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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi everybody and welcome to the Inner Harbor
Studios.
Yeah, it's a little bit of skiphappens this afternoon, but
we're actually in the radiostation Inner Harbor Media 92.1.
The Wolf.
Thank you for checking in.
The door opens.
The sky was getting dark.
This guy came in and said yougot to get me out of the storm.
Yeah, but no, but Ken Dimashright, did I say that right?
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Oh my gosh, it's Ken Dimash.
Oh my gosh, yes, you did.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Be careful how you say that.
Yeah, exactly, it's good to seeyou, my friend, great to be
here.
Welcome to Syracuse, thank you.
Have you ever been to this areabefore?
No didn't think so.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
No, and I just, I literally just came in, followed
the follow.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
GPS put the address and I gave you earlier and said
didn't yeah turn right turn left, it's yeah, I haven't even had
a chance.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
All I did was have the do you um?
Speaker 1 (00:51):
do you have like?
Oh, it was raining on the wayin pouring yeah, yeah, it's
coming you know, um, this willbe posted probably during the
concert with hardy or after theshow, but still, I know
something that that's what wegot to look forward to in a
little bit.
It's a great show coming up,but let's talk about you a
little bit.
Where are you from?
St Louis, missouri Cardinals?
(01:11):
Fan, of course it's not achoice, because we're all on the
same page.
Okay, all right, I don't know ifI'm allowed to interview you.
Then here we're the Mets, theYankees or the Giants or the
Bills, depending on what time ofthe year it is when I say I'm a
fan, I like going.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
I don't get into the whole rivalry thing I have no
big stake in that and, as mykids even joke, it's like we
hardly get to games because I'musually into music or any kind
of art or other stuff.
Cool, I love going.
Yeah, how long have you beenplaying?
I picked this up like 16 yearsago.
Really yeah, yeah, I was agrown up, I had everything, all
(01:57):
different.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Right there with you, my friend.
Yeah, you make that turn andyou don't go back, oh yeah, and
then I saw music.
Yeah, so it's been a big changefor you.
Yeah, I mean because, obviously, being you know a little bit
older than a lot of people whenthey pick up the guitar, uh, I'm
sure you had a job, I'm sureyou were doing all this other
stuff, and then you went.
You know, I'm loving music andI want to be happy, so you went
(02:19):
down that road yes and no.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
So, like in 2009, you know, I I just out of
happenstance discovered um thatyou know I was at a wedding.
How much I want, how much youwant to hear I was I was at a
wedding.
Weddings are always fun yeah,and the lady was like, hey, sing
a song, kenny.
It was a very small weddingwith um it was, everybody was
from ireland, so they were very,they had their guitars out and
(02:42):
it was very all that was goingon and she's like sing a song
and I had never sang a song inmy life.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
So I sang an eldest song a little bit.
He goes you should sing you'dlove me.
Yeah, I forget, was that?
Was it that?
Oh, what was it?
You don't recall?
I figured at a wedding.
Maybe I can't help falling inlove or love me tender.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Now I guess my hands shaking my knees weak.
I can't seem to stand on my owntwo feet.
Who do you think of when you'vehad such luck?
I'm in love.
Ooh, I'm all shook up.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Okay, Kevin, Okay, Kevin yeah that was it but that
was pretty good too, you pulledit, I know.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but that waspretty good.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
So you fully I know.
Yeah, then you can shut me upfrom then on.
No, no, it's so true, though.
It's like us in radio we walkout on stage and we don't know
what we're gonna say, but theminute we open our mouth,
everything like, then you don'tshut up, right, right but it's,
all good stuff.
So I imagine, when you startplaying, you don't stop well,
yeah, I mean it's also um.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
So I had no, I'd never sang in front of anybody
ever before that.
So I did that.
And then, um, and then I wentand I started taking my daughter
to take piano lessons.
So then I got a guitar andstarted taking guitar lessons
and it was, you know, it wasfunny.
The guy's like, well, you'relearning really quickly, but you
know, don't expect us tocontinue at your age.
(04:03):
You know it's's like that's aninsult.
I know I was like dude, I wasstarting to get it.
So I went to another teacherthere I was like I don't want to
stick with somebody that'stelling me that's the, the wall.
And the same thing happened theother guy's like man, you're
really getting this quickly, butdon't expect this to continue.
I'm like what is?
Am I being punked?
Speaker 1 (04:22):
you know, I know seriously.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
So I went.
I had like four or fivedifferent teachers as I was
working my way through with mydaughter's lessons and anyway, I
could go on, but I don't know.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
No, no, no, no, that's good, that's good, it's a
.
He made that decision to godown that road doing your thing,
and I think if somebody told me, uh well, you're only going to
learn so much because you're soold, I'd be like you know,
that's all my reason.
I'm going to show you that Ican do this.
So, yeah, exactly.
Um, how much of your music isdrawn from real life experiences
(04:53):
?
Speaker 2 (04:54):
I'd say, uh well, all of it, but they're not all real
life experiences.
If that makes any sense.
So you channel yourself into afeeling that you might
understand, but you might nothave exactly lived.
Gotcha and I got you.
So, uh like, the last song inthe album is called without
living, which is about you knowall these.
(05:14):
I wouldn't know the price Ipaid, I wouldn't know the last,
you just wouldn't know, and thenyou've lived life.
So the fun part about cominginto music now is just so much
to draw on.
There's like I was just atanother spot and they were like
that should be a song.
You know I'm like, yeah, you'reright and I was talking about,
you know, uh, you know, lettingan album out in a couple months.
(05:35):
That's just about my daughterand how she you know he's like
15 or so.
You're just so scared to letthem grow up.
You start to feel like, oh no,right, oh no, she's growing up
and it was so cute when they'reseven having dinner and getting
ice cream and all that stuff,and it was like, and I captured
that in a song and we actuallyused it at her wedding I got, oh
(05:57):
wow, there to it.
Oh my gosh never released it.
I'm finally releasing it onHalloween of this year through a
different label.
I'm like, yeah, let's do itokay.
But that's like, yeah, yeah, no, I get it an experience, uh.
And then there's others thatare um, I mean, I came back from
being out with my buddies at abar and we just had a great time
.
We just we were just having ablast.
(06:19):
And I came home and I took myguitar out and I just started
playing it down in the basementand my wife's's like you know,
just kind of like you know, I'mgoing to town, right.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
All right.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
I don't know if I can just jump in.
But the song is called SaddleUp.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Saddle Up.
That's what she said to meSaddle Up.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
And it was this whole thing about being at a bar and
you know, and just theexcitement of it and this girl's
like let's go, I love it.
None of that happened, but itwas happening.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
It should be a song.
It is a song.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
It was all happening around me.
So it's like you're getting thevibe of the room and it's like
you could and there was suchfunny stupid stuff happening and
my wife comes back.
She's like you should recordthat I don't like you should
listen to her.
Yeah, the funniest part was talkabout not knowing what you're
doing, but just doing it.
Um, I was on my way tonashville and my wife's like do
(07:16):
you even know how songs aresupposed to be shaped?
And I'm like, uh, I, uh, Inever really thought about it.
She's like you're, you're goingto nash, nashville and you
don't even know.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Well, you're going to learn.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
And I so like that particular song.
She just was like yeah, there'sa verse, there's a chorus, then
there's another verse, usuallymaybe a bridge, and I'm like, oh
, so I rearranged it.
I'm like, thank you, and one ofthe songs which was about her I
was writing on the road, butit's like that kind of impromptu
stuff.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
But she knew all that yeah so how okay, you just
answered my question she knows,she knows music all right she's
not involved with it at all, butshe was telling you you are a
musician.
I wasn't told I was, but she'ssaying how you should shape the
song yeah, right, okay, whichwas huge, okay, all right, it's
good.
It's good, I'm not sayinganything.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
I think it's good to get that advice yeah, I mean,
the funniest part is I wastalking to somebody maybe this
morning or yesterday who wasasking about, you know, the
songwriting and they werementioning how so many artists
are very particular about theirsong and they don't want people
to kind of give that input orthey don't want to.
It's like, hey, this is my songand I'm like no, I don't know
(08:27):
what I'm doing.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
If you have a good idea, bring it here.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
And this last album.
It was so funny I never knew.
This whole time everybody kindof assumed that.
So you're in studio with thebest musicians on the planet and
they think I have an eagle,maybe like no, no far from it.
I don't know if I've ever giventhat vibe, but I had this guy in
the room with the producer andthey're like well, how much help
do you want?
(08:51):
I mean, how I go, I want all ofit.
It's like I'm what.
It's like we.
We're trying to make a hit.
How do we do?
Help me, help me.
And there, and it was thecoolest thing, I'm in the studio
singing and they're like drawyour vowels, dude.
And it was the coolest thing.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
I'm in the studio singing and they're like draw
your vowels and it was thecoolest thing they were teaching
me yeah, how to sing my ownsongs and you're not the only
artist that has told me thatreally going to.
No, they.
They get these professionalmusicians, studio musicians or
vocalists, even in thebackground vocals.
Uh, just to help you out in theadvice they give you, and you
know, they've been there,they've been on hit records,
they're doing all that.
They know right what you wantand how to tell you how to do it
(09:29):
right.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
I've heard that from a few few different artists,
taking me a minute yeah tofigure that out but I don't know
.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
I'm hearing good stuff, so that's cool
whereabouts in nashville.
Do you record?
Speaker 2 (09:40):
oh well, that's an interesting thing too.
I've tried.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
I forget all the names yeah, there's so many, of
course, which oh yeah, okay, ohcool okay that was I actually
slept there, stayed like a weekit's like these old homes that
are built into studios big lodgeof a home.
Yeah, I do see, I don't knowwhether or not our viewers know
that or not and you, maybe youcould tell a little bit about it
as well.
Uh, I've done broadcasts fromnashville's from nashville and
(10:05):
uh, for example, the cmas, andthey set you up in these
recording studios that areactually old homes and the way
they've been, you know,soundproofed, and that the
bedrooms are now vocal booths,so on and so forth.
It's amazing.
Maybe the living room churches?
Yeah, it's.
You'll be driving down the roadnot even realize that.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Oh my god that's a studio, the last one we just did
.
They have millions of dollarsof gear in the in this studio
right it looks like an old shed.
Like you're driving down theroad, there's a shed just no
idea you walk in and it's likeoh, they're like yeah, we don't
really want people to know well,that may, that's a good point.
(10:44):
This is here and it was not inthe heart of Nashville, so the
first one was in Franklin.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
That was just outside Yep, first time I ever recorded
.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
It was awesome, just like you described.
You'd go into one room.
The fiddler was in the hallwaybut there's plugins everywhere.
Yes, and they would givedifferent sounds.
The the drummer, of course, isin a isolated room.
The vocal booth is an isolatedroom, but it was just in the the
guitar player, the bass player,always out in the open, kind of
thing.
So it's literally like livingin a movie when you're doing it.
(11:11):
So that was amazing.
It's amazing and um, and thelast one, like I said, was in a,
in, a, uh, a shed, but morerecently, and I say last one,
when we went to do the vocals, Iwent to the producer's house.
Oh, wow.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
So to your point.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then we went to do thevocals.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
I went to the producer's house, oh wow.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
So to your point.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
And then we went over to do some of the lead guitar
licks and we went to his house.
He has a studio.
Everybody in Nashville hastheir own studio in their house
now, and when I say studio forthe guitar player, it was the
breezeway from the garage intothe house.
They just use it.
That's it.
They just need the amp in acloset.
Yep, and he's just sittingthere on the steps rocking out
(11:48):
the licks.
I'm like this is the coolest,craziest thing I've ever seen in
my life and so now we've goneaway from that movie feeling
exactly exactly and it'schanging even more now, like
wish you wouldn't go, isrecorded entirely differently
than anything I've ever recorded.
Yeah, it was, tell me about it.
(12:10):
Yeah, it was a guy with akeyboard.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Laid down the entire sound.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Really.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Yeah, it was really weird to say.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Like a track at a time.
Oh, okay, all right.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Like the backing track.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Okay, then they did it.
Oh okay, all right, like thebacking track.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Okay, exactly and all right going in and everybody
goes right, and then they andthey start going and everybody's
going like thunder which iswhat you see in the movies.
But this was like here's trackand I was like it was so funny.
I I'm like dude, I can't singit to this.
It's like I don't get thetiming.
What are you doing?
He was like oh, you need tomake the chorus longer and I go
(12:47):
now I've got to add to it.
It's gonna be like a year and ahalf to write this song.
We're recording in two daysbecause you'll get it I mean you
got it and he, because he'slike it, feels better to have
that.
I'm like okay, because I saidhelp me, and he goes for me to
do that chord transition.
It'd be a little better, itwasn't pushy, he was just cool.
(13:07):
So we did and I made it and itmade it made it better.
But the point was he had it allthere and it was so weird to
sing to Cause I kept going.
It sounds just like a beercommercial.
I heard I go, I can't even singand they put everybody else on
it.
So it was.
It was weird when I was singingit and then when I finally
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heard it, they added and andeverybody gets the track right,
and they did it at their placeand then they bring it all
together all together it's likevoila and that's what we hear.
Yeah, and then I'm reacting toit going could you pull down the
guitar?
Can we those harmony vocalshard?
No, and just that kind of stuffuntil it all gets evened out
yeah, and then you give it tomastering and then they make it
(13:49):
just right.
So when you turn it on yourradio, you, you hear it.
You need to turn that down toowell, yeah we can.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Yeah, I don't know if you can hear it through the mic
, but uh, you know, becausewe're on a radio station.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Yeah, I know, I know, it just occurred to me.
Uh, I don't mean to interrupt,we're doing no, there's a little
knob on the right.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
No other way.
Oh, that's better.
Oh yeah, look at that.
Thank you, reagan's there yeahno, we're all you know.
This is.
This is the real deal.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
This is the real deal I started hearing that song
when we were talking.
I was like I just started tolike a squirrel and I'm like
what's?
That I heard that snare inthere and you're talking about
listening to music, and I wasjust starting.
Well, if you did.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
If we did this podcast at the skip happen
studio, which is in my house,you'd have a yellow lab jumping
up on your lap.
You would have maybe pop andhear me popping a beer over in
the other corner.
You know, I mean it works.
I know, and that was theoriginal plan.
You know everything is changing.
What is your?
Ken Dimash is who I'm chattingwith.
He's the new independent artist, but not some great music at
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the album coming out.
But what?
What is your biggest challengeas a musician, as a newer
musician?
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Wow, and as an old man, yeah, I mean, I only said
that as's a joke, that's been,that's been.
I mean, honestly, goodness, youlook at it and it's like how is
that, uh, the rhyming, and I'mwatching like parker mccullum or
something that play, and I'mjust like going and that guy
could kick my butt so fast.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
You know, just like going, that young, strong, it's
like when I was 27, you'd stillkick my butt yeah, but it's like
yeah, right, right, I'm going?
Speaker 2 (15:28):
how do you even compete with all these super?
You know, handsome, attractiveyoung you know and I go ah, it's
like that tv show where shegets hit and she's like I have
more insurance, like you havethese stories right you're a
storyteller and it's like, oh,so it took me a minute to get my
head around that like legit.
Um.
As far as challenges, um,that's, that's kind of an
(15:51):
advantage.
My, my inability to stop is areally big benefit.
You know, it's like I don'treally figure out why I'm doing
all this stuff, but I mean, thebiggest challenge is that it is
I'm an independent artist right,it's tough, but that means he's
doing it all by himself.
Yeah, and if you, if you're anindependent artist, there's just
(16:11):
insurmountable hills and wallsand gates.
That you're just.
You know, and I, as I wastalking to one of the fellows
when I, you know, in 2010,recording and I didn't realize,
you know, these were just famouspeople that I didn't know were
famous, like they were playingwith john mayer and they were
doing right, I didn't know themokay, I'm having these
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conversations like I, you knowit's like my neighbor or
something right, and then I findout later I'm like, oh, kind of
a big deal.
I wouldn't have been able to domy album if I knew I was around
better.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
It was much better, yes, but I was just telling the
guy.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
I'm like, I'm just looking for that one loose brick
to get some daylight in thiswall, you know.
So streaming is really hard topenetrate as an independent
artist.
There's just access todifferent distribution, um, but
you're looking at something no,no, no, no, I'm.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
I'm agreeing with you and there's a lot and there's a
lot of good about being anindependent artist.
You don't have that 70 30 splitwith the label, which a lot of
people don't understand.
That's a lot to do with money,how you got to pay back so much
before you can even make.
You know they think wow, he'shad a song on the radio.
He went top 10.
Oh my goodness, he man, he Ibet she's driving a great car
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and he's got a beautiful home.
Uh, no yeah, I've watched allthose documentaries just the
opposite yep, exactly, they'rebasically an employee and
they're getting a loan to do allof that and it's a business and
you're being told what to do,to a certain extent, by some of
these label execs cool.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
It does look good, right though.
I mean I'm jealous, it's likethey're, but they've got the
machine to put together a show.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
That's a lot of work but you can, as an independent
artist.
You control what you make, youcontrol the shows you do, you
control the music that you'reputting out for sure you'll have
a team behind you.
I mean, you got people workingthe radio and working press
release and you know mediaaspect of it all.
But um, it's not.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
You know you, you have the overall say yes, but
the the breadth of it is, youknow, without the major label
it's just so hard to penetrateand I'm sure you know you get it
like the certain.
Just so what do you do?
You know, you try to do themost amazing job you can within
the yards you can get into, youknow?
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I mean, it's like so and that'sexactly what I'm doing.
So I'm touring radio, going tostations that will it's what we
call a radio tour yeah, and yougo station to station, you meet
the people that are making thedecisions and let me go get that
person.
Just kidding, no, no, no, Iknow I'm kidding and they get to
know you and it's like it'salmost no different than, you
(18:47):
know, an artist being discoveredby a label who then has the
relationship to say this thisone's great.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
How do you, you know, doing what you do, there's a
lot of negativity, there's a lotof like, well, I mean, you get
a lot of no's.
Okay, all right, is that?
I mean, I've talked to otherNashville artists and and the
question I ask it's a prettycommon one how do you handle
criticism?
How do you handle it as anartist when somebody says you
(19:15):
know, ken, yeah, you're reallygood, but you're not what I'm
looking for.
You know what I mean?
Something like that?
Then you kind of I know, if itwas me it'd be like I shut the
door and leave and I'd be upset,but you've got to be able to
handle that Right.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Yeah, and I here's a funny thing.
So my wife always laughs at meabout.
She's like why do you thinkeverybody loves you?
You know, and, and, and.
Even when people treat me badly, I, she, has to remind me of
who those bad players are in mylife.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
You know it in my life, you know it's like don't,
don't, don't end up this way, orlike so, and so yeah, you know,
and uh, and I and I just thinkit's so funny.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
so why do you think everybody loves you?
And in my head, um, I have aquick funny story.
When I was in high school gradeschool or high school, I think,
first year high school I was intrack.
I was fast, I was scrappy, fastlittle runner, and it was a
hundred yard dash and I'm inthis race.
I run it fastest time I everhad.
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Crushed it, came in last placeJust barely, just like fast.
I mean, it was like how did Inot win this?
Go over my dad in the stands.
I'm like, did you see that?
And he's like, yeah, did you.
He did you.
He goes, you lost right.
I'm like, yeah, but you see howwell I came in last and that
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was like our joke forever.
He's just, it was just a funnything of I get it.
You know it's like my dad.
You know, as long as my dadthought it was something you
know and he gets, that was myturns out.
Maybe like five years ago.
I found out that race becausemy friend won it.
That race was the day that heset the record hasn't been
beaten.
I just happened to be.
That race was the day that heset the record Hasn't been
beaten.
I just happened to be in therace.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
The day that everybody ran faster than
anybody ever will.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Yeah, and I was right on.
It's like if he hadn't beenthere I'd be the guy.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Look at the numbers.
Don't look at what happenedwith the race, no, no, but look
at your numbers.
It was the best you ever did.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
So, as far as you know, people telling you your
bad stuff, even though he didcome in last.
But that's all right, but maybeyou just try not to hear it.
You know, I hope, because whenyou're saying it, I'm having a
stretch.
I've had such great experienceswith like everybody in radio has
been so amazing, and I mean alot of stations that don't play
me, I don't, it doesn't evencompute, but I'm still, I'm
visiting, I'm having a greattime, yeah, so yeah, I don't
(21:28):
know if I answered that you didwell, hopefully, or not not
really, but you did well.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Yeah, you kind of.
No, I'll kid, I kid around alot, yeah.
So, and I I think you alreadyrealize that, uh, it's my
personality and and I like yourpersonality and I like what you
got going.
Um, if you weren't playingmusic, what do you think you'd
be doing?
Let me guess, were you a schoolteacher.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
No, I've never done that um, but I could.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
I would love to teach art really, yeah, I'm trying to
think what, uh, now I give up.
What would you be?
Why?
Speaker 2 (22:00):
I do, I have another whole all right, what's your
other game?
My other gig, yeah here we go.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Give me a clue it's art related.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
It's artistically related you sculptures.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
I wish I would love to do that too um, it's a really
good guess.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
It's art related, kind of artsy cartoon I'm good
at that, but that's not iteither.
Yeah, last one let's ask reaganhelp me, how'd you?
Guess that architect.
How'd you know that?
Yeah, how did you?
Oh, okay how did you get that?
Speaker 1 (22:37):
she guessed architect , because she's a.
Yes, I've been out of collegefor a lot of years.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
She just graduated yeah, you nailed it.
So, yeah, no, I'm a full-onarchitect so you design
buildings, I design buildings,spaces, and I never here's a
funny thing, I never went toschool for it, so you have that.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
You know that printing I can do that, no way
really well, I have a funnystory on it.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
So I went to school to study design, right?
Speaker 1 (23:07):
yeah, okay and this is funny if I can tell the story
it's all good it's all good,we're good, nobody's listening
well, they will be, but that'sokay in school.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
I would do all the design work for this one girl in
the school okay and she woulddo all my handwriting because I
couldn't do it okay so it's likethis cheating scheme we had
because you had.
So it's like this cheatingscheme we had because you had to
do the first job.
I get this architectural firm.
I had to do all the handwriting.
I was like, oh no, I hadcheated my way through school
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and never did it.
I'm really good at the designstuff.
So I had to learn that, like ina week, so anyway, yeah, I do.
So that's cool, man.
Yeah, the architecture thinghas been week, so anyway, yeah,
I do so.
So that's cool man.
Yeah, the architecture thinghas been um, and if I wasn't
doing that, because I've beendoing that, I was gonna do magic
as a lifetime profession.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Really, yeah, I had been um see, I'm amazed by that
as well.
I have some friends that reallydeep into the magic magicians,
and even though we're goodfriends, he still will not yeah
certain secrets tv so yeah yeah,yeah, I, I know, I know, I know
I get it, but that's amazing.
Well, good for you, man.
I had a blast with that.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
That was in all of this.
Just to give you an example ofit, like when I'm doing these uh
goofy tchotchkes as marketing,yeah I love this, by the way.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
I don't know if, um, you can see it, but uh, I don't
know if you can see it, but Idon't wish you wouldn't go radio
.
Yeah, w W Y G.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
It's all over here, WG.
It's a W.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Oh you wouldn't go W Y WG 109.3.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Which does not exist on the dial.
No, that's why it says I have awhole YouTube page and my dad
would always say, when I wasdoing magic shows, he's like,
like kenny, you need a themebecause he had done in theater
and stuff, you need a theme,kenny.
So you know, magic isn't enoughof a theme.
You know, boom birds, it's likeall, oh, a coin disappeared, oh
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, I'm linking rings.
It's like, what's the theme?
Why magic is?
I get it, but beyond that, whatcould it be?
So I would do shows that werebreak dancing.
I was doing shows like a waiterand everything was with the
money in the tabletop candlesand yeah yeah I
just always had a theme to it.
And for music, same thing.
It's like how do you promote asong like, wish you wouldn't go
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and I'm, and it's just well.
What do you do?
Send people tissues, or youknow how do you get a.
So the tchotchke became let'smake up a radio station.
That is that, that idea.
So the whole magic thing, thearchitectural, the drawing, all
of that has just taken on awhole different meaning with
music.
So that's, that's like another.
(25:39):
When I found that, I was likewhat is music about?
because that was always magic tome, music is never understood
how people could just sit in aroom and all start playing
together.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
It's magic, it is music is magic to it and it's
the universal language foreverybody music.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Music brings everybody together yes, yes and
I did and I never had that.
So I did, um, when I was doingthe magic stuff, I was going to
do that as a living and I hadcompeted.
I competed in Hawaii and I can,as becoming friends with people
in Japan.
Japan gave me this big award.
I was going to live in Japanand it was like getting what you
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know it's like.
This is a whole different thingand I'm.
I just said I don't think I'mgoing to survive this.
It was just you know it's like.
What kind of a life do you want?
It was what I had to decide,and so doing this music is
almost like all right, I'vegrown up, we've raised some kids
and and here you go, do this,do it now, baby, I'm loving it,
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yeah yeah, how many kids three,wow yeah girls, boys, one
daughter who got married, and Ihave a song that's coming out
this halloween okay, yeah, youmentioned that I cannot wait.
It's called butterfly girl andit's just about your daughter
growing up, and well you know Iimmediately had a throwback to
butterfly kisses somebody elsesaid that too.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Yeah, that was a good song, but uh, bob carlisle did
it and it was about, you know,walking down watching her grow,
and then she walks down theaisle.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Oh, you're kidding I didn't know how the song went.
Is it seriously?
Well, I think it busted forcopyright.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
No, no, no, no, but I'd like that and you know
what's funny and, as a father ofthree daughters, I'll be sure
to listen to this, it's.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
I mean, it's just, it's just such, I mean my
daughters are groaning.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
They've given me like eight grandkids, so wow, yeah,
I haven't had that.
Now you're going.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Oh, you are old I know, yeah, you're a lot older
than I am.
Yeah, look how old he is, andhe's working radio.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
He showed me doing that, he's old.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Why is he doing it now um?
Is there somebody else in here?
Questions oh it keeps youexcited, keeps you young I no,
it does 100%.
You know it's like I am runninga race.
Like you know, I'm the guythat's trying to run in the
Olympics.
It's like you're too old to bein the Olympics.
Well, you know why not.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Well, there's a lot of reasons why not for that.
So we're talking to independentartist Ken Dimash.
I said that, right, right, yeah, ken Dim.
To uh independent artist kendimash I said that, right, right
, yeah, ken dimash.
Okay, okay, and uh, wish youwouldn't go is the single.
You know I love the coffee mugsand when you came in and you
know you were handed out a fewof these.
I said that is so clever, justthe whole idea, and it kind of
goes with you being an architect.
(28:21):
Because now, as my mind startsturning and thinking about
everything you've been sayingand what you do and what you're
going to do, I said, yeah,definitely Good choice.
Yeah, putting it all together.
So so the single is Wish youWouldn't Go.
Yeah, and I will.
I know we're going to hear that, but I would also.
I'm going to attach the actualstudio version to this video.
(28:45):
So well, you know, becauseyou're old.
No, no, I'm only, no, no, I'monly kidding, I'm only kidding
but uh, you know, I say that toeverybody because it's one thing
, doing it acoustic yeah, I loveacoustic it's another thing
being on the internet and itkind of takes away from the
sound a little bit.
When it comes to music it does,unless you know, if you're
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doing it live, like we're doingthis, um, it takes away from it.
So I want, I want people not Iwant them to see you and hear
you play it, but then I alsowant to expose them to the
actual studio version and you'llgo damn, this is good well, and
also I mean it's good anyways,because the guitar only gets
Speaker 2 (29:23):
so much so much of the sound yep, and.
But it also is where they allstart.
Like you know all the songs youdo, I just sent one for our
next album going in in the nextmonth to record for next year,
and I, I like, sent in the track.
I'm like going all right, we're, we're in a safe spot.
We've been doing this a minuteright I didn't even think before
(29:45):
I hit send, but don't ever letthat circulate anywhere because
it's so bad, you know.
And then a songwriting friendof mine bless her soul, man, she
, uh, she put one out with me onit and I'm like, and it's like
showing up everywhere and it waslike that was a first take,
quick idea for what your songcould be and she put it out
there like, what are you doing?
(30:06):
There's like nothing on that,oh my gosh.
But at the same time, I love it.
My favorite is getting on theair and just totally doing an
awful job and messing up well,it makes it more memorable
absolutely yeah.
When you're driving down theroad and you hear somebody
totally mess up, it's good andyou're gonna want to hear it
again.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
I, yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Yeah, exactly yeah, your meme is forgetting your, uh
, your own lyrics, which I doall the time that's embarrassing
oh, it's not.
You make up new ones as you goand nobody would know the
difference.
Oh, they do.
They got the special in personedition I was doing all right
you know how hard it is to gofrom that conversation I know, I
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know something all sentimental.
We need a better segue.
All right, well, um tosomething all sentimental.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
We need a better segue, all right.
Well, what can we do to make ita better segue?
Speaker 2 (30:54):
I guess we can tell them what the song's about.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Yeah, that'll bring us emotionally involved,
relationship-based.
And there he is.
Ladies and gentlemen, Ken DeVos, Wish you wouldn't go.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
You got your reasons.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
I know, maybe I didn't let it show, but you're
the most important part of me.
Maybe I could have done thingsa little differently.
(31:32):
So if you want a drink, let'sdrink.
If you want to love me, ifyou're gonna leave, just leave
real slow, cause I don't wantthis to be be be just another
(31:53):
memory.
Baby, if you're gonna leave,just leave real slow.
But I wish you wouldn't go.
Wish you wouldn't go.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Can't we just talk no strings.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
Maybe we'd laugh about all kinds of stupid things
.
God knows I've done a few.
You know I'd never hurt you.
I'd never hurt you.
So if you wanna drink, let'sdrink.
If you wanna love, love me.
(32:44):
But if you're gonna leave, justleave.
Feel slow, cause I don't wantthis to be, just another memory.
I wish you would know If we wentour own separate ways, if I
(33:22):
gave you all kinds of space.
If you want to drink, let'sdrink.
If you want to drink, let'sdrink.
If you want to love, love me.
But if you're gonna leave, justleave real slow, cause I don't
want this to be Just anothermemory.
Baby, if you're gonna leave,just leave real slow.
(33:45):
But I wish you would go.
You're gonna leave, just toleave me feel slow, but I wish
you wouldn't go, wish youwouldn't go, wish you wouldn't
go.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
Don't go Wow.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Yeah, it took me a minute to get into there.
Oh wow, but you got it.
Dude Boy, is that what wethought?
Yeah, yeah, sorry, hi Wow wow,thank you.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Yeah, I mean I would assume that's the reaction you
get from about every every radioperson you go in front of,
because it's music like thatthat will turn heads and will
make listeners turn that volumeup and uh go wow.
Either they're going throughsomething or something is about
(34:51):
to happen they know it or theywant somebody to know how they
feel that is going to be thesong that's going to do it,
thank you.
Now I need a tissue, wow.
You know what If somebody saysno, but you get emotional.
You're not pulling a chain, no,no, well, no, because if you
can pull on those heartstrings,you've got yourself a hit.
(35:13):
Beautiful you do, and that wasserious when we were starting.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
It's so funny I don't know.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
What's he laughing at ?
He's singing a song.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
You can't even get into the song, you know, and I'm
like messing up the song.
I'm like what the joke?
I didn't know, and then youstart to get into it, then I
forget I'm, and then it's hard,like some of these songs, like
when I recorded that I wascrying in the recording, like it
was like falling while I sang.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
I believe it.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
It's hard to sing the songs.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
And that Butterfly Girl.
I am a mess.
Can you do one verse of theButterfly Girl, Just one verse.
I'm not going to ask you toreveal the whole song because I
know you don't want to.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Oh no, I get it.
I got to get my head in.
All right, hold on, I can't getmy head around.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
You can do it, though it's Ken Dimash Used to walk,
used to talk, used to laugh alot, used to hold my hand across
in the parking lot Sign of thecross.
As you go to sleep, I pray togod for your soul to keep.
(36:22):
It'll be so hard to let you go,girl.
You're my butterfly girl.
You're my butterfly girl.
You're my butterfly girl.
Flying away, flying away.
(36:42):
Delicate wings, delicate wings.
Staying up late and playingsongs was our favorite thing by
the truck headlight man.
She could really sing, justlike words in the air.
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They float away.
I close my eyes, so in my mindshe'd stay.
I close my eyes so in my mindshe'd stay.
It'll be so hard to let her go.
She's my butterfly girl.
She's my butterfly girl.
She's my butterfly girl.
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She'll find a way.
She'll find a way away Ondelicate wings, delicate wings.
You're so beautiful as youspread your wings, you're out on
(37:50):
your all just fluttering andyou're just beyond my reach.
Your colors in the sunlight arecoming back to me, coming back
to me.
So my butterfly girl, oh mybutterfly girl, my butterfly
(38:16):
girl, my butterfly girl, flyingaway, flying away On delicate
wings.
Delicate wings Used to walk,used to talk, used to laugh a
lot, used to hold my handcrossing the parking lot.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
Wow, dude, I didn't ask you to play the whole thing.
Sorry, I couldn't stop and Ididn't want you to stop.
Thank you, I didn't look up.
I would have.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
I'm already.
Please, no, please, I'm justI'm, I'm just yeah and uh, so
much closer to your mind, dude,I know the feeling, being the
dad of daughters, uh, althoughmine are already past the point
of getting married and you knowhaving families of their own
dance with.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
My daughter had her wedding.
That song, yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
So all of it just means anyway dude being here
mean so much, uh, getting achance to play that stuff and
having wow, yes, yes, and thiswill be posted here real quick
um, what's the first concert youever attended?
First concert I ever we'regonna change the attitude here a
little bit, we're gonna justhappen.
You do that.
Yeah, he likes to have fun, butI know, I know, I know.
So, uh, yeah, I'm verysentimental, you know.
(39:33):
Yeah, well, I am too be carefulwith me.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
I'm very breakable, you know.
Uh, aside from this toughexterior, oh, yeah, yeah, pink
shirt on uh, my first concert,oh my gosh, oh, oh well, I'll
tell you what I think it wasokay, not really a concert.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
All right, I went to go see andrew dice clay oh, so I
was standing behind.
It won't go there.
It won't go there.
He did some elvis, though, oh Icould see him doing that.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
Oh man, he shook, he shook he yeah, he's got that
voice, he was I mean that's whatjust strikes me as the first,
uh, the next, the other, theother concert.
My first real concert was a DefLeppard concert.
All right, and my best friendgot us in with some scalp
tickets.
Turns out they weren't real andwe got kicked out before Def
(40:22):
Leppard came on stage.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
Well, that's a memory .
Speaker 2 (40:24):
Yeah, yeah, we're out in the car and I'm like you,
idiot.
And they were like you have thewrong seats.
I like you have the wrong seats.
I was like let's get up andmove.
He's like no, these are ours.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
It's like no, we're going out of the building now.
Way to go.
Thanks, buddy dude.
All right, what's your go-tokaraoke song?
Oh, I don't care, okay, allright, uh, I'll tell you one
thing though.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
No, no, I tried to do a karaoke song okay, uh at my
son's college and I I I lovedoing.
Um, I won't play because I'vebeen playing up too much a Dua
Lipa song, oh okay levitating.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
Yes, yes, my guitar.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
I mix it in with.
I do a lot of mashes like thedo mash yeah, and I'll mix in
old town road and Dua Lipa, soI'm like I'll do Dua Lipa.
They started playing it.
It was in her key.
That didn't work too well.
That's what I'm not doinganymore karaoke.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
You can't.
Oh, my god, that's so funny.
Bucket list of places you'dlike to play, but happens oh man
, that's like uh, what I need atruck, a wheelbarrow.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
There's so many places I haven't played.
I have been working on thecraft of songwriting, producing,
getting out there, trying toget songs that people know.
Know to collect enough songs toplay big venues, but you know
bridgestone arena red rocks.
I'll give you my favoritechoice okay my favorite yes,
right here, my favorite uh thingto accomplish would be to play
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at the fox theater in st louis,which is where I saw dice clay
yeah and I did a magiccompetition there okay, way back
, so it's like going full circle.
I love it.
Yeah, I love a theater feelbecause it's more of a stand-up
comedy show like you and I aredoing.
And then you break into thisacoustic on a stool type of show
.
That's my goal.
Didn't want to put it out thereand mess it up.
(42:05):
That's all good.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
Coffee or whiskey before a show.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
Yeah, what?
Or whiskey before a show?
Speaker 1 (42:15):
yeah, what coffee?
Coffee or whiskey.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
Before a show put your hands together we got this,
we got the whiskey.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
I don't I rarely will drink before love it during a
show um.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
I've had all my buddies that are doing it.
I'll be like you're in thewrong key.
Oh, you're in the wrong room atthis point, so I don't drink at
all live performance.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
If fans and these are certain quickies I wrote down
if fans could describe you inone word, what would you hope?
Speaker 2 (42:40):
it is fun, perfect, perfect, perfect boots or
sneakers I bought, I brought myboots and I brought my sneakers.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
I know I gotta wear my favorite sneakers.
Oh, no, no, hey, dudes, no, no,that's good, it's good, I love
them, love them, love them howmany of those can you buy.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
You have to buy a lot because you know what they do.
Spoiler alert I power wash mine.
You can't make them not smelldude, I power wash my.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
I have what they call canes.
They're not hey dudes, butstill they're like clogs, but
they're the full and I powerwash them.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
Yes, I do like the third power, wash their toast.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
You can't get a lot of that point.
You can't get a lot out of it,but it's like they look brand
new.
Yeah, but they feel so good, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
Now boots are super comfortable.
All right, they're morecomfortable than.
So if you're going out, yeahyeah, if you're going out to all
the bars and national booths,the booths you go and go see
your nephew, or something.
Yeah, hey, dudes Right.
Speaker 1 (43:37):
Oh, hey dudes, hey dudes, hey dudes are everywhere.
I got you.
Check out the canes if youhaven't.
But yeah, so that easy, or KenDimash?
Speaker 2 (43:49):
music.
If you go to Dimash music,it'll take you to Ken Dimash.
Okay, okay, I just kept that,because that's what I started
with and then I realized well,nobody has a name Ken Dimash
either.
All the socials just have KenDimash and streaming.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
You know what you?
When I hear butterfly,butterfly girl, you should
really.
Well, it's just me talking, butbeing the dad of three
daughters um, that song needs tobe marketed towards weddings.
I agree because if that gets ona site and and I know I've
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worked a lot of weddings in mylife, being who I am and what I
do that brides are looking forthat special song and a lot of
brides don't want something theyhear every day, yeah, and
they're going to hear that andgo oh my God, yeah, I want my
dad to listen to this.
I want, and I guarantee theyboth will be crying and I
guarantee that's going to be onthat playlist.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
The father daughter we're.
We're trying something new.
In October we have a label outof Germany that's going to
release I have our current album, 20 different routes just hit
over labor day, so it's just outthere, that's everywhere.
And then we're releasinganother five song album out of a
label out of Germany, whichincludes butterfly girls, on
November 14th.
Speaker 1 (45:05):
So I'm going to get it.
I'll tell you right now I'mgoing to.
I'm going to go get thatawesome, I'm definitely gonna
agree with you.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
I had to figure out how do I market it to weddings
and, uh, I agree, it's.
It's totally.
Speaker 1 (45:14):
Check out some of the wedding websites and there's so
many there's so many ladies,there are young women that are
trying to plan their weddingsand they don't know.
Speaker 2 (45:24):
You know music and wouldn't it be the funniest
things like.
Speaker 1 (45:26):
You try to figure out a formula of what's going to
work and you just writesomething that you love and
that's the one that works youknow, no, but then then they get
to know you, and now you putout some other stuff and it just
you know, it's one fan at atime and just continue to grow.
Speaker 2 (45:44):
I mean huge thank you to like my neighbors would walk
out while I'm going for a walkwith my wife and they'll come
out say Kenny, love the new songyou know and it's like my
wife's.
Speaker 1 (45:52):
They'll come out and say, Kenny, love the new song.
Speaker 3 (45:54):
It's so funny.
These are my neighbors.
Speaker 2 (45:56):
My wife's just like oh my gosh, are you going to
talk the whole time?
I'm like, yeah, I love this,this is great.
She's like do you have to talkto everybody?
I'm like I love people.
Speaker 1 (46:05):
I can see that because we hadn't met before
until you walked through thedoor.
Speaker 2 (46:10):
This is the neatest way to meet, so many people.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
I love it and I stage .
Speaker 2 (46:14):
By the way, you know you do this a lot.
You get to know everybody.
It's almost like an X.
You know times 10 of meetingand getting to be friends with
people by having a stage theythink they're just looking at
you, but it's like you're seeingall of them and you connect
with so many people.
It's super fun.
Speaker 1 (46:31):
It is super fun.
I look forward to connectingagain.
I know we have CRS in March.
Speaker 2 (46:38):
I've gone for 25 plus years, we just haven't ran into
each other.
Speaker 1 (46:42):
I've been at bar lines dude.
Speaker 2 (46:43):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (46:46):
Was it you?
Speaker 1 (46:46):
that called me when I fell off the stool.
Speaker 3 (46:49):
I don't know, you probably landed on me.
I was already on the ground.
Speaker 1 (46:54):
I've had some pretty rough I used to don't tell
anybody at bar lines, but I used.
Every year I went I'd take abar lines glass, I'd get my
drink and I have a collection ofthose you know most of my.
Those are the only ones thatlast yeah, yeah, they're the
thick glasses you get your beerin the dishwasher something
breaking by kicking on the edge.
Yeah, not those they are goingto get.
Speaker 2 (47:13):
I don't think you're the only one.
Speaker 1 (47:14):
It's like they're going.
Where did all the glasses go?
Oh, that guy from Syracuse musthave.
Speaker 2 (47:19):
Well, I didn't know.
Speaker 1 (47:20):
I love going to that, yeah, and I was in different
hotel rooms.
Speaker 2 (47:23):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (47:24):
Oh yeah, this year it's March.
Yes, anybody, that's anybody.
Speaker 2 (47:35):
Which is why we are going on October 20th to record,
and I'm going there in twoweeks to pre-discuss it, because
it's like I want to have arelease when you get there, when
everybody's there.
It's a lot of planning.
Speaker 1 (47:48):
Grassroots, who I know is.
You know, they're the promoters.
They're the promoters for thatand the promoters for radio, uh,
the best team in nashville whenit comes to promotion.
I mean there's a lot.
I mean there's a lot of goodones, don't get me wrong.
And I love nancy and the gangand everybody that works there
john um, but they do.
And shannon uh, such great andshout out to shannon um, yeah,
yep, just do a great job, do agreat job.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
I agree with you.
I, we, we did it in 2010.
I went to nashville.
I'd never done this and theysaid have you know, play a song?
And I played a song and youguys are like hats me on the
shoulders, like well, you'redone with the architecture, son.
I was like that's cool, andthey go see this.
They're pointing to billy raycyrus.
Yeah, yeah, that's why I wentto number one and I'm like I'll
(48:32):
start.
Speaker 3 (48:32):
I'm like awesome, awesome.
Speaker 1 (48:33):
What do I do?
Speaker 2 (48:34):
so they all helped me so I had a chance to work with
jack cry yeah, oh, I love jack.
Speaker 1 (48:39):
Oh, my god I agree with you.
Speaker 2 (48:41):
Now it's different.
Now it's like you have to pickone to go with.
Speaker 1 (48:43):
Yeah, but they had a lot of independence, and I've
worked with them all as well, soa lot of good friends you seem
to know many years, knoweverything, many years.
Speaker 2 (48:51):
You're a guy.
I need to pick your brain up.
You know, and I welcome.
Speaker 1 (48:53):
I'd like to pick your brain a little bit, but I've
been doing it a long time and myNashville connections are
strong.
Speaker 2 (48:59):
That's awesome.
People assume I have thembecause I'm older.
Speaker 1 (49:02):
But I'm just meeting everybody for the first time.
Little do they know you'reyounger than I am.
Speaker 2 (49:06):
You that when you, when you come in like later in
the game, you haven't burned anybridges not yet and you won't?
Speaker 1 (49:13):
I hope not and you won't, so I'm kind of grown up.
Speaker 2 (49:15):
I know I don't want to burn any bridges.
Speaker 1 (49:17):
I don't do experience .
You know how to cross thosebridges without burning them
even other artists.
You know, I've met and then soforth.
Speaker 2 (49:23):
I'll call them and I'm like, just complaining about
my life problems, that I'm, andthey're like, oh, I can
actually talk to you and we talk.
And then they'll call me on hey, I'm going to Nashville,
anybody you can suggest I playwith.
I'm like, yeah, I play withsomeone, and it's not like I'm
trying to compete and beat them.
It's like now I'm almost likethis grown-up dad going you're
really good, how can I help you?
(49:44):
And hopefully it all comes backor doesn't, doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (49:47):
Thank you, You're awesome dude.
Speaker 2 (49:49):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (49:50):
Thank you for coming to the Syracuse, thank you for
coming into our historic innerharbor media broadcasting
facility and all the stationsand all that.
But thank you for being hereand thank you for watching.
Make sure you subscribe, makesure you tell your friends, make
sure you buy the music.
You will not be disappointed.
I'm going to turn the mic andI'm going to reach.
(50:10):
This is getting out thisafternoon.
Hi everybody and welcome to the Inner Harbor
Studios.
Yeah, it's a little bit of skiphappens this afternoon, but
we're actually in the radiostation Inner Harbor Media 92.1.
The Wolf.
Thank you for checking in.
The door opens.
The sky was getting dark.
This guy came in and said yougot to get me out of the storm.
Yeah, but no, but Ken Dimashright, did I say that right?
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Oh my gosh, it's Ken Dimash.
Oh my gosh, yes, you did.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Be careful how you say that.
Yeah, exactly, it's good to seeyou, my friend, great to be
here.
Welcome to Syracuse, thank you.
Have you ever been to this areabefore?
No didn't think so.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
No, and I just, I literally just came in, followed
the follow.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
GPS put the address and I gave you earlier and said
didn't yeah turn right turn left, it's yeah, I haven't even had
a chance.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
All I did was have the do you um?
Speaker 1 (00:51):
do you have like?
Oh, it was raining on the wayin pouring yeah, yeah, it's
coming you know, um, this willbe posted probably during the
concert with hardy or after theshow, but still, I know
something that that's what wegot to look forward to in a
little bit.
It's a great show coming up,but let's talk about you a
little bit.
Where are you from?
St Louis, missouri Cardinals?
(01:11):
Fan, of course it's not achoice, because we're all on the
same page.
Okay, all right, I don't know ifI'm allowed to interview you.
Then here we're the Mets, theYankees or the Giants or the
Bills, depending on what time ofthe year it is when I say I'm a
fan, I like going.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
I don't get into the whole rivalry thing I have no
big stake in that and, as mykids even joke, it's like we
hardly get to games because I'musually into music or any kind
of art or other stuff.
Cool, I love going.
Yeah, how long have you beenplaying?
I picked this up like 16 yearsago.
Really yeah, yeah, I was agrown up, I had everything, all
(01:57):
different.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Right there with you, my friend.
Yeah, you make that turn andyou don't go back, oh yeah, and
then I saw music.
Yeah, so it's been a big changefor you.
Yeah, I mean because, obviously, being you know a little bit
older than a lot of people whenthey pick up the guitar, uh, I'm
sure you had a job, I'm sureyou were doing all this other
stuff, and then you went.
You know, I'm loving music andI want to be happy, so you went
(02:19):
down that road yes and no.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
So, like in 2009, you know, I I just out of
happenstance discovered um thatyou know I was at a wedding.
How much I want, how much youwant to hear I was I was at a
wedding.
Weddings are always fun yeah,and the lady was like, hey, sing
a song, kenny.
It was a very small weddingwith um it was, everybody was
from ireland, so they were very,they had their guitars out and
(02:42):
it was very all that was goingon and she's like sing a song
and I had never sang a song inmy life.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
So I sang an eldest song a little bit.
He goes you should sing you'dlove me.
Yeah, I forget, was that?
Was it that?
Oh, what was it?
You don't recall?
I figured at a wedding.
Maybe I can't help falling inlove or love me tender.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Now I guess my hands shaking my knees weak.
I can't seem to stand on my owntwo feet.
Who do you think of when you'vehad such luck?
I'm in love.
Ooh, I'm all shook up.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Okay, Kevin, Okay, Kevin yeah that was it but that
was pretty good too, you pulledit, I know.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but that waspretty good.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
So you fully I know.
Yeah, then you can shut me upfrom then on.
No, no, it's so true, though.
It's like us in radio we walkout on stage and we don't know
what we're gonna say, but theminute we open our mouth,
everything like, then you don'tshut up, right, right but it's,
all good stuff.
So I imagine, when you startplaying, you don't stop well,
yeah, I mean it's also um.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
So I had no, I'd never sang in front of anybody
ever before that.
So I did that.
And then, um, and then I wentand I started taking my daughter
to take piano lessons.
So then I got a guitar andstarted taking guitar lessons
and it was, you know, it wasfunny.
The guy's like, well, you'relearning really quickly, but you
know, don't expect us tocontinue at your age.
(04:03):
You know it's's like that's aninsult.
I know I was like dude, I wasstarting to get it.
So I went to another teacherthere I was like I don't want to
stick with somebody that'stelling me that's the, the wall.
And the same thing happened theother guy's like man, you're
really getting this quickly, butdon't expect this to continue.
I'm like what is?
Am I being punked?
Speaker 1 (04:22):
you know, I know seriously.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
So I went.
I had like four or fivedifferent teachers as I was
working my way through with mydaughter's lessons and anyway, I
could go on, but I don't know.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
No, no, no, no, that's good, that's good, it's a
.
He made that decision to godown that road doing your thing,
and I think if somebody told me, uh well, you're only going to
learn so much because you're soold, I'd be like you know,
that's all my reason.
I'm going to show you that Ican do this.
So, yeah, exactly.
Um, how much of your music isdrawn from real life experiences
(04:53):
?
Speaker 2 (04:54):
I'd say, uh well, all of it, but they're not all real
life experiences.
If that makes any sense.
So you channel yourself into afeeling that you might
understand, but you might nothave exactly lived.
Gotcha and I got you.
So, uh like, the last song inthe album is called without
living, which is about you knowall these.
(05:14):
I wouldn't know the price Ipaid, I wouldn't know the last,
you just wouldn't know, and thenyou've lived life.
So the fun part about cominginto music now is just so much
to draw on.
There's like I was just atanother spot and they were like
that should be a song.
You know I'm like, yeah, you'reright and I was talking about,
you know, uh, you know, lettingan album out in a couple months.
(05:35):
That's just about my daughterand how she you know he's like
15 or so.
You're just so scared to letthem grow up.
You start to feel like, oh no,right, oh no, she's growing up
and it was so cute when they'reseven having dinner and getting
ice cream and all that stuff,and it was like, and I captured
that in a song and we actuallyused it at her wedding I got, oh
(05:57):
wow, there to it.
Oh my gosh never released it.
I'm finally releasing it onHalloween of this year through a
different label.
I'm like, yeah, let's do itokay.
But that's like, yeah, yeah, no, I get it an experience, uh.
And then there's others thatare um, I mean, I came back from
being out with my buddies at abar and we just had a great time
.
We just we were just having ablast.
(06:19):
And I came home and I took myguitar out and I just started
playing it down in the basementand my wife's's like you know,
just kind of like you know, I'mgoing to town, right.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
All right.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
I don't know if I can just jump in.
But the song is called SaddleUp.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Saddle Up.
That's what she said to meSaddle Up.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
And it was this whole thing about being at a bar and
you know, and just theexcitement of it and this girl's
like let's go, I love it.
None of that happened, but itwas happening.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
It should be a song.
It is a song.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
It was all happening around me.
So it's like you're getting thevibe of the room and it's like
you could and there was suchfunny stupid stuff happening and
my wife comes back.
She's like you should recordthat I don't like you should
listen to her.
Yeah, the funniest part was talkabout not knowing what you're
doing, but just doing it.
Um, I was on my way tonashville and my wife's like do
(07:16):
you even know how songs aresupposed to be shaped?
And I'm like, uh, I, uh, Inever really thought about it.
She's like you're, you're goingto nash, nashville and you
don't even know.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Well, you're going to learn.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
And I so like that particular song.
She just was like yeah, there'sa verse, there's a chorus, then
there's another verse, usuallymaybe a bridge, and I'm like, oh
, so I rearranged it.
I'm like, thank you, and one ofthe songs which was about her I
was writing on the road, butit's like that kind of impromptu
stuff.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
But she knew all that yeah so how okay, you just
answered my question she knows,she knows music all right she's
not involved with it at all, butshe was telling you you are a
musician.
I wasn't told I was, but she'ssaying how you should shape the
song yeah, right, okay, whichwas huge, okay, all right, it's
good.
It's good, I'm not sayinganything.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
I think it's good to get that advice yeah, I mean,
the funniest part is I wastalking to somebody maybe this
morning or yesterday who wasasking about, you know, the
songwriting and they werementioning how so many artists
are very particular about theirsong and they don't want people
to kind of give that input orthey don't want to.
It's like, hey, this is my songand I'm like no, I don't know
(08:27):
what I'm doing.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
If you have a good idea, bring it here.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
And this last album.
It was so funny I never knew.
This whole time everybody kindof assumed that.
So you're in studio with thebest musicians on the planet and
they think I have an eagle,maybe like no, no far from it.
I don't know if I've ever giventhat vibe, but I had this guy in
the room with the producer andthey're like well, how much help
do you want?
(08:51):
I mean, how I go, I want all ofit.
It's like I'm what.
It's like we.
We're trying to make a hit.
How do we do?
Help me, help me.
And there, and it was thecoolest thing, I'm in the studio
singing and they're like drawyour vowels, dude.
And it was the coolest thing.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
I'm in the studio singing and they're like draw
your vowels and it was thecoolest thing they were teaching
me yeah, how to sing my ownsongs and you're not the only
artist that has told me thatreally going to.
No, they.
They get these professionalmusicians, studio musicians or
vocalists, even in thebackground vocals.
Uh, just to help you out in theadvice they give you, and you
know, they've been there,they've been on hit records,
they're doing all that.
They know right what you wantand how to tell you how to do it
(09:29):
right.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
I've heard that from a few few different artists,
taking me a minute yeah tofigure that out but I don't know
.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
I'm hearing good stuff, so that's cool
whereabouts in nashville.
Do you record?
Speaker 2 (09:40):
oh well, that's an interesting thing too.
I've tried.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
I forget all the names yeah, there's so many, of
course, which oh yeah, okay, ohcool okay that was I actually
slept there, stayed like a weekit's like these old homes that
are built into studios big lodgeof a home.
Yeah, I do see, I don't knowwhether or not our viewers know
that or not and you, maybe youcould tell a little bit about it
as well.
Uh, I've done broadcasts fromnashville's from nashville and
(10:05):
uh, for example, the cmas, andthey set you up in these
recording studios that areactually old homes and the way
they've been, you know,soundproofed, and that the
bedrooms are now vocal booths,so on and so forth.
It's amazing.
Maybe the living room churches?
Yeah, it's.
You'll be driving down the roadnot even realize that.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Oh my god that's a studio, the last one we just did
.
They have millions of dollarsof gear in the in this studio
right it looks like an old shed.
Like you're driving down theroad, there's a shed just no
idea you walk in and it's likeoh, they're like yeah, we don't
really want people to know well,that may, that's a good point.
(10:44):
This is here and it was not inthe heart of Nashville, so the
first one was in Franklin.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
That was just outside Yep, first time I ever recorded
.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
It was awesome, just like you described.
You'd go into one room.
The fiddler was in the hallwaybut there's plugins everywhere.
Yes, and they would givedifferent sounds.
The the drummer, of course, isin a isolated room.
The vocal booth is an isolatedroom, but it was just in the the
guitar player, the bass player,always out in the open, kind of
thing.
So it's literally like livingin a movie when you're doing it.
(11:11):
So that was amazing.
It's amazing and um, and thelast one, like I said, was in a,
in, a, uh, a shed, but morerecently, and I say last one,
when we went to do the vocals, Iwent to the producer's house.
Oh, wow.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
So to your point.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then we went to do thevocals.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
I went to the producer's house, oh wow.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
So to your point.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
And then we went over to do some of the lead guitar
licks and we went to his house.
He has a studio.
Everybody in Nashville hastheir own studio in their house
now, and when I say studio forthe guitar player, it was the
breezeway from the garage intothe house.
They just use it.
That's it.
They just need the amp in acloset.
Yep, and he's just sittingthere on the steps rocking out
(11:48):
the licks.
I'm like this is the coolest,craziest thing I've ever seen in
my life and so now we've goneaway from that movie feeling
exactly exactly and it'schanging even more now, like
wish you wouldn't go, isrecorded entirely differently
than anything I've ever recorded.
Yeah, it was, tell me about it.
(12:10):
Yeah, it was a guy with akeyboard.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Laid down the entire sound.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Really.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Yeah, it was really weird to say.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Like a track at a time.
Oh, okay, all right.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Like the backing track.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Okay, then they did it.
Oh okay, all right, like thebacking track.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Okay, exactly and all right going in and everybody
goes right, and then they andthey start going and everybody's
going like thunder which iswhat you see in the movies.
But this was like here's trackand I was like it was so funny.
I I'm like dude, I can't singit to this.
It's like I don't get thetiming.
What are you doing?
He was like oh, you need tomake the chorus longer and I go
(12:47):
now I've got to add to it.
It's gonna be like a year and ahalf to write this song.
We're recording in two daysbecause you'll get it I mean you
got it and he, because he'slike it, feels better to have
that.
I'm like okay, because I saidhelp me, and he goes for me to
do that chord transition.
It'd be a little better, itwasn't pushy, he was just cool.
(13:07):
So we did and I made it and itmade it made it better.
But the point was he had it allthere and it was so weird to
sing to Cause I kept going.
It sounds just like a beercommercial.
I heard I go, I can't even singand they put everybody else on
it.
So it was.
It was weird when I was singingit and then when I finally
(13:28):
heard it, they added and andeverybody gets the track right,
and they did it at their placeand then they bring it all
together all together it's likevoila and that's what we hear.
Yeah, and then I'm reacting toit going could you pull down the
guitar?
Can we those harmony vocalshard?
No, and just that kind of stuffuntil it all gets evened out
yeah, and then you give it tomastering and then they make it
(13:49):
just right.
So when you turn it on yourradio, you, you hear it.
You need to turn that down toowell, yeah we can.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Yeah, I don't know if you can hear it through the mic
, but uh, you know, becausewe're on a radio station.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Yeah, I know, I know, it just occurred to me.
Uh, I don't mean to interrupt,we're doing no, there's a little
knob on the right.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
No other way.
Oh, that's better.
Oh yeah, look at that.
Thank you, reagan's there yeahno, we're all you know.
This is.
This is the real deal.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
This is the real deal I started hearing that song
when we were talking.
I was like I just started tolike a squirrel and I'm like
what's?
That I heard that snare inthere and you're talking about
listening to music, and I wasjust starting.
Well, if you did.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
If we did this podcast at the skip happen
studio, which is in my house,you'd have a yellow lab jumping
up on your lap.
You would have maybe pop andhear me popping a beer over in
the other corner.
You know, I mean it works.
I know, and that was theoriginal plan.
You know everything is changing.
What is your?
Ken Dimash is who I'm chattingwith.
He's the new independent artist, but not some great music at
(14:58):
the album coming out.
But what?
What is your biggest challengeas a musician, as a newer
musician?
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Wow, and as an old man, yeah, I mean, I only said
that as's a joke, that's been,that's been.
I mean, honestly, goodness, youlook at it and it's like how is
that, uh, the rhyming, and I'mwatching like parker mccullum or
something that play, and I'mjust like going and that guy
could kick my butt so fast.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
You know, just like going, that young, strong, it's
like when I was 27, you'd stillkick my butt yeah, but it's like
yeah, right, right, I'm going?
Speaker 2 (15:28):
how do you even compete with all these super?
You know, handsome, attractiveyoung you know and I go ah, it's
like that tv show where shegets hit and she's like I have
more insurance, like you havethese stories right you're a
storyteller and it's like, oh,so it took me a minute to get my
head around that like legit.
Um.
As far as challenges, um,that's, that's kind of an
(15:51):
advantage.
My, my inability to stop is areally big benefit.
You know, it's like I don'treally figure out why I'm doing
all this stuff, but I mean, thebiggest challenge is that it is
I'm an independent artist right,it's tough, but that means he's
doing it all by himself.
Yeah, and if you, if you're anindependent artist, there's just
(16:11):
insurmountable hills and wallsand gates.
That you're just.
You know, and I, as I wastalking to one of the fellows
when I, you know, in 2010,recording and I didn't realize,
you know, these were just famouspeople that I didn't know were
famous, like they were playingwith john mayer and they were
doing right, I didn't know themokay, I'm having these
(16:33):
conversations like I, you knowit's like my neighbor or
something right, and then I findout later I'm like, oh, kind of
a big deal.
I wouldn't have been able to domy album if I knew I was around
better.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
It was much better, yes, but I was just telling the
guy.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
I'm like, I'm just looking for that one loose brick
to get some daylight in thiswall, you know.
So streaming is really hard topenetrate as an independent
artist.
There's just access todifferent distribution, um, but
you're looking at something no,no, no, no, I'm.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
I'm agreeing with you and there's a lot and there's a
lot of good about being anindependent artist.
You don't have that 70 30 splitwith the label, which a lot of
people don't understand.
That's a lot to do with money,how you got to pay back so much
before you can even make.
You know they think wow, he'shad a song on the radio.
He went top 10.
Oh my goodness, he man, he Ibet she's driving a great car
(17:24):
and he's got a beautiful home.
Uh, no yeah, I've watched allthose documentaries just the
opposite yep, exactly, they'rebasically an employee and
they're getting a loan to do allof that and it's a business and
you're being told what to do,to a certain extent, by some of
these label execs cool.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
It does look good, right though.
I mean I'm jealous, it's likethey're, but they've got the
machine to put together a show.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
That's a lot of work but you can, as an independent
artist.
You control what you make, youcontrol the shows you do, you
control the music that you'reputting out for sure you'll have
a team behind you.
I mean, you got people workingthe radio and working press
release and you know mediaaspect of it all.
But um, it's not.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
You know you, you have the overall say yes, but
the the breadth of it is, youknow, without the major label
it's just so hard to penetrateand I'm sure you know you get it
like the certain.
Just so what do you do?
You know, you try to do themost amazing job you can within
the yards you can get into, youknow?
(18:26):
I mean, it's like so and that'sexactly what I'm doing.
So I'm touring radio, going tostations that will it's what we
call a radio tour yeah, and yougo station to station, you meet
the people that are making thedecisions and let me go get that
person.
Just kidding, no, no, no, Iknow I'm kidding and they get to
know you and it's like it'salmost no different than, you
(18:47):
know, an artist being discoveredby a label who then has the
relationship to say this thisone's great.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
How do you, you know, doing what you do, there's a
lot of negativity, there's a lotof like, well, I mean, you get
a lot of no's.
Okay, all right, is that?
I mean, I've talked to otherNashville artists and and the
question I ask it's a prettycommon one how do you handle
criticism?
How do you handle it as anartist when somebody says you
(19:15):
know, ken, yeah, you're reallygood, but you're not what I'm
looking for.
You know what I mean?
Something like that?
Then you kind of I know, if itwas me it'd be like I shut the
door and leave and I'd be upset,but you've got to be able to
handle that Right.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Yeah, and I here's a funny thing.
So my wife always laughs at meabout.
She's like why do you thinkeverybody loves you?
You know, and, and, and.
Even when people treat me badly, I, she, has to remind me of
who those bad players are in mylife.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
You know it in my life, you know it's like don't,
don't, don't end up this way, orlike so, and so yeah, you know,
and uh, and I and I just thinkit's so funny.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
so why do you think everybody loves you?
And in my head, um, I have aquick funny story.
When I was in high school gradeschool or high school, I think,
first year high school I was intrack.
I was fast, I was scrappy, fastlittle runner, and it was a
hundred yard dash and I'm inthis race.
I run it fastest time I everhad.
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Crushed it, came in last placeJust barely, just like fast.
I mean, it was like how did Inot win this?
Go over my dad in the stands.
I'm like, did you see that?
And he's like, yeah, did you.
He did you.
He goes, you lost right.
I'm like, yeah, but you see howwell I came in last and that
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was like our joke forever.
He's just, it was just a funnything of I get it.
You know it's like my dad.
You know, as long as my dadthought it was something you
know and he gets, that was myturns out.
Maybe like five years ago.
I found out that race becausemy friend won it.
That race was the day that heset the record hasn't been
beaten.
I just happened to be.
That race was the day that heset the record Hasn't been
beaten.
I just happened to be in therace.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
The day that everybody ran faster than
anybody ever will.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Yeah, and I was right on.
It's like if he hadn't beenthere I'd be the guy.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Look at the numbers.
Don't look at what happenedwith the race, no, no, but look
at your numbers.
It was the best you ever did.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
So, as far as you know, people telling you your
bad stuff, even though he didcome in last.
But that's all right, but maybeyou just try not to hear it.
You know, I hope, because whenyou're saying it, I'm having a
stretch.
I've had such great experienceswith like everybody in radio has
been so amazing, and I mean alot of stations that don't play
me, I don't, it doesn't evencompute, but I'm still, I'm
visiting, I'm having a greattime, yeah, so yeah, I don't
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know if I answered that you didwell, hopefully, or not not
really, but you did well.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Yeah, you kind of.
No, I'll kid, I kid around alot, yeah.
So, and I I think you alreadyrealize that, uh, it's my
personality and and I like yourpersonality and I like what you
got going.
Um, if you weren't playingmusic, what do you think you'd
be doing?
Let me guess, were you a schoolteacher.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
No, I've never done that um, but I could.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
I would love to teach art really, yeah, I'm trying to
think what, uh, now I give up.
What would you be?
Why?
Speaker 2 (22:00):
I do, I have another whole all right, what's your
other game?
My other gig, yeah here we go.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Give me a clue it's art related.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
It's artistically related you sculptures.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
I wish I would love to do that too um, it's a really
good guess.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
It's art related, kind of artsy cartoon I'm good
at that, but that's not iteither.
Yeah, last one let's ask reaganhelp me, how'd you?
Guess that architect.
How'd you know that?
Yeah, how did you?
Oh, okay how did you get that?
Speaker 1 (22:37):
she guessed architect , because she's a.
Yes, I've been out of collegefor a lot of years.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
She just graduated yeah, you nailed it.
So, yeah, no, I'm a full-onarchitect so you design
buildings, I design buildings,spaces, and I never here's a
funny thing, I never went toschool for it, so you have that.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
You know that printing I can do that, no way
really well, I have a funnystory on it.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
So I went to school to study design, right?
Speaker 1 (23:07):
yeah, okay and this is funny if I can tell the story
it's all good it's all good,we're good, nobody's listening
well, they will be, but that'sokay in school.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
I would do all the design work for this one girl in
the school okay and she woulddo all my handwriting because I
couldn't do it okay so it's likethis cheating scheme we had
because you had.
So it's like this cheatingscheme we had because you had to
do the first job.
I get this architectural firm.
I had to do all the handwriting.
I was like, oh no, I hadcheated my way through school
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and never did it.
I'm really good at the designstuff.
So I had to learn that, like ina week, so anyway, yeah, I do.
So that's cool, man.
Yeah, the architecture thinghas been week, so anyway, yeah,
I do so.
So that's cool man.
Yeah, the architecture thinghas been um, and if I wasn't
doing that, because I've beendoing that, I was gonna do magic
as a lifetime profession.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Really, yeah, I had been um see, I'm amazed by that
as well.
I have some friends that reallydeep into the magic magicians,
and even though we're goodfriends, he still will not yeah
certain secrets tv so yeah yeah,yeah, I, I know, I know, I know
I get it, but that's amazing.
Well, good for you, man.
I had a blast with that.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
That was in all of this.
Just to give you an example ofit, like when I'm doing these uh
goofy tchotchkes as marketing,yeah I love this, by the way.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
I don't know if, um, you can see it, but uh, I don't
know if you can see it, but Idon't wish you wouldn't go radio
.
Yeah, w W Y G.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
It's all over here, WG.
It's a W.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Oh you wouldn't go W Y WG 109.3.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Which does not exist on the dial.
No, that's why it says I have awhole YouTube page and my dad
would always say, when I wasdoing magic shows, he's like,
like kenny, you need a themebecause he had done in theater
and stuff, you need a theme,kenny.
So you know, magic isn't enoughof a theme.
You know, boom birds, it's likeall, oh, a coin disappeared, oh
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, I'm linking rings.
It's like, what's the theme?
Why magic is?
I get it, but beyond that, whatcould it be?
So I would do shows that werebreak dancing.
I was doing shows like a waiterand everything was with the
money in the tabletop candlesand yeah yeah I
just always had a theme to it.
And for music, same thing.
It's like how do you promote asong like, wish you wouldn't go
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and I'm, and it's just well.
What do you do?
Send people tissues, or youknow how do you get a.
So the tchotchke became let'smake up a radio station.
That is that, that idea.
So the whole magic thing, thearchitectural, the drawing, all
of that has just taken on awhole different meaning with
music.
So that's, that's like another.
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When I found that, I was likewhat is music about?
because that was always magic tome, music is never understood
how people could just sit in aroom and all start playing
together.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
It's magic, it is music is magic to it and it's
the universal language foreverybody music.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Music brings everybody together yes, yes and
I did and I never had that.
So I did, um, when I was doingthe magic stuff, I was going to
do that as a living and I hadcompeted.
I competed in Hawaii and I can,as becoming friends with people
in Japan.
Japan gave me this big award.
I was going to live in Japanand it was like getting what you
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know it's like.
This is a whole different thingand I'm.
I just said I don't think I'mgoing to survive this.
It was just you know it's like.
What kind of a life do you want?
It was what I had to decide,and so doing this music is
almost like all right, I'vegrown up, we've raised some kids
and and here you go, do this,do it now, baby, I'm loving it,
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yeah yeah, how many kids three,wow yeah girls, boys, one
daughter who got married, and Ihave a song that's coming out
this halloween okay, yeah, youmentioned that I cannot wait.
It's called butterfly girl andit's just about your daughter
growing up, and well you know Iimmediately had a throwback to
butterfly kisses somebody elsesaid that too.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Yeah, that was a good song, but uh, bob carlisle did
it and it was about, you know,walking down watching her grow,
and then she walks down theaisle.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Oh, you're kidding I didn't know how the song went.
Is it seriously?
Well, I think it busted forcopyright.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
No, no, no, no, but I'd like that and you know
what's funny and, as a father ofthree daughters, I'll be sure
to listen to this, it's.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
I mean, it's just, it's just such, I mean my
daughters are groaning.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
They've given me like eight grandkids, so wow, yeah,
I haven't had that.
Now you're going.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Oh, you are old I know, yeah, you're a lot older
than I am.
Yeah, look how old he is, andhe's working radio.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
He showed me doing that, he's old.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Why is he doing it now um?
Is there somebody else in here?
Questions oh it keeps youexcited, keeps you young I no,
it does 100%.
You know it's like I am runninga race.
Like you know, I'm the guythat's trying to run in the
Olympics.
It's like you're too old to bein the Olympics.
Well, you know why not.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Well, there's a lot of reasons why not for that.
So we're talking to independentartist Ken Dimash.
I said that, right, right, yeah, ken Dim.
To uh independent artist kendimash I said that, right, right
, yeah, ken dimash.
Okay, okay, and uh, wish youwouldn't go is the single.
You know I love the coffee mugsand when you came in and you
know you were handed out a fewof these.
I said that is so clever, justthe whole idea, and it kind of
goes with you being an architect.
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Because now, as my mind startsturning and thinking about
everything you've been sayingand what you do and what you're
going to do, I said, yeah,definitely Good choice.
Yeah, putting it all together.
So so the single is Wish youWouldn't Go.
Yeah, and I will.
I know we're going to hear that, but I would also.
I'm going to attach the actualstudio version to this video.
(28:45):
So well, you know, becauseyou're old.
No, no, I'm only, no, no, I'monly kidding, I'm only kidding
but uh, you know, I say that toeverybody because it's one thing
, doing it acoustic yeah, I loveacoustic it's another thing
being on the internet and itkind of takes away from the
sound a little bit.
When it comes to music it does,unless you know, if you're
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doing it live, like we're doingthis, um, it takes away from it.
So I want, I want people not Iwant them to see you and hear
you play it, but then I alsowant to expose them to the
actual studio version and you'llgo damn, this is good well, and
also I mean it's good anyways,because the guitar only gets
Speaker 2 (29:23):
so much so much of the sound yep, and.
But it also is where they allstart.
Like you know all the songs youdo, I just sent one for our
next album going in in the nextmonth to record for next year,
and I, I like, sent in the track.
I'm like going all right, we're, we're in a safe spot.
We've been doing this a minuteright I didn't even think before
(29:45):
I hit send, but don't ever letthat circulate anywhere because
it's so bad, you know.
And then a songwriting friendof mine bless her soul, man, she
, uh, she put one out with me onit and I'm like, and it's like
showing up everywhere and it waslike that was a first take,
quick idea for what your songcould be and she put it out
there like, what are you doing?
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There's like nothing on that,oh my gosh.
But at the same time, I love it.
My favorite is getting on theair and just totally doing an
awful job and messing up well,it makes it more memorable
absolutely yeah.
When you're driving down theroad and you hear somebody
totally mess up, it's good andyou're gonna want to hear it
again.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
I, yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Yeah, exactly yeah, your meme is forgetting your, uh
, your own lyrics, which I doall the time that's embarrassing
oh, it's not.
You make up new ones as you goand nobody would know the
difference.
Oh, they do.
They got the special in personedition I was doing all right
you know how hard it is to gofrom that conversation I know, I
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know something all sentimental.
We need a better segue.
All right, well, um tosomething all sentimental.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
We need a better segue, all right.
Well, what can we do to make ita better segue?
Speaker 2 (30:54):
I guess we can tell them what the song's about.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Yeah, that'll bring us emotionally involved,
relationship-based.
And there he is.
Ladies and gentlemen, Ken DeVos, Wish you wouldn't go.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
You got your reasons.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
I know, maybe I didn't let it show, but you're
the most important part of me.
Maybe I could have done thingsa little differently.
(31:32):
So if you want a drink, let'sdrink.
If you want to love me, ifyou're gonna leave, just leave
real slow, cause I don't wantthis to be be be just another
(31:53):
memory.
Baby, if you're gonna leave,just leave real slow.
But I wish you wouldn't go.
Wish you wouldn't go.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Can't we just talk no strings.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
Maybe we'd laugh about all kinds of stupid things
.
God knows I've done a few.
You know I'd never hurt you.
I'd never hurt you.
So if you wanna drink, let'sdrink.
If you wanna love, love me.
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But if you're gonna leave, justleave.
Feel slow, cause I don't wantthis to be, just another memory.
I wish you would know If we wentour own separate ways, if I
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gave you all kinds of space.
If you want to drink, let'sdrink.
If you want to drink, let'sdrink.
If you want to love, love me.
But if you're gonna leave, justleave real slow, cause I don't
want this to be Just anothermemory.
Baby, if you're gonna leave,just leave real slow.
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But I wish you would go.
You're gonna leave, just toleave me feel slow, but I wish
you wouldn't go, wish youwouldn't go, wish you wouldn't
go.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
Don't go Wow.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Yeah, it took me a minute to get into there.
Oh wow, but you got it.
Dude Boy, is that what wethought?
Yeah, yeah, sorry, hi Wow wow,thank you.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Yeah, I mean I would assume that's the reaction you
get from about every every radioperson you go in front of,
because it's music like thatthat will turn heads and will
make listeners turn that volumeup and uh go wow.
Either they're going throughsomething or something is about
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to happen they know it or theywant somebody to know how they
feel that is going to be thesong that's going to do it,
thank you.
Now I need a tissue, wow.
You know what If somebody saysno, but you get emotional.
You're not pulling a chain, no,no, well, no, because if you
can pull on those heartstrings,you've got yourself a hit.
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Beautiful you do, and that wasserious when we were starting.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
It's so funny I don't know.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
What's he laughing at ?
He's singing a song.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
You can't even get into the song, you know, and I'm
like messing up the song.
I'm like what the joke?
I didn't know, and then youstart to get into it, then I
forget I'm, and then it's hard,like some of these songs, like
when I recorded that I wascrying in the recording, like it
was like falling while I sang.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
I believe it.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
It's hard to sing the songs.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
And that Butterfly Girl.
I am a mess.
Can you do one verse of theButterfly Girl, Just one verse.
I'm not going to ask you toreveal the whole song because I
know you don't want to.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Oh no, I get it.
I got to get my head in.
All right, hold on, I can't getmy head around.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
You can do it, though it's Ken Dimash Used to walk,
used to talk, used to laugh alot, used to hold my hand across
in the parking lot Sign of thecross.
As you go to sleep, I pray togod for your soul to keep.
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It'll be so hard to let you go,girl.
You're my butterfly girl.
You're my butterfly girl.
You're my butterfly girl.
Flying away, flying away.
(36:42):
Delicate wings, delicate wings.
Staying up late and playingsongs was our favorite thing by
the truck headlight man.
She could really sing, justlike words in the air.
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They float away.
I close my eyes, so in my mindshe'd stay.
I close my eyes so in my mindshe'd stay.
It'll be so hard to let her go.
She's my butterfly girl.
She's my butterfly girl.
She's my butterfly girl.
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She'll find a way.
She'll find a way away Ondelicate wings, delicate wings.
You're so beautiful as youspread your wings, you're out on
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your all just fluttering andyou're just beyond my reach.
Your colors in the sunlight arecoming back to me, coming back
to me.
So my butterfly girl, oh mybutterfly girl, my butterfly
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girl, my butterfly girl, flyingaway, flying away On delicate
wings.
Delicate wings Used to walk,used to talk, used to laugh a
lot, used to hold my handcrossing the parking lot.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
Wow, dude, I didn't ask you to play the whole thing.
Sorry, I couldn't stop and Ididn't want you to stop.
Thank you, I didn't look up.
I would have.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
I'm already.
Please, no, please, I'm justI'm, I'm just yeah and uh, so
much closer to your mind, dude,I know the feeling, being the
dad of daughters, uh, althoughmine are already past the point
of getting married and you knowhaving families of their own
dance with.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
My daughter had her wedding.
That song, yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
So all of it just means anyway dude being here
mean so much, uh, getting achance to play that stuff and
having wow, yes, yes, and thiswill be posted here real quick
um, what's the first concert youever attended?
First concert I ever we'regonna change the attitude here a
little bit, we're gonna justhappen.
You do that.
Yeah, he likes to have fun, butI know, I know, I know.
So, uh, yeah, I'm verysentimental, you know.
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Yeah, well, I am too be carefulwith me.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
I'm very breakable, you know.
Uh, aside from this toughexterior, oh, yeah, yeah, pink
shirt on uh, my first concert,oh my gosh, oh, oh well, I'll
tell you what I think it wasokay, not really a concert.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
All right, I went to go see andrew dice clay oh, so I
was standing behind.
It won't go there.
It won't go there.
He did some elvis, though, oh Icould see him doing that.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
Oh man, he shook, he shook he yeah, he's got that
voice, he was I mean that's whatjust strikes me as the first,
uh, the next, the other, theother concert.
My first real concert was a DefLeppard concert.
All right, and my best friendgot us in with some scalp
tickets.
Turns out they weren't real andwe got kicked out before Def
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Leppard came on stage.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
Well, that's a memory .
Speaker 2 (40:24):
Yeah, yeah, we're out in the car and I'm like you,
idiot.
And they were like you have thewrong seats.
I like you have the wrong seats.
I was like let's get up andmove.
He's like no, these are ours.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
It's like no, we're going out of the building now.
Way to go.
Thanks, buddy dude.
All right, what's your go-tokaraoke song?
Oh, I don't care, okay, allright, uh, I'll tell you one
thing though.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
No, no, I tried to do a karaoke song okay, uh at my
son's college and I I I lovedoing.
Um, I won't play because I'vebeen playing up too much a Dua
Lipa song, oh okay levitating.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
Yes, yes, my guitar.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
I mix it in with.
I do a lot of mashes like thedo mash yeah, and I'll mix in
old town road and Dua Lipa, soI'm like I'll do Dua Lipa.
They started playing it.
It was in her key.
That didn't work too well.
That's what I'm not doinganymore karaoke.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
You can't.
Oh, my god, that's so funny.
Bucket list of places you'dlike to play, but happens oh man
, that's like uh, what I need atruck, a wheelbarrow.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
There's so many places I haven't played.
I have been working on thecraft of songwriting, producing,
getting out there, trying toget songs that people know.
Know to collect enough songs toplay big venues, but you know
bridgestone arena red rocks.
I'll give you my favoritechoice okay my favorite yes,
right here, my favorite uh thingto accomplish would be to play
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at the fox theater in st louis,which is where I saw dice clay
yeah and I did a magiccompetition there okay, way back
, so it's like going full circle.
I love it.
Yeah, I love a theater feelbecause it's more of a stand-up
comedy show like you and I aredoing.
And then you break into thisacoustic on a stool type of show
.
That's my goal.
Didn't want to put it out thereand mess it up.
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That's all good.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
Coffee or whiskey before a show.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
Yeah, what?
Or whiskey before a show?
Speaker 1 (42:15):
yeah, what coffee?
Coffee or whiskey.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
Before a show put your hands together we got this,
we got the whiskey.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
I don't I rarely will drink before love it during a
show um.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
I've had all my buddies that are doing it.
I'll be like you're in thewrong key.
Oh, you're in the wrong room atthis point, so I don't drink at
all live performance.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
If fans and these are certain quickies I wrote down
if fans could describe you inone word, what would you hope?
Speaker 2 (42:40):
it is fun, perfect, perfect, perfect boots or
sneakers I bought, I brought myboots and I brought my sneakers.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
I know I gotta wear my favorite sneakers.
Oh, no, no, hey, dudes, no, no,that's good, it's good, I love
them, love them, love them howmany of those can you buy.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
You have to buy a lot because you know what they do.
Spoiler alert I power wash mine.
You can't make them not smelldude, I power wash my.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
I have what they call canes.
They're not hey dudes, butstill they're like clogs, but
they're the full and I powerwash them.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
Yes, I do like the third power, wash their toast.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
You can't get a lot of that point.
You can't get a lot out of it,but it's like they look brand
new.
Yeah, but they feel so good, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
Now boots are super comfortable.
All right, they're morecomfortable than.
So if you're going out, yeahyeah, if you're going out to all
the bars and national booths,the booths you go and go see
your nephew, or something.
Yeah, hey, dudes Right.
Speaker 1 (43:37):
Oh, hey dudes, hey dudes, hey dudes are everywhere.
I got you.
Check out the canes if youhaven't.
But yeah, so that easy, or KenDimash?
Speaker 2 (43:49):
music.
If you go to Dimash music,it'll take you to Ken Dimash.
Okay, okay, I just kept that,because that's what I started
with and then I realized well,nobody has a name Ken Dimash
either.
All the socials just have KenDimash and streaming.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
You know what you?
When I hear butterfly,butterfly girl, you should
really.
Well, it's just me talking, butbeing the dad of three
daughters um, that song needs tobe marketed towards weddings.
I agree because if that gets ona site and and I know I've
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worked a lot of weddings in mylife, being who I am and what I
do that brides are looking forthat special song and a lot of
brides don't want something theyhear every day, yeah, and
they're going to hear that andgo oh my God, yeah, I want my
dad to listen to this.
I want, and I guarantee theyboth will be crying and I
guarantee that's going to be onthat playlist.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
The father daughter we're.
We're trying something new.
In October we have a label outof Germany that's going to
release I have our current album, 20 different routes just hit
over labor day, so it's just outthere, that's everywhere.
And then we're releasinganother five song album out of a
label out of Germany, whichincludes butterfly girls, on
November 14th.
Speaker 1 (45:05):
So I'm going to get it.
I'll tell you right now I'mgoing to.
I'm going to go get thatawesome, I'm definitely gonna
agree with you.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
I had to figure out how do I market it to weddings
and, uh, I agree, it's.
It's totally.
Speaker 1 (45:14):
Check out some of the wedding websites and there's so
many there's so many ladies,there are young women that are
trying to plan their weddingsand they don't know.
Speaker 2 (45:24):
You know music and wouldn't it be the funniest
things like.
Speaker 1 (45:26):
You try to figure out a formula of what's going to
work and you just writesomething that you love and
that's the one that works youknow, no, but then then they get
to know you, and now you putout some other stuff and it just
you know, it's one fan at atime and just continue to grow.
Speaker 2 (45:44):
I mean huge thank you to like my neighbors would walk
out while I'm going for a walkwith my wife and they'll come
out say Kenny, love the new songyou know and it's like my
wife's.
Speaker 1 (45:52):
They'll come out and say, Kenny, love the new song.
Speaker 3 (45:54):
It's so funny.
These are my neighbors.
Speaker 2 (45:56):
My wife's just like oh my gosh, are you going to
talk the whole time?
I'm like, yeah, I love this,this is great.
She's like do you have to talkto everybody?
I'm like I love people.
Speaker 1 (46:05):
I can see that because we hadn't met before
until you walked through thedoor.
Speaker 2 (46:10):
This is the neatest way to meet, so many people.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
I love it and I stage .
Speaker 2 (46:14):
By the way, you know you do this a lot.
You get to know everybody.
It's almost like an X.
You know times 10 of meetingand getting to be friends with
people by having a stage theythink they're just looking at
you, but it's like you're seeingall of them and you connect
with so many people.
It's super fun.
Speaker 1 (46:31):
It is super fun.
I look forward to connectingagain.
I know we have CRS in March.
Speaker 2 (46:38):
I've gone for 25 plus years, we just haven't ran into
each other.
Speaker 1 (46:42):
I've been at bar lines dude.
Speaker 2 (46:43):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (46:46):
Was it you?
Speaker 1 (46:46):
that called me when I fell off the stool.
Speaker 3 (46:49):
I don't know, you probably landed on me.
I was already on the ground.
Speaker 1 (46:54):
I've had some pretty rough I used to don't tell
anybody at bar lines, but I used.
Every year I went I'd take abar lines glass, I'd get my
drink and I have a collection ofthose you know most of my.
Those are the only ones thatlast yeah, yeah, they're the
thick glasses you get your beerin the dishwasher something
breaking by kicking on the edge.
Yeah, not those they are goingto get.
Speaker 2 (47:13):
I don't think you're the only one.
Speaker 1 (47:14):
It's like they're going.
Where did all the glasses go?
Oh, that guy from Syracuse musthave.
Speaker 2 (47:19):
Well, I didn't know.
Speaker 1 (47:20):
I love going to that, yeah, and I was in different
hotel rooms.
Speaker 2 (47:23):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (47:24):
Oh yeah, this year it's March.
Yes, anybody, that's anybody.
Speaker 2 (47:35):
Which is why we are going on October 20th to record,
and I'm going there in twoweeks to pre-discuss it, because
it's like I want to have arelease when you get there, when
everybody's there.
It's a lot of planning.
Speaker 1 (47:48):
Grassroots, who I know is.
You know, they're the promoters.
They're the promoters for thatand the promoters for radio, uh,
the best team in nashville whenit comes to promotion.
I mean there's a lot.
I mean there's a lot of goodones, don't get me wrong.
And I love nancy and the gangand everybody that works there
john um, but they do.
And shannon uh, such great andshout out to shannon um, yeah,
yep, just do a great job, do agreat job.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
I agree with you.
I, we, we did it in 2010.
I went to nashville.
I'd never done this and theysaid have you know, play a song?
And I played a song and youguys are like hats me on the
shoulders, like well, you'redone with the architecture, son.
I was like that's cool, andthey go see this.
They're pointing to billy raycyrus.
Yeah, yeah, that's why I wentto number one and I'm like I'll
(48:32):
start.
Speaker 3 (48:32):
I'm like awesome, awesome.
Speaker 1 (48:33):
What do I do?
Speaker 2 (48:34):
so they all helped me so I had a chance to work with
jack cry yeah, oh, I love jack.
Speaker 1 (48:39):
Oh, my god I agree with you.
Speaker 2 (48:41):
Now it's different.
Now it's like you have to pickone to go with.
Speaker 1 (48:43):
Yeah, but they had a lot of independence, and I've
worked with them all as well, soa lot of good friends you seem
to know many years, knoweverything, many years.
Speaker 2 (48:51):
You're a guy.
I need to pick your brain up.
You know, and I welcome.
Speaker 1 (48:53):
I'd like to pick your brain a little bit, but I've
been doing it a long time and myNashville connections are
strong.
Speaker 2 (48:59):
That's awesome.
People assume I have thembecause I'm older.
Speaker 1 (49:02):
But I'm just meeting everybody for the first time.
Little do they know you'reyounger than I am.
Speaker 2 (49:06):
You that when you, when you come in like later in
the game, you haven't burned anybridges not yet and you won't?
Speaker 1 (49:13):
I hope not and you won't, so I'm kind of grown up.
Speaker 2 (49:15):
I know I don't want to burn any bridges.
Speaker 1 (49:17):
I don't do experience .
You know how to cross thosebridges without burning them
even other artists.
You know, I've met and then soforth.
Speaker 2 (49:23):
I'll call them and I'm like, just complaining about
my life problems, that I'm, andthey're like, oh, I can
actually talk to you and we talk.
And then they'll call me on hey, I'm going to Nashville,
anybody you can suggest I playwith.
I'm like, yeah, I play withsomeone, and it's not like I'm
trying to compete and beat them.
It's like now I'm almost likethis grown-up dad going you're
really good, how can I help you?
(49:44):
And hopefully it all comes backor doesn't, doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (49:47):
Thank you, You're awesome dude.
Speaker 2 (49:49):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (49:50):
Thank you for coming to the Syracuse, thank you for
coming into our historic innerharbor media broadcasting
facility and all the stationsand all that.
But thank you for being hereand thank you for watching.
Make sure you subscribe, makesure you tell your friends, make
sure you buy the music.
You will not be disappointed.
I'm going to turn the mic andI'm going to reach.
(50:10):
This is getting out thisafternoon.
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