December 19, 2011 • 32 mins
Host Kelly Jackson takes you on a tour of Muttville Senior Dog Rescue and it's founder, Sherri Franklin. Franklin founded Muttville, based in San Francisco, CA, to help find loving homes for senior pets. Franklin talks to Kelly about Muttville's mission, the organization's big milestone last summer and yes...even an Oprah connection.
Then we travel to France a place where author Sherry Long and her pooch, Chula, know all too well. Ever traveled with your pet? How about to another country? Long has written a delightful book called Dog Trots Globe - To Paris and Provence. For the last three years in April, Chula has globe trotted with her family to France.
Even though Chula is now 11, the senior dog doesn't let anything get in her way of enjoying the City of Lights. Long talks about pet friendly and not-so-pet friendly parts of the country. Tips for flying to another country with a pet and whether pets can actually be bi-lingual!
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Then we travel to France a place where author Sherry Long and her pooch, Chula, know all too well. Ever traveled with your pet? How about to another country? Long has written a delightful book called Dog Trots Globe - To Paris and Provence. For the last three years in April, Chula has globe trotted with her family to France.
Even though Chula is now 11, the senior dog doesn't let anything get in her way of enjoying the City of Lights. Long talks about pet friendly and not-so-pet friendly parts of the country. Tips for flying to another country with a pet and whether pets can actually be bi-lingual!
More details on this episode MP3 Podcast - From Muttville to France on Pet Life Radio
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
You're listening to Petlifradio dot com.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
I'm back.
Speaker 4 (00:20):
Hello everyone, This is Kelly Jackson, host of Sassy Seniors.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
I cannot believe it.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
Has been a little while since I've been on the
air with you, so I'm so happy to be back.
And what a perfect month and week two. Actually continue
my radio show because guess.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
What month it is. It's National Adopt a Senior Pet Month.
So this is our month.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
We love it since we celebrate senior pets every day
of the year. And you know, I couldn't think of
a better guest. We have Sherry Franklin as our guest.
She is founder of Muttville Senior Dog Rescue in San Francisco, California.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Good afternoon, How you doing, Sherry.
Speaker 5 (01:02):
Well, it's good morning to me, but I'm too great.
Speaker 6 (01:06):
That's my glossy.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
It is kind of morning here in Saint Louis too.
I know you're in California, but I guess I'm in
the afternoon mode.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Well, thanks so much for joining us.
Speaker 5 (01:15):
Thank you forgotting me.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
You know I first learned about you. I read about
you over the summer and your organization and how you
had placed or rescued your one thousandth dog, Maxwell, And
you know, I'd lived in California for a couple of
years and you were kind of my neighbor because I
was in Sacramento, and so I wish I would have
(01:37):
met you in person when I lived in Sacramento at
the time.
Speaker 5 (01:41):
I wish you got me too, could have been a
part of Mutville exactly.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
But I still am because I write about you guys
all the time, That's true.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
And it's amazing what you have done in the four
years since you have founded in Muttville. You founded it
back in two thousand and seven and since then, you know,
you've done everything from rescuing dogs from shelters. The city
of San Francisco named Muttville Senior Dog Rescue Day last May.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
And you've really done a lot. But I want to
know what made you when to found Muttville.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
Well, I have seen the dogs too. I mean, you
know who can goss up a gray muzzle. About fifteen
years ago, I started volunteering at the San Francisco SCCA,
and at the time it was still they were still euthanizing.
They were moving towards a policy of trying to save
every animal, but at the time they were so euthanizing,
(02:37):
and it was so hard to watch as I walked
through the tunnels and see you know, old, the old
dogs there, the dogs that kept getting passed up for
adoption because everybody wanted a younger dog or a puppy,
and you know, you'd see these soulful eyes just looking
out at you, and you know, the sadness that came
(02:59):
over me. I became slightly obsessed with, you know, many
of the seniors that came in, and I started, you know,
one of the time taking them home, fixing them up,
fostering them and finding them homes on my own. But
I can only do that, so, you know, only on
a very small scale by myself. So you know, for years,
I kept saying, I'm going to do this, I'm going
(03:20):
to start a senior dog rescue, and it took years
to actually jump in full force and become a nonprofit
and start, you know, building up our coffers so that
we could save a lot more because, as you know,
saving senior dogs can be a little bit more expensive
because you've got to get them fully vetted and take
(03:41):
care of their needs before you drop them out. So
we've been very lucky to have such success at finding
great homes for these senior dogs and really marketing them
is viable, loving devoted dogs that are so easy, And.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
I think that's the thing. You know, there is the
ape and pet side. They recently conducted a pole among
pet owners and of those who adopt pets from shelters.
Can you believe only fifteen percent of those polled considered
adopting a senior And it's just way too low.
Speaker 5 (04:20):
I mean, what's really really sad to me about that
is a lot of these dogs have come from homes
where somebody has become incapacitated or has passed away, and
they're used to getting lots of love and they find themselves,
you know, in a cement cell that's loud and cold
in some cases, and they don't know what's hit them,
(04:42):
and it's it's incredibly sad. And then the other half
of them, the senior dogs, have lived their lives horribly
in backyards somewhere, and then they get too old and
you know, they get dumped at the shelter as well.
So these are the ones that meet the most.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Right so on any given day.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
So you get yours from shelters and also from people
who no longer take care of them are those who
have passed away, right, right.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
We get requests owner surrender requests, and we also get
we work with many shelters all the way down to
San Diego we've been, and all the way up to
the very north of us.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
That's a huge area. Yeah, that's a huge area, I know.
Speaker 5 (05:19):
Yeah, and Sacramento we get, you know, we take dogs
from Sacramento and the Central Valley in California as well.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
So you have a lot of fosters, correct.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
We have about probably seventy five foster homes on our roster,
and about fifty of them are active at any given time.
So we have about sixty dogs available up for adoption
at any given time, and all sizes. You know, we
have one of two point nine pounds and we've got
one hundred and twenty five pound dogs, so pretty much
all over the map.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
If you go on Muttville's website, it's muttville dot org,
and you just look at the dogs and they're just
adorable and like you were saying, halfs so much life
left in them.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
But you also do hospice too, right.
Speaker 5 (06:04):
Yes, we have some dogs that when we bring them
in we're never sure we don't know what kind of
physical condition some of them are in, so you know,
we'll find out that they're in a later stage of
cancer or kidney failure or something. So we have some
homes that actually do hospice care for for our dogs.
We call it fastus sure of a hospice foster situation
(06:28):
where we still take care of the dog's financial veterinary
needs and we have them at homes and people get
it's a calling, you know. I mean, there are people
that just to hospice for our seniors.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
That is amazing because you grow so attached to them,
and you know, they only have so much time with
those dogs. So those takes really special people to be
able to do that.
Speaker 5 (06:50):
Yeah, I think they look at it as an honor
to take care for an animal, you know, at the
end life. So we do believe that when the quality
of life is is no longer, you know, that the
dog that's really not have a quality of life anymore,
we two believe in euthanasia at that point.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
Well, I know that in most big cities there's a
serious problem of overcrowding, and I'm sure that's the situation
in the San Francisco.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
Area right We're lucky less here in San Francisco than
in the you know, the outer areas of you know,
the Central Valley and the Sacramento actually area. In some
of the places where a lot of foreclosures have happened,
it's even more overcrowded.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
So yeah, So your hope for the future, though, Sherry,
is to actually have your own facility to be able
to house these senior dogs.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Right.
Speaker 5 (07:37):
Absolutely, absolutely. We are in the process of signing Elite
on a space now that will really help us be
able to take in more dogs and house them more comfortably.
Though we don't believe in long term shelter environment for
our senior dogs, so we'll still be foster based.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Do you think people's attitudes in spite of the pole
result that I just told you about it, do you
think people's attitudes towards seniors? I think that their attitudes
are changing. And I always say this, people don't even realize.
So many pet parents don't even realize that their dog
is a senior you know, or even want to admit it.
But do you think attitudes are changing about our senior dogs?
Speaker 5 (08:16):
I do. I don't know if it's because we've become
more known but I definitely see an increase in people
with interest in adopting a senior animal, a cat or
a dog, And I think the word is getting out about,
you know, just how sweet and mellow and easy a
senior dog can be as compared to a younger dog.
(08:37):
And frankly, you know, there's a lot of seniors out there.
We run a Seniors for seniors program and a lot
of the senior humans out there really shouldn't be adopting
a puffy, you know, it's too much for them. So,
you know, the wonderful thing is is that we're putting
the word out there, and we're putting out really great
dogs and really making the match and I think, you know,
word of mouth, and hopefully there's other senior rescue organizations
(09:00):
cropping up now, which is so wonderful to see all
over the country.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Absolutely, I totally agree with that.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
And of course, you would not be able to be
able to do what you do without all the supporters
and volunteers that you have. And what I'm impressed with
you guys are always having events.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
You guys keep really busy.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
We keep really busy. We well, first of all, we
have adoption outreach events every weekend too, in different areas
of the Bay Area to show off our dogs, and
people come from, you know, from other areas just to
meet some of them up Bill dogs. So that's really wonderful.
And we really try to engage our community. We engage
(09:40):
our volunteers. We give everybody something to work towards, and
that's saving another life.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Absolutely. Well.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
You know we're gonna wrap up this interview pretty soon,
but I have to mention your appearance on Oprah.
Speaker 5 (09:57):
H Yes, you've no interviews complete with at least a
little bit of an Oprah moment. We were invited onto
her Heroes show, which happened to be the last My
Favorite Things show. So though we were hoping to be
interviewed and be able to speak up on the flight
of senior animals in the US, we didn't get that,
(10:19):
but we got lots of local coverage and we got
great gifts.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Oh did Oprah?
Speaker 5 (10:26):
Yes we did, and I have I'm sporting a new
car from Oprah. Really, yes, I just got it two
three weeks ago. It is a red Beetle and we're
getting it wrapped with the mutfoll logo and a big
thinks OK on it and we'll be cruising around town
with some of our smaller Mutts in the back of
(10:47):
the new Mutmobile.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Oh that is fabous.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
I remember that show and I remember the Beatles because
this is like at the time, it wasn't even available.
Speaker 5 (10:57):
Right, Yeah, I know, it's it's super cute, it's super
fun to drive. I've never had a small car. I've
always had like SUV's and station wagons, so it's really
fun to actually have a little sporty car to drive
around in.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Oh well, that is fabulous.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
Well, since this is National Adopt a Senior Pet Month,
what would you like to say to people, because I
know you have seniors also at home senior dogs? Oh ye,
home many what would you like to say to people
who are considering adoption And as far as adopting a senior, I.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
Say, you know, give a senior a chance. They have
so much love left to give. And as our motto goes,
it's never too late for a new beginning. And that's
our motto now, and it used to be because we
all deserve a happy ending, but really it's just never
too late for a new beginning, and these dogs deserve it,
(11:54):
and they're so they have so much love to give
and they're great in most homes.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
I love that it's never too late for a new beginning.
And you know, even though you are located in San Francisco,
you've received so much attention. You're so well known in
the San Francisco area, but you also serve as a
model for as you were saying, it's good to see
so many other places across the country who are actually starting,
you know, senior dog rescues, and that's so good to
(12:20):
know that we're having fewer seniors sitting in shelters, you know,
waiting for loving homes.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
And for that we thank you. Sherry Franklin.
Speaker 5 (12:29):
Well, thank you for having me on your show. And
I'm really happy you're doing this. This is amazing that
you actually do applaud the Senior Dog.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Well, thank you.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
If anyone would like considering, particularly if you live in
the San Francisco area, please go on their website. It's
just as cute as can be and check out all
of the dogs that are available for adoption. It's Muttville
dot org. Sherry, thanks so much for joining us.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
Thank you for having me.
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Welcome back everyone, Kelly Jackson with Sassy Seniors and we
have another.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
Sherry on our show today.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
This is Sherry Long and she's the author of Dog
Trot's Globe to.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Paris and Provoms.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
Thanks for joining us, Sherry, Sure, I love, love, love
your book because it is about your dog true La
and his experience in France.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Correct.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Yes, she made has made two trips already.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
She is quite the world traveler because this is the
as you said, it's the second time that you have
taken her to France.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
What made you want to do that?
Speaker 1 (17:11):
We just couldn't bear the thought of being away from
her for that long and especially as she was getting older.
We kind of cherished every day with her. So we
did our homework and figured out how to safely get
her on an airplane and over to France with us.
And we were lucky actually that France is so accepting
(17:33):
of dogs, no quarantine or anything like that as areas
in Great Britain.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
Right, well, let's talk about first, we'll talk about the
trip itself, just getting there, because you know, I think
a lot.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Of people are gun shy about.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
Having their their dogs, you know, in the cargo area
of a plane, because you hear so many horror stories.
But you guys have had really good positive experiences, right.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Well, we did, and you know, I do think it's
important to think about that and to question the airline
to find out exactly what their accommodations for the pets are.
And of course, if your dog is small enough, the
dog can go in the cabin with you. But Jula
had had too many of Bob's good dinners and she
(18:18):
was over nineteen pounds. Actually she's a thirty pound shelty,
so she needed to go in the hold with their France,
who was a carrier. We went with. They do have
a special area in cargo separate from the luggage, and
the animals that are traveling are in a climatized cabin
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and carefully loaded in all of that, and those are
important to us. Also thinking about how long the trip is.
NonStop flights are best, and thinking about the time of
the year that you go so that it's not too
hot or too cold. And in fact, some airlines will
(19:01):
have regulations that they won't accept your pet if it
is in one of those extreme climate times.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
And you're saying NonStop flights are best because you don't
want to run the risk if you have, you know,
a connecting flight, if your dog's going.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
To take it on the extplane.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Yes, and just to have to load the dog, you know,
more than once, it just seemed to us to be
better to go for the NonStop flight. But she made
it fine, you know.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
And you also, we were doing our pre interview, you
were saying you gave a great tip to freeze the
water in their little goal.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Yes, several things are important too. About the carrier that
you choose. It needs to be large enough, and you
want to choose the kind of food bolts and water
bowls that fix well to the side of the crate
so that they don't turn over and the dog loses
the food and the water. And water is particularly tricky
(19:58):
because you know, it's losses out when they tried to
load or if you hit bumps and so on, and
so we found that the best way to deal with
that was to freeze the water. And it was good
when we got on the plane that Chila didn't have
to sit on the tarmac or you know, be in
(20:19):
a special area for a very long period of time.
The airline allowed her to stay out in the lobby
with us and then just really about twenty minutes before
the plane was leaving, they boarded her and therefore her
water was still frozen and stayed good for her, so
that she had that did not get dehydrated during the flight.
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That's really the biggest concern is the dog getting dehydrated.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
That's a fabulous tip. I'll have to remember that when
I take my daughter France.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Now.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
So once you guys arrived, you were telling me that,
and in the book you even show that.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
I have to say, Tula does that.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
There are certain areas of friends that are extremely dog friendly. However,
there are some areas.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Not that got well. Actually, I think that the French
love their dogs and they love tourist dogs too, so
she had a good welcome. But in the countryside of
France and sort of outside Paris, she could go just
about anywhere. Obviously, in the restaurants, as you know, they're
(21:27):
famous for bringing dogs a water bowl under the table,
and and the dogs developed good under the table manners
and actually get along pretty well with the dog next door.
So they can go just about everywhere, stay in the hotels,
go in the shops. But in Paris it's a little
(21:49):
bit different in that you know, Paris has a lot
of lovely parks and people want to keep them that way,
and so you'll come up to a park thinking you're
going to run your dog, and of course there's this
dreaded no dog sign on the gage. And in fact
it's actually kind of an art farm to take photos
(22:10):
of the no dog signs that we did, because they're
each a little different and some very clever.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
I saw in the book that was like eight different
no dogs.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Sign Yeah, that's fun. And the Tuilerie Gardens there's one
area that you can run your dog, and there's a
part of the Luxembourg Gardens where you can also take her,
and she visited both of those places, of course, but mostly,
you know, she just walked and walked on the streets.
And in Paris, I think there's what more than two
(22:42):
hundred thousand dogs around, so the streets can become a
little littered, and there's quite a campaign now to be
sure that people pick up after their dogs. And Julia,
who is used to grass, had to learn to do
her business on the hard city street, so she became
a little bit of a Parisian dog.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
Yeah, you know, because I saw a photo where you know,
they had on the actual you know, sidewalk, the sign
where the dog's supposed to go, and looks kind of
like a railing in the sidewalk, not a railing, but
you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Is that actually painted. It's painted on the streets, and
it's just a white arrow trying to point to an
area of the street gutters where I guess what maybe
one hundred years ago, trying to identify where you could
curb your dog. But of course those are now relics
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actually from a time gone by, and now everybody actually
you can get fined fairly steeply if you don't pick
up after your dog. And you can even run into
people hiding behind trees to pop out at you and
be sure you did what you were supposed to.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
Oh my god, what dog detectives? That is too funny.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
Do you find that the French are they different with
their dogs than we are in America or not?
Speaker 1 (24:08):
That I can answer that? Certainly? You you know, you
see a lot of dogs in France and a lot
of people who who love their dogs. But I don't
know really if the attitudes are different.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Okay, So Chula is she bilingual?
Speaker 6 (24:25):
Now?
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Does she understand French?
Speaker 1 (24:29):
She understands a few words, and you know, I think
she definitely understands the word by it because she learned
to love those long loaves of bread. And she even
learned that the market baskets people carry her kind of
right at her level and she could reach in and
pull them out. So she got in trouble a couple
(24:50):
of times doing that. But she's not banned now, she's
not banned.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Her name means in Spanish too, lat and so the
French kind of like that a lot, and they would
change her name over to Jolie, which means pretty in French.
And she began to respond to that name a little bit.
I'm not not sure if she really knew it was
a translation that she did at least look up and
(25:21):
perk up when a French person said that to her.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
Do you think that she knew that she was in
a different country? Could you tell it was, you know,
not in America anymore?
Speaker 1 (25:32):
You know, I think she knew she was definitely someplace.
Knew whether she knew it was a different country or not.
But you know, she got to where she loved to
prance into the restaurants and she would get right under
the table, and she knew she was going to get
a water bowl because they were so nice to do
that all the time. That's one of the I guess
(25:54):
examples of a different French attitude is that you're going
to take care of the people at the time. And
the dog under the table, she definitely knew that, and
she knew she was more out in the countryside. You know,
she's a sheep dog. And one day in the little
village sent for me to Provence where we stay. It
(26:16):
happened to be during Pentecost when the shepherds take their
sheep from the lowlands to the highlands. And so three
thousand sheep come into town and they go around the
ring road of the village three times, and everyone lines
the streets to take pictures and you can imagine the noise.
(26:37):
And we took her down to see that, and it
was her first experience with quite so many farming also,
and we wondered if she would have her hurting instinct,
but she kind of pulled tight on her leash and
ran to get under the cafe table. She met so
(26:58):
many other animals, was able to, you know, kind of
go up to them, and that was certainly different from
being at homes.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Oh. Absolutely, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
Well, the thing I like about this book is that
you know, you have not only beautiful photos, but you
have cute little illustrations with Cheula and the little areas,
and it's just done so beautifully.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
But you also have this it's like a video in
some video in the book.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Yes, the book is both a print book and an
enhanced book that is available through the iBookstore, and in
that way you have the videos actually embedded in the book.
So when you read the chapter about Chewla meeting those
three thousand sheep, you can punch a button and actually
see and hear the sheep and have kind of more
(27:48):
of a multisensory reading experience.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
Now I love that because it's not only great for adults,
but it's great for children to see that too.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Sure, sure, yeah, it's really occasional experience and entertaining. You know,
I love that.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
I wanted people to really experience the French culture, and
of course they're getting Tula's dogs, I view, but there's
also a lot of information about the Eiffel Tower, for example,
how it's painted three shades of brown, and about the
markets and Provence and how they work, and the videos
allow you to actually experience it, and that's something that
(28:29):
I think is the future of books.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Absolutely, I could not agree more.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
And you know, this is National Adopted Senior Pet Month
and you know, just raising awareness about how fabulous our
senior dogs are. I'm sure this was wonderful for Tula
to have the sights and the smells and keeping her
active and kind of share with our listeners about, you know,
(28:55):
keeping your dog, even though he or she may be
a senior, keeping them as active and a vibrant as possible.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Definitely, we took her out with us everywhere. She would
walk down to the markets with us and figured out
where the sausage table was right away, and we'd take
her in the fields and she would run and run
through the lavender and the sunflowers, and you know, I
(29:24):
think those kinds of new experiences and getting to be
outside so much just keeps her happy. And she has
that great shelty smile and shelty prance that some of
your listeners I'm sure are very well aware of. And
she'll be eleven in January and she still has all that.
(29:45):
So it's terrific to see her as a sassy senior
for your program.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
Well, she is sassy and just as pretty as can be.
Where can people buy your book?
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Well, it's tough a California company called oic Books, which
is kind of a play on the if you say
it more like oh I see it kind of fits
in with the idea of multisensory books that you can
see through videos and audio and songs and so on.
(30:20):
And there's a website it's oice hyphen books dot com,
and not only can you buy the print book there,
but there is also a section of extras where you
can see lots more pictures of Chulo, you can learn
more about Paris and Provence, and have pet travel and
(30:40):
so on. So the idea is to not only I
guess offer the book, but also this extras experience through
a website again to be more multisensory. And then it
is on Amazon, the print book and a standard E book.
You can then come to the website to see the
videos that you can't see when it's displayed on the kindle,
(31:05):
even the fire that's come out, and it is in
the Apple iBookstore, and it will be in many others
since the book just came out, but for starters, that's
where your listeners can find the book if they're interested.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
Well, it's a lovely book, and we thank you so
much for joining us.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
And the next.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Trip for the next trip and.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
Your husband, yes, April of Paris, you can't be bed.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Well right, yes, that's right.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Wow, she'll be trotting around the neighborhoods again.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Well, we love your book.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
It's called dog Trot's Globe to Paris and Colvan's Sharing Law.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Thanks so much for joining us.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Thank you, Kelly.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
It was a pleasure, and.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
I want to thank all of our listeners for joining us.
And I promise I will not be a stranger and
I'll feedback very soon with another edition of Sassy Seniors
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Hello everyone, This is Kelly Jackson, host of Sassy Seniors.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
I cannot believe it.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
Has been a little while since I've been on the
air with you, so I'm so happy to be back.
And what a perfect month and week two. Actually continue
my radio show because guess.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
What month it is. It's National Adopt a Senior Pet Month.
So this is our month.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
We love it since we celebrate senior pets every day
of the year. And you know, I couldn't think of
a better guest. We have Sherry Franklin as our guest.
She is founder of Muttville Senior Dog Rescue in San Francisco, California.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Good afternoon, How you doing, Sherry.
Speaker 5 (01:02):
Well, it's good morning to me, but I'm too great.
Speaker 6 (01:06):
That's my glossy.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
It is kind of morning here in Saint Louis too.
I know you're in California, but I guess I'm in
the afternoon mode.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Well, thanks so much for joining us.
Speaker 5 (01:15):
Thank you forgotting me.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
You know I first learned about you. I read about
you over the summer and your organization and how you
had placed or rescued your one thousandth dog, Maxwell, And
you know, I'd lived in California for a couple of
years and you were kind of my neighbor because I
was in Sacramento, and so I wish I would have
(01:37):
met you in person when I lived in Sacramento at
the time.
Speaker 5 (01:41):
I wish you got me too, could have been a
part of Mutville exactly.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
But I still am because I write about you guys
all the time, That's true.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
And it's amazing what you have done in the four
years since you have founded in Muttville. You founded it
back in two thousand and seven and since then, you know,
you've done everything from rescuing dogs from shelters. The city
of San Francisco named Muttville Senior Dog Rescue Day last May.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
And you've really done a lot. But I want to
know what made you when to found Muttville.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
Well, I have seen the dogs too. I mean, you
know who can goss up a gray muzzle. About fifteen
years ago, I started volunteering at the San Francisco SCCA,
and at the time it was still they were still euthanizing.
They were moving towards a policy of trying to save
every animal, but at the time they were so euthanizing,
(02:37):
and it was so hard to watch as I walked
through the tunnels and see you know, old, the old
dogs there, the dogs that kept getting passed up for
adoption because everybody wanted a younger dog or a puppy,
and you know, you'd see these soulful eyes just looking
out at you, and you know, the sadness that came
(02:59):
over me. I became slightly obsessed with, you know, many
of the seniors that came in, and I started, you know,
one of the time taking them home, fixing them up,
fostering them and finding them homes on my own. But
I can only do that, so, you know, only on
a very small scale by myself. So you know, for years,
I kept saying, I'm going to do this, I'm going
(03:20):
to start a senior dog rescue, and it took years
to actually jump in full force and become a nonprofit
and start, you know, building up our coffers so that
we could save a lot more because, as you know,
saving senior dogs can be a little bit more expensive
because you've got to get them fully vetted and take
(03:41):
care of their needs before you drop them out. So
we've been very lucky to have such success at finding
great homes for these senior dogs and really marketing them
is viable, loving devoted dogs that are so easy, And.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
I think that's the thing. You know, there is the
ape and pet side. They recently conducted a pole among
pet owners and of those who adopt pets from shelters.
Can you believe only fifteen percent of those polled considered
adopting a senior And it's just way too low.
Speaker 5 (04:20):
I mean, what's really really sad to me about that
is a lot of these dogs have come from homes
where somebody has become incapacitated or has passed away, and
they're used to getting lots of love and they find themselves,
you know, in a cement cell that's loud and cold
in some cases, and they don't know what's hit them,
(04:42):
and it's it's incredibly sad. And then the other half
of them, the senior dogs, have lived their lives horribly
in backyards somewhere, and then they get too old and
you know, they get dumped at the shelter as well.
So these are the ones that meet the most.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Right so on any given day.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
So you get yours from shelters and also from people
who no longer take care of them are those who
have passed away, right, right.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
We get requests owner surrender requests, and we also get
we work with many shelters all the way down to
San Diego we've been, and all the way up to
the very north of us.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
That's a huge area. Yeah, that's a huge area, I know.
Speaker 5 (05:19):
Yeah, and Sacramento we get, you know, we take dogs
from Sacramento and the Central Valley in California as well.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
So you have a lot of fosters, correct.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
We have about probably seventy five foster homes on our roster,
and about fifty of them are active at any given time.
So we have about sixty dogs available up for adoption
at any given time, and all sizes. You know, we
have one of two point nine pounds and we've got
one hundred and twenty five pound dogs, so pretty much
all over the map.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
If you go on Muttville's website, it's muttville dot org,
and you just look at the dogs and they're just
adorable and like you were saying, halfs so much life
left in them.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
But you also do hospice too, right.
Speaker 5 (06:04):
Yes, we have some dogs that when we bring them
in we're never sure we don't know what kind of
physical condition some of them are in, so you know,
we'll find out that they're in a later stage of
cancer or kidney failure or something. So we have some
homes that actually do hospice care for for our dogs.
We call it fastus sure of a hospice foster situation
(06:28):
where we still take care of the dog's financial veterinary
needs and we have them at homes and people get
it's a calling, you know. I mean, there are people
that just to hospice for our seniors.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
That is amazing because you grow so attached to them,
and you know, they only have so much time with
those dogs. So those takes really special people to be
able to do that.
Speaker 5 (06:50):
Yeah, I think they look at it as an honor
to take care for an animal, you know, at the
end life. So we do believe that when the quality
of life is is no longer, you know, that the
dog that's really not have a quality of life anymore,
we two believe in euthanasia at that point.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
Well, I know that in most big cities there's a
serious problem of overcrowding, and I'm sure that's the situation
in the San Francisco.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
Area right We're lucky less here in San Francisco than
in the you know, the outer areas of you know,
the Central Valley and the Sacramento actually area. In some
of the places where a lot of foreclosures have happened,
it's even more overcrowded.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
So yeah, So your hope for the future, though, Sherry,
is to actually have your own facility to be able
to house these senior dogs.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Right.
Speaker 5 (07:37):
Absolutely, absolutely. We are in the process of signing Elite
on a space now that will really help us be
able to take in more dogs and house them more comfortably.
Though we don't believe in long term shelter environment for
our senior dogs, so we'll still be foster based.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Do you think people's attitudes in spite of the pole
result that I just told you about it, do you
think people's attitudes towards seniors? I think that their attitudes
are changing. And I always say this, people don't even realize.
So many pet parents don't even realize that their dog
is a senior you know, or even want to admit it.
But do you think attitudes are changing about our senior dogs?
Speaker 5 (08:16):
I do. I don't know if it's because we've become
more known but I definitely see an increase in people
with interest in adopting a senior animal, a cat or
a dog, And I think the word is getting out about,
you know, just how sweet and mellow and easy a
senior dog can be as compared to a younger dog.
(08:37):
And frankly, you know, there's a lot of seniors out there.
We run a Seniors for seniors program and a lot
of the senior humans out there really shouldn't be adopting
a puffy, you know, it's too much for them. So,
you know, the wonderful thing is is that we're putting
the word out there, and we're putting out really great
dogs and really making the match and I think, you know,
word of mouth, and hopefully there's other senior rescue organizations
(09:00):
cropping up now, which is so wonderful to see all
over the country.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Absolutely, I totally agree with that.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
And of course, you would not be able to be
able to do what you do without all the supporters
and volunteers that you have. And what I'm impressed with
you guys are always having events.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
You guys keep really busy.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
We keep really busy. We well, first of all, we
have adoption outreach events every weekend too, in different areas
of the Bay Area to show off our dogs, and
people come from, you know, from other areas just to
meet some of them up Bill dogs. So that's really wonderful.
And we really try to engage our community. We engage
(09:40):
our volunteers. We give everybody something to work towards, and
that's saving another life.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Absolutely. Well.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
You know we're gonna wrap up this interview pretty soon,
but I have to mention your appearance on Oprah.
Speaker 5 (09:57):
H Yes, you've no interviews complete with at least a
little bit of an Oprah moment. We were invited onto
her Heroes show, which happened to be the last My
Favorite Things show. So though we were hoping to be
interviewed and be able to speak up on the flight
of senior animals in the US, we didn't get that,
(10:19):
but we got lots of local coverage and we got
great gifts.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Oh did Oprah?
Speaker 5 (10:26):
Yes we did, and I have I'm sporting a new
car from Oprah. Really, yes, I just got it two
three weeks ago. It is a red Beetle and we're
getting it wrapped with the mutfoll logo and a big
thinks OK on it and we'll be cruising around town
with some of our smaller Mutts in the back of
(10:47):
the new Mutmobile.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Oh that is fabous.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
I remember that show and I remember the Beatles because
this is like at the time, it wasn't even available.
Speaker 5 (10:57):
Right, Yeah, I know, it's it's super cute, it's super
fun to drive. I've never had a small car. I've
always had like SUV's and station wagons, so it's really
fun to actually have a little sporty car to drive
around in.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Oh well, that is fabulous.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
Well, since this is National Adopt a Senior Pet Month,
what would you like to say to people, because I
know you have seniors also at home senior dogs? Oh ye,
home many what would you like to say to people
who are considering adoption And as far as adopting a senior, I.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
Say, you know, give a senior a chance. They have
so much love left to give. And as our motto goes,
it's never too late for a new beginning. And that's
our motto now, and it used to be because we
all deserve a happy ending, but really it's just never
too late for a new beginning, and these dogs deserve it,
(11:54):
and they're so they have so much love to give
and they're great in most homes.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
I love that it's never too late for a new beginning.
And you know, even though you are located in San Francisco,
you've received so much attention. You're so well known in
the San Francisco area, but you also serve as a
model for as you were saying, it's good to see
so many other places across the country who are actually starting,
you know, senior dog rescues, and that's so good to
(12:20):
know that we're having fewer seniors sitting in shelters, you know,
waiting for loving homes.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
And for that we thank you. Sherry Franklin.
Speaker 5 (12:29):
Well, thank you for having me on your show. And
I'm really happy you're doing this. This is amazing that
you actually do applaud the Senior Dog.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Well, thank you.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
If anyone would like considering, particularly if you live in
the San Francisco area, please go on their website. It's
just as cute as can be and check out all
of the dogs that are available for adoption. It's Muttville
dot org. Sherry, thanks so much for joining us.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
Thank you for having me.
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Welcome back everyone, Kelly Jackson with Sassy Seniors and we
have another.
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Sherry on our show today.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
This is Sherry Long and she's the author of Dog
Trot's Globe to.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Paris and Provoms.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
Thanks for joining us, Sherry, Sure, I love, love, love
your book because it is about your dog true La
and his experience in France.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Correct.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Yes, she made has made two trips already.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
She is quite the world traveler because this is the
as you said, it's the second time that you have
taken her to France.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
What made you want to do that?
Speaker 1 (17:11):
We just couldn't bear the thought of being away from
her for that long and especially as she was getting older.
We kind of cherished every day with her. So we
did our homework and figured out how to safely get
her on an airplane and over to France with us.
And we were lucky actually that France is so accepting
(17:33):
of dogs, no quarantine or anything like that as areas
in Great Britain.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
Right, well, let's talk about first, we'll talk about the
trip itself, just getting there, because you know, I think
a lot.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Of people are gun shy about.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
Having their their dogs, you know, in the cargo area
of a plane, because you hear so many horror stories.
But you guys have had really good positive experiences, right.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Well, we did, and you know, I do think it's
important to think about that and to question the airline
to find out exactly what their accommodations for the pets are.
And of course, if your dog is small enough, the
dog can go in the cabin with you. But Jula
had had too many of Bob's good dinners and she
(18:18):
was over nineteen pounds. Actually she's a thirty pound shelty,
so she needed to go in the hold with their France,
who was a carrier. We went with. They do have
a special area in cargo separate from the luggage, and
the animals that are traveling are in a climatized cabin
(18:41):
and carefully loaded in all of that, and those are
important to us. Also thinking about how long the trip is.
NonStop flights are best, and thinking about the time of
the year that you go so that it's not too
hot or too cold. And in fact, some airlines will
(19:01):
have regulations that they won't accept your pet if it
is in one of those extreme climate times.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
And you're saying NonStop flights are best because you don't
want to run the risk if you have, you know,
a connecting flight, if your dog's going.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
To take it on the extplane.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Yes, and just to have to load the dog, you know,
more than once, it just seemed to us to be
better to go for the NonStop flight. But she made
it fine, you know.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
And you also, we were doing our pre interview, you
were saying you gave a great tip to freeze the
water in their little goal.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Yes, several things are important too. About the carrier that
you choose. It needs to be large enough, and you
want to choose the kind of food bolts and water
bowls that fix well to the side of the crate
so that they don't turn over and the dog loses
the food and the water. And water is particularly tricky
(19:58):
because you know, it's losses out when they tried to
load or if you hit bumps and so on, and
so we found that the best way to deal with
that was to freeze the water. And it was good
when we got on the plane that Chila didn't have
to sit on the tarmac or you know, be in
(20:19):
a special area for a very long period of time.
The airline allowed her to stay out in the lobby
with us and then just really about twenty minutes before
the plane was leaving, they boarded her and therefore her
water was still frozen and stayed good for her, so
that she had that did not get dehydrated during the flight.
(20:40):
That's really the biggest concern is the dog getting dehydrated.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
That's a fabulous tip. I'll have to remember that when
I take my daughter France.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Now.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
So once you guys arrived, you were telling me that,
and in the book you even show that.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
I have to say, Tula does that.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
There are certain areas of friends that are extremely dog friendly. However,
there are some areas.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Not that got well. Actually, I think that the French
love their dogs and they love tourist dogs too, so
she had a good welcome. But in the countryside of
France and sort of outside Paris, she could go just
about anywhere. Obviously, in the restaurants, as you know, they're
(21:27):
famous for bringing dogs a water bowl under the table,
and and the dogs developed good under the table manners
and actually get along pretty well with the dog next door.
So they can go just about everywhere, stay in the hotels,
go in the shops. But in Paris it's a little
(21:49):
bit different in that you know, Paris has a lot
of lovely parks and people want to keep them that way,
and so you'll come up to a park thinking you're
going to run your dog, and of course there's this
dreaded no dog sign on the gage. And in fact
it's actually kind of an art farm to take photos
(22:10):
of the no dog signs that we did, because they're
each a little different and some very clever.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
I saw in the book that was like eight different
no dogs.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Sign Yeah, that's fun. And the Tuilerie Gardens there's one
area that you can run your dog, and there's a
part of the Luxembourg Gardens where you can also take her,
and she visited both of those places, of course, but mostly,
you know, she just walked and walked on the streets.
And in Paris, I think there's what more than two
(22:42):
hundred thousand dogs around, so the streets can become a
little littered, and there's quite a campaign now to be
sure that people pick up after their dogs. And Julia,
who is used to grass, had to learn to do
her business on the hard city street, so she became
a little bit of a Parisian dog.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
Yeah, you know, because I saw a photo where you know,
they had on the actual you know, sidewalk, the sign
where the dog's supposed to go, and looks kind of
like a railing in the sidewalk, not a railing, but
you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Is that actually painted. It's painted on the streets, and
it's just a white arrow trying to point to an
area of the street gutters where I guess what maybe
one hundred years ago, trying to identify where you could
curb your dog. But of course those are now relics
(23:36):
actually from a time gone by, and now everybody actually
you can get fined fairly steeply if you don't pick
up after your dog. And you can even run into
people hiding behind trees to pop out at you and
be sure you did what you were supposed to.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
Oh my god, what dog detectives? That is too funny.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
Do you find that the French are they different with
their dogs than we are in America or not?
Speaker 1 (24:08):
That I can answer that? Certainly? You you know, you
see a lot of dogs in France and a lot
of people who who love their dogs. But I don't
know really if the attitudes are different.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Okay, So Chula is she bilingual?
Speaker 6 (24:25):
Now?
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Does she understand French?
Speaker 1 (24:29):
She understands a few words, and you know, I think
she definitely understands the word by it because she learned
to love those long loaves of bread. And she even
learned that the market baskets people carry her kind of
right at her level and she could reach in and
pull them out. So she got in trouble a couple
(24:50):
of times doing that. But she's not banned now, she's
not banned.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Her name means in Spanish too, lat and so the
French kind of like that a lot, and they would
change her name over to Jolie, which means pretty in French.
And she began to respond to that name a little bit.
I'm not not sure if she really knew it was
a translation that she did at least look up and
(25:21):
perk up when a French person said that to her.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
Do you think that she knew that she was in
a different country? Could you tell it was, you know,
not in America anymore?
Speaker 1 (25:32):
You know, I think she knew she was definitely someplace.
Knew whether she knew it was a different country or not.
But you know, she got to where she loved to
prance into the restaurants and she would get right under
the table, and she knew she was going to get
a water bowl because they were so nice to do
that all the time. That's one of the I guess
(25:54):
examples of a different French attitude is that you're going
to take care of the people at the time. And
the dog under the table, she definitely knew that, and
she knew she was more out in the countryside. You know,
she's a sheep dog. And one day in the little
village sent for me to Provence where we stay. It
(26:16):
happened to be during Pentecost when the shepherds take their
sheep from the lowlands to the highlands. And so three
thousand sheep come into town and they go around the
ring road of the village three times, and everyone lines
the streets to take pictures and you can imagine the noise.
(26:37):
And we took her down to see that, and it
was her first experience with quite so many farming also,
and we wondered if she would have her hurting instinct,
but she kind of pulled tight on her leash and
ran to get under the cafe table. She met so
(26:58):
many other animals, was able to, you know, kind of
go up to them, and that was certainly different from
being at homes.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Oh. Absolutely, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
Well, the thing I like about this book is that
you know, you have not only beautiful photos, but you
have cute little illustrations with Cheula and the little areas,
and it's just done so beautifully.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
But you also have this it's like a video in
some video in the book.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Yes, the book is both a print book and an
enhanced book that is available through the iBookstore, and in
that way you have the videos actually embedded in the book.
So when you read the chapter about Chewla meeting those
three thousand sheep, you can punch a button and actually
see and hear the sheep and have kind of more
(27:48):
of a multisensory reading experience.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
Now I love that because it's not only great for adults,
but it's great for children to see that too.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Sure, sure, yeah, it's really occasional experience and entertaining. You know,
I love that.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
I wanted people to really experience the French culture, and
of course they're getting Tula's dogs, I view, but there's
also a lot of information about the Eiffel Tower, for example,
how it's painted three shades of brown, and about the
markets and Provence and how they work, and the videos
allow you to actually experience it, and that's something that
(28:29):
I think is the future of books.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Absolutely, I could not agree more.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
And you know, this is National Adopted Senior Pet Month
and you know, just raising awareness about how fabulous our
senior dogs are. I'm sure this was wonderful for Tula
to have the sights and the smells and keeping her
active and kind of share with our listeners about, you know,
(28:55):
keeping your dog, even though he or she may be
a senior, keeping them as active and a vibrant as possible.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Definitely, we took her out with us everywhere. She would
walk down to the markets with us and figured out
where the sausage table was right away, and we'd take
her in the fields and she would run and run
through the lavender and the sunflowers, and you know, I
(29:24):
think those kinds of new experiences and getting to be
outside so much just keeps her happy. And she has
that great shelty smile and shelty prance that some of
your listeners I'm sure are very well aware of. And
she'll be eleven in January and she still has all that.
(29:45):
So it's terrific to see her as a sassy senior
for your program.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
Well, she is sassy and just as pretty as can be.
Where can people buy your book?
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Well, it's tough a California company called oic Books, which
is kind of a play on the if you say
it more like oh I see it kind of fits
in with the idea of multisensory books that you can
see through videos and audio and songs and so on.
(30:20):
And there's a website it's oice hyphen books dot com,
and not only can you buy the print book there,
but there is also a section of extras where you
can see lots more pictures of Chulo, you can learn
more about Paris and Provence, and have pet travel and
(30:40):
so on. So the idea is to not only I
guess offer the book, but also this extras experience through
a website again to be more multisensory. And then it
is on Amazon, the print book and a standard E book.
You can then come to the website to see the
videos that you can't see when it's displayed on the kindle,
(31:05):
even the fire that's come out, and it is in
the Apple iBookstore, and it will be in many others
since the book just came out, but for starters, that's
where your listeners can find the book if they're interested.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
Well, it's a lovely book, and we thank you so
much for joining us.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
And the next.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Trip for the next trip and.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
Your husband, yes, April of Paris, you can't be bed.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Well right, yes, that's right.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Wow, she'll be trotting around the neighborhoods again.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Well, we love your book.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
It's called dog Trot's Globe to Paris and Colvan's Sharing Law.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Thanks so much for joining us.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Thank you, Kelly.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
It was a pleasure, and.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
I want to thank all of our listeners for joining us.
And I promise I will not be a stranger and
I'll feedback very soon with another edition of Sassy Seniors
Take care of Everyone.
Speaker 7 (32:06):
Let's Talk Pets every week on demand only on petlife
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