July 2, 2025 • 42 mins
Discover how Crystal and Robert Sikes approach the emotional challenges and daily realities of pregnancy on the Savage Perspective Podcast. In episode 793, Crystal shares her experiences preparing for their new arrival, discussing family support, fitness, work-life balance, and mindset. This episode offers practical insights into navigating personal and professional growth during this unique season.
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Chapters:
0:00 - Preparing for Birth: Therapy, Pain & The Last Days
3:15 - Family Support & Waiting for Baby Hazen
7:15 - Fitness Routine, Family Time & Weekend Highlights
10:22 - Third Trimester Changes & Medical Updates
13:01 - Mindset Shifts, Birth Plans & Setting Expectations
16:41 - Big Brother Anticipation & Sibling Prep
18:28 - Gratitude, Family Reflections & Parenting Philosophy
23:02 - Building Skills: Teaching Kids Through Real Life
29:39 - Health Updates: Tests, Baby Position & Group B Strep
32:38 - Looking Ahead: Parenting Two, Workouts, & Home Changes
34:19 - Comparing Pregnancies & Chiropractic Insights
36:54 - Approaching Labor: Birth Signs & Emotional Readiness
37:42 - Exploring Birth Work: Doula Dreams & Women’s Support
41:25 - Celebrating Strength, Motherhood & Family Bond
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I work with a pelvic floor therapist, but it's not because
I have any issues. It's just like they're so
informative of helping you to gather information from your
body of like what's going to work best for you.
We worked on like even pushing positions like what feels better
and she had me try a couple different things and like I
found out that like one positionworks better than the other for
(00:21):
me that I would have never put myself in.
You know, like I've said in the other podcast, like this
pregnancy has been so different just in general, like how I
feel, how my body feels and boy pregnancy #2 really smacked me
in the face. I started having like some
pelvic pain and like super tightligaments and that was like
(00:44):
pulling up on my pelvic bone like on the left side just like
feeling like I was going to break in two.
But but the chiropractor has changed my life.
You were at the farmers market. Sure was did.
You find anything good? Did you get anything?
No, it was about half of the quarter of the size of normally
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that is on Saturdays, so. Today's Tuesday so I would
expect it to be a smaller run. Is good stuff though still.
Yeah, vegetables. Flowers.
How you feeling, babe? We're going to do a real time
podcast. We're going to deliver the baby
(01:26):
on the table and we're going. To in Robert's dreams.
The entire operation, the whole experience is going to be
podcasted, broadcasted live as you're giving birth in audio and
video format. That is incorrect.
Not having him today is your duedate though.
Technically. 40 weeks on the nose today and there's still no
(01:50):
baby. How you feeling babe?
Tired of holding him in. Tired of holding him in.
I think I'm get sympathy pregnancy vibes going.
Like I feel tired too. That was going on for
Synchronized. Today's the only day that I've
felt really tired so. You sleep OK last night?
Yeah, I tried starting Rigel offin his bed.
(02:11):
No. You, you were scooted over a
lot. We were scooted over a lot and
he was initially in his little side bed thing but he kept
moving closer and closer to me until he was on.
Top of you? Yeah, on top.
He's got he, he sleeps horizontally too.
Like he doesn't. Oh yeah, he, he kicks me.
Your feet, His feet are like. In you.
(02:32):
Yeah. Yeah, they're like on my belly.
Robert and I switched switched sides of the bed.
Yeah, so we're we're getting acclimated to it, but Hazen
shouldn't be here any day now. Excited to meet this little
munch. He's been kicking today quite a
bit. Normal.
Normal amount of kicking. Any other contractions?
Anything new? Yeah, I've had contractions all
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day. Like more so than you normally
do on a day-to-day basis. Depends on the day.
There's a couple days. There's been a couple days where
I'm like, I am having a baby today and then and that like
today is like one of those like I have contractions, but they,
and they've been all morning. I woke up at 4:00 and they've
been all day. It's what, 11:15?
(03:17):
So just feels like maybe like prodromal labour.
When you say that, is it pre drama?
Prodromal, dromal, DROMAL prodromal.
Interesting. Yeah, we have to paint the fence
again tonight, I guess. Huh.
It's code. We have young kiddo in the room.
(03:38):
That's. That's code for other things to
get the contraction stirred up. Painting the fence.
Yep, Yep. But I'm excited to meet this
guy. Me too.
It honestly hadn't hit me yet. Probably like it's hit you, but
I think it's hitting me more because I think, I think, I
think it's it's top of mind now,whereas it wasn't top of mind
(04:03):
last week. Yeah, well, I feel like this is
the first week that you actuallytook yourself off the schedule,
even though you still have things scheduled.
It's like the it's they're excused scheduled things like,
hey, we can totally do this. But if my wife is having a baby,
I can't. But like other than that, you
didn't schedule anything. So I feel like this is the first
week where you've been able to like somewhat breathe.
(04:25):
And I think also your sister being here, yes, was like a very
tangible thing of like, OK, she's here to help with Rigel
when the baby comes. So the fact that she's here
means that we're also about to have a baby.
Yeah, she was supposed to show up today and she got here on
Saturday night because I asked her to come early because I was
like, I can't relax. And I lost a little bit of my
(04:51):
plug on Monday. And so that was like, oh, are
things going to move faster? Are they going to not?
He's like, you can lose that andnot go into labor for weeks, but
you could also go in a couple hours.
And so I just was, I think I wasjust getting a little anxious
and was like, if she's not doinganything, I'm going to see if
she can come out early. So she's got here Saturday late,
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late night. And today is the day that she
should have been here. And I'm like, I still haven't
had a psycho bad. We paid more money for her to
come early. She left her family to be here.
She brought my niece, but she still left two of her sons and
her husband. Yeah.
And he hasn't come yet. But we have time.
We have. He has time.
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So what happens if he does? He pulls a range when he's two
weeks late. Like, is she still going to be
here? I think so, or we'll just ask
someone else to come. Because she's a teacher.
And when does? She's out for the summer.
She's out for the summer, so she's pretty flexible.
Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, very crazy.
But it is like really relieving to have someone in our house
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that. You trust you're comfortable.
With yeah and like gets me and like we're on the same page like
we can just hang out all day. We.
I haven't seen her in a year anda half and so like we're just
able to like hang out until he comes, which is so awesome for
me. And she hasn't been here since
2020, I guess. Yeah, because she said she
(06:19):
hadn't seen the building since. It was like just getting.
Motivated like yeah. Studs on the wall.
So that's kind of crazy. Has been pretty cool.
I feel like her or Carolina Rigel been getting along good.
Oh yeah. Is is Rigel like wearing
Carolina down a little bit? I think just like, you know,
Caroline is 9, so I think just like a little bit of just
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travelling, being in a new place.
It's really hot here, it's humid.
Neither one of them are used to it.
Rigel loves being outside. I've been wanting to go for
walks. So I think like all of it is a
little bit tiring, but we're doing such relaxed things that I
think it's fine. But Rigel is, he's a little high
energy, but they're both doing great.
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Yeah, Rigel loves her, that's for sure.
Yes, he does. He sure does.
He is off his rocker playing with her.
What are they doing right now inthe gym?
I. Think so.
Doing some curls, probably curlsfor the girls.
He's showing off for him. He worked out with us.
On what? What day do we all work out on
Saturday? Yeah, Saturday.
That was honestly, I've been thinking about this.
That was like a perfect day. Yeah, it was pretty great.
(07:26):
That was like a like, we woke up, I got my client work done,
we had coffee on the porch, watch the sunrise, and then we
loaded up Rigel and Diesel. We went to the park for a walk,
the trail, the scenic nature trailer.
All got chigger bites. Great.
I didn't get chigger. Bites.
Yeah, Robert doesn't get by anything.
But but y'all got chigger bites and then we went to workout.
(07:49):
We had a good workout. I finished my workout, went
heavy on sumo deads. But like normally when Diesel
and rides are in the gym, my workouts kind of black luster.
But workout was a solid workout and took Diesel to the hardware
store, picked up a blowtorch, came back home, then what'd we?
Do put write it down for a nap. I think you started a fire.
(08:15):
We did paint the fence. Start a fire.
Yeah, you do. No, it's our farm.
You didn't. No, it's not supposed to rain
for a week. I mowed.
I did mow. Yeah, mowed.
And then, yeah, it was just. Oh yeah, and you just like you.
We just like cleaned up the house and you pressure washed
and mowed a little bit and some outdoor stuff.
(08:38):
We just spent some time outside as a family and getting stuff
done it. Was like a super relaxing,
productive, enjoyable day like that's a.
Perfect. It felt like we spent the whole
day together, too. Yeah.
And usually when we do that, like when we are like, let's
spend time like this is a familyweek, weekend, blah, blah, blah.
It feels like that we go to townlike Fayetteville and we'll go
(09:00):
somewhere, pick something up or do something and then it's like
half of our days gone. So then we're like, oh man, we
haven't even done anything all day.
But I think by like starting offwith like a hike and a workout.
Oh, we went to that little localmarket too.
And like, I think just by starting it off, I like hike the
little market, a workout like itjust start felt like we started
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the day off like with a bang family.
Yeah, I like taking diesel places.
Yeah, it's a good boy. He's a big dog, 140 LB Italian
Mastiff Connie Corso Brindle. He just looks intimidating.
He's a big puppy dog, but looks intimidating.
But I like walking into a place,you know, with him, you just
(09:45):
like command the room. It's kind of cool.
But yet like I walked into O'reilly's to get some one of
the like fix a flat stuff and I'm not sure like what are the
rules on certain establishments for having dogs?
You just have to ask. Usually if it doesn't have food
they don't really care. Yeah, but.
Like he's not a service dog, obviously.
Yeah. So like would I be able to walk
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into Academy with him? Probably.
Maybe. I don't know.
I have no idea what the rules are.
All I know is Lowe's. In Home Depot, Lowe's in Home
Depot, hardwarf storage is safe.Yeah, that's that was good.
So what? What are the big highlights of
the phase three? 3rd trimester, yeah, you could
(10:29):
have phase three, I mean Robert thing, competition prep.
Course mode, yeah. So not phase three, third
trimester. This is our third trimester
podcast. What were the big updates for
trimester 2? Second trimester.
You started feeling happy. A boy.
Yeah, we knew. We learned the sex.
(10:50):
You just been like, we're in theevery single week.
You have a midwife appointment phase.
Yes. So every single week.
It was like, but with the third trimester you go every other
week and then the last four weeks is every week.
But my schedule got messed up, so I've been going every week
for the last five weeks. And then we had the doula
(11:10):
appointment. So we met with the doulas twice
now 3 * 3 times. And then you've been going like
non-stop chiropractic, pelvic floor therapy, what else?
Massage. Random massage.
It's like all kinds of prep work.
Your workouts have shifted a bit.
You're not doing your bodybuilding style lifts so much
(11:32):
as you are stretching. Mobility work?
Yeah. Exercise balls?
Rebozoing. Yeah, I'm like a super tight
person. Like I hold my, like, I hold
like my pelvic floor and just like my muscles, my glutes, like
I hold them really tight. And so something I've been
really working on is just relaxing.
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And it's really hard to relax when you're lifting, but it's
important to keep lifting so that you're, you continue to
strengthen the muscles that you do need for like labor, like
birth labor, delivery, but also relaxing your muscles enough to
allow a baby to come out. So it's been a little, yeah,
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it's been a little different than what I did with Rigel.
I just, I feel like I've been, I've had more of a focus of
like, this is my intention rightnow.
This is I'm prepping for this, you know, and that's so we.
Did a lot of prep work for Rigel.
I did, yeah. But I feel like now like having
to have the emergency C-section with him, it's like we're taking
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no. I feel like it's a more narrowed
approach now. Like before it was like, I am
prepping for this and now it's like I am, I am working on this
specific thing with a specific blah, blah, blah, working with a
public floor therapist, working with the, you know, this, that
and the other. And I honestly like I'm, I work
with a pelvic floor therapist, but it's not because I have any
(13:00):
issues. It's just like they're so
informative of helping you to gather information from your
body of like what's going to work best for you.
We worked on like even pushing positions like what feels
better? And she had me try a couple
different things. And like I found out that like
one position works better than the other for me that I would
(13:20):
have never put myself in, you know, So it's just, it's just
interesting. Highly recommend if you haven't
seen a public floor therapist that you do see one in pregnancy
leading up to labor and deliveryand stuff, especially if you're,
I mean not especially, but like if you're planning to do things
naturally too, that could be really helpful if you're, if you
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have an epidural, it's a little harder to move, but they can
still help you out a lot with like navigating tools that you
can use if you are if you have an epidural, but.
And you've been totally cool with everything as far as you
know, going through the midwife and it being in the hospital
setting. The only thing I don't like
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about that is they won't let me use my Obsidian rock to cut the
cord. Bill Schindler sent me a block
of Obsidian that I was going to have Rigel nap piece off of, and
that was going to be the Stone Age tool that we used to cut the
cord. So that's not cool.
But other than that, everything with the midwife in the hospital
setting has been pretty much in line with our preferences.
(14:23):
That's good. We're going to have the midwife
in the room, the doula in the room, one of the two, right?
Just one birth photographer and then you and I and then nurses
intermingling and then only a doctor if there's any
complications, correct? So that'll be good.
That'll be good. It's a pretty big room.
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We wouldn't looked at it if we're in that room.
Yeah. I mean, the other ones are
probably not that that much smaller than, but yeah.
So that'd be good. What are we going to have for a
celebratory meal afterwards? I don't know.
I actually tried to look up likerestaurants local and I didn't
get very far because I got distracted, but I don't.
(15:05):
Know it's in Fort Smith, so it'snot like we can get any of the
normal Fayetteville. Places there's got to be like a
local restaurant. Because they want you there
overnight, right? Like so we'll have the baby and
depending on when it's like a full 24 hours after that. 24
hours, yeah. But if I have them like in the
middle of the night, they'll keep us that night and then the
next night. So I'll try to get out as fast
(15:27):
as I can. That's my that's my goal.
They let us go early with Rigel.Are you going to want Rigel to
come like in that 24 hour block?Yeah, so Heather could pick us
up a steak and bring it. Well, I was saying we'd just
order something so that way whenshe shows up, we can just hang
out with Rigel and then we can have a hot meal another time.
(15:50):
Because it depends. Like I might have a baby at 9:00
in the morning and say I am starving for breakfast, go get
me something. You know, we could just order
something from Ubereats or whatever.
Yeah. And they?
Give you a steak at the hospitaltoo.
They do, they give you a steak, like a steak dinner to like
celebrate your baby. But like, how good is the steak
(16:13):
hospital steak? You know, our last one was
terrible. It's at a different hospital
this time, but I imagine they'rethe same steaks.
This hospital probably got a worse steak honestly.
Honestly, probably they do because the last hospital was a
specialty hospital and it was like everything was very fancy.
Except a steak. Except for the steak, yeah.
Yeah, let's not do that. We'll just go somewhere for food
(16:34):
or have something ordered in. Yeah.
But yeah, I'm, I'm really excited to see what Rigel's like
with Hazen. Like, I think I'm more excited
about that than anything else. Yeah, I'm super excited.
Because like, I was talking to Greg about this in the work
podcast, but Rigel's all like, Iwant to play with him with my
toys. I got my old toys he can play
with. I'm going to read him a book.
We're going to play in the sandbox.
And I'm like, he's going to be apuddle of flesh for a little
(16:56):
while, buddy. But he does know that because I
have friends that have babies. And so he knows because he says,
oh, Hazen won't be able to grab things.
Yeah, I'm like, yeah, you're right.
Like maybe your finger, you know, like, he does know that he
won't be able to do much. He knows that he won't eat food.
He'll, you know, have mom's milk.
And like, he does know that he'sgoing to be a baby.
(17:17):
But I always just say like, yeah, when he gets a little
bigger than when he learns to sit up, when he learns to walk,
Like, so he knows that he can't walk.
He can't sit. He can't, you know, we just have
to hold him for a little while. And yeah, you.
Think he's going to look more like me or you?
I don't know, I have no idea. The eye color is the one that
(17:37):
changes frequently, right? Yeah, Rigel's never did.
Yeah. But like, it's often that
they're born with blue eyes and then that typically shifts.
Yeah, like they it's usually like a lighter color and then
they. The hair color too, I guess they
also, yeah. Rigel, their hair, usually their
hair falls out and then they getwhatever hair color is next.
Yeah. Yeah, I'm curious, I'm excited.
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I, I feel very blessed and grateful, especially lately,
like I've just really focused ongratitude and so very, very
happy. Very blessed.
I mean, I've got an awesome team.
I've got an awesome workplace vibe and culture.
I've got an awesome family. I like a little homestead
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operation. We have two little Yahoo's
running around getting dirty. It's just a got a good dog.
I mean, what else more can you ask for in life, You know?
OK, Good Wife, great wife. Great wife.
I had, I was on somebody else's podcast the other day and they
were asking me what is somethingsomebody can do right now we
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wouldn't like in the weeds on mindset and stoic thinking and
just headspace. And he was like, what is
something someone can implement now that would change the
trajectory of their life for thebetter?
And I was thinking about him, and I'm reading this book right
now. And this book is, he's a
military veteran. He's been like 4 different tours
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overseas. And every time they go overseas
into a combat zone, they make the soldiers write a death
letter to their family, their spouse, their kids, in case they
don't come back so their comradecan give that letter to them.
And he was like in the book recommending that everyone write
(19:27):
their own death letter now, because like the thought process
you have to go through to actually think about what it is
you're going to say and then putit on paper for your wife to
read or whatever. And I got to think, and I
haven't written mine yet, but I was thinking about what I would
write and it's like, it's kind of hard.
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I'm. Pregnant.
You can't make me cry right now.Yeah, you are pretty emotional.
Right now. But you know, like if I was to
sit down to write a letter to you or to Rigel or to Hazen with
them never knowing me beyond that moment or seeing me again,
like what would I want to put into words to be my parting
(20:10):
thoughts for them or you? And I would just want all of
y'all to know that I'm happy, you know, like I'm stressed.
You see me stressed. You see me sleep deprived.
You sleep me frustrated. So it would be very easy to
assume that I'm not happy to geta little tear.
I know, stop it. But I would just want you all to
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know that I'm happy, you know, I'm very blessed to have the
family that I do. Stop baby not.
Nice, I'm literally about to have a baby my hormones are
crazy. You're making me cry now.
So all that to say. Oh my goodness.
Man, I love you a lot, babe. I love you too.
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I love you a lot. And I think it's pretty cool
what we're building together. You know, like you rewind the
clock back few years when you and I met.
I mean, shoot, we, we sat down on a freaking pier in Coeur
d'Alene. Yeah.
And we talked about what it is that we wanted to build
together. And you look at what we have
(21:12):
right now and it's pretty much what we had set out to build,
you know, like you don't have your pigs yet.
We're. Close enough to that.
But we got the business, we got something that we're passionate
about that we're working on every single day.
And we got 1 kiddo and one on the way and we got a little,
(21:34):
little homestead. And every single day is a new,
you know. And what else?
What else more could anybody askfor, you know?
Stop it. I'm not saying emotional stuff.
You are I mean, I've been literally crying about all of
that lately just because I feel like overwhelmed with like so
much gratitude. I just made a post about it.
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I just feel like so like that, like I literally feel like
everything I've wanted. Of course nothing is perfect in
your life, but like everything I've ever wanted, like I'm it's
it right in front of me. You know, I have 1 1/2 kids and
a cool dog and awesome husband and I get to be home with my
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babies and you know, we have a great house and property and you
know, we just have so much and yeah, just so wonderful.
What can we do to be better? What can we do to be better for
each other, for our kids, as parents, as leaders, that what
can we do? You and I as like the team to be
(22:42):
better. I mean, I'm sure there's a bunch
of things that we can do. I want to make sure that we're
giving our kids the best optionsin life, the best opportunities,
and that we're present with themand we're putting them first,
you know? Yeah.
And I think like for me, it's hard because there's a lot of
(23:05):
distraction from family with thebusiness.
But I feel like if I play my cards right, I can leverage this
to be a really good vehicle to teach them so much like life
skills, interpersonal skills, personal skills.
And just like give them a very front, you know, frontline view
(23:27):
as to how the world works and how they can impact, you know,
and they may not never want to take over the business.
And I'm not going to have that expectation on them.
I'd be awesome if they did. But I think we can leverage it
to teach them a lot of things. And we're planning on
homeschooling, at least in the beginning.
So yeah, I just want to make sure that we're proactively
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thinking about how we want to raise them, what skills we want
them to have. And I want them to feel hurt,
you know, like I want them to feel comfortable, safe talking
to us about anything, any uncertainties they have, any
doubts they're struggling with and know that they've got, you
know, parents that love them andtrust them and we'll do anything
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for them. So I think we gotta do that.
I mean, it is crazy. Like I can tell when I'm present
with Rigel versus I'm like with him, but distracted.
Uh huh. Like his attitude totally
shifts, you know, like it's, andit, it's easy to get frustrated
with him in that moment, but youhave to just like point the
finger back at yourself, 'cause it's like, I'm the reason he's
(24:30):
acting like this right now. And sometimes he is totally
berserk, but oftentimes because he just wants attention, you
know, we're not present with him.
So we got to be mindful of that.I've really tried to be more
home when I'm home though. Yeah, you've done a much better
job lately. I think it's 'cause there's so
many things to do at home, but Ifeel like I've been better for
(24:53):
Rigel lately, for sure. It's probably because I feel so
grateful lately, so much gratitude.
It's like this is where I want to be right now, you know?
I also feel like there's like a natural progression to like, I'm
about to have another baby and my time is going to be consumed
by having this other baby. And of course I'm going to have
(25:14):
time for Rigel too. But you are going to have to
take on more of a role with him too.
And I feel like you guys are bonding more over other things
without me. I mean, in a good way because I
will have to have more time for Hazen for a little while.
And so I think it's like it alsolike this weird cool natural
(25:37):
progression that you guys are both like Rigel's adjusting,
you're adjusting. And I feel like you guys are
just doing it like naturally. But I think it's really going to
help when Hazen does get here. Yeah, I think, I think if we
have a project to do at the house or if you just like me
taking him out fishing or something like that, that'd be
good. But he definitely wants to help
(25:59):
with everything that I'm doing like his.
My leaf blower is now his, like,favorite toy.
Yeah. I know.
He told me this morning he woke up and he's like, I want to go
outside and I want to get the leaf blower and I want to blow
things. Yeah, OK.
But I feel like, like I changed oil the other day and he was
underneath the truck handing me like I asked him to hand me a
(26:19):
wrench and he's like, is it thisone?
I'm like, no, not that one. Is it this one?
I'm like, Yep, that's it. And he handed me the wrench, you
know, so like little things likethat.
It's pretty cool to see him. And he's so proud.
Like Robert will come in and say, man, you did a good job
helping me today. And he's like, yeah, yeah, I'm a
good helper or, you know, whatever.
Like he's just like, so excited to be.
Your it was, it was pretty cute.The other day I was going to mow
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the building. So he came in.
Y'all came in earlier for something, not sure what, but he
was in the gym and I kneeled down and I'm all right, Rigel,
this is the plan. I'm going to work a little bit
longer and I'm going to come home after your nap.
I'm going to load up the mower into the trailer and then we're
going to load up your little tractor and mower as well.
We'll drive up to the building and we'll do some hard work.
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And I just kind of left it that.And then I come home and he's
got his work overalls on. He's got his little cowboy hat
on and he's like super excited. He's like, I was going to do
some hard work. So we loaded up the the mower
and then he drove his little tractor and mower onto the
trailer. And then we went by the gas
station, got some gas. Some guy was there.
He was like this super cute little mower you got there and
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Rigel unloaded him and as I'm mowing, he's driving around the
field with me. I mean, that was, that was
pretty cool. Yeah, and Rigel even said
something like, I've got the best daddy I could do this with.
And I think it was that day thatyou were out doing the mowing
or. Something it made.
It made me pretty happy. It was like, so that's like so
sweet. I've got the best daddy I could
do this with. You know, like that.
Like he like that you would do this with him.
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He thought you were the best ever.
So sweet. Yeah, and he says some things
that are like, hurtful. He doesn't mean it to be
hurtful. And it definitely is.
Like he'll say some things like I don't want to give you a kiss,
I don't want to hug. I don't even know you.
Like I don't. Even know, I don't know.
Even heard that but then it's always like he's just.
It's just a moment, yeah. Like.
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He doesn't even know what they mean, but then he'll say
something like that and it's like just melts your heart, you
know? So super.
Sweet. He's a good kiddo.
He's smart too. He's like picking things up like
crazy right now. Like any word I throw at him, no
matter how complicated it is, hehe'll just say it like first try
and sometimes it's a little rocky, but like weird.
Like I'll say say Arachnid and he'll like say it, you know,
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which is pretty cool. He's picking up things.
He's reading books like non-stop.
Like we're reading books for him, but we're on the the go dog
go book trend right now. He loves that book so much.
He'll like pick a certain like 3books and then he just wants to
read those three books like fivetimes a day over and over and
over again. He's got a couple weird man
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rhythms, like he'll line everything up.
He'll line up all of his cars and then he wants to like, move
them to a certain spot, all in the line.
He's very specific, very particular.
Yeah, he is very. Particular it makes me curious
to see what Hazen's going to be like.
I know you know, like the personthat is going to be similar,
totally different. Is he going to be interested in
tractors and trailers or is he going to be like, no, let me
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sports go to space? Or yeah.
Or yeah, yeah. I don't know.
It'd be good. It'd be good, yeah.
Any other updates specific to 1/3 trimester?
So you got your blood test done?Yeah, they do some blood tests
at the end of pregnancy and it'sall good, all.
Everything's been positive. Yep.
Every time we go, I need to get a heartbeat.
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Heartbeat's been good. We've we've not opted into the
ultrasounds any more than necessary.
Yeah. We did not do a third trimester.
How many ultrasounds have we done in total?
221 In the beginning they would not let me opt out of the first
one, which wrote me wrong, but whatever.
So they had one the first week Iever saw them and then.
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Then the sex. 20 week, 1 weeks or something, Yeah.
Determine sex. But position wise he's great.
He's in a good spot. Rigel was.
Face presentation posterior. Presentation posterior and then
Hazen is. Head down, head down.
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I don't know. I mean, I don't, I don't know
exactly he. Could be face presentation right
he? Could, yeah, but so far
everything seems to be going right.
He's not engaged yet though, right?
Yeah, he's super low, but he's not like, engaged.
Engaged. But yeah, we also did the GBS
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test. I'm negative.
I was negative with Rigel too, which is.
Excellent. Is that like a common thing?
Oh yeah. What causes that?
What does it stand for? Group B strep, Group B strep,
it's just a bacteria that everyone, I mean not everyone
has, but people have it all the time and it is not harmful to
us. But if the child's going through
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the birth canal, it can cause some serious issues.
Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't.
People who do test positive are offered antibiotics for the
baby, but it's given to you during labour for the baby to
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have or. A vaccine or like.
A. They put it in your IV OK and
but they want it to get through to the baby so that they can
fight any infection that they would potentially get.
So that's we don't have to do that, but.
Yeah, you don't have to worry about, we don't have to worry
about antibiotics because we, I don't have it, but sometimes
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people opt out or opt in or whatever, but like, it's so
hard. I had someone reached out to me
and asked me about like, should we do the IV?
And I was like, that's a totallypersonal opinion because it's
like, it's so personal. It's so like in your gut, like,
do you feel good or bad about this, you know?
But I'm just glad I don't have to think about it because I'm
negative. And we don't even have to have
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IV hooked up with you, right? Like typically they'll do that
as a preventative measure just to have that hooked up.
Just easy access. I'll have a heplock so I'll have
it connected because I'm not. I'm fine with that.
It doesn't bother me to be to have a needle in my arm or
whatever, but they won't automatically hook me up to
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liquids. Yeah.
Yeah. You happy?
Excited to be a mom of two. I am, yeah.
I think, I think it honestly came out a perfect time.
I mean, we planned it, but you can only plan so much.
But I really think it's like perfect timing.
We've always said that we'll decide on if we have a third
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based off how we feel after the 2nd, so.
I'm not talking about it. So we'll see how this one goes,
but I'm excited. I'm excited for sure.
Yeah. I guess the next time people see
you on a podcast, you'll be you're having a little baby.
When we, I was looking back at some of the, you know, we used
to those live at 5 calls and everything and Rigel was with us
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and all those that we were holding him.
Rigel loves looking at pictures of himself.
He sure does. Like, Oh my goodness, we'll be
in an appointment, so I'll just scroll through pictures to keep
them preoccupied. And it was just crazy how much
she's changed. But we're about to be doing that
round two. I know so.
Wild. But I'm super excited, like
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Roger doesn't really just chill out and like ever.
So I'm super excited to have a little baby that I could just
like stick on my chest and just chill out and just cuddle with
for a little bit, you know? That'll be good.
Be good. You're going to do workouts at
home for the foreseeable future once the baby's born, right?
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Yeah, so the hope is that I can nurse Hazen and leave him with
you and Rachel, and I can just go in the garage, do my thing,
and then if he, Robert needs me,then I can just come in.
Or he can leave one of the kids with me or whatever and I can
finish up. But.
And do a little garage work to make that feasible.
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Yes, we sure do. It's very dirty right now.
Does not look like a gym at the.Moment no sure doesn't so but
it's going to be a little while till I'm like actively in the
gym so. Maybe gets that.
A couple other things that I wasgoing to talk about was just how
I'm feeling as far as like body goes.
And like I've said in the other podcast like this, pregnancy has
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been so different based. On how you feel about yourself.
No, just in general. Like how I feel, how my body
feels and boy pregnancy #2 really smacked me in the face I
feel like. Well, you were like nauseous and
sick throughout this one. Much longer.
Yes, but that was like way earlier, just even in the third
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trimester, just like I had the sciatic pain a little bit
earlier and that actually went away luckily.
But I started having like some pelvic pain and like super tight
ligaments and that was like pulling up on my pelvic bone
like on the left side, just likefeeling like I was going to
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break in two. But but the chiropractor has
changed my life. Like it's literally done so much
for me. I've been seeing them twice a
week for like the last several weeks, like several weeks.
I I started seeing them once a month, then every two weeks,
then it turned to every week, and then it turned into twice a
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week. And it's they have literally
changed the way I feel like. I don't think I would make it
through without them. So if you're experiencing any
pain at all in your body, I would highly recommend a
chiropractor. Like I did not.
Yeah, I mean, I don't, I see a great one.
And she, you know, is Webster certified, but she's also like
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passionate about prenatals and Pediatrics and all of that.
So it's great. I just think it's been so good
for me. So good.
And a game changer. Yeah, yeah, it sure has.
But I definitely feel a lot different.
And Even so far, like leading upto birth, like I did not feel
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anything with Rigel. Like I felt like nothing.
Like I felt like I could be pregnant for another two months
and I was not about to have a baby and I got to 42 weeks.
That happened. That has not happened as of late
with Hazen. Like you, definitely.
Yeah, I definitely am feeling like he's low.
I feel like weird feelings. I've had a lot of Braxton Hicks.
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I've had a little bit of back pain, like all the things that
you think about, like leading up.
I've had a little bit of my plugcome out like just like the
things that you that happen whenbefore you have a baby.
So it's very interesting becauseyou go from having Rigel and
having none of those things to having this one where I'm like,
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OK, I might actually have a vaginal birth.
Like this is so cool. He's not coming out yet, but
it's just my due date. Like I have to remember that
like today is my due date. Like it's normal to go past your
due date. And but yeah, it's pretty cool
that things are actually like moving.
Like I'm have symptoms of like I'm going to give birth.
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So it's cool no matter how it ends up, no matter how it ends
up, it's just cool that I've been able to experience it like
this so far. Now that you've dug into it
more, I'll ask you this questionagain.
And once we actually have the baby.
But do you think you'll you see yourself like getting involved
in that space somehow or another, like becoming a
certified dual or midwife or postpartum or lactation
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consultant or. I definitely am very passionate
about birth and I always have been and I was before I got
pregnant with Rigel. I got more more so with Rigel.
And then my whole brain froze for a while after having had him
and like experiencing his birth and stuff like that really
Jarred me. But now, but then, you know,
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once I kind of like moved on from that and decided like, OK,
with this next baby, I'm going to try for AV back.
I'm going to try for this. I'm going to.
I dug back into it and it was like that like excitement,
passion thing kind of like came out again.
I don't know what that will looklike.
I'd have no idea because it doesn't, I mean, it doesn't
really like blend in with all the things that we have going on
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and I'll be home schooling the kids and you know, things like
that. So like, I don't know what that
will look like. I might be 60 and decide like
that's when I want to start doing it.
I don't know. But I definitely feel like an
excitement and like a passion for being there for other women
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as much as I can, whatever that might look like in the future
days. But yeah, I think being a doula
would be really awesome, like anawesome opportunity.
Well, I like our doulas a lot. They're pretty like super cool.
Like a lot of these appointmentshave been dreaded and they're
just like, not dreaded, but it'slike.
Just monotonous like normal. Yeah.
And I think as a guy, like I don't know if they just don't
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have many of the dads accompany the the moms, but like they
don't typically give me the timeof day, which is kind of
frustrating. Yeah, not the doulas.
Yeah, but the doulas like they're super involved.
It's like look, y'all doing thisas a team, you know?
Like they see so many bursts, like when the dad's not doing
what he's supposed to, it totally.
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Makes. Things, you know, not good.
So it's like they they see it asa two party system and it's
like. Yeah, I mean, I, I appreciate
them. I can totally see you doing what
they do with your own style and being a massive advocate for the
mother and the father. And they're being positive.
Yeah. And I think, I mean, just
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hopefully I'll have a different experience this time.
But I think having experienced ahospital induction AC section
and hopefully this time we will get to labor as long as we can
at home and have a vaginal birthat a hospital.
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And then if we decide to have another one, we might have a
home birth. Like it would be cool to have
all these experiences and be able to like relate to more
people. And yeah, just like that
excitement. I don't know, I just I have that
excitement for that this kind ofstuff.
And like, I don't know, maybe that'll fade away as that's not
like where I am in life, but I feel like women are just like
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super cool. Like we are just they're, we're
so cool. We ought to have a third kid,
like out in the woods. Can you not?
And that'd be cool. No, I don't really want to give
birth in the woods. Like a hunting trip and then I
come back with like, this elk meat and then you're like about
to have a baby. And then we like have a baby.
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And then it's just we're all wearing animal skins.
Nope, I think I'll pass. Be pretty savage.
I bet it would be. Oh, babe, I'm super proud of
you. It's cool.
For me. I like watching people suffer as
I know it was weird as that may sound, but you, you see what
people are made of when they're pushed up against the wall and
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when they're on the brink of giving up.
And I don't like seeing you in pain, but I like seeing you in
pain, you know, like I liked watching you suffer during the
50 mile March. We did that.
I liked watching you go through your prep and I'm excited to see
you labor with our kid, our son,and then pull through it and
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just see the strength that you've had to, you know, muster
up to do that successfully. And I'm just super proud of you.
You're like, you're an awesome mother.
I mean, since the moment I met you, I'm like, this is the best
mother I could ever hope for formy future kids.
And you just continue to live that out for the years we've
known each other. And I'm excited for you to do it
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again with Hazen. And I'm, I'm grateful for you
and proud of you. I love you all my heart, babe.
Love you too. Anything else?
Any parting thoughts? I don't think so.
We can hear our kid out there being crazy with my sister and I
should probably go wrangle him. Yeah, it's been a little while
and she's, he's been going berserk out there, so we'll go
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see what he's what Mischief. He's got himself into him.
Yeah, babe, we'll about to have a baby.
Let's do the damn thing. Yeah, do it.
We'll see you next time when we have a baby in our arms.
Yes indeed. Love you.
Love you.
I work with a pelvic floor therapist, but it's not because
I have any issues. It's just like they're so
informative of helping you to gather information from your
body of like what's going to work best for you.
We worked on like even pushing positions like what feels better
and she had me try a couple different things and like I
found out that like one positionworks better than the other for
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me that I would have never put myself in.
You know, like I've said in the other podcast, like this
pregnancy has been so different just in general, like how I
feel, how my body feels and boy pregnancy #2 really smacked me
in the face. I started having like some
pelvic pain and like super tightligaments and that was like
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pulling up on my pelvic bone like on the left side just like
feeling like I was going to break in two.
But but the chiropractor has changed my life.
You were at the farmers market. Sure was did.
You find anything good? Did you get anything?
No, it was about half of the quarter of the size of normally
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that is on Saturdays, so. Today's Tuesday so I would
expect it to be a smaller run. Is good stuff though still.
Yeah, vegetables. Flowers.
How you feeling, babe? We're going to do a real time
podcast. We're going to deliver the baby
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on the table and we're going. To in Robert's dreams.
The entire operation, the whole experience is going to be
podcasted, broadcasted live as you're giving birth in audio and
video format. That is incorrect.
Not having him today is your duedate though.
Technically. 40 weeks on the nose today and there's still no
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baby. How you feeling babe?
Tired of holding him in. Tired of holding him in.
I think I'm get sympathy pregnancy vibes going.
Like I feel tired too. That was going on for
Synchronized. Today's the only day that I've
felt really tired so. You sleep OK last night?
Yeah, I tried starting Rigel offin his bed.
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No. You, you were scooted over a
lot. We were scooted over a lot and
he was initially in his little side bed thing but he kept
moving closer and closer to me until he was on.
Top of you? Yeah, on top.
He's got he, he sleeps horizontally too.
Like he doesn't. Oh yeah, he, he kicks me.
Your feet, His feet are like. In you.
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Yeah. Yeah, they're like on my belly.
Robert and I switched switched sides of the bed.
Yeah, so we're we're getting acclimated to it, but Hazen
shouldn't be here any day now. Excited to meet this little
munch. He's been kicking today quite a
bit. Normal.
Normal amount of kicking. Any other contractions?
Anything new? Yeah, I've had contractions all
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day. Like more so than you normally
do on a day-to-day basis. Depends on the day.
There's a couple days. There's been a couple days where
I'm like, I am having a baby today and then and that like
today is like one of those like I have contractions, but they,
and they've been all morning. I woke up at 4:00 and they've
been all day. It's what, 11:15?
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So just feels like maybe like prodromal labour.
When you say that, is it pre drama?
Prodromal, dromal, DROMAL prodromal.
Interesting. Yeah, we have to paint the fence
again tonight, I guess. Huh.
It's code. We have young kiddo in the room.
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That's. That's code for other things to
get the contraction stirred up. Painting the fence.
Yep, Yep. But I'm excited to meet this
guy. Me too.
It honestly hadn't hit me yet. Probably like it's hit you, but
I think it's hitting me more because I think, I think, I
think it's it's top of mind now,whereas it wasn't top of mind
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last week. Yeah, well, I feel like this is
the first week that you actuallytook yourself off the schedule,
even though you still have things scheduled.
It's like the it's they're excused scheduled things like,
hey, we can totally do this. But if my wife is having a baby,
I can't. But like other than that, you
didn't schedule anything. So I feel like this is the first
week where you've been able to like somewhat breathe.
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And I think also your sister being here, yes, was like a very
tangible thing of like, OK, she's here to help with Rigel
when the baby comes. So the fact that she's here
means that we're also about to have a baby.
Yeah, she was supposed to show up today and she got here on
Saturday night because I asked her to come early because I was
like, I can't relax. And I lost a little bit of my
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plug on Monday. And so that was like, oh, are
things going to move faster? Are they going to not?
He's like, you can lose that andnot go into labor for weeks, but
you could also go in a couple hours.
And so I just was, I think I wasjust getting a little anxious
and was like, if she's not doinganything, I'm going to see if
she can come out early. So she's got here Saturday late,
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late night. And today is the day that she
should have been here. And I'm like, I still haven't
had a psycho bad. We paid more money for her to
come early. She left her family to be here.
She brought my niece, but she still left two of her sons and
her husband. Yeah.
And he hasn't come yet. But we have time.
We have. He has time.
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So what happens if he does? He pulls a range when he's two
weeks late. Like, is she still going to be
here? I think so, or we'll just ask
someone else to come. Because she's a teacher.
And when does? She's out for the summer.
She's out for the summer, so she's pretty flexible.
Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, very crazy.
But it is like really relieving to have someone in our house
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that. You trust you're comfortable.
With yeah and like gets me and like we're on the same page like
we can just hang out all day. We.
I haven't seen her in a year anda half and so like we're just
able to like hang out until he comes, which is so awesome for
me. And she hasn't been here since
2020, I guess. Yeah, because she said she
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hadn't seen the building since. It was like just getting.
Motivated like yeah. Studs on the wall.
So that's kind of crazy. Has been pretty cool.
I feel like her or Carolina Rigel been getting along good.
Oh yeah. Is is Rigel like wearing
Carolina down a little bit? I think just like, you know,
Caroline is 9, so I think just like a little bit of just
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travelling, being in a new place.
It's really hot here, it's humid.
Neither one of them are used to it.
Rigel loves being outside. I've been wanting to go for
walks. So I think like all of it is a
little bit tiring, but we're doing such relaxed things that I
think it's fine. But Rigel is, he's a little high
energy, but they're both doing great.
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Yeah, Rigel loves her, that's for sure.
Yes, he does. He sure does.
He is off his rocker playing with her.
What are they doing right now inthe gym?
I. Think so.
Doing some curls, probably curlsfor the girls.
He's showing off for him. He worked out with us.
On what? What day do we all work out on
Saturday? Yeah, Saturday.
That was honestly, I've been thinking about this.
That was like a perfect day. Yeah, it was pretty great.
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That was like a like, we woke up, I got my client work done,
we had coffee on the porch, watch the sunrise, and then we
loaded up Rigel and Diesel. We went to the park for a walk,
the trail, the scenic nature trailer.
All got chigger bites. Great.
I didn't get chigger. Bites.
Yeah, Robert doesn't get by anything.
But but y'all got chigger bites and then we went to workout.
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We had a good workout. I finished my workout, went
heavy on sumo deads. But like normally when Diesel
and rides are in the gym, my workouts kind of black luster.
But workout was a solid workout and took Diesel to the hardware
store, picked up a blowtorch, came back home, then what'd we?
Do put write it down for a nap. I think you started a fire.
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We did paint the fence. Start a fire.
Yeah, you do. No, it's our farm.
You didn't. No, it's not supposed to rain
for a week. I mowed.
I did mow. Yeah, mowed.
And then, yeah, it was just. Oh yeah, and you just like you.
We just like cleaned up the house and you pressure washed
and mowed a little bit and some outdoor stuff.
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We just spent some time outside as a family and getting stuff
done it. Was like a super relaxing,
productive, enjoyable day like that's a.
Perfect. It felt like we spent the whole
day together, too. Yeah.
And usually when we do that, like when we are like, let's
spend time like this is a familyweek, weekend, blah, blah, blah.
It feels like that we go to townlike Fayetteville and we'll go
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somewhere, pick something up or do something and then it's like
half of our days gone. So then we're like, oh man, we
haven't even done anything all day.
But I think by like starting offwith like a hike and a workout.
Oh, we went to that little localmarket too.
And like, I think just by starting it off, I like hike the
little market, a workout like itjust start felt like we started
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the day off like with a bang family.
Yeah, I like taking diesel places.
Yeah, it's a good boy. He's a big dog, 140 LB Italian
Mastiff Connie Corso Brindle. He just looks intimidating.
He's a big puppy dog, but looks intimidating.
But I like walking into a place,you know, with him, you just
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like command the room. It's kind of cool.
But yet like I walked into O'reilly's to get some one of
the like fix a flat stuff and I'm not sure like what are the
rules on certain establishments for having dogs?
You just have to ask. Usually if it doesn't have food
they don't really care. Yeah, but.
Like he's not a service dog, obviously.
Yeah. So like would I be able to walk
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into Academy with him? Probably.
Maybe. I don't know.
I have no idea what the rules are.
All I know is Lowe's. In Home Depot, Lowe's in Home
Depot, hardwarf storage is safe.Yeah, that's that was good.
So what? What are the big highlights of
the phase three? 3rd trimester, yeah, you could
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have phase three, I mean Robert thing, competition prep.
Course mode, yeah. So not phase three, third
trimester. This is our third trimester
podcast. What were the big updates for
trimester 2? Second trimester.
You started feeling happy. A boy.
Yeah, we knew. We learned the sex.
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You just been like, we're in theevery single week.
You have a midwife appointment phase.
Yes. So every single week.
It was like, but with the third trimester you go every other
week and then the last four weeks is every week.
But my schedule got messed up, so I've been going every week
for the last five weeks. And then we had the doula
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appointment. So we met with the doulas twice
now 3 * 3 times. And then you've been going like
non-stop chiropractic, pelvic floor therapy, what else?
Massage. Random massage.
It's like all kinds of prep work.
Your workouts have shifted a bit.
You're not doing your bodybuilding style lifts so much
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as you are stretching. Mobility work?
Yeah. Exercise balls?
Rebozoing. Yeah, I'm like a super tight
person. Like I hold my, like, I hold
like my pelvic floor and just like my muscles, my glutes, like
I hold them really tight. And so something I've been
really working on is just relaxing.
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And it's really hard to relax when you're lifting, but it's
important to keep lifting so that you're, you continue to
strengthen the muscles that you do need for like labor, like
birth labor, delivery, but also relaxing your muscles enough to
allow a baby to come out. So it's been a little, yeah,
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it's been a little different than what I did with Rigel.
I just, I feel like I've been, I've had more of a focus of
like, this is my intention rightnow.
This is I'm prepping for this, you know, and that's so we.
Did a lot of prep work for Rigel.
I did, yeah. But I feel like now like having
to have the emergency C-section with him, it's like we're taking
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no. I feel like it's a more narrowed
approach now. Like before it was like, I am
prepping for this and now it's like I am, I am working on this
specific thing with a specific blah, blah, blah, working with a
public floor therapist, working with the, you know, this, that
and the other. And I honestly like I'm, I work
with a pelvic floor therapist, but it's not because I have any
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issues. It's just like they're so
informative of helping you to gather information from your
body of like what's going to work best for you.
We worked on like even pushing positions like what feels
better? And she had me try a couple
different things. And like I found out that like
one position works better than the other for me that I would
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have never put myself in, you know, So it's just, it's just
interesting. Highly recommend if you haven't
seen a public floor therapist that you do see one in pregnancy
leading up to labor and deliveryand stuff, especially if you're,
I mean not especially, but like if you're planning to do things
naturally too, that could be really helpful if you're, if you
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have an epidural, it's a little harder to move, but they can
still help you out a lot with like navigating tools that you
can use if you are if you have an epidural, but.
And you've been totally cool with everything as far as you
know, going through the midwife and it being in the hospital
setting. The only thing I don't like
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about that is they won't let me use my Obsidian rock to cut the
cord. Bill Schindler sent me a block
of Obsidian that I was going to have Rigel nap piece off of, and
that was going to be the Stone Age tool that we used to cut the
cord. So that's not cool.
But other than that, everything with the midwife in the hospital
setting has been pretty much in line with our preferences.
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That's good. We're going to have the midwife
in the room, the doula in the room, one of the two, right?
Just one birth photographer and then you and I and then nurses
intermingling and then only a doctor if there's any
complications, correct? So that'll be good.
That'll be good. It's a pretty big room.
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We wouldn't looked at it if we're in that room.
Yeah. I mean, the other ones are
probably not that that much smaller than, but yeah.
So that'd be good. What are we going to have for a
celebratory meal afterwards? I don't know.
I actually tried to look up likerestaurants local and I didn't
get very far because I got distracted, but I don't.
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Know it's in Fort Smith, so it'snot like we can get any of the
normal Fayetteville. Places there's got to be like a
local restaurant. Because they want you there
overnight, right? Like so we'll have the baby and
depending on when it's like a full 24 hours after that. 24
hours, yeah. But if I have them like in the
middle of the night, they'll keep us that night and then the
next night. So I'll try to get out as fast
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as I can. That's my that's my goal.
They let us go early with Rigel.Are you going to want Rigel to
come like in that 24 hour block?Yeah, so Heather could pick us
up a steak and bring it. Well, I was saying we'd just
order something so that way whenshe shows up, we can just hang
out with Rigel and then we can have a hot meal another time.
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Because it depends. Like I might have a baby at 9:00
in the morning and say I am starving for breakfast, go get
me something. You know, we could just order
something from Ubereats or whatever.
Yeah. And they?
Give you a steak at the hospitaltoo.
They do, they give you a steak, like a steak dinner to like
celebrate your baby. But like, how good is the steak
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hospital steak? You know, our last one was
terrible. It's at a different hospital
this time, but I imagine they'rethe same steaks.
This hospital probably got a worse steak honestly.
Honestly, probably they do because the last hospital was a
specialty hospital and it was like everything was very fancy.
Except a steak. Except for the steak, yeah.
Yeah, let's not do that. We'll just go somewhere for food
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or have something ordered in. Yeah.
But yeah, I'm, I'm really excited to see what Rigel's like
with Hazen. Like, I think I'm more excited
about that than anything else. Yeah, I'm super excited.
Because like, I was talking to Greg about this in the work
podcast, but Rigel's all like, Iwant to play with him with my
toys. I got my old toys he can play
with. I'm going to read him a book.
We're going to play in the sandbox.
And I'm like, he's going to be apuddle of flesh for a little
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while, buddy. But he does know that because I
have friends that have babies. And so he knows because he says,
oh, Hazen won't be able to grab things.
Yeah, I'm like, yeah, you're right.
Like maybe your finger, you know, like, he does know that he
won't be able to do much. He knows that he won't eat food.
He'll, you know, have mom's milk.
And like, he does know that he'sgoing to be a baby.
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But I always just say like, yeah, when he gets a little
bigger than when he learns to sit up, when he learns to walk,
Like, so he knows that he can't walk.
He can't sit. He can't, you know, we just have
to hold him for a little while. And yeah, you.
Think he's going to look more like me or you?
I don't know, I have no idea. The eye color is the one that
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changes frequently, right? Yeah, Rigel's never did.
Yeah. But like, it's often that
they're born with blue eyes and then that typically shifts.
Yeah, like they it's usually like a lighter color and then
they. The hair color too, I guess they
also, yeah. Rigel, their hair, usually their
hair falls out and then they getwhatever hair color is next.
Yeah. Yeah, I'm curious, I'm excited.
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I, I feel very blessed and grateful, especially lately,
like I've just really focused ongratitude and so very, very
happy. Very blessed.
I mean, I've got an awesome team.
I've got an awesome workplace vibe and culture.
I've got an awesome family. I like a little homestead
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operation. We have two little Yahoo's
running around getting dirty. It's just a got a good dog.
I mean, what else more can you ask for in life, You know?
OK, Good Wife, great wife. Great wife.
I had, I was on somebody else's podcast the other day and they
were asking me what is somethingsomebody can do right now we
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wouldn't like in the weeds on mindset and stoic thinking and
just headspace. And he was like, what is
something someone can implement now that would change the
trajectory of their life for thebetter?
And I was thinking about him, and I'm reading this book right
now. And this book is, he's a
military veteran. He's been like 4 different tours
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overseas. And every time they go overseas
into a combat zone, they make the soldiers write a death
letter to their family, their spouse, their kids, in case they
don't come back so their comradecan give that letter to them.
And he was like in the book recommending that everyone write
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their own death letter now, because like the thought process
you have to go through to actually think about what it is
you're going to say and then putit on paper for your wife to
read or whatever. And I got to think, and I
haven't written mine yet, but I was thinking about what I would
write and it's like, it's kind of hard.
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I'm. Pregnant.
You can't make me cry right now.Yeah, you are pretty emotional.
Right now. But you know, like if I was to
sit down to write a letter to you or to Rigel or to Hazen with
them never knowing me beyond that moment or seeing me again,
like what would I want to put into words to be my parting
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thoughts for them or you? And I would just want all of
y'all to know that I'm happy, you know, like I'm stressed.
You see me stressed. You see me sleep deprived.
You sleep me frustrated. So it would be very easy to
assume that I'm not happy to geta little tear.
I know, stop it. But I would just want you all to
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know that I'm happy, you know, I'm very blessed to have the
family that I do. Stop baby not.
Nice, I'm literally about to have a baby my hormones are
crazy. You're making me cry now.
So all that to say. Oh my goodness.
Man, I love you a lot, babe. I love you too.
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I love you a lot. And I think it's pretty cool
what we're building together. You know, like you rewind the
clock back few years when you and I met.
I mean, shoot, we, we sat down on a freaking pier in Coeur
d'Alene. Yeah.
And we talked about what it is that we wanted to build
together. And you look at what we have
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right now and it's pretty much what we had set out to build,
you know, like you don't have your pigs yet.
We're. Close enough to that.
But we got the business, we got something that we're passionate
about that we're working on every single day.
And we got 1 kiddo and one on the way and we got a little,
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little homestead. And every single day is a new,
you know. And what else?
What else more could anybody askfor, you know?
Stop it. I'm not saying emotional stuff.
You are I mean, I've been literally crying about all of
that lately just because I feel like overwhelmed with like so
much gratitude. I just made a post about it.
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I just feel like so like that, like I literally feel like
everything I've wanted. Of course nothing is perfect in
your life, but like everything I've ever wanted, like I'm it's
it right in front of me. You know, I have 1 1/2 kids and
a cool dog and awesome husband and I get to be home with my
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babies and you know, we have a great house and property and you
know, we just have so much and yeah, just so wonderful.
What can we do to be better? What can we do to be better for
each other, for our kids, as parents, as leaders, that what
can we do? You and I as like the team to be
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better. I mean, I'm sure there's a bunch
of things that we can do. I want to make sure that we're
giving our kids the best optionsin life, the best opportunities,
and that we're present with themand we're putting them first,
you know? Yeah.
And I think like for me, it's hard because there's a lot of
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distraction from family with thebusiness.
But I feel like if I play my cards right, I can leverage this
to be a really good vehicle to teach them so much like life
skills, interpersonal skills, personal skills.
And just like give them a very front, you know, frontline view
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as to how the world works and how they can impact, you know,
and they may not never want to take over the business.
And I'm not going to have that expectation on them.
I'd be awesome if they did. But I think we can leverage it
to teach them a lot of things. And we're planning on
homeschooling, at least in the beginning.
So yeah, I just want to make sure that we're proactively
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thinking about how we want to raise them, what skills we want
them to have. And I want them to feel hurt,
you know, like I want them to feel comfortable, safe talking
to us about anything, any uncertainties they have, any
doubts they're struggling with and know that they've got, you
know, parents that love them andtrust them and we'll do anything
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for them. So I think we gotta do that.
I mean, it is crazy. Like I can tell when I'm present
with Rigel versus I'm like with him, but distracted.
Uh huh. Like his attitude totally
shifts, you know, like it's, andit, it's easy to get frustrated
with him in that moment, but youhave to just like point the
finger back at yourself, 'cause it's like, I'm the reason he's
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acting like this right now. And sometimes he is totally
berserk, but oftentimes because he just wants attention, you
know, we're not present with him.
So we got to be mindful of that.I've really tried to be more
home when I'm home though. Yeah, you've done a much better
job lately. I think it's 'cause there's so
many things to do at home, but Ifeel like I've been better for
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Rigel lately, for sure. It's probably because I feel so
grateful lately, so much gratitude.
It's like this is where I want to be right now, you know?
I also feel like there's like a natural progression to like, I'm
about to have another baby and my time is going to be consumed
by having this other baby. And of course I'm going to have
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time for Rigel too. But you are going to have to
take on more of a role with him too.
And I feel like you guys are bonding more over other things
without me. I mean, in a good way because I
will have to have more time for Hazen for a little while.
And so I think it's like it alsolike this weird cool natural
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progression that you guys are both like Rigel's adjusting,
you're adjusting. And I feel like you guys are
just doing it like naturally. But I think it's really going to
help when Hazen does get here. Yeah, I think, I think if we
have a project to do at the house or if you just like me
taking him out fishing or something like that, that'd be
good. But he definitely wants to help
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with everything that I'm doing like his.
My leaf blower is now his, like,favorite toy.
Yeah. I know.
He told me this morning he woke up and he's like, I want to go
outside and I want to get the leaf blower and I want to blow
things. Yeah, OK.
But I feel like, like I changed oil the other day and he was
underneath the truck handing me like I asked him to hand me a
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wrench and he's like, is it thisone?
I'm like, no, not that one. Is it this one?
I'm like, Yep, that's it. And he handed me the wrench, you
know, so like little things likethat.
It's pretty cool to see him. And he's so proud.
Like Robert will come in and say, man, you did a good job
helping me today. And he's like, yeah, yeah, I'm a
good helper or, you know, whatever.
Like he's just like, so excited to be.
Your it was, it was pretty cute.The other day I was going to mow
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the building. So he came in.
Y'all came in earlier for something, not sure what, but he
was in the gym and I kneeled down and I'm all right, Rigel,
this is the plan. I'm going to work a little bit
longer and I'm going to come home after your nap.
I'm going to load up the mower into the trailer and then we're
going to load up your little tractor and mower as well.
We'll drive up to the building and we'll do some hard work.
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And I just kind of left it that.And then I come home and he's
got his work overalls on. He's got his little cowboy hat
on and he's like super excited. He's like, I was going to do
some hard work. So we loaded up the the mower
and then he drove his little tractor and mower onto the
trailer. And then we went by the gas
station, got some gas. Some guy was there.
He was like this super cute little mower you got there and
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Rigel unloaded him and as I'm mowing, he's driving around the
field with me. I mean, that was, that was
pretty cool. Yeah, and Rigel even said
something like, I've got the best daddy I could do this with.
And I think it was that day thatyou were out doing the mowing
or. Something it made.
It made me pretty happy. It was like, so that's like so
sweet. I've got the best daddy I could
do this with. You know, like that.
Like he like that you would do this with him.
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He thought you were the best ever.
So sweet. Yeah, and he says some things
that are like, hurtful. He doesn't mean it to be
hurtful. And it definitely is.
Like he'll say some things like I don't want to give you a kiss,
I don't want to hug. I don't even know you.
Like I don't. Even know, I don't know.
Even heard that but then it's always like he's just.
It's just a moment, yeah. Like.
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He doesn't even know what they mean, but then he'll say
something like that and it's like just melts your heart, you
know? So super.
Sweet. He's a good kiddo.
He's smart too. He's like picking things up like
crazy right now. Like any word I throw at him, no
matter how complicated it is, hehe'll just say it like first try
and sometimes it's a little rocky, but like weird.
Like I'll say say Arachnid and he'll like say it, you know,
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which is pretty cool. He's picking up things.
He's reading books like non-stop.
Like we're reading books for him, but we're on the the go dog
go book trend right now. He loves that book so much.
He'll like pick a certain like 3books and then he just wants to
read those three books like fivetimes a day over and over and
over again. He's got a couple weird man
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rhythms, like he'll line everything up.
He'll line up all of his cars and then he wants to like, move
them to a certain spot, all in the line.
He's very specific, very particular.
Yeah, he is very. Particular it makes me curious
to see what Hazen's going to be like.
I know you know, like the personthat is going to be similar,
totally different. Is he going to be interested in
tractors and trailers or is he going to be like, no, let me
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sports go to space? Or yeah.
Or yeah, yeah. I don't know.
It'd be good. It'd be good, yeah.
Any other updates specific to 1/3 trimester?
So you got your blood test done?Yeah, they do some blood tests
at the end of pregnancy and it'sall good, all.
Everything's been positive. Yep.
Every time we go, I need to get a heartbeat.
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Heartbeat's been good. We've we've not opted into the
ultrasounds any more than necessary.
Yeah. We did not do a third trimester.
How many ultrasounds have we done in total?
221 In the beginning they would not let me opt out of the first
one, which wrote me wrong, but whatever.
So they had one the first week Iever saw them and then.
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Then the sex. 20 week, 1 weeks or something, Yeah.
Determine sex. But position wise he's great.
He's in a good spot. Rigel was.
Face presentation posterior. Presentation posterior and then
Hazen is. Head down, head down.
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I don't know. I mean, I don't, I don't know
exactly he. Could be face presentation right
he? Could, yeah, but so far
everything seems to be going right.
He's not engaged yet though, right?
Yeah, he's super low, but he's not like, engaged.
Engaged. But yeah, we also did the GBS
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test. I'm negative.
I was negative with Rigel too, which is.
Excellent. Is that like a common thing?
Oh yeah. What causes that?
What does it stand for? Group B strep, Group B strep,
it's just a bacteria that everyone, I mean not everyone
has, but people have it all the time and it is not harmful to
us. But if the child's going through
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the birth canal, it can cause some serious issues.
Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't.
People who do test positive are offered antibiotics for the
baby, but it's given to you during labour for the baby to
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have or. A vaccine or like.
A. They put it in your IV OK and
but they want it to get through to the baby so that they can
fight any infection that they would potentially get.
So that's we don't have to do that, but.
Yeah, you don't have to worry about, we don't have to worry
about antibiotics because we, I don't have it, but sometimes
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people opt out or opt in or whatever, but like, it's so
hard. I had someone reached out to me
and asked me about like, should we do the IV?
And I was like, that's a totallypersonal opinion because it's
like, it's so personal. It's so like in your gut, like,
do you feel good or bad about this, you know?
But I'm just glad I don't have to think about it because I'm
negative. And we don't even have to have
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IV hooked up with you, right? Like typically they'll do that
as a preventative measure just to have that hooked up.
Just easy access. I'll have a heplock so I'll have
it connected because I'm not. I'm fine with that.
It doesn't bother me to be to have a needle in my arm or
whatever, but they won't automatically hook me up to
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liquids. Yeah.
Yeah. You happy?
Excited to be a mom of two. I am, yeah.
I think, I think it honestly came out a perfect time.
I mean, we planned it, but you can only plan so much.
But I really think it's like perfect timing.
We've always said that we'll decide on if we have a third
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based off how we feel after the 2nd, so.
I'm not talking about it. So we'll see how this one goes,
but I'm excited. I'm excited for sure.
Yeah. I guess the next time people see
you on a podcast, you'll be you're having a little baby.
When we, I was looking back at some of the, you know, we used
to those live at 5 calls and everything and Rigel was with us
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and all those that we were holding him.
Rigel loves looking at pictures of himself.
He sure does. Like, Oh my goodness, we'll be
in an appointment, so I'll just scroll through pictures to keep
them preoccupied. And it was just crazy how much
she's changed. But we're about to be doing that
round two. I know so.
Wild. But I'm super excited, like
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Roger doesn't really just chill out and like ever.
So I'm super excited to have a little baby that I could just
like stick on my chest and just chill out and just cuddle with
for a little bit, you know? That'll be good.
Be good. You're going to do workouts at
home for the foreseeable future once the baby's born, right?
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Yeah, so the hope is that I can nurse Hazen and leave him with
you and Rachel, and I can just go in the garage, do my thing,
and then if he, Robert needs me,then I can just come in.
Or he can leave one of the kids with me or whatever and I can
finish up. But.
And do a little garage work to make that feasible.
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Yes, we sure do. It's very dirty right now.
Does not look like a gym at the.Moment no sure doesn't so but
it's going to be a little while till I'm like actively in the
gym so. Maybe gets that.
A couple other things that I wasgoing to talk about was just how
I'm feeling as far as like body goes.
And like I've said in the other podcast like this, pregnancy has
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been so different based. On how you feel about yourself.
No, just in general. Like how I feel, how my body
feels and boy pregnancy #2 really smacked me in the face I
feel like. Well, you were like nauseous and
sick throughout this one. Much longer.
Yes, but that was like way earlier, just even in the third
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trimester, just like I had the sciatic pain a little bit
earlier and that actually went away luckily.
But I started having like some pelvic pain and like super tight
ligaments and that was like pulling up on my pelvic bone
like on the left side, just likefeeling like I was going to
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break in two. But but the chiropractor has
changed my life. Like it's literally done so much
for me. I've been seeing them twice a
week for like the last several weeks, like several weeks.
I I started seeing them once a month, then every two weeks,
then it turned to every week, and then it turned into twice a
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week. And it's they have literally
changed the way I feel like. I don't think I would make it
through without them. So if you're experiencing any
pain at all in your body, I would highly recommend a
chiropractor. Like I did not.
Yeah, I mean, I don't, I see a great one.
And she, you know, is Webster certified, but she's also like
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passionate about prenatals and Pediatrics and all of that.
So it's great. I just think it's been so good
for me. So good.
And a game changer. Yeah, yeah, it sure has.
But I definitely feel a lot different.
And Even so far, like leading upto birth, like I did not feel
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anything with Rigel. Like I felt like nothing.
Like I felt like I could be pregnant for another two months
and I was not about to have a baby and I got to 42 weeks.
That happened. That has not happened as of late
with Hazen. Like you, definitely.
Yeah, I definitely am feeling like he's low.
I feel like weird feelings. I've had a lot of Braxton Hicks.
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I've had a little bit of back pain, like all the things that
you think about, like leading up.
I've had a little bit of my plugcome out like just like the
things that you that happen whenbefore you have a baby.
So it's very interesting becauseyou go from having Rigel and
having none of those things to having this one where I'm like,
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OK, I might actually have a vaginal birth.
Like this is so cool. He's not coming out yet, but
it's just my due date. Like I have to remember that
like today is my due date. Like it's normal to go past your
due date. And but yeah, it's pretty cool
that things are actually like moving.
Like I'm have symptoms of like I'm going to give birth.
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So it's cool no matter how it ends up, no matter how it ends
up, it's just cool that I've been able to experience it like
this so far. Now that you've dug into it
more, I'll ask you this questionagain.
And once we actually have the baby.
But do you think you'll you see yourself like getting involved
in that space somehow or another, like becoming a
certified dual or midwife or postpartum or lactation
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consultant or. I definitely am very passionate
about birth and I always have been and I was before I got
pregnant with Rigel. I got more more so with Rigel.
And then my whole brain froze for a while after having had him
and like experiencing his birth and stuff like that really
Jarred me. But now, but then, you know,
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once I kind of like moved on from that and decided like, OK,
with this next baby, I'm going to try for AV back.
I'm going to try for this. I'm going to.
I dug back into it and it was like that like excitement,
passion thing kind of like came out again.
I don't know what that will looklike.
I'd have no idea because it doesn't, I mean, it doesn't
really like blend in with all the things that we have going on
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and I'll be home schooling the kids and you know, things like
that. So like, I don't know what that
will look like. I might be 60 and decide like
that's when I want to start doing it.
I don't know. But I definitely feel like an
excitement and like a passion for being there for other women
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as much as I can, whatever that might look like in the future
days. But yeah, I think being a doula
would be really awesome, like anawesome opportunity.
Well, I like our doulas a lot. They're pretty like super cool.
Like a lot of these appointmentshave been dreaded and they're
just like, not dreaded, but it'slike.
Just monotonous like normal. Yeah.
And I think as a guy, like I don't know if they just don't
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have many of the dads accompany the the moms, but like they
don't typically give me the timeof day, which is kind of
frustrating. Yeah, not the doulas.
Yeah, but the doulas like they're super involved.
It's like look, y'all doing thisas a team, you know?
Like they see so many bursts, like when the dad's not doing
what he's supposed to, it totally.
(39:53):
Makes. Things, you know, not good.
So it's like they they see it asa two party system and it's
like. Yeah, I mean, I, I appreciate
them. I can totally see you doing what
they do with your own style and being a massive advocate for the
mother and the father. And they're being positive.
Yeah. And I think, I mean, just
(40:14):
hopefully I'll have a different experience this time.
But I think having experienced ahospital induction AC section
and hopefully this time we will get to labor as long as we can
at home and have a vaginal birthat a hospital.
(40:37):
And then if we decide to have another one, we might have a
home birth. Like it would be cool to have
all these experiences and be able to like relate to more
people. And yeah, just like that
excitement. I don't know, I just I have that
excitement for that this kind ofstuff.
And like, I don't know, maybe that'll fade away as that's not
like where I am in life, but I feel like women are just like
(41:00):
super cool. Like we are just they're, we're
so cool. We ought to have a third kid,
like out in the woods. Can you not?
And that'd be cool. No, I don't really want to give
birth in the woods. Like a hunting trip and then I
come back with like, this elk meat and then you're like about
to have a baby. And then we like have a baby.
(41:20):
And then it's just we're all wearing animal skins.
Nope, I think I'll pass. Be pretty savage.
I bet it would be. Oh, babe, I'm super proud of
you. It's cool.
For me. I like watching people suffer as
I know it was weird as that may sound, but you, you see what
people are made of when they're pushed up against the wall and
(41:43):
when they're on the brink of giving up.
And I don't like seeing you in pain, but I like seeing you in
pain, you know, like I liked watching you suffer during the
50 mile March. We did that.
I liked watching you go through your prep and I'm excited to see
you labor with our kid, our son,and then pull through it and
(42:04):
just see the strength that you've had to, you know, muster
up to do that successfully. And I'm just super proud of you.
You're like, you're an awesome mother.
I mean, since the moment I met you, I'm like, this is the best
mother I could ever hope for formy future kids.
And you just continue to live that out for the years we've
known each other. And I'm excited for you to do it
(42:25):
again with Hazen. And I'm, I'm grateful for you
and proud of you. I love you all my heart, babe.
Love you too. Anything else?
Any parting thoughts? I don't think so.
We can hear our kid out there being crazy with my sister and I
should probably go wrangle him. Yeah, it's been a little while
and she's, he's been going berserk out there, so we'll go
(42:45):
see what he's what Mischief. He's got himself into him.
Yeah, babe, we'll about to have a baby.
Let's do the damn thing. Yeah, do it.
We'll see you next time when we have a baby in our arms.
Yes indeed. Love you.
Love you.
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