
water went out three weeks ago. Can I shower at your house?
I might be on the street for 10 hours, you know, and get 20
doors slammed in my face. But if I'm at a bus stop and I'm
like, yo, I'm a quarter short, it might be the very first
person. So a lot of times people help me

(40:50):
right away just because I go in areas and try to make the ass
not massive. It's not like I'm saying, hey, I
need 100 bucks. I'm saying, hey, could I have a
dollar for this food or could I this and that?
Or sometimes not even monetary, can I just have a hug, you know?
And so, yeah, man. The cool thing about it though,
is these people, they didn't just be kind in that one moment.

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They've lived a lifestyle of kindness.
And in that moment it gets put on focus.
And if they become a hero, But the truth is they became that
person from their their entire life before that.
And so I think that's really cool because there's a verse
that talks about like don't growweary and doing good for in due
time you will reap a harvest. And so I tell these people all

(41:31):
the time, I'm like, yo, I'm sureyou helped and nothing ever came
back to you, but God saw your heart, God saw your purity.
And in this moment, God wants toreward you.
And the cool thing about it is they think it's just 500 bucks
or 1000 bucks. And I'm like, you know, doing my
little laugh, I'm like, hey, youjust stay off your phone for 24
hours. I'm going to call you in the
morning. And they think, what's he going

(41:52):
to bring me like a birthday cakeand balloons.
And sure enough, a lot of times it's like, yo, we got 100,000.
Dollars on bro what's the OK tell me your craziest ask for
someone you say is it the showerthing?
Bro, I mean, that's, that's pretty up there.
Shower thing. Yeah.
I mean, I've asked people like, hey, can you give me a ride
through the drive through? I'm, I'm not, you know,
comfortable going inside. So that's, that's more like a

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funny, weird ones. Like what do you mean you're not
comfortable going inside? But but yeah, I mean, I've this
one guy actually. Yeah, that was probably the
craziest ask was last year in Minnesota.
I knocked on this guy's door andI said hey man, I'm I'm
traveling and I got my backpack in my tent and I have nowhere to
sleep tonight. Can I stay at your house and

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this? Just random.
Dude, yeah, this dude straight up let me put a tent in his
house and with my buddy and we slept in his house overnight.
We did s'mores with him. He had one arm.
It was crazy. The the house was was wild.
People are very, very kind in Minnesota though.
Like, I feel like it has some ofthat like Canadian charm, you

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know, like the Midwest in general.
Well, that's what I did. So I I did Minnesota because it
was Minnesota. Nice.
That's what they're known for. But after that, like a week
later, I went to Rhode Island and did the rudest place in
America. And so I had great experiences
there as well. But yeah.
So the biggest ask you say, can I shower in your house?
Yeah, can I sleep in your house?Can I sleep in your house?
But anything else comes to mind.Aw.

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Man, Yeah, yeah, this one I did,it was, it was a while back I
said, hey, like I'm a Barber trying to get reps in.
Is there any way I could practice and give you a haircut?
And this dude, this dude, let megive him a, a nice buzz cut.
I faded up the sides. OK, yeah, I I try not to mess
him up, mess him up too bad, but.
That's awesome. And what's the largest amount

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you've ever raised? Right here.
Right here. Yeah, right here.
Shout out, Pastor Will man. Yeah.
You refresh that. It probably went out.
He's at 285. Let's see you hit the refresh
290, bro. That's 5 grand, Yeah, Since,
yeah, he's probably the highest paid man, like in California
right now per hour or something,you know?
That's incredible. Does he does he know about?

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This Yeah, yeah, I told him like, you know, this morning.
So what's the the second highestamount you've ever raised for
someone on GoFundMe? Probably recently a man.
Who's this guy working at Sprouts?
And he, we, he was homeless, butworking at Sprouts and we
raised, yeah, like 150,000 for him.
And he's now, yeah, he's chilling.

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He got a brand new truck, he's got an RV on some land.
He's still working but at a different location.
And like that's, that's my favorite thing is when people
just steward it well and continue to work and stuff like
that. So.
You mentioned what pastor will you were like, hey, let me find
you a financial. Yeah, advisor.
How, when is when is a large sumof money?
I'm assuming you you try to do that.

(44:42):
You try to get somebody. Yeah, yeah.
I mean, I, I try to give them just 20 minutes of advice right
off the bat because Dave Ramsey changed my life.
So I'm like, yo, like look at ifyou put this much in investments
times 10%. That compound interest is crazy
bro. Like $100 a month away for 30
years and it's 1,000,000 bucks. So I try to pour in them that
way. Obviously it's their money so
I'm not, you know, going to be like you have to do this or

(45:03):
that. So I'll recommend them and then
it's up to them to do what they want.
But that's awesome, man. The cool thing is, you know,
what's cool is you hear all these stories about people who
win the lottery almost every time it ends horrible, right?
And I was thinking about that and I was like, that's so
interesting. And not not to call out people

(45:24):
that buy a scratch off ticket. Like when I was a kid, me and my
dad would get a Powerball ticketfor fun.
But in in a sense, it's like buying the lottery.
It's like you're buying it for greed because you want to win
this massive amount and you're buying it.
And gambling is just not good ingeneral.
And so the soil that that blessing lands on when they win
is like the soil lands on greed.That's.

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What? That is a good observation.
But this the soil lands on generosity.
It was their kindness. It was they didn't buy, but they
gave and the blessing lands on. So I'm sure, man, I've, I've,
you know, raised money for hundreds of people.
And I'm sure there's been several people who didn't
steward it well or went through a quick, but the majority have
steward it well. And I think it's because of that

(46:05):
soil. Praise God.
OK, you told me GoFundMe has to send you a plaque.
Yeah, yeah. What?
What? So what is the total number
you've raised for people? Do you?
Remember that? But man, I don't know.
It's, it's, it doesn't say the number on the plot.
That was the funniest thing. I'm like the plaque just says
like, congratulations. It didn't even say anything
else. They, they send an e-mail, all
these other facts and stuff. But yeah, it's, it's several

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$1,000,000. So it's, it's crazy.
Yeah. OK.
I want to come back to this ideayou mentioned earlier and you
were, you said you were basically you were saying you
were so heavily minded that you were of no earthly good when you
were going through all the ministry training, right?
And that you needed to become more practical, like unpack a
little bit more of that for me. Yeah, I think that that, yeah,

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being practical is, is, yeah, just wisdom.
And you can also be supernaturalat that.
But in the spheres that I kind of went to church and stuff
like, yeah, a lot of people, it's like, you know, God's
called me to be, you know, a musician and this and that, or
to have a podcast or whatever. And they just kind of wait
around for like some crazy person to knock on the door and

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make it happen for them. And the truth is it's like, man,
be faithful and little. And with that, God will bring
the increase. And so it's really just a
revelation of that. It's like, wait, yeah, like I
need my or also people struggle with like I will try that
brother. I'll get into that.
But right now God just like purify me and making my heart
right there is truth to that. Like have those seasons of

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hiddenness, but at the same time, you'll never like no
warrior is ever becomes the bestwarrior by being just like
always in training. Like it's when they're in battle
is when they get good. And so you can try to have your
heartbeat this perfect and that and all these things out of it,
but a lot of stuff won't be exposed until you start doing
what you're called to do. Just like I'm sure you probably

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thought, just like me, like me, I'm going to be the most perfect
husband ever. And then you get married.
You're like, oh, shoot, there's like this thing is selfishness.
There's that and it comes out. And so I tell people, just
start, make the first step. Watch what happens after that.
And be careful also at what you what you define success as,
because if you decide define success as numbers as as as

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metrics, even souls can be bad. Because the truth is God would
away rather have your heart and you then lose you and in the
process save 300 people through your ministry.
I know it doesn't make sense, but it's an upside down Kingdom.
He leaves the 99 for the one, and he's so omnipresent that
he's so personal in everyone's life that he truly does care

(48:37):
about his relationship with you more than what your ministry
produces. Yeah.
And so, yeah, man, I would just say be careful how you define
success and don't don't get discouraged in it.
Like you might be like, wow, I must have heard God wrong and my
song and blow up. Like, yo, maybe he wanted 2000
people to hear your song and it touched someone's life.
Who's going to do this and that?Yeah, so that's good.
Yeah. Well, I, I, I loved it.

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You're, you're gluing these different worlds for people,
right? There's this component of
kindness and charity and compassion, but there's also
this like, hey, man, like you, you got to get up and get to it.
Like you can't just sit on your hands and wait for the Holy
Spirit to show up to in a burning Bush and give you the,
the game plan. Like you got to start doing
stuff. And I just, what I'm encouraged

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by is like, what if the, this, this revival that seems to be
happening on the Internet? What if these, all these people
that are coming to the Lord Gen.Z a church attendance is, is, is
up right at my church. I'm not sure how it is at your
church or my church. The past 3-4 weeks we've had
record-breaking attendance, right?
This is the first time in modernhistory where there's more men,

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young men going to the church than young women like that, Like
that's never happened before. And I wonder what if more people
got a hold of what you're talking about, What I'm talking
about a godly ambition and said,hey man, like let's get on
mission for making the most of our time, talent and treasure to
utilize what God has deposited. To not be afraid of having goals

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and having visions and having dreams and going after it,
knowing that ultimately what is it about having a heart for the
Lord and then doing the inputs, knowing that God ultimately has
to breathe in and provide the outputs, right?
We sow the the seed, we tend to the lamb, but God ultimately has
to send the rain and the sun to make it grow.
And I wonder if more people got a hold of that and we're willing

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to commit to that for a long enough time horizon.
Like how different could the world look in 5-10 years from
now? Well, yes, I understand
everyone's not going to be a YouTube, Everyone's not going to
be a podcaster, but there are people listening to this right
now with dreams of a nonprofit. They want to start a ministry.
That was our chair dirty. They want to start.
Some of them do want to be content creators, right?
And if and if everybody went after it and said, man, I'm

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going to go after it. I'm going to stop being in my
head in this analysis of paralysis.
Is this really for me or is thisreally for God?
And I don't know, but like I'm just going to give my heart to
the Lord and go after it. Like how different could the
world be in 5-10 years from now?Yeah, yeah, bro, 100%.
You know, I think, I think the main thing is the way the gospel

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is preached to a lot of people, They get it preached to where
man, Jesus is going to come in your life, everything's going to
be great. Prayers are going to be
answered. You're you're going to get
promotions. It's he's going to heal your
body. All it's all boom, boom, boom,
boom. When really the gospel is not
actually truly about that. The gospel is about you being
transformed and you being the one that loves now, Like, yeah,

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it's great to receive love, but it's better to give it.
And I and it's like everyone in their walk with Jesus will, will
have stories where it's like, man and me and my wife, we're
down to our last 100 bucks and all of a sudden this job just
came up for $2000 or man, my carbroke down and someone pulled
over on the side of the road andtowed me to the car dealership

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and and got me, you know, like fix my car for me.
Like those are great. But you know, what's better than
that is being the one doing it. Come on.
And so if the church can grab a hold of it's cool to get
blessed, but it's way cooler to bless.
We will transition into a peopleof doing, not just a people of
receiving. And I think that's really where

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that comes. I think.
I think people, when they get upon stage or whatever, you know,
it's funny how churches are like, the crowd will go crazy
and they'll share testimony. I was down to this and this and,
and, and and it's it's about howlike some crazy miracle came in
at the last second. That's cool.
It should be celebrated. But what could be celebrated
even more is US doing those things rather than them being

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done to us. Yeah.
Well, what we're blessed to be ablessing, right?
And So what you're getting at, Ithink so yes, there's this like
idea that yes, like the Lord cando miracles and can financially
bless you or heal you instantly,all that sort of stuff.
But what I love when you describe the gospel of like how
the gospel transforms you. And then when you're
transformed, you're blessed to be a blessing.
And then it's often the people that are generous that are just

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more fun to be around. And paradoxically, the people
that give and have an open mentality are the people that
get more opportunities afforded to them because they're just
they're better hang like like, so it's not it's not, it's like
it's, it's kind of deep from oneperspective, because you would
think that man, in order to become quote UN quote successful
or to to get married or to have a family or to buy a house, you

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got to clobber and cut, you know, get rich or die trying
hustle broke culture. But it's actually the opposite.
Like if you serve people, if yougive, it transforms you, right?
Because Jesus gave everything and we're supposed to display
that. And then when that transforms
you, paradoxically, you're more fun to be around.
So then that opens up more doorsfor you, whether those are job

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opportunities, community opportunities, like fill in a
blank and, and paradoxically, that's what actually moves the
needle to get towards the destination that you're going
after and whatever it is you're going after.
And so it's like, it's very hard, like I'm having trouble
just even articulating this. But, but you know that when
you're around someone generous, and I don't mean just like what
you do with money, but I mean like someone, like someone
that's like you meet and they'relike, bro, I'm an open book.

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My time's available to anything I could do.
And you and they're actually, they stand on that like they'll
they'll pick up the call, they'll give you the information
that that person is so much moreattractive to opportunities and
other people, right. And so I think that's that's the
part people miss. Man is like the doing is what
helps with the transforming, andthe transforming is what helps
with walking in the fullness of what God has for you.

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Yeah, yeah. You couldn't have said it
better. And that's the truth.
If people realize that, they'll actually be super stoked at the
place they're in, not just the place they're going.
Like me, man, it might. Some of my favorite moments ever
is when I lived in Austin, TX and I was a dog Walker picking
up dog poop and worked at a restaurant.
Why? Because I wasn't like, man, I'll
be happy if I get to this place.I was like, man, God's placed me

(54:43):
right here and I'm going to justwreak havoc on hell right here.
And I know so many cool things come out of that.
So it's like normally when you're the waiter, you're hoping
for a big tip. Well, I'd be a waiter and I'd be
like, yeah, just let you know that the bills not coming.
I just want to take care of thatfor you and ask you if I can
pray for you. And they're just like, wait,
what? And sure enough that you just do
that. And then sure enough, like 3

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weeks later they come back in and they're like, hey, if you're
ever looking for an opportunity,use a business card or whatever,
that stuff happens bro. That stuff happened to me so
many times I can't even keep track of.
And so when you have that mindset, really increase does
lead to more increase. You know, the parable of was it
the talents or, or one of those where it's like the person that

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had little got even what he had taken away and the person that
had more got more. And it's like when you live
generous, heaven can bless you more because heaven, heaven is,
is not looking just for someone with like a beating heart.
What heaven is looking for is if, if you have money or
anything in your hand and it's like this and you want to bless
me right now, what's going to happen?
It's going to fall and hit the ground if you drop money on my
hand. But if, if I get something in my

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hands like this with it, oh, youwant to, you want a man come
over and watch a movie on my TV or you want to, you know, you
need some money for rent. Whatever your hands like this,
heaven can bless you more. And, and they're, they, they,
they can't pop. Heaven can't possibly bless a
heart of greed because it will lead to more greed.
But heaven can heart bless a heart of generosity because it
will lead to more generosity. And if people can get that

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heart, you'll be so surprised, surprised at how you've done so
many prayer meetings and books and this and that, looking for a
breakthrough when breakthrough can be so practical.
Do you make that slight adjustment in your heart, your
day-to-day life? You're working at a froyo shop
rather than like, man, when am Igoing to get off work?
You're like, man, God, next person who comes in here, What
do you want me to tell them? Even before I say them?

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What do you want me to tell them?
You want me to tell them that they're a great father and that
they're this. I'm going to do that.
And, and just, man, so many things happen in that place.
Yeah, I, I think. Yeah, yeah, you're spot on, man.
And I think like you kind of hinted at earlier, like it
really is better to give than itis to receive.
And everybody wants the miracle and overnight thing.
But sometimes, man, just being in a position where you can be a

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blessing to people. I think the part that I've
struggled with and you can you can tell me, you can tell me.
I'm sure you wrestle with the 2 is like, how much of that is for
social media or content, right? So there's this and I've had the
conversation like Bryce Crawfordand other people of like, man,
just just just God's using us todo cool stuff.
But how much of that is for content?

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You know, I love being a husbandand a father, but I don't really
like I get from newlyweds or dudes that are about to get
engaged is like, bro, we need tosee more of your family.
Like we don't get to see a lot of folks your age with kids and
a family and they come over and they just want to hang out.
And so it's like this tension oflike, well, do I highlight more
of my family? But I kind of want to get that
private. And it's like God uses me to do

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all kinds of amazing stuff in mylocal church and just be a
blessing and something. But I never really put that
stuff on the Internet. And so I like, how do you manage
that tension? Because that's something I've
like been wrestling through. I understand the utility of
showing, Hey, man, this is this is like what you're really after
isn't money and fame. You really actually want a
family and purpose, you know, and these are the blessings of
that. But at the same time, some of

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that's not ideal to put on the Internet.
I'm not talking for security reasons, because there's also
that side of it, right? But I'm talking just for
practical reasons. How do you how do you wrestle
with that in terms of like highlight?
It's like that whole like, don'tlet your left hand know what
your right hand is doing, right?So this stuff that I do that
that is generous, but I don't I don't put that on the Internet.
And should I put that on the Internet?
And what do you make of all that?
Yeah, man, I think, I think if if something's authentic.

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It's good. If something's not authentic,
it's not good. So let's say I'm giving away
thousands of dollars in videos and this and that.
But then my friends like, yo, Jimmy, can you give me a ride at
the airport? I'm like, Nah, man, I'm good.
Or they're like, hey, Jimmy, like can you spot me?
I'm short for this meal. And I'm like, oh really, bro,
you didn't bring your wallet. And if I'm living from that
place, then absolutely I need toshut down any public mirror of

(58:36):
a, of a false reality. Absolutely.
But if you're living, you know, generous and private and then
you also are in public, I think that's, that's a great place to
be. And really you just have to keep
keep that in your heart with God, like God is, do you want me
to keep doing this? Like I'll quit making videos
whenever you want. Like for me, when I make a video
and raise $300,000, whatever, some of people like you're

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amazing. You're like, I don't even think
of what I don't even like check it down or I don't even go to
bed at night with, wow, I did something great.
Like to me, I'm just like doing what I'm called to do.
So I don't even like, consider that like going above and beyond
or whatever. That's more things I do in my
private life that people don't get to see.
Like I don't believe there's anyreward for me and what I'm doing
in eternity that's public. I think the rewards are really

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only for the private things in my life.
And that might not be a reality until I get to heaven.
I don't know. But that's kind of how I live
from. Yeah.
And so, yeah, bro, I think, I think that, yeah.
And then and then what's the cost of it?
Because everything can lead to something.
But what does it rob you of? So it's like, if you're a great
parent and someone's like, man, parenting content would be
awesome. If you can do that and it

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doesn't bother you at all, upload it.
Sure, you encourage some parents, but if it takes away
even .1% from the real vibe of you and your wife and the
privacy, the intimacy, then it'snot worth it.
Even if it blesses 9 million people, it's not worth it.
Like I said, like God's way moreconcerned with you and your
family than he is about any, youknow, out reach you can do.
And so that's that's kind of theplace I would try to live from.

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But yeah, man, absolutely like because because that's that's
where most church hurt kind of comes from.
It's like PKS kids who it's like, Yo, my dad preaches a fire
sermon, but at home he's like yelling at mom and this and
that. And so anytime there's that
going on, like you're not a horrible person, you don't need
to go and do you like just just just get your heart back right
with God. That's good, man.

(01:00:25):
No, that's really helpful That that that acts that's.
Actually really helpful because I think finding looking for ways
to to highlight generosity from a place of overflow or looking
for ways to highlight aspects offamily from a place of overflow.
We've done a little bit like I did a day in life vlog.
It was just showing like a, a regular day and it I had my kids
in it, but we didn't like put their faces in it a whole lot.

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Like my son was in it a little bit and people were like, man,
it's so cool to see you as a dad.
I never get to see this part of you.
So I think we want to do more stuff like that.
That's super helpful. OK, tell me, just like
logistically you, you have that first video pops off, right?
How does 1 build like the Jimmy Darts ecosystem in the world
and, and the practical side of what you're doing, right?

(01:01:06):
Like is it, is it like you just you're crushing it on YouTube?
Is it sponsors? Is it a Patreon?
How did you build this whole ecosystem out?
Yeah, bro. I mean, it just kind of
happened. You know, just wildly.
I mean, the, the when I when I was a little kid, like the first
roots of what I did was I was a little kid talks about in the
book, but my parents gave me $200 for Christmas and I was so

(01:01:28):
stoked. I was jumping up and down they
go, oh, wait, you actually have to keep 100 for yourself, but
the other hundred you have to give away to a stranger.
And I was like, what, are you serious?
And so I was, you know, upset. But then sure enough, I gave it
to someone. Bless this guy who was out
freezing in the cold. And looking back at that, I'm
like, bro, I have no idea when Igot that year as a kid for
Christmas with the other 100. How how old are you?

(01:01:50):
I I the. Days the the.
Years in the book, but I don't know the exactly like I have to
think about it like when I wrotemy book, I used like my mom and
all these people to be like whatday was that at a photo?
So I think it was like 6 or 7 years old or something like
that. So I was a little kid, bro.
But but yeah, so that that was kind of like the foundation of
everything. But from this man, it just

(01:02:10):
happened supernaturally, you know, like I just began to post
the videos, people watch the videos, people donated to help
these people out. Then random brand sponsorships
would, would, would come in withWalmart or the NFL or this or
that. So that's how I was able to take
care of myself and I was able tojust transition and not just do
this like part time, but really do this full time, you know?

(01:02:31):
So when did you go full time with this man?
When I. Left my dad's.
When I left like that the deck at my parents house is when I
got in my car and hit the road in between.
Then I went to Florida to sell door to door security for a
company as I was growing TikTok and YouTube.
But I bagel. I never got a sale.
And I was like, that's the way you went to do door to door

(01:02:53):
sales. Yeah.
And never. Made a sale?
Yeah. Never got a sale.
I was like knocking for weeks out.
There, Yeah, it was crazy, but that also probably taught you
some resilience and. Like being willing to step out
in uncomfortable situations. Oh, yeah, yeah.
I mean, my, yeah. My the way I grew up.
In stuff fear and it's that was never really a problem.
But yeah bro it's wild. Like knocking on doors and I'm

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like, that's so weird because everyone else in the office is
like way less good of a talker than I am.
And, and, and communicator like,how are all these people getting
sales? But I'm not.
And sometimes when that happens,you have to stop and go wait.
Maybe like it's not my lack of effort.
Maybe it's actually a full closed door I'm just hitting my
head on, you know. And so yeah, bro, during that

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time I was like, man, I was bageling every day, not selling
a single door. And I was like, I'm going to go
to California and just go full time.
So that was about like 4 1/2 years ago or so.
And. And it was because you used to
mention earlier, right? And.
It was because you didn't have any debt.
Yeah, because you were wise financially and I had an Amazon
business. Yeah.
OK, OK. Tell me about.

(01:03:53):
That yeah, it's a, It's a. Long story, but essentially.
Yeah bro I had a Amazon businesswhere I was selling like
cleaning supplies, so I was making like 3-4 thousand a month
from that. So that alone was I was chilling
and didn't need. This is at the time where you
can buy stuff on Amazon, ship itto a.
Factory, I mean, so I bought my stuff.
I'm like, was it Alibaba? Exactly.
Ship it to a factory, white label it, and then Amazon

(01:04:16):
fulfilled it for you. Yeah.
And you were. So you were crushing at that.
Yeah. Yeah.
I mean, not like crazy to some of the other guys.
But it was enough where I was like, bro, I don't need to work.
I can just do fully what I love.And that's, that's what I'm
saying like, and we, we were talking about earlier, it's like
if you knock out some of these practical things, you know,
like, like God can turn all things to good for those that
love them. And so if you hear this, don't
ever get condemned or feel I messed up too much, but just

(01:04:38):
like waiting to to, you know, have sex until you get married,
We're not having a child before you're married.
Not like marriage before the carriage.
Not. Yeah, exactly.
Not buying something that you can't.
Afford it's so funny where it's like we go to a restaurant and
they're like that'll or that'll be 50 bucks like man, it's food
too expensive. I can't go.
But when it comes to buying a house or a car, we're like, oh,

(01:04:59):
if I don't have nearly as much, it doesn't matter.
It's like, no, like I wish credit cards and stuff didn't
even exist. You know, it's like if you
earned it and have the money, buy it, but if not, don't.
So yeah, I was, I was in a placeof freedom like that so I could
pursue content. That's so dope.
So when did financially? This replace all your other
revenue streams like your your content stuff.

(01:05:19):
Was that how how long ago was that and how did that come to
be? Yeah, so interesting.
Question yeah, I, I basically, yeah, bro started doing videos
for the adventure challenge where I would, you know, go
around the country doing those and around the world doing
those. Some other brand deals and stuff
came in and then, yeah, my Amazon, I had that running.
But I put my brother-in-law in charge of that and he kind of he

(01:05:42):
was working with me helping build the videos and everything,
but he he forgot to like reordera couple times and so the
listing just kind of got shut down.
Dad, your brother fumble. OK.
Yeah, yeah. But it was all.
Good. So.
So you got a brand deal. Am I tracking correctly as you
get a brand? Your your first couple brand
deals, that's when the Amazon store kind of fades.
Yeah. Yeah, exactly.
OK. And and how long ago was that?

(01:06:05):
Right when I started probably yeah, like 4 and. 1/2 years ago,
OK. Yeah.
So it was that was that at that point pretty instantaneous in
terms of revenue. And being able to sustain
yourself off of just YouTube. And yeah, it was just me, man.
Like I said, it was just me. I had a.
Couple of roommates here, you know, and so my expenses were
nothing, you know, for everything I had I mean, I don't
know, I could probably live on like 1500 bucks a month.

(01:06:26):
So it was it wasn't too, too hard.
Yeah, man, I I get, I get. I think people miss that part of
it like. So many young people are going
out, taking out student loan debt, racking up their credit
cards, and then they wonder like, oh, man.
But I like, really got this dream to go do this thing.
And it's like, you don't even have the capacity to give that a
shot because you're way underwater every single month.

(01:06:47):
Yeah, I have a friend in this exact situation right now
actually. Where he's working at a hotel,
he's got some debt and he wants to make videos and pursue his
creativity stuff. And he's like, you know,
sometimes giving away money thathe doesn't even have or, or
doing stuff. I'm like, bro, like, no, trust
me, God's not called telling youto do this right now, like, pay
off your debt, get in the green,and then from there.

(01:07:09):
But you can get creative. But if you keep going like this,
it's just gonna get Wilder and Wilder.
And if something doesn't work out, you'll be in a tough spot.
But just get out of that. Yeah, debt definitely zaps your
creativity. Yeah, definitely.
So Dave Ramsey endorsed a book. Tell me what it was like
connecting with him. Yeah, man.
Yeah. My dad.
He changed my dad's life years. Ago, my dad came across this

(01:07:30):
stuff, got fully debt free from that.
And then, yeah, I went on Dave Ramsey show a year ago and yeah,
it was, it was, it was so cool talking to him.
He's just like just a hero. You know, what he's done for the
body, the church in a really practical way, which is so
needed. You know, everyone's got sermons
and cool analogies, but he's like, straight down to like
getting people out of, you know,the thing that like, they can't

(01:07:53):
sleep at night about. So it was so cool meeting him.
Just a true inspiration. And yeah, just asked him if he'd
endorse the book. He said yeah.
And I almost passed out. I was like, you sure.
Like, actually. And so it was, it was pretty
cool making. That's awesome.
So I met Dave Ramsey a couple times.
The first time was at an Entree leadership conference and it was
right after we get out of debt and I had quit my job to go do

(01:08:13):
music full time. And I'm talking, I'm telling him
this and you know, we have. This much and.
He was so funny because I said, yeah, and I'm going to be doing
music full time. He's from Nashville, so you
could just tell that at that part, he's like, uh huh, uh huh,
you know? And it was so funny because he,
I don't think he got it, but I then met him at Sean Cannell's
thing, briefly talked to him there.

(01:08:33):
But I was just at Ramsey Solutions and got to meet his
daughter Rachel, who was amazing.
I told her the story. She was cracking up.
She's like, yeah, that doesn't really get the, the whole music
thing. We're in Music City.
And to see how God is using them.
I mean, I, I'd still facilitate FPU at my church every year.
Like I still take people throughthe course every single year.
Yeah. Because I, I, I believe

(01:08:54):
especially those I see those first three baby steps, right?
Like $1000 emergency fund that snowball year debts, three to
six months of living expenses I I think are so clutch for 99.9
99% of people like you get that those three things in order and
you're going to be in a great spot.
Yeah, bro, yeah, that's a big passion of mine.
Just I, I call. Friends every week tell them

(01:09:15):
that I'm like, bro, you got to get investing with inflation
right now. If you're not, it's not just
your standing still, you're going backwards.
Like get out of debt, invest. And yeah, it's, it's, it's
Wildman. It's just people when they hear
the word invest, they get scaredand they get nervous because
they think it's so risky. But the truth is like the stock
market goes like this. It goes down.
But what what happens with my hand?
It's it's constantly going higher than it was before.

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And so people need to, yeah, just like get away from the fear
of that. Don't get risky and throw some
crypto and trade this and do that.
Like there's geniuses that can figure that out, but you just
need something super simple for your family.
And and yeah, man, it's so cool.Like if if the body begins to do
this more like they'll have so much overflow to be generous.
It's amazing. That's one of the things I told
Pastor Will today. I said, man, I know you're the

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most generous guy I've ever probably met, but here's the
truth. The people donated this money
for you, for you, for your family, for your daughter to get
off the street. They donate for you, not for
your cousin in some other state or some friend two years ago
who's going to call you because people are going to hit you up
and probably ask for help. You can help in small ways, but
man, invest the money. Take care of yourself and from

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that place take care of other people.
Come on, you know, come on. There's obviously times where
sacrifice is really powerful, but I think that any time, man,
and I'd, I'd be tripping out personally, if I went to the
doctor and they were bleeding out and working on my leg, I'd
be like, bro, just pat yourself up first, you know?
And so because The thing is, man, true generosity that's
really moving and really powerful is small generosity,

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like, like, like actually buyingsomeone a cup of coffee or
paying for someone's, you know, groceries or whatever.
It's those little things. It's not like, you know, buying
someone 10 grand or, you know, anew car or whatever.
So be practical in those little things.
And, and yeah, it'll, it'll be so cool.
That's dope. OK, tell me about the book.
When is it out? What was the vision behind it?

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And yeah, what do you hope people get from it?
Yeah, man. The book comes out October 21st.
Can't believe I'm saying it. I read like 0 books all of high
school. Yeah, when I, when I read the
Bible, I got into that. But it was, it was definitely a
cool process putting a book out.And The thing is, what I like
about books is the very few I'veread, I've read only like maybe
4 different books, but they've impacted me so much because

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there's no noise. You're not, you know, listening
to music, you're not checking your phone.
You're actually like still and listening so you can receive.
So I was like, man, I'm going totake the time to really put a
book out and do that. Because if people can get this
in them, I think it's really going to help them in a lot of
ways. And so the book man, I wrote
this to like that that 1718 yearold kid who I once was when I

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was talking to you, which they're like, man, Jesus is
probably real, but I want to follow him when I'm older.
I want to have fun now. And I'm like, no, no, no, no,
no. Trust me.
There's nothing better than going to bed and waking up with
a clean conscience, knowing God loves you, knowing you're clean,
knowing you're righteous, knowing he's forgiving you,
having a relationship with him. Like there's nothing better than
that. And then just to show like it

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doesn't just end there, but it'sfriendship with God and how he
can guide you in your marriage, in your career, everything.
Like he truly holds your hand. He doesn't stay in the church
when you head home, He comes with you.
And that revelation of friendship with God, I mean,
it's, it's irreplaceable. Like I would have a void in my
heart if my parents passed away and my wife and everyone else.

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But that boy will be way bigger if I didn't have God in my life.
And that's good. What are you most excited about?
In this next season, you're going into man honestly just
yeah with the. With the book coming out, I
think I'm be hitting up a lot ofchurches, speaking at them and
stuff. So I'm excited about that.
Just like connecting with peopleone-on-one, you know, and in

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spaces like that, sharing my heart.
So I know a lot of people see myvideos.
They're like, oh, it's a kid whogives away 500 bucks.
But my true passion man, is is really giving people the gospel
because all day long you can meet make people feel good or
encouraged or they watch a videoand go, I'm crying.
OMG. But that's great.
But the truth is they still needsalvation.
They still need like like you can have a healed shoulder and

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be crying and all this stuff, But if you still don't know the
Lord, you're going to spend eternity apart from himself.
My heart, man, is really for people to know Jesus and I'm
excited to be in places where I can do that more.
That's awesome, man brother. Thank you so much for sharing,
man. Is there anything else you?
Want people to know before we get out of here, man, I don't
know. Nothing I have to say.
Honestly, I think just watching your show, they'll learn enough
from that man. But it's a pleasure being here.

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And yeah, I just, I'm just hope people felt encouraged from this
conversation to go after the things of God but also use
wisdom. Do both of those and it'll be
amazing. And pre-order the brand new book
undercover. Kindness Jimmy darts man.
Thank you so much for being herethanks man it's been a blessed
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