April 24, 2025 • 52 mins
Jimmy Allen opens up about his journey through the music industry, personal scandals, and finding his way back after losing his record deal in 2023.
• Addressing allegations that cost him his career without having the opportunity to defend himself publicly
• Discussing the mental health impact and contemplating suicide during his darkest moments
• Rejecting a $50 million offer that would have required him to give up his independence
• Finding true friendship during crisis and recognizing who stood by him when others stepped away
• Rebuilding as an independent artist with complete control over his music and performances
• Creating a new band with lifelong friends and family members
• Continuing his annual charity shows to support local schools in his hometown
• Preparing to release new music without label restrictions or industry pressure
• Finding happiness in music creation for the first time since 2018
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Why, to get us started, I need to do this.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Hey, this is Jimmy.
A Ha ha.
With everything I got, girl,I'll give you my best shot.
And meanwhile, down home, ohyou know, mama's still cooking.
Down home we're living for aFriday and freedom was a highway
.
Yeah, it might be too soon tosay I love you, but you're gonna
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make me want to and we areready to roll on.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Skip happens.
I know you can't see that sideof the screen right now, but
he's going to be back here injust a second.
We're making a connection, butmy name is skip clark.
I'm the host, skip happens.
I got my producer, uh ty,sitting over here.
Ty, you can go ahead and sayhello, how's it going everybody,
yeah, there, you go see, veryupbeat, very excited to be here
tonight.
But, uh, I do have jimmy allen.
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He's uh, he said this is onlytake a second, but it's not
taking a second, so we'll justwait three seconds he's back,
jimmy, allen y'all hey, how areyou, my friend man?
Speaker 2 (01:04):
I'm good, my brother, it's good to see you.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
It's so good to see you.
It's so good to see you.
I know it's been a few years, Imean, but where are you right
now?
You're in Nashville.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Yeah, I'm in Nashville.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
I just got here.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
I was in Atlanta, first Florida and then Atlanta.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Were you doing shows or just kind of bouncing around?
Speaker 2 (01:32):
A couple meetings.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Good meetings.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Because I know you used to be in Florida a lot.
You used to.
You know the whole Disney thing.
Oh, yeah, yeah, big fan ofDisney.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Disney, Disney, and you know.
Universal just opened their newpark, epic Universal.
Official open May 22nd.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Have you played there at all?
Have you done your Jimmy Allenthing at the parks I have?
I played Universal there threeyears ago.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Marty Girl.
I went to the concert everynight three years ago, marty
Grohl did that then I did Eat tothe Beat at Epcot, at Universal
.
I give you free passesabsolutely, but I already got an
annual pass.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Oh yeah, regardless dude, you told me that a while
ago I think you were talkingabout Disney and what a big fan
you were and you said that youdid have the annual pass and
then had all that.
But it sounds like you'resomewhat back on your feet.
You know, you went through alot, there's a lot going on and
I know there's probably a lot ofpeople are going to go.
(02:44):
That you know.
Know, I don't want to see him,I don't want to talk to him, I
don't want any of that, if thisyou know.
But you know what, um, thishappened, what 2023, 2023 yeah,
you know what's so funny to me?
Speaker 2 (02:57):
like, like I love how people will see a situation.
They weren't there.
They don't know either party,but people like to make
assumptions.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
That's why, even now, like somebody, will be like hey
man did you hear what happened?
Speaker 2 (03:20):
No, I didn't.
One, not my business.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Two I don't know either person.
So I can't speak or make anopinion on something just
because someone said somethingwith no proof.
But being who you are and whoyou were the top of the charts.
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I remember talking to you atthe great New York state fair
that year, or maybe just beforeall that went down, and um, just
so excited for what you weredoing and everything that was
happening in your life and thenumber one songs and I played,
like some of those here just amoment ago, those songs that
were at the top of the chart.
Then, all of a sudden, whenthis happened whether it
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happened or not, regardless whatthe real deal is the roof came
falling in on you.
You lost your record deal.
Come on, you lost your family.
There was a lot of stuff.
You made your way through itthough the mental health aspect
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of it, and I even read somewherethat you were thinking about
taking your own life when allthis was happening.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Yeah, just trying to find a financial spot Because of
the money I was supposed tomake that year All gone away.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
And my life is covered suicide.
So, if anything, my kids needto be taken care of, but after I
got.
Alright, we lost him again.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Let me put him on the stirrup.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
That was probably Jeff.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
After I got through that, I'm glad.
I did because I realized yourchildren weren't here, right
when I think back to the thingsI was accomplishing in music.
Who I was man is still who I am.
I was just doing cool things atthe time.
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You know what I mean as far aswho I am.
I was just doing cool things atthe time.
But as far as who I am as aperson, my heart, my intentions.
Definitely the same thing and Iwouldn't even say I lost my
family.
I would say I lost people in mylife that shouldn't have been
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there.
That shouldn't have been there.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
So maybe that's somewhat of a good thing maybe.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
You know, I feel like life throws things at you.
And it's all about you how youhandle it.
I have no problem, I have noproblem taking accountability,
taking accountability, cheatingon my wife, which I did.
But again, if we're talkingabout someone having endorsement
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deals, you know if we're again,you know if we're out something
about someone shouldendorsement deal have
endorsement songs have theirsongs played because of because
of an infidelity and infidelity90% of me.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
90% of me don't?
Speaker 2 (06:40):
we should be going?
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Yeah, well you know, you know, I just focus on me and
and my life.
My life and what I can, what Ican be different, moving forward
as far as like protectingmyself protecting, protecting my
circle and protecting thepeople in my, in my circle you
know, you know I um, Idefinitely want to talk about
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your music, what you're doingnow and all that.
But just finding out a littlebit about the background, I'm a
big fan.
I always have been and alwayswill be um a little upset as to
what I heard.
But here again, just like any,you know what is real and what
is not.
I think that's the big questionand you regardless.
You lost it and uh wow, do youfeel the industry gave up on you
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?
Speaker 2 (07:33):
I wouldn't say, I wouldn't say because I really
never paid much attention to theindustry, to the industry um, I
paid attention to people in theindustry that I thought were my
friends, so I would say a lotof my friends that know me, they
know what's happening they'relike nah and the people that I
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thought knew me that might stoptalking to me.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
It hurt at first but I'm like that might stop talking
to me.
No, it is what it is.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
It hurt at first, but I'm like, I'm like.
If I know a friend, someoneI've spent years with, I know
who they are.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
I'm sorry, I'm not going to take the word of
somebody that I don't know overmy friend, especially with no
proof.
And what sucks is what's goingto stand is to file a lawsuit.
You need no proof.
All you got to do is saysomething happened file it, and
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then you can go talk to themedia later on.
You don't have to show anyproof.
And then I had a bunch of proof.
A lot, but I couldn't donothing about it.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
You have to sit there until you get called Discovery,
which was a year later, mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
You know what I mean.
It's dropped, it's over with,but I just feel like there
should be something in Congressto help us get back to the point
of innocent until proven guiltyright.
To where if someone files acivil lawsuit against a public
figure you should be able tofile it and then just go to a
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media outlet one side and thenhide your name.
No, it should be sealed incourt until proven true.
Because what happens is.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
I've seen it happen to so many people right, right
and then and then it's like theevidence, evidence I had
released, I could have gotten introuble, so I'm so I'm supposed
to sit here and do nothing,right, and I don't know.
I just feel like I wish peoplewould use common sense and stop
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believing everything that theyread from one side.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
There's no proof we have.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
I tell people, all it is is a rumor a high-level
rumor.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
We all have heard rumors about other people.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Imagine if every rumor you've heard about
yourself was on television, on amagazine, right, you would hate
it.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Yeah, can I ask Jimmy Allen if he ever notices our
guest here tonight on?
Skip Happens and it just helooks great.
I love chatting with him.
We were supposed to do thislast night.
He was caught in the weather ona plane.
It was like hold on, we're goingto get you there, jimmy, just
hold on.
But it didn't happen.
(10:39):
But he's back in Nashville now.
Jimmy, do you think you knowcountry music is known for that
tight-knit community and, if Imay ask you, being a black man,
do you think it had anything todo with that?
And he did it.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Okay, answered my question yes, yes, and I'm not.
Here's the thing, bro.
I am not I am be naive and sayno Because of what I know and
what I've heard.
See, I don't go by what I think, I go by what I've experienced
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myself, because I can only speakfrom my personal experience.
I can't tell you the festivals.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
I've played, have heard the N-word so many times
I've seen emails between peoplein the street where they use
that word talking about me.
I've heard it in a meeting withsomeone that I was in there.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
So you know it definitely does, but I can't
change where I'm from.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
I can't change my skin color.
All I can do is work hard,write great songs try to put on
shows that lovers love and workevery day to be a good person.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
That's all I can do.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
And that's what the Lord wants you to do.
You need to do that Absolutelyso.
You know some artists, though.
They get their second chances,and one comes to mind, morgan
Wallen.
He got a second chance.
Look at the shit he pulled andwent through.
I love his music, I get it.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
But he got a second chance.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
You know I'm still waiting for your record to land
on my desk going hey, the newjimmy allen's out.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
I tell you what it's coming soon send it to me first.
Yeah, okay, I, I look at itlike you know, you know, I think
about certain things that otherartists man, that that you
clearly see they did it right,right.
But yeah, yeah, someone says Idid something.
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No proof of anything.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
There's no proof, right right, but what killed me
is some of the same people thatstopped talking to me, or
whatever.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Some of the same people that stopped talking to
me or whatever, voted for a guy.
That's the president that hadthe same allegations and was
found guilty of it.
So what are we talking about,exactly, exactly, do you?
You know, some people have somequestions for that connection.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
That's what I'm going to call it.
Do you get people that maybeformer fans or maybe they're
still a fan, but they have anissue with a lot of this,
although they don't know theentire story, when they?
You know, maybe they're, youknow, they've had pictures taken
with you, maybe they've been abig fan and now all of a sudden,
you know, maybe they've beenthe victim of a sexual assault
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or rape or something along that.
Yet you know, no jail time, nopunishment, no record and all
that.
What do you say to somebodythat comes up to you and starts
I imagine that has happened, ithas right what, what?
I mean like somebody coming upto you going I don't like you.
I don't like what you did andyou know it's not fair.
You should be in jail, youshould be.
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I don't like what you did andyou know it's not fair.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
You should be in jail .
I said you weren't there.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
You don't know what happened for that year and a
half, and if I wouldn't get introuble, I'd show you what
happened Right on my phone.
But the reason why I don't getdown like that my mother was a
victim, so was my older sister.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
I don't play with them like like I, and I don't
have to force anyone to doanything.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
I?
I if people saw my hands afterheroes like come on, I'm not,
I'm not.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
I'm not doing that because that's not the first
person I am.
I'm not doing that becausethat's not the type of person I
am.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
No, I don't roll like that and what sucks is we live
in a climate where the phrase isgoing on that says the
believable Right.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
And I'm not saying that.
I'm saying is when I hear about, I don't know, I believe the
truth, whatever, whatever thatmay be, Gotcha, Um and and what.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
What sucks is there's this loophole right where
someone can say if you don't payme this we're gonna file this
lawsuit, huh it comes down tomoney.
That's bullshit cause.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Here's my thing.
Where's the police report?
Mm-hmm, you know this happenedfor a year and a half and you
kept going to work, you didn'tstay home, you didn't quit and
you only had a problem after itgot cut off Like it's
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frustrating man.
It's a dangerous time to be astraight man in America.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
And I spend some time talking to professional
athletes, professional sportsorganizations talking to the
younger players.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Just you know, tell them to be smart, be careful be
careful, because what sucks?
Is a few I said don't let a fewbad people make you look at a
whole gender.
Because that's not fair.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Because I know a lot of great men, a lot of great
women, a lot of great men, a lotof great women.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
And I refuse to let, even though she lied on me.
I refuse to let her change myview and my respect for women.
Not going to change, not goingto change.
That's her, that's her.
You know what I mean, you knowwhat I mean and that's been the
hardest part.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
I'm not going to lie.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
At first I was scared .
Speaker 1 (17:12):
I didn't want to hold the door for him.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
I'm serious.
That's how traumatizing it was.
I didn't want to hold the door.
I didn't want to hold the door,I didn't want to be around him,
I didn't want to talk to him.
Wow, because I was just likealways, always.
But spending time with mytherapist, therapist mom talking
to my family.
They helped remind me you can'tjudge an entire gender, an
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entire race of people, allpersons of actions.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Yeah, so I want to move on a little bit.
But if the industry gives youanother shot, what would you do
differently this time?
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Not be a part of the industry.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
That's a good answer.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Because there's a difference between being in the
music business and being a partof the industry Right From my
perspective and for the peoplelistening, I'll break it down in
difference I will always makemusic, play shows and present it
to people that love my music,whether it's listeners, radio tv
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, whatever, whatever.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
I view the industry as people that play games and
pull strings to make surecertain people do things, and
here's the thing not everybodythat works for record labels or
works for radio is a part ofthem either.
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So for me, even though peoplemight be in the music business,
anyone that's free thinkinganyone that's honest anyone that
is a person and can think forthemselves, and they strive to
be a good person and put thebest music forward they're not
part of the industry either.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Gotcha so the industry is about, about control
.
Since I'm and just use businessdoesn't mean you're a part of
control, cuz there are thingsthat I've seen, some things that
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I've been approached to do orsay by the industry that I said
no and when you say no, you risklosing everything going to say
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do they hold it against you?
You risk losing everything youworked hard for.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
But if you say yes to certain people in power.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Yeah, you can gain a lot of things, but at the end of
the day I'm like I have to beable to sleep at night be okay
with my conscience make surethat, at the end of the day, I
can make choices and be able tostand before God one day and not
be ashamed of my life or mychoices and I always said if I
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got approached with a large sumof money, I'd take it well.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
I was approached with a large sum, like we're talking
about 50 million wow, and Icouldn't do it because of it was
coming from people thatcontrolled so they figured, if
they gave you the money, theywould be able to control you
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because of that.
Yeah, that's crazy.
Yeah, you don't know what yougotta do but what you have to
give up until you accept?
Speaker 2 (21:06):
it and wow, I try to borrow my choices accepted.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Wow, I try to borrow my choices.
And I think you are.
I think you're smart with yourchoices now and that everything
hits you like a ton of bricks.
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
As far as country music goes.
I'll always love country music.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
I was going to ask you that how you feel, because I
I know you've kind of, and nowwe're going to drift away a
little bit from talking aboutall this other stuff.
I know you've loved countrymusic and I loved, and I think
so many of us love, the musicthat you put out, and I played
just a few of the little clipsearlier, but there's a lot more
to it.
Um, that that's one thing,that's the country.
But didn't you start to put outa little bit of uh, was it uh,
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hip-hop, or you went kind of therhythmic side of things a
little bit yeah, I thought thatwas interesting I've, I've
people, if you guys go back andlisten to my albums, not just
country singles.
I've done it since the beginning.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Pop rock, christian, r&b, hip-hop, everything.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
I was signed to a country label, so they're going
to push the country side, butevery album has been a Christian
song, a pop song, an R&B song?
Speaker 2 (22:28):
I love music.
Someone says a lot of reverbcoming from my side.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Is there?
I don't know.
I hear a little bit of clickinggoing on there, but I don't
hear the reverb.
On my end, I don't know, but Ihear a little clicking noise but
I'm not hearing any reverb.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Yeah, I don't hear reverb.
I don't know, not saying itisn't Take a deep breath.
Yeah, I'm hearing reverb, Idon't know, not saying it isn't
any, take a deep, hello, hello,hello.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Oh, we're going for a walk.
Where are you?
Are you like?
Parked?
Where are you?
Where are you parked?
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Oh, I'm down at my buddy's house.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Huh From Jeff's house .
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Jeff, oh, jeff, jeff's downtown.
He says he leaves his shades upat night and I said, dude, why
do you leave them up?
Because I got floor-to-ceilingwindows, he goes.
I just walk around the house,like I said, with your boxers,
he goes oh yeah, yeah, they geta show.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Yeah, screw that.
But yeah, man, there's a lot ofpeople in radio like yourself,
A lot of people that work atlabels that still talk to you.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
I would say this People that I was friends with.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
I'm still friends with you.
Know what, jimmy?
That's a good thing.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
My friend Jimmy says there is a lot of reverb on his
end there as well.
I don't know why Is it stillthere, I think it might be, I
don't know why Is it still there?
I think it might be I wonderwhere it's from.
I don't know.
I'm just messing around here alittle bit.
I don't know why there's a lotof reverb.
I hope it's not too bad.
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It's from his phone.
He's saying.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
It could be from your phone.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
I don't know.
You know there's that crack inthe pavement.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Yeah, I see the crack , Tyler.
You see the crack in thepavement.
Does that look familiar?
Maybe when you were inNashville and fell over one
night, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
How do you, here we go, here we go.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
So we're looking at Nashville Blacktop, by the way,
this is there we go, there we go.
Oh, okay.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Now he's back, he's good, I'm still not technology,
technology, technology.
Is that how you say that?
Is that how you say that?
Speaker 1 (24:46):
I don't know that sounds good.
Let me ask you this How's yourbowling game?
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Oh man, bowling is lit bro.
Bowling is lit bro.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
I knew that put a smile on your face, my avid
climber, my avid climber, yeah.
Like two something.
Like two something Mine waslike 225 right now.
All right Cool.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
And I mean professional softball player now
.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Yeah, I know, and somebody commented Nick is on
there, jimmy, let's play somesoftball.
Nick, let's do it Definitelyshout out to my bowling sponsor.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Brunswick.
Shout out to my softballsponsor Mike and Rollins.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
That's cool, it's fun , man, that's what.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
I miss.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Having that fun outside of music.
I miss being a person.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Because I was doing so much, all the time, all the
time.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Being able to actually be a person and my
family and friends it was ararity.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Family and friends it was, you know, a rarity.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Can I ask?
I know bowling is a big thingfor you.
My brother-in-laws are bigbowlers, plus they're softball
players too, so I'm sure they'reprobably watching this.
But let's go back to the musica little bit.
As you rebuild your life andcareer at the same time, are
there artists or people in thecountry scene that have actually
stood by you right along?
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Yeah, there are.
So for me it wasn't aboutpeople coming out publicly
saying anything.
It was just as long, you know,I knew the relationship was
there.
I had a lot of people reach outthat know me, let me know they
know, me.
Let me know they were there forme.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
But also what I went through.
A few people reached out andsaid man.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
It made them want to be a lot more cautious about
their extracurricular activities.
You know, protecting yourselfand all that.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
You know I'm thinking back.
I remember seeing I think itwas the cmas, and I think even
you have a cma award, right youdo yes, and acm and acm.
Now do you still?
You stay away from those or thewhat's going the acms or the
cmas.
I mean you don't have any partof that now, do you?
(27:18):
Well, well, I'm still a CMEmember, you know I definitely
pay attention to what's going onin business, but actually it
was 2022.
I said I kind of wanted to takea break from award shows.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
They're fun, but I felt like I just need a break
from them.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
I got you Focus on the music you know connecting
with you know the listeners.
And I still, you know, I stilltune into the ACMs, I still tune
into the CMA Awards.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
And you know when my friends win, I get nominated.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
I still text them and congratulate them.
I'm happy for them because it'sa it's a heck of a.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Heck of an achievement because it's like
because it's like that means.
That means fellow people in themusic business support what
you're doing, and that's how Ilooked at my my dma win.
Not saying I was the best ofall.
The list of new artists.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
I looked at that award as saying people that work
in the music business look andsay, Jimmy, we see you, we
appreciate what you're doing andwe respect it.
But in no way shape or form didI take that and put it on my
shoulders.
I'm the best.
We're all the best of ourselves.
No one can be Jimmy Allen.
(28:45):
No one can be Jelly Roll.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
No one can be.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Abby Anderson.
No one can be Nate Smith, noone can be the Warren Treaty.
That's so true.
No one can beat a war treaty.
That's so true, I took it asmore being seen and being heard
than being the best.
I remember I believe it was theCMAs you did a bit on stage.
(29:13):
You were celebrating the lifeof oh my.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
God, charlie Pryor.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Yes, that is one moment.
I will never forget the life ofCharlie.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Pryde, thank you.
That is one moment I will neverforget.
I remember sitting in my familyroom watching you on my big
screen, going that is freakingawesome.
That is the best thing I'veever seen.
That was honestly the highlightof my career.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Recording a song with Charlie Pryde and Darius Rucker
, it was on my album, my albumbetty james man, man, that guy
for me was what, what?
(30:00):
Country music was to me becausethe only, only other black
people really, really in countrymusic time was him and before
him he had, before bailey, thefirst black I remember um, so
what yeah?
Yeah, and then charlie and beclose with Charlie and be close
with him, oh my.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
God, dude, that's so cool, you're so blessed.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
I bet he was and he could do a thing where he could
talk to you for five minutes andguess your birthday and he
would be within two to threedays close to it Really.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
That's amazing, see, that's amazing.
He said you know how to do that.
I said, yeah, You're so old,you were born when they created
Zodiac Signs bro.
I love that.
What would you, Jimmy?
What would you tell anotherBlack artist that's trying to
(30:56):
break into the country?
Music side of things, whatadvice would you give that
person?
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Focus on the music, make good songs put on a good
show.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Don't focus on skin color because, every black
artist in country music that hasgood songs put on a great show
has found a way um because youknow, I've had an artist say to
me well, this didn't happenbecause I was, because I was
(31:31):
like I said no, that happenedbecause your songs are trashed I
said, I know a lot of whiteartists that ain't getting no
radio play either there's a lotof them, so I was like the thing
is, I said, use your skin coloras an advantage.
First of all, you'll stand out,make a hit song, because at the
(31:52):
end of the day.
It's about music and no one cancontrol how good or how bad
your songs are, other than you.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
You know like, look, my dad was a Marine and he
raised me to not make excuses.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
You know, life is what life is.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
You are where you are you look like what you look
like You're from where you'refrom, but that doesn't control
your work ethic.
True, you know.
Yeah, I tell all black artiststhat.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
I meet, get started.
We've all had theseconversations make good music
and be honest about music.
Just because you love it, don'tmake it good, you know do you
you're doing shows?
You've Do you you're doingshows?
You've been home.
(32:43):
You're from Delaware.
I know you were home for alittle bit.
You were playing some placesaround your hometown, I think
not all that long ago, which Ithought was great.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
I do a charity show every year.
I play a part of the rest ofthe brothers.
Shout out to my friends Alexand Vicky Cool.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Every year I pick a local school and I play a show
and, instead of getting paid,the money we raise we give to a
local school.
So this past year was my sixthyear doing it this year B7.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
You know.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
I'm looking at some of the comments that are coming
in and there are a ton of thembecause Jimmy Allen is on Skip
Happens, this is so cool.
And a lot of those are like wemiss you, Jimmy.
Let's okay, that's about reverb, but that's being all right.
Somebody says we need to playsoftball.
Give them my number, but that'scool.
(33:39):
So what I'm saying, I guessoverall when I read these
comments, with the exception ofa couple, is they're very
favorable and you've got fansthat want you back on the radio.
You've got fans that are saying, okay, enough time has gone by,
we need to move forward, and Iagree with that.
I think we do, and I think whatyou were getting at in the
(34:01):
beginning when you said you werein some meetings, hopefully
those are things that areeventually going to pan out and
I'm going to be able to put onthe wolf here in Syracuse
because there are a lot ofpeople that are missing you.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
You'll definitely have some.
I actually send you the newsingle.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
I would love to hear it just between you and I.
Yeah, you can play if you.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
I would love to hear it just between you and I.
Yeah, yeah, you can play if youwant to.
I don't care.
See, the good thing about beingindie and having your own label
under distribution.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
there's no red tape.
Do whatever, I'm all about notholding music back just giving
people you know you playwhenever you feel like playing
you know um.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
But yeah, I'm super excited about the music and I
can say this is the first timesince 2018 that I've been happy
as far as like making music andhappy with my life um, because I
am doing what makes me happy,right, not feeling pressure to
(35:15):
do certain things you're doingyour own thing in the way you
want to do it.
Yeah, that's the good thing.
I always make music, put it outwhatever stations want to play
it.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Whoever wants to stream it can stream it whoever
wants to come to the show.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Come to the show.
It's about doing what you love.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Yeah, one thing that really bothered me and to a
certain degree, and then again Ido understand it too, too.
So please don't take this thewrong way but being a program
director, and then, all of asudden, when all this crap went
down, when it went down, it waslike okay, we need to pull jimmy
from the radio.
Jimmy, can't?
You know we were playing songs,whether they're in recurrence
or golds.
(35:52):
I mean, you had so many songsand it was like, okay, no, we're
just gonna.
You know, we're just gonna,we're gonna pull.
You know, I got orders from.
It was like, okay, no, we'rejust going to pull.
I got orders from somebody upabove that said okay, we need to
pull the Jimmy Allen stuff andit's like, but it's almost
saying that you're guiltywithout being proven guilty.
And, as you mentioned a fewminutes ago earlier on in the
podcast, where was the proof,when was the evidence?
(36:15):
Where was?
And so many people do think ithappened, but you know, there's
no proof.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Yeah, it is my thing.
People can think thingshappened, People can think
things didn't happen.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
You know where's the proof If everybody in the world
operated treated people becausethey heard something about them
like there's been so manycountry artists or pop artists
or actors, athletes.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
I met.
And people say oh, thisperson's like this, or they'll
say something about them and Imeet them and I have a
completely different experience.
Because Rumors are rumors andthat's the dangerous part, cause
like literally Someone, guy orgirl, could say Skip said this
(37:07):
to me in a meeting Right Go filea lawsuit and then go write a
story about it, even though ithasn't gone to court, they
haven't shown any evidence, andthen your job would be in danger
because of something or someonethat just ain't sane to me.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
Bro, you know I hate to say this but whether it's me
or anybody else, this happensway too often.
We take a look around the worldright now, with everything
that's going on, there's a lotof hearsay, there's a lot of you
know, he said, she said, andthey're going to do this and
they're not going to do that.
So I mean that's that's a bigproblem right now.
But so, all right, music wise,you're out you're doing the
(37:54):
shows and are they booking?
Directly through you.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
I imagine you have a team now.
You know they reach out, but Idon't accept every show.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
I'm picky you're an independent, why not?
Speaker 2 (38:07):
because where am I at my life right now?
As long as I have finances totake care of what I take care of
.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
Good, good how are the kids?
You have 6 right.
See that brought a smile onyour face.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
I tell you one thing about my oldest is about to be
11, bro you wait listen that guy, that guy, he's funny.
The good thing about Kip theymotivate you.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
They help you remember what's important.
And for me not only set anexample when things are good,
but trying to set an examplewhen things are bad, because
when all this happened 2020, andthey put the art on the same
(39:07):
days, so I remember one artistthat stepped off the red carpet.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Yo just heard this.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
I know you keep your head up there's a lot of things
I could have done to.
I know you, I know it's notkeep your head up.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
To prove my, but it's all about.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
How.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
I will be how my mic, yeah, how my kids.
Once I got, yeah, I could havedid a few things I thought about
to prove, you know, that shewas full of crap.
But how I what?
Speaker 1 (39:54):
I'm able to live with was worth yeah yeah why am I
defending myself against peoplethat?
Speaker 2 (40:04):
don't love me.
So people that love me, I knowthey love me and I'm good.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
I don't need to defend myself, you know no,
exactly, and sometimes I thinkif you try to defend yourself,
it's going to set the impressionin others minds that, alright,
he's got something, he's tryingto cover something up or he's
trying to.
You know, you're better offjust to move.
You know, do what you did, Iguess.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
But what I would have used to defend him.
It wouldn't have been noquestions, All right.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
It wouldn't have been no questions.
All right, no, no.
So anyways, jimmy Allen andyou're parked alongside.
I don't know where you are, butit's getting dark out.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
I know, I see that.
Good job, good job.
I like it.
I kind of like the picture.
That's cool.
Yeah, that's cool, that's cool,but so we can expect some new
music.
We're going to hear from youone way or another shortly, man,
I don't know how.
You know, thinking back, it wasyou know we lost you, while we
(41:10):
didn't lose you.
You're here, but I mean in 2023, it's like, oh, jimmy Allen's
there one day and he's gone thenext, but and now is it hard?
To what do you think?
Let me put it this way what?
What is your biggest obstacleto getting yourself back in
front of fans writing new music?
I mean, what's the biggestobstacle, knowing everything
you've been through, I don'tknow.
(41:33):
As far as like me.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
Well, I don't really see things.
I don't really see anyobstacles Okay, that's good.
I don't really see any options.
Okay, because.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
That's good.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
I look at it like no one can stop me from.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
No one can stop me from.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
You know, you know, like, like.
So Distribution Labels there'sways, there's ways to get, and
there's so many marketing teams,radio teams, digital promotion
teams, available Every stepAbout what I'm working with, but
(42:13):
everything's more about me andmy time and my mindset, because
for a while, every time Ithought about performing or
doing anything in country I wasreminded of that nonsense.
(42:35):
I was reminded of the peoplethat thought we're friends that
left.
I was on my mind.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
The people that thought we're friends that left.
I got you, I totally get it.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
But once I got my mind, you know, I was like okay.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
You gotta take care of yourself mental health is so
important.
Do you still have the same bandMm-hmm?
Speaker 2 (43:00):
No, I have a different band.
No.
Speaker 1 (43:01):
Entirely different band Okay.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
Yeah, I, I I've got guys in my life that I've known
pretty much my whole life.
Great musicians.
Speaker 1 (43:17):
Well, you had a great bunch before.
I remember seeing you at we hada place called Kegs and I
remember you performed there andyou had one band member that
was doing a lot of video stuffand recording a lot of different
things.
I can't think of his name now,but I get it.
Everybody moves on and it's anew beginning, maybe.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
Yeah, and where I'm at musically now and when, I
want my nose to sound like theband I had.
Speaker 1 (43:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
You'll see it, yeah, you'll see.
Oh, like, like, like, like,like, like, like, like, like,
like, like, like, like, like,like, like, like, like, like,
like, like, like, like, like,like, like, like A lot of people
, yeah, a lot of people, andkind of just where my life's at
(44:13):
and when I want to be able to domusic on the fly.
Speaker 1 (44:18):
These guys are good at it.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
They've done it, and these are guys that I've known
for so long and they're bloodcousins.
Speaker 1 (44:34):
Really, I love it.
Yeah, that's cool.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
I'm real selective with who I allow to be.
Speaker 1 (44:48):
Well, I get you, my friend, I get you.
I'm not going to keep you muchlonger here.
I think it's getting dark there.
You could be in a badneighborhood, I'm just saying
I'm busted on you, but it's allgood.
You know I'd love to get you uphere for a show.
I think Jimmy Allen needs to bein the Northeast and hopefully
(45:08):
we would be one of those placeswhere you would come out to play
, is Keg still a.
Speaker 2 (45:13):
thing.
Speaker 1 (45:13):
Keg is still a thing.
Speaker 2 (45:15):
Yeah, I mean yes, as a matter of fact in Jordan.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
Yes, yes, sir, as a matter of fact, your name's
already been bounced around alittle bit Ross Catalino, Back
to Back Entertainment, one ofthe many promoters I'm sure you
come across, but he's the guythat does all that for kegs.
But definitely good stuff, andI think this would be a good
place for you to say hey, I'mJimmy Allen, I'm back.
(45:43):
I never left, but I'm back.
Speaker 2 (45:46):
Yeah, it'll be a good place to play.
You were booked there.
Speaker 1 (45:56):
I'm looking at Tyler over here.
Tyler goes to all those showsyou were booked there.
But when the what's that, ty?
I?
Had tickets to it.
You had tickets to it LastMarch, I think, somewhere around
there.
It was after, I think, therewas Ticket sale thing or
something.
No, we didn't end up doing it.
Speaker 2 (46:17):
Because there was a medical emergency.
Speaker 1 (46:20):
Oh, okay, okay, yeah, yeah, I read.
So there was a medicalemergency.
Speaker 2 (46:26):
We were supposed to do it last March.
Speaker 1 (46:29):
Last March.
Yeah, tyler, he goes.
Yep, I had tickets, still gotthem.
We're going to work on that andJimmy Allen is back and Jimmy,
you opened up tonight and you'vebeen through so much Everything
that has happened good, bad.
Whatever you believe, whateveryou don't believe, this is Jimmy
(46:51):
, this is the real Jimmy andjust, you know, nobody can tell
you what to believe and what notto believe, but hopefully you
will see the light and see whathe's doing and what he's been
through and anybody that, in myopinion, been through anything
like this.
You know I've anything to dosexual abuse, anything like that
(47:14):
.
You know, no, hold the phone,this doesn't happen, but the
it's just.
I don't know it's what I forgot, what I was going to say, but
it's, it's what you believe in,what you don't believe.
So it's just the mental health.
I was going to talk about themental health part of it.
That what it just knowing thatall this happened, whether it
happened, whether it didn'thappen?
(47:35):
There's got to be so much onyour mind.
As you mentioned, you know,suicide was covered in your life
insurance policy and thosethoughts were going through your
mind, so that's and now look atyou and I spent a lot of time,
so a lot of stuff I do I don'tpublicize.
Speaker 2 (47:54):
You know, you know speaking with you know, sexual
assault victims, you knowgrowing up, growing up my mother
my mother went to work and mysister right.
And to have yeah, do that.
Speaker 1 (48:15):
Say that, say that means what really really made me
sick when I see people, I seepeople that you know when I have
trauma, I have trauma for avendetta a vendetta.
Speaker 2 (48:26):
It bothers me.
Um um, you know that that's theone, the one thing that you try
to ruin their life.
Speaker 1 (48:38):
But you see so many, so many of them, right now
because they people know.
Speaker 2 (48:42):
That's the one thing you want to not criminally but
civil law literally how you seesomeone like they're like it's
crazy driving around yourproblem, you know what I mean.
That's something you canthreaten somebody or try to get
vengeance, but I just tellpeople to be smart about
(49:02):
situations.
You put yourself in peoplearound and just move forward
life happens.
Speaker 1 (49:11):
We'll respond and it will keep going, so Um and just
move forward.
Speaker 2 (49:12):
Life happens, we're responding.
Speaker 1 (49:13):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (49:14):
And it will keep going, yeah, so so.
Speaker 1 (49:17):
Jimmy, I love you, bro.
You know what it's just um,it's been great catching up with
you and digging into this alittle bit and hopefully I
didn't go too far.
Speaker 2 (49:27):
Um, hopefully it's all good.
Speaker 1 (49:29):
It's all good, you're such a good man.
Um, I do appreciate that.
I know Tyler.
When I told him, yeah, we'regoing to be talking to Jimmy
tonight, he was like, oh my godreally.
I said, yeah, I got him.
He's very shy, but he loves topush the buttons and stuff.
I'm hoping what.
I went through helps someoneelse because everything you know
(49:52):
, helps someone else, becauseeverything we go through in life
, you know other people can useit and grow from.
It sucks.
Speaker 2 (50:00):
I don't wish this on anybody, Gotcha, but you know I
hope someone out there learnssomething.
Speaker 1 (50:12):
I hope people are careful with their words.
Speaker 2 (50:17):
And even more careful with their actions.
Speaker 1 (50:22):
Well said Wow.
Speaker 2 (50:25):
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (50:26):
All right, jimmy, I think we've kept you out in the
street long enough.
Now you can either go, maybeplay some softball or maybe hit
up the alley.
Speaker 2 (50:37):
I'm about to watch this NFL draft.
Speaker 1 (50:40):
Oh, that's right.
Yes, NFL draft.
Yeah, there you go.
I love it.
All.
Right, I'm not going to keepyou any longer then.
Speaker 2 (50:47):
I'm going to text you my email.
Speaker 1 (50:52):
I'll text you my email Yep, yep, exactly.
Thank you, god bless you.
Thank you for being on the air.
Thank you for watching.
I love you, I'll be safe.
The NFL draft is on, so getyour ass out of the vehicle in
the house in front of thetelevision.
Let's go bro Quickly.
Who's your NFL team?
(51:12):
Eagles, I've been waiting foryou to bring it up because I was
going to give you shit for that.
Did you hear, tyler?
He was going to give you shitfor that.
Who's your team?
You've got to speak up, Ty.
Who's your team?
Cowboys?
Speaker 2 (51:26):
Hot bro, You're from New York.
Speaker 1 (51:30):
It's okay, both guys.
I wanted us to pick are alreadyoff the board.
Speaker 2 (51:32):
We got the Bills.
Speaker 1 (51:33):
The Giants, the Jets Bro, have you been to Dallas.
No.
Speaker 2 (51:41):
Come on, man, they ain't been good.
How old are you?
Are you under?
Speaker 1 (51:43):
40?
I'm 22.
Bro, they haven't been goodyour whole life.
Nope, but as long as we beatthe Eagles, that's okay.
We can go two and 15.
We just got to beat the Eagles.
I'm not even commenting.
I'll see you at Highmarkstadium.
We'll follow the bills.
All right, it's all good, jimmy.
(52:06):
Peace out, brother, you takecare, I'm going to text you my
email.
Send me that.
I'd love to hear it.
Thank you for being on SkipHappens tonight.
Thank you for having me.
All right, tell all yourfriends that said hi.
Tell Jeff, thank you and we'lltalk to you soon.
Brother, all right, will do,will do.
All right, peace out, see you.
Why, to get us started, I need to do this.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Hey, this is Jimmy.
A Ha ha.
With everything I got, girl,I'll give you my best shot.
And meanwhile, down home, ohyou know, mama's still cooking.
Down home we're living for aFriday and freedom was a highway
.
Yeah, it might be too soon tosay I love you, but you're gonna
(00:27):
make me want to and we areready to roll on.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Skip happens.
I know you can't see that sideof the screen right now, but
he's going to be back here injust a second.
We're making a connection, butmy name is skip clark.
I'm the host, skip happens.
I got my producer, uh ty,sitting over here.
Ty, you can go ahead and sayhello, how's it going everybody,
yeah, there, you go see, veryupbeat, very excited to be here
tonight.
But, uh, I do have jimmy allen.
(00:52):
He's uh, he said this is onlytake a second, but it's not
taking a second, so we'll justwait three seconds he's back,
jimmy, allen y'all hey, how areyou, my friend man?
Speaker 2 (01:04):
I'm good, my brother, it's good to see you.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
It's so good to see you.
It's so good to see you.
I know it's been a few years, Imean, but where are you right
now?
You're in Nashville.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Yeah, I'm in Nashville.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
I just got here.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
I was in Atlanta, first Florida and then Atlanta.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Were you doing shows or just kind of bouncing around?
Speaker 2 (01:32):
A couple meetings.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Good meetings.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Because I know you used to be in Florida a lot.
You used to.
You know the whole Disney thing.
Oh, yeah, yeah, big fan ofDisney.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Disney, Disney, and you know.
Universal just opened their newpark, epic Universal.
Official open May 22nd.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Have you played there at all?
Have you done your Jimmy Allenthing at the parks I have?
I played Universal there threeyears ago.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Marty Girl.
I went to the concert everynight three years ago, marty
Grohl did that then I did Eat tothe Beat at Epcot, at Universal
.
I give you free passesabsolutely, but I already got an
annual pass.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Oh yeah, regardless dude, you told me that a while
ago I think you were talkingabout Disney and what a big fan
you were and you said that youdid have the annual pass and
then had all that.
But it sounds like you'resomewhat back on your feet.
You know, you went through alot, there's a lot going on and
I know there's probably a lot ofpeople are going to go.
(02:44):
That you know.
Know, I don't want to see him,I don't want to talk to him, I
don't want any of that, if thisyou know.
But you know what, um, thishappened, what 2023, 2023 yeah,
you know what's so funny to me?
Speaker 2 (02:57):
like, like I love how people will see a situation.
They weren't there.
They don't know either party,but people like to make
assumptions.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
That's why, even now, like somebody, will be like hey
man did you hear what happened?
Speaker 2 (03:20):
No, I didn't.
One, not my business.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Two I don't know either person.
So I can't speak or make anopinion on something just
because someone said somethingwith no proof.
But being who you are and whoyou were the top of the charts.
(03:44):
I remember talking to you atthe great New York state fair
that year, or maybe just beforeall that went down, and um, just
so excited for what you weredoing and everything that was
happening in your life and thenumber one songs and I played,
like some of those here just amoment ago, those songs that
were at the top of the chart.
Then, all of a sudden, whenthis happened whether it
(04:05):
happened or not, regardless whatthe real deal is the roof came
falling in on you.
You lost your record deal.
Come on, you lost your family.
There was a lot of stuff.
You made your way through itthough the mental health aspect
(04:27):
of it, and I even read somewherethat you were thinking about
taking your own life when allthis was happening.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Yeah, just trying to find a financial spot Because of
the money I was supposed tomake that year All gone away.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
And my life is covered suicide.
So, if anything, my kids needto be taken care of, but after I
got.
Alright, we lost him again.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Let me put him on the stirrup.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
That was probably Jeff.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
After I got through that, I'm glad.
I did because I realized yourchildren weren't here, right
when I think back to the thingsI was accomplishing in music.
Who I was man is still who I am.
I was just doing cool things atthe time.
(05:24):
You know what I mean as far aswho I am.
I was just doing cool things atthe time.
But as far as who I am as aperson, my heart, my intentions.
Definitely the same thing and Iwouldn't even say I lost my
family.
I would say I lost people in mylife that shouldn't have been
(05:49):
there.
That shouldn't have been there.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
So maybe that's somewhat of a good thing maybe.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
You know, I feel like life throws things at you.
And it's all about you how youhandle it.
I have no problem, I have noproblem taking accountability,
taking accountability, cheatingon my wife, which I did.
But again, if we're talkingabout someone having endorsement
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deals, you know if we're again,you know if we're out something
about someone shouldendorsement deal have
endorsement songs have theirsongs played because of because
of an infidelity and infidelity90% of me.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
90% of me don't?
Speaker 2 (06:40):
we should be going?
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Yeah, well you know, you know, I just focus on me and
and my life.
My life and what I can, what Ican be different, moving forward
as far as like protectingmyself protecting, protecting my
circle and protecting thepeople in my, in my circle you
know, you know I um, Idefinitely want to talk about
(07:05):
your music, what you're doingnow and all that.
But just finding out a littlebit about the background, I'm a
big fan.
I always have been and alwayswill be um a little upset as to
what I heard.
But here again, just like any,you know what is real and what
is not.
I think that's the big questionand you regardless.
You lost it and uh wow, do youfeel the industry gave up on you
(07:28):
?
Speaker 2 (07:33):
I wouldn't say, I wouldn't say because I really
never paid much attention to theindustry, to the industry um, I
paid attention to people in theindustry that I thought were my
friends, so I would say a lotof my friends that know me, they
know what's happening they'relike nah and the people that I
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thought knew me that might stoptalking to me.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
It hurt at first but I'm like that might stop talking
to me.
No, it is what it is.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
It hurt at first, but I'm like, I'm like.
If I know a friend, someoneI've spent years with, I know
who they are.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
I'm sorry, I'm not going to take the word of
somebody that I don't know overmy friend, especially with no
proof.
And what sucks is what's goingto stand is to file a lawsuit.
You need no proof.
All you got to do is saysomething happened file it, and
(08:39):
then you can go talk to themedia later on.
You don't have to show anyproof.
And then I had a bunch of proof.
A lot, but I couldn't donothing about it.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
You have to sit there until you get called Discovery,
which was a year later, mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
You know what I mean.
It's dropped, it's over with,but I just feel like there
should be something in Congressto help us get back to the point
of innocent until proven guiltyright.
To where if someone files acivil lawsuit against a public
figure you should be able tofile it and then just go to a
(09:20):
media outlet one side and thenhide your name.
No, it should be sealed incourt until proven true.
Because what happens is.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
I've seen it happen to so many people right, right
and then and then it's like theevidence, evidence I had
released, I could have gotten introuble, so I'm so I'm supposed
to sit here and do nothing,right, and I don't know.
I just feel like I wish peoplewould use common sense and stop
(09:53):
believing everything that theyread from one side.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
There's no proof we have.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
I tell people, all it is is a rumor a high-level
rumor.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
We all have heard rumors about other people.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Imagine if every rumor you've heard about
yourself was on television, on amagazine, right, you would hate
it.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Yeah, can I ask Jimmy Allen if he ever notices our
guest here tonight on?
Skip Happens and it just helooks great.
I love chatting with him.
We were supposed to do thislast night.
He was caught in the weather ona plane.
It was like hold on, we're goingto get you there, jimmy, just
hold on.
But it didn't happen.
(10:39):
But he's back in Nashville now.
Jimmy, do you think you knowcountry music is known for that
tight-knit community and, if Imay ask you, being a black man,
do you think it had anything todo with that?
And he did it.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Okay, answered my question yes, yes, and I'm not.
Here's the thing, bro.
I am not I am be naive and sayno Because of what I know and
what I've heard.
See, I don't go by what I think, I go by what I've experienced
(11:17):
myself, because I can only speakfrom my personal experience.
I can't tell you the festivals.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
I've played, have heard the N-word so many times
I've seen emails between peoplein the street where they use
that word talking about me.
I've heard it in a meeting withsomeone that I was in there.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
So you know it definitely does, but I can't
change where I'm from.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
I can't change my skin color.
All I can do is work hard,write great songs try to put on
shows that lovers love and workevery day to be a good person.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
That's all I can do.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
And that's what the Lord wants you to do.
You need to do that Absolutelyso.
You know some artists, though.
They get their second chances,and one comes to mind, morgan
Wallen.
He got a second chance.
Look at the shit he pulled andwent through.
I love his music, I get it.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
But he got a second chance.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
You know I'm still waiting for your record to land
on my desk going hey, the newjimmy allen's out.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
I tell you what it's coming soon send it to me first.
Yeah, okay, I, I look at itlike you know, you know, I think
about certain things that otherartists man, that that you
clearly see they did it right,right.
But yeah, yeah, someone says Idid something.
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No proof of anything.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
There's no proof, right right, but what killed me
is some of the same people thatstopped talking to me, or
whatever.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Some of the same people that stopped talking to
me or whatever, voted for a guy.
That's the president that hadthe same allegations and was
found guilty of it.
So what are we talking about,exactly, exactly, do you?
You know, some people have somequestions for that connection.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
That's what I'm going to call it.
Do you get people that maybeformer fans or maybe they're
still a fan, but they have anissue with a lot of this,
although they don't know theentire story, when they?
You know, maybe they're, youknow, they've had pictures taken
with you, maybe they've been abig fan and now all of a sudden,
you know, maybe they've beenthe victim of a sexual assault
(13:41):
or rape or something along that.
Yet you know, no jail time, nopunishment, no record and all
that.
What do you say to somebodythat comes up to you and starts
I imagine that has happened, ithas right what, what?
I mean like somebody coming upto you going I don't like you.
I don't like what you did andyou know it's not fair.
You should be in jail, youshould be.
(14:02):
I don't like what you did andyou know it's not fair.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
You should be in jail .
I said you weren't there.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
You don't know what happened for that year and a
half, and if I wouldn't get introuble, I'd show you what
happened Right on my phone.
But the reason why I don't getdown like that my mother was a
victim, so was my older sister.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
I don't play with them like like I, and I don't
have to force anyone to doanything.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
I?
I if people saw my hands afterheroes like come on, I'm not,
I'm not.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
I'm not doing that because that's not the first
person I am.
I'm not doing that becausethat's not the type of person I
am.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
No, I don't roll like that and what sucks is we live
in a climate where the phrase isgoing on that says the
believable Right.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
And I'm not saying that.
I'm saying is when I hear about, I don't know, I believe the
truth, whatever, whatever thatmay be, Gotcha, Um and and what.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
What sucks is there's this loophole right where
someone can say if you don't payme this we're gonna file this
lawsuit, huh it comes down tomoney.
That's bullshit cause.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Here's my thing.
Where's the police report?
Mm-hmm, you know this happenedfor a year and a half and you
kept going to work, you didn'tstay home, you didn't quit and
you only had a problem after itgot cut off Like it's
(16:10):
frustrating man.
It's a dangerous time to be astraight man in America.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
And I spend some time talking to professional
athletes, professional sportsorganizations talking to the
younger players.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Just you know, tell them to be smart, be careful be
careful, because what sucks?
Is a few I said don't let a fewbad people make you look at a
whole gender.
Because that's not fair.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Because I know a lot of great men, a lot of great
women, a lot of great men, a lotof great women.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
And I refuse to let, even though she lied on me.
I refuse to let her change myview and my respect for women.
Not going to change, not goingto change.
That's her, that's her.
You know what I mean, you knowwhat I mean and that's been the
hardest part.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
I'm not going to lie.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
At first I was scared .
Speaker 1 (17:12):
I didn't want to hold the door for him.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
I'm serious.
That's how traumatizing it was.
I didn't want to hold the door.
I didn't want to hold the door,I didn't want to be around him,
I didn't want to talk to him.
Wow, because I was just likealways, always.
But spending time with mytherapist, therapist mom talking
to my family.
They helped remind me you can'tjudge an entire gender, an
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entire race of people, allpersons of actions.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Yeah, so I want to move on a little bit.
But if the industry gives youanother shot, what would you do
differently this time?
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Not be a part of the industry.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
That's a good answer.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Because there's a difference between being in the
music business and being a partof the industry Right From my
perspective and for the peoplelistening, I'll break it down in
difference I will always makemusic, play shows and present it
to people that love my music,whether it's listeners, radio tv
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, whatever, whatever.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
I view the industry as people that play games and
pull strings to make surecertain people do things, and
here's the thing not everybodythat works for record labels or
works for radio is a part ofthem either.
(18:46):
So for me, even though peoplemight be in the music business,
anyone that's free thinkinganyone that's honest anyone that
is a person and can think forthemselves, and they strive to
be a good person and put thebest music forward they're not
part of the industry either.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Gotcha so the industry is about, about control
.
Since I'm and just use businessdoesn't mean you're a part of
control, cuz there are thingsthat I've seen, some things that
(19:27):
I've been approached to do orsay by the industry that I said
no and when you say no, you risklosing everything going to say
(19:52):
do they hold it against you?
You risk losing everything youworked hard for.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
But if you say yes to certain people in power.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Yeah, you can gain a lot of things, but at the end of
the day I'm like I have to beable to sleep at night be okay
with my conscience make surethat, at the end of the day, I
can make choices and be able tostand before God one day and not
be ashamed of my life or mychoices and I always said if I
(20:28):
got approached with a large sumof money, I'd take it well.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
I was approached with a large sum, like we're talking
about 50 million wow, and Icouldn't do it because of it was
coming from people thatcontrolled so they figured, if
they gave you the money, theywould be able to control you
(20:56):
because of that.
Yeah, that's crazy.
Yeah, you don't know what yougotta do but what you have to
give up until you accept?
Speaker 2 (21:06):
it and wow, I try to borrow my choices accepted.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Wow, I try to borrow my choices.
And I think you are.
I think you're smart with yourchoices now and that everything
hits you like a ton of bricks.
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
As far as country music goes.
I'll always love country music.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
I was going to ask you that how you feel, because I
I know you've kind of, and nowwe're going to drift away a
little bit from talking aboutall this other stuff.
I know you've loved countrymusic and I loved, and I think
so many of us love, the musicthat you put out, and I played
just a few of the little clipsearlier, but there's a lot more
to it.
Um, that that's one thing,that's the country.
But didn't you start to put outa little bit of uh, was it uh,
(21:53):
hip-hop, or you went kind of therhythmic side of things a
little bit yeah, I thought thatwas interesting I've, I've
people, if you guys go back andlisten to my albums, not just
country singles.
I've done it since the beginning.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Pop rock, christian, r&b, hip-hop, everything.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
I was signed to a country label, so they're going
to push the country side, butevery album has been a Christian
song, a pop song, an R&B song?
Speaker 2 (22:28):
I love music.
Someone says a lot of reverbcoming from my side.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Is there?
I don't know.
I hear a little bit of clickinggoing on there, but I don't
hear the reverb.
On my end, I don't know, but Ihear a little clicking noise but
I'm not hearing any reverb.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Yeah, I don't hear reverb.
I don't know, not saying itisn't Take a deep breath.
Yeah, I'm hearing reverb, Idon't know, not saying it isn't
any, take a deep, hello, hello,hello.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Oh, we're going for a walk.
Where are you?
Are you like?
Parked?
Where are you?
Where are you parked?
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Oh, I'm down at my buddy's house.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Huh From Jeff's house .
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Jeff, oh, jeff, jeff's downtown.
He says he leaves his shades upat night and I said, dude, why
do you leave them up?
Because I got floor-to-ceilingwindows, he goes.
I just walk around the house,like I said, with your boxers,
he goes oh yeah, yeah, they geta show.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Yeah, screw that.
But yeah, man, there's a lot ofpeople in radio like yourself,
A lot of people that work atlabels that still talk to you.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
I would say this People that I was friends with.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
I'm still friends with you.
Know what, jimmy?
That's a good thing.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
My friend Jimmy says there is a lot of reverb on his
end there as well.
I don't know why Is it stillthere, I think it might be, I
don't know why Is it still there?
I think it might be I wonderwhere it's from.
I don't know.
I'm just messing around here alittle bit.
I don't know why there's a lotof reverb.
I hope it's not too bad.
(24:05):
It's from his phone.
He's saying.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
It could be from your phone.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
I don't know.
You know there's that crack inthe pavement.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Yeah, I see the crack , Tyler.
You see the crack in thepavement.
Does that look familiar?
Maybe when you were inNashville and fell over one
night, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
How do you, here we go, here we go.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
So we're looking at Nashville Blacktop, by the way,
this is there we go, there we go.
Oh, okay.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Now he's back, he's good, I'm still not technology,
technology, technology.
Is that how you say that?
Is that how you say that?
Speaker 1 (24:46):
I don't know that sounds good.
Let me ask you this How's yourbowling game?
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Oh man, bowling is lit bro.
Bowling is lit bro.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
I knew that put a smile on your face, my avid
climber, my avid climber, yeah.
Like two something.
Like two something Mine waslike 225 right now.
All right Cool.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
And I mean professional softball player now
.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Yeah, I know, and somebody commented Nick is on
there, jimmy, let's play somesoftball.
Nick, let's do it Definitelyshout out to my bowling sponsor.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Brunswick.
Shout out to my softballsponsor Mike and Rollins.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
That's cool, it's fun , man, that's what.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
I miss.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Having that fun outside of music.
I miss being a person.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Because I was doing so much, all the time, all the
time.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Being able to actually be a person and my
family and friends it was ararity.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Family and friends it was, you know, a rarity.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Can I ask?
I know bowling is a big thingfor you.
My brother-in-laws are bigbowlers, plus they're softball
players too, so I'm sure they'reprobably watching this.
But let's go back to the musica little bit.
As you rebuild your life andcareer at the same time, are
there artists or people in thecountry scene that have actually
stood by you right along?
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Yeah, there are.
So for me it wasn't aboutpeople coming out publicly
saying anything.
It was just as long, you know,I knew the relationship was
there.
I had a lot of people reach outthat know me, let me know they
know, me.
Let me know they were there forme.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
But also what I went through.
A few people reached out andsaid man.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
It made them want to be a lot more cautious about
their extracurricular activities.
You know, protecting yourselfand all that.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
You know I'm thinking back.
I remember seeing I think itwas the cmas, and I think even
you have a cma award, right youdo yes, and acm and acm.
Now do you still?
You stay away from those or thewhat's going the acms or the
cmas.
I mean you don't have any partof that now, do you?
(27:18):
Well, well, I'm still a CMEmember, you know I definitely
pay attention to what's going onin business, but actually it
was 2022.
I said I kind of wanted to takea break from award shows.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
They're fun, but I felt like I just need a break
from them.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
I got you Focus on the music you know connecting
with you know the listeners.
And I still, you know, I stilltune into the ACMs, I still tune
into the CMA Awards.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
And you know when my friends win, I get nominated.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
I still text them and congratulate them.
I'm happy for them because it'sa it's a heck of a.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Heck of an achievement because it's like
because it's like that means.
That means fellow people in themusic business support what
you're doing, and that's how Ilooked at my my dma win.
Not saying I was the best ofall.
The list of new artists.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
I looked at that award as saying people that work
in the music business look andsay, Jimmy, we see you, we
appreciate what you're doing andwe respect it.
But in no way shape or form didI take that and put it on my
shoulders.
I'm the best.
We're all the best of ourselves.
No one can be Jimmy Allen.
(28:45):
No one can be Jelly Roll.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
No one can be.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Abby Anderson.
No one can be Nate Smith, noone can be the Warren Treaty.
That's so true.
No one can beat a war treaty.
That's so true, I took it asmore being seen and being heard
than being the best.
I remember I believe it was theCMAs you did a bit on stage.
(29:13):
You were celebrating the lifeof oh my.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
God, charlie Pryor.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Yes, that is one moment.
I will never forget the life ofCharlie.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Pryde, thank you.
That is one moment I will neverforget.
I remember sitting in my familyroom watching you on my big
screen, going that is freakingawesome.
That is the best thing I'veever seen.
That was honestly the highlightof my career.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Recording a song with Charlie Pryde and Darius Rucker
, it was on my album, my albumbetty james man, man, that guy
for me was what, what?
(30:00):
Country music was to me becausethe only, only other black
people really, really in countrymusic time was him and before
him he had, before bailey, thefirst black I remember um, so
what yeah?
Yeah, and then charlie and beclose with Charlie and be close
with him, oh my.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
God, dude, that's so cool, you're so blessed.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
I bet he was and he could do a thing where he could
talk to you for five minutes andguess your birthday and he
would be within two to threedays close to it Really.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
That's amazing, see, that's amazing.
He said you know how to do that.
I said, yeah, You're so old,you were born when they created
Zodiac Signs bro.
I love that.
What would you, Jimmy?
What would you tell anotherBlack artist that's trying to
(30:56):
break into the country?
Music side of things, whatadvice would you give that
person?
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Focus on the music, make good songs put on a good
show.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Don't focus on skin color because, every black
artist in country music that hasgood songs put on a great show
has found a way um because youknow, I've had an artist say to
me well, this didn't happenbecause I was, because I was
(31:31):
like I said no, that happenedbecause your songs are trashed I
said, I know a lot of whiteartists that ain't getting no
radio play either there's a lotof them, so I was like the thing
is, I said, use your skin coloras an advantage.
First of all, you'll stand out,make a hit song, because at the
(31:52):
end of the day.
It's about music and no one cancontrol how good or how bad
your songs are, other than you.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
You know like, look, my dad was a Marine and he
raised me to not make excuses.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
You know, life is what life is.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
You are where you are you look like what you look
like You're from where you'refrom, but that doesn't control
your work ethic.
True, you know.
Yeah, I tell all black artiststhat.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
I meet, get started.
We've all had theseconversations make good music
and be honest about music.
Just because you love it, don'tmake it good, you know do you
you're doing shows?
You've Do you you're doingshows?
You've been home.
(32:43):
You're from Delaware.
I know you were home for alittle bit.
You were playing some placesaround your hometown, I think
not all that long ago, which Ithought was great.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
I do a charity show every year.
I play a part of the rest ofthe brothers.
Shout out to my friends Alexand Vicky Cool.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Every year I pick a local school and I play a show
and, instead of getting paid,the money we raise we give to a
local school.
So this past year was my sixthyear doing it this year B7.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
You know.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
I'm looking at some of the comments that are coming
in and there are a ton of thembecause Jimmy Allen is on Skip
Happens, this is so cool.
And a lot of those are like wemiss you, Jimmy.
Let's okay, that's about reverb, but that's being all right.
Somebody says we need to playsoftball.
Give them my number, but that'scool.
(33:39):
So what I'm saying, I guessoverall when I read these
comments, with the exception ofa couple, is they're very
favorable and you've got fansthat want you back on the radio.
You've got fans that are saying, okay, enough time has gone by,
we need to move forward, and Iagree with that.
I think we do, and I think whatyou were getting at in the
(34:01):
beginning when you said you werein some meetings, hopefully
those are things that areeventually going to pan out and
I'm going to be able to put onthe wolf here in Syracuse
because there are a lot ofpeople that are missing you.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
You'll definitely have some.
I actually send you the newsingle.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
I would love to hear it just between you and I.
Yeah, you can play if you.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
I would love to hear it just between you and I.
Yeah, yeah, you can play if youwant to.
I don't care.
See, the good thing about beingindie and having your own label
under distribution.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
there's no red tape.
Do whatever, I'm all about notholding music back just giving
people you know you playwhenever you feel like playing
you know um.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
But yeah, I'm super excited about the music and I
can say this is the first timesince 2018 that I've been happy
as far as like making music andhappy with my life um, because I
am doing what makes me happy,right, not feeling pressure to
(35:15):
do certain things you're doingyour own thing in the way you
want to do it.
Yeah, that's the good thing.
I always make music, put it outwhatever stations want to play
it.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Whoever wants to stream it can stream it whoever
wants to come to the show.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Come to the show.
It's about doing what you love.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Yeah, one thing that really bothered me and to a
certain degree, and then again Ido understand it too, too.
So please don't take this thewrong way but being a program
director, and then, all of asudden, when all this crap went
down, when it went down, it waslike okay, we need to pull jimmy
from the radio.
Jimmy, can't?
You know we were playing songs,whether they're in recurrence
or golds.
(35:52):
I mean, you had so many songsand it was like, okay, no, we're
just gonna.
You know, we're just gonna,we're gonna pull.
You know, I got orders from.
It was like, okay, no, we'rejust going to pull.
I got orders from somebody upabove that said okay, we need to
pull the Jimmy Allen stuff andit's like, but it's almost
saying that you're guiltywithout being proven guilty.
And, as you mentioned a fewminutes ago earlier on in the
podcast, where was the proof,when was the evidence?
(36:15):
Where was?
And so many people do think ithappened, but you know, there's
no proof.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Yeah, it is my thing.
People can think thingshappened, People can think
things didn't happen.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
You know where's the proof If everybody in the world
operated treated people becausethey heard something about them
like there's been so manycountry artists or pop artists
or actors, athletes.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
I met.
And people say oh, thisperson's like this, or they'll
say something about them and Imeet them and I have a
completely different experience.
Because Rumors are rumors andthat's the dangerous part, cause
like literally Someone, guy orgirl, could say Skip said this
(37:07):
to me in a meeting Right Go filea lawsuit and then go write a
story about it, even though ithasn't gone to court, they
haven't shown any evidence, andthen your job would be in danger
because of something or someonethat just ain't sane to me.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
Bro, you know I hate to say this but whether it's me
or anybody else, this happensway too often.
We take a look around the worldright now, with everything
that's going on, there's a lotof hearsay, there's a lot of you
know, he said, she said, andthey're going to do this and
they're not going to do that.
So I mean that's that's a bigproblem right now.
But so, all right, music wise,you're out you're doing the
(37:54):
shows and are they booking?
Directly through you.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
I imagine you have a team now.
You know they reach out, but Idon't accept every show.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
I'm picky you're an independent, why not?
Speaker 2 (38:07):
because where am I at my life right now?
As long as I have finances totake care of what I take care of
.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
Good, good how are the kids?
You have 6 right.
See that brought a smile onyour face.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
I tell you one thing about my oldest is about to be
11, bro you wait listen that guy, that guy, he's funny.
The good thing about Kip theymotivate you.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
They help you remember what's important.
And for me not only set anexample when things are good,
but trying to set an examplewhen things are bad, because
when all this happened 2020, andthey put the art on the same
(39:07):
days, so I remember one artistthat stepped off the red carpet.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Yo just heard this.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
I know you keep your head up there's a lot of things
I could have done to.
I know you, I know it's notkeep your head up.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
To prove my, but it's all about.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
How.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
I will be how my mic, yeah, how my kids.
Once I got, yeah, I could havedid a few things I thought about
to prove, you know, that shewas full of crap.
But how I what?
Speaker 1 (39:54):
I'm able to live with was worth yeah yeah why am I
defending myself against peoplethat?
Speaker 2 (40:04):
don't love me.
So people that love me, I knowthey love me and I'm good.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
I don't need to defend myself, you know no,
exactly, and sometimes I thinkif you try to defend yourself,
it's going to set the impressionin others minds that, alright,
he's got something, he's tryingto cover something up or he's
trying to.
You know, you're better offjust to move.
You know, do what you did, Iguess.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
But what I would have used to defend him.
It wouldn't have been noquestions, All right.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
It wouldn't have been no questions.
All right, no, no.
So anyways, jimmy Allen andyou're parked alongside.
I don't know where you are, butit's getting dark out.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
I know, I see that.
Good job, good job.
I like it.
I kind of like the picture.
That's cool.
Yeah, that's cool, that's cool,but so we can expect some new
music.
We're going to hear from youone way or another shortly, man,
I don't know how.
You know, thinking back, it wasyou know we lost you, while we
(41:10):
didn't lose you.
You're here, but I mean in 2023, it's like, oh, jimmy Allen's
there one day and he's gone thenext, but and now is it hard?
To what do you think?
Let me put it this way what?
What is your biggest obstacleto getting yourself back in
front of fans writing new music?
I mean, what's the biggestobstacle, knowing everything
you've been through, I don'tknow.
(41:33):
As far as like me.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
Well, I don't really see things.
I don't really see anyobstacles Okay, that's good.
I don't really see any options.
Okay, because.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
That's good.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
I look at it like no one can stop me from.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
No one can stop me from.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
You know, you know, like, like.
So Distribution Labels there'sways, there's ways to get, and
there's so many marketing teams,radio teams, digital promotion
teams, available Every stepAbout what I'm working with, but
(42:13):
everything's more about me andmy time and my mindset, because
for a while, every time Ithought about performing or
doing anything in country I wasreminded of that nonsense.
(42:35):
I was reminded of the peoplethat thought we're friends that
left.
I was on my mind.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
The people that thought we're friends that left.
I got you, I totally get it.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
But once I got my mind, you know, I was like okay.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
You gotta take care of yourself mental health is so
important.
Do you still have the same bandMm-hmm?
Speaker 2 (43:00):
No, I have a different band.
No.
Speaker 1 (43:01):
Entirely different band Okay.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
Yeah, I, I I've got guys in my life that I've known
pretty much my whole life.
Great musicians.
Speaker 1 (43:17):
Well, you had a great bunch before.
I remember seeing you at we hada place called Kegs and I
remember you performed there andyou had one band member that
was doing a lot of video stuffand recording a lot of different
things.
I can't think of his name now,but I get it.
Everybody moves on and it's anew beginning, maybe.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
Yeah, and where I'm at musically now and when, I
want my nose to sound like theband I had.
Speaker 1 (43:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
You'll see it, yeah, you'll see.
Oh, like, like, like, like,like, like, like, like, like,
like, like, like, like, like,like, like, like, like, like,
like, like, like, like, like,like, like, like A lot of people
, yeah, a lot of people, andkind of just where my life's at
(44:13):
and when I want to be able to domusic on the fly.
Speaker 1 (44:18):
These guys are good at it.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
They've done it, and these are guys that I've known
for so long and they're bloodcousins.
Speaker 1 (44:34):
Really, I love it.
Yeah, that's cool.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
I'm real selective with who I allow to be.
Speaker 1 (44:48):
Well, I get you, my friend, I get you.
I'm not going to keep you muchlonger here.
I think it's getting dark there.
You could be in a badneighborhood, I'm just saying
I'm busted on you, but it's allgood.
You know I'd love to get you uphere for a show.
I think Jimmy Allen needs to bein the Northeast and hopefully
(45:08):
we would be one of those placeswhere you would come out to play
, is Keg still a.
Speaker 2 (45:13):
thing.
Speaker 1 (45:13):
Keg is still a thing.
Speaker 2 (45:15):
Yeah, I mean yes, as a matter of fact in Jordan.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
Yes, yes, sir, as a matter of fact, your name's
already been bounced around alittle bit Ross Catalino, Back
to Back Entertainment, one ofthe many promoters I'm sure you
come across, but he's the guythat does all that for kegs.
But definitely good stuff, andI think this would be a good
place for you to say hey, I'mJimmy Allen, I'm back.
(45:43):
I never left, but I'm back.
Speaker 2 (45:46):
Yeah, it'll be a good place to play.
You were booked there.
Speaker 1 (45:56):
I'm looking at Tyler over here.
Tyler goes to all those showsyou were booked there.
But when the what's that, ty?
I?
Had tickets to it.
You had tickets to it LastMarch, I think, somewhere around
there.
It was after, I think, therewas Ticket sale thing or
something.
No, we didn't end up doing it.
Speaker 2 (46:17):
Because there was a medical emergency.
Speaker 1 (46:20):
Oh, okay, okay, yeah, yeah, I read.
So there was a medicalemergency.
Speaker 2 (46:26):
We were supposed to do it last March.
Speaker 1 (46:29):
Last March.
Yeah, tyler, he goes.
Yep, I had tickets, still gotthem.
We're going to work on that andJimmy Allen is back and Jimmy,
you opened up tonight and you'vebeen through so much Everything
that has happened good, bad.
Whatever you believe, whateveryou don't believe, this is Jimmy
(46:51):
, this is the real Jimmy andjust, you know, nobody can tell
you what to believe and what notto believe, but hopefully you
will see the light and see whathe's doing and what he's been
through and anybody that, in myopinion, been through anything
like this.
You know I've anything to dosexual abuse, anything like that
(47:14):
.
You know, no, hold the phone,this doesn't happen, but the
it's just.
I don't know it's what I forgot, what I was going to say, but
it's, it's what you believe in,what you don't believe.
So it's just the mental health.
I was going to talk about themental health part of it.
That what it just knowing thatall this happened, whether it
happened, whether it didn'thappen?
(47:35):
There's got to be so much onyour mind.
As you mentioned, you know,suicide was covered in your life
insurance policy and thosethoughts were going through your
mind, so that's and now look atyou and I spent a lot of time,
so a lot of stuff I do I don'tpublicize.
Speaker 2 (47:54):
You know, you know speaking with you know, sexual
assault victims, you knowgrowing up, growing up my mother
my mother went to work and mysister right.
And to have yeah, do that.
Speaker 1 (48:15):
Say that, say that means what really really made me
sick when I see people, I seepeople that you know when I have
trauma, I have trauma for avendetta a vendetta.
Speaker 2 (48:26):
It bothers me.
Um um, you know that that's theone, the one thing that you try
to ruin their life.
Speaker 1 (48:38):
But you see so many, so many of them, right now
because they people know.
Speaker 2 (48:42):
That's the one thing you want to not criminally but
civil law literally how you seesomeone like they're like it's
crazy driving around yourproblem, you know what I mean.
That's something you canthreaten somebody or try to get
vengeance, but I just tellpeople to be smart about
(49:02):
situations.
You put yourself in peoplearound and just move forward
life happens.
Speaker 1 (49:11):
We'll respond and it will keep going, so Um and just
move forward.
Speaker 2 (49:12):
Life happens, we're responding.
Speaker 1 (49:13):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (49:14):
And it will keep going, yeah, so so.
Speaker 1 (49:17):
Jimmy, I love you, bro.
You know what it's just um,it's been great catching up with
you and digging into this alittle bit and hopefully I
didn't go too far.
Speaker 2 (49:27):
Um, hopefully it's all good.
Speaker 1 (49:29):
It's all good, you're such a good man.
Um, I do appreciate that.
I know Tyler.
When I told him, yeah, we'regoing to be talking to Jimmy
tonight, he was like, oh my godreally.
I said, yeah, I got him.
He's very shy, but he loves topush the buttons and stuff.
I'm hoping what.
I went through helps someoneelse because everything you know
(49:52):
, helps someone else, becauseeverything we go through in life
, you know other people can useit and grow from.
It sucks.
Speaker 2 (50:00):
I don't wish this on anybody, Gotcha, but you know I
hope someone out there learnssomething.
Speaker 1 (50:12):
I hope people are careful with their words.
Speaker 2 (50:17):
And even more careful with their actions.
Speaker 1 (50:22):
Well said Wow.
Speaker 2 (50:25):
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (50:26):
All right, jimmy, I think we've kept you out in the
street long enough.
Now you can either go, maybeplay some softball or maybe hit
up the alley.
Speaker 2 (50:37):
I'm about to watch this NFL draft.
Speaker 1 (50:40):
Oh, that's right.
Yes, NFL draft.
Yeah, there you go.
I love it.
All.
Right, I'm not going to keepyou any longer then.
Speaker 2 (50:47):
I'm going to text you my email.
Speaker 1 (50:52):
I'll text you my email Yep, yep, exactly.
Thank you, god bless you.
Thank you for being on the air.
Thank you for watching.
I love you, I'll be safe.
The NFL draft is on, so getyour ass out of the vehicle in
the house in front of thetelevision.
Let's go bro Quickly.
Who's your NFL team?
(51:12):
Eagles, I've been waiting foryou to bring it up because I was
going to give you shit for that.
Did you hear, tyler?
He was going to give you shitfor that.
Who's your team?
You've got to speak up, Ty.
Who's your team?
Cowboys?
Speaker 2 (51:26):
Hot bro, You're from New York.
Speaker 1 (51:30):
It's okay, both guys.
I wanted us to pick are alreadyoff the board.
Speaker 2 (51:32):
We got the Bills.
Speaker 1 (51:33):
The Giants, the Jets Bro, have you been to Dallas.
No.
Speaker 2 (51:41):
Come on, man, they ain't been good.
How old are you?
Are you under?
Speaker 1 (51:43):
40?
I'm 22.
Bro, they haven't been goodyour whole life.
Nope, but as long as we beatthe Eagles, that's okay.
We can go two and 15.
We just got to beat the Eagles.
I'm not even commenting.
I'll see you at Highmarkstadium.
We'll follow the bills.
All right, it's all good, jimmy.
(52:06):
Peace out, brother, you takecare, I'm going to text you my
email.
Send me that.
I'd love to hear it.
Thank you for being on SkipHappens tonight.
Thank you for having me.
All right, tell all yourfriends that said hi.
Tell Jeff, thank you and we'lltalk to you soon.
Brother, all right, will do,will do.
All right, peace out, see you.
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