What if “growing up” isn’t something we outgrow, but a process leaders and organizations must intentionally shape?
In this episode, Chris and Mark challenge modern assumptions about adolescence, psychological safety, and leadership development. They unpack why ancient identity rituals mattered, what happens when “being” and “doing” get conflated, and how real impact is more than just making people feel safe. You’ll learn why creating space is only half the equation and why high-performance cultures demand more than comfort.
You’ll hear:
Why adolescence is a social invention (and what it means for your team)
The hidden risks of overvaluing psychological safety
How to separate “who you are” from “what you do”
Why leadership means finishing the job, not just starting the conversation
The real formula for impact: right motive + right action
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
My Favorite Murder is a true crime comedy podcast hosted by Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark. Each week, Karen and Georgia share compelling true crimes and hometown stories from friends and listeners. Since MFM launched in January of 2016, Karen and Georgia have shared their lifelong interest in true crime and have covered stories of infamous serial killers like the Night Stalker, mysterious cold cases, captivating cults, incredible survivor stories and important events from history like the Tulsa race massacre of 1921. My Favorite Murder is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including historic true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include Buried Bones with Kate Winkler Dawson and Paul Holes, That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.
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