Bec Judd and Jessie Roberts // Transparency, transformations and tales from Vain-ish!!!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm forty two and I don't have a wrinkle. But
that's not normal. That's when you're not honest.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
It makes women look up to you and go, it's
so uncertainable. I'll never be like that's like, no, babe,
I had this, this, this, I photoshop that pimple out, okay,
and then they're like, oh.

Speaker 3 (00:15):
Busy and happy are not the same thing. We too,
rarely question what makes the heart seeing. We work, then
we rest, but rarely we play and often don't realize
there's more than one way. So this is a platform
to hear and explore the stories of those who found
lives they adore, the good, bad and ugly, the best
and worst day will bear all the facets of seizing

(00:37):
your Yeay. I'm Sarah Davidson or a spoonful of Sarah,
a lawyer turned funentrepreneur who swapped the suits and heels
to co found Matcha Maiden and Matcha Milk Bar.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
Cz Ya is a series.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
Of conversations on finding a life you love and exploring
the self doubt, challenge, joy.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
And fulfillment along the way. Welcome back, Lovely neighborhood.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
I'm not sure I even have words to describe our
episode this week, and you'll understand why. Within even the
first few minutes, the journey just to make it to
our first question is a wild ride, and the rest
of the episode goes on to be iconic, chaotic, eye opening,
thought provoking, totally unfiltered, and above all, one of the
most enjoyable yaps I've had in a long time. I'm

(01:22):
thrilled to have had the delightful duo Beck Judd and
Jesse Roberts in the studio to celebrate the launch of
their own trailblazing and already chart topping podcast, Vanish. As
two of the most flawless faces in the entire nation,
it's no surprise that they're both constantly bombarded with questions
about their beauty secrets, mostly from me. Let's be real,

(01:44):
and they are finally lifting the veil to get brutally
honest about the tricks, treatments and tails behind the scenes.
Of course, me being one of those rare species who
hasn't yet broken the seal on cosmetic conjectibles and the like.
I'll remind you all but nobody needs any of the
things discussed in this episode or on Vanish. And there
is such beauty to naturally aging, but at the same

(02:08):
time we are entering the let them era, and if
you're going to get something done anyway, or like me,
are on the curious cusp of experimenting. It has been
fascinating and empowering to hear them chat with experts and
leaders in each field on everything you might need to know.
I have been furiously taking notes. I personally also find

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it so refreshing and reassuring to hear others being completely
upfront about how as Beck and Jesse say, they didn't
wake up like this, so that you're never comparing yourself
to anybody without the full, honest picture. I've binged every
episode taking notes, as I said, and had so many
follow up questions that you will all get to benefit
from today. Of course, it wouldn't be an episode of

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CZA if we didn't also touch on their lesser known
path Ya's leading up to this point, and the side
of Beck and Jesse that you might not know so well.
While I feel absolutely comfortable calling Beck and national treasure,
I mean the red dress has a cultural identity of
its own in Australian history. I have always said, and
I'm excited to share what a truly down to earth,

(03:13):
barefoot perth girl. She is in person, and Jesse is
exactly the same. I love that veinish and this chat
kind of feel like being a fly on the wall
during an unhinged chat between bestI is somehow going from
k drama to salmon sperm injections to having twelve million
children between them. Every time I catch up with these two,
it is such a joy. I could have kept going
for hours. So there's so much we didn't get to cover,

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but I did love every minute of what we did,
and I hope you guys do too.

Speaker 4 (03:39):
Beck and Jesse, my tits in are in babo.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
Yeah, leave them out a little bit. You do have
great boobs. You do have great boobs. I was born
with them.

Speaker 4 (03:50):
Like you were born with gray born boobs, grape boobs,
and literally sucked the live life out of those.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
All you were doing was re stre oring nature how
I see it, doing things to their natural order.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
Just had a booby trick. This is a best start,
by the way, straight.

Speaker 5 (04:08):
Into great When I get really pissed, like I could
do tricks and I would pick up people's cigarettes with
your boobs, and I'm literally like in one and six
and the other stop, and I could wash from one into
the house the others like thunder or in.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
Between because of the sails a sag factor.

Speaker 4 (04:29):
Yes, because I had these amazing perky double d I.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
Was I'm just calling it, you know myself. They are
back and then.

Speaker 4 (04:43):
Just carry like objects around the house.

Speaker 3 (04:47):
Well, what an amazing beginning. If anyone needed a little taste,
you too, I.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
Feel like I've got it already and now together.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
So lovely to have you both, and thanks for having us.
I have literally binged every episode of Vanish and there's
only like six out or something, and I've heard a
lot of your voices. Congratulations. There's one hundred thousand downloads
in like three in a minute.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
Basically, we actually we're shot. Were shocked. How are you feeling.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
Good?

Speaker 1 (05:17):
I'm like, when do we get into a million? Yeah? Yeah,
hurry up. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (05:21):
The one thing about Beck and I is that when
someone's like, oh, you've got a hundred thousand downloads, We're like, yeah,
but we want more reach.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
Like we're so competitive with ourselves, like yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
Also, we don't really celebrate our wins, and I think
it's it's a bit of a personality kind of trait
of ours is you aim for something and then when
it happens, you go, oh, what's next?

Speaker 1 (05:43):
Yeah, And I wish I was more like, Hey, we
did this, let's go have margaer readers.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
Yeah, but it's this is cliche. It's about the journey
when we do get the result. And I've noticed this
in different parts of my life. When I get that success,
it's kind of.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
I feel fly because it's like, oh, what am I
going to do now? Wish I could enjoy it? Do
you enjoy it? Do you know what's really interesting?

Speaker 3 (06:06):
That's part of why I started this show and called
it CZA because I think I did spend like you know,
as a lawyer, and my whole definition of whether my
life was worthy or not was hitting goals. And it
was like, you want a promotion, you'd want to hit
your budget, but then you'd hit it and it was
so empty when you'd get there, and I was like, Fuck,

(06:27):
this is not how life goes Otherwise. That's the point
if you're just getting to the thing and then immediately
extending it so that like you.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
Never get there in the air, we do, we enjoy
that hundred thousand and three, how do we go?

Speaker 3 (06:44):
Who I really think it's about changing the metric that
you use to measure, so instead of being numbers orientated,
you change it to all you want is one woman
to write into you and say, look, guys, I didn't
know these sides of you. And it's made me feel
much more compon in my own skin. Or it's given
me permission to find that balance between addressing something I

(07:05):
wasn't confident about but also realizing, wow, I don't have
to be born with it and it's okay to be
a little bit vainish.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a good metric. Already more positive.
This is so much therapy has led me to this point.

Speaker 4 (07:25):
Yes, you know, we're very excited about vainish, Like it's
we we didn't expect, like to hit those numbers so quickly,
so we're very humble and grateful. We haven't actually gone
out and had like a drink together, and let's celebrate, like.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
We haven't even done that.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
No, you're already like, what's not trying to avoid more
drinking together? We have something on this weekend and I'm like,
I really don't want to hangover on this Sunday, but
I love the person who were celebrating and I really
want to go to this event. There's so many people
who are like, did you get invited to this? I
actually love it when i'm not, or when I've got

(08:00):
a really great excuse to not go to something like
oh it's Oscar's birthday. Sorry, it's like, yes, I don't
want to drink.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
I do want to, I just don't want the side effects. Yeah,
I also want to be invited. Yeah. Yeah, and I
want to be able to say no. I want a reason.

Speaker 4 (08:18):
My kids. I use my kids.

Speaker 3 (08:19):
Up.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
It's a great excuse.

Speaker 3 (08:22):
Great.

Speaker 4 (08:22):
Now, I literally got this morning going. I've got demons
about this weekend because you've just like had a massive
bousy weekend last actually midweek.

Speaker 3 (08:30):
Yeah, anyway, I mean I love This is already showing
why the show has done so well, and it's because
so many people. I mean, you're both household names. I
feel like Australia is in love with you both for
so many reasons. But they've seen aspects like the events,
they've seen the outside of a lot.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
Of what you do.

Speaker 3 (08:47):
But the show really shows who you are with your
best friend because it's you guys. Yeah hinge. But it's
like it takes a conversation between someone you're really close
with to show a certain side of you and no
one else has seen. And I think people are loving
seeing the bits of your stories that don't like obviously
the news don't care about you being a nice person

(09:07):
or having a laugh together. And it's been so delightful
to just be a fly on the wall between two
besties who have a decade of like just sharing life.

Speaker 1 (09:18):
And thank you. That is so kind. I was saying
on the way in.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
I was like, oh my god, imagine if someone had
a microphone on the car and we publish what we
actually say when there's not a mic.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
That's what you say with Mike. You just see, like Cy,
they're just going we're going.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
To dum.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
Just now. Jess's thing is Jess is fucking obsessed with
Korean men. You've gone down the wormhole.

Speaker 4 (09:54):
That I just can't get it.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
Do you know what I have been there?

Speaker 3 (09:58):
Korean? Right?

Speaker 1 (10:02):
What are you doing here?

Speaker 3 (10:05):
You should I should be in like idle school. Yeah,
I'm way too old. Firstly, way too tanned.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
No, you don't Australian. My chances, I get it.

Speaker 4 (10:17):
But I've been looking at because I'm so like heavily
into the kJ.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
Knows where they all live, she knows what she knows apartment.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
Really and you're going to you know, I have concerns
for Korea. I don't know how we ended up here.
This is I've got to question one. I think this
is what you guys are the best, because, like, my
greatest privilege on this show is getting to show a

(10:45):
side of people that they're not known for as much.
But the fact that you guys together are like little
school girls having the best time is so relatable and
just so much fun because on the outside it often
looks quite serious. But what I also think people skate
over is the life that you have before they meet you.
You've been through so many different parts and I don't
want to spend too much time because I want to
get to Vanish, but just a little bit reminding everyone

(11:07):
where you guys came from, because I think that's also
the story that makes you so much more human. It's like,
you're a Perth girl, senior.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
High Street High School.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
So we I grew up in Thornleigh, a daughter of
kiwis kiwe you're part Maury? Yeah, yeah, so mum's Maury.
So they moved out in the it would have been
the mining boom. I mean, there's always mining booms in Wa.
But it was late seventies early eighties. Mum was extremely young,
she was about sixteen seventeen. Dad was a few years older.

(11:38):
They came out and they had my sister and I
in the eighties grew up just playing so much netball.
Signed to Vivian's when I was sixteen. I was working
at Pizza Haven at the time and.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
My sister, Yeah, Haven the chesy crust.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
You're so good at making this. Sorry, unhired.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
Netball and I were at Pizza Haven and I finished
high school when I modeled overseas for a little bit,
went back to UNI, did a film and TV journalism degree.
Started that hated it, hated it. Did a speech pathology degree.
Finished my degree in Melbourne because I'd met my husband
at the time, he was playing for the West Coast Eagles,
and then he transferred to Carlton.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
Finished my degree.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
He ended up working at the Alfred on Trauma and
Eurosearch at the same time. Was doing a little bit
of media modeling on the side, Maya Channel nine, Paul
Ram Diamonds. I had my first baby, Oscar, and never
went back to my job, like I went on Matt
Lee from my speech pathology role at the Alfred and
then I just never went back.

Speaker 6 (12:38):
Because she had twelve thousand kids in five years and
then a fifth, Like you grew up with not a
lot working class parents who were minors worked at My
dad's just retired, but he's worked in mine's shift work
his whole life.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
His swing's always been four on, four off for like ever.
All of our family are in New Zealand. And yeah,
mom dad broke up when I was four. I had
a great step dad. We've got a great step mom.
But yeah, just a really normal upbringing.

Speaker 4 (13:12):
You know.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
We'd have one hundred dollars to do the groceries every week.
My sister and I would go with mum with the
trolley and we'd have a list. She literally had one
hundred dollar note and that was to feed the family
for the whole week. So we go and we'd like
pick out the specials and then when it came to
checking out, if anything was too expensive, we'd have to
take things out of the trolley.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
So it wasn't It was very different. She goes and
buys like a freaking lama. And this weird ship. And
then when it comes.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
To actually buying groceries, she's got no money, but she's
got she's got.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
A lot of stuff to Lama at home, like.

Speaker 5 (13:50):
All the parents are like watching me at Cole's going,
what's going on?

Speaker 1 (13:54):
Decline.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
I'll take the.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
Leans a lot. That's a need, not a want.

Speaker 3 (14:05):
I really think people forget that, like they the things
that people like I see you share on socials about
being privileged and blah blah.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
I don't know her.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
Yeah, proof obviously listened in post code and it's like,
you have no idea, you haven't bothered. Yeah, yeah, no,
but you like to make assumptions because maybe it makes
you feel better about yourself. But no one knows about
my family, about growing up, about what we had and
what we didn't have.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
We didn't have a lot, you know. All my school
uniforms were handed me down from my friend's older siblings.
But it was the best upbringing we didn't need. Looking
back now, we go, oh, god, we didn't really have much,
but you didn't have the time.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
You never know, right looking back, it was kind of like, wow,
it's very very different to what my children have now.
I think though, the first time anyone meets you, your
upbringing is what shines through first, Like you're so normal
and lovely and easy to chat to, and as soon
as you say Perth girl, it's.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
Like, ah, yeah, Perth girl is a top cheeks. I'm
going to say on to Perth people. Yeah, there's just
an easy going, casualness about them. It's like a no
wanka policy. True, it's true.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
But I think the other thing people often underestimate about
you in particular is that there was a whole chapter like,
let's just take a moment for Beck who was working
like with traumatic brain injuries at the Alfred, Like in
a medical context, you're literally a woman in stem like
that is where you came from, and.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
People forget and brain.

Speaker 3 (15:38):
I genuinely think that people like to skate over that chapter.
But when you look back, I love our industry and
I love everything we do, but I do sometimes find
the super intellectual side of my brain gets a little
bit like, oh I miss that side, or I feel
like I have to prove that it's there. Do you
look back and what do you think about that chapter?
Do you miss that sciencey part of you? Or do

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you feel like you want people to know.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
That I feel like I've always been a high achiever
and I always want to do stuff that hasn't been done,
So I feel like I can bring that part of
my brain into new projects.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
So when it comes to working with brands or creating
Vainish with Jess, it's how can we do this that's different.
We never follow, we always lead and make it better
than anything that's been done before.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
And I feel like that's where I bring my intellect. Yeah,
let's do this. Well, let's blow it up and let's
be like, wow, that's amazing.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
Like I'm not going to do anything unless it's a
ten out of ten, right, so we throw everything into it.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
What about your relationship over the years, and I've heard
you speak about it a couple of times with the
word wag, like that became your title. You moved to
Melbourne and you've gone from this humble, grounded, normal life
in Perth to coming here and then immediately that title
becomes attached to you. I actually I hate that, but
I also think there's kind of like power in underestimation,

(17:01):
and it almost feels like over the years your relationship
has gone from like feeling it as a negative to
like not giv me a fuck. Now, I just how
it was your relationship changed. I just could not care
less and I don't actually think I ever did. And
people would always kind of put the idea into your head.
You know you so much more than that, so you
kind of.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
Go with yeah, but looking back, like I always gave
zero fucks, Like it's just a label. I don't care,
there's so much more to me, and that I would
focus my energy on family work. I've always been so
busy that I'm not going to sit around contemplating, well are.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
People calling me a wag? Like, actually give zero shits?
And now I'm influence, which is like another you know,
seen as a negative thing, being an influence. I'm a
way that I'm an influencer. Does it actually change who
I am?

Speaker 7 (17:46):
No?

Speaker 2 (17:46):
Does it change the way I work or how people
see me? No, it's just a label. I honestly give
zero shits.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
Yeah, I love that.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
And I think that's also been something that's always shone
through that, Like you have such a thick skin for
that and a good head on your shoulders.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
They're like, why would I give the energy to get
limited enemy anyway? Bigger problems to deal blows up with
a ship popping off every half an hour, literally every day,
that I haven't got time to worry about labels.

Speaker 3 (18:17):
Yeah, okay, but speaking of different labels, Ruth tavetas.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
So.

Speaker 3 (18:26):
Before we move into Jess and then into Vanish, I
cannot go past the Red dress was such an icon.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
The iconic Yes, she's a designer, not just.

Speaker 3 (18:38):
A moment, an iconic moment in your trajectory. And we
have had discussions about like your fashion and wanting to
do a whole series on Bex Looks over the years,
but that was also iconic in Australian history, like the landscape.
Everyone knows the red dress moment. You say red dress moment,
everyone knows what we're talking about. But I know it
from you know, we know it from the outside. You

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went viral in that dress before social media existed, like
there was no virality and yet you still did it
from the inside.

Speaker 1 (19:07):
What was that like? Did you know it would go inside?
Did you have any idea?

Speaker 2 (19:20):
I was just a girl from Perth, you know, being
a West Australian when you're there sometimes you feel like
you're on another planet and you're not even attached to Australia.
We've just got our own thing going on over there.
So lots of people were wearing that style of dress
in Perth. Someone had worn it in black at a
formal event the weekend before and got.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
All this press.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
So and then I was seeing Ruth Tavitas and I said,
what have you got for the brown?

Speaker 1 (19:41):
And she goes, I've got this one.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
This person wore it in black class week, but I've
got it in red, and I was like.

Speaker 3 (19:47):
Cool, wait, the week before you were just like dress.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
My mom always says I look good in red because
I've got brown hair and brown eyes. You know there's brunettes.
I look good at red. That's kind of how it
came about.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
So when I went out onto the red carpet in
Melbourne Crown, it was so good, Like first experience with
my then boyfriend at Crown Towers in Melbourne, which is
like h it was so iconic and being at the
Brownlow and just walking onto the red carpet in this
red dress and the reaction on all the media there
and the crowd, and I was like, oh, weky, You've

(20:18):
come into Melbourne. Very I know it's cliche, but you know,
very classic dressing. Black sophisticated and there's this Perth girl,
very risky, but I'm just.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
There thinking, I'm just yeah, normal Perth. Check Instagram. Then no, no, actually,
but it went viral.

Speaker 4 (20:37):
Yeah, It's like, you know, you couldn't check to see
what the trends were.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
It was like in Perth that was the trends. So
you would Facebook.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
But also you look at the papers and you look
at the social you know, the social pages in the
papers when you see what everyone was wearing. And I
think what exacerbated the situation was that my boyfriend won
the Brown Law matter that night, and when he's through
to me and speech, and because I was Hollywood taped
in so my titties didn't fall out, he threw to
me and I went, I covered my boobs and kind

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of went.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
And then that was the moment.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
That everyone used in their press clippings the next day
with me covering my boobs in this red dress, laughing.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
My boyfriend just won the Brown Loom. We're at twenty
at the time, so I imagine the load of that.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
Well, we had to stay at Crown for the rest
of the week then, because Chris then had to go
in the Grand Final parade, and as the Brown Loan winner,
You've got a lot of media commitments that week leading
up to the AFL Grand Final, so we were meant
to go home to perthe like you got to stay now.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
So Chris goes to me, We've got to stay Crown
because I won. They're upgrading us. How good, liven.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
This is the best week of my life. I had
a store, it was a Cactus Jam at the time.
That will dress you for all your media events as we.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
Want getting dressed. I'm a Crown, this is a live and.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
I remember the next day Chris's manager, Paul Connors said
where are you? And I said, I'm just in the room.
I'm going to come down. I'm gonna go for a walk.
I'm gonna go Eaxport, Melbourne. He goes, and he goes.
There's every BLS media camera. It's down in the lobby
Crown waiting for you to get a photo of you.
You're on the front page of every paper. Darren Hinch's
on the phone wants to interview you for his show.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
And I just went, oh shit. And then I just
stayed in the suite and I didn't leave for like
four days. I don't know what to do, and then
people are calling saying I've spoken to your mum and
your dad and even baby photos, and then all of
a sudden, like, can we just shut this ship down?
I am not ready. That's what I thought it would
be nice giving your breath. I'm we just won't meet.
We weren't ready for the media onslaugh. Yeah, anyways, baptism

(22:38):
the fire and yeah, here we are. Do you remember it?
Did you have?

Speaker 7 (22:45):
So?

Speaker 6 (22:46):
Hang on?

Speaker 4 (22:46):
When you what how old were you when you did
that dress? You would have been twelve thirteen? Yeah, And
like I was in Queensland, so Queensland's not into AFL okay.

Speaker 3 (22:56):
So tell us about the beginnings of Jesse. Maybe this
is why you guys get on so well because you're
also Elpham girl moved to noose up so.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
Born in red working class. Yes, to work in class.

Speaker 3 (23:06):
And Queensland and Perth I think have that like outdoors down.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
You have to use your imagination.

Speaker 4 (23:13):
And I'm born in Melbourne and lived in Eltham and
I did primary school in Eltham. My dad is a builder,
so he was constantly renovating her house. And it's like
never marrying a builder because your house has never finished.
That was my upbringing. I never lived in a finished house.
You guys see like caravan caravan. Lived in a caravan
for a bit. I remember we had an outside toilet
for co steam out there.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
It got to the pot.

Speaker 4 (23:36):
We had no shower and the septic tank that was underground.
That is where you do all your toilet running and
your shower, like that big septic thing underground. It's so cold.
I would have to get up in the morning in
the middle of winter in Eltham, which is really hilly,
and it's like the foresty leafy and kangaroos and rabbits everywhere.
I used to have to get up in the morning

(23:56):
and have a cold plunge underground in a septic tank
before going to school. And I did that for weeks
and weeks weeks before we had a shower like outdoor
toilet for years.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
This is why you're so good with spiders.

Speaker 4 (24:09):
Yeah, I was constantly on wood piles picking Huntsman's.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
People need to know this. You guys are such down
to earth beginning.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
I think it's why we're so in tune with each other,
because we are just.

Speaker 1 (24:25):
Like back.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
In Bayside private schools with our kids just going.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
I never thought i'd get there, get here? What did
our mean to say? We humble them, let's be honest.

Speaker 4 (24:41):
So yeah, so Elsham and then I moved to Noosa
for high school with my family and I went to
Sunshine Beach High like we went to public schools.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
I went to a movie.

Speaker 4 (24:53):
Barbyland, but I went to Catholic school for primary and
then high school was just public. We couldn't afford private
schools or anything like that. And yeah, I was surfar.
I had the best upbringing. I was always outdoors, never indoors.
And yeah, I guess that's my.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
Child husband when you were still a child child were kids,
three kids by twenty six. Yeah, So then I tell
us how you met your husband? What was he doing?

Speaker 3 (25:22):
So?

Speaker 4 (25:22):
Yeah, I've lived in Queensland and I came to Melbourne.
I just recently broke up with my ex boyfriend and
I was staying at Bell's house because he used to
live in NUSA as well. But we never crossed paths
because there's such an age gap.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
And if we'd met, you would have been too, I
would have been met lily. So this weekend you ended
up a love machine.

Speaker 4 (25:44):
Yeah, like nineteen nineteen nineteen. I love Machine, Yeah nineteen,
I love Machine on Gay Night, Sunday night, Sunday night,
I love Machine. And when in and even though I
was staying at his place, he had come back from Vegas.
It was his birthday and he went straight from the
airport and he went through his parents and then he
went straight out and Will meeting him out at Love Machine.

(26:06):
But I didn't know what he looks like or anything.
So I wore with my girlfriends who were actually celebrating
Beale's birthday, but not knowing.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
What he looks like.

Speaker 4 (26:14):
Get to love Machine and there's this guy on a
podium dancing to Carl him Minog.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
And I'm like, where's my guy?

Speaker 4 (26:20):
No?

Speaker 3 (26:20):
Do you think it was because he wasnt a podium
man comfortable in his masculinity exactly.

Speaker 4 (26:30):
And then I came out of the bathroom and there
was like where the stairwell is? He was just standing
there and I was like, oh, you're to go from
the podium, jin Say. I just looked at him and
he just grabbed me and we kiss, no conversation, nothing,
and then I was to cool down Jess after I
kissed you, and he's like, I vowed and I was like,
I live in your house tonight.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
I'm actually staying a house for three days. And then no, no,
I was good. I didn't put out the first night. Guys.
I'm so proud of you because one night, one night, No,
we do clas classy girls. I think the Catholic in me,
and then you're pregnant. Stop it. So then I went

(27:19):
for three months literally, so yeah.

Speaker 4 (27:22):
One month later, in our will together, he asked my
parents if you could marry me. They said no, They're like, fuck.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
No, wed you two minutes ago, we.

Speaker 4 (27:32):
Don't know you, and can you just wait till she's
twenty one? And then he was so young, and then
he asked again, and every month he asked for like two,
three months, three months, he asked again. Every month they
kept saying no. They got to like the fourth month
and he's like, can I please marry Jordan and they're
like no, we've said this, wait till she's twenty one.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
And he's like she's pregnant and they're like, put her
on it now. So this literally the other thing.

Speaker 3 (27:58):
I don't think people know unless they followed you since
the modern mama, Like they don't know that you were
a mom at twenty one three by twenty six, but
then also had a dancing.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
Career, your a actress.

Speaker 3 (28:11):
Then you had this is not your first podcast, like
you had step wives, like you've done so.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
Many things and your best pool.

Speaker 3 (28:18):
Yeah, and you're literally like not only thirty five, Like
you're such a small child.

Speaker 1 (28:23):
Right now, which is this is a backstory that people
don't know am I.

Speaker 3 (28:33):
And I normally don't like spend so much time on it,
but I think it's so important to remind people that
where you guys came from. But it also makes sense
why you're such good friends because when you found each
other at you know, three year old kind to pick up,
it makes sense.

Speaker 4 (28:45):
That you're like as my girl, literally, and that's like,
looking back now, I was the girl at high school
that was they all thought Jess won't get married and
have children, be the last person. If she does, we'll
be in her forties because I was never a settler.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
But then it's like you found.

Speaker 4 (29:02):
Your Yeah, I found my person. But then also river
my first my first one was a full planned pregnancy.
So a lot of people think because you're twenty, it
was a mistake, but it was fully planned. Yeah, So
that was like I really want to have children. I
want to have him the next twelve months. And then
he's like, but I want to get married because I
don't want to get married first because that's such a process. Yeah,
and you know, I really want to have a baby
before I'm thirty two kind of thing. So then, yeah,

(29:24):
it was all planned pregnancy. And but it's the best.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
Teaway just met this guy. Yeah that's baby.

Speaker 8 (29:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
Yeah, Like that's also kind of special because I feel
like you've made it work.

Speaker 3 (29:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (29:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:34):
I think people sometimes think it doesn't look like the
pathway that it's supposed to, so therefore I should not
lean into it. But you were like, if it works, yeah,
exactly a beautiful marriage you guys had now other than
the Koreans.

Speaker 5 (29:46):
Yahmicide married like gorgeous, gorgeous.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
No, but that's I think.

Speaker 5 (29:52):
You know.

Speaker 4 (29:53):
Having a river is like, was the foundation of how
Beck and I met, you know, throughout three three year
old kinder with Oscar River the same age, and when
we met, it was like it was seen to my Yeah, and.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
You can hear that.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
I feel like one of the best parts of Vanished
so far is that it's two best friends who like you,
pull each other into line in different ways. But interesting,
you've never had a fight.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
We had one. We finally had a fight. Finally had
a fight.

Speaker 3 (30:20):
Yeah, yeah, okay, wait, we'll a point in that. Let's
start with the fact that now, I mean you have
four kids, Beck, you have three kids. Yes, you both
don't look like you're old enough to have children. I've
heard you say, Beck that you feel like your skin
is better at forty two than twenty two. When I
met you both in person, I think you see people again,
like you see people on the outside and you're like,

(30:41):
they are perfect, they are so immaculate and so stunting,
and you think it must all be editing. And then
you meet both in your real life and I was like, fuck.

Speaker 1 (30:48):
That's exactly what they look like. They're right back at Yeah,
it's Korean bay age.

Speaker 3 (30:57):
Literally don't but you've gone from a climate like we've
all been through it. We all kind of work in
the media where you fear getting papped at appointments because
no one would lift the veil on what it takes.
Like you say in the show, you don't wake up
like this, And it can be really sometimes de moralizing
for people who are like, how can I attain that
level of beauty, and then there's a stigma around being

(31:18):
a bit vain, even though we all are like I
sat here because I'm like, this is my side.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
I Am not sitting over there. I'm sorry girls, Yeah,
little vanish moments.

Speaker 3 (31:29):
Yeah, So what do you think has changed? Like you've
been so incredibly open on the show, whereas I don't
know if it would have been as easy for you.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
Like five minutes ago. I think do you feel is different?

Speaker 4 (31:41):
I think we're just we're older now and it really
is that no Fox error, Like we're kind of like
and that let them, you know that, let them like
if they're going to whatever they want to think about you.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
Yeah, let them. It doesn't bother It doesn't bother us.

Speaker 4 (31:54):
We've got too many kids to worry about somebody saying
that we're vain. Also having files and people constantly messaging
us going, you know, what do you do for your hair?
What do you do for your skin? Like what do
you do this? And it's like, I'm not going to
sit there and not tell you to pretend and pretend
or and you get to age. Everyone knows I don't sleep.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
Yeah, But I think also like social media has been
a big one because you're seeing lots of people just
be quite transparent on Instagram and TikTok, And then you've
got celebs leading the way with Chris Jenna outing her
plastic surgeon guy not outing like.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
Yeah, letting sharing share, Kylie Jenna talking about her job.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
So it's kind of been led by celebs, it's been
led by influencers. It's coincided at a time where twenty
twenty five is a year of transparency. We're also at
the age where I'm forty two and I don't have
a wrinkle, Like that's not normal.

Speaker 3 (32:52):
It's not.

Speaker 2 (32:55):
Jesus, but that's not normal because I get an anti
wrinkle injection. If I hadn't had had antiris injections as
a forty two year old, I'll.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
Be covered in inlands. And that's cool too.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
Some people are cool with that. I prefer it when
I don't have lines, but each to their own. And
it's about not gas slading women.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
And yeah, because before.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
People and there's still people who who do say no,
it's just because I wear a really good sunscreen. Still
very important, but it's say come on, stop bullshitting.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
I've seen you get some walk out of you know,
we are the.

Speaker 9 (33:28):
Same guy, because then it makes when you're not honest,
it makes women look up to you and go, it's
so unentertainable.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
I'll never be like that's like, no, babe, I had this, this, this, this,
I photoshop that pimple out okay, and then they're like, oh, okay,
thanks for being deliberate. It's actually it's liberating for us,
but it's also just being honest with women. And the
reaction from women has been thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
I feel more normal now.

Speaker 4 (34:00):
Yeah, we've actually had so much good comments, Like I
would have thought we would be trolled like crazy, and
we haven't had any so happy andful, you know, on
social media. I used to look at, you know, five
years ago, look at all these influences and go.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
Why I can't be like that?

Speaker 4 (34:17):
Why do like they've got all these children and they
still look so good and their bodies like this, and
their faces like this, and their hair And I used
to get gas lighted by it, and I was like, oh, wonderful.
And then I'm like, I'll go down the path with
like anti wrinkles and stuff like that, and I've gone
this amazing.

Speaker 3 (34:32):
I've been waiting for this podcast for a lot of years,
and I'm.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
Like, oh, I need to take those you know, you
need no notice.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
And I wanted to touch on that nobody needs anything, right,
like if you want to and don't go I want
to get an anti wrinkle injection. I want to go
get this treatment done because that person's had it done,
so I'm going to copy. It's not about that, it's
about like your own I wanted to no one needs anything.

(35:02):
No one needs anything if you want to get things
done for yourself. So it's not like the podcast is
not just about it's education on all the treatments and
procedures and you know, all the products and stuff that
are out there because it's such a flooded market.

Speaker 4 (35:15):
But then also de influencing, you know, that's really important
as well. Like I went and did the nasal tan spray,
which you know, even though I was wearing some block
and I would do it and it's like, you know,
just put it, you know, spraad up your nose and
then just do you know, activities in the sun for
twenty minutes, even with some block on. I found out
that it's actually not good for you. It's not an.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
Increase your risk of skin cancer. I loved that.

Speaker 2 (35:37):
So for us to talk about that with a dermatologist,
we had comments from people saying, you have completely de
influenced me. I was about to buy the turning nasal spray,
but because of your podcast, I'm.

Speaker 1 (35:46):
Not doing that anymore.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
So for Jess and I were like, how good is
this because we are helping yeah, listeners to make more
informed decisions and I not kind of risk their health,
not waste their money.

Speaker 1 (35:59):
It's really important.

Speaker 4 (36:01):
Yeah, So we're not influencing people to go get products
and procedures where just seeing more informed choices.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
Yeah, they're going to do it anyway. I think that's
the thing.

Speaker 3 (36:09):
If you found an area where you lack confidence, you
want to be empowered to know I'm going to get
it anyway. Yeah, I at least want to understand what
I'm getting into.

Speaker 1 (36:18):
What the risks are. Doesn't work, isn't marketing bs.

Speaker 3 (36:21):
Whereas if no one's talking about it, then you can't
know the risks or what to expect, or what a
good reaction is or a bad reaction. I love that
you guys are so open about it now. So a
couple of questions on the Vanish area throughout your life
so far? What has been your biggest vanish area? I
know it's your kneecaps at the moment.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
What are your areas?

Speaker 3 (36:43):
But kind of started off the insecurity, like we all
have it. It's and it's always something that other people
will go no, but it's like your internal confidence meter
is affected.

Speaker 1 (36:54):
Mine would be.

Speaker 4 (36:55):
It's funny. I was actually talking to Vell about it
last night. So when you do TV, when I do
get on the TV, my jaw swings to one side.

Speaker 1 (37:04):
And I was like, well, I've never noticed that. No one.

Speaker 4 (37:10):
I would never noticed that about you. But when I
watch myself on TV, I can see that my jaw
will swing to one side, and I'm like, why is
this happening? And fell when he's always told me this,
I always need to get reminded. I got a tooth
taken out way too young and there was never a
space to put into it when I was like three.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
Hours a dentist by the way, so he knows.

Speaker 4 (37:28):
And so what happens is is that my jaws not
properly developed in a certain area, so which will cause
the swinging. So I'm like, how do we fix that?
And he's like, well, we can do in visil line.
But because it's your jaw and you've, you know, for
thirty years, you're you're you know, your jaw has just
been constantly doing it. It might not work, but I'm
like so vain, I'm like, let's do in visil line.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
Let's fix it. See if we can fix it.

Speaker 4 (37:49):
You becaus it might actually probably won't work, but I'm like,
I have to just try because it affects your confidence.

Speaker 1 (37:56):
It affects my.

Speaker 4 (37:57):
Confidence on TV when I'm doing a piece of camera
and I can see it and it just goes and
no one else can see it, but I can see it.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
Yeah, And so we all have one it's really interesting
to hear what it is.

Speaker 4 (38:08):
And another one was like my girlfriend when I was
like maybe twenty five, maybe twenty yeah, twenty five, she
was like thirty two at the time. She's like, wait
to hit thirty. Your kneecaps starts to sag.

Speaker 1 (38:18):
Someone said it now you And I literally was.

Speaker 4 (38:22):
Just in the mirror one day and I was like
looking at my legs and that was always like my
best asset, like I always was greatly You.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
Do have to really did I do?

Speaker 4 (38:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (38:34):
And I've got that.

Speaker 4 (38:34):
That was the thing I used to get stopped all
the time.

Speaker 1 (38:38):
Nightclubs and they're like legs eleven.

Speaker 4 (38:40):
Literally, a guy or a girl would just be sitting there, going,
You've got really great legs.

Speaker 1 (38:44):
That was like my lege, and now you're like, oh,
my kneecaps are on the white house. I'm to go.
My caps are starting to sag.

Speaker 4 (38:51):
My girlfriend was right about it, so now I'm like
fixed and said it as well, probably just need.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
What's yours?

Speaker 2 (38:59):
Oh gosh, maybe skin. I used to have not great skin.
I used to get really bad blind pimples and I
went on a week because of TJ. We can't say
what it is, but I went on prescription medication for
a long time and I've always kind of been obsessed
with skin since then. So I got rid of the acne,

(39:21):
the blind pimples, and I just get so many like
Laser Genesis, fraxl medical grade skin care ever since.

Speaker 1 (39:30):
Like I'm really particular.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
If I get one pimple, it's like.

Speaker 4 (39:35):
It's do you pick it or do you just do
you squeeze them?

Speaker 2 (39:38):
Well, I feel like I'm a pimple expert now I
know which ones need to be extracted and which ones
will go away by themselvescause you're a.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
Picker like other people.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
I've always been skin and that's why I would hand
on heart say that my skin is better at forty
two than it was at twenty two. At twenty two
it was because it was pigments. But I get rid
of all my pigment, like any mark, any vask, guilla vein, so,
anything red, any sunspot, any freckle, it's any large poor
I will go in to the dermatologist and be like,

(40:10):
zapp it, get rid of it, give me medication for that,
give me like whatever.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
And I always got in and say she's like, what
do you want to do to make my skin look
like it's twelve? Yeah? I want to be you want
to be I want twelve year old skin? Yeah, we
all do. And Zappa any hair pull it out?

Speaker 5 (40:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (40:34):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (40:34):
So if you were on a desert island and you
could only take one treatment and one.

Speaker 4 (40:39):
Product, well, mine would be Andy wrinkle injections. That would
be my treatment, and then my product would be a lipliner.

Speaker 6 (40:49):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (40:50):
I think that's like so crucial, is so cool?

Speaker 4 (40:52):
I think so you seet a lot of cold saws
growing up, Yeah, like that cycle every month, every time
I got my pure i'ld get a cold saw. It
was just like my hormones all through high school. That's
why my guys didn't go near me walking and so
I had And then obviously with all the cold saw
and the cold saw scarring, I never had that that

(41:15):
the nice shape, the nice shaves, of all the scarring.
So I always wore lipliner. I was always the nineties
liip liliner look. Even through high school. If you go
through all my friends, I was always walking around the lipliner.

Speaker 3 (41:26):
You need to do an episode on the blush tattoo outline.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
I I want to get to get a cold saw
pre treat.

Speaker 1 (41:34):
I want to get filler on my lips, but I
can't get cold beck.

Speaker 3 (41:38):
If you were on a desert island, what would be
the treatment and product that you would take if you
could only take one?

Speaker 1 (41:43):
I want to be so boring. I'm exactly the same
as Jessup. This is why I would b FS. So
I would drink because that covers off on a lot
and you can shape and lift when done in the
right way. And then also I would take a lipliner
because I.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
Love overdrawing my lips. And if if I've taken the
anti wrinkle from the treatment, and you couldn't do filler.

Speaker 1 (42:08):
Then you can give.

Speaker 2 (42:08):
The perception of a big limp with an overdrawn lip.
So my tip is just find a lip liner that
is the same color as your kind of natural lip and.

Speaker 4 (42:20):
Just overdraw it and.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
Wild look amazing.

Speaker 4 (42:26):
Because we have two of the same things, we can
a fall.

Speaker 1 (42:29):
I think you could fall. You can split them because together, yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:34):
All right, well, okay, so if you took those when
we were sharing, I would do a laser genesis. Laser
genesis is poor minimizing every bedroom stimulating and poor minimizing.
You know that I want twel year old skin.

Speaker 1 (42:46):
And I would do a bronze for you to the
bronza genesis.

Speaker 3 (42:59):
I okay, this is like a kind of fast five
for each of you. First thing you tried, best thing
you've tried, worst thing you've tried.

Speaker 4 (43:06):
Okay, My first thing I tried was antierinkle injections. Best
thing I've ever tried. Oh, I can't say.

Speaker 3 (43:13):
It because it's just give it a generic description.

Speaker 4 (43:16):
It is a hyaluronic acid injection injection under the face,
in your face. That's probably the best thing I've tried
for me personally, I'm not saying people should go do it.

Speaker 1 (43:29):
That's for me.

Speaker 4 (43:30):
I've found really worked really nicely for me. It's the
best thing I've ever tried, and I'll continue on doing that.
And then the worst thing I ever tried was filler
in my cheeks.

Speaker 1 (43:40):
I did that back.

Speaker 7 (43:41):
There isn't great feedback about it, migrating and migrating and
a happy now when I was that in twenty nineteen,
I got my cheeks done and yeah, just hearing and
knowing more about it now, it's something that I wish
I didn't do, even though it's probably most of it's dissolved.

Speaker 4 (43:57):
It's never always gone migra in my grapes, so I
want to get it. I will get it dissolved in
some one point when I'm ready. But yeah, the first
thing I tried was a peel.

Speaker 1 (44:10):
Yeah, I was very young, and it was because I
went straight into the injections. I was young, and I
always had like that chin acne all the time of
pause and just a little bit spotty.

Speaker 2 (44:23):
So I didn't have a lot of money. I actually
had no money. I was a UNI student and with
a bit of modeling. Pizza Haven fragrance Sprang, David Jones
and Maya on the side.

Speaker 1 (44:33):
Like acid peel because they said it was really good
for your skin. So that was my first experience. The
best thing I've tried, I would say.

Speaker 2 (44:47):
Would be anti wrinkle and it is the reason why
I don't have a line on my face.

Speaker 1 (44:53):
I love that for me.

Speaker 2 (44:54):
I'm not recommending it for anybody.

Speaker 1 (44:57):
I just rarely love it for me. Personal story. I
like it. We're not saying you should get it. Yeah,
her personal experience, I love it.

Speaker 2 (45:09):
And the thing that is the worst thing I've ever done, well,
there's two like on what Jess said Philip, but specifically
under eye filler is horrendous and if you google, like
Jennifer Addison or Kylie Jenner under I feel it, you
will see images of where the filler migratees. It absorbs
moisture and ends up really puffy. So I went through

(45:30):
a stage where I'd smile and I'd have these two
huge filler puffs which I had to get dissolved. Then
when you dissolve them, you end up with really saggy
skin and hollowing and eyebags.

Speaker 1 (45:39):
And that was a journey that.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
Was two years of doing other treatments and procedures to
fix my under eye bags. And we're going to talk
about it on vainish, but it was. It was a busy,
and it's a thing that elder millennials like myself, where
you all were the.

Speaker 1 (45:54):
Kind of the guinea pigs and went well, or do
the under I feel like I didn't do it.

Speaker 2 (45:58):
And ten years on, she's a younger Lenny. Ten years on,
all you why, yes, we all, why is this under?
I feel it making us so puffy and it.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
Looks like ship And then we've had to go down
the dissolving and then all like, there's a chain of
events that happens after you get filler dissolved and it's
not pretty.

Speaker 4 (46:19):
Yeah, influenced because I said, Tobecca, I was like, I
really want to get like I'm stanish age and I
was wearing glasses all the time, so I was getting
that didn't there and getting quite hollow. And I said, Tocca,
I think I might get piller underneath my eyes and
she's like, no, no, no, don't do it.

Speaker 3 (46:37):
I was like why, she's so, you're putting your body
on the line.

Speaker 4 (46:41):
And when everyone was kind of getting it done, I
didn't need it then and then but now I'm like,
it's just a top.

Speaker 1 (46:48):
Don't get it.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
But that's not the worst thing. A type of tightening laser.
Oh yes, And Jess has had this as well. And
I had on my forehead and it damaged a nerve
like like sizzle, the nerve sizzle. Afterwards, when I touched
my forehead, I felt a tap tap tap on the

(47:11):
back of my head.

Speaker 4 (47:11):
I did as well, Right, So this is this is
a this is a you don't.

Speaker 1 (47:15):
Get a prescription for it. This is just a run
of the mill. You go and get this tightening laser
at a clinic.

Speaker 2 (47:22):
And I went and saw a doctor about it afterwards,
and I said, why am I touching here and I'm
feeling tap tap tap on the back of my head
and he said, you've got nerve damage and you're luck
you didn't sever that nerve with that tree. So that
scared the shit out of me. And I think, just
when you're going in and you're getting things done, you've
got to be so careful because to get nerve damage

(47:43):
from a tightening device is not okay. And I feel
like these things need to be more heavily regulated. So
I am here Jess is here to tell the listeners
to really ask the right questions and see if you
are a good candidate for these types of things. Because
it took probably took four to six weeks for the

(48:04):
tap to go away.

Speaker 1 (48:06):
Bass.

Speaker 4 (48:06):
You're on the boat in a cheeker and I'm getting
this tapping me. I'm like, that's so weird because I
just run my finger across my forehead.

Speaker 1 (48:13):
And you've gone and the same tree.

Speaker 3 (48:17):
So what about you mentioned hereditarily, I know your most
common question is your nose and real and I know.

Speaker 1 (48:25):
But that's the thing you get asked about.

Speaker 2 (48:27):
The Yeah, because I'm so Mum's Maury moldy OSSI say, Maori,
I was actually one of.

Speaker 3 (48:35):
My dear friends Catherine and Justine. I have to say
maldy because they'll be like, did you say Maury.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
Had moldy? Moldy moldy.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
It's how you actually say it. You got to roll
the r. I don't get me almost like you know,
like moldy cheese. It's almost like moldy roll the are
So I've got my dad's nose, but my mom's coloring
and I've got such a small nose, so people always
just assume yeah, they do, you know stuff, it's so small,
but guess what some noses it makes really small noses.

Speaker 4 (49:06):
Look at all the children.

Speaker 1 (49:09):
Doesn't But yeah, what do you get us the most about?
Like that is hereditary?

Speaker 4 (49:13):
Well recently just came across the article they said my
nose was done and I had enhancements, and I was like, no,
this is actually my real nose.

Speaker 3 (49:21):
Well, okay, so hereditary noses.

Speaker 4 (49:22):
But contouring all that sort of stuff. You know, it's
amazing what you can do with makeup.

Speaker 1 (49:28):
Yeah, the last couple of questions.

Speaker 3 (49:29):
So I meant to ask this at the start, but
looking through your history, you guys have lots of beautiful
occasions to get dressed up. And from a Vanish perspective,
is there a moment in time where you've looked back
and felt your most like your vanity has been satisfied
and you're like, I was shit hot? Like what is
your favorite look being?

Speaker 1 (49:49):
I think my.

Speaker 4 (49:50):
Favorite look actually would have been Glamor on the Greed
this year, that custom dress that I got done.

Speaker 1 (49:55):
Oh yeah you are you had your hair up? Okay?

Speaker 4 (49:57):
Yeah, I think Glamor on the Greed this Year was
probably my best book that I've done I think because
I had so many compliments in my dress. It's the
custom Yeah, you looked dress, and I think it's the
first custom dress I've ever worn, so really.

Speaker 3 (50:10):
Yeah, and I was kind of like effects like I
had eighty five.

Speaker 1 (50:13):
Yeah, so that was cool.

Speaker 2 (50:15):
You looked your hair, Yeah, make up everything about you.

Speaker 4 (50:20):
That's my favorite look.

Speaker 1 (50:21):
Success with you?

Speaker 7 (50:22):
What about your book?

Speaker 1 (50:23):
There's been so many females. I've been very privileged, very
very to work.

Speaker 2 (50:27):
With Chaiton who like my besties and insane. It's been
a lot. I even like, do you know what I loved?
They made me an orange outfit for Coachella a few
years ago.

Speaker 1 (50:38):
That was hot? Right was the building? That was hot? Cowboy? Yeah,
that was do you.

Speaker 3 (50:46):
Know what I loved?

Speaker 1 (50:47):
It's really old.

Speaker 3 (50:47):
I think it's twenty thirteen. The white with the it
was a brownlow dress with the black. That was the
first one they dressed me really started and it was
just like no one had seen and it was as
jersey with a custom leather. But that was I would

(51:09):
I would what size for her?

Speaker 1 (51:13):
Yeah, I'll go there, I think because it was so
different as well.

Speaker 4 (51:16):
That was my favorite look I loved for you would
have probably been. You're wearing this like it was your
time purple.

Speaker 1 (51:23):
The purple dress, the dress I like people and the
buttons and the details and the lace and their hair. Half. Yeah,
it was very Prince Disney Princess. I loved that look.

Speaker 3 (51:34):
I think that was like a Okay, what about your
most cringe that you look back? And I actually screened
and know where my phone is. But one that I
was like, that's the least beck Jard look that Bejard
has ever done.

Speaker 1 (51:47):
Do you know what you had? A quiff?

Speaker 4 (51:49):
This is the look that you did for the It looked.

Speaker 3 (51:52):
Like a Korean harmbug. Actually, do you know what I'm
talking about?

Speaker 2 (51:56):
There was a time where certain clients and sponsors where
I had to wes and do certain things and I.

Speaker 1 (52:02):
Was like, I reckon, you would have had an intervention.
She just gave me this racing photo one day and
she was like, what the hell am I? That was
stylus choice choice that.

Speaker 3 (52:13):
Was there been anything that you chose where you were like,
what was I wearing?

Speaker 1 (52:19):
Like? Nothing that I chose. I'm just too good.

Speaker 3 (52:22):
The last two questions what do you love most about
each other? And then the very last one is in Australia,
You guys are genuinely like the joint queens of this country.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
We hang on g your every word something to put
genuinely like, we hang on to your every word.

Speaker 3 (52:50):
And that's why veins she's so exciting because people have
been asking for I mean I've literally been subtly asking back.

Speaker 1 (52:55):
You know, look at you. You need nothing, got imagine
tell me what you've done? You need nothing?

Speaker 3 (53:03):
But who is your beck Judd and Jesse Roberts.

Speaker 1 (53:07):
Like, who are the average Australian to you, guys?

Speaker 3 (53:10):
What is your person that you would be like if
you got them on the podcast as a guest, you
would absolutely froth it.

Speaker 4 (53:17):
Mine would be Christian Aguilera because she's what forty seven
forty six. I just want to know what.

Speaker 1 (53:27):
She's had to watch, do you know what? In terms
of if we're going down that like the Vinish, if
we could have a guess, this doesn't mean that there
I aspire to be this person or they inspire me
the most heaps of people in different categories and industries
that inspire me for different reasons. But in terms of
I just want to know what these chicks had done,

(53:48):
because she looks fucking insane. Is Lindsay Lollan? Why Liz.

Speaker 3 (53:56):
She is reversed aged like by twenty five years.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
The main thing, the main thing is she's sober, right,
she's a mom. She's sober, she's looking after herself and
that I know, this is this is.

Speaker 1 (54:10):
You got you eat all of that? Like it's like,
it's she looks so insie And I just wanted to like,
is a face up? You just tune your photos so much?

Speaker 2 (54:21):
She's she's had Anne Hathaway, Like, do you think Christina
and Lindsay have the same surgeon?

Speaker 1 (54:29):
And and okay stop, she's amazing love hair on the
podcast too.

Speaker 4 (54:39):
Yeah, I think Chris Aguilera Lindsay Lahan and takes the older.

Speaker 8 (54:44):
Yeah, she's fifty and it's like she's she's I don't know,
she's everything.

Speaker 3 (54:55):
Massive lesbian with some Korean dudes.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
Pretty one last question that did just pop up.

Speaker 3 (55:05):
You both have daughters, and I think they're what you've
done really well so far. Listening as someone who hasn't
dabbled yet, but he is very close to finishing breastfeeding,
and I am like straight in with the notes from
Vanish told me this, How do you draw the line
of enhance what makes you more confident, because that is
people are They shine from within when they feel more

(55:27):
confident about themselves, and that looks different for everyone versus
wait until you can internally work on your confidence in
other ways as well. Because there's so many sides to
being a bit vanish.

Speaker 2 (55:39):
I think with daughters and with kids in general, is
you need to make sure that you raise them where
they know that their self worth is not based on
their appearance. So just because your mum's ere, you know,
giving herself a quick putting on her red lips, maybe
getting an anti wrink or getting a spray town and
widening her teeth, it's part of maybe what she does

(56:03):
to feel confident, But you need to educate your kids
that it doesn't contribute to their self worth. So I
feel like when your kids have a very strong sense
of their self worth and it's not attached to how
they look, then it's up to them when they become
a certain age what they want to do. But I
think that's really important is making sure, especially your daughters,

(56:25):
that their self worth is not attached to their outward appearance.

Speaker 1 (56:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (56:30):
Yeah, And I think also like being transparent with your children,
especially like with a daughter that's nearly fourteen and she's
on socials. You know, she's like, why this girl's nose
is so amazing to do, and it's like, no, it's fake, darling.

Speaker 1 (56:43):
Like I think you're.

Speaker 3 (56:46):
Both actually paving the way for a future for them
to grow up in where they're not thinking everyone just.

Speaker 1 (56:50):
Looks like.

Speaker 2 (56:52):
With them. Yeah, even like they'll be watching a music video,
Billy will say, oh, how does she look like that?
And Doubt's like They'm like, do you know what tan bleach, teeth,
hair extensions, probably a boob job, probably a filter on
the camera.

Speaker 1 (57:06):
Three hours three.

Speaker 2 (57:07):
Hours of Yeah, it's just and then photos of celebrities
or influencers as well, and.

Speaker 1 (57:14):
They're looking like, yeah, let's probably face that face June.

Speaker 2 (57:17):
And so I'm very very We've got like a no
lying policy in our house. Even like when my kids
were really young and they're like, hey, mom, how come
like there's.

Speaker 1 (57:28):
I don't know what's this? There'll be a tampon, yeah, right,
and it's like my seven year old son's asking me, like,
what's this in your hair? Would have but I think

(57:49):
I always just give a very.

Speaker 2 (57:51):
Medical, scientific, biological I'm always very transparent and and I
know Jesse's as well, and we never want to fib
to our kids.

Speaker 1 (57:59):
So I would always say to Billy, I'm like, yeah,
she looks like that's face app a tan, probably a
boob job, it's probably surgery. So they just know from
the get go that nothing that it's not naturally it's
not yeah.

Speaker 5 (58:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (58:13):
And I think the other thing is as well, our
children they see us in our is ishous moments, so
that the is you know, they see us like all
deld up and they've seen us in the most isious states,
so it's kind of the raccoon hair a river has
seen and scarlet they've seen beconer ish. Billy seen me

(58:33):
and my.

Speaker 1 (58:34):
We're usually in our ish.

Speaker 2 (58:35):
Would be nice, I would say like, actually we are
ninety ish temp sent vein. Yeah, and that the going in.

Speaker 1 (58:46):
You see the temper.

Speaker 2 (58:47):
You put the ten percent on Instagram, but ninety percent
of the time were in pajamas, ug boots, I mean
active were This is like my uniform. I go, I
drop off and Jest does the kids every morning in
wearing pajamas.

Speaker 5 (59:03):
Hair.

Speaker 1 (59:05):
Kids see us usually in the Ish, and then every
now and again when we do dress up and go
to an event. The girls are like oh, and they're
like look at Yeah, I've put on fake eyelashes and
what's with your lips?

Speaker 6 (59:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (59:18):
Really really off you may Yeah, I book Chantel Baker,
so she did a full contour, and you've got my
nails done.

Speaker 2 (59:25):
I've got more jewels, and we've like super tan, we've
used the spray tan. So it's just about being really honest.

Speaker 4 (59:30):
So the girls know that being transparent with them is
so important. And yeah, an especially the word on social
media where everyone a lot of people aren't transparent and
your kids will go, yeah, why don't I look like that?
Why is it they're asking questions? I think just talking
to them and open, yeah, like saying we didn't well
you know exactly how I woke up like it was.

Speaker 1 (59:50):
Not like transformed.

Speaker 3 (59:54):
Well, I think that is why you guys are doing
such an incredible job, because you are painstakingly getting experts
on and running everything through the right processes and doing
it so responsibly. So congratulations on everything. Thank you so
much for having.

Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
That was fun.

Speaker 3 (01:00:11):
That was soad well I promised you chaos laughs, and
the procedures you'd need to take to a desert island
and these two legends absolutely delivered. This one has been
a long time coming, and it ended up going for
over an hour and a half, which was so.

Speaker 1 (01:00:25):
Hard to cut down.

Speaker 3 (01:00:26):
But I enjoyed every single moment and I hope you
guys did too. As always, please do share if you
liked listening to the episode, tagging at Beth Judd and
at Jesse Roberts x or at Vanish Podcast to support
these beauties their brand new show and thank them for
their time and honesty. I hope you guys enjoyed this
hilarious chat as much as I did. And if you

(01:00:48):
want more but haven't already tuned into Vanish, I have
linked in the show notes for you directly. There are
actually a few new episodes out since we first recorded,
so head on over to have a listen. In the meantime,
I hope you're having a wonderful week and are seizing
your ya h

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