February 12, 2025 • 52 mins
Robin and Adam proudly present Episode 307 of Scary(ish)! Robin covers horrifying events in Korea's history and present day that are possible inspirations behind the hit show Squid Game. Listen, Share, Subscribe, and Review!
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Speaker 1 (00:12):
Hey, there's Spooky Franz, Spooky Fam, all the Spooky peeps.
Welcome to the Scaryish Podcast. I'm Robin Grace's is that
and we're here with another episode.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
I'm so happy you finally pronounced my name correctly?
Speaker 1 (00:26):
How do I usually say it?
Speaker 2 (00:28):
You said dis You just went ds, which is how
it's actually pronounced because it's lowercase D I and then
capital a z z z z z ok. Yeah, so right,
you happen to be back.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Cool. You're bringing a weird energy this time. You know why.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
It's because we're actually recording in the middle of the day.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Yeah, so we're not super super tight.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Yeah yeah, yeah. Before we get into the bulk of
our episode, we should do some shout outs. Shout out
to Fay, Shandon Dulce and Karl Olov. You guys are awesome.
Thank you so much. Thank you to everybody else who's
stuck with us through Patreon. I know it's been like
really slow, we're getting it.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
I feel like we're settled though, right, Like.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Yeah, getting settled this so I'm mailing out of package
in the next couple of weeks that are it's gonna
be like it's gonna have like seven items in it.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
The care package basically, well.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Not care factors, but it's gonna.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Be like a sorry us the wrong words.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Yeah, because I feel like it's care package, You're gonna
fit snacks and all this stuff in it. Also, one
time I had there's a tier where we do like
a goodie box, and I sent like tea that had
nuts in it, and the person and they had an
ally and so they were like, just so you know,
I have allergies. Uh So I don't send out food
(01:44):
snack things anymore anyway. Uh So this package is gonna
have like a handful of things in it because it's
been so long. So thank you everybody for sticking with us.
But yeah, so getting on to the episode, we're.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Not gonna do a whole like, hey, how you been,
what's been new?
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Oh, what's been new? What's new with you?
Speaker 2 (02:04):
What's been new? Not a lot. We've been going to
our doctor's appointments because you know, what we pay for insurance.
We should probably do that stuff for grown ups.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Yeah, if we're getting to that age where we should
go to the doctor, because if we don't go to
the doctor, you don't know what underlying things there are.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Preventative maintenance is definitely something I understand what you do
to automobiles.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Yeah, if you do for your car, you should do
it for your body.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
It's how I gave my dad that talk when he
was like sixty five about going to the doctor and
not avoiding them because he understood preventive maintenance for automobiles.
And now that I'm about to turn forty in three months,
I'm like, maybe I should start practicing what I preach,
because yeah, stuff's breaking down. Not everything works like it
used to, which is unfortunate.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
But yeah, so just that just just living life. Guys.
There's a lot that goes on in our personal lives
that we don't necessarily put out there, So thank you
everybody that's stuck with us.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
We would talk about it, but the first rule of
it is we're not allowed to talk about it. So
we have, yes, indeed, joined a fight club. It's dope
as fun.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Anyway.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
We do have a scheduled guest which we are recording
with this weekend, yes, which we're very excited, and that
episode will go up a week from when this one
goes up, whatever day that might be. We are recording
this the friday before the Super Bowl though, So you
want to toss out Super Bowl predictions. I know our
audience is just like champion at the bit to hear
what we have to say about the foosballs.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
No, I just know that it's Eagles spelled e g
lsus or something.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
No, it's spelled the proper way.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
No, I know. I'm just making fun of that video
that I've seen.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
All the chicker spells it wrong.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
She spells it completely This is the mayor of Philadelphia. Oh,
it's something like that, and she spells it completely wrong.
It was so fucking funny. People are making like cookies
for their Super Bowl parties' philling me wrong anyway. Yeah,
that's all I know is it's it's.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
You don't want to put in a prediction at all.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
You know it would be cool to see a threepeat.
Just saying I've never.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Seen what's never happen before. I'm gonna go with the Eagles.
I think they're gonna pull it off to prevent the
three peet from happening.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Well, if they win, I hope they've lathered up their
phone polls and stuff so that.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
People don't fall off of them and die, which happened
during the celebration when they won the game to go
to the super Bowl. Oh goodness. Yeah, that kind of
fits the motif of the things that we talk about,
like audience celebrations. That's a good idea for a topic,
like celebration's gone wrong. Yeah, yeah, maybe I'll do that.
That could be really fun.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Special guests will celebrate too much. Yeah, like when the
Dodgers won, they were setting buses on fire.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Yeah, people are dumb. Let's celebrate our city. Yeah, come on.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Anyway, let's get into the topic. It's been a while
for me.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
It's a robin week. This is your first one of
the years.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Yeah, it's the first one for me this year. It's
been a while since I've done an episode I feel like,
and so it's gonna be I think a typical robin
topic where it's probably something pop culture, ever and seeing
or something like that. But I wanted to cover something
that's probably already been covered a million times by now.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
A we haven't covered it though, That's the only thing
that matters.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Okay, but the newest season of Squid Game aired. What
this year?
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Did it started?
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Okay, so very recently, and I think it's just so fascinating.
We have watched the first season a lot, and it
doesn't help that I'm a huge fan of the show.
I don't know if you're a huge fan, but we
watched it immediately, and I want to be kind of.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
A bigger fan than you are. Are you I've watched
it way more time than you have.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
All Right, Well, I wanted to cover the inspiration behind
the show of.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
These, like the true story of squid Games.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Yeah, like the true story behind squid Games. Ish, it's
typical of our show, right, We're scary, Ish, this is
going to be true true events.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
This is awesome. I'm so excited for this because we
haven't covered one like this before, where it's like how
when we cover movies, we're like, we're going to cover
the true story of you know, whatever the movie is,
and it's never really directly relates, but it's still good
to know where it came from.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Yeah, So it's mor really fascinating. Weird true crime things
kind of to crop up a little bit. We we
cover stuff like this in our Hollywood horror episodes and
things like that, you know, true true stories behind whatever.
This isn't necessarily like a haunted Hollywood type thing.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Is this about mister Beast, though, Does mister Beast make
an appearance? No, are we going to talk about his
shitty burgers. Remember burgers first came out. I ordered one
and I was like this burger, and I like, onions
is the most potent onion bomb I've ever had in
my fucking mouth, and I threw it away the.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Whole mister Beast's squid Game thing. I'm not even gonna
touch that. But for those who have yet to see
Squid Games, if.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
You fuck are you doing with your life?
Speaker 1 (06:49):
You should watch it. It's good. It's it's again a
pretty morbid show. But someone like me who finds morbid, intense,
emotionally draining storylines apparently is entertaining.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Yet she won't watch Breaking Bad with me.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Yeah, I still haven't watched Breaking Bad. I've watched a
lot of TV. I just haven't. I haven't watched Fast
and the Furious, like that series of movies.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
None of those words that you described earlier apply to that.
That's just cheesy car racing bullshit.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Hey there's e motion in it? Is there?
Speaker 2 (07:19):
I don't know, family there's a motion because Paul Walker
passed away for sure? Yeah, I think there's extra emotion
than the movies would actually have if the entire cast
was still.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
In a car accident, right, So it's just a whole
I haven't watched any of those. There's a lot of
things I haven't seen yet. But this show Squid Games
is a South Korean series that is based around this
one character named Kihoon or number four fifty six, and
he and four hundred and fifty five other people join
(07:52):
what they think is a competition of traditional children's games.
And these games include things like red Lights or tug
a War. And these people are all in dire need
of money, all at different levels of financial hardship, different situations.
Some of them are criminals, some of them are just
people down on their luck. So these players, they enter
(08:16):
this competition to win a piece of a forty five
point six billion one prize.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Do you have the conversion?
Speaker 1 (08:26):
So in US dollars, that's about thirty two.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Million dollars for playing rounds of kids games, yeah, and winning.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
And they think it's just kids games. So they're placed
on this weird island in the middle of nowhere and
they're forced to participate in these quote unquote games. I
mean they are games technically, they are game.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Game, but the penalty for losing is not as is deadly.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Yeah, so only the games aren't just friendly games. If
you lose, you die, and surviving each game gets you
that much closer to winning the prize. So you fall
in love with the characters. You hate some of the characters.
There's backstabbing in the show.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
They're sex, you're.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Yeah, I guess.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
There is some sex a.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Little bit that's not part of the main story.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Your your heart is one of the games or anything gross.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Your heart kind of gets broken over and over and
over again, and it's all incredibly rivetting. I think.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
I think the term no one is sacred definitely applies. Yes,
although there are points in the show where you feel
like some fam have plot armor. But yeah, as far
as like the ancillary characters goes, you just gotta know, like, yep,
not gonna last. Yeah, just how it goes.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
But this is obviously not an ad. I wish we
were sponsored by Squid Games. I'd be so freaking cool.
I just highly recommend it. I think it's it's a fun,
interesting show to watch.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
I know there's a lot of people out there too
who are like, there's a their shows just like that
or other sources of media that did this first, and
it's like, yeah, we know, but we're talking about squid
Game right now, so stop farting in your hand and
smelling it.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
What the fuck You're stupid.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Battle Royal, Like, we fucking get it. We had this
conversation when the Hunger Games came out, but yeah, we're
talking about squid Games.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Which is funny because I just read a book that
is like Hunger Games mixed with The Bachelor, and it's.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Just you're smutting on a different level.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
I think I gave it, like I think I gave
it like a two or a three on my good Reads.
I was just like, this is I don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
How many what's the rating system? So two or three
is now bad?
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Five mid? It was mid. And then I had to
pay for the second book and I'm like, no thanks,
I'm not gonna buy the second book. Sorry. Anyway, So,
this second season of Squid Games was absolutely star studded.
Had a bunch of She says that it's in this one,
(11:02):
but it's not that the first season wasn't. But like,
if you've seen the memes, you know you know that this.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
If you're not familiar with Korean actors and actresses. You're
probably not aware of the fact that it's a star
studded cast.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Yeah, but little did I know. This show is based
on real things, like real events that happen in history.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
So the Great Red Light Green Light Wars of nineteen
nineteen or some shit like that. Right.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
So, Huang Dong Kyuk is the show's director and writer
and has said that you and the main character who
loses his job in the first season and kind of
begins the show, it's inspired by these strikes in two
thousand and nine. So in May of two thousand and nine,
(11:54):
there was a car company that had to lay off
about forty percent of its workforce, and it was like
a big company, so quote unquote big car company. They
laid off twenty six hundred people. More than twenty six
hundred people. Sang Yong nothing, we'd no. So hence this
guy down on his luck. He's one of those people
(12:15):
that got laid off. This resulted in an occupation of
this factory. I'm talking about real life now, Okay. This
resulted in an occupation of the factory and a strike
that lasted months and a number of people actually died
When this happened, a lot of union members were beaten,
they were jailed, the workers suffered mental and financial stresses.
(12:39):
Approximately thirty deaths by suicide and stress related issues are
attributed to this happening. It wasn't a pretty situation. So
them having the main character in the show so down
on his luck, like just doing anything to make money,
the gambling, all that stuff, a lot of people ended
(12:59):
up in situations like this, So that's kind of where
that is inspired from and begins. So the show really
points out the disparity in wealth between people. So there
are the mega rich people and then there are the
average joes who are just trying to do whatever they
can to get by.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
If you just dude, like hearing you describe it and
just knowing the show and knowing the premise, like the
fact that the premise is rooted in so much reality
is so disturbing, you know, like the strike, the fact
that they were just laying off these people essentially destroying
their lives. They were risking their lives to keep their
jobs by staying in the factory, and the idea that
(13:39):
there are people out there who have so much money
they could literally go to people like you or me
and anyone who's maybe down on their luck and be like,
I have so much money. I will find a number
that I can offer you where you will risk your
life from my entertainment. It's so sad.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
If some billionaire out there went to one hundred people
and were like, here's a million dollars, that's like it's
nothing to say nothing to them. It's nothing to them,
and they could change these people's lives. It's just ugh,
I'm like, I got four dollars in my bank account.
(14:14):
So the main character of this show tries to be
a good guy, and it is just so incredibly hard
to stay good in a world where everything else is
against you. Everybody is against you, all of this stuff.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
And other people who are directly Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
So these people that are competing with him, they're doing
whatever they need to survive. So when season one originally launched,
Lee and Choll of the Real Good Economic Research Institute
stated that quote, the total amount of debt run up
by the ordinary South Korean exceeds GDP by five percent, So.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Like the entire gross domestic product of South Korea, So
the average day good by the amount of debt from its.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Citizens by by the ordinary South Korean exceeds the gdpeople.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
What ordinary's class?
Speaker 1 (15:01):
I'm sure that's like middle class.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Yeah, that's fun.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Crazy. So according to Lee, you could save every penny
you earned for an entire year and still wouldn't be
able to pay your debt.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
So debt is a really, really, really big problem, which
is why a show like this that shows all these
people trying to make money to get out of this
debt is such a big deal.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Have you ever seen the movie Blow? I know this
is not scene missing, but it's kind of.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Is that the one with Johnny Depp? It is, yeah,
the big the one where he ends up like his
daughter visits him or at the end or does a business.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Yeah, yeah, spoilers. Robin jumps directly to the end shocker.
The beginning of the movie, he's like a kid. He
goes to work with his dad. His dad owns his
own construction company, and his dad struggles financially and that's
the motivation behind him becoming the guy who becomes like
the cocaine Kingpan of the eighties. But his dad tells
him when he's a kid, money isn't real. People only
think it is. And when I was younger, I remember
(15:55):
hearing that and being like, oh, that's just something weird
to say when you're broke, you know, to make your
kid feel better. And then the end of the movie
spoiler alert, Johnny Depp sends his dad a message while
he's in prison because his dad is on his deathbed,
and one of the things he says to him is like,
when you you told me when I was a kid,
money isn't real. And I finally understand what you mean.
And I remember watching that movie when I was younger
(16:16):
and thinking like, oh, it's cool that he understands the sentiment.
But now that I'm older, like I really get it
on a completely different level, Like we just made up money,
like as human beings, you know what I mean. And
it has so much control over everyone. Like the entire
premise of this is based around, you know, debt, and
debt is just like what people have all agreed to decide,
(16:38):
Like is this unit of measure that we exchange between
each other. It's not even tied to like, you know, gold,
like it used to be. Yeah, it's so fucking bizarre
to think about how much this thing that we just
all agreed is going to be important takes control of
your life and like we'll keep you like either elevated
above your fellow man or like feeling like you're inferior
to them and like deep in depression and because you
(17:00):
don't have enough of this thing that's technically not fucking real.
It's bizarre.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Well, it's kind of crazy that, like I said earlier,
how this show kind of shows you the disparity and
wealth between people because there's people that are in this
game that are in levels of debt that some of
the others can't even fathom getting to. And there's a
lot of people that fucked up in crypto or or
(17:26):
did you know, there's a whole bunch of different things.
You guys, got to watch the show. It's absolutely fascinating.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
But yeah, it's it's crazy thing too, because like we'll
be driving on the road, you know, we live in
southern California, and sometimes people will drive by us in
a car that's worth more than we both make in
several years, you know, and we always say to each other,
like that's a different life right there as they drive by.
But like different levels different life does not mean you're
(17:54):
free from the risk of debt. And if you do
somehow wind up in debt. When you're in that scale,
like that is a substantial amount of debt.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
It's like a level that we can't even think about.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Yeah, I just couldn't imagine like coming from a wealthy
family where you have that sort of money and then
suddenly being flatlined zero, where you realize like what the
scale is to try and climb that huge mountain to
like pay off your debt. From our perspective, like resetting
basically from like I'm a wealthy person too, I'm an atom,
you'd be like, oh, okay, cool, I will never pay
(18:25):
this debt off, Like this will never fucking happen.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
I saw a TikTok the other day, and it was
like a girl talking about how, like, you know, her
family's rich and she's really thankful and all this stuff.
But it's really hard to make friends because you need
to find friends that can keep up with you, and
there are not a lot of people in the world
that can keep up with your level of wealth where
you go on vacations all the time, where you go
to certain places and you go shopping at certain places,
(18:51):
and she and I was just like, that is a
problem I will never have. I think, I think I
do deal with issues like that where there are certain
people I can't keep up with.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Yeah, and so oh keeping up with the Joneses thing.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
I stay home, you know. And that's just how it is.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
I saw real on Instagram with some guys like no
one ever talks about the downsides of being rich. And
he's like in his room playing computer games. His room
is huge, It's bigger than like any room I've ever
lived in. And he has a glass of water and
he goes to go refill his glass of water and
he has to walk through this massive mansion. It's the
massive kitchen to refill his water.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Buy a smaller house, bruh.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
And he's just like, this is the hardest part about
being rich. And I saw in the comments people are like,
if you don't just buy yourself a water cooler to
keep in your room, you're a fucking moroney. You don't
deserve that money. It's like, holy shit, they're right one
hundred percent. Like we got a second floor, and I'm like,
extra fridge, let's fucking do this. It's just crazy how
completely different people's lives are based off that shit.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Yeah, anyway, that's not what the show is about. It's
not about being sad and poor, so.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
We just happened to be okay.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
So the first thing, Now there are rumors and viral
posts on social media platforms that have been created by AI.
I was one of those people that were like, Oh
my god, is this real? So I had to look
it up and turns out it was AI. So people
are posting these posting and reposting these videos over and
overclaiming that these photos are are evidence, you know, and
(20:26):
maybe it was done on purpose as a PR stunt,
like the show released this stuff as a PR stunt,
or people.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Just used AI to generate them to try and get well.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
It came out two months prior to the release of
season two, so it's like hyping up.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
The I mean, if I were if I knew the
show was going to come out that has a massive
fan base built in, and I wanted to build my
audience on a conspiracy theory bullshit TikTok account uh huh,
I would just sink everything like right now, all I'd
be posting is NFL is scripted, NFL is fake, NFL
is rig because that's what everyone'salkingbout right now. And then
in like two weeks F one is fake. F one
(21:03):
is scripted. These two drivers are having sex with each other,
Like that's the sort of thing that like muckrakers just
toss out there. So it's not shocking to me that
it happened at that time. But also people are really
bad at identifying AI. I saw real the other day
of like a meteor hitting the ocean and the ocean
exploding and like someone getting knocked down and their camera
(21:24):
stops working, And the comments weren't all like what shitty
CGI because it was terrible. It was like, I can't
believe they're keeping the stuff hidden from us. A. People
just fucking straight up bought in on it. People are
fucking more on sometimes. But if it is, there's no
way a meteor could hit a coastline with thousands upon
(21:47):
thousands upon thousands of people recording it and witnessing it,
and the effects of a meteor hitting the fucking planet
and sending massive tsunamis all around the globe, which I'm
guessing the reason people don't don't like say like, well,
this is obviously fake because of this is because they're like, well,
the Earth is flat, the wave wouldn't get over here.
Because you go to the edge of the Earth and
blah blah blah blah blah. So there's just no fucking way.
(22:09):
The amount of conspiracy would have to be around half
the entire human population. And I don't know two people
that can keep their fucking mouth shut about a small secret.
What the fuck are you talking about?
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Anybody that would know any information on it is dead?
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Okay, cool, So then we're down to four billion people. Okay, Thanos,
thanks for that.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Speaking of Thanos. Okay, So something like this gets released,
it definitely got me more hyped for this new season
that was coming out. I saw picks where it looked
like the actual compound is seen in the show, just
kind of like it was all rainbow pastel colored like
the show, just more run down, like old like kind
of you know, because it's supposed to be real, right,
(22:56):
But I just want to reiterate that it has come
out that they were all AI generated, So it those
if you've seen it and you were like, oh my god,
it's real. It's been said to be AI generated, and
you can see them on at City hermit Ai on Instagram,
And now that I'm looking at these pictures again, I
(23:17):
can totally see it being AI like they put the
same command, like the same sentence, and.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
It just now that you've used AI, Now.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
That I've used AI, you can see that it's just
the same image done.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Differently, slightly adjusted.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
So they're all like these stairs and a door like
a little door opening, just different views of stairs.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Upload images and ask it to augment it, so you
could literally upload a still of the show the show
like make this look retro, make this look dirty, blah
blah blah blah.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Yeah, so I'm learning. I think AI is very very
new for me. So I'm I'm still learning about it,
and there's a lot of people that have never us before.
I highly recommend, like it's free learning about it.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Yeah, you can totally go use it for free just
to see what it's capable of doing, to get yourself
familiar with it. Also, if you're a kid, if you're
a student, don't use it to write an essay. It's
very obvious and it's super well, there's so many tools
out there to detect if you've used it. Use it
to write your works sided page because it can do
it in proper MLA APA Chicago style formatting. Just tell
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it these are all the things I use then you
don't have to worry about going through and formatting it perfectly.
It does it so fucked. I use it for scaryish
scripts in the event someone's like, Hm, where'd you get
that source? But like, here's my work sided page, bitch,
because I just take all my tabs and I just
copypaste really quick, and I say, like, make a work
side of page.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Kids have it easy these days. I didn't have any
of that. You had to type all your EMLA shit yourself.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Someone that work said something that really pissed me off
the other day. It is something about being older than Google,
and I was like, I'm so much fucking older than Google.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
I'm older than ask jeez. We have a.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Recruiter who was just like, hang on, was like, hang on,
everyone pause. Do you know what the dial up sound
sounds like? And they're like, what's that? Yeah. I was
just like, if you can't.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Answer that question the microphone whatever.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
If you can't answer that question, we can't be friends.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
We have somebody at work who's who's the youngest in
the office and we were testing him the other day
like do you know what this is? Do you know
what this is? Do you know what this is? Because
it's just there's so many things this younger generation has
never had to see or do or handle, like like pagers.
I'm sure they don't even know how pages work.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
You know, they're stupid.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Or the fact that text messages used to be sent
on a different frequency than they are.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Also used to cost like ten cents per.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Message, so you could just do k enter. You better
be typing out your freaking the will.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
The coolest part, the coolest part of being born in
the eighties was is that you started out without these
things and then you watch the technology show up rapidly.
I remember growing up there like you're not always gonna
have a calculator in your pocket, and now we do.
You'd be an idiot to say that nowadays you have
a scientific calculator. Plus you can just go to a
website on your phone super quick. But it's been so
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cool watching that technology like advance, but also being at
the front wave of things enough where you could exploit
the technology because they can't. They hadn't figured out what
they gave you yet, Like back in the day when
you could turn your phone into a hot spot. When
they first introduced that, I knew so many people who
canceled their inner service and they just connect to their
phone because they did not have a limit yet or
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throttling when you were connecting to your phone and your
phone was just feeding your computer as much fucking data
as you could possibly get. And that's where the data
limits came from, because people were like, oh yeah, like
I went like twenty two terabytes. They were just downloading
seasons upon seasons of shows and just like burning through
all this fucking data. And like that's when people ISPs
(26:53):
were just like, what the fuck is going on right now?
There's so much Internet activity, but it's going through cell
phone network suddenly. It's just so fucking funny to me
how many times it's happened in my life because new
technology is hit and like nerdy hackers were just like,
I'm going to use this to fuck someone over.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Remember when the like p top sharing was like a
really big thing they do, and you would have these
servers with like people that would share everything that was
on their computer and you would just pick and choose
what you wanted to download off of people's stuff. I
can't believe that.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
I mean, honestly, with the way things are going, because
every streaming service is charging more and more these days,
we're moving back towards a society of pirates, and I
am all for it, Like, fuck them. The entire port
and the entire point of cutting the cord, The entire
point of cutting the cord was to reduce costs. And
now it's going to be more expensive.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Just to sign up for Amazon Prime subscription came out
and I was just flabbergasted by how incredibly expensive Hugh.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Jeff Bezos, greedy, greedy priy.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
It used to be under one hundred dollars and now
it's almost two hundred dollars.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Am not that old. How do you raise the price
that much in the span of me being an adult?
Speaker 2 (28:03):
I mean, we should probably not get this far down
the tangent of prices going up. Ah, because of how
much we pay in rent now versus how much we
paid just ten years ago at the apartment we lived
at with Charlie when we started Nerd Chills the podcast.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Oh yeah, it's.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Gone up so fucking much. Yeah, it's crazy, but we
we can keep going anyway.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Yes, we digress.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
So these are the things that drive people to agree
to a squid game. Yeah, be like, you know what,
fuck it. That's fine. If I lose, I die. If
I win, I get thirty two million dollars. You know
what that's called win win.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
You know the memes that I see so many memes
where people have that mentality where it's like take me
out forever or pay off my debt.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Win win. I mean, come on, let it in. I
saw it real. I haven't investigated it yet because it's
a potential future topic that the not apophice, but a
different asteroid that they found is no longer a zero
percent chance to hit. It got upgraded to like a
one point nine percent chance to hit in like twenty
thirty or twenty thirty two, and then they updated the
number again today it's like two point one percent. So
I'm like, that doesn't seem right, but at the same time,
(29:12):
fuck it whatever.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
So so say some other rocks collide with it and
change its path as yeah, no, no, no, in the
opposite direction, would it like go from two point whatever
percent to like five percent?
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Really rephrase your question. If rocks hit it, yeah, going
in the opposite direction. So you shot a rock at it.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
No, No, it's floating through space. If debris hit it
and changed its trajectory to aim closer to us, right.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Well, it could be any change in its course could
cause it to go up or down as far as
percent is chanced to hit us substantially, like a slight,
small adjustment, which is why they're saying, like for like
things that it's just such a small narrow window to
hit us. In the grand scheme of things, if you
can change the pathing the further out it is, then
you can essentially prevent it from happening. So there's lots
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of things that you could theoretically do, but realistically, like
I don't know. When they started landing probes on comets
to take samples of them and we did like three
different countries did it, I was like, Okay, yeah, I
get this. I've seen this fucking movie. We're testing things
nice and early so we can get Bruce Willison's fucking
team up there. I got it.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Anyway, enough, we've gone too long a tangent. That tangent
was probably like.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
This is what happens when we don't record frequently. There's
too much to get out.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
So these posts claimed things like people being forced into
an underground bunker in a no man's land of sorts,
and they would be forced to play games to survive.
And in an age of true crime documentaries where we
kind of all are morbidly fascinated, you kind of believe
that something like that could happen. Weirder things have happened
(30:56):
in our world's history, So Nazis used to perform horrific
science experiments on Jewish twins, Like.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
We've covered some of those acrost.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Yeah, nut, I don't even remember if we've done that specifically,
But that's a whole separate thing. Things like that have
happened in our history. Weird, crazy shit has happened in
our history.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Think about like the further back you go, like you
have society, like the fucking people are Like how often
do you think about the Roman Empire? For me, it's never,
but like if you actually sit down and think about it,
becuse people always think about their technological advancements in their
society and blah blah blah blah. The fucking Colisseum one
of the oldest standing artifacts that people still travel from
all around the world to go visit was a place
you'd have athletes go into to fight to the fucking death,
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and they were watched by tens of thousands of people
and everyone would cheer. That was normal, that was a
normal thing, and like, yeah, we've moved past that, but
it's just like we haven't gone that far in like
two three thousand years to the point where like, yeah,
we still have gladatorial combat, but like they wear their
helmets now and like they don't try and kill one another.
But it's like we're basically talking about the same thing,
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just like a different incentive, which is money.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
So yeah, some theorized that maybe this was some demilitarized
zone between South and North Korea, like different people had
different theories for things. The creator of the show hasn't
come out and indicated any such thing was an inspiration
behind the show. He he hasn't said that there were
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any other things other than those layoffs and stuff like that.
The factory, Yeah, the factory thing. So he did say, however,
that he was inspired by manga and anime, which I
think a lot of people are. I think movies like
Akuda really inspire a lot of filmmakers. And if you
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guys have yet to watch things like Akida, the Girls
introduced us to another which is so good. Another is
the one.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Where it's one of the best things I've ever seen.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
Yeah, that one was so stinking only.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Like twelve or thirteen episodes. Yeah, but it's like a
horror anime. Yeah, it's so fucking good.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Have you seen elfin Lied? I don't know if you've
seen nothing not. That one is also gory, but I
found it fascinating when I was younger.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
So you could do the show another as live action
and I would watch the thing. It wouldn't be fucked up,
like how so many animes are sucked up. You could
also do it as a series. It's like psychologically every
season is just the same premise over and over.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
How people do would be so awesome.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
I recommend anyone who likes anything morbid or horror movies
just go find a way to watch another and you
will be so fucking happy.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
Yeah, I mean it's anime.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
So if you don't like anim high your thing. In
a single night, Yeah, it was like four in the morning.
We're like keep going, like it doesn't matter if we're
tired tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
But yeah, if you haven't watched any of those outside
shows and you're just watching like Spyfam or or My Hero, Like,
there's other things out there, and once you start watching
those other things. It's like a whole other can of worms,
and you're gonna be like, I gotta keep going anyway,
I could see how he could get inspired by manga
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like Alice in Borderland that are genuinely about playing violent
games and puzzles to survive. What many people are connecting
to the show are the events that occurred at Brother's Home. Now,
the director, the guy who made the show, doesn't say
that this was something that actually inspired him, but it's
(34:34):
it could be, you know. That's so Brother's Home is
the name of the place, not me telling you.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Yeah, I was like explained, so it's.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Not something that happened in his brother's house or something
like that. It's it's this institution. So in the nineteen
seventies and nineteen eighties there was a place called Brother's
Home that happened to be the site of some insane
human rights violations. And now again I'm I'm not saying
that it was the inspiration behind Squid Game. It's just
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something that's real similar. Which is why I said a
true story ish because it hasn't been outright stated this
is inspiration.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
There's often times where creators won't directly cite their true
source because they don't want too much to overlap for
either legal reasons or they don't want the blowback from
saying like, oh yeah, I'm inspired by this. Like Hunger
Games is a perfect example, because I think it's Suzanne Collins.
Like when it came out, so many people in that
moment were like, Oh, she's talking about like this is
what will happen if the liberals take over too much?
(35:35):
Oh man, and the other half was like, this is
what will happen if the Conservatives take over too much?
And she's like neither, Like she desrips with like that
is not what I was thinking about when I wrote this.
And I'm sure she had some idea in her mind
of what a fascist government would look like that separates
people based off of task, But like she refused to
endorse either one because she she knows she would split
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her audience directly in half, Like half the people would
refuse to buy the fucking book after that. Wow, So
like they just straight up would you know, they'd be like, Oh,
she's insulting the thing I believe versus like Nope, nothing
like that, And then you can continue having everyone purchase it,
and then you know, turn into a movie franchise or whatever.
So I feel like in a lot of cases, creators
like he like he's doing here might not describe something
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if there's a level of controversy to it.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Yeah, I could see that. Well. Photos came out of
people in blue training suits and masks. A source I
read said that these pictures are actually from Brother's Home,
but I can't say for sure. I wasn't there. I
don't know, like I cannot, for the life of me
tell if these pictures are AI or not. I believe
(36:42):
I sent you a good number of photos that you
can post on Instagram later. But there's pictures of adults
and children and they're all walking together as a group
or eating in a dining hall together. But the BBC
Korea actually did a deep dive into this camp, if
you folks want to look more into it. They interviewed
(37:03):
a survivor of the camp who was reported to have
been taken in when he was only eight years old
in nineteen eighty four and when it was operating. Brothers Home,
located in Bussan, was advertising itself as a detention and
rehabilitation center for what they called vagrants, or as the
then law described them as beggars, gum sellers, or street
(37:27):
hustlers who without a fixed residence, harassed passers by by
begging or forcefully selling items. Very cold blooded description in
my opinion. Like what they actually took in were a
number of different types of people, including people that were
actually employed, because this description says they're like hustlers, you know,
(37:52):
but there were people that they took in that were
actually employed. There were orphans or children's that had been
briefly left unattended. Like it was just all these people
that they piled together that didn't necessarily meet the criteria.
And that's a hard one to believe, but you never
really know in situations like this one. Like, again, weirder
(38:15):
things have happened in our history, and it's estimated that
only ten percent of the prisoners were actually homeless.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
Police officers were said to be rewarded for sending people
to the camp and there weren't actually any checks that
were in place in this situation.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
So that's just the worst scenario you could ever imagine.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
Yeah, I think that's the downside to putting out something
like a reward for looking or hunting down a particular
type of person. Because you're just gonna get everything in everyone.
They just want the reward, and if there's no checks
in place.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
It's like a salesperson like, I just can relate this
to a game stop. No, I was gonna say, we're
gonna Solar City, slash Tesla whatever. I have an NDA,
so I can't say too much. But when you have
an incentive, which is like salespeople will be paid based
off how many panels they sell, that does not mean
they're going to sell you the appropriate system for your home.
(39:21):
They're going to sell you the most possible fucking panels
they ever could not saying that's what happened where I worked.
But in the solar industry, you often see any fucking
industry where you have salespeople incentivized based off of quantity,
means that's all they're going to push. So if you
have police officers who are incentivized off of just sending
people who are like undesirables or whatever to this place
(39:44):
where they're basically just going to be disappeared, and there's
no one checking to see what's going to happen, it's
just it's a scary.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
Premise, and stuff like that happens all the time, like
people get taken advantage of and just it's sad that
that is the world we live in.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
But well, this was the eighties, so right, you said,
this is an account from someone, yeah who went there
in the eighties. I'm guessing it's not still around.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
No, no, no, but like stuff like that still happens,
Like it might not be in this situation like this way,
but there are things that happened that we don't see daily,
that occurs behind the scenes. I I'm not a conspiracy
theorist by by any means.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
Are you always jump immediately to the most absurd conclusion.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
Anyway, So these people were only supposed to be kept
there for a year to be reformed, but in reality,
people would be kept way over that limit. They'd be
there for years. And it was reported that these individuals
that were sent to the Brother's home were forced to
live in dormitories where they lived and what could be
described as inhumane conditions. They would be physically and sexually abused.
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Not all the guards had what could be called the
inmates' best interests at heart. People were just drop dead
each day because they they didn't care about taking care
of them. It's estimated that around five hundred and fifty
one people died there, but there may be many more
that weren't reported. This was more of a militaristic operation.
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There was no monetary reward for these people. There was
no real competition. It was kind of just likened to
asylums that we might have seen or had out here
in America. At one point just shoved all these people
together and this was all hidden. Despite the torture and
the forced labor. This place earned awards from whatever authorities
(41:41):
issue awards for supposed philanthropical work in this instance, but
they were like touted to being like, you know, great
people were issued numbers, which is crazy. I mean, where
have we heard that before? And I don't just mean
squid games. But despite a capacity of approximately five hundred
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based on documentation, there may have been thousands at the
same time at some point. Once the real story of
what was going on within the institution came to light
in nineteen eighty seven, the director only received a two
and a half year sentence. So once all that stuff
came out, the guy who was running everything got a
(42:25):
two and a half year sentence. And I would like
to point out that top who plays Thanos in the second.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
Season Okay, yeah, his name is Thanos in this.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
Show was given two years of mandatory military service and
ten months and a decade of being forced out of
the entertainment industry for using weed.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
Using weed is a weird phrase. I don't know, like
for ingesting THHC.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
Yeah, to self medicate. You know, it's very interesting that
this guy who had a bunch of people die under
his watch only got two and a half years. Oh yeah, Uh.
The only reason why the program was shut down was
because thirty inmates happened to escape and exposed the situation.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
That's fucking crazy.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
So a bunch of people escaped and were like, bro,
this is happening. Imagine if they'd never escaped. Imagine if
no one ever found out, Like, how long would it
have gone for?
Speaker 2 (43:22):
And this is I mean, this is a stupid question,
but I guess just because of the level of atrocity
that's being committed here, I need to check. This is
South Korea we're talking. Yeah, this isn't North Korea. Yeah,
this is some shit you'd expect to hear. It's in
North Korea. Okay, you're saying bison, Like I know, I know,
trained Bison. I couldn't tell you which Korea that took
place in, Okay.
Speaker 1 (43:39):
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, South Korea.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
Okay, that's horrific.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
Yeah, it's it's crazy that this this happened and I
had no idea it existed if I hadn't looked more
into you know, all this stuff. Again, not the actual
inspiration behind squid Game, but it's really if if it were,
I wouldn't be shocked, right, you know. Anyway, that's not
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necessarily again, the complete inspiration, but a mix so things
we can definitely point to that are similar and relate to,
Like season two, a lot of cryptocurrency issues resulting in debt,
gambling issues, people trying to make a quick buck. There
were a lot of real life issues, I mean, in
both seasons.
Speaker 2 (44:23):
But it's so interesting too in season two that there's
someone who is responsible for a rug pole, which is
what they're calling when you hype up a coin, people
dump their money into it, and then the people who
created the coin cash out, immediately tank the value of it,
and then the coin dies after that. Yeah, that's called
a rug pole. That's what the Hawk to a Girl did.
It's like something very real that happens and in Squid
(44:46):
Game season two, there's someone who's responsible for a rug
pull and the people he fucked over in the game
and they're they're stuck together, so they know, like, that's
the guy that fucked us over. So he's in debt
and there in debt because of him. Yeah, so it's
interesting to see this very new form of fraud being represented,
like in the season.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
Two Modern problems, Yeah, modern problems require modern solutions. Well, yes,
good game, that's the modern solution. So a lot of
things culminate in something that maybe we can all relate
to a little bit, or or maybe just you want
to get away from your actual real life and want
to see other people struggle, and so you watch a
good game. But like I watch it and I'm like,
(45:27):
my life could be a lot worse, you know, I
could be those people that are like I need to
kill someone to make money.
Speaker 2 (45:33):
I mean, gambling addiction two is a very serious thing,
and I'm lucky enough to never have really encountered it
in my life. I have friends that gamble, some of
them gamble a lot, but like, there are some people
who legitimately have a severe addiction to gambling, and I
feel like that drives a lot of people into debt,
especially in like the squad game universe, Yeah, which nowadays
(45:55):
is like so much easier to get tied up in
because you can just pick up your phone download five
or six gambling apps. The next thing you know, you've
blown your entire life savings.
Speaker 1 (46:04):
You know, I have had issues not with gambling.
Speaker 2 (46:10):
But like, you just spent all that money on the
squares for the Super Bowl. I can't believe you spent.
Speaker 1 (46:18):
No, I was thinking about crane games. I was to
playing crane games.
Speaker 2 (46:22):
There are so many plushies in this fight because of
her crane. They used to not they didn't send her
the things she won because it was like a cell
phone app crane game, right. They didn't just send her like, oh,
she won the one. No, they'd wait till like the
end of the month and send her all the ship.
She wanted a giant box, that's how addicted she was.
Speaker 1 (46:40):
Yeah, and so I don't anymore anybody want plushies. I
got a lot. Everything that happens in our lives inspires someone,
you know. I think that's that's with the all the
films and the things that we watch all the time,
all that inspiration comes from somewhere, like all the horror
movies that we watched, someone sit sat there and been like,
(47:03):
you know what this is what this reminds me of?
And then they write this horrific fucking movie.
Speaker 2 (47:08):
It's crazy to think that atrocities can be so so
horrible they could inspire someone to create a work of
fiction to show off how horrible an atrocity was. Yeah,
that's that's kind of bizarre to think about.
Speaker 1 (47:22):
But I mean, it doesn't have to be an atrocity.
I mean, look at at Fifty Shades and Twilight. Twilight
came out. Fifty Shades was like fan fiction.
Speaker 2 (47:32):
Thing, very different worlds that we're talking about here, But yeah,
fan fiction can be inspiration from a work of art.
Speaker 1 (47:38):
Yeah, oh, you think Twilight's a work of art?
Speaker 2 (47:40):
No, I was trying to be nice this fucking chick.
Was it today or yesterday? She leaned in close to me,
and I thought she was humming and singing sweetly because
I wasn't feeling well and she was humming the hoa
hoa ho a song to me from fucking Twilight, and
I was just like, I want so much more right now. Hey, hey, hey,
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so it passes for romance in this goddamn house.
Speaker 1 (48:06):
Uh, Twilight is a treasure anyway. Hope you guys thought
this stuff was interesting. I definitely did. I went down
a whole squid Games rabbit hole. It was fun and
I hope you guys if you've watched it, cool, hope
you enjoyed it. If you're not into that thing, I
get it, it's not everyone's cup of tea, but uh yeah,
(48:29):
thanks for sticking around for this tangent Field episode. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:32):
I had fun though, Like sometimes the topic is like, yeah,
we're Tangentine, but we're still staying pretty close to what
the main story is. So good episode, good job research.
Speaker 1 (48:42):
It's definitely for me. It was definitely like an eighty
D episode all over the place.
Speaker 2 (48:48):
There's just it's so hard to do research nowadays because
there's so much bullshit out there, like investigating anything. There
is just a mountain of AI generated nonsense from bullshit
click beta accounts. Yeah, and it's so frustrating to try
and dig into. So yeah, we'll see what our future
topics are gonna wind up being. But we have a
special guest coming on next episode with a special topic,
(49:11):
and I think it's I'm not going to actually say it.
I have an idea of what it's going to be,
so I'm excited to hear. Oh okay, yeah, but that said,
we'll say that for next time on Dragon Balls No
Scary Ish.
Speaker 1 (49:24):
I was like, what if we get in trouble for
saying something like you know anyway, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (49:29):
Yeah, that's everything we have for this episode.
Speaker 1 (49:32):
If you guys have a story you would like to
share with us about something that happened in your life
or your family that's like haunting's, true crime, stuff like that. Supernatural, yeah, supernatural, paranormal,
let us know. Send us your story at storytime scarish
dot com. We would love to share it with the
rest of the Spooky fam through our Storytime episodes. If
(49:54):
you haven't heard one of our Storytime episodes, there's a
bunch to go through to check it out. Why don't
you do the Patreon thing this time?
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thank you so much like we did earlier, because it
really does me in the world to us that folks
out there would help us and support us financially. And
for those of you who can't support us financially or
just won't, fuck you. I'm kidding seriously, we really do
appreciate all the support that we still get over seven
years into this show. It's amazing to see and we
have had a lot easier time getting through life with
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all the challenges it's face because we feel like we
can comfortably take time off from the show if we
need to to deal with work and death's in the
family and people being sick and all that sort of stuff.
Whereas the first five years of this show, where rain
or shine, death or not, you're going to have an
episode every fucking Tuesday, which in the grand scheme of things,
is a lot harder for us to achieve. And I'm
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happy that we're at a place now where when things
are good, we can churn on episodes and when things
are rough we can step away for a little bit.
So thank you to the people that let us know
that we can take care of ourselves, because it really
did help us. But yeah, I think that's everything we have,
So Robin, I'll turn it back over to you to
sign us out.
Speaker 1 (51:43):
Keep on creeping on, and we'll talk to you guys later.
Speaker 2 (51:45):
A bye e
Hey, there's Spooky Franz, Spooky Fam, all the Spooky peeps.
Welcome to the Scaryish Podcast. I'm Robin Grace's is that
and we're here with another episode.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
I'm so happy you finally pronounced my name correctly?
Speaker 1 (00:26):
How do I usually say it?
Speaker 2 (00:28):
You said dis You just went ds, which is how
it's actually pronounced because it's lowercase D I and then
capital a z z z z z ok. Yeah, so right,
you happen to be back.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Cool. You're bringing a weird energy this time. You know why.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
It's because we're actually recording in the middle of the day.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Yeah, so we're not super super tight.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Yeah yeah, yeah. Before we get into the bulk of
our episode, we should do some shout outs. Shout out
to Fay, Shandon Dulce and Karl Olov. You guys are awesome.
Thank you so much. Thank you to everybody else who's
stuck with us through Patreon. I know it's been like
really slow, we're getting it.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
I feel like we're settled though, right, Like.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Yeah, getting settled this so I'm mailing out of package
in the next couple of weeks that are it's gonna
be like it's gonna have like seven items in it.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
The care package basically, well.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Not care factors, but it's gonna.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Be like a sorry us the wrong words.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Yeah, because I feel like it's care package, You're gonna
fit snacks and all this stuff in it. Also, one
time I had there's a tier where we do like
a goodie box, and I sent like tea that had
nuts in it, and the person and they had an
ally and so they were like, just so you know,
I have allergies. Uh So I don't send out food
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snack things anymore anyway. Uh So this package is gonna
have like a handful of things in it because it's
been so long. So thank you everybody for sticking with us.
But yeah, so getting on to the episode, we're.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Not gonna do a whole like, hey, how you been,
what's been new?
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Oh, what's been new? What's new with you?
Speaker 2 (02:04):
What's been new? Not a lot. We've been going to
our doctor's appointments because you know, what we pay for insurance.
We should probably do that stuff for grown ups.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Yeah, if we're getting to that age where we should
go to the doctor, because if we don't go to
the doctor, you don't know what underlying things there are.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Preventative maintenance is definitely something I understand what you do
to automobiles.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Yeah, if you do for your car, you should do
it for your body.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
It's how I gave my dad that talk when he
was like sixty five about going to the doctor and
not avoiding them because he understood preventive maintenance for automobiles.
And now that I'm about to turn forty in three months,
I'm like, maybe I should start practicing what I preach,
because yeah, stuff's breaking down. Not everything works like it
used to, which is unfortunate.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
But yeah, so just that just just living life. Guys.
There's a lot that goes on in our personal lives
that we don't necessarily put out there, So thank you
everybody that's stuck with us.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
We would talk about it, but the first rule of
it is we're not allowed to talk about it. So
we have, yes, indeed, joined a fight club. It's dope
as fun.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Anyway.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
We do have a scheduled guest which we are recording
with this weekend, yes, which we're very excited, and that
episode will go up a week from when this one
goes up, whatever day that might be. We are recording
this the friday before the Super Bowl though, So you
want to toss out Super Bowl predictions. I know our
audience is just like champion at the bit to hear
what we have to say about the foosballs.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
No, I just know that it's Eagles spelled e g
lsus or something.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
No, it's spelled the proper way.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
No, I know. I'm just making fun of that video
that I've seen.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
All the chicker spells it wrong.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
She spells it completely This is the mayor of Philadelphia. Oh,
it's something like that, and she spells it completely wrong.
It was so fucking funny. People are making like cookies
for their Super Bowl parties' philling me wrong anyway. Yeah,
that's all I know is it's it's.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
You don't want to put in a prediction at all.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
You know it would be cool to see a threepeat.
Just saying I've never.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Seen what's never happen before. I'm gonna go with the Eagles.
I think they're gonna pull it off to prevent the
three peet from happening.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Well, if they win, I hope they've lathered up their
phone polls and stuff so that.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
People don't fall off of them and die, which happened
during the celebration when they won the game to go
to the super Bowl. Oh goodness. Yeah, that kind of
fits the motif of the things that we talk about,
like audience celebrations. That's a good idea for a topic,
like celebration's gone wrong. Yeah, yeah, maybe I'll do that.
That could be really fun.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Special guests will celebrate too much. Yeah, like when the
Dodgers won, they were setting buses on fire.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Yeah, people are dumb. Let's celebrate our city. Yeah, come on.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Anyway, let's get into the topic. It's been a while
for me.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
It's a robin week. This is your first one of
the years.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Yeah, it's the first one for me this year. It's
been a while since I've done an episode I feel like,
and so it's gonna be I think a typical robin
topic where it's probably something pop culture, ever and seeing
or something like that. But I wanted to cover something
that's probably already been covered a million times by now.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
A we haven't covered it though, That's the only thing
that matters.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Okay, but the newest season of Squid Game aired. What
this year?
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Did it started?
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Okay, so very recently, and I think it's just so fascinating.
We have watched the first season a lot, and it
doesn't help that I'm a huge fan of the show.
I don't know if you're a huge fan, but we
watched it immediately, and I want to be kind of.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
A bigger fan than you are. Are you I've watched
it way more time than you have.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
All Right, Well, I wanted to cover the inspiration behind
the show of.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
These, like the true story of squid Games.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Yeah, like the true story behind squid Games. Ish, it's
typical of our show, right, We're scary, Ish, this is
going to be true true events.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
This is awesome. I'm so excited for this because we
haven't covered one like this before, where it's like how
when we cover movies, we're like, we're going to cover
the true story of you know, whatever the movie is,
and it's never really directly relates, but it's still good
to know where it came from.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Yeah, So it's mor really fascinating. Weird true crime things
kind of to crop up a little bit. We we
cover stuff like this in our Hollywood horror episodes and
things like that, you know, true true stories behind whatever.
This isn't necessarily like a haunted Hollywood type thing.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Is this about mister Beast, though, Does mister Beast make
an appearance? No, are we going to talk about his
shitty burgers. Remember burgers first came out. I ordered one
and I was like this burger, and I like, onions
is the most potent onion bomb I've ever had in
my fucking mouth, and I threw it away the.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Whole mister Beast's squid Game thing. I'm not even gonna
touch that. But for those who have yet to see
Squid Games, if.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
You fuck are you doing with your life?
Speaker 1 (06:49):
You should watch it. It's good. It's it's again a
pretty morbid show. But someone like me who finds morbid, intense,
emotionally draining storylines apparently is entertaining.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Yet she won't watch Breaking Bad with me.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Yeah, I still haven't watched Breaking Bad. I've watched a
lot of TV. I just haven't. I haven't watched Fast
and the Furious, like that series of movies.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
None of those words that you described earlier apply to that.
That's just cheesy car racing bullshit.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Hey there's e motion in it? Is there?
Speaker 2 (07:19):
I don't know, family there's a motion because Paul Walker
passed away for sure? Yeah, I think there's extra emotion
than the movies would actually have if the entire cast
was still.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
In a car accident, right, So it's just a whole
I haven't watched any of those. There's a lot of
things I haven't seen yet. But this show Squid Games
is a South Korean series that is based around this
one character named Kihoon or number four fifty six, and
he and four hundred and fifty five other people join
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what they think is a competition of traditional children's games.
And these games include things like red Lights or tug
a War. And these people are all in dire need
of money, all at different levels of financial hardship, different situations.
Some of them are criminals, some of them are just
people down on their luck. So these players, they enter
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this competition to win a piece of a forty five
point six billion one prize.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Do you have the conversion?
Speaker 1 (08:26):
So in US dollars, that's about thirty two.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Million dollars for playing rounds of kids games, yeah, and winning.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
And they think it's just kids games. So they're placed
on this weird island in the middle of nowhere and
they're forced to participate in these quote unquote games. I
mean they are games technically, they are game.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Game, but the penalty for losing is not as is deadly.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Yeah, so only the games aren't just friendly games. If
you lose, you die, and surviving each game gets you
that much closer to winning the prize. So you fall
in love with the characters. You hate some of the characters.
There's backstabbing in the show.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
They're sex, you're.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Yeah, I guess.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
There is some sex a.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Little bit that's not part of the main story.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Your your heart is one of the games or anything gross.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Your heart kind of gets broken over and over and
over again, and it's all incredibly rivetting. I think.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
I think the term no one is sacred definitely applies. Yes,
although there are points in the show where you feel
like some fam have plot armor. But yeah, as far
as like the ancillary characters goes, you just gotta know, like, yep,
not gonna last. Yeah, just how it goes.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
But this is obviously not an ad. I wish we
were sponsored by Squid Games. I'd be so freaking cool.
I just highly recommend it. I think it's it's a fun,
interesting show to watch.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
I know there's a lot of people out there too
who are like, there's a their shows just like that
or other sources of media that did this first, and
it's like, yeah, we know, but we're talking about squid
Game right now, so stop farting in your hand and
smelling it.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
What the fuck You're stupid.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Battle Royal, Like, we fucking get it. We had this
conversation when the Hunger Games came out, but yeah, we're
talking about squid Games.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Which is funny because I just read a book that
is like Hunger Games mixed with The Bachelor, and it's.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Just you're smutting on a different level.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
I think I gave it, like I think I gave
it like a two or a three on my good Reads.
I was just like, this is I don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
How many what's the rating system? So two or three
is now bad?
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Five mid? It was mid. And then I had to
pay for the second book and I'm like, no thanks,
I'm not gonna buy the second book. Sorry. Anyway, So,
this second season of Squid Games was absolutely star studded.
Had a bunch of She says that it's in this one,
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but it's not that the first season wasn't. But like,
if you've seen the memes, you know you know that this.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
If you're not familiar with Korean actors and actresses. You're
probably not aware of the fact that it's a star
studded cast.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Yeah, but little did I know. This show is based
on real things, like real events that happen in history.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
So the Great Red Light Green Light Wars of nineteen
nineteen or some shit like that. Right.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
So, Huang Dong Kyuk is the show's director and writer
and has said that you and the main character who
loses his job in the first season and kind of
begins the show, it's inspired by these strikes in two
thousand and nine. So in May of two thousand and nine,
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there was a car company that had to lay off
about forty percent of its workforce, and it was like
a big company, so quote unquote big car company. They
laid off twenty six hundred people. More than twenty six
hundred people. Sang Yong nothing, we'd no. So hence this
guy down on his luck. He's one of those people
(12:15):
that got laid off. This resulted in an occupation of
this factory. I'm talking about real life now, Okay. This
resulted in an occupation of the factory and a strike
that lasted months and a number of people actually died
When this happened, a lot of union members were beaten,
they were jailed, the workers suffered mental and financial stresses.
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Approximately thirty deaths by suicide and stress related issues are
attributed to this happening. It wasn't a pretty situation. So
them having the main character in the show so down
on his luck, like just doing anything to make money,
the gambling, all that stuff, a lot of people ended
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up in situations like this, So that's kind of where
that is inspired from and begins. So the show really
points out the disparity in wealth between people. So there
are the mega rich people and then there are the
average joes who are just trying to do whatever they
can to get by.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
If you just dude, like hearing you describe it and
just knowing the show and knowing the premise, like the
fact that the premise is rooted in so much reality
is so disturbing, you know, like the strike, the fact
that they were just laying off these people essentially destroying
their lives. They were risking their lives to keep their
jobs by staying in the factory, and the idea that
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there are people out there who have so much money
they could literally go to people like you or me
and anyone who's maybe down on their luck and be like,
I have so much money. I will find a number
that I can offer you where you will risk your
life from my entertainment. It's so sad.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
If some billionaire out there went to one hundred people
and were like, here's a million dollars, that's like it's
nothing to say nothing to them. It's nothing to them,
and they could change these people's lives. It's just ugh,
I'm like, I got four dollars in my bank account.
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So the main character of this show tries to be
a good guy, and it is just so incredibly hard
to stay good in a world where everything else is
against you. Everybody is against you, all of this stuff.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
And other people who are directly Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
So these people that are competing with him, they're doing
whatever they need to survive. So when season one originally launched,
Lee and Choll of the Real Good Economic Research Institute
stated that quote, the total amount of debt run up
by the ordinary South Korean exceeds GDP by five percent, So.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Like the entire gross domestic product of South Korea, So
the average day good by the amount of debt from its.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Citizens by by the ordinary South Korean exceeds the gdpeople.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
What ordinary's class?
Speaker 1 (15:01):
I'm sure that's like middle class.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Yeah, that's fun.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Crazy. So according to Lee, you could save every penny
you earned for an entire year and still wouldn't be
able to pay your debt.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
So debt is a really, really, really big problem, which
is why a show like this that shows all these
people trying to make money to get out of this
debt is such a big deal.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Have you ever seen the movie Blow? I know this
is not scene missing, but it's kind of.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Is that the one with Johnny Depp? It is, yeah,
the big the one where he ends up like his
daughter visits him or at the end or does a business.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Yeah, yeah, spoilers. Robin jumps directly to the end shocker.
The beginning of the movie, he's like a kid. He
goes to work with his dad. His dad owns his
own construction company, and his dad struggles financially and that's
the motivation behind him becoming the guy who becomes like
the cocaine Kingpan of the eighties. But his dad tells
him when he's a kid, money isn't real. People only
think it is. And when I was younger, I remember
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hearing that and being like, oh, that's just something weird
to say when you're broke, you know, to make your
kid feel better. And then the end of the movie
spoiler alert, Johnny Depp sends his dad a message while
he's in prison because his dad is on his deathbed,
and one of the things he says to him is like,
when you you told me when I was a kid,
money isn't real. And I finally understand what you mean.
And I remember watching that movie when I was younger
(16:16):
and thinking like, oh, it's cool that he understands the sentiment.
But now that I'm older, like I really get it
on a completely different level, Like we just made up money,
like as human beings, you know what I mean. And
it has so much control over everyone. Like the entire
premise of this is based around, you know, debt, and
debt is just like what people have all agreed to decide,
(16:38):
Like is this unit of measure that we exchange between
each other. It's not even tied to like, you know, gold,
like it used to be. Yeah, it's so fucking bizarre
to think about how much this thing that we just
all agreed is going to be important takes control of
your life and like we'll keep you like either elevated
above your fellow man or like feeling like you're inferior
to them and like deep in depression and because you
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don't have enough of this thing that's technically not fucking real.
It's bizarre.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Well, it's kind of crazy that, like I said earlier,
how this show kind of shows you the disparity and
wealth between people because there's people that are in this
game that are in levels of debt that some of
the others can't even fathom getting to. And there's a
lot of people that fucked up in crypto or or
(17:26):
did you know, there's a whole bunch of different things.
You guys, got to watch the show. It's absolutely fascinating.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
But yeah, it's it's crazy thing too, because like we'll
be driving on the road, you know, we live in
southern California, and sometimes people will drive by us in
a car that's worth more than we both make in
several years, you know, and we always say to each other,
like that's a different life right there as they drive by.
But like different levels different life does not mean you're
(17:54):
free from the risk of debt. And if you do
somehow wind up in debt. When you're in that scale,
like that is a substantial amount of debt.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
It's like a level that we can't even think about.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Yeah, I just couldn't imagine like coming from a wealthy
family where you have that sort of money and then
suddenly being flatlined zero, where you realize like what the
scale is to try and climb that huge mountain to
like pay off your debt. From our perspective, like resetting
basically from like I'm a wealthy person too, I'm an atom,
you'd be like, oh, okay, cool, I will never pay
(18:25):
this debt off, Like this will never fucking happen.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
I saw a TikTok the other day, and it was
like a girl talking about how, like, you know, her
family's rich and she's really thankful and all this stuff.
But it's really hard to make friends because you need
to find friends that can keep up with you, and
there are not a lot of people in the world
that can keep up with your level of wealth where
you go on vacations all the time, where you go
to certain places and you go shopping at certain places,
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and she and I was just like, that is a
problem I will never have. I think, I think I
do deal with issues like that where there are certain
people I can't keep up with.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Yeah, and so oh keeping up with the Joneses thing.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
I stay home, you know. And that's just how it is.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
I saw real on Instagram with some guys like no
one ever talks about the downsides of being rich. And
he's like in his room playing computer games. His room
is huge, It's bigger than like any room I've ever
lived in. And he has a glass of water and
he goes to go refill his glass of water and
he has to walk through this massive mansion. It's the
massive kitchen to refill his water.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Buy a smaller house, bruh.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
And he's just like, this is the hardest part about
being rich. And I saw in the comments people are like,
if you don't just buy yourself a water cooler to
keep in your room, you're a fucking moroney. You don't
deserve that money. It's like, holy shit, they're right one
hundred percent. Like we got a second floor, and I'm like,
extra fridge, let's fucking do this. It's just crazy how
completely different people's lives are based off that shit.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Yeah, anyway, that's not what the show is about. It's
not about being sad and poor, so.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
We just happened to be okay.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
So the first thing, Now there are rumors and viral
posts on social media platforms that have been created by AI.
I was one of those people that were like, Oh
my god, is this real? So I had to look
it up and turns out it was AI. So people
are posting these posting and reposting these videos over and
overclaiming that these photos are are evidence, you know, and
(20:26):
maybe it was done on purpose as a PR stunt,
like the show released this stuff as a PR stunt,
or people.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Just used AI to generate them to try and get well.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
It came out two months prior to the release of
season two, so it's like hyping up.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
The I mean, if I were if I knew the
show was going to come out that has a massive
fan base built in, and I wanted to build my
audience on a conspiracy theory bullshit TikTok account uh huh,
I would just sink everything like right now, all I'd
be posting is NFL is scripted, NFL is fake, NFL
is rig because that's what everyone'salkingbout right now. And then
in like two weeks F one is fake. F one
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is scripted. These two drivers are having sex with each other,
Like that's the sort of thing that like muckrakers just
toss out there. So it's not shocking to me that
it happened at that time. But also people are really
bad at identifying AI. I saw real the other day
of like a meteor hitting the ocean and the ocean
exploding and like someone getting knocked down and their camera
(21:24):
stops working, And the comments weren't all like what shitty
CGI because it was terrible. It was like, I can't
believe they're keeping the stuff hidden from us. A. People
just fucking straight up bought in on it. People are
fucking more on sometimes. But if it is, there's no
way a meteor could hit a coastline with thousands upon
(21:47):
thousands upon thousands of people recording it and witnessing it,
and the effects of a meteor hitting the fucking planet
and sending massive tsunamis all around the globe, which I'm
guessing the reason people don't don't like say like, well,
this is obviously fake because of this is because they're like, well,
the Earth is flat, the wave wouldn't get over here.
Because you go to the edge of the Earth and
blah blah blah blah blah. So there's just no fucking way.
(22:09):
The amount of conspiracy would have to be around half
the entire human population. And I don't know two people
that can keep their fucking mouth shut about a small secret.
What the fuck are you talking about?
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Anybody that would know any information on it is dead?
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Okay, cool, So then we're down to four billion people. Okay, Thanos,
thanks for that.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Speaking of Thanos. Okay, So something like this gets released,
it definitely got me more hyped for this new season
that was coming out. I saw picks where it looked
like the actual compound is seen in the show, just
kind of like it was all rainbow pastel colored like
the show, just more run down, like old like kind
of you know, because it's supposed to be real, right,
(22:56):
But I just want to reiterate that it has come
out that they were all AI generated, So it those
if you've seen it and you were like, oh my god,
it's real. It's been said to be AI generated, and
you can see them on at City hermit Ai on Instagram,
And now that I'm looking at these pictures again, I
(23:17):
can totally see it being AI like they put the
same command, like the same sentence, and.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
It just now that you've used AI, Now.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
That I've used AI, you can see that it's just
the same image done.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Differently, slightly adjusted.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
So they're all like these stairs and a door like
a little door opening, just different views of stairs.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Upload images and ask it to augment it, so you
could literally upload a still of the show the show
like make this look retro, make this look dirty, blah
blah blah blah.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Yeah, so I'm learning. I think AI is very very
new for me. So I'm I'm still learning about it,
and there's a lot of people that have never us before.
I highly recommend, like it's free learning about it.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Yeah, you can totally go use it for free just
to see what it's capable of doing, to get yourself
familiar with it. Also, if you're a kid, if you're
a student, don't use it to write an essay. It's
very obvious and it's super well, there's so many tools
out there to detect if you've used it. Use it
to write your works sided page because it can do
it in proper MLA APA Chicago style formatting. Just tell
(24:24):
it these are all the things I use then you
don't have to worry about going through and formatting it perfectly.
It does it so fucked. I use it for scaryish
scripts in the event someone's like, Hm, where'd you get
that source? But like, here's my work sided page, bitch,
because I just take all my tabs and I just
copypaste really quick, and I say, like, make a work
side of page.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Kids have it easy these days. I didn't have any
of that. You had to type all your EMLA shit yourself.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Someone that work said something that really pissed me off
the other day. It is something about being older than Google,
and I was like, I'm so much fucking older than Google.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
I'm older than ask jeez. We have a.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Recruiter who was just like, hang on, was like, hang on,
everyone pause. Do you know what the dial up sound
sounds like? And they're like, what's that? Yeah. I was
just like, if you can't.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Answer that question the microphone whatever.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
If you can't answer that question, we can't be friends.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
We have somebody at work who's who's the youngest in
the office and we were testing him the other day
like do you know what this is? Do you know
what this is? Do you know what this is? Because
it's just there's so many things this younger generation has
never had to see or do or handle, like like pagers.
I'm sure they don't even know how pages work.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
You know, they're stupid.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Or the fact that text messages used to be sent
on a different frequency than they are.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Also used to cost like ten cents per.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Message, so you could just do k enter. You better
be typing out your freaking the will.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
The coolest part, the coolest part of being born in
the eighties was is that you started out without these
things and then you watch the technology show up rapidly.
I remember growing up there like you're not always gonna
have a calculator in your pocket, and now we do.
You'd be an idiot to say that nowadays you have
a scientific calculator. Plus you can just go to a
website on your phone super quick. But it's been so
(26:11):
cool watching that technology like advance, but also being at
the front wave of things enough where you could exploit
the technology because they can't. They hadn't figured out what
they gave you yet, Like back in the day when
you could turn your phone into a hot spot. When
they first introduced that, I knew so many people who
canceled their inner service and they just connect to their
phone because they did not have a limit yet or
(26:31):
throttling when you were connecting to your phone and your
phone was just feeding your computer as much fucking data
as you could possibly get. And that's where the data
limits came from, because people were like, oh yeah, like
I went like twenty two terabytes. They were just downloading
seasons upon seasons of shows and just like burning through
all this fucking data. And like that's when people ISPs
(26:53):
were just like, what the fuck is going on right now?
There's so much Internet activity, but it's going through cell
phone network suddenly. It's just so fucking funny to me
how many times it's happened in my life because new
technology is hit and like nerdy hackers were just like,
I'm going to use this to fuck someone over.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Remember when the like p top sharing was like a
really big thing they do, and you would have these
servers with like people that would share everything that was
on their computer and you would just pick and choose
what you wanted to download off of people's stuff. I
can't believe that.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
I mean, honestly, with the way things are going, because
every streaming service is charging more and more these days,
we're moving back towards a society of pirates, and I
am all for it, Like, fuck them. The entire port
and the entire point of cutting the cord, The entire
point of cutting the cord was to reduce costs. And
now it's going to be more expensive.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Just to sign up for Amazon Prime subscription came out
and I was just flabbergasted by how incredibly expensive Hugh.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Jeff Bezos, greedy, greedy priy.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
It used to be under one hundred dollars and now
it's almost two hundred dollars.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Am not that old. How do you raise the price
that much in the span of me being an adult?
Speaker 2 (28:03):
I mean, we should probably not get this far down
the tangent of prices going up. Ah, because of how
much we pay in rent now versus how much we
paid just ten years ago at the apartment we lived
at with Charlie when we started Nerd Chills the podcast.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Oh yeah, it's.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Gone up so fucking much. Yeah, it's crazy, but we
we can keep going anyway.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Yes, we digress.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
So these are the things that drive people to agree
to a squid game. Yeah, be like, you know what,
fuck it. That's fine. If I lose, I die. If
I win, I get thirty two million dollars. You know
what that's called win win.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
You know the memes that I see so many memes
where people have that mentality where it's like take me
out forever or pay off my debt.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Win win. I mean, come on, let it in. I
saw it real. I haven't investigated it yet because it's
a potential future topic that the not apophice, but a
different asteroid that they found is no longer a zero
percent chance to hit. It got upgraded to like a
one point nine percent chance to hit in like twenty
thirty or twenty thirty two, and then they updated the
number again today it's like two point one percent. So
I'm like, that doesn't seem right, but at the same time,
(29:12):
fuck it whatever.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
So so say some other rocks collide with it and
change its path as yeah, no, no, no, in the
opposite direction, would it like go from two point whatever
percent to like five percent?
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Really rephrase your question. If rocks hit it, yeah, going
in the opposite direction. So you shot a rock at it.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
No, No, it's floating through space. If debris hit it
and changed its trajectory to aim closer to us, right.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Well, it could be any change in its course could
cause it to go up or down as far as
percent is chanced to hit us substantially, like a slight,
small adjustment, which is why they're saying, like for like
things that it's just such a small narrow window to
hit us. In the grand scheme of things, if you
can change the pathing the further out it is, then
you can essentially prevent it from happening. So there's lots
(30:06):
of things that you could theoretically do, but realistically, like
I don't know. When they started landing probes on comets
to take samples of them and we did like three
different countries did it, I was like, Okay, yeah, I
get this. I've seen this fucking movie. We're testing things
nice and early so we can get Bruce Willison's fucking
team up there. I got it.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Anyway, enough, we've gone too long a tangent. That tangent
was probably like.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
This is what happens when we don't record frequently. There's
too much to get out.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
So these posts claimed things like people being forced into
an underground bunker in a no man's land of sorts,
and they would be forced to play games to survive.
And in an age of true crime documentaries where we
kind of all are morbidly fascinated, you kind of believe
that something like that could happen. Weirder things have happened
(30:56):
in our world's history, So Nazis used to perform horrific
science experiments on Jewish twins, Like.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
We've covered some of those acrost.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Yeah, nut, I don't even remember if we've done that specifically,
But that's a whole separate thing. Things like that have
happened in our history. Weird, crazy shit has happened in
our history.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Think about like the further back you go, like you
have society, like the fucking people are Like how often
do you think about the Roman Empire? For me, it's never,
but like if you actually sit down and think about it,
becuse people always think about their technological advancements in their
society and blah blah blah blah. The fucking Colisseum one
of the oldest standing artifacts that people still travel from
all around the world to go visit was a place
you'd have athletes go into to fight to the fucking death,
(31:37):
and they were watched by tens of thousands of people
and everyone would cheer. That was normal, that was a
normal thing, and like, yeah, we've moved past that, but
it's just like we haven't gone that far in like
two three thousand years to the point where like, yeah,
we still have gladatorial combat, but like they wear their
helmets now and like they don't try and kill one another.
But it's like we're basically talking about the same thing,
(31:59):
just like a different incentive, which is money.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
So yeah, some theorized that maybe this was some demilitarized
zone between South and North Korea, like different people had
different theories for things. The creator of the show hasn't
come out and indicated any such thing was an inspiration
behind the show. He he hasn't said that there were
(32:23):
any other things other than those layoffs and stuff like that.
The factory, Yeah, the factory thing. So he did say, however,
that he was inspired by manga and anime, which I
think a lot of people are. I think movies like
Akuda really inspire a lot of filmmakers. And if you
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guys have yet to watch things like Akida, the Girls
introduced us to another which is so good. Another is
the one.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Where it's one of the best things I've ever seen.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
Yeah, that one was so stinking only.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Like twelve or thirteen episodes. Yeah, but it's like a
horror anime. Yeah, it's so fucking good.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Have you seen elfin Lied? I don't know if you've
seen nothing not. That one is also gory, but I
found it fascinating when I was younger.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
So you could do the show another as live action
and I would watch the thing. It wouldn't be fucked up,
like how so many animes are sucked up. You could
also do it as a series. It's like psychologically every
season is just the same premise over and over.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
How people do would be so awesome.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
I recommend anyone who likes anything morbid or horror movies
just go find a way to watch another and you
will be so fucking happy.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
Yeah, I mean it's anime.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
So if you don't like anim high your thing. In
a single night, Yeah, it was like four in the morning.
We're like keep going, like it doesn't matter if we're
tired tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
But yeah, if you haven't watched any of those outside
shows and you're just watching like Spyfam or or My Hero, Like,
there's other things out there, and once you start watching
those other things. It's like a whole other can of worms,
and you're gonna be like, I gotta keep going anyway,
I could see how he could get inspired by manga
(34:14):
like Alice in Borderland that are genuinely about playing violent
games and puzzles to survive. What many people are connecting
to the show are the events that occurred at Brother's Home. Now,
the director, the guy who made the show, doesn't say
that this was something that actually inspired him, but it's
(34:34):
it could be, you know. That's so Brother's Home is
the name of the place, not me telling you.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Yeah, I was like explained, so it's.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Not something that happened in his brother's house or something
like that. It's it's this institution. So in the nineteen
seventies and nineteen eighties there was a place called Brother's
Home that happened to be the site of some insane
human rights violations. And now again I'm I'm not saying
that it was the inspiration behind Squid Game. It's just
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something that's real similar. Which is why I said a
true story ish because it hasn't been outright stated this
is inspiration.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
There's often times where creators won't directly cite their true
source because they don't want too much to overlap for
either legal reasons or they don't want the blowback from
saying like, oh yeah, I'm inspired by this. Like Hunger
Games is a perfect example, because I think it's Suzanne Collins.
Like when it came out, so many people in that
moment were like, Oh, she's talking about like this is
what will happen if the liberals take over too much?
(35:35):
Oh man, and the other half was like, this is
what will happen if the Conservatives take over too much?
And she's like neither, Like she desrips with like that
is not what I was thinking about when I wrote this.
And I'm sure she had some idea in her mind
of what a fascist government would look like that separates
people based off of task, But like she refused to
endorse either one because she she knows she would split
(35:56):
her audience directly in half, Like half the people would
refuse to buy the fucking book after that. Wow, So
like they just straight up would you know, they'd be like, Oh,
she's insulting the thing I believe versus like Nope, nothing
like that, And then you can continue having everyone purchase it,
and then you know, turn into a movie franchise or whatever.
So I feel like in a lot of cases, creators
like he like he's doing here might not describe something
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if there's a level of controversy to it.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Yeah, I could see that. Well. Photos came out of
people in blue training suits and masks. A source I
read said that these pictures are actually from Brother's Home,
but I can't say for sure. I wasn't there. I
don't know, like I cannot, for the life of me
tell if these pictures are AI or not. I believe
(36:42):
I sent you a good number of photos that you
can post on Instagram later. But there's pictures of adults
and children and they're all walking together as a group
or eating in a dining hall together. But the BBC
Korea actually did a deep dive into this camp, if
you folks want to look more into it. They interviewed
(37:03):
a survivor of the camp who was reported to have
been taken in when he was only eight years old
in nineteen eighty four and when it was operating. Brothers Home,
located in Bussan, was advertising itself as a detention and
rehabilitation center for what they called vagrants, or as the
then law described them as beggars, gum sellers, or street
(37:27):
hustlers who without a fixed residence, harassed passers by by
begging or forcefully selling items. Very cold blooded description in
my opinion. Like what they actually took in were a
number of different types of people, including people that were
actually employed, because this description says they're like hustlers, you know,
(37:52):
but there were people that they took in that were
actually employed. There were orphans or children's that had been
briefly left unattended. Like it was just all these people
that they piled together that didn't necessarily meet the criteria.
And that's a hard one to believe, but you never
really know in situations like this one. Like, again, weirder
(38:15):
things have happened in our history, and it's estimated that
only ten percent of the prisoners were actually homeless.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
Police officers were said to be rewarded for sending people
to the camp and there weren't actually any checks that
were in place in this situation.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
So that's just the worst scenario you could ever imagine.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
Yeah, I think that's the downside to putting out something
like a reward for looking or hunting down a particular
type of person. Because you're just gonna get everything in everyone.
They just want the reward, and if there's no checks
in place.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
It's like a salesperson like, I just can relate this
to a game stop. No, I was gonna say, we're
gonna Solar City, slash Tesla whatever. I have an NDA,
so I can't say too much. But when you have
an incentive, which is like salespeople will be paid based
off how many panels they sell, that does not mean
they're going to sell you the appropriate system for your home.
(39:21):
They're going to sell you the most possible fucking panels
they ever could not saying that's what happened where I worked.
But in the solar industry, you often see any fucking
industry where you have salespeople incentivized based off of quantity,
means that's all they're going to push. So if you
have police officers who are incentivized off of just sending
people who are like undesirables or whatever to this place
(39:44):
where they're basically just going to be disappeared, and there's
no one checking to see what's going to happen, it's
just it's a scary.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
Premise, and stuff like that happens all the time, like
people get taken advantage of and just it's sad that
that is the world we live in.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
But well, this was the eighties, so right, you said,
this is an account from someone, yeah who went there
in the eighties. I'm guessing it's not still around.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
No, no, no, but like stuff like that still happens,
Like it might not be in this situation like this way,
but there are things that happened that we don't see daily,
that occurs behind the scenes. I I'm not a conspiracy
theorist by by any means.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
Are you always jump immediately to the most absurd conclusion.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
Anyway, So these people were only supposed to be kept
there for a year to be reformed, but in reality,
people would be kept way over that limit. They'd be
there for years. And it was reported that these individuals
that were sent to the Brother's home were forced to
live in dormitories where they lived and what could be
described as inhumane conditions. They would be physically and sexually abused.
(40:55):
Not all the guards had what could be called the
inmates' best interests at heart. People were just drop dead
each day because they they didn't care about taking care
of them. It's estimated that around five hundred and fifty
one people died there, but there may be many more
that weren't reported. This was more of a militaristic operation.
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There was no monetary reward for these people. There was
no real competition. It was kind of just likened to
asylums that we might have seen or had out here
in America. At one point just shoved all these people
together and this was all hidden. Despite the torture and
the forced labor. This place earned awards from whatever authorities
(41:41):
issue awards for supposed philanthropical work in this instance, but
they were like touted to being like, you know, great
people were issued numbers, which is crazy. I mean, where
have we heard that before? And I don't just mean
squid games. But despite a capacity of approximately five hundred
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based on documentation, there may have been thousands at the
same time at some point. Once the real story of
what was going on within the institution came to light
in nineteen eighty seven, the director only received a two
and a half year sentence. So once all that stuff
came out, the guy who was running everything got a
(42:25):
two and a half year sentence. And I would like
to point out that top who plays Thanos in the second.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
Season Okay, yeah, his name is Thanos in this.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
Show was given two years of mandatory military service and
ten months and a decade of being forced out of
the entertainment industry for using weed.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
Using weed is a weird phrase. I don't know, like
for ingesting THHC.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
Yeah, to self medicate. You know, it's very interesting that
this guy who had a bunch of people die under
his watch only got two and a half years. Oh yeah, Uh.
The only reason why the program was shut down was
because thirty inmates happened to escape and exposed the situation.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
That's fucking crazy.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
So a bunch of people escaped and were like, bro,
this is happening. Imagine if they'd never escaped. Imagine if
no one ever found out, Like, how long would it
have gone for?
Speaker 2 (43:22):
And this is I mean, this is a stupid question,
but I guess just because of the level of atrocity
that's being committed here, I need to check. This is
South Korea we're talking. Yeah, this isn't North Korea. Yeah,
this is some shit you'd expect to hear. It's in
North Korea. Okay, you're saying bison, Like I know, I know,
trained Bison. I couldn't tell you which Korea that took
place in, Okay.
Speaker 1 (43:39):
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, South Korea.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
Okay, that's horrific.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
Yeah, it's it's crazy that this this happened and I
had no idea it existed if I hadn't looked more
into you know, all this stuff. Again, not the actual
inspiration behind squid Game, but it's really if if it were,
I wouldn't be shocked, right, you know. Anyway, that's not
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necessarily again, the complete inspiration, but a mix so things
we can definitely point to that are similar and relate to,
Like season two, a lot of cryptocurrency issues resulting in debt,
gambling issues, people trying to make a quick buck. There
were a lot of real life issues, I mean, in
both seasons.
Speaker 2 (44:23):
But it's so interesting too in season two that there's
someone who is responsible for a rug pole, which is
what they're calling when you hype up a coin, people
dump their money into it, and then the people who
created the coin cash out, immediately tank the value of it,
and then the coin dies after that. Yeah, that's called
a rug pole. That's what the Hawk to a Girl did.
It's like something very real that happens and in Squid
(44:46):
Game season two, there's someone who's responsible for a rug
pull and the people he fucked over in the game
and they're they're stuck together, so they know, like, that's
the guy that fucked us over. So he's in debt
and there in debt because of him. Yeah, so it's
interesting to see this very new form of fraud being represented,
like in the season.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
Two Modern problems, Yeah, modern problems require modern solutions. Well, yes,
good game, that's the modern solution. So a lot of
things culminate in something that maybe we can all relate
to a little bit, or or maybe just you want
to get away from your actual real life and want
to see other people struggle, and so you watch a
good game. But like I watch it and I'm like,
(45:27):
my life could be a lot worse, you know, I
could be those people that are like I need to
kill someone to make money.
Speaker 2 (45:33):
I mean, gambling addiction two is a very serious thing,
and I'm lucky enough to never have really encountered it
in my life. I have friends that gamble, some of
them gamble a lot, but like, there are some people
who legitimately have a severe addiction to gambling, and I
feel like that drives a lot of people into debt,
especially in like the squad game universe, Yeah, which nowadays
(45:55):
is like so much easier to get tied up in
because you can just pick up your phone download five
or six gambling apps. The next thing you know, you've
blown your entire life savings.
Speaker 1 (46:04):
You know, I have had issues not with gambling.
Speaker 2 (46:10):
But like, you just spent all that money on the
squares for the Super Bowl. I can't believe you spent.
Speaker 1 (46:18):
No, I was thinking about crane games. I was to
playing crane games.
Speaker 2 (46:22):
There are so many plushies in this fight because of
her crane. They used to not they didn't send her
the things she won because it was like a cell
phone app crane game, right. They didn't just send her like, oh,
she won the one. No, they'd wait till like the
end of the month and send her all the ship.
She wanted a giant box, that's how addicted she was.
Speaker 1 (46:40):
Yeah, and so I don't anymore anybody want plushies. I
got a lot. Everything that happens in our lives inspires someone,
you know. I think that's that's with the all the
films and the things that we watch all the time,
all that inspiration comes from somewhere, like all the horror
movies that we watched, someone sit sat there and been like,
(47:03):
you know what this is what this reminds me of?
And then they write this horrific fucking movie.
Speaker 2 (47:08):
It's crazy to think that atrocities can be so so
horrible they could inspire someone to create a work of
fiction to show off how horrible an atrocity was. Yeah,
that's that's kind of bizarre to think about.
Speaker 1 (47:22):
But I mean, it doesn't have to be an atrocity.
I mean, look at at Fifty Shades and Twilight. Twilight
came out. Fifty Shades was like fan fiction.
Speaker 2 (47:32):
Thing, very different worlds that we're talking about here, But yeah,
fan fiction can be inspiration from a work of art.
Speaker 1 (47:38):
Yeah, oh, you think Twilight's a work of art?
Speaker 2 (47:40):
No, I was trying to be nice this fucking chick.
Was it today or yesterday? She leaned in close to me,
and I thought she was humming and singing sweetly because
I wasn't feeling well and she was humming the hoa
hoa ho a song to me from fucking Twilight, and
I was just like, I want so much more right now. Hey, hey, hey,
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so it passes for romance in this goddamn house.
Speaker 1 (48:06):
Uh, Twilight is a treasure anyway. Hope you guys thought
this stuff was interesting. I definitely did. I went down
a whole squid Games rabbit hole. It was fun and
I hope you guys if you've watched it, cool, hope
you enjoyed it. If you're not into that thing, I
get it, it's not everyone's cup of tea, but uh yeah,
(48:29):
thanks for sticking around for this tangent Field episode. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:32):
I had fun though, Like sometimes the topic is like, yeah,
we're Tangentine, but we're still staying pretty close to what
the main story is. So good episode, good job research.
Speaker 1 (48:42):
It's definitely for me. It was definitely like an eighty
D episode all over the place.
Speaker 2 (48:48):
There's just it's so hard to do research nowadays because
there's so much bullshit out there, like investigating anything. There
is just a mountain of AI generated nonsense from bullshit
click beta accounts. Yeah, and it's so frustrating to try
and dig into. So yeah, we'll see what our future
topics are gonna wind up being. But we have a
special guest coming on next episode with a special topic,
(49:11):
and I think it's I'm not going to actually say it.
I have an idea of what it's going to be,
so I'm excited to hear. Oh okay, yeah, but that said,
we'll say that for next time on Dragon Balls No
Scary Ish.
Speaker 1 (49:24):
I was like, what if we get in trouble for
saying something like you know anyway, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (49:29):
Yeah, that's everything we have for this episode.
Speaker 1 (49:32):
If you guys have a story you would like to
share with us about something that happened in your life
or your family that's like haunting's, true crime, stuff like that. Supernatural, yeah, supernatural, paranormal,
let us know. Send us your story at storytime scarish
dot com. We would love to share it with the
rest of the Spooky fam through our Storytime episodes. If
(49:54):
you haven't heard one of our Storytime episodes, there's a
bunch to go through to check it out. Why don't
you do the Patreon thing this time?
Speaker 2 (50:01):
Yeah, you can also hit us up on our social media,
don't forget about that, and then our website Scarish dot com,
or are in our socials Facebook dot com s last
Scarage Podcast, Twitter is at Scarish Podcast, Instagram is at
scarish Pod. I think I might have those backwards Twitter
is at scarish pod. Instagram is at scarish podcast. That
sounds right yeah. For Patreon, go to patreon dot com
slash Scarish podcast. Sign up for as little as a dollar.
(50:23):
You get ad free episode starting at a dollar. Also
early access which sometimes isn't that long. It can only
be a few hours, but you'll all always get it first,
and then the tiers go up and up and up
and up. The ten dollars tier is the gift tier,
which is Rob was talking about earlier, and then twenty
five dollars and above his shout out to hear so
we let you know at the beginning of every month
(50:43):
thank you so much like we did earlier, because it
really does me in the world to us that folks
out there would help us and support us financially. And
for those of you who can't support us financially or
just won't, fuck you. I'm kidding seriously, we really do
appreciate all the support that we still get over seven
years into this show. It's amazing to see and we
have had a lot easier time getting through life with
(51:04):
all the challenges it's face because we feel like we
can comfortably take time off from the show if we
need to to deal with work and death's in the
family and people being sick and all that sort of stuff.
Whereas the first five years of this show, where rain
or shine, death or not, you're going to have an
episode every fucking Tuesday, which in the grand scheme of things,
is a lot harder for us to achieve. And I'm
(51:25):
happy that we're at a place now where when things
are good, we can churn on episodes and when things
are rough we can step away for a little bit.
So thank you to the people that let us know
that we can take care of ourselves, because it really
did help us. But yeah, I think that's everything we have,
So Robin, I'll turn it back over to you to
sign us out.
Speaker 1 (51:43):
Keep on creeping on, and we'll talk to you guys later.
Speaker 2 (51:45):
A bye e
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