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June 12, 2025 15 mins

In this episode of #AskGus, Gus opens up about the May brothers and what Taylan’s signing means for the Tigers' future. He dives deep into the Warriors’ rise as a powerhouse club and why their success story is just beginning. Plus, who picks the roommates on tour? Gus shares one of rugby league’s funniest rooming mishaps involving Tommy Raudonikis and Steve Mortimer. Proudly brought to you by TAB.

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
Big Tree Matt is a big Tigers fan, Gus, and
he wants to know what you think of Tailor May's signing. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
Look, I know the May Boys pretty well. They were
very young at the time, probably had more to do
with Tyrant than the other two boys. But I've certainly
met them a number of times since I know the family,
I know the history of the family, so I've got
something of a soft spot for all of them. And

(00:47):
i think in a lot of respects they're misunderstood and misread,
and you know, people can to form their opinion on
these players and the way they carry themselves and that themselves.
I've always found them to be very honor east and
sincere players, very loyal sort of players. I know They've
had their trials and tribulations over the years. I think

(01:09):
the May Boys need their rugby league. I think it's
an important part of their life and i think without
it they would you know. I think they would struggle
without their football. They've also had a desire to play
together in the same club. They all were at Panthers
when they were young, but circumstances have seen that they've

(01:30):
all been split up over the years and there's been
a desire for them to get back and play for
the one club. Terrell is now with the Tigers. I'm
sure if Taylor, I was sure that if he was
given the opportunity, Taylor would have liked to have gone
to the Tigers again. Now which has happened, and if
they go well, I can see where Tyrone may even

(01:52):
come back and play for them in the future as well.
He's over there in Whole k Are at the moment
and going really good in the English Super League. Look
deep down, their good kids. I can understand how people
may feel about different things and things that have happened
in their history, and I'm pretty much up to speed
with all of it. And I think it's good for

(02:15):
Tailor that he's got another opportunity and I hope he
makes the most of it. And I hope the made
boys finish off their careers and all goes well for them.
I really do, And I hope the one day they're
all playing together, which is their desire, which will be
good for their family and in all other aspects. I'm
trying to answer this without giving too much away, but

(02:37):
also in support of the boys at the same time
understanding how public opinion may vary with that because of
the way things.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
Get reported or.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
The troubles that they've had in their own lives outside
of football. So but you've seen what Terrell's done for
the Tigers. He's a tremendous footballer, so to Tailor, Talan's
a terrific footballer, and it's unfortunate what's happened to his
career through injury and other circumstances. So I think he's
a great signing for the West Tigers if he can
get back to his best. And more importantly, I havee

(03:13):
that football is good for Tailor for the rest of
his career as well and sets him up for the
rest of his life. And then maybe the three brothers
will be reunited at some stage down in the future,
but that's up with the Tigers, and that's in the
lap of the gods, to be honest. But yeah, I
think for West Tigers they should embrace him, and I

(03:34):
think they should trust him and trust the club and
trust the management on the decision they've made that have
done their due diligence. They have got to meet him
and understand a little bit more about him and his family,
and I think it's great that they've given him an
opportunity and Rugby League can do that and hopefully Tailor
makes the best of it.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
Okay, Hamish wants to know Gus. The Warrior have been
playing particularly well. Better than that, what do you think
has been the biggest contributor to their success?

Speaker 1 (04:07):
Well, a couple of factors. Time together and the Warriors
have been on a mission. Out of the last three
four years. I had the good fortune to do a
little bit of work with the Warriors back was during
the COVID period when they're over here based in Australia,
based in Tamworth, are based in Redcliffe, they're based at
the Central Coast and they're all living away from home
with their families, and they went through a really trying

(04:29):
period there for a while, and I think that that
time has sort of galvanized the club and said it
on a course, I think their owner, Mark Robinson is
an exceptional human being. An exceptionally successful businessman who's taken
on buying the Warriors and restructuring the Warriors and giving

(04:51):
it a character and a personality of his own. And
I think one of the things we we set about
doing it those stages, in the early stages were setting
up pathways programs for them get them back in the
junior rep competitions Here in Australia. The NRL came to
the party by paying the airfares so that they could
get themselves involved in the Harold Matt's Competition, the SG Board,

(05:14):
the Jersey Fleg and the New South Wales Cup, and
I think that was vital to the development of the
Warriors club and bringing them forward. And they're doing extremely
well in those competitions. I think they've won a couple
of comps in those areas and could win a couple more.
They're leading the New South Wales Cup by a long way,
not only as their first grade going side going really well,
but the New South Wales Cup sides leading the competition.

(05:36):
It's a very very strong side. And we're seeing the
emergence of a number of players that have come out
of that Pathways program and the development they're doing there
there are so many talented young kids over there in
New Zealand, and most of the leading New so NRL
clubs here in Australia have got academy programs over there
in New Zealand. There's plenty of talent there and the
Warriors have really got their act together in that regard,

(05:58):
and we're starting to see that with some fellows that
before this year were probably unknown are coming in and
showing just how talented they are. They've also recruited really well.
You know, some of the some of the buyers they've
made have been very strategic and they've also released some
players and that's proven to be wise choices as well.
And I think the other factor is probably the recruitment,

(06:20):
fortunately of James Fisher Harris, who's come from a full
time premiership winning club. Are very very proud kiw and
you know, from what I understand, he's taken his work
ethic and he's professionalism and the value of being in
the premiership winning player to the Warriors and given them
new direction. You know, Mitch Barnett the other night, he
once a yew whiz. He's out for the season, but

(06:42):
they brought some kids in and just they just ran
rough shot over the Sharks, didn't they It's way too
good for them. So now it's it's a team on
the rise, and it's only it's only going to get better.
The scary part about the Warriors, this is only the start.
This honestly is only the start. You know, whatever they
do this year, they're going to be a better team
in the next two or three years. This same squad,

(07:03):
even if they just keep this squad together. He's an
exceptional blog. Mark Robinson, the owner and the CEO Cameron
George is one of the smartest in the game, really
really smart operator. It's just those two blocks. There's no
board of directors, there's no you know, they're not set
up like they are in Australia. It's privately owned by
Mark Robinson. His father actually sponsored the New Zealand Kiwei.

(07:26):
He's back in the seventies and eighties. He had a
company called aw Tex, which was a textile carpitile company
and I went over to the New Zealand New Zealand
Rugby League there at one time there when I did
get across the New Zealand and went to the museum
and there's a whole room on the or tech room,
which was dedicated to his father's time in sponsoring the

(07:51):
the New Zealand Kiwei's the national team for a number
of years and it's a rugby league family there in
New Zealand. They've always been in rugby league. Mark Robinson,
the owner, played as a young fellow, pretty wild sort
of fellow wild kid, very successful in business. He worked
for his father in the textile business and has built
a tremendous business of his own, very very successful. When

(08:14):
you go and look at his workplace and the culture
and the people and the relationship he has with him there.
He's just brought that expertise and how he's built his
business there across to the Warriors and given to the
professionalism and a family type feel and he's reaping the
rewards from it. He's a very very successful black and
Cameron George is a very very smart operator, very very

(08:36):
good operator. And the Warriors are in great hands and
they're going to be a force for a long period
of time because Mark's in it for the Mark's a winner,
Mark's in it for the long haul. He's I had
the very good fortune then when we were over in
Vegas earlier this year the Warriors were playing the Raiders
and on the Wednesday night before the game, Mark and

(08:57):
Cameron invited me to a staff function. They have a
staff function at the Blajio Hotel. They're just a dinner
for all their staff and their partners and they brought
some key sponsors across the course and they charted their
own plane from New Zealand to come across. And I
suppose he was about fifty or sixty people there at
a dinner and Mark got up and spoke and he
was quite he was quite emphatic. He said, the Warriors

(09:18):
will be winning the premiership this year, and you know
he was really confident about it. But that's the confidence
he exudes. That's just what he is. He's a real
winner as a bloke in his life and his business.
He's a very very successful businessman. But you only need
to look at the way he's staff and the people
that are loyal to him in his business to understand

(09:40):
what sort of person he is and how that's carried
over into the Warriors and how they speak about him there.
He's a special human being. The owner, Mark Robinson, and
there's no there was never any doubt that the Warriors
were going to be a success eventually. And they are
now and they're only going to get better. You are
seeing the tip of the iceberg. For years and year
and years we've been saying the Warriors should be a juggernaut.

(10:02):
Well strap yourself in, baby, because it's coming. And it's
whatever they do this year, and they could easily win
the competition this year. Whatever they do this year, they're
going to be better in years to come. It's very
very exciting for the game. I think you know, the
year that the Warriors can win a competition, it's going
to be great for the National Rugby League. It's going
to be great for our code. And I know that's

(10:25):
his sole mission at the moment. His father passed away
some years ago, and before he passed away, he said
to Mark, you've got to promise me one thing. He said,
what's that? He said, don't ever buy the New Zealand
the Warriors. Don't ever buy the Warriors. Mark said, I
promise I won't. He did.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
I went.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
I went to his sixtieth birthday party across that he
told the story. He said, yeah, my dad said, don't
ever buy the Warriors. Because I think that asked a
few times and he said, Okay, of course now he did.
He loves it.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
He loves it. Mark absolutely scared him to a title.
And they're not too distant future, they're going enormous stiff.
With a two pronged question, who decides which players room together?
Is it the players or the coaches or some other system?
And secondly, do you have any funny roommate stories?

Speaker 1 (11:22):
No, no, I will Usually the coaches try to. I
think the coaches do to coaches, and management will do that.
You know, and that goes back way back, even into
my time. I mean I was always roomed with the Troublemaker.
It was going to be the most difficult on tour.
I had to look after him. Special call out to
Mark Bugden, but it's Mark Bugden was my roomy on

(11:43):
a number of trips. It was my responsibility to get
him home and get him where he needed to be,
which was a handful. But yeah, usually management will have
strategy for that, particularly in rep teams. You'll try to
build combinations or or what have you. Sometimes the players
taken upon themselves, but normally management handles that. Coaches handle

(12:07):
that and the players are pretty compliant. Usually the captain
will get his own room, just because usually there's an
odd number and someone's got to have their own room.
So the captain might have his own room, but other
than that they all buddy up. There have been some
camps I've been in where everyone got their own room.
I don't know how the camps are set up these

(12:29):
days or how they go. I don't know whether families
are involved, and well families stay in a different hotels.
I've been around the camp a couple of times up
there in Bridgement, it seems that all the families are
staying in the same hotel at different times. So I
don't know what the setup is these days. I've never
really inquired. But from a club perspective, I mean Bulldogs,
we go into camp most weeks prior to games and

(12:51):
assess the players and the staff, and they've got their
they've got their roommates. And it used to be how
I used to start every club meeting, every meeting that
we ever had, so that I knew that everyone was
there whose roommate's not here, and that was that was
my head count to know that everyone was there.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
But have you ever had a player I just blatantly
refused to room with someone who they've been allocated to No.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
No. There was a famous story many many years ago
when Tom Radonaghus was the incumbent New South Wales halfback
and he'd been replaced by a young upstart called Steve Mortimer.
And Steve Mortimer was the new kid on the block

(13:37):
and Tommy was everyone knew Tommy, tom Rough and Tumble Tommy,
and Steve Mortimer was a bit of a whiz kid,
and they decided it would be a good idea even
though Tommy had been relegated to the bench and Steve
Mortimer's come in that they'd roomed them together. So of
course when they get to the room, there's a double
bed in a single bed. Steve Mortimer is running into

(13:59):
the room, trasy his bag on the double bed, jumps
on the double bed and sets himself up there on
the double bed, and Tommy walks in and he sees
Steve Morter on the bed. He said, what are you doing?
He said? Steve said nothing much mate. He said can
you make us a cup of tea, to which Tommy
went and open the window, come back, grabs Steve's bag
and threw his bag out of the window. On the

(14:20):
end of the car park below then grabbed Steve Mortar
and threw him off the double bed. Steve got up
and said, do you want one milk or two? One
sugar or two in your cup of tea?

Speaker 2 (14:31):
Whoever thought that was a good idea was misguided.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
Yeah, so I think they get it wrong every now
and then. I think that's the story heard. I've heard
both of them tell it. It was a little less
friendly than that, but yeah, sometimes you get the roomless wrong.
You think you're going to try and mend a broken relationship,
but it doesn't work out that way.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
I think Lee Martin and Cameron Munster are going to
be sharing a room or kangaroo to it.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
I think there mate, I think their mates. I think
it's all I've put on.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
Oh you sure? Oh there's a bit of tension there.
They went at each other in the origin again.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
Yeah, but that's what made to do.

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