This episode with Bp. Jake Owensby (@jakeowensby) marks the start of Seaon FOUR. That's right, I'm entering in my fourth year of hosting interview. This season will open with a few interviews with authors; how the season will close will be a, well, let's say: it will be a "self-disclosing" event. Stay Tuned!
In this first episode of season four, I had the honor of talking with my former bishop, Bishop Jake Owensby of the diocese of Western Louisiana of The Episcopal Church. This interview focuses on his most recently published book: Looking for God in Messy Places: A Book about Hope. We get to talk about why hope and why now? Bp. Owensby articulates well where his source of hope comes from, "Being the beloved in the eye of the Lover and that's where my hope comes from. I am deeply loved." It's this being and knowing and experience deep divine belovedness that motivates Bp. Owensby's work in this text as a message to help other people. Principally, Bp. Owensby communicates about our proclamation (either written or preached), "There's one message; it's the resurrection. That's the message. That's it...it's God's mighty work!" And it true; he's not lying. Holding the story of Christ's resurrection in one hand as we walk with people with the other, helping them and standing in solidarity with them, is the key to comprehending what it means to have hope when hope seems pointless even lost. If we weed out this very story of resurrection from our proclamation because it's "not real" or "could never happen"--statements more about our logic and reason and not God's might work--we lose one of the most cataclysmic narrative movements of divine life usurping death's supposed last word. It's here in the encounter with God in the event of faith that, for Bp. Owensby, where "All of [the] ways in which we've allowed or simply had to allow a way of living die and a new way of living emerge, that's resurrection; that's hard work." Chaos, turmoil, fear, death, all of it has been stripped of it's claim to the last word in this divine mighty work of God in the resurrection. Thus, we can have hope that what we see right now isn't all we see. That maybe the mess isn't messy but beautiful because in that mess there is God with us.
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