Why the Foods You Eat Are Failing You (And The Supplements To Take To Fix It!)

Are the foods you eat secretly sabotaging your health? In this compelling episode of the Savage Perspective Podcast, host Robert Sikes sits down with health expert Zoe Karli to uncover why even the "healthiest" diets may fall short. Discover how poor food quality and nutrient gaps could be holding you back from the energy, focus, and vitality you deserve. Together, Robert and Zoe dive into the must-have supplements that can help restore balance, enhance brain function, and support your long-term well-being. If you're looking for practical solutions, this episode delivers everything you need to know.

In episode 784, Robert and Zoe dissect the science behind supplements like Z83 and essential nutrients like Vitamin D3, breaking it down so it's easy to understand and apply to your life. Zoe shares her expertise on bridging the gap between modern diets and the body's true nutritional needs while Robert shares personal insights on overcoming health challenges. Whether you're a fitness enthusiast, entrepreneur, or someone ready to improve their well-being, this conversation is filled with the tools to help you live better and achieve your goals.

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Chapters:

0:00 The Vital Role of Supplements for Health & Brain Power

2:03 Lessons from a Military Upbringing: Resilience & Work Ethic

8:33 Life-Altering Seizures, a Brain Tumor, & Overcoming Challenges

18:53 Women’s Health: Self-Care, Medication, and Balance

24:11 Balancing Family, Entrepreneurship, and Health Goals

29:52 Turning Tough Childhood Lessons into Strength

35:29 Big Problems, Big Rewards: The Power of Innovation

37:26 Cutting-Edge Cellular Therapies & AI in Medicine

46:40 Improving Nutrition & Launching Game-Changing Products

54:20 Must-Have Supplements for Longevity and Energy

59:49 Protein, Diet Hacks, and Creative Meal Prep for Success

Episode Transcript

(00:00):
We're deficient in so much and food sources are poor and
lacking in nutritional values. When you lack in something, you
need to turn to how can you supplement?
How can you improve? What can you give the body that
it needs that it's not getting? Supplementation is important.
It's not that I want to live to be 150 years old, but the

(00:20):
duration in which I do live, I want my bones, my joints, my
body, my brain, everything to work well.
There's a novel product which iscalled Z 83.
It's nootropic, so it works on the brain.
It's an interesting combination of just three products.
It's very simple. It helps to energize you.
There is caffeine in it. But then there's two other

(00:42):
ingredients that are natural plant extracts that work
together to influence your brainin reaction time, your mood.
I know there's plenty of people that say, oh that's a bunch of
BS and supplements don't work. No, they do.
And we are live. Zoe, how are you today?
Oh, I'm good. Hey, thank you so much.
I appreciate you welcoming here.Now I'm excited to be chatting

(01:05):
with you. So you've got an interesting
bank. So I got your, your, your pitch
from the agency. And like, I was reading through
it and it's like, OK, you've gone through hardship, you've
had adversity, you're strugglingwith seizures.
It's like you've overcome that. You're working alongside your
husband and your entrepreneurialjourneys.
So am I with my wife. It's like we got a lot in common
here. So give me some back story on
the seizures. OK, good.
Well, I have to prep the audience.

(01:27):
Sometimes I cry, sometimes I don't.
So I got my I got my tissues right here.
I might I might not rockets here, but so it was interesting
just just to give a very quick recap because it is a lot longer
of a story and but so come from a military background moved just
know how to handle chaos change.Hey, too bad.

(01:49):
Toughen up their buttercup. We learned that as kids growing
up that life isn't going to stop.
Slow down, be nicer, be gentler.It's just not just because
you're here and it's just not the way the world works.
So both my parents, my dad and my mom, prior military, both
retired as captain. So we, they deployed, we moved.

(02:12):
I mean, I grew up in 3 or 4 different states.
I never lived in one place longer than three years until I
actually until I met my husband and got married and then I was
like, wow, 5, we're working on five years in the same place.
What do I do? Ability for me, but I thrived on
that. I guess I was just a natural,
like a kid that was naturally independent.

(02:34):
Yeah, loyal and could be a part of something.
But then also could be like I I thrived in independent sports,
running. I also thrived on team sports to
be able to bring in your talent.So I say that as a background
just because naturally military kids already experience
adversity and change and challenge.

(02:55):
And most, most people, especially in with parents like
mine, where they had a progressive track record where
we did have to move DC, Colorado, Florida back and
forth, Boston school education, all kinds of stuff.
And you don't really get a choice.
So I think what parent, what a lot of military parents either

(03:17):
struggle with or do a really good job with is, hey, I'm
married into the lifestyle. I chose to have kids.
This is what we do. And then my little brother, the
little one was little, little, and then the littlest one was
actually born in Italy. So and the, the 48 months they
were there, my dad was pretty much deployed for 36.

(03:39):
He barely even made it back for the birth of the second kid.
So you just learn you, you learnthat we, we can do pick and cry
and complain. And what was me, it just doesn't
do any good. So I, I actually like change and
actually thrive really well and chaos and less stability.

(04:00):
Because for me, when you, when you get through significant
challenges, think about the rewards on the other end of that
and well, think about the lessons that you learned.
Where else are you going to get lessons?
And part of that is just challenging life.
So I, I always tried to say, OK,if anytime I let something, if I

(04:21):
think about something as it's done to me, it's always harder.
So I, I always challenge people.Why would you think that
something is being done to you? Why don't you just shift it?
Because as soon as you shift that definition, you can change
your mindset and how you tackle it is that maybe it's being done
for you or with you or maybe an inadvertent way of teaching you

(04:45):
something. So I, I've always tried to look
at it that way. I don't know if I was taught
that or just being exposed to it.
I just absorbed it or not reallysure can't answer that question,
but I can at least say that thatmindset any time I have my
little beginnings of a pity party, I always think to myself
as soon as that sets in, like why me?

(05:08):
You know, this now leads into the seizures.
Why? Before we could do the seizures,
did you, did you ever like read a bunch of Stoic writings or
anything like that, like Stoic mentality?
Because what you describe there is like the perfect definition
of Stoicism. So I would assume that you've
no, no, it just came natural. I don't I.
Don't know, I guess just being born into the kind of family

(05:28):
that I was. I will say this though, so my my
dad taught lots of things, but two things that from from an
early age and I remember gettingthe book and I was like, holy
reading this book. I remember Scott Impec and it
taught you how to delay gratification.
And what kid wants to delay gratification?

(05:49):
What does that even mean to a kid?
Kids are so selfish. Naturally they can't do things
on their own. Look at your look at your little
kiddos or one on the way and andthe little guy, but they can't
go operate the microwave yet andfix their own food.
And you know, you're teaching them how to do things by
themselves. So the world does revolve around

(06:09):
them and there's a balance and ashift in that.
So no, not, not particularly, but that delay of gratification.
And then the other thing that healways taught me was, and I was
very fortunate that I technically have three parents,
but they all taught me work ethic.
And without work ethic, what do you, what do you have?

(06:30):
What are you here for? To do nothing.
So to do things and to be great and to achieve whatever your
goals are and whatever your definition of success is takes
action. It takes work.
And if you don't have that mindset and that work ethic,
then like I said, what do you, what do you have?
What are you going to achieve? What legacy are you going to
leave? What's your purpose?

(06:50):
How are you going to figure it out?
So I don't know, I guess just through osmosis and part of it
was just the nature in which I was raised in which was a
military family. I, I didn't have a choice.
And I'm very fortunate that I had tough parents, but tough,
loving parents. And so that's just sort of what

(07:12):
I've always been around is I always had a rock.
But Dang, I, we used to call it,we laughed and called it had to
spend some time in the chair. So my dad was a big believer
that you learned and you could do by communication.
And so a lot of times if it was a parent to child communication,

(07:36):
it was behind closed doors, justyou and that parent and it was
in a chair and he was on the other side of his desk because
it always happened in his officeor when I was trapped in the car
with him and didn't have anywhere to go.
So, and oftentimes I'm a tough cookie, but I'm also very
emotional too. So I would always cry.

(07:56):
I'd come home. My stepmom was like, Dick, can
you please, please just bring her home one time where she's
not like snot, boogers, tears, crying.
So I had tough lessons to learn too.
And part of it was was with thatkind of nature.
So delay of gratifications got impact.

(08:19):
I encourage all of your readers to actually just look at the
book and then thank holy crap, that was given to a 12 year old.
So it was very difficult to readand not sure that I actually
really read it when I was 12. I think I might have gotten
through chapter one. However, in high school, I did
start to read it and it did makemuch more sense to me.
And then just that work ethic, shoulder to the wheel, nose to

(08:41):
the grindstone. And it got me through college,
it got me through issues going through the military, it got me
through seizures, all that stuff.
So that's just a little bit of the background.
So let's let's jump to what happened.
I was about 29 and I didn't findout exactly why and I'm 90% sure

(09:03):
why, but to know what happened. So I'm 29, I wake up in an
ambulance and I am literally like strangling the EMT that's
standing over top of me, bright white lights and I probably
think I'm dead. I don't know, I'm going to see
God or whatever, but I've got this guy by the neck and he's

(09:24):
like, ma'am, breathe, please breathe into your mask.
Please, please. So all of a sudden I come to, I
don't really realize what's going on.
They're telling me that I've hada grandma seizure.
You've just had a seizure. Please, please, please breathe.
Breathe, relax. So that was like chaos to me.
So anyway, this is in California.

(09:44):
I get into the hospital, they run ACT, they run this, they do
that, they test this. They are prodding me.
What drugs do you do? I'm 29, I'm healthy.
I'm I'm muscular, I'm 125 lbs I'm 57.
I, I like I, I run, I work out, I eat healthy.
It's they could see all that stuff.
And at the time my boyfriend hadbeen come as well and he met us

(10:07):
at the hospital. But he's there and he's trying
to tell her she does not do drugs.
I, I, I barely even drank. I mean like once a month to hang
out with friends or whatever even not always.
And he's like, she does not do drugs.
She doesn't do weed, she doesn'tdo cocaine, she doesn't do
heroin, She doesn't do like coffee is about as much as she

(10:29):
does of a drug. And anyway, so nurse
practitioner comes in, the doctor comes in, the ER person
that this or that. And I'm like, listen, I don't
know what just happened, but it wasn't from doing drugs.
And it got so frustrating that that's what was being I was
being challenged that that's what caused this.

(10:51):
It's common, it's not uncommon and I suspect them to California
and especially Southern California was S like LA County
area that perhaps that happens alot.
I don't know. So anyway, I was uncontrolled
continue to have seizures didn'tknow why here.
Remember when I told you about that pity party and why me why

(11:12):
me? I'm healthy, I'm active, I take
care of what I eat. So then I go through a battery
of tests. I go to see the top neurological
seizure disorder specialist, University of Maryland, UCLA.
At this point, sort of through this time frame, I, I
disconnected and separated from boyfriend.

(11:33):
I moved back to the East Coast. I, my mom, my mom had deployed
to Djibouti. So she was gone for a year and a
half. Mind you, I'm super independent.
I at this time I've gotten out of the military myself.
I worked for a pharmaceutical company, got bored, moved into
medical device sales, worked with funny enough,

(11:54):
neurosurgeons, neuro and orthopaedic spine surgeons,
developed a mini distributorship, worked with two
my best girlfriends, worked all up and down the East Coast.
Like I said, I lived on the EastCoast.
Met my boyfriend, he lived in and California.
Moved out there with him for year and a half.
Whatever it was, I don't even remember.
And then we separated. I went back to the East Coast,

(12:18):
still didn't know why. So you can't drive for a year
when you have seizures. So it's pretty much illegal in
every state. They basically take away your
license. Part of that is just because you
become harm, you're you're a dangerous.
So you having them on a regular basis then?
I was having them regularly enough at no frequency in which

(12:41):
was determined understood, couldsay, hey, when you do this, you
will have a seizure. Night time, daytime, morning,
evening, it didn't matter. It would just happen.
And we never, we never could figure out why.
So I go, I, I can't remember exactly how I tracked down all
these specialists, but I was very fortunate because I worked

(13:03):
in the neuro field and most of them were spine surgeons, but
neurospine surgeons. So they understand.
I went and met with one of my clients.
I had an MRI. They found a little brain tumor
behind my right eye and my temporal lobe.
Temporal lobe issues concerns don't typically cause grand Mal
seizures. If you don't know what a grand

(13:23):
Mal seizure is, it's a tonic clonic seizure.
So you're out for the count. You are not dead, obviously, but
everything stops. You're blacked out.
You have no motor control whatsoever.
I've crashed in the countertops.I've split open the side of my
head, you know, 3 inches, 12 sutures, Woke up in a pool of
blood, you know, not knowing what was going on.

(13:48):
I'm surprised I haven't had to have plastic surgery out of my
face. I've busted open my cheekbone.
I've split open my eyebrow. I've like busted blood vessels.
You know, I've, I've had all different kinds of things.
Swollen hips because I hit the ground so hard and you know, you
wake up and you're like, why does my elbow hurt so much?
Well, you crashed your elbow into the ground too.
I mean, you're out. You go from being erect to a

(14:10):
new, you go to a noodle and you do convulse.
You can spit and foam and you make weird sounds and things
like that. So I've experienced all that.
I don't know what any of it is, but there's been enough people
around me that it freaks people out.
So it's it's scary and you don'tknow why.

(14:30):
So pity party. You don't know why, Why me
doctors don't know why can't fixit?
Why me doctors can't fix it? Who is going to help me?
Hormonal blood tests, sleep studies, you name it, I had it.
Light studies. And you go into this thing and

(14:50):
you're like watching blinking lights and all this crazy stuff
didn't trigger anything. So over that course of time, it
was probably approximately 6 months or so before I really got
controlled or at least got on the right track.
So I find this neuro specialist,pediatric seizure disorder

(15:10):
specialist, but still a very, very well recognized researched
neurologist. So I go and I see him, we get on
this medication. It great medication.
Holy moly. I mean talk about talk about
fatigue. I was on like a horse sized dose

(15:31):
because we couldn't get me controlled.
So we were increasing the dose and interestingly I find now I'm
fast forwarding through approximately a year and a half
pretty quickly. But we find out I'm not getting
control partly because of my fault.
I was in denial. I at periods of time wasn't very
regular taking my medication. So again, the woe is me part,

(15:53):
right? Why is this happening to me?
Nobody knows why. So this medication's not going
to work anyway. The stupidity of your own self
getting in your way. And I wasn't really listening.
So anyway, I go to see the doc. He says, though, are you taking
your meds? No, Sir, I have to be very

(16:14):
honest with you. I was in denial.
But in the last several weeks, I, my family was like, you're
too, you're too good. Grow up, take your meds, quit
being like, it's So what? You have to carry this burden.
And if this is going to help you, then that's, that's what
you have to do. So anyway, I started taking the

(16:35):
meds. I go back and see him, I don't
know, month, month and a half later, I've already had blood
work done again, it comes back normal.
There's nothing wrong with my hormones.
And I said, no, I'm, I'm taking my meds now.
Bring your medication. Oh, I did.
I had already brought it in. So he pours it into his hand and
he says this is generic. He had written me for that
particular medication branded extended release because we

(16:58):
couldn't figure out what was going on.
Pharmacy, the pharmacist for Anthem decided to fill it as a
generic despite the fact that itwas a preferred branded
medication. And I, I had it on the
formulary. And so, I don't know, paid $5
versus $40. I had never used my medical

(17:19):
insurance in my entire life except for probably when I was a
kid when I broke my arm or, I don't know, the one or two times
I ever had to go to the ER because I fell out of a tree or
something. I don't know.
I don't get sick. And so that was another thing
too, is I'm so healthy. Why am I carrying this burden?
I'm asking myself and having a little bit of a pity party

(17:40):
through this whole year and a half and still going to the gym,
still eating healthy, still trying to do everything, relying
on people because I can't drive.So relying on my parents,
relying on friends, that's not normal for me.
Typically people rely on me to help them.

(18:01):
So it was a very strange, this is a very strange year, year and
a half of my life. Learned a lot of lessons.
Grateful for it. Also still, Oh my gosh, that was
a that was a hard time for me. And so he switches me over, I
get on the phone. We went through an appeal
process times three had to have a neurosurgeon write me an

(18:22):
appeal, had to have my my neurologist write me an appeal.
Had to threaten to sue Anthem tosay, OK, here's how it's going
to work. Director of pharmacy.
I know that I can get controlledon Brandon because I got three
months of the branded after thathappened and and determined the
generic stuff and then they wouldn't fill it again after

(18:45):
that. So they were going to switch me
back to the generic. And I said, OK, here's how it
rolls because one month I was controlled, 2 months I was
controlled, 3 months I was controlled go to fill my my
prescription. And I told him, I'm going to sue
you. And I'm not a litigious kind of
person. But here's the deal.
I know that when I'm on generics, I'm not controlled.

(19:07):
So I've been controlled for three months.
I'm able to then get back into the the process of getting my
driver's license back and start driving again.
I'm going to drive because I've been controlled.
And it will be your fault if something happens to me or if
something happens to someone else.
Do you want that liability approved?

(19:29):
Never had another issue have been controlled for.
I don't know. We're, we're approaching 10
years here soon. Eight years, something like
that. So when I don't take my meds, I
have had a breakthrough seizure once or twice in that period of
time, and that's my fault. So I do know that if you go
longer than 48 days approximately, I'll have one.

(19:49):
So now I go through life and I say, OK, nobody knows why.
Just this. God says, hey, look, you got to
carry this for some reason. Maybe I'll find out at some
point in my life. I go to a longevity medicine
specialist. I think it's really important,
especially as a female. We can talk a little bit about
hormones too, but especially as a female, you really need to
take care of yourself. You need to make sure that you

(20:11):
carry muscle. You need to make sure that you
eat protein. You need to make sure that you
eat a balanced diet. Stop eating so much food.
Stop making excuses. And I'm hard on women too,
because we do we, we do have to do a lot.
We got to make babies, We got toraise babies.
We got to try to work too. We got lots of stuff.
Not that men don't trust me, they do as well.
And I very much respect man's role in life.

(20:33):
I I'm a big believer in the family unit.
You need to have influences frommen and women on kids.
There's and and you know, I don't care what your family
looks like, but you have to havethat sports.
Totally agree. Grandparents.
Parents, women figures, men figures, if you don't have that

(20:56):
other half, I mean, it's such a,it's such a dynamic.
Just saying that for a minute. It's, it's very dynamic and
it's, it's pretty intense. I'm very fortunate.
I have an amazing family. So I learned a lot of lessons
both from from the man's side ofthe world and from the woman's
side of the world. So I very much respect my
husband's role. I stand behind him.
I don't stand next to him. I don't stand in front of him.

(21:18):
And I like standing behind him because you know what, I'm
pretty hard ass tough. So when he slacks a little bit,
I give him a swift kick in the butt.
I'm proud to be able to do that.But he stands in front, takes
all the blows, takes care of ourfamily.
So it was hard for me during that seizure period just because
I wasn't really dating, didn't really want to what what person

(21:43):
I, I didn't want somebody to have to bear that burden as
well. So like I said, got controlled.
Fast forward, got back into my life.
I was very an entrepreneurial, not that I didn't want to work
for somebody. I think people say, oh, I want
to be an entrepreneur because I don't want to work for anybody.
It's hard, but I had big goals, big aspirations.
I wanted to solve big problems and I felt like I could do that

(22:04):
better by creating something. And so now you know, I'm, I'm,
I'm very fortunate that I do getto work alongside my, my
husband. It is not easy.
So it is not glamorous. We very much have a work and a
love relationship. We battle, we fight.

(22:24):
Sometimes I'm like, I'm not yourwife right now.
I'm your business partner. So we're going to fix this and
solve this like ACEO and a president to run this company,
save the company, grow the company, make big decisions that
and get investment for the company, that kind of stuff, not
your wife. So that's hard.
That's tough. But we agreed upon it and we
discussed it before we decided to get into that.

(22:46):
And then I'm his wife. Sometimes it's not 5050,
sometimes it's 100% zero. Sometimes it's 2575, sometimes
it is 5050. Sometimes I carry 90% of the
burden and he carries only 10. The, the difference is, is that
we agreed that that imbalance cannot be accepted always.

(23:10):
It's accepted when it's needed to be accepted and then it has
to be corrected because it's just not, it's not appropriate
to make someone carry the biggest burden always.
So we're, we're good at that. He told me one time when I
earlier in our relationship where he said he's not a
fighter. I tell you he is a lover.

(23:31):
He will do anything and everything.
He is not a fighter. And I'm really tough and
sometimes you have to fight me because I'm so stubborn and I'm
so he says gumption is the best word to describe me.
I've been called General Patton and I, I, but sorry, I have big
dreams and goals. And if you're going to get in
the way of those, then you're inmy way.

(23:53):
How am I going to get you out ofthe way?
And that's just the way that I am.
I can't change that. Can I be a little softer and a
little more sensitive? Sometimes, yes.
And I have to work on that because I will steamroll over
people. And it's not that it it's not AI
don't like you. You're it's more of just I have

(24:13):
I have big goals. I want to achieve them.
That's really important to me. That's important to my family.
That's important to the company because I employ so many people
and you got to be tough. And so that's where I think a
lot of people forget that that'svery much a a foundation of

(24:34):
entrepreneurship is not easy. And.
It, it's a lot of sacrifice. So my husband knows that I have
seizures and he's always been super supportive and has always
agreed and said, OK, you know what's a burden that you got to
carry? We're on the same page.
Like I said, I'm super fortunate.

(24:55):
I, I do have great, great medical care, medication works.
We're all set. My life is my life is great.
So he's a stem cell regenerativemedicine expert, orthopedist.
He's helped pioneer the field over the last 20 years.
I know a lot of people in that field say I'm an expert, but
I'm, I'm not humble when it comes to talking about him.

(25:18):
I toot his horn and I want people to know about him because
he's a great resource and he truly helps people.
And so he is one of the best. And that is why people travel
from all over the world, Australia, Canada, South
America, Alaska, Hawaii, South Florida.
Sometimes it feels like if you got to go 10 miles, it's
travelling across the world because we live in the Miami
area. So the traffic's so bad here it

(25:39):
can take an hour to go 12 miles.But I'm I'm very fortunate to
have someone that has that impact and that influence in in
the world. And so to have his support means
a lot to me. So longevity and keeping your
body healthy. And I can't wait to talk about
that brain and body. But so he had a longevity

(26:00):
medicine specialist as as his primary doctor And, and so I, I
switched over my care and went to start.
That person was going to manage my care.
I shared with her that I have seizures.
These are medications I'm on. That's the only medication I'm
really on. And so she interestingly, and
it's controversial, I don't particularly bring it up to
everybody. I don't just say, hey, I had

(26:22):
seizures and we found out why. But about 2023, I think maybe
maybe 22, going for my routine biannual checkup balls good.
And we started talking about themedication, the seizures.
And later on, she messaged me back and she said, hey, I need
you to read these studies. There are six of them.

(26:44):
And it comes actually from RFK Junior's Childhood Foundation or
the The Children's Foundation. It showed that HPV vaccines in
females has shown to cause seizures.
When I was 29, by the way, I've never even had the flu shot.
I just, I never got sick. I just, I mean, childhood

(27:05):
vaccines and stuff. Yes, I am vaccinated from that
regard, but I don't know why when I was 29 that I've never
that that would just was an odd decision, decision that I would
make. But you know, when I was single,
I wasn't at the time, I wasn't with anybody.
And decreases your risk of cervical cancer.

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And it's really important for women.
And it was a new vaccine too, relatively.
So it's not like childhood vaccines that have been around
for 70 years kind of thing. And you got that when you were
29 and the seizures started pretty Shorty thereafter.
Yep. Oh, and no correlation to me.
It wasn't like, oh, I went and got the vaccine and then a month

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later I started having seizures that it didn't even, it never
even dawned on me until those studies were shared with me.
So still don't know what the burden is.
But we all have decisions and with every single decision we
make, there are consequences, positive and negative.
Was it a negative consequence? I mean, I look at it like that

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because of now the limitations that it can put on my life, but
I'm also very grateful that I still have all four limbs
working. I, I still can, can work, take
care of my family. I still can influence other
people and help grow companies. And I, I'm not, I'm not

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dysfunctional that way. And that I am controlled and
that I still can influence can be part of my life, a part of
other people's life. And so I'm very fortunate and
I'm, I'm not. It could.
So the point is, is it could have been way worse.
Yeah. Something else worse to my body
could have happened. So that's just sort of a that's

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the full circle. Now.
My husband always talks about causation.
And so I'm like, we'll just leave it at that.
Maybe it just gives me some comfort to know that, hey, these
studies said that it can happen.And I took the vaccine.
It happened shortly after. I have to live with it now.
We leave it at that. So like I said, I'm controlled.

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I'm back to to working. I'm a nut job.
He's we call him flatline, whichis funny because he's a doctor
and like, do you like that birthday gift?
Can you give me some excitement,a little bit of motion?
I'm a giver. I would like to know whether you
like the gift or not. If you don't, we're going to
take it back and we're going to go get you something that we do
me. I'm like, Oh my God, I got this.

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It's amazing and holy crap, I'm so excited.
Oh my God, I'm crying. You know, so it's hard to have
two givers. By the way, he's a giver kind of
like, all right, look, somebody's got to be the
receiver. I love receiving.
I need you to love to receive too.
His his he has a sneaky way of, hey, let's go get a different
size. So we go to the shop, it gets

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returned. He spends the money on me and
I'm like, look, I love that and I love you, but but you're
taking away my my excitement when you don't receive something
because I love to give. So that's that's the health that
that's the full on health. So as far as that's probably the
greatest struggle that I think I've ever gotten through.

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I'm from a divorced family. Hey, people get divorced.
So I don't have mommy issues. I don't have daddy issues.
I don't have any of that stuff. It just is and you have to, like
I said, I, I don't know. I can't just expect a kid and
you to tell him that you got to just suck it up and deal with
it. It's hard because you don't know

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how. And I was great.
I mean, I, I had sports, I had great parents And so I, I did
have really good influences and guidance as a child to, to get
through that, I had to my parents fight.
Were you caught in the middle ofthat?
Yes, that normal. I I don't know anybody that
doesn't fight. So it's that's a whole not we've

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shoot. We'd have to spend like a week
talking about all that stuff. But I'm not, I'm not perfect.
I didn't come from a perfect family.
We didn't have a lot of money. My dad was in the military.
My biological mother, she was entrepreneur as well, but wasn't
like anybody had $1,000,000 businesses.
Then when my parents divorced, there's financial difficulties

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that always get divorcing is never clean and pretty.
The majority of the time, some people do it really well.
They say, hey, listen, handshake, this wasn't the right
fit. Let's move on.
We'll split everything down the middle.
I would say that that's probablynot normal.
That's not that's not the way that it usually happens.
It wasn't certainly the way thatmy husband's divorce happened or

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that my parents divorce happened.
So I was very, very cognizant and cautious of the man that I
was going to spend the rest of my life with.
So I didn't date a lot. And if I did, it was more of
just like companion style dating.
And, you know, it was just not very serious.
We can both go our own ways whenever.
And so I'm very fortunate that Iwas able to.

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And it's a funny story, won't get into it, but we always laugh
and say it wasn't us that put ustogether.
It was definitely God. So you know, I, I, I definitely
believe in something, whether you think it's God or it's the
universe or it's energy or whatever it is, I kind of
believe it's all all, all kit and caboodle is man, you got to

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stay positive. This world is too dirty, it's
too nasty, it's too negative. So we can't just think that it's
just us. There's there's for me, there's
bigger, greater energy, there's bigger, greater influence.
There's bigger, better people that have done more than than
you have and use as role models.And then I always say this too,

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you can also look at people thathave made bad decisions and use
them as role models as well. What were the bad decisions?
Don't do those. Why was what was the
circumstances? Don't put yourself in that
circumstance. Learn from both good and bad and
you know, that's that's kind of where I it's.
A lot more efficient when you think about it, you know, I'm

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I'm very like type A like I, I, I carry the burden as well.
I want to have control over everything and I accept full
responsibility for anything goodor bad.
But I feel like once I surrendered to the fact that I
mean like there are other resources out there that I don't
know everything that I can actually leverage those lessons
learned from others. I mean you just you're way more

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efficient at problem solving youyou can make leaps and bounds
more progress than you ever could just fighting the uphill
battle solo. It's that's, you know, that's a
prophecy essentially. I wish more people could.
I, I learned this. I, I love my long time mentor
was Grant Cardone. And I remember he got on stage

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10X conference every year and hegot teary eyed too.
And he said for a long time I could never ask for help.
And if there's one thing that I learned from that was ask for
help. I, I struggled with that too.
I, I can do things better than people because I have high
expectations of myself, not because people truly can't do it

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better than I can. It's just I don't, I didn't like
to rely on people. I wanted to get, I wanted to
ensure that the list, the boxes were checked.
And it's not, it was people confuse it and say that it's
your control freak. It was less about control and it
was more of I got big goals. And I know for sure that when

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you have big, and I don't mean like I want to make $1,000,000
this year, now I want to make $250 million this year.
I want my companies to generate $250 million.
If they generate $250 million. I have impacted millions of
people. And to me that's my legacy that
I want to leave behind. Learn learn from me what you can

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good and bad struggles, How do you get through them?
Mindset, positivity and trust meI I've got the negativity days
to where I have to fight those demons to say it's not happening
to me and it's more of why is this happening?
Ask the question, understand whyis it the circumstances?

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What can change, what can improve, what needs to be
removed, what needs to be added?Figure those things out, ask the
questions, solve the puzzle. Solution usually equals reward.
So if you solve big problems, look at electricity.
Holy crap, what was the reward for that man?
Look at motors, engines, whoa, shoot planes, trains,

(35:48):
automobiles. Look at, look at.
I know it shouldn't even probably bring it up because
it's so controversial right now,but look at Tesla, look at
electric vehicles. Look at what?
Look at what solving problems can do and what it can generate.
And I, I'm just, I've always been a big believer that, you
know, great inspirational peoplethat have left legacies usually

(36:13):
solved big problems. So.
Well, as they say, you know, youaim for the moon and even if you
don't miss it or even if you don't hit it, you at least
landed the stars. You know, you got to be
ambitious. What was the primary company
that's that you're working on? So there's three actually.
So my husband is still a practicing physician.
So he sold out of his medical practice after Harvard.

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He was recruited to a very well known orthopedic institute,
arguably the number one in Vail,Co.
So he was there for 20 years, was a partner, sold, we left.
He wanted to do he in partnership.
Sometimes you're restrained on what you can do.
So he really needed to take the next step in regenerative
medicine in regards to research.So sold out, left fail, moved to

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Northern Miami and started CarlyHealth Institute.
And that's his that's his medical practice.
So he still sees patients all while running his biotech
company that he formed in 2010 had really started working it in
2006. And that's Gray Ledge
Technology. So what that does is that helps

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to better understand stem cells,why they work.
If you better understand why they work, then you can better
formulate and create solutions of how you can treat things.
He's an orthopedist, so his specialty is orthopedics.
Does it have application in other fields?
Yes. Sexual rejuvenation, hair.
We stay away from the neurological kinds of

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dysfunctions, Ms. kidney, liver diseases, things like that.
That's just not that's not in our wheelhouse at all.
But what the technology company can do is, is it can access the
power of stem cells and put it into other specialties so that
those specialists can make cellular therapies work for that
disease state. So that has the opportunity to

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affect hundreds of millions of people across the world.
So it's not just like the UnitedStates is the only place that
utilizes cellular therapies and is trying to advance it.
So I'm the president, he's the Ceoi really work on sales
development and operations and he's the brainchild.
I get out of the way with that man.
They start talking and those pH DS and him and I'm like, just

(38:27):
tell me what I need to know. We'll build it out and learn,
teach me, but I'm not a part of that.
So in the last three years we'vebeen able to collect enough data
that has biological measurement to it.
So once you take the stem cell and we only use compliant
therapies in the United States. So these cellular therapies,
whether it platelets or very different kinds of other stem

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cells, they come from you. And so they are able to be
measured. And then if you measure them to
start, you're able to optimize, concentrate them and customize
them to treat a specific thing, a specific physiological issue,
something that's going on, whether it's osteoarthritis or
it's a tendon issue or it's, youknow, pain and musculature

(39:10):
problems, things like that. And so you're able to then
formulate it and customize it. Then you're able to measure it
and verify it afterward. Once you get that validation
when you inject it, that's essentially turned into a dose.
So if I dose your thumb joint versus different than your spine
or your knee joint, what's the outcome and is it predictable?

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And David has always believed, Doctor David, Carly has always
believed that there's got to be something that's predictable
about utilizing cellular therapies.
We don't know yet what it is. And that was the, that was his
thesis essentially 20 years ago.And so in the last three years,
we've been able to collect enough data based off of that
dosing. We have dozens of physicians

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that in the United States that utilize that technology.
We don't tell them how to treat patients.
So we basically have an internaldatabase that truly is a
comparative analysis, right? It's its own.
This doc does it this way, and Doctor Carly might do it
entirely different. He might use a different
formulation of a product to treat that.

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This one might use less cells and this one uses more cells.
Well, that's an internal case study that runs in parallel of
each other. Which one won?
Which one won the race Who? Who treated the patient better,
and not particularly which doctors better.
It's which formulation, which formulation won the outcome
game. We obviously we're in the name

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of the game of patient care. So in regards to the predictive
modeling, don't you? And it's cash pay by the way,
it's not covered by health insurance.
So his big thing was his, look, this is a return on your
investment and this is a true investment in yourself.
I want to try to help get you toa point to where we can get you

(40:56):
back and and normalize things sothat you can get back to your
life. Maybe not cure the disease
state, but at least manage it sothat it doesn't have such an
impact on your life where it's preventing things.
So once we know that dose, then we can start truly teach the
field and say it is required that you dose cellular therapies
and you validate them before youinject them.

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If you don't know what you're injecting, you're just blind
hoping that the patient's going to get better.
And that's pretty standard in the field right now.
And most people don't know that.Most people don't know that
doctors don't really know what they're injecting 'cause they
didn't measure the final product.
So they have no idea. Has it done great things and
have we gotten far in the last 30 years?
Yes, we have. But that is not where it should

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stop. It should become more
definitive, just like pharmaceuticals.
If I were to give you 200 milligrams of ibuprofen, but you
knew you needed 800 to help, you're out there working on the
farm and your knees are hurting you.
And why is my knee still hurtingme?
Well, if the dose was 200 and itshould have been 800, did

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ibuprofen not work? Or was it the dose that didn't
work? It's interesting.
I mean, the, the field of stem cell research is just like I'm
hearing a lot more of it. So I feel like it's more
socially, socially acceptable. People are interested in it.
They, they know somebody that's been, you know, benefiting from
it, whether they've used it themselves or not.

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But it's it's becoming much moremainstream, it seems.
Yeah, it's, it's interesting that you say that.
Yes, it has. And he's very much been a part
of that journey and making it better, challenging the field.
He sometimes is the black sheep because people don't like to be
challenged. So it definitely has been an
upheld battle to convince to delicately say to physicians

(42:44):
that, hey, while you've been trying to do really good things,
potentially the right data hasn't existed so that you can
do even better. And isn't that the name of the
game in medicine? We should always be learning and
learning to get better to help more people.
And so Fast forward after three years, we have enough validated

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data that's very specific that we now have been able to utilize
artificial intelligence to look at data retro versus
perspective. So look at the data from behind
basically not in in forward, butwhat that's been able to do is
that's been that's been able to help predict outcomes.

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We have enough doctors that havedone it this way and this way
and this way and this way. And so those comparative
analysis and then based off of what those doses were that were
injected and what kind of demographic of a patient,
overweight drinker, what's the BMI, what's their diagnosis, all
kinds of things. And by incorporating artificial
intelligence, no statistician can do that 24/7, 365 anytime,

(43:50):
taking all those data calculations and trying to
figure out, OK, what tells the better story?
And then once you know the storybetter, what was the better
solution? So that's great.
And then the last business, the third one is, is I, my husband's
always, he's like, well, you brought it on yourself.
You brought on all this work on yourself.

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I started a supplement company about 2 1/2 years ago.
And over the last year, it's really started to grow.
On Wednesday through Friday, we will be at the Dave Asprey
Biohacking conference. We'll be at Biohackers World and
July and November, both in Chicago and in Miami.
We're invited. I'll be on a panel, I'll be

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speaking. David will be a keynote speaker.
So I'm very fortunate. And then I told you, make sure
you remind me that I talk about brain health.
So I think we've now arrived at brain health.
I'm I'm super passionate for varying reasons about the stem
cell company. One, it's that I do get to help
my husband's dream come true andhis passion and what he's been

(44:53):
able to do and develop over the field.
A lot of people have doubted himand challenged him and stolen
from him. And so I am.
We laugh because he's my lion and I'm very much the lioness
and if anybody knows about female lions, they're pretty
aggressive. So I'm super protective of him
and I want his success and I want him truly to win.

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So supplementation goes hand in hand with health.
So with longevity and cellular health and things like that.
So we wanted to make sure that we could give people high
quality products. And I, I know for sure that I,
that the people that I work within the raw material
manufacturers and like I told you, the, the founder and, and

(45:36):
the inventor of creatine as we know it, it's a number one
sports supplement that's been studied since 199899 and what
he's been able to do for the field.
I, I get to say that I, I'm veryfortunate to be able to work
with somebody like that and a nutritional biochemist that Oh
my God, the guy can cite any kind of paper and so can David

(45:57):
and his field. And so I'm very fortunate that
from the cellular medicine perspective and from the, the
biochemical part of nutrition and food and supplementation and
what it does for your body and deficiencies and supplementing
it to get it healthier. What are the right combinations?
What should we be doing? And and just did shear

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understanding of what supplements do the longevity
aspect that they can have. And I know there's plenty of
people that say, oh, that's a bunch of BS and supplements
don't work. No, they do because look at it
from the perspective of look at what RFK Junior is trying to do,
remove crap essentially from ourfood sources and improve our

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food sources. Why?
Because we're deficient in so much and food sources are poor
and lacking and nutritional values.
And so when you lack in something, you need to turn to
how can you supplement? How can you improve?
What can you give the body that it needs that it's not getting
essential and non essential. So that's, that's part of my,

(47:02):
my, that was my passion project that now has come to life and
again, to solving solutions. And so if I can make that this
company successful, then it's much bigger than me.
It's that I get to affect millions of people's lives.
And so I, I'm actually my husband and I just had this
conversation this morning. He was reading a book about

(47:23):
become a Ted Talker kind of thing.
And you know, what's your passion and what are you going
to do with that passion? And, and I, I'm very fortunate
that I have somebody like him that challenges me on those hard
questions because I'm like, I don't know, I'm just really good
at executing things. I'm really good about making,
you know, lists and checking them off.

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That's I don't stare at the list.
I, you can see when you look through my book, there's
highlights and there's Scribble Scrabble and there's big circles
and there's arrows and then whatever didn't get done on that
list goes on to the next one. And the challenges is those
things better not keep rolling over, keep rolling over.
Goals can keep rolling over, butnot the things that get you to

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achieving the goals. So supplementation is important.
I want to live. It's not that I want to live to
be 150 years old, but the duration in which I do live, I
want my bones, my joints, my body, my brain, everything to
work well. I don't want any of those things

(48:30):
to slowly decline to where when you get to your 70s and you're
wanting to be with your grandkids, your knees hurt,
shoulders hurt, you don't sleep well, you're gaining weight,
you're sluggish, you don't have energy.
I don't want to be complaining about those things when I'm
50607080 years old. I want to be peppy.
I don't have energy. I want to be a part of

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something. So.
What are the primary supplementsthat you're creating with that
company and that you use on a regular basis yourself?
Yep. So Zeta body is the company and
actually went through a name anda brand morphing and Zeta.
And there's a fun story about that.
But so there's a novel product which is called Z 83 and it's a

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brain, it's nootropic. So it works on the brain and
whatever the outcome that the brain produces.
So it's an interesting combination of just three
products. It's very simple and what those
three products do from synergistic effect is really it
helps to energize you. One, there is caffeine in it,
but then there's two other ingredients that are natural

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plant extracts that work together to influence your brain
in reaction time, your mood. One, it's called Zimbran 1 is
very much acts like a serotonin reuptake inhibitor.
So it acts like an antidepressant.
So the way that it works on those on your brain is so that
you and I were talking about this earlier, which is look at

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how overwhelmed everybody is. Look at how overstimulated
everyone is. Look at how anxious our society
and our culture has become. And part of it, as I always
laugh, is this thing doesn't help.
We are so attached to this thing.
I pay attention because I live in Miami area.
So people walk and you know, they use Uber and things like

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this. I can't tell you how much I see
this crossing the street like they are paying attention to
this and walking with the red hand sign up.
And I'm like, okay, so let's make sure that the car pays
attention for you instead of youpaying attention to the car, the
6000 LB vehicle that can hit youbecause you're crossing

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illegally in a crosswalk. Like you just see it.
Everyone is so focused on themselves and completely
unaware of what's going on the phone and the computer and
technology has done amazing things amazing things.
But with that, it has also done detrimental things to our
culture. Everything is expected to be
like this and we, our kids are being greatly affected.

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We talked about that too. This is what people put in their
hands to occupy them. This is what then enables
parents and teachers and things like that to do other things.
Not books and board games and going outside and climbing trees
and building tree forts and making up silly games and, you
know, going out and playing street hockey and things like

(51:27):
that. It just, I feel like our that
culture has shifted so much and that social media, you're so
stimulated by it and then you'reso affected by it because it can
share information so quickly. Good information, bad
information, emotional information.
Kids are mean. People are mean.
They want to constantly pick andpoke.

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And it's easy to hide behind thecomputer and make fun of
somebody or hurt somebody. It's easy to also propagate
positivity. And so while I say it has a lot
of it's had detrimental effect on our culture, it's also had a
significant and powerful and positive effect.
So how do I help decrease the negative and increase the

(52:12):
positive? And so the, the ability to
mitigate somebody's mood and help them to have to utilize
serotonin in the correct way and, and help truly that that
feel good sense. And then also it helps increase
reaction time. That's been studied too with the
other product, which is Amity and Max and polyphenols from

(52:36):
plant extracts. It's cool history from South
America. The plant, the extract comes
from these specific tribes and was used as a tea like substance
and it was used before going outand hunting.
And people felt like they were much more acutely aware of
something could react faster. And so I've been very fortunate
that most people that utilize ittell me I feel good, I'm

(52:59):
energized. We talked about brain health, we
talked about what's happened to me.
I don't know what the long term effects of 1, taking this
medication and two, having so many seizures are going to be,
but I've certainly had some concussions, that's for sure.
And I need to do everything thatI can for anything that I put in
my body that's going to help my brain and that's going to help

(53:19):
my body. So some of the other key
supplements, vitamin D, I'm verypassionate about that.
That's a great longevity supplement.
And then I have a lot of foundational supplements because
I want people to know that they can come to a brand and trust
that brand. I work with some of the best raw
material manufacturers in in theworld, but also here in the

(53:40):
United States where a lot of my stuff is produced, which is
great because while I am not thecheapest, I will tell everybody
that you can go to Costco and you can get a gallon bucket of
fish oil. Why is it so cheap?
Where did it come from? Can you answer those questions?
And I can and I know where they are.
And so there's value in that, which has a price tag as well.
So I know there's a lot of people that are like, ah, this

(54:03):
is too expensive. I'm not going to take it.
I don't even know if it works well, I will tell you this, you
need to be on a good D3 supplement and D&K is what we
what we make because it has shown to because humans are so
deficient and partly because of this, because you're sitting in
your house playing this all the time.
You're not outside and sun in the synthesis of sun and what it

(54:23):
does through your skin. And then in regards to
cholesterol, D3 is actually not a vitamin.
It's a precursor to a hormone. So when you do talk, take that,
supplement it, transfer it, it basically then turns into,
there's a cascade that it goes through and then it does turn
into an active hormone which helps to mitigate calcium.
So essentially it's bringing calcium in and then when you

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combine it with K, that is then telling calcium where to go.
This is all very much the layman's term, obviously.
And what do we, what do we need calcium for bones, T, what
attaches to bones, muscle. What do we need creatine for?
Very much to regenerate ATP energy.
It crosses the brain, the blood brain barrier, neurocognitive

(55:08):
function. Creatine is huge.
If I cannot emphasize enough that women, and I love my men,
like I said, but women, have we got some issues with hormones
for sure. Pre menopause, menopause,
perimenopause, you've got all kinds of stuff that starts
happening from like mid 30s to like late 50s kind of thing.

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D3 huge every human basically after I've watched him do so
many blood tests and get people on the right track their
hormonal access because it does affect cellular health and and
the therapies that he provides that pretty much every human is
exit is deficient in it because our food quality, but then we're
not spending enough time outsideand so you need to ingest D3.

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It's shown that if you are deficient, you have a higher
risk of cardiovascular disease. What's cardiovascular disease?
It's not just heart attacks, it's diabetes, it's being pre
diabetic, it's being varying different kinds of it affects
inflammation. So it affects, like I said, risk

(56:15):
of heart attack, things like that.
Also immunity. So it's, it's super important.
And then in combination with creatine, the the cell therapy,
the neurocognitive benefits, theenergy being able to help muscle
create that energy recover faster.
No, when you take creatine, it'sthe number, probably the number

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one question I get, especially from women.
I don't want to get huge and bulky.
Yeah. Well, let me tell you.
Something because like creatine,I don't know, I feel like that
was what was talked about, you know, in the high school locker
room for guys equivalent to steroids.
But I feel like at least in Myspace, the keto carnivore, low
carb space, like it's become much more widely used and
appreciated, both male and female, because they're now

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starting to talk about the neurological benefits of it as
well. So yeah, I think, I mean,
anybody would benefit from supplementing with creatine
because you can't possibly reacha saturation point if you're
just relying on the creatine naturally occurring in the meats
you're consuming. You have to supplement it to
reach that saturation point. Well, and the interesting thing
is, is come on, let's be realistic.
Let's let's remove the bodybuilders, let's remove the
people that truly are in the gymto truly generate muscle.

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Let's remove those because let'sbe realistic.
It's approximately 50% of our United States population,
approximately 350 million people.
So half of that is obese. So I don't think that those.
And again, too, there's a lot ofbodybuilders that have a
significant PMI that are also considered obese if you just did
the, the basic calculations. But so we'll remove those.

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But just in, in our general population, too much visceral
fat, too much food is being eaten, an imbalance of
carbohydrates to proteins and tovegetables.
I mean, if you don't like vegetables, my husband laughs
cause a good friend of ours, he's a, he's a big dude, former
national wrestler. And he's like, don't really like
vegetables because it takes up too much space for the things

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that I do like, like protein andmeat.
And so we always laugh because Ihave a great phytonutrient
product. It's a simple powder.
You just put it in water or smoothie or you know, my, this
is what I call my beauty juice, which I'll tell you what's in
there, but it's, you have to do it and you have to spend the
money to do it. And unfortunately, potentially

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it'll get better in the next decade or whatever.
I know food's expensive and I know that bad food's cheap and
I, I know that there's a, a costanalysis that you have to do,
but in my opinion, if you were to only take two to four
supplements, it would be D 35000.
I us is, is great. That's that some people need

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10,000, but I think that's a very fundamental base that you
can start. You wouldn't know if you needed
more unless you're doing your blood panels and doing constant
going in and getting your hormones measured and doing that
biannually. So January and June, something
like that. That way you can see how the how
that the levels are changing in the blood.
But for the most part, 5000 I use that's good creatine.

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You know, I think the studies show typically between 3:00 and
5:00 grams a day is beneficial. And it's it's the world's most
studied sports supplement as like you said, it was known in
the locker room as you know, I need to take this to get big
bulky muscles. I always kind of chuckle and say
don't just generate muscle. You have to stress the muscle in

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order to generate strength. In order to generate size it'd.
Be nice if it was that easy. I would love holy cow, man, I
would be I'd be drinking this stuff all day long and and never
I got I have so much stuff to doand I never had to go to the
gym. Great, although I do like going
but my schedule can prevent it sometimes but and then it's.

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Protein and I know that. So it's, it's interesting that
we were just talking about it and Anthony, he's, he's the our
business partner that I was talking about in regards to, to
creatine. But we, we kind of chuckle
because what happened to our society and if you think about
it, and I don't know exactly when it happened, but let's just
say it happened in the 80s. Nobody, you didn't hear about

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all of these cardiovascular disease states in the 40s and
the 50s and 60s, people were outside, they had more labor
jobs. They just in general they were
outside more. And I don't know, I guess our
food, the substances, the thingsthat we were, we didn't have all
of these artificial that we're going into our food dyes,

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preservatives just didn't exist.It wasn't made yet.
Now, granted, we're feeding a lot more people in the world and
you know, farms, it's such it's a, it is a huge cascade of
events. It is not just one thing, but I
think that's why supplements areso important too.
Is, is that OK? Well, I need personally can't
fix a lot of those problems, butI definitely can control what I

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put in my body. So protein is the other thing,
amino acids, obviously those areprecursors to protein.
So I struggle, I, I'll be honest, I struggle with getting
enough protein. I'm just call me approximately
100 and 28130 lbs, something like that.
I struggle getting 130 grams. So I mean, I'm doing everything
from trying to drink bone broth and I the one I drink has 19

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grams. I try to eat chicken and fish
and eggs and all that stuff, butI have to be honest with three
companies and building and growing things I forget to eat
and I'm I'm the exact opposite of a lot of people.
I am not an emotional eater. When I'm emotional or when I'm
super stressed out and cortisol is high, that is the last thing

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I'm thinking about. Truly.
I'm a good water drinker. Electrolytes.
So in the beauty juice, I told you it's, it's a scoop of my
fruits and veggies, protein. So phytonutrients.
So you're getting a lot of the prebiotics, probiotics, a lot of
the the benefits from vegetables, a lot of people
don't like vegetables. So you know, the cruciferous
vegetables help decrease inflammation.

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So it's very simple and easy solution to a lot of that.
And one scoop of of creatine. So I do drink 5 grams a day, a
scoop of amino acids. I don't put protein powder in
this. And this is really just an easy
liquid makes water taste good. And then I use an electrolyte
packet. I don't make the electrolyte

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packet. I make everything else that goes
in there. But I use auth AUTHI like them a
lot. And you know, your electrolytes
one make water taste good in general because there's plenty
of people I know that are like, oh God, water is so boring.
There's no flavor to it. And for me, I'm like, I can
drink water plain. I mean, I can eat cold food.

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I could eat the same 10 things every day for the rest of my
life. I I I get chastised a lot too.
Is that I don't live to eat. I or No, I don't.
What is it? I don't Yeah, I don't live to
eat. I eat to live.
So I'm, and I'm a nibbler. I, I don't like eating a lot of
food at once. It I don't know when you, when I

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feel full, I'm like, Oh my God, I'm so I ate too much food.
So I'm very much the, I would eat half of what's on my plate
And then, you know, a little teeny Tupperware this big, I'd
put the rest of it in there. And my husband laughs because
I'll just an hour or two later, I'll go grab it and grab a fork
and not even put it in the microwave and just eat it cold,
including fish. So he thinks a lot of those

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things are really weird. I'll eat cold eggs that sat out
on the counter for two hours. I just, I don't think a lot of
people can say, oh, those are great habits.
Let me assume those. I think people like to eat food
hot usually and such, but I callthis my beauty or my handsome
juice because it puts a lot of the things that we need in one

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easy canister and you can make it as potent or as watered down
as you want. And then protein.
And by the way, I love red meat.So it's it's great for women,
especially if there's iron deficiencies.
It's a very easy way to get iron.
I can't take iron supplements. It constipates me.

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And I have tried every form and every every way of doing it a
little bit in the morning, a little bit in the afternoon, a
little bit in the evening. And so, and the only way that I
can really get an not be deficient and get the the amount
that I need is red meat. And I love bison.
I I would take bison any day of.Yeah, Bison good.

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Leaner than a lot of the ground meat that you can get.
If you do get and use ground meat, obviously I encourage
upper 90s, so like 93 seven, if you can find it, ground turkeys,
chickens. I have to say this, I don't know
that a lot of people. The crock pot has made a

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resurgence in our house because David's 245 lbs six three
working out he wants to make. He has big body goals too.
And I'm like, I cannot cook enough to keep up with you.
I'm putting like 6 chicken breasts on a baking sheet and
throwing it in the oven and I'm like ah gosh.

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And he's not a big fish person. So that makes things actually
easier because you can cook meats like Turkey and ground
meats and. Oh yeah, match cook is the way
to go. Austin pot, you know, slow
cooker, it makes it easy. So and then he'll pull it out
and heat it up and all that stuff.
But crock pot man, it's great. He loves when I shred chicken

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and he's, he has a little bit ofa different balance of carbs
and, and proteins. But so I just throw 567 chicken
breasts in there and pour a bunch of broccoli on top of
there and maybe throw some cabbage in there and some celery
or whatever. And I put some chicken broth in
there or some bone broth in there and bunch of spices.

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And then four hours high. And in about two or three hours,
I go in there and I shred all the chicken and then I pour some
pasta in there and soaks up all the juice and it makes it like
this Mac and cheesy chicken dishor whatever.
And he eats the snot out of it. So stews, like I said, it's made
a resurgence. So and the oven has not gotten a

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lot of activity recently 'cause I just throw it in there and put
it in Tupperware and throw it inthe kit and throw it in the
fridge. That works.
That works. Rock'n'roll.
I'm gonna get your proteins in, get your calories in 100%.
Yeah. What was the name of the
supplement company? One more.
Time Zeta, Body Zeta and it's Zeta body.com.
I will check it out for sure. I will check it out.

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What else is in the pipeline forwhat's got you excited going
through the rest of the year? Well, actually I'm working on it
right now, but and we have the formulation, it's just I'm
working on the the investment upfront.
We have AD lactose protein powder, which I am a lactard.
I cannot tolerate lactose doesn't do good things to this

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body. So but I do realize that
especially my husband, he says that vegan protein tastes like
Earth and that's he's not a big fan of that.
So it's, it's hard to make veganprotein not not not taste good.
I think I've I've found some proteins that do taste good, but
it's very gritty. It's it's hard to make beans and

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rice not it's hard to make them smooth.
So I, I get it. I understand that.
And then whey protein has that creamy mouthfeel and I know that
and I know it tastes really good, but I, I can't, I can't
have it. So D lactose is very different
than lactose free. So what it does is it's to keep

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it very simple. It just breaks down the, the,
the proteins in a different way so that it's tolerable if you
cannot process lactose, but it keeps all of the structure of
whey because it's a very easily absorbed form of protein.
And then, you know, you have your isolate and things like
that. So it removes all of that.

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It's a pure protein. It's I go back and forth about I
can't drink it. Why can I not drink it?
And so how can I help people that can't drink it like me?
And you know, if you're vegan, obviously you don't drink that.
But if you drink vegan protein because you can't drink lactose,

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whey protein, then it's then it's great.
And then you can put it in pancakes and you can put it in
baking things and you can do allthat kind of stuff and add
protein to that as well. So that's the next big pipeline
product for for Zeta. It's interesting though, it's
very expensive to make protein because you have to literally
almost become a drug dealer. You've got to buy kilos of raw

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material to make it at a time. You can't just buy like 1/4 of a
kilo and you know, make your beta version of it and you got
to, you got to buy a lot. So that's, that's the one,
that's the one factor. I'll, I'll pull the trigger when
I'm ready to go. But it's exciting because we did
make a little beta launch with it and everyone loved it.

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There were several people that had said this, the best protein
I've ever drank. So Anthony is really, really,
really, really good flavor formulator as well.
So we played around with a lot of different flavors.
Put a little bit of cinnamon, cinnamon, put what are we going
to do? We're going to use French
vanilla. We're going to use vanilla and
what combination and what formulation and how much of it.

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And so by the time I was done, Iwas like, they all taste.
They all taste the same. I can't.
It's like smelling colognes after you get to Cologne #4
you're like, I don't know, just whichever one which wasn't by
it, that's that. So, so that's exciting.
And then all the other companiesare growing and expanding.
It's just, it's sometimes feels like a freaking boulder that you

(01:10:24):
were pushing up a very large mountain where you cannot see
the top. And that's hard sometimes,
especially when it rolls back and falls on you.
And then you got to do it all. You got to get up and do it all
over again and figure out OK, what's not working.
So it that has happened with allthree companies.
The, the nootropic I'm super excited about.
That's the hero of your day. Take it in the morning.

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That's what I do. I don't even eat yet.
That's the first thing I do and I wake up and I can feel it and
it energizes you. And then throughout the day,
pending if it's morning or night, I do my regular longevity
medicine supplementation regimen.
So it's a, it's a great combination.
There is a code that's going on right now.
It's Asbury 20. It'll get you 20% off because I

(01:11:07):
am headed to the biohacking conference in just a couple
days. So I am offering.
I was actually going to go to that as well.
We're going to have a booth set up and I was going to speak, but
with our second sun coming like any week now, I push the pause
on that one. But I was going to be able to
see you there. Bummer.
Yeah, we have a booth and then moving.
I got it was great. I got interviewed and got to I

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was I was honored to be offered a spot to come, which was great.
And actually it was really cool too.
The chief science officer of oneof the raw material companies
that I work with. She also was on the Dave Asprey
show. So it was great.
I indirectly Zeta got referencedand you know, they have a
product landing page that had a lot of a lot of good things for

(01:11:53):
the body and I literally sold out of couple 100 or not a
couple 100 like 9080 bottles, something like that in like 2
days. So it was great just because
people were like, oh, they're talking about it on Dave Asprey.
So that's, that's one of the good things about utilizing and,
and being able to work with influencers because they have an
impact and they have a voice. And if you have a product or a

(01:12:17):
solution that echoes that voice and can contribute to that
impact and has the same mission can help solve problems, then
you know, I'm, I'm happy to be apart of that, that broadcast.
100 percent, 100%. I really appreciate the time.
Yeah, yeah, next year I should be there for sure.
Have a blast. Day without me.

(01:12:37):
Just enjoy it so good all up. Make some change, some lads,
make an impact for sure. Well, that I will do.
That's a mission and a goal. I I would like to also give out.
I'll send it to you maybe and post it in the and the podcast
notes. But there's another, another
code that I'd love to offer your, your audience to and
that's subscribe and then you can save more and I'll give you
a code and, and obviously you can cancel anytime you can delay

(01:12:59):
your subscription, things like that.
So even if you just want to try it for one order, use the code
so you can get more more savings.
Awesome. Yeah, I'll put it in the show
notes for sure. Well, again, I really do
appreciate the time. Thanks so much.
Learned a lot and keep in touch for sure.
Yeah, absolutely. Thank you again for having me.
I hope you're you bet could learn something.
Absolutely appreciate you. So till next time, take care.

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You too.