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What flavor you got today I. Got a CRAN Raspberry.
I bought the the variety pack ofthe new flavors.
I'm a I'm a fan of CRAN Raspberry.
I think that Redmond CRAN Apple is my favorite.
That's a good one. That's a good one.
I think that was a seasonal kindof a yeah, small batch release
of that. Yeah, I like it, man.
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We have today's Tuesday. We didn't film on Monday because
I was travelling. Did the March.
Did the 50 mile March. We can talk about that.
We got some competition stuff talking about.
We just did a launch. We had a busy weekend, man.
It was eventful. It was eventful.
On a lot of different. Topics Let's start with the
March because my feet are feeling it.
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So I went to Nebraska, linked upwith Jamie Seaman, her husband
Ben Seaman and Joe Wilson and Jonathan Shane came with us and
we did the 50 mile March for veterans. fiftymilemarch.org.
We basically marched from Lincoln to Omaha, NE through the
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night. We start at 2:00 PM and we
finished 22 hours later through the night. 22 hours represents
22 vets that take their lives daily and we raised over
750,000. I'm not sure what the number is
right now, but it was 750,757 thousand or something last time.
Look, that's. Great.
But it was more than just you guys.
It was a whole. It was 100 and some people.
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Yeah, there was 166 of us that March and I think we had like
78910 that dropped out throughout the March.
But one of our best finishing, Imean, we'd had a lot of people
drop out last year 'cause last year it was like, so they
changed the route this year. I've done it five years in a row
now. It's been going on six years.
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The original walkers, there was only six of them.
Then the next year there was like 38 of us.
And I was in that group. And then I've just done it every
year since. And this was the 6th year, but
last year and every year other than this year.
The rat has always been from thesteps at the Capitol in Lincoln,
NE on the highway the whole timeto Omaha, NE.
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Through the night. Through the night.
But just like on the highway, I mean, you're walking on the
shoulder of the highway the whole way.
It's like feet on the pavement. And last year it was obnoxiously
hot and humid and we had people dropping pretty frequently
throughout the entire March. I mean, we had people like we, I
remember we were going up the hill, there's like 1 hill the
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very last mile and you go up that hill and then that's where
everybody greets us the finish. But there was one guy that was
literally walking up that hill and trying to stop walking and
be like done with it. And that's.
Literally like physically like he was.
Done and like Jonathan and some other guy grabbed each shoulder
and like drunk him up the hill for the last little bit but this
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year they changed the realm and it was like 30 miles of it was
on like this scenic wooded outdoors trail with like, you
know chipped limestone as the asthe.
Foundation so. Much more forgiving on your
feet. And this was the by far the
easiest year physically for me. I mean, I was hurting by the end
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of it. By like mile 20.
You're hurting. But yeah, I wasn't near the
suffering that I had in years. Probably the first year that I
was on crutches for a week after.
Oh, man. And like today, I went for a
run. They had some, they had some
prepping protocols and stuff in place or.
Yeah. So this year they got a lot
stricter with everything becausethere's more marchers, more
safety hazards. So everybody had to do a A20
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mile qualifier ruck. So we did that several months
back. So 20 miles at a certain time
with a certain weighted pack. So I knocked that out several
months ago and then I've just been, most people that do it are
local to that area. So they'll have like planned
practice rocks. I've seen those online and
they'll meet up. And do like 10 miles on a
weekend. I'm in Arkansas obviously, so I
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didn't do those. But I was trying to walk a lot
more the month of August. So I've been running 2 miles in
the morning, every morning, trail runs to kind of work on my
ankles. You got some crazy creaking on
your chair there, Chip, You hearme?
I don't think. Hopefully the mics don't.
Be I don't think the mics pick it up, but I can pick it up.
I get some DVD 40 over there andand then on the weekends I would
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walk a longer distance. So first weekend in August, I
did 5 miles, then 10 miles, then15 miles, then you and I did the
last one before the March itself, which was like 22 miles
that I did. And then you did ten of those
with Yeah, I did have to or 11 Iguess.
And yeah, so my feet felt great.There's like basically there was
6 legs of the trip. And then you have like sometimes
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an hour, sometimes 30 minutes, there's 190 minute stop in
between. And that's basically like you
get there and there's like a massive support staff there.
So like they have your chairs ready to rock.
They have like, you know, electrolytes ready, coffee
ready, you know, food for peopledoing that.
And you just, you know, priorities of work, they call it
you check your feet, make sure you doctor any blisters up.
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But my protocol was I would justmy I've got it dialed in this
five years I've done it now. So basically I put salty
britches, which is like this Lube that you just goob up all
around your toes, up in your junk up in your.
Anywhere there would be. Chafing, you just Lube up with
them. And then I put like these really
nice compression socks on and I didn't even take my socks off
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after I put them on. So normally people take their
socks off and doctor aired theirfeet up at each stop.
I just gooped up, put my socks on and I never took my socks off
the whole time. Like I could tell that I didn't
have any blisters. So I felt great and I would just
get to the spot, get some electrolytes in me, take my
shoes off, elevate my feet, put my little eye mask on and close
my eyes for as long as I had before.
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It was like 20 minutes till we started again.
Then I would put my shoes back on, goob up and then.
Start walking nice, did it. Cool off during the night like
you guys walked through the night did it.
Cool off. The weather was awesome this
year. I mean, it was like much cooler.
There was a cold front that camein the day prior and it rained a
bunch, so it's a little humid, but it was much cooler.
So the weather wasn't crazy. It wasn't like 100° like it has
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been in years prior. I think it was like 80° the
majority of the time and then atnight it cools down to like 50
or 60, so kind of chilly I. Mean you're wearing like that'd
be comfortable. It's comfortable, but you got
like a layer of sweat on you. So like you're cold.
So like you're, I'm putting likemy, you know, hoodie and
everything on to kind of stay warm.
And then we walk in those stentsand then like we walk to the
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longest stent was just under 12 miles and there's like a little
break in between. But in that little break there
was no chairs. There was, it wasn't like a
formal break. It just like a little little
breathe it before the rest of it.
But most of the stents were like10 miles, that 11 mile, 12 mile
1. And there's a couple of shorter
ones like 7 miles. But yeah, there was one guy,
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man, he's got my full respect. He doesn't have use of his legs.
He's like a veteran that doesn'thave the use of his legs.
He did the whole thing in a wheelchair.
Manual just. Yeah, there's footage of him
going up this gravel hill in a freaking wheelchair, just like
with his hands. And I'm like, man, no matter how
bad my feet are hurting, I'll look at him and I'm like, I have
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nothing to complain about. Yeah, if he can do it, you got
nothing to complain about. It is crazy man, like it is
totally all mental. I mean that first year I did it
I didn't prep it all. I bought a pair of shoes, didn't
break them in, didn't wear socks.
I mean, like my feet were blistered and bloodied by the
first leg and by the end of it Ifelt like I was walking on club
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feet and that's when I was doingthat one mile run every.
Day. So like the last 10 miles, I ran
one of those miles with like club feet, man.
I was just. I was hurting.
That was a good lesson. Yeah, so I, I conditioned my
feet a little better now and I got everything dialed in with
the socks and what gear I need, but 50 miles is no joke, man.
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Like it, it's a it's a lot. It's.
Pretty impressive and. Then Jonathan and I did push ups
at every stop. So we did 50 push ups every stop
and it was cool man. It was cool.
Nice. So we're going to talk to him to
do it next year. Who?
Me. Yeah.
OK, you're not in prep next year.
That's true. And it's cool is Jamie, Ben, Joe
and Jonathan are all in prep. So they were hitting their
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macros and everything throughoutit all.
And then one year I did, it was like we did the March the day
before my peak week started. So I was super depleted at that
point, but the lighter you are because you're leaner, the
easier. It is, I'm sure.
Yep. So so do you.
Did you eat anything to offset all that caloric burn or you
just let it? I was pretty much like, so I'm
doing the ultra day fasting right now.
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So the day before the March was a feeding day for me.
So I had an extra 1000 calories.So it was like 6500 calories for
me that day. And then I didn't eat it all the
day the first day of the March. And then once it hit the next
day, I had like a little bit of food during the March and then
like not much like 1 brick I think, and then a meat stick.
And then we had steaks that night.
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So but yeah, I, I dropped 5 lbs after the March was over.
I had like 100 and 507,000 steps.
Wow. The estimated caloric
expenditure was like 10,000. That's crazy.
So yes, it's pretty brutal, man.That's a good day.
Pretty what? What shocks me though, is like,
I'll start and I'm looking at everybody, kind of not sizing
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them up because it's not like it's a competition, Like we're
doing this for the veterans. But I'll look at people and I'm
like, man, they've got, you know, they're carrying a lot of
extra weight. I'm watching them move and
there's like obvious, you know, stress on their joints because
they're like hobbling and they just have, they're carrying
weight and they're carrying a lot of extra body fat.
And I'm like, there's no way they're going to make this.
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And they do, man, they do. It blows my mind.
And then you have somebody that's like fit and trim and
lean and winds up bowing out. You know, you never know.
It's all mindset. Yeah, for mental game,
definitely. Yeah, we'll do it.
We'll do it again next year. You'll you'll do it Wednesday
and you'll see all. That could maybe, maybe that
could be a retreat or something.Or we'll get a group Keto Savage
group. Yeah, a little savage retreat.
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Do some marching, raise some money for vets.
I'm all for it. OK, Speaking of retreats, yeah,
we're going to do another. One, we were talking about that
just the other day. Yeah, So we're going to talk
about this on the live call tonight for the tribe, but we're
going to. So we did a a, a retreat this
year in February with Bill Schindler.
Awesome. And the way we've kind of
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formatted him is I'll book out abig Airbnb that everybody can
stay in. We'll have one expert speaker
cap it at like 15 people tops. And it just be like the whole
weekend and much more intimate, like we're all staying in the
same place. It's just way better that as
opposed to like a massive conference where it's just like
you're just a number. There's a place for those two.
Obviously, I enjoy going to them.
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I enjoy speaking at them. I enjoy supporting them, but I
like more of the intimate setting.
So we we did the one with Bill Schindler, which was awesome in
February. And we're going to start doing
those probably on a quarterly basis, but we'll probably not do
it third quarter because the competition will be typically in
September and then fourth quarters up in the area because
that's kind of when the holidayskick up, Thanksgiving,
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Christmas. But first and second quarter for
sure going forward, we'll have aSavage retreat and the next one
may be some type of obstacle course run where we just all get
a big Airbnb and sign up for like a Spartan Race or?
Go rough mudder or whatever. Or something.
So we'll get that dialed in and that'll probably be we might do
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one fourth quarter this year or we might just hold it off and do
first quarter next year, but that'll be in the works.
For sure I'm in. Definitely in for that.
Yeah. Speaking of the competition, Jay
Shane just left here. He's headed home, but he dropped
a pretty cool, exciting announcement regarding the
competitor swag bags for our competition in September.
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Our swag bags are going to be next.
Man, I was just doing the math on like, what's going to be in
there and you're going to get more stuff in your swag bag than
it even cost you to register to compete.
Yeah, and it's not like cheesy stuff that you'll never use.
Like a lot of times I'll go to ashow and I'll get a swag bag.
It's like a, it's like a crappy bag with like 100% polyester
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like shirt that's been like heatstamped and then like some
supplements that I would never use this.
Or like bars? Or like a.
Bar like a yeah, so stuff I would never really use this year
we I mean what is the dollar value add currently?
It's like 180 bucks or somethinglike that in climbing.
So so you're going to get well Jay Shane, he is he's the man
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behind performance gains supplements and he just dropped
a new flavour. He's dropped two flavours now of
his sleepy supplement, Peaceful Dreams, I guess it's called, and
he's going to give everybody a full size canister and that's
like 50 bucks, 40-50 bucks. And then Redmond relight, I had
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to call with them yesterday. They're giving everybody a full
size canister of relight immunity and a full size
canister of relight energy. There's, you know, 9000 bucks.
So no single serve. Non single serve, no, but
they're also going to give everybody A7 stick pack, sampler
pouch and that's another, I don't know, 20 bucks whatever.
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And we've got keto brains on board.
They're stocking everybody. They're we're giving everybody
samples of keto brains, nootropic coffee Creamer and the
creatine stick packs that they just dropped.
They're 5 milligrams of creatinemonohydrate and a travel
friendly little stick pack, which is amazing.
What else we got? We got obviously you're going to
get a shirt. Shirt The swag bag itself is
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like nice. Like it's like a fabric, not
like one of those plasticky ones, a branded water bottle
that my uncle's making for us. And then we got a full keto
brick obviously. So that'll be in there.
The shirts are the ones that we're printing in house, so high
end shirts and. And we've got some other
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promotional bar. Yeah.
Oh yeah, we've got a carnivore bar, yeah, full size carnivore
bar, which is top notch, thanks to them.
And there's all the some other promotional stuff in there for
some local like Relax and Renew Med Spa here in Farmington and
Competitor's Edge Massage, Competitor's Edge Massage
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Massage. They're throwing in some goodies
and it just keeps getting biggerand bigger and better.
So I'm. Pretty sure.
I'm excited to be in the show just for the swag bag.
I mean, not really, but it's going to be, you're going to get
a stockpile. So this is my first year as
promoter, obviously, and you've been helping me a lot get
everything organized because youand I both competed a bunch.
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I've judged a bit. It's OK.
I know what a good show looks like.
And I want to do that and then some.
And initially, like it's like, man, we don't have very many
registrations. Like I'm there's a lot of things
moving pieces that haven't come together yet.
Like hopefully it'll be good. Hopefully it won't, but I'm
going all in with it. But now a month down, this
show's going to be bad and fast,man.
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Like we've got so much support, so much branded everything, like
regardless of how many competitors we have.
And I think we'll have a pretty good turn out.
We've got pretty good turn out. Already registered for the first
show, which is awesome. But like, whoever's there is
going to be treated like freaking royalty.
Excited they're. Just going to keep spreading the
positive word of mouth and it's going to be a good thing this.
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Is going to be the kind of show where this is the inaugural
year. This is going to be the kind of
show where people that compete in it are going to be like,
Dang, that was awesome. I want to try to keep that one
on my calendar for next season or the following season or
whenever they compete again. That's kind of how I felt when I
went to I'm actually wearing theshirt.
The Wisconsin Warrior, Tony and Courtney Spaeth put that one on
and that was the kind of show I helped out backstage several
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years expediting. And I always thought, man, they
do it. This is a fun show.
It's high energy, the music is awesome, the lighting is
awesome. It's in a Performing Arts Center
that's like top of the line, cutting edge, modern.
It was just a really exciting, awesome experience.
Versus going to some old smelly gymnasium or like conference
room in a hotel or whatever. And they have to build the stage
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and they have to bring the lights in and they got speakers
on stands and all that kind of stuff, which I'm not, I'm not
talking down on. I'm just saying like when you
compare the 2 and that's what this yours is going to be like
that it's going to be. We spared no expense.
Like the venue is the best venueI can get.
Like everything is just the best.
Like if my name's on and I want it to be just like we're
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striving for excellence here andI feel like we'll be able to
deliver that. And we and we had the top of the
line, one of the awesomest hotels in our mind like we were
going to go do. What was the name of that one
it? Was booked.
It was like the graduate, I think, yeah.
Yeah, and it was it was right onpar with the kind of standards
we're trying to set. And it just so happened that
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they were booked out and had it all set up for a football game
in town. So, but let's keep them in mind.
Maybe next year that'd. Be awesome.
Yeah, Because it's like a Notre Dame football game that same
weekend. All the hotels were booked
except for the one we got. And that from a convenience
standpoint's be perfect. That's actually going to work
really, really well because it'swithin walking distance from
Mozart Gym. Right off the the highway from
people flying in, not far from the airport, right off, I mean
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literally within walking distance to the gym, which is
the host gym, which is where we're going to be doing the
tanning and the competitor checkinsurance on Friday.
And I think competitors can liftfor free.
So that's cool. But so the convenience with the
hotels is there. I don't know what I've never
stayed at that hotel. So hopefully the quality is
there too. That's the only thing that I
don't know for. Sure.
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Realistically speaking, though, you're not spending a whole lot
of time there. Yeah.
You come in, you tear off the bed sheets, you put your own
sheets on there, you get a good night's sleep, and then
everything else you know happens.
We got to think of something cool to do the next day on
Sunday for anybody that's in town still and wants to link up.
Well, some people will have photo shoots.
I've got a photo shoot at Ozark.Yeah, and whoever else has
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signed up for the full blown photo shoot that'll happen
there. But yeah, after that, it'd be
awesome if we could. Maybe we can do.
The game together I. Don't know, we'll think of
something cool. I'll do some brainstorming but
like the food is going to be legit too.
Oh yeah. Oh man, so.
I think we mentioned this previously, there's been some
more details added. So my dad is coming in.
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He's going to be bringing his massive smoker that he built.
He's going to have 16 pork buttsin there.
He's going to start smoking thaton Friday and he's going to have
the trailer, the smoker, like everything there at the
footsteps of the venue. And then Stan, who was at Bill
Chandler's retreat, he's got, hedoes all regenerative
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agriculture. He does it right.
Like he rotates everything. Like he's giving us a full farm
tour. Like he does it as it's supposed
to be done. And he's got these chickens that
are like meat bird chickens thathe was raised, rotated, done the
whole chicken tractor thing. He, he moved him like twice a
day, every single day throughouttheir bringing up process.
He charges 27 bucks a bird for those things basically.
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So significantly higher quality than what you're going to get at
any groceries. Yeah, it's not golden plum.
Yeah, we're going to. We, we bought a bunch of those.
And he's going to be on site cooking the chicken.
So all the competitors, all the judges.
And as long as supplies last, the attendees will have smoked
pork butt and grilled chicken. That's like super high quality.
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That'll be awesome. That'll be good.
That'll be so I'm I'm stoked it's coming up quick.
It's only we're barely over a month out.
Yeah, like it's right around thecorner.
I think 32 days or 31 days, something like that.
So if you're still on the fence about registering, definitely
get registered. Swag bags are going to be legit.
Plus we're doing a weekly drawing for any registrants that
we have signed up to win some extra goodies day of show and
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it's going to be, it's going to be an experience.
Naturalstatesavages.com. It's going to be good.com.
What else is new? So while I was marching, I
called you. It was like literally the final
March, the final mile of on Sunday.
Yeah, on Sunday, as I'm walking up that last hill before I
pressed that hill to be met by the greeting party, I called you
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at 11:50. And since I was marching and not
at the computer, you were filling in for me, and you made
the Keto Brooks live on the site.
And we launched for the first time ever both Carnivore Cake
Bop and Carnivore Primal Fudge simultaneously because like
we've launched them both independently and that's always
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gone over well. But people are always like, man,
I wish they were both up there for the same at the same time.
So I can just stock up on carnivore bricks.
So we had both ingredients on hand.
So we just made a solid batch ofboth flavors.
Yeah, we got both Primal Fudge and Cake pop up for grabs right
now, so. Still in stock.
Yeah, still in stock and that was the first time I've ever not
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been the one on the computer forthe launch.
So that was a little nerve wracking, but.
It was fun. You rocked it.
Yeah, you rocked it. It's not a not a tricky task.
Also, Speaking of cake pop, we've got a different style
tallow in a lot of those. We should mention that.
Yeah. So the Primal Fudge was made
with the tile that we've been using, the Carnivore cake pump
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that we made the week prior to last week was made with the tile
that we've been using, the cake pump that was produced with I
think production dates of August18th, 19th.
No, I think it's 19th, 20th and 21st.
So those three dates, if you have a cake pop, you look over
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on the package by date or package date and it says 1920 or
21. Those were made with a new
variation of the tallow. So same supplier, but same, same
high quality tallow, grass fed, finished all that good stuff,
but different rendering process.So this tallow, because it was
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rendered differently, it's got alittle bit less moisture
activity. All the tallow is well below the
USDA guidelines and whatnot. So you've been good there.
But like this one that was even lower, which means the texture
is a little bit different. It's a little bit more solid,
not near as much as the cacao based bricks, but more so than
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some of these later based tallowbricks.
So it's a little bit harder and a little bit more stable in that
regard. And it's just a little bit
different from a taste and texture standpoint.
I believe this rendering processhas even higher additional
profile. Yeah, superior.
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So it's always kind of curious to see how people respond and
what the feedback is from that, but.
I like the new version better, to be honest.
And I like cake pop. It's not my favorite flavour the
the previous tallow, it's not myfavorite flavour just 'cause I
like other ones even more. But this might be, it's up
there. Yeah, it's right up in there.
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So the cake pop, I like to eat out of the refrigerator.
So when it's cold and it's got awhole new flavour profile and
texture, when it's cold, this new tallow, it's pretty Dang
good. Yeah, so if you get one of those
bricks, let us know what you think, 'cause we're always
trying to just push the envelopeand get better and better and
better, again, striving for excellence.
So if any of y'all get cake pop made with those three dates, let
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us know how you like them relative to the other variations
of cake pop. The macros are all the same.
Yeah, I mean all the profiles all the same.
It's just slightly different rendering process which resulted
in different texture and slight variation in taste.
But everybody that I've had sampled thus far has been a fan
so. So I'm excited about it.
So we'll see. Me too.
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It's always nerve wracking though when you like put out a
product and wait for feedback, you know, but hope it's all
positive. It's also getting cooler outside
like this week it was a cold front came in.
It's like 80° right now. Yeah, even yesterday was like
when I left, it was 66. Yeah, So hopefully we are on the
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tail end of people getting melted bricks.
And like, I hate the melted bricks.
Like I hate people getting melted bricks.
But like, there's not really anyway to hedge against that unless
we start packaging with dry ice.And that would get crazy
expensive for everybody. We might offer that next year.
It's like this, you know, super expensive shipping option.
But the new packaging obviously keeps it from leaking and then
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people can pop it in the fridge.And that's honestly how I kind
of like to eat. Yeah, the new packaging isn't
isn't intended to keep them frommelting, to keep them from
leaking if they do melt. Exactly.
But again, there's only four months out of the year where
it's like high risk of melting, so hopefully we're on the tail
end of that and people can startgetting bricks that look like
bricks instead of blocks. So should be beautiful,
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beautiful. I didn't see you all weekend.
Anything new and exciting in your world?
Hiked 11 miles at Devil's Den. I saw that, yeah.
That was mugged in you. I.
Did not get injured, but some ofmy favorite trails were still
closed and I'm assuming they're the one, the one or the ones
connected to what they're still investigating out there.
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You hadn't heard there was a multiple murder situation last
month? That's some of the not a trail.
I think it was last month. July, wasn't it?
Yeah. Or was it in August?
I forget, but I had tried to go out there the previous weekend
and everything was roped off, caution tape doing how to enter.
And I saw they posted something online earlier last week that
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they were going to reopen some of the trails.
So I zipped out, zipped down there and went for an 11 mile
hike. And I wasn't planning on going
11 miles and it took me almost 41/2 five hours ish.
But once I started going, I justwas like man, this is just
great. Just loving the outdoor, the
weather, the fresh air, the sunlight.
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But I found myself hitting some of the trails that snaked way
off, like off the beaten path. 0phone service, 0 people, 0 trail
maintenance. And I was every so often I would
get like a weird chill, you know, from like head to toe.
And I'm like, OK, my instincts are telling me something might
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something might be watching me right now, you know, like, you
just get that weird irky feeling.
So I would stop and I'd look around and I don't want
something like praying on me from up in a tree or, you know,
because I was in obviously wilderness country.
And I'm thinking, man, I need toget like, I carry a knife.
I, I have hesitated to carry my gun just because I don't have
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like a real comfortable way to carry it right now when I'm
hiking and sweaty and hot. And you know, so I'm thinking
maybe I should just get some bear spray because they make
some pretty decent, you know, long range bear spray deterrent
sprays, something that'll just take care of any type of
wildlife. But I made it.
I'm thinking even if I had to send a text right now, no go.
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Not happening. No go.
There's something good about that though, man.
Like there it was. So peaceful, yeah.
Just not, not if nobody could reach me, if there was like my
phone risk was not going to go off.
Yeah, I feel like, like when youget off the beaten path, because
I experienced this when I'm hunting a lot, like there's no
cell service, nobody could find me if I needed them to.
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So there's like this element of risk involved, but I feel like
that is liberating. Like men especially, like we
need to have risk where like it all is on you to get back
safely. And I feel like, I feel like we
need that, you know it. Was it was cool.
And then when I made the huge long loop and came back and
started hearing voices and I wasgetting closer to the campground
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and everything, I could smell bacon and I'm like, all right,
I'm back. OK, I made it and survived.
But made it and survived. It's good.
Yeah. I want to start doing like off
the grid, like back country hunting where it's like you go
out there, you pack everything you need in your bag and you're
just like off the grid, dude. Like I was listening to a book
and it was staged in Alaska and they were doing Caribou hunting
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in Alaska. Like where they have to
literally get flown in via. One of the huddle jumpers float
plane. Yeah, and like, like they, the
plane's not coming back for three weeks, you know, so like
they scheduled to pick you up inthree weeks.
So you do everything and then you meet back there and
hopefully you meet back there, yeah.
You're either there or not. Yeah, yeah.
So like something like that I I could totally.
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Get behind. I've been in the Boundary Waters
several times. Actually.
The first time I think I went when I was a kid in church youth
group and they took a whole bunch of us out.
And that was my first introduction into the Boundary
Waters way up in northern Minnesota, kind of borderline of
Canada. But that's pretty sweet.
It's a pretty country. Oh, man, it's and there's,
there's, you see, you see, no wires?
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No, it's phone towers, no power lines.
You don't hear any motors because you go in where there's
no motors allowed. You pack everything in that
you're going to take in, and youhave to make sure you have room
to bring whatever you don't use or don't eat or trash back out
with you. You're on your own.
Like you have a map, You have the Portage from lake to lake.
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Everything that you have in yourcanoe or on your body, you have
to carry. Some of those portages were
several miles. So you're carrying a canoe on
your shoulders. You got a huge like Duluth pack
on your back and then your turtle pack, I guess they call
it. So you have another huge stuffed
pack on the front of you. So it helps kind of balance you
forward to forward to backward and you're just huffing it up.
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Some of these steep inclines, they're rocky terrain.
They're not maintained. No one takes care of them.
It's pretty wild. And then you come out and you're
like, holy crap. It's a whole new part of the
world that you just never reallyget to experience when you're
surrounded by technology and hustle bustle.
Yeah, it's such a distraction. Like phones are just, I mean,
they're a great tool, but like, man, there's such a distraction.
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And like people, they don't evenknow how to not look at their
phone. Like when you get on elevator
and everybody just automatically, like you get
multiple people on elevator, like nobody even looks at them.
You don't even. I know you don't even interact
with people anymore, even on thestreet.
Like I've been trying to go out of my way to just interact with
random strangers on a day-to-daybasis.
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You know, if I see someone I'll smile or say hey or nice shirt
or something like that. Because half the time society
now you encounter a stranger andinstead of initiating any type
of individual contact, you just look down or you look away.
It's like society needs a little.
It's weird though, man, like talking about, you know, that
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mugging that happened and I don't know that situation.
So this is not really a good example, but just like mugging
in general, like people getting robbed, people getting broken
into, people just, you know, being harmed.
It's like so much of that, not all of it, but a lot of that
could be resolved simply by likehow you carry yourself because
like so many people look like victims, like easy targets, like
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they're hunched over. They're.
Looking at they're not paying attention.
They're not observant and they just look like prey, you know,
where as if you walk around withyour chin up, your shoulders
back, making eye contact, havinga firm handshake.
Like we take that for granted. But nobody ever really messes
with me. And I'm not a tall guy.
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Like I don't feel like I look very like intimidating, but
nobody ever messes with me. I think a large part of that
simply because I carry myself with.
It's your demeanor, yeah. Yeah, and I feel like if you
carry yourself with confidence, your people are less likely to
mess with you because like, OK, that guy's got something going
on. I'm not going to, he's not going
to be my first target to go try and attack and agree something,
you know. So yeah, how you carry yourself
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is key. And you can't carry yourself
well if you're constantly looking at your phone.
That's true. Attracted.
So there's that. But I think they teach a lot of
that in like martial arts and like jiu jitsu and stuff.
Like when I put Rigel in jiu jitsu, at some point, he's
probably going to get the conversation of like, look, this
is how you carry yourself, you know, from the instructor.
I'll have that conversation withhim too.
But that'd be good. I'm excited about that.
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I had a dream about jiu jitsu last.
Really. Yeah.
I had a dream that I went to my first jiu jitsu class and
everybody was like, don't mess with that guy.
I'm like, I don't even know whatI'm doing.
So. That'll be fun.
Are you gonna, are you gonna do jiu jitsu with him when he's in
class? Or I don't know, I gotta go
there and like see how that's involved.
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Like I I wouldn't just drop him and leave him, but I'm pretty
sure it's like age 3 to 5 and they'll be a dedicated
instructor there. I don't know if they have other
classes going on simultaneously.What would be cool is if they
had like an adult class and thatclass going on the same time
that he and I can both go into our own classes.