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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And we're live.
Hey, hey everybody, welcome toanother edition of Skip Happens.
You know the podcast where we,I guess, more or less skip the
small talk, we skip the scriptand occasionally skip recording
all together.
Well, we actually recorded lasttime, but there was, like this,
echo.
We'll talk about that here in aminute as well.
Because, yeah, that's JimmyAllen, but I'm Skip Clark.

(00:22):
I'll guide you through life'sbloopers, brain farts and
bizarre detours.
It's time for you to buckle up.
It's not perfect, I'm justtelling you.
It's not perfect, that's whyit's called Skip Happens, but
it's definitely not boring.
And let's go Tonight's guest.
You know what?
Hang on, here we go.
Hey, this is Jimmy Allen, Ilove you with With everything I
got, girl I'll give you my bestshot.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
And meanwhile, down home oh you know mama's still
cooking Down home.
We're living for a Friday andfreedom was a highway.
Yeah, it might be too soon tosay I love you, but you're going
to make me want to.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
Yeah, jimmy Allen, y'all, oh hell yeah, say I love
you, but you're gonna make mewant to.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
Yeah, jimmy Allen, y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
Yeah, I know those songs, do you.
I was gonna ask if you everheard them before.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
They're like some of my favorites, I was around when
they were created.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
Bet you were Jimmy Allen.
I want to say thank you.
Thank you for taking my calltoday when I reached out to see
if you wanted to come on tonight.
It's all kind of last minute,but you know, ever since the
last time I had you on, I don'tknow what happened, but there
was this echo and it just youknow it was a great echoing like
I had a flip phone.
Yeah, I don't know, maybe you dohave a flip phone man.

(01:46):
The crazy thing is, I'mthinking about going back to a
flip phone or going to no phone.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
you know well, the no phone may not be a bad idea I'm
just saying, but then againit's, you know, it's, I like it,
it's, it's, it's uh peaceful, Iknow, uh, but but hey, before
we get into all this stuff, uh,when I reached out today and I
said what are you doing?

Speaker 1 (02:02):
you go on, dude, I do it.
I'm fishing, I go, cool, cool,how cool.
Now that's peaceful.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
Man, absolutely Peaceful.
I love it.
I'm hooked on it.
You know, some might say I'maddicted to it.
I could be, hey, why not why?
not I tell everybody.
It's always funny to me whenpeople talk about addictions,
right, and I ask someone whatmakes someone addicted?
Because they like to do it andit's their free time.

(02:31):
They do it Because people onlyuse the word addiction when it's
something that they have aproblem with, something bad,
whether it's alcohol, whetherit's a casino or whether it's
whatever.
But I'm like well, you like towatch TV, are you addicted to TV
?
Is it a bad thing?
Some people like to drive.
Are you addicted to driving?
So I don't really.
I think.
I don't think I feel like theword addiction has a.
I feel like the word addictionshould be used cautiously, but

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only when, if there's somethingimportant to do, you choose to
do that over what you need to do.
That's important and that'swhere you know what you like to
do becomes a problem.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
an issue to do becomes a problem an issue, you
know, is your mind alwaysturning.
I mean, because you just talkedabout addiction Always, you
know, and I love that.
I love that about you.
I can't shut my brain off.
I'll be trying.
No, that's not a bad thing,though.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
I'll be trying, but it don't go off.
So let me ask you this, thoughLike today, you said you were
fishing.
I don't know if you're out on aboat or on a pier.

Speaker 3 (03:31):
But so when it's so peaceful.
I was off to surf today.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
Oh, okay.

Speaker 3 (03:33):
A couple of days ago I took my son out.
We went out on the boat.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
Cool, cool.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
Do you have a boat?
So I used to have a boat untilI joined this boat club called
Freedom Boat Club.
So I was like, hmm, I can keepmy boat and not have to worry
about gas and fixing it and oilchanges, putting it in the water
, taking it out of the water.
Or I can join Freedom Boat Cluband I go online reserve the
boat I want I drive up to thedock the boat's in the water,

(04:02):
hop on it and go and when youcome back, come back, you come
back.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
you just get out and get back in the car and go home.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
What boat club to join y'all?
Freedom boat club.
They have them in delaware, newjersey, maryland, florida.
They're all over the place.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
They got things out of michigan too, yeah so, um,
you know, we all know that youleft nashville, you, you went
back home.
What's it like to be back homefor you?
This is, this is home man, Ilove it.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
Like I, my plan always was to go to nashville
long enough just to get mycareer going and get stable and
then leave because a lot ofthings I like to do nashville
doesn't have.
The ocean don't have it, thebay don't have it, can't gamble
in person or online, especiallynot in nashville yeah, it's too
far from new york you know it's,it's too far from jersey and

(04:44):
philadelphia and dc places.
I like to go a lot, um, you know, because like the closest beach
, like the drive is like eighthours, that's terrible, like I
didn't realize how, and that'swhat's too much of a big city
for me, I don't know it's evenbigger.
Yeah, I don't like it, like Imiss.
I enjoyed the old nashville.
That was cool, like I miss, Ienjoyed the old Nashville.

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That was cool but kind of whatit's grown into.
It's a good thing for businessand I'm glad it's a place where
you know has brought business inwhere people can have jobs to
support their family.
But what I'm into like nah, I'mgood.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
Yeah, I don't blame you, my friend, I don't blame.
I mean I love Nashville, Don'tget me wrong, but I'm not
exactly.
You know what I do.
You'd be really surprised to toknow that I'm not a real people
person.
I just you know I love what Ido.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
It's like I like people, but I don't like people
exactly exactly tyler, do youlike people um?
All right that's because, mostof the stuff I do in, like my
free time, like I enjoy being onstage and entertaining people,
exactly, you know, letting themhave a good time, exactly.
But as far as hanging out, Itypically isolate.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
You know I get it, and that's you know.
That's another reason you'readdicted to fishing.

Speaker 3 (05:58):
Absolutely, because now there ain't nobody out on
that boat, but you and the kids,and I don't mind, you know
people when I'm playing softballor bowling, because I can still
just isolate into my team.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, exactly the lane I'mgoing on.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
Let's talk about you, though just a little bit, and
some of these questions I mayhave asked on the previous
podcast, but because it was sowell, let me put it this way
skip happened and I feltterrible when I listened back
and went oh no, jimmy, you'resuch a star, and to get you on
and then to have that happen.
But you know back in the dayhow fast things disappeared for

(06:33):
you the shows, the brand deals,a movie, even an ice cream
collab.
Was it true that you felt likethe industry just gave up on you
too fast?

Speaker 3 (06:43):
You know I did.
I would say I felt like a lotdid, but a lot didn't you know,
what I mean.
Um you know, it's one of themthings where the people that
knew me personally didn't thepeople that just knew you know
the artist and that and whatthey read yeah, and the image

(07:04):
that they wanted to give mebased off not having a single
conversation with me.
You know, it's just.
It's kind of just what happens.
Like you know, people do ittoday.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
But you're on your feet, dude, you're back on your
feet.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
Yeah, man, you know, for me I was always on my feet.
You know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
Maybe just a little bit taller.
Yeah, a.

Speaker 3 (07:21):
Maybe just a little bit taller.
Yeah, a little bit taller, butit's one of the things where you
kind of just because showopportunities came back, offers
came back like six, seven monthsafter, but I just decided to
just step away.
I was writing, playing softball, hanging with my kids bowling,

(07:41):
just enjoying life and trying tofind that spark again.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
You know, what I think a lot of people don't
realize is you're human, I'mhuman and we all make mistakes.
I mean we've all been there.
I mean I know your story alittle bit and it's like, well,
you know, if somebody else wasin your shoes, it could be
almost the same thing.
It's just crazy crap.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
Oh, absolutely, man.
It's just one of the thingswhere I tell people life is
going to happen regardless.
Things can go things can't, butthe only thing you can really
control is how you choose tooperate.
When certain things happen.
You can keep moving, you know.

(08:28):
You can go into a shell and beafraid of what people might
think of you, and I can tell youright now I don't give a damn
what people think about.
I love you for that.
I really don't.
Because here's the thing nomatter what you choose to do
with your life, no matter whatyou choose to believe in, no
matter what you choose to dowith your life, no matter what
you choose to believe in, nomatter what people say about you
, some people are going to likeyou, some people aren't it's

(08:50):
life.
And that's okay.
You just focus on what you loveand surround yourself with
people that love you, and ifyou're an artist, and music you
make is for people that like itand the people that don't.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
A lot of people in the world.
Oh yeah, oh yeah, and I thinkyou're gonna find out, there's
more people that like you, thatdo not.
Yeah, I mean, I just I alreadyknow that from what I hear every
day and you know, now thingshave kind of settled down a
little bit.
It's good to have you back, butdo you think, uh, being a black
man in country music changedhow your situation was actually
handled?
Damn right, I'm not an idiot,no, I know, I mean yeah, I I I.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
I hate when people, when people the dumbest phrase I
hate I don't see color.
Are you blind?
You, you know what color shoesyou wearing.
You know what color hat youwearing.
You know what color your car is.
How you not what color hat youwear.
You know what color your car is.
How do you not know the skincolor of people?
My thing is, it's not aboutbeing racist, it's about being
mindful that we live in asociety where sometimes things

(09:55):
go differently based on yourskin color, because based on
whoever is judging you at themoment, how they grew up, what
they were taught, what mediasays, what media doesn't say.
So yeah, of course I would be.
You know, do I see color?

(10:15):
Hell, yeah, I see color.
Do I treat people differentlybecause of color?

Speaker 1 (10:18):
No, I'm just a white boy doing a podcast.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
You know what I mean.
I don't care.
I do love a lot of racist jokes, though think don't get me
going, it's all good.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
I don't I love it.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
I think, I think, uh, I think stereotypes are
hilarious but, at the same time,like I tell people, it's about
no matter what your job is, ifyou're a musician or if you have
a nine to five job based on thejob.
Sometimes you can run intoissues based on your skin color.
So the thing is understandingit and knowing it, going into it

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and then you know maneuveringthe way you need to maneuver to
get where you need to go.
It's everything's strategy.
Everything's about strategy.
And I tell people, when it comesto a lot of times,
entertainment it's not about howyou perceive yourself, it's
about how people view you.
Yeah, and once you understandhow people view you, right, then

(11:13):
you can understand how you needto move in certain situations.
You know Because I understandwhen I I understood when I first
came into country music as ablack guy, I can't wear Jordans
on stage.
I couldn't wear Jordans and ajersey because I'd be a hip-hop
artist, but yet other artistscould, whether it was my boy Ty

(11:35):
Hubbard whether it was my boyMitchell Tenpenny, whether it
was my boy Morgan.
They can do that because of theskin color.
You know what I'm saying,because of the image it it looks
, because when people see ablack guy in jordan's, they
automatically he's a rapper.
You know, I'm saying like thesame thing, like, and that's
just based off because of howthe genre is.

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And then some people might say,oh no, that's not true, that
you're an idiot, it is okay,don't be naive, because that's
right, because you know, we knowgood and well.
You know, I mean, if my boyjellyroll was black, it wouldn't
happen.
Country music is not going toaccept a, a, a black guy with

(12:17):
face tattoos that has had acriminal past.
It ain't gonna happen.
But what I love is see,jellyroll knows that.
But I love that he made thebest with his opportunity and
he's also bridging the gap to alot of different people.
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely.

Speaker 3 (12:36):
And that's what I love.
You know what I mean?
Absolutely, because I evenexperienced it with radio
interviews, right?
Someone would interview me.
So what got you into countrymusic, right?
Someone would interview me.
So what got you into countrymusic, right?
This lady asked me that and Isaid to her I said question how
many white artists have youasked that question?
To Think about it.
And she said I said you'll askthem who your influences are and

(12:57):
where you grew up, but youdon't ask them what got you into
country music, because when yousee a black guy, think you know
, what does he know aboutcountry, you know?
I said I'm not I said I'm notanswering that question.
I said, ask me something else.
But I said, a lot of times, youknow, we can have things that
we do, and I'm not.
She didn't do it maliciously,you know.

(13:18):
I'm saying, but a lot of times,you know, because people,
people see with their eyes, butpeople also hear with their eyes
, right, and I didn't, I didn'ttake offense to the question.
I just like to challenge peopleto think for themselves, right,
and to actually put thought andbe intentional with things you
do, even something that shemight do every day, like a radio

(13:40):
interview.
You know what I mean.
But because it's still a radiointerview and you still want to
get to know someone, yeah, sowhen you ask someone about what
got you in the country, I had tochallenge that that's, that's I
love that.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
I love that you push back like that.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
You have to, you know , because I feel like that's the
only way to get people to startthinking for themselves,
because we live in a world rightnow where everybody has a lot
of sheeples I like a lot of lazythinking people out there you
had yeah, you had to be thinkingwhat a stupid idiot from to ask
me that question.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
What got me, what got you into country music?

Speaker 3 (14:16):
because I mean, you know you, you, you think about
it, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
Like it's because have you ever asked a white
artist that question?

Speaker 3 (14:23):
if you think about no , no, no.
I don't think I've ever asked awhite artist that question.
No, no, no.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
I don't think I've ever asked a black artist that
question.
It's just not the thing to doNow.
I know everybody's differentand I have a lot of respect for
my colleagues and people that dothose interviews, but it's just
you need to take a few minutesand think about what you're
going to do, how are you goingto interview, and you already
know with me it's pretty real,it's, it's real and that's what

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makes yours so great, becausethank you.

Speaker 3 (14:52):
You know, when you do things like radio row at cma
yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, peopleask the same question.
Tell me about the single.
Tell me it's boring, likepeople say.
Well, how do we keep artistsengaged?
Ask them something that mostpeople don't.
You could say, hey, when youwrote this song.
That's my crazy.
But when you wrote this song,what were you wearing?

Speaker 1 (15:12):
dude, that's exactly what I do.

Speaker 3 (15:13):
I'll say well, you wear sweats when you wear jeans
and what made you wear that andlike you have a different type
of conversation that'll keep theartist engaged and it'll take
it from one word questions to aconversation no, exactly, and
that's what I do here.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
Skip happens, we're not perfect.
We're gonna have fun, it's.
It's just like you know, I'llturn down a road, we'll get
completely off off subject, likewe were in the beginning.
We were talking about fishing,I think.

Speaker 3 (15:38):
I believe you're out to me.
That's all on subject, becausewe're just here to have a
conversation.
So whatever the hell we talkabout, what we talk, we talk
about.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
Cool.
And, by the way, how manyflounder did you bring home?

Speaker 3 (15:47):
I didn't bring none home.
I was too lazy to cook them, soI gave them to my cousin.
How many did you get?
I got three today.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
Yeah, and you said you're going for tuna tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
Yeah, we're going for tuna Thursday.

Speaker 1 (15:59):
Holy shit.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
That means you're gonna go auto ways for that,
right, yeah, we go about likelike about 50, 60 miles out.
Oh, you ain't swimming back toshore.
Uh, hell, if you do, there'sbeen a problem out there.
Damn it, if you do something,if you if you swimming back,
skip happened, all right.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
It's more than skip happens.

Speaker 3 (16:19):
Skip is done that's all it is.
Do it.
My dad used to had his hat thatsaid.
That said shit happens on thatI love that.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
I love that.
I love that.
Do um.
You're good friends withpatrick mahomes, right yeah, I
know pat, yeah do you guys stillkeep in touch and all that.
So you must um, I haven't.

Speaker 3 (16:36):
I haven't talked to him in a minute.
How cool is that?
You know I, I was, uh, you knowI, I, I it's.
So my son is a huge patch of myown thing oh my god and but
he's also an eagles fan, so myson kind of felt a certain way,
you know, when, uh, the eagleswere giving that work I loved it
, you know hopefully that theyneed to get a new offensive line

(16:59):
, because their offensive linewas terrible.
They look they look like grownmen all season playing against
other teams, but when they runwith some eagles they look like
grown men all season playingagainst other teams, but when
they run with some eagles theylook like little boys.
So hopefully that's the firstthing they did.
I gave every last one of themthe pink slip.
Okay, I'm sorry you guys aredone.
Listen, man, pat ain't neverbeen touched that much in his
life, and we wasn't evenblitzing.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
I loved it tyler's my football guy over here.
He's, he's now.

Speaker 3 (17:25):
He's just over here shaking his head he doesn't talk
to him and the commander's beltto ass okay damn.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
What do you think about the bills?

Speaker 3 (17:34):
come on okay, I pay them every month I pay my
electric I love that bills.
I don't have no problem withthe Bills.
I don't hate the CCC, I justhate the Cowboys.
Yeah.
Like I hate the Cowboys so much.
Yeah.
If they offered me a milliondollars to perform in a Cowboys

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stadium, I'd say no.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
Dude.

Speaker 3 (17:59):
I'm dead serious, bro .

Speaker 1 (18:00):
That's another reason why I don't think I'll ever If
the Cowboys came up to you andsaid look we want you to do the,
the halftime show.

Speaker 3 (18:11):
We're gonna pay you a million bucks.
No, to do that.
No see, eagles fans aredifferent.
Even if I did that, eagles fanswould let me.
They would let me have it andwould not.
They don't.
There's just certain things youthink so absolutely listen.
Why do?
Here's the thing I'm hoping theACMs do.
I hate the Cowboys more thanthe Yankees.
I absolutely hate the Cowboysmore than the Yankees.

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Here's the thing I'm hoping theACMs move back to Vegas, because
I'm not going until they getout of Dallas close to the
practice facility of the Cowboys.
Wow, I hate them that much, bro.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
Wow, I hate them that that much, bro.
Wow, hey, um, do you um?
I know you're enjoying doingyour own thing and, uh, you seem
very happy now.
Much respected, um, for whatyou're doing.
But do you hope to somedaymaybe be back on the ACMs or be
involved with the CMAs?
Or can they go and kiss yourass?

Speaker 3 (19:07):
You know what I mean.
I like what the ACMs and theCMA stand for during the work.
So for me it's not about theaward show, right, for me it's
about the community work they doand I'd always and I always
love to be a part of thecommunity work.
Like, as far as, like thepopularity and the fame side
that comes with performing onthe show, whether it's the cmas

(19:30):
or the acms, I, I could livewith it, I could live without it
.
But you know I, I definitely.
You know damon whiteside, youknow he's, he's, he runs acms.
Love that guy.
Any community thing they havegoing on, count me in to be a
part of it.
But just as far as, like, Iguess, fame chasing stuff, um, I

(19:51):
wouldn't say I wouldn't do it,but I would say it's not
something I'm sitting aroundhome thinking about.
You know, I'm not.
I'm not thinking aboutperforming cmas, I'm not
thinking about performing toacms, but am I thinking about
giving and helping out with thecharities that the acms and the
CMAs?

Speaker 1 (20:04):
are a part of.

Speaker 3 (20:05):
Absolutely Cool.
I love the work they do foreducation, for kids, for schools
, acm, living Lives, cmaFoundation.
I see I'm all about.
Like the older, I get you know.
Hey, what are you 26?

Speaker 1 (20:20):
Nah, man, I'm 40.
No, you didn't have to tell meI was like busting.
Yeah, I'm 40.
No, you didn't have to tell me,I was like busting.

Speaker 3 (20:25):
Yeah, I'm 40.
Absolutely.
Dude, you're just a kid BlackLone Crack, nah.
But for me it's just aboutdoing things that matter.
You know what I mean.
To where?
If I got a performance spot onthe CMAs or the ACMs, yeah, it's
cool.
But to be invited to go withthem to?

(20:48):
A school to talk to kids,that's yeah yeah, what?

Speaker 1 (20:50):
um jimmy, if I may ask somebody that's been through
everything you've been, you'vebeen through, I mean, you've had
all those hits.
You know, we know what happened.
And now you, you're back at itputting out some great music.
And, by the way, you sent methe single, or you sent me a
song, last time we had talkedLast time yeah, and I'll be
honest with you.
I listened to it and went thisis radio ready.

(21:12):
This needs to go on the radio.
We need to talk some more aboutthat here in a little bit.
But what advice would you giveto somebody that wants to do
what you're doing?
But how can they make sure that?
I guess?
What advice can you give them?

Speaker 3 (21:32):
Keep your circle small.
Surround yourself with peoplethat love you and people that
have shown you that they'rethere for you.
Never lose your hobbies thatmake you happy, because when you
lose your hobbies, you slowlystart to lose a piece of
yourself.
Cause I was, you know, I didthat to where I was just chasing
TV, music, TV, music, TV music.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
You got lost in the wrong.

Speaker 3 (21:56):
Yeah, chasing this fake lifestyle Cause that
stuff's not real man, it's not.
It's not reality.
Reality set in when the showwas over and I got to change my
kid's dirty diaper, you knowwhat I'm saying?

Speaker 1 (22:09):
Yeah, just like the rest of us.
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (22:12):
I tell new artists all the time this music business
is nothing but a job.
That's all it is.
It just so happens that our jobsometimes is on television and
sometimes it's in front ofpeople.
But I would say, remember whoyou are.
Um.
Make songs that you love.
Um read contracts completely.
Um.
Don't just sign it cause youneed money.

(22:33):
If you need money, go getanother job.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
Hmm, that's good, that's good you know ownership,
ownership's important.
Yes, absolutely important.
Yes, absolutely.
You do you own all your ownmaterial right now, do you like?
If you go back to down?

Speaker 3 (22:53):
home and you know all those great songs, so I don't,
I don't, so I don't own um downhome anything yet, but the new
stuff I'm putting out now I own.
I own because of the the newdeal that I have.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
Um, it's a split where I own majority of the
masters nice ownership'simportant like same thing with
my publishing, like I probablywon't sign another publishing
deal where do you, um, when yougo to record a new song, where
do you go?
Do you go back to nashville oryou just stay away from that?

Speaker 3 (23:18):
um, sometimes I do um , and they have this studio in
delaware that I record a lot atokay, okay a lot, lot of guys,
all my guys I still write withstill live in Nashville.
So I go to Nashville to write,hang out with them, catch up,
cool.
You know my oldest son stilllives there, so he's with me for
the summer.
I got you and we get him everyother holiday.

(23:38):
So typically every couple weeksI'll be in Nashville just
hanging out with him.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
Then I'll'll write meet people, um, because half
half of my team is in um, is innashville, la, and miami, yeah,
and we're in new york now too,so that's, that's very cool.
How old is your son?
That's uh, 11, 11.
God bless him.
What's his name?
Aiden, and what are the othernames?

Speaker 3 (24:03):
I got got Aiden, you got Naomi Zara.
You got to roll your eyes.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
It's like oh God, what are the kids Trying to get
all the names straight.

Speaker 3 (24:13):
Aiden, naomi, zara, amari, aria Cohen and Alani.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
Oh, I love those names.
That's seven.
Yeah, it's not your.
Those aren't your typical names.
I names that seven.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
Yeah, it's not you.
Those aren't your typical names.
I love that yeah and the crazything is, I got to name I got to
name all my kids you did howcool, yeah, yeah, yeah, I uh.
It's important to me because Ibelieve there's power in a name
and a lot of times, before Iname any of my childhood, I'm
going to research and see whatthat name means, because I feel
like whatever the name is,whatever that means, I honestly
believe that's energy and andeverything in that name that

(24:49):
you're sending to your kids.
Like, I don't know if anybodyout there named damien, but I
would never name my child damiensomebody named me skip, so I
don't know what the hell thatwas about.
Just because of you know thedefinition of the word.
Yeah, no, I know I got you Ihave.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
Yeah, totally understand that.
So, totally, totally.
So.
Uh, when was your last 300 game?

Speaker 3 (25:09):
you're crazy, because I've never had a 300.
I've had you're the pro bowlerdude I've had 13 299s.
I've had so many 288s I can'tcount.
I've had a few 291s, 298s, 297s, that 300, man, that 300 is
rough.
But I've batted 1,000 a bunchof times in my softball
tournament.

Speaker 1 (25:29):
I was going to say now softball, yeah, Wow, yeah
yeah, so I'm officially a prosoftball player.

Speaker 3 (25:35):
Now I'm officially softball.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
So how does one become a pro softball player?
Is that like Major LeagueBaseball?

Speaker 3 (25:43):
Yeah, so there's a lot.
There's companies out there,like mike in easton, uh, worth
sure, um, and you know they havebats and gloves and stuff like
that and technically, once youget paid, you're no longer an
amateur.
Um, so there's a fewtournaments.
They pay me to play cool, yeah,hey, they play you to play ball
, why not?

(26:03):
Yeah, and they definitely don'tpay me because of my name.
They didn't.
They didn't offer mesponsorships or anything until I
got good and I'm not great, butI'm okay yeah, but yeah, you're
getting paid to play softball,which you love.
You get, uh, you're pro bowler,so you're getting paid to bowl,
and it's so funny because peoplewill be like the ball's coming
in so slow anybody can hit itover over the fence.
Okay, come try it.

(26:24):
I brought one of my buddies outthere.
That was this you know collegebaseball player.
He kept popping up.
I said see, the ball's comingin slow.
To angle you dip your shoulder.
It's going straight up and likethis.
And it's a lot harder than itlooks, cause sometimes these
guys like I think my off the batis in between 98 and like 105
mile an hour off the bat.
Right, some of these guys outhere playing they're hitting

(26:46):
that thing off the bat 120, 130mile an hour.
That's, that's huge forsoftball.
Oh yeah, because you got togenerate that momentum yourself,
because you know baseball, theball's coming in fast.
Yeah, you make contact andstart creating movement.
But softball, you got to createyour own momentum and I love it
.
It's fun, you know, get time tohang out with the guys, like my
older brother, uh me oh, that'scool we're playing ball because

(27:08):
we couldn't play togethergrowing up because he's 15 years
older than me, um, so you know.
He played in college, gotdrafted by the mets, played for
the mets for a while no way he,you know he's been chilling and
he started swinging with me lastweek and we had our first
tournament together.
That's the first time he's helda bat in 15 years.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
And he's got 15 years on you.

Speaker 3 (27:27):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:28):
Dude, that's you know that is cool that is cool.

Speaker 3 (27:32):
So we're playing senior ball now, 40 and up.
I love it Cool.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
Well, we're the Mets when it comes to baseball.
We're talking about thevelocity of the ball coming off
that bat.
And you're right, the pitch iscoming in at 95 miles per hour.
And then?
Bam I get on that baseball.

Speaker 3 (27:52):
I played in this uh baseball league three years ago.
I got hit with 85 mile an hoursoftball on the rims.
I said, yeah, I'm done, this isstupid that's gonna leave a
mark I am not.
I am not getting paid for this.
Okay, I am.
This is I'm done with it.
I quit.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
One thing we don't want you to do is quit music.
So what?
You've got this.
You've got this tour happen andsee it online.
I think it's like I sawSyracuse on the schedule and I
took a screenshot and I text itto you going dude, what's all
this about?

Speaker 3 (28:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
And tell us what's going on.
It's you and you're goingacoustic right, yes, so.

Speaker 3 (28:29):
I've been.
I've had this idea to cause Iso a lot of times at my shows.
My shows are all over the place.
It's a country show, a rockshow, hip hop show, comedy show
and story time all at the sametime.
Right, because I spent yearstrying to figure out how do I
make my show different than fromeveryone else and my mom was
like be yourself, there's onlyyou.
So only time people can get anexperience you give them if they

(28:51):
come to your show.
So I like telling storiesbehind the songs, right?
So I was like man, I want to doan acoustic tour where I, you
know, I perform the songs we gettalk about like the inspiration
behind the song, inspirationbehind the video, and kind of
let people really get to knowthe personal side of the song.

(29:11):
And the cool thing is they getto compare what inspired me to
what they feel when they hear it.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
I love that, I love what you're doing.
It's just you and a guitar, Iguess, yep, and my keyboard
player and my keyboard player.

Speaker 3 (29:27):
And in between that you know, we'll still do some
fullback shows and stuff likethat, and then there's a couple
of shows we actually mightswitch to fullback, but we'll
still talk.
You know, talk about yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, yeah, see, I love
that.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
I mean, as a radio station we do a lot of shows
like that.
It's just the artists and theguitar and you know we do
showcase and they tell storiesabout their songs and it's just
to me it's, it's an intimatething and it's something that,
as a music lover, you will neverforget.
You will never forget how jimmyallen sat there and told us
what whatever you know this songwas all about and what made him

(30:03):
write it, what you know, thefeelings behind that.

Speaker 3 (30:05):
So yeah, I always think stuff like that's
important.
Um, you know, because you youhear songs, right, and as a as a
music fan myself, I've alwayswondered like man, what, what
made them write that?
Yeah, how did they, how didthey come up with that?

(30:26):
You know what I mean, and it'salways cool to you know, it's
always cool to get a chance to,you know, give the backstory of
the song and kind of hear thebackstory of the song.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
No, I love that.
I know, Rod, he's asking awhere in syracuse.
I know for a fact it's.
It's at a place called middleages brewing yeah, I have.

Speaker 3 (30:53):
I have no idea what a share syracuse show is.
I am the worst person to askthat question what like?

Speaker 1 (31:00):
it's like with any artist dude.

Speaker 3 (31:02):
It's like even playing softball, people be like
jim.
You know what inning it were.
Like Jim, you know what inningit is.
I said I don't know what inningit is.
I don't have to score.
The only thing I know is Icatch the ball and I hit the
ball.
No team.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
Well, I mean, how true is it?
As an artist, you go out on theroad, yeah, you know you're
going to hit so many cities inso many days, but the reality is
the bus takes you to where youneed to go.
You get off.
You probably, probably got togo.
Okay, where are we today?

Speaker 3 (31:34):
oh, we're in syracuse okay, good many times, yeah, I
get it, though.
I totally get it.
How many times I didn't knowwhere I was.
All I saw was the road, thehotel and that's it Skip.

(31:54):
What's your station card again.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
It's 92.1 the Wolf.

Speaker 3 (31:59):
I'm posting this on my live.
Hold on.

Speaker 1 (32:01):
Oh, dude, you're awesome, you're awesome.

Speaker 3 (32:03):
Man, I almost forgot.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
But it's my Skip happens podcast.
But it is live on our facebooktoo tonight, so it's on the
radio station facebook.
We've had a lot of uh, a lot oflisteners ask about it's the
wolf.

Speaker 3 (32:16):
What is it?

Speaker 1 (32:17):
it's 92.1 there it is 92.1 and uh, it's Syracuse.
You know up where you played atthe fair a bunch of years ago
oh yeah, good times, by the waydon't you have relatives or
somebody in the area?
I think that day when I talkedto you, you said you were

(32:40):
somewhere you know black people,we got cousins everywhere.
I don't know I'm people.
We got cousins everywhere.

Speaker 3 (32:49):
I don't know I'm white and I got cousins
everywhere.
You want to know what's sofunny.
I heard the funniest.
Heard the funniest thing onInstagram or Tik TOK, whatever
Somebody was like.
He said you know one thing I'venever heard a white person say,
when you call him, what Hangingat my cousin's house.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
Have you ever heard that?

Speaker 3 (33:09):
No, it's crazy when you think about it, right?
Relative family member.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
I was like have I ever heard that?

Speaker 3 (33:22):
And even if they are at their cousin's house, you
know uh yeah, that's pretty,that's pretty funny.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
Oh my God, it's hilarious.

Speaker 3 (33:32):
I love, I love, uh, I love, I love, uh.
Stereotypes are pretty prettywell yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
Well, you know, you've got a good attitude with
that and I love it, becausethere'd be some people,
especially this day and age,they'll say you know, screw you
buddy, we don't need you know.

Speaker 3 (33:46):
you know, people are just they can be assholes
absolutely and I love, you know,like I even do that in my
comments sometimes, man.
So you know, a lot of timespeople forget that I, you know,
I do stand-up comedy, so I havedays where I have whoa, whoa,
whoa time out.

Speaker 1 (33:59):
I didn't, I didn't know, you did stand-up comedy,
oh yeah, it's, it's pretty, it'spretty wild man I've what is
there anything that jimmy allendoes not do?

Speaker 3 (34:08):
Yeah, communicate well and obviously marriage, but
other than that, you know, dude, I've been there, been there
Been there, I know, I know.
Nah, it's fun.
I've definitely See for me.
I don't.
I think I've lost my filter,but you know I've said stuff on

(34:29):
stage where people might cancelyou for.
But for me jokes is jokes To me, everybody's fair game.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
You know, if you can't take it, you shouldn't be
there.

Speaker 3 (34:36):
Oh, absolutely.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
You know what I mean?
I mean, I get the same thingwhen I do radio stuff.
It's the it's the same thingdude.

Speaker 3 (34:43):
So I have.
So I have days where you knowI'll see some comments on my
thing and I'm not that.
It was crazy to me howsometimes people think they can
post whatever they want oncomment, whatever they want on
somebody's page, but if theartist or the actor responds oh
you're being mean.
Nah, listen, there's this oneguy.
He posted something.
I roasted him in about sixparagraphs, just what he thought

(35:04):
I was done.
Then I went to his instagrampage and got a bunch of pictures
and I tore him up.
I said, bro, I got time today.
I said I'm giving you theattention that you claim you
might want but you're not goingto want it.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
We need to talk about this.
I'll invite you over to mycousin's house and we'll kind of
your relatives, my relatives,my family members.
Exactly, I had Tyler over here.

Speaker 3 (35:28):
He's like he's falling, your relatives, my
relatives.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
Your family members, my family members, your loved
ones.
Yeah, exactly, exactly.
I had Tyler over here.
He's like he's falling asleep.
I don't know what's.

Speaker 3 (35:34):
Because he's a Cowboys fan.
They've had boring seasons thelast few years.
That's why he's falling asleep.
Yeah, I just want to point out.
You said you wouldn't go toDallas.
Your tour starts in Dallas,close to the Cowboys stadium or
in the Cowboys.

Speaker 1 (35:53):
In the stadium, even if they offered him a million
bucks.

Speaker 3 (35:57):
If the Cowboys could offer me a million dollars to do
a halftime show.
I would say no, I'd saycompletely no.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
So would you rather win the Super Bowl or beat the
Cowboys twice, but you loseevery other game.

Speaker 3 (36:15):
Oh, beat the Cowboys twice.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
Okay, we agree on that, but the Eagles Only team
we gotta beat.

Speaker 3 (36:24):
You know, you know we , as Eagles fans man, you know
we, we've got used to winning.
You know, don't get me wrong,man we had it rough when the
Cowboys were doing their thingback in the 90s, and ever since
then, I don't know.
I don't know what happened.
I think they cursed.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
I don't know what happened.

Speaker 3 (36:44):
I'm happy to see it, though I hope it keeps going.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
Well, time will tell, time will tell time will tell
time will tell hey, uh, so let'sgo back to the music for a
minute or two or three.
Um, what about, like, is jimmyallen gonna be dropping an album
?
What are we gonna do to get youback out there?
What can we do?
What can I do as a radio guy?

Speaker 3 (37:05):
because we need you back man, you know we have uh uh
two singles coming out beer 99and and small town anthem.
So small town anthem is more ofthe you know straight down the
middle, jimmy allen, typicalradio song that's the one I
believe I said.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
Was radio ready?

Speaker 3 (37:24):
I could tell just by listening to it and beer 99 is
more of the country influencebut it has more of a hip hop
appeal.
So what I do right to getfeedback, because for me it's
important for you know some ofmy songs to reach people that
don't listen to country music.
So I have some cousins thatlive in California that don't
listen to country.
They've never heard of LukeRyan, never heard of Morgan

(37:46):
Wallen, never heard of LukeCombs, the luke ryan never heard
of morgan wallen, never heardof luke combs.
The only country they've everheard of is garth brooks, right?
So what I do is songs that I Iwant to appeal to people that
don't listen to country.
I'll send it to my cousins,right, and they'll ride around
listen to.
Oh, I like this, I like thisfamily, relative, yeah, but go
ahead exactly so I sent beer 99and they said, oh dude, this
slaps.
I said cool.
Then I sent him another one.

(38:07):
What do you think about this?
I said cool, all right, sothese are the two songs that I
know I can Small Town Anthem,you know we'll go for more.
You know the country, formatand playlisting and all that
stuff for that.
And then Red 99, we'll stillshoot some country, but go more
of like alternative route, likeurban radio, urban playlisting,
stuff like that.
Because you know, if this musichas an amazing way to bring

(38:32):
people together, yeah so, andthere's a lot of songs that
people will connect with thatyou wouldn't expect it because,
honestly, what separates genresfor me is the production.
You can literally take a songright, change a few words,
change the production.
Then you got a hip-hop song.
Change the production.
You got a pop song, change theproduction, then you got a
hip-hop song.
Change the production, you gota pop song.
Change the production, you gota rock song.

(38:54):
Drag out some of the phrasesand that's really what it is.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
The production and phrasing is really, I feel, like
what sets apart a lot of um,and I think you know I hear a
lot of this music come in, jimmy, and I think it's not only what
you just said, but but it'salso the processing of the music
which will make it.
It'll give it a different sound.
Sometimes it's clipping, andit's clipping on purpose, and
that's I mean.
It just makes it.

(39:17):
I don't know if that makessense at all, but I can hear the
difference, you know there's alot that goes into it.

Speaker 3 (39:24):
Yeah, and I'm a fan of you know mixing track
production with live instruments.
So a lot of times what I do nowis I'll have one of my pop guys
or my hip-hop buddies make atrack, I'll write to it, but
then I'll go into the studiowith my band and we put live
instruments over it to where youstill got that backbeat and it

(39:46):
feels good, but at the same timeyou got the live instruments
over top of it.
I call it a shout out to myboys, louis Short for this
phrase deep fried veggies whereit's, you know it tastes good,
but it's also good for you.
I like that.
So deep fried veggies, deepfried veggies, yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
That was over at the relative's house.

Speaker 3 (40:07):
Claude Kelly, Chuck Harmony.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
I love it.
I love that.
Hey we're talking a little bitabout different styles of music,
some of the collaborationsyou've had, I mean what,
babyface, t-pain, ceelo.

Speaker 3 (40:20):
I think I don't remember back.
John Nelly, J-Lo Dude, Me andElton John did a song together
on his record called thelockdown sessions, and the
craziest thing, the coolestthing was sitting in the studio
with I'll text you the picturesitting in the studio with elton
watching elton sing words to asong that I co-wrote.

(40:44):
It was crazy to me and I'm justsitting there and then here's
what tripped me up when heturned around and said Jimmy,
did I do okay?
I said bro you're Elton John,bro, you can burp on the record.

Speaker 1 (40:54):
I don't care.

Speaker 3 (40:56):
But it shows the humanity, the human side of
people that no matter how manypeople think someone's amazing,
we still sometimes have our owninsecurities.
But he showed up fly, though hehad this Bitty and the Jets
jacket on.
He was confused and, I'm sure,cost more than anything I own.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
I'm sure Wow.

Speaker 3 (41:18):
He was a cool dude and how it happened was I was
like, man, I want to write asong, elton John.
So I met my boy, tyler Bird,that knew this writer, that knew
a writer that's friends withelton.
We wrote the song.
He called out and sent it toelton, asked him if he would
want to do it.
I mean he said yeah.
I was like because I'm like allI can say is no right and like,

(41:40):
after talking to like elton fora minute, he said, jim, believe
me, a lot of people don't askme to do duets.
And he says, because a lot oftimes people think they would
say no and a lot of timesartists like that don't get
asked to do a lot of duets bynew artists.
But I'm like, just do it.
I don't think somebody says no.
And you're in the same positionyou are in now.
Close, my grandma's favoritephrase close mouths, don't get

(42:02):
fed there you go, says it alltoo.

Speaker 1 (42:06):
Um, and michael james saying that's incredible.
I would agree 100%.
That is incredible.
Were you like, I know I wouldhave been.
You know Skip, would have beenhappening, if you know what I
mean, if I was sitting in thesame room as Elton John.

Speaker 3 (42:19):
Almost peed myself twice yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:21):
I mean, no matter how long I've been doing and
interviewing great artists likeyourself and doing the radio
thing, If Elton John walked inthat studio I'd be like Totally
almost peed myself and trying tohold my pee, I think a fart
might have slipped out.
Either way it's like oh no.
And you're going.
I hope he doesn't smell that.

Speaker 3 (42:43):
I love that If it had been after 6 pm he would have
about cleared that entire studio.
Let me say my farts don't stinkbefore 10 am.
He would have out of clearedthat entire studio.
Let me say, see my farts don'tstink before 10 am.
No, no, of course not betweenlike noon and 7 30.
Baby, I'll clean out a footballstadium before I smell like
rotten eggs, like boiled eggsokay, all right, all right,

(43:04):
speaking of that, uh, there's afarts or eggs no, no, well, I
guess farts, okay.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
Um, what's?
There's a show on netflix.
Uh, it's about the carnivalcruise they had a poop problem
yeah, yeah, no, they had.
I can't think of the name of it.
If somebody's uh watching thisand listening to this right now,
uh, it's a oh my god.
I can't think of the name of it, but it's the most disgusting
thing you'll ever watch.
But I guarantee you'll watch it.

Speaker 3 (43:33):
Carnival Cruise.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
Yeah, it was a Carnival Cruise and apparently
they had a fire on board orsomething happened and the
plumbing all just quit.
And next, thing, you know, PoopCruise, the Poop Cruise.

Speaker 3 (43:44):
No, I'm serious.
Yeah, I want serious.

Speaker 1 (43:47):
I think so.

Speaker 3 (43:48):
I did one cruise, never again.

Speaker 1 (43:51):
Yeah, yeah.
See, sam Furco is part owner ofthe radio station that I work
at.
What's up, sam?
There you go.
And Sam is a huge Jimmy Allenfan.
I've tried to get him over hereto the pod zone when I talk to
you, but you know, poop cruiseon Netflix, I guarantee dude.

Speaker 3 (44:15):
I got to check that out in the mix of all the shows
I'm watching right now.
I love TV.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
Yeah, sam goes.
What's up?
He's one of your biggest fans.
I'm telling you.

Speaker 3 (44:24):
Man, what up?
Yeah, I need to get up that way.

Speaker 1 (44:28):
We're going to get you.
Well, you are coming up thisway, but it's not till september
, but we'll talk about that alittle bit more here in just a
little bit.
But uh, you know we, sam, we'vealready talked about the show
and we're very excited that thatyou're doing this and it's just
, it's huge, it's huge.
Jimmy ellen needs to get outthere now.
All that shit's behind us.

Speaker 3 (44:49):
It's done, it's over.
Yeah, we're getting out there,you know, slowly but surely.
But for me, you know, my maingoal is to definitely do music,
and do music I love, but at thesame time making sure I keep my
hobbies, making sure I stillcreate time for my friends and
stuff and keep my mental health.

Speaker 1 (45:10):
Well, most important is to keep time for your kids.

Speaker 3 (45:12):
Absolutely, you know, regardless of the situation,
that is the most important thingin your life you have to, you
definitely, you definitely haveto, because I told you, man, I
got, you know I was.
This is the happiest I've beensince 2018.

Speaker 1 (45:27):
I can tell.

Speaker 3 (45:28):
I got to tell you, man, I loved touring with Kane,
loved touring with Rascal Flatts, loved touring with Kerry,
loved touring with Brad ChrisYoung, scotty, but I was
miserable the entire KerryUnderwood tour.
I sucked it up long enough toget on stage, but since I walked
off stage I was like I'm done,mike.
I didn't believe that phrasewhen people used to always say

(45:50):
money doesn't buy happiness.
You know, I was talking to thisone guy.
He's like just because you gota million dollars in your
account won't make you happy.
I said, yeah, it will.
No, you won't.
You can if you're not happy here, I mean if you're not living
for yourself here.
You know, because a lot oftimes we chase success that

(46:11):
other people formulate for usright, and success is a personal
thing.
And I meet every artist.
I meet a lot of new artists andthey say, well, what do I have
to do?
Do I have to go?
I said no.
I said you don't have to sellout stadiums to be happy.
You don't have to have a songon to be happy.
I said, honestly, you want todo music.
If you're just singing threenights a week on Broadway, guess

(46:33):
what You're singing and that'swhat the love should be right.
And then as your career grows,you know all the other shit will
come with it.
But you know you have to figureout.
Every artist has to figure outwhat success is to them and I
can honestly tell you is to them.
And I can honestly tell you Idon't want to tour stadiums Like
I, after I've been playingshows and I played a couple in

(46:55):
the stadium I played arenas andI played.
My favorite size venue to playare like house of blues is
anything between 500 and 2,500people.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
Perfect.
Yeah, you're out of touch whenyou're in a stadium.

Speaker 3 (47:07):
Yeah, this stadium.

Speaker 1 (47:08):
I think you know I went to a um a Luke comb show at
Highmark and it's cool.
You're out of touch when you'rein a stadium.
Yeah, this stadium, I think youknow I went to a um a Luke comb
show at Highmark and it's cool.
You know, I it was him andMitchell 10 penny.
I'm trying to think who elsewas on that tour, but it's like
the stadium and it's like you'reyou've.
It's not that one-on-oneexperience, it's just you're on

(47:32):
this stage and you've got 50,000people just out there watching
and listening.

Speaker 3 (47:35):
It's great to hear the music, but you don't connect
with your fans.
Yeah, and I feel like for someartists is great, they love it,
but I know, for me personally,um, it's not anything.
It's not something I've everdreamed about, you know.
I mean, I love.

Speaker 1 (47:48):
I love your way of thinking, especially for you
know who you are and what you'vedone in the past, and the way
you know, hit after, hit afterhit and uh, now doing what
you're doing.
I love the way you're thinkingand you know what your fan base.
When people see how the realjimmy allen is, they're gonna
love you, dude.

Speaker 3 (48:04):
They're just and what's so funny?
Like my, my, uh, my new tourmanager, uh b.
Like man, your fan base isinteresting because it's
literally like the show.
The recent show I just playedis literally everyone from ages
two to ninety eight.
Black, white, spanish isliterally like there's this lady
, white lady, 92 years old.

(48:25):
Her great grandkids drove herto the show from Valdosta
Georgia and they said this isher 20, the show from Valdosta
Georgia.
And they said this is her 20thshow she's been to.
So and I've noticed too there'scertain fans, there's a lot of
older ones, they like to hearthe story.
So when sometimes people cometo my shows, they'll be like man
, we like the music, but we wishyou didn't do so much talking.
I said well, there are certainsongs that you like that other

(48:46):
fans didn't like.
So my job as an entertainer isto make sure everyone there gets
what they like, right.
And if I realize, like my olderfan base is 70 and up, like the
stories, I'm going to tell thestories.
If I realize you know theyounger fan base might like this
specific song and the older fanbase might not, I'm still going
to play that because I want tocreate a show that people can

(49:09):
leave and say you know what, Ienjoyed it and I won't get this
show anywhere but at a JimmyAllen show.
And that's how I feel everyartist should be, because
there's only one me, there'sonly one every other artist
right.
And if you yourself and youincorporate everything you love,
whether you're that good at itor not, you're still being
you're, you know you're.
You're still being you andyou're making your show

(49:32):
authentic and making itsomething that people can't
duplicate because no one can do.

Speaker 1 (49:37):
Yeah, so, um, of course, you got these two songs
that are coming out or alreadyout, more or less.
Um, they're coming out, yep,they're coming out, and, uh, we
need to talk about that but uhum, what about your songwriting?
Are you writing?
You must be doing more of thatnow.

(49:59):
Uh, because you got to followup these two songs with
something.

Speaker 3 (50:03):
Oh, I got them covered I tell you what after
these two singles there, there'sanother two, then another two,
then another two, and anothertwo, and another two, and
another two, and another two andanother two.
And what I do shout out to alot of my co-writers, whether
it's my boy Vic and Vinny,whether it's Cam Bedell, whether

(50:23):
it's Tate, whether it's MattRogers, whether it's Ryan Ball A
lot of guys I write with a lot.
We definitely challengeourselves to create songs that
are me, but songs that aredifferent.
I don't want to have an albumof 12 songs and 10 of the 12

(50:43):
sound the same.
I can't do it.
So I'll purposely listen to asong like't.
I can't do so.
I'll purposely like listen to asong Ah, too similar.
We got to change something.
You know what I mean.
Yeah yeah To me, I want to makemusic I love, but yet, as an
artist, I still want tochallenge myself.
Right, to make good music andlisten.

(51:04):
Not everybody's going to likeit, that's fine, but I still
want to be intentional aboutwhat I'm creating right,
challenging myself and trying toget the bar of music back here,
because right now there's a lotof lazy songs with a lot of
lazy writing and a lot of lazysinging.
And I personally feel like, ifyou call yourself a singer, take

(51:28):
time to work on your vocals.
Personally feel like, if youcall yourself a singer, take
time to work on your vocals,because music is the only job
where you cannot be talented orgood at your job and be
successful.
But I feel like and justbecause and just because you're
successful still doesn't meanyou shouldn't challenge yourself
to get better, whatever it iswriting, performing, vocal
ability, whatever so you growingup and going through all this,

(51:51):
did you have vocal lessons?

Speaker 1 (51:53):
Did you do all that or did you do it all on your own
more?

Speaker 3 (51:56):
No, I, I.
I grew up, you know, in church,you know playing.
We're singing in church, yeahPlaying drums first and then
singing, and then you know you,you spend time practicing and
just you, and what you can use.
I tell artists to give vote,you can give yourself vocal
lessons.
I, I there's one artist Irecently told.

(52:17):
I said pick three artists andthree different genres of music,
right, and learn to sing theirsongs, mimic them, right, and
what you're doing is you'reexercising your muscle, right,
you're increasing your range,you're increasing your ability,
what you can do with your vocals, right, and what you do is

(52:41):
every day you sing those threesongs, right, guarantee, two
weeks later you'll make adifference.
And then I tell people, justfor breathing, you know, jog
while you, while you sing.
But now I've never taken vocallessons.
I don't even do that whole.
You know people do the wholevocal.
Me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me,yeah, and I've seen Nashville

(53:06):
artists do that to warm theirvocals up.
So I typically don't sing untila certain point of the day.
So what I do is I just live myday and by the time it's
showtime my voice is naturallywarmed up, right, and I never
push my vocal past where I go,right.
Or I tell people do pianoskills if you want to work on
your range.
You know get a, get a, get a,get a keyboard your phone's

(53:31):
ringing yeah, I see I heard geta keyboard or or piano it's my,
that's my boy jay.
He was just on my instagramlive, bro.
You see instagram live and youstill call me he's a cousin.
Yeah he might be.

(53:54):
But yeah, it's about justputting the work in Same thing
with songwriting.
I tell people, when you write asong, compare it to what's on
the radio, also what's on yourartist's favorite album, and be
honest with yourself about thequality of the song, because
sometimes there's a hugedifference between what you love
and what's on your artist'sfavorite album.
And be honest with yourselfabout the quality of the song,
cause there's sometimes there'sa huge difference between what
you love and what's good.

Speaker 1 (54:14):
Tyler, are you listening to this?
Because Tyler likes to sing andhe plays the guitar and he's
always applying that to theEagles.

Speaker 3 (54:21):
You might love the Cowboys, but the Eagles are good
.
It's a difference between whatyou love.

Speaker 1 (54:28):
It's good and I don't know if Sam is still watching.
Sam is a huge Steelers fan.

Speaker 3 (54:35):
Okay, I don't mind the Steelers, alright, okay.
I don't mind the.
Steelers.
That's supposed to be like a PArivalry right there.
It is.
But here's the thing theEagles-Cowboy rivalry goes
deeper, man it goes.

Speaker 1 (54:53):
Hey soccer ball.

Speaker 3 (54:54):
Oh hey, soccer ball.
Yeah, hand me the soccer ball,come here.

Speaker 1 (54:59):
Aw Hand it to me.
No.

Speaker 3 (55:02):
Dad, you got to get it.
Come here, here.

Speaker 1 (55:06):
How adorable man.

Speaker 3 (55:07):
He said, he said that's awesome.

Speaker 1 (55:09):
No, no, no no Soccer.

Speaker 3 (55:10):
How adorable man he.
He said.
He said that's awesome soccerball.
Hey, you want to say hi sinceyou?

Speaker 1 (55:14):
yeah, let's see now, which one is this?
Amari amari hi say hi.
Oh my god, adorable, adorablesam just said I hate the cowboys
, oh man all right buddy saybye-bye, bye-bye.
Soccer ball.
Where's the soccer ball?

Speaker 3 (55:33):
right here, pacifier.
Yeah, they go together, yeah,with me, with the pacifier mark
well we're not going to keep youmuch longer.

Speaker 1 (55:45):
You got the kids to tend to, but uh, no, I don't
they're going to bed?

Speaker 3 (55:48):
I got tv shows.
I'm watching a show called theshy bmf.
I'm about to start this newshow tonight.
Tonight called we were liars.
I heard that was good that isgood.

Speaker 1 (56:04):
Have you seen the waterfront?

Speaker 3 (56:06):
I've just finished the waterfront.
I watched it quick too, I gotone more episode.
One more episode somebody toldone of my friends yeah, it's
kind of like yellowstone.
That show is nothing likeyellowstone.
The only thing it has in commonwith yellowstone is there's
white people in it.
That is it.

Speaker 1 (56:20):
It is nothing like yellowstone.
It's not like yellow.
Who the hell would say that?
If anything, it's more like.
It's more like um, um, um, oh.
Crap, outer banks yeah, it is.

Speaker 3 (56:33):
I love outer banks yeah, yeah what other show am I?
Watching.
It's like a long uh list ofshows.
Uh, what else am I watching?
Oh, I just finished the newseason of uh jenny and georgia.
I'm waiting for the next, thenew season of my life With the
Walter boys.
I like a lot of chick shows.
Waiting for the next season,it's a lot of great.

Speaker 1 (57:00):
You don't watch the Bachelor, do you?

Speaker 3 (57:03):
That's too weird.

Speaker 1 (57:05):
My wife has it.

Speaker 3 (57:07):
I can't do the Bachelor.
The guy always makes baddecisions.

Speaker 1 (57:14):
So you are watching it.

Speaker 3 (57:15):
No, I hear about it.
I can say the only season Iwatched was the season my boy,
matt James, did and I just sohappened to do Dancing with the
Stars with him the next season.
My favorite line.
I said Matt, you were a niceguy, but you were an asshole at
the same time.
But you were a nice asshole.
So instead of telling the girlyou weren't interested, or
instead of repeating something,you would say thanks for saying

(57:40):
that.
That was his favorite line.
This girl just poured her heartout to Matt.
He sat there at the dinnertable like thanks for saying
that.
I'm like bro.
That is wild work man.
Oh my God that is wild work.

Speaker 1 (58:00):
That is so awesome.
But Dancing with the Stars man,that was a few years ago now.
Yeah, wow, that is so awesome.
But dancing with the star man,that was a few years ago now.

Speaker 3 (58:04):
Yeah, wow, it was fun , man, it was, uh, it was.
It was fun and stressfulbecause, see I was, my
children's book had just cameout, so I was doing a book tour,
dancing to stars and the BradPaisley tour at the same time.

(58:25):
So I so I'd be in la sunday,monday, then fly to a city, do a
book thing and then do anotherbook thing, then my dance
partner emma would travel withme.
Do rehearsal, then we go dobrad paisley show, then still
rehearse come that day beforethe show, then go back to la
dude.
Yeah, I did that for eightweeks but my, I was in the best
shape ever.
My, my abs were popping, broListen, I remember one time I
took my shirt off and almost cutmyself.
That's how short I was.

Speaker 1 (58:46):
It was crazy.

Speaker 3 (58:48):
I can't say that.

Speaker 1 (58:50):
I can't say that.
Can I ask you something, though?
As busy as you were, you knowyou had Dancing with the Stars,
you were on the Paisley Tour.
Everything you just said do youthink because you were on the
road so much, traveling frompoint a to point b so much, that
your priorities kind of gotlost and kind of you know

(59:14):
everything you've been throughabsolutely, with your marriage
splitting up and all that, itjust absolutely yeah, you can
chase.

Speaker 3 (59:22):
I was a, I was a person that chased, uh, the
fantasy of reality.
You know you can get.
You know I, I tell people it'sa dangerous game getting on
stage every night, right, andhaving people scream for you,
right, people say we love you,and you can hear that over time

(59:43):
and time and time and time again, right, if you're not careful
and don't have a balance, youcan slowly develop a God complex
.
You know what I mean.
You can slowly start to get tothe point where you start
thinking you're higher than theaverage person, right, right,

(01:00:04):
and that's not facts, becauseeverybody's at the same playing
level.
And you can.
You know, sometimes, um, I know,I did it, um, chasing that high
so much, right, right, right,that you forget what's important
.
And I and that's something elseI tell artists, you know
there's a danger to this,because see the music business,

(01:00:24):
whether it's your label, yourmanager, booking agent, whatever
, a lot of times they'll,they'll tell you about.
You know how hard it is to getyour song off the chart or how
hard it is, right, but theydon't prepare you for what
happens with success, rightright or it go to your head and
a lot of times you have artiststhat'll say, man, I haven't

(01:00:46):
gotten where I wanted to go.
And I look at it sometimes as agood thing, because there's this
phrase that people say a lot,god will never put more on you
than you can bear.
Right.
And people often go negative,say, oh, God won't do that
because it'll hurt me too much.
No, but I feel like sometimeshe won't bless you the way he
wants to because he doesn'tthink you can handle it Right.
And I got a lot of stuff thrownat me that I thought I could

(01:01:08):
handle, but I didn't.
I didn't, I didn't, I didn'thandle it Right.
You know I.
You know priorities weren't.
You know exactly, but you knowall.
All you can do is see.
I don't believe in mistakes Idon't like that word I believe
in you made a decision and yourealize later that it was the
wrong decision because a mistakeis something that accidentally

(01:01:31):
happens.
No, we all have a choice, witheverything we do as a choice.
Everything, every decision wemake at work, every decision we
make at our job, every decisionwe make in a relationship,
decision we make in arelationship everything we do is
a choice, right.
And it's up for us a lot oftimes, all the time, to be
mindful of our choices and startbeing able to see step three

(01:01:53):
and four before we even make thedecision to step one right, and
a lot of times it takes goingthrough some for that to happen.
Yeah, yeah, wow, you know ittakes going through some shit
for that to happen.
Yeah, you know what I mean I seeit now, but you can find
yourself in places where youdon't want to be.
I remember looking up one timehaving a carry tour like who the

(01:02:13):
hell am I?
Wow, who are these peoplearound me?
Right, and how did I get here?
And when you trace it back, youcan slowly start to see where
shit started going sideways.
Right.
And it's about understanding nowand having people in your life

(01:02:36):
that hold you accountable andletting people hold you
accountable.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, and understanding that wedon't know.
Yeah, when you crashed, holdyou accountable.
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
Yeah, and understanding that we don't know
.
Yeah, when you crashed, youcrashed, you crashed hard
Absolutely and you had somemental health stuff going on.
And, if you don't mind mesaying, there was a time that
you thought about taking yourown life.
I was reading about that story,yeah, and I'm like wow.

Speaker 2 (01:03:06):
But now I look at you and I talk to you and it's
you're just, you're crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:03:08):
No, you're good and this is, you know.
It makes me feel good to seeyou doing what you're doing,
your attitude on life, thinkingthings out, knowing what your
limits are.
Just, you learn from thosemistakes.

Speaker 3 (01:03:21):
I was going to talk to talking about booking age
today, like we're, you know,starting already to plan shows
for next year.
He said, yeah, I do fairs andfestivals on the summer.
I said, true, we're gonna dothat, adam, but don't forget, I
need these weekends to playsoftball I need the third
saturday off of every week ofevery.
I don't want to tour everyweekend.

(01:03:42):
I don't want it.
It's important to me to havetime for my kids.
It's important for me to stillhave time for me, because a lot
of times too and I tell parentsthis make time for your kids,
but you also still got to maketime for you.
You know what I mean?

(01:04:02):
Because you can't be a goodparent unless you're a good
person, unless you're happy.
You can't provide for your kids, provide for your family,
unless you got to take care ofyourself.
And some people might say it'sselfish, but no, it's not
selfish, because you have to bewhole in order to take care of
the people that depend on you,right?

(01:04:25):
So you know, I tell people allthe time don't lose yourself in
being a parent, you know be aparent Cool, but take your days
off, take your moments off.
You know, whatever dream youhave, oh.
God, that's still keep chasingit.

Speaker 1 (01:04:37):
Dude, I this.
Wow, you're so good.
You're so good at what you'resaying and your whole.
The way you look at life isjust.
It's so good to see you likethis.
I cannot say that enough.
I know you're coming to town.
We're in Syracuse, as youalready know.
If you're watching this fromwherever in the world, right now
the Pod Zone is located inSyracuse and Jimmy Allen's going

(01:04:59):
to be out on tour doing theacoustic thing with the stories.

Speaker 3 (01:05:02):
Yeah, stories about the songs tour baby.

Speaker 1 (01:05:04):
Oh, baby, I love it.

Speaker 3 (01:05:05):
And by then you know, small Town Anthem will be out.
Yep, yep.
It was set for they werelooking at the last week of
September, May 1st October, forthe Gemini album.
I'm calling it Gemini because Iam a Gemini and I love it.
It's a middle ages brewing.
Yep, that's where we'll be.

Speaker 1 (01:05:26):
Middle ages brewing.

Speaker 3 (01:05:27):
Yep, and there's a.
It's a mix between there'scountry songs on there, there's
pop songs, there's a hip hopsongs, there's R and B songs,
there's a couple of Christiansongs on there.
There's some rock songs onthere.
Uh, you know, there's someduets.
You know, me and T-Pain didanother song together.
Um, uh, you know I.
There's some duets.
You know, me and t-pain didanother song together.

(01:05:48):
Um, uh, you know I, me and robthomas.
We have a song that might be onthere.
Uh, me and casey, from caseyand jojo, yeah, yeah do you?
want.
I'm gonna do that.
I'm excited about my boy.
Vic had this idea.
This guy's my brother.
So what we going to do on thistour is, instead of a meet and
greet, we're going to call it ameet and record, right.
So where we're going to book astudio in that city and if

(01:06:10):
there's not a studio there,we're going to set up one
backstage, right.
And instead of people payingfor a meet and greet, there's an
artist that wants to sing, theycan pay to hop on a song with
me as a feature.
And when the tour is over,we're going to put out the album
of features, right, and call itit's going to be the Stories
with the Songs tour album, right.
And every artist, whetherthey're, you know, especially

(01:06:33):
like the unsigned artists, youknow, boom, instead of paying
for meet and greet, you pay todo a song.
We'll actually go in the studio.
Our vocal producer, we'll do asong we're actually going to
studio.
I'll vocal, produce you or do asong that day and then at the
end of the tour we're going toput out the album, uh, with me
and, um, all the artists.
I've never seen that.

(01:06:53):
I love that, that idea.
It's gonna be.
It's gonna be great.
You know people in a way toincorporate, you know humanity.
And then you know, uh, 50 ofthe money sold from that album
was going to go to thisnon-profit called duffy's hope.

Speaker 1 (01:07:05):
Um, they're out of ormondton, delaware, so very
cool, jimmy, you're doing a goodthing.
You're doing a great thing Iappreciate skip well, one quick
question.
Michael james says does theindustry record labels, etc.
Support artists taking time forthemselves?
Good for you for making that apriority.
So what?

Speaker 3 (01:07:26):
but uh, actually you know that's a tough question, um
, I think from some point Ithink they would, because if the
artists don't make time forthemselves and don't have the
mental capacity to write songsor the tour, I think they should
see.
There's a lot of labels outthere too, now that have you
know therapists on staff, right,um, doctors that they can go to

(01:07:49):
when people need help?
Um, and I you know, there I'msure there's some people that
don't give a, but for the mostpart, from what I've seen, um in
nashville on, I can just speakfor the countryside.
I mean a lot, of, a lot oflabels and a lot of people at
labels.
Check in on mental health.
Now, because it's important,because at the end of the day

(01:08:12):
without the artists, there's nolabel.
So you got to make sure yourartists are good, right, and a
lot of times, artists won't saywhen they're good or say when
they're not good.
So I feel like it's importantto have people that's assigned
to check in with them and ifthey don't check in with them,
check in with people in theircircle, right.

(01:08:34):
That's why it's important tohave a small circle, have people
you love, have people you trustthat are around you, and that's
what I love with my new band,my new crew that I have with me.
You know these are guys I'veknown forever family members,
that's good.
You know it's fun, man andlisten.
I love my old band too, but youknow, the older I get, man,

(01:09:00):
there's so many friends and somany family members that I've
been wanting to create musicwith.
That's so cool that you look atit that way that I have a
chance to do it now.

Speaker 1 (01:09:09):
Yeah, jimmy Allen.
Wow, jimmy Allen, living lovinglife in Delaware via Nashville,
but Delaware's your home.
I get it, and I wish I hadthought of that last week we got
beaches here.

Speaker 3 (01:09:24):
We got oceans, we got the bay, we got fishing, we got
whole crabs that we eat.

Speaker 1 (01:09:32):
My God, it sounds so good.
You know, uh-oh, wipe the face.
There you go.
What happened?
Spit up.

Speaker 3 (01:09:38):
Oh no, I got my spit cup tonight.
It's my Magic Kingdom coffeecup.
Oh that, I got my spit cup.
Tonight is my Magic Kingdomcoffee cup.

Speaker 1 (01:09:42):
Oh, that's right, you and Disney.
When was the last time you wereat Disney?
I?

Speaker 3 (01:09:46):
don't know.
Two months ago, three monthsago, what was that?
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:09:52):
I have no idea what the hell you just did.

Speaker 3 (01:09:55):
But it's there.

Speaker 1 (01:09:57):
That's right, I can't do that, but I remember you
were going quite often Disney.
Disney is your home man.
That's like your second home.

Speaker 3 (01:10:06):
Listen, disney's lit and shout out to Universal
because Universal is stepping upthe epic universe.
Yeah, that place.
Listen, listen, disney, y'allknow I love you.
Y'all got to get your shittogether because Universal is
coming.
They're on.
They are doing what the Cowboyswant to do.
They're making a comeback, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:10:28):
Tyler's over here shaking his head, shaking his
head.

Speaker 3 (01:10:31):
Listen, listen.
They are making a listen.
Anybody watching right now.
Whether you're a theme park fanor not, do yourself a favor and
go to epic universe and, mindyou, the you know normally like
quick service food would just goup to the counter and you order
it yeah yeah, that is normallyokay yeah man, the quick service
food is just as good as sitdown restaurants, bro, cool like

(01:10:56):
oh yeah, I love it, I'm going,uh, I need to go back.
I need to go back here soon,for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:11:02):
I'm sure you'll be gone next week, so you got
cousins down there.

Speaker 3 (01:11:09):
I do got cousins that I told you.
Black people got familyeverywhere, everywhere.
I like that, I like that it'sall good.

Speaker 1 (01:11:16):
It's all good, you know, and I wish I had known
that you were in Delaware.
I was there last weekend andwhen I asked you I was, I was in
George, georgetown, seaford,yeah, and you're like 20 minutes
from there.

Speaker 3 (01:11:28):
Seaford, oh boy, seaford.
Well, we went down to.

Speaker 1 (01:11:31):
Rehoboth.
Okay, and then what's the beach?
If you go the other way, it's.

Speaker 3 (01:11:37):
Lewis Beach.

Speaker 1 (01:11:38):
Lewis Beach, dewey Beach, dewey Beach, and it was
crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:11:43):
Dewey is the party scene.
See, Dewey is where you go whenyou're 20 and got a fake ID.

Speaker 1 (01:11:47):
I noticed that.
I noticed that 21 to 29.

Speaker 3 (01:11:50):
Man, I rode through Dewey one night.
I felt like a babysitter.

Speaker 1 (01:11:55):
They had lines to get into these places and I said to
my wife we don't belong here.

Speaker 3 (01:11:59):
People are 20 to like 29.

Speaker 1 (01:12:01):
Oh God.
And cops on every corner.

Speaker 3 (01:12:04):
you know, I'm like yeah, dewey's fun man I remember
a lot of my days in my twentiesgoing out there.
But see, when you get older,like me, you know we go to
Rehoboth or we do go to Dewey'sduring the day.
Yeah, I got you Between noonand like 3 pm.

Speaker 1 (01:12:22):
Now do they have rental property in Dewey oh?

Speaker 3 (01:12:26):
absolutely.

Speaker 1 (01:12:27):
Oh, okay.

Speaker 3 (01:12:27):
That whole, that whole place is pure rental
property.
There's some people that ownsome stuff down there, but yeah,
you can, you can, you canalways find a rental.

Speaker 1 (01:12:36):
That's cool.
No, no, and not that I wouldstay there.
I think when we drove throughthere last week, it was like no,
we're never coming back here,we'll go to Rehoboth.

Speaker 3 (01:12:43):
Yeah, man, dewey's fun, it's a cool place, and that
whole strip just from Rehobothto Dewey, to Bethany, to Fenwick
, and then you hit Ocean City,maryland.
It's just all like right there,man.

Speaker 1 (01:12:57):
Yeah, my boss, sam, said, if you drove another hour
you'd be in Ocean City.

Speaker 3 (01:13:02):
Yeah, and it's not even an hour.
Honestly, you can get there inabout 35 minutes.
The only thing that reallystops you is the lights, but
it's literally a straight shot.

Speaker 1 (01:13:13):
Yeah, no, I noticed it was a straight shot.
The road was very straight.

Speaker 3 (01:13:16):
Yeah, and it's all water.
If you're driving that way, yougot the bay.
Yeah yeah, the bay on the right, the ocean on the left.

Speaker 1 (01:13:23):
Yeah, exactly, it was beautiful, except for all the
people so yeah and as we saidminutes ago, or many minutes ago
, the fact that, uh, not reallya people person when it comes to
crowds if that makes sense.

Speaker 3 (01:13:34):
So I told you I love people, but I don't like.

Speaker 1 (01:13:36):
Yeah, I know uh, jimmy, allen, uh, thank you,
thank you so?
Much for taking the time lastminute.
I know I reached out to youtoday.
You were so generous by takingmy call um, even though you were
fishing.
You took two minutes away fromthat to talk, to skip.

Speaker 3 (01:13:52):
I mean that's, that's cool that's cool, man listen,
man skip's my guy now you're myguy man.

Speaker 1 (01:13:57):
I appreciate you very much.
You know everything you've beenthrough um the good, the bad,
whatever.
It's all behind us.
It's all behind us and JimmyAllen is, you know you're going
to be right back doing what you,what you do, the best.
Well, it's a.
March TV and fishing andplaying softball and and bowling

(01:14:19):
and uh, you know and maybegiving Patrick Mahomes a phone
call.

Speaker 3 (01:14:24):
Hopefully I'll get the exact date, but the stand-up
special is coming this year too, Really.

Speaker 1 (01:14:30):
You know what.
I want to talk to you a minutewhen we get done, but I want to
say thank you for joining ushere on Skip Happens tonight.
Thank you.
I mean, Tyler was pretty pumpedto come over and bust down you
a little bit.
How's Mr Conversation over here?

Speaker 3 (01:14:47):
He's the man of three words.
Man, How's it going?

Speaker 1 (01:14:50):
How's it going?
How's it going, but, Jimmy,you're awesome.
Thank you for joining us hereon skip happens.
You took the time out to dothis.
You didn't have to do it, butyou did it, and you know we need
more people like you.
You know it's awesome.
The music when can is the musicgoing to be available If
somebody's watching this andthey want to get their hands on

(01:15:11):
the new music?

Speaker 3 (01:15:13):
The new music will be available end of this month.

Speaker 1 (01:15:15):
End of this month.

Speaker 3 (01:15:16):
Yeah, they can just stay tuned in to the socials.

Speaker 1 (01:15:19):
Socials.

Speaker 3 (01:15:25):
You know, and yeah it's, uh it's.
I'm super excited for the songs, whether it's you know, beer 99
, small tone anthem.

Speaker 1 (01:15:28):
Another song called drop it like a tailgate oh, now
he's revealing the titles dropit like a tailgate all right,
all right, give us another oneit's a, it's a bunch.

Speaker 3 (01:15:38):
You know and know a song called breaking up.
You know, uh, gemini is a, is afun project that.
When people ask me how long ittook to write, I'm 40.
So I would say it took 40 yearsbecause it is you know, from
different moments um in life, uh, the good moments and the bad

(01:16:01):
moments.

Speaker 1 (01:16:02):
Definitely good stuff .
Real quick you have a Bucky'sdown there.

Speaker 3 (01:16:08):
No, I keep hearing about this place.
I was actually at the Salt BowlTurnovers weekend and my guy,
mike Deal, shout out to MikeDeal, he's head of marketing for
Mike and Rawlings and Worth.
He had this chair that lookedlike a.
You know them fold up chairsthat you can but it was a couch.

(01:16:29):
And I said where did you getthis from?
He said bucky's.
I said I keep thinking aboutthis place called bucky's and it
was like man.
And then, you know, other guyscame over talking about it.
Oh man, it's like a mix between, like, walmart and Wawa.
I don't know if I need thatplace, because there's never
been a time where I was at Wawawhere I needed something from
Walmart.
I just feel like there's a lotgoing on.

(01:16:50):
They didn't talk about theyserve ice cream you serve.
I don't know how I feel aboutbuying ice cream in the same
place.
I pump gas, shout out toBucky's, everything they're
doing.
I hear it's a great place.
I'm going to go check it outone day, apparently.

Speaker 1 (01:17:05):
You'll see it on the road.

Speaker 3 (01:17:07):
My booking agent had an idea for me to do, like a
Bucky's tour, like where you gothrough Bucky's and just like go
sign stuff.
But I'm going to have to.

Speaker 1 (01:17:16):
It's pretty big.
We don't have those here either.
That's why I thought, maybe ifwe go a little bit further south
, maybe.
Way further south, way further,all right.

Speaker 3 (01:17:25):
Never mind Way further south.

Speaker 1 (01:17:27):
All right, all right.

Speaker 3 (01:17:28):
I think it's like what is it Like Tennessee,
kentucky?
Is there like one in Nebraskaarea?
Oh, you know the places wheretornadoes normally go.

Speaker 2 (01:17:37):
No, wait a minute, tornadoes go to nashville now
tornadoes are here in syracuse.

Speaker 1 (01:17:45):
Tornadoes have been in delaware yeah, man, I know
it's wherever the people decideall right, uh, jimmy allen, you
are the freaking best man.
You are just one phenomenalperson.

Speaker 3 (01:17:57):
Um appreciate you very somebody, somebody said
Dallas has the Buc-ee's what.

Speaker 1 (01:18:01):
Who said that?
Wait a minute?
I didn't see that.

Speaker 3 (01:18:04):
Who said?
Who said beavers can't fly?

Speaker 1 (01:18:07):
Oh my God, you're cracking me up.
You are cracking me up, I loveyou man.
I love you, jimmy Allen, we alllove you and we look forward to
the music coming out the end ofthe month are coming out at the
end of the month.
Uh, keep an eye on his socialsand uh.
So yeah, and uh, he's gonna letyou know when they come out.

(01:18:27):
Thank you everybody forwatching.
By the way, make sure youfollow jimmy on all his socials.
I know you probably already do,uh, but if not, make sure y'all
do that.
And if you would, I I'd like toask you to subscribe to skip
happens as we talk to aabsolutely subscribe to skip
happens.

Speaker 3 (01:18:41):
I just started this new thing on my YouTube called
the Random, where every day Ijust film different selfie clips
of what I'm doing and where I'mat, and then I clip them
together, make them anywherebetween 10 minutes and 15
minutes, and I post them on myYouTube page.
So it's not a reality show,it's not really a documentary,
it's just.

Speaker 1 (01:18:58):
Is it like a short?
So you, it's just.
Is it like a short, you know?

Speaker 3 (01:19:01):
how you can do.
It's a long one.
The last one I just put out was11 minutes, but it's fun.
You'll see music stuff, meetthe kids, fish and bowling Love
it, it is fun.

Speaker 1 (01:19:15):
You're fun and we'll subscribe to your YouTube page.
You subscribe to my YouTubepage.
We're going to be happy.
Subscribe to your YouTube page.
You subscribe to my YouTubepage.

Speaker 3 (01:19:24):
We're going to be happy.

Speaker 1 (01:19:25):
That's it, jimmy Allen, everybody.
Once again, thank you for beingon.
Skip Happens tonight.
I want you to stay there.
I want to talk to you for asecond, but thank you.
Thank you for watchingeverybody.
Peace out, see ya, yes.