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SPEAKER_03 (00:00):
We're live.
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Welcome from the Gary's Get ItDone.
Gary these days been lying inhis bed name.
Working on the same car going ondecade.
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We have Gary in the house tonight.
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Scribbles on junk now.
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We're playing the song again.
Listen, listen.
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Never really noticed, but now let's mention
it.
What else?
There ain't a lot of boys namedGary these days.
Born with a cigarette, glue tothe face.
Fix about anything a hammercan't handle.
Save an on a moment, cause aGary don't gamble.
Ain't a lot of girls going byDebbie anymore.
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But they got the same katoon foranother portion.
Hello, everybody.
Skip happens.
SPEAKER_04 (00:50):
And uh, you know, I always say every boot tells a
story, but that's when I'minterviewing the artist.
But we also um Mr.
Ray and myself come together touh, you know, if it's happening,
we talk about it.
It's like another extension ofSkip Happens, and Miss Ray's in
the house.
I love the song, by the way.
It's Gary, right?
Stephen Wilson Jr.
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And it's Gary.
You know, you you had a chanceto meet Gary.
I mean, uh, well, now you're notGary.
SPEAKER_02 (01:17):
I did have the chance to meet Gary.
He's in the house tonight.
Um, my new name.
I had an opportunity to meetSteven Wilson Jr., and so did
you, which was so awesome.
We got to meet him, we got tosee him perform a little bit.
He did a phenomenal job.
Great performance.
SPEAKER_04 (01:36):
He did because he he touches on like the Nirvana
song.
You were talking about theNirvana song.
SPEAKER_02 (01:42):
Yes.
So when we were there, he ofcourse performed his own songs,
which are all phenomenal.
You should go check them out.
But he did this rendition ofSomething in the Way by Nirvana.
And I don't know if anybody inthe audience also listens to
Nirvana, but I listened toSomething in the Way at least
once a week.
It's a great song.
And when he's like, I'm gonnasing something in the way, I was
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like, like Nirvana?
And you know, you're like, andwho would have thought that,
right?
And he he sang Nirvana, but itwas this country rock twist that
I was not expecting, and Iactually was so impressed by
that performance.
I looked him up on Spotifywithin the same week and added
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it to my playlist because I waslike, wow, this is so good.
SPEAKER_04 (02:29):
That was the show with Hardy, yes, and uh Stephen
Wilson Jr.
And they had an opener therethat night, but uh that was a
great show.
You know what?
I think they they they did itright when they put uh Steven
Wilson Jr.
SPEAKER_02 (02:42):
on the bill with Hardy because you know what,
Miss Ray, they they kind of havethat same thing because Hardy
can go very rock edge, Hardy canI was just gonna say that they
kind of have that harder edgedcountry side to them, and they
talk they're kind of rougheraround the edges, you know, and
they talk about that and theyexpress that in their music.
And I don't know, I just thinkthat that's it's cool, it's
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amazing.
SPEAKER_00 (03:05):
It's so cool, yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (03:06):
It's so cool, it's so cool, and it's cool to see
those two worlds kind of mesh,you know.
SPEAKER_04 (03:12):
And we were talking about that before we went out
with the lights in the camera,about um, you know, how it's uh
it's a whole different ballgamenow, so to speak, where you
know, the meshing of the genresof the formats coming together
and a lot of crossover.
I mean, what was country is notjust country anymore.
What the hip hop rap?
Um, just saw Neo singing acountry song.
SPEAKER_02 (03:34):
Yep.
Yeah, and we see rappers kind ofstepping into the country world
going vice versa.
Um, Big X the plug, that MexicanOT.
They they're kind of havingtheir own country twist or
artists collaborating, uh, likerappers collaborating with
country artists, and then thathappening vice versa, like the
country artists engaging withwith the rapper, like Jesse
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Murph and yes, Cole Wetzel.
Yes, and too.
SPEAKER_04 (04:00):
Yep, yep, exactly.
And and we we saw was it no?
That was a whole nother show.
No, it was Cole Wetzel was therethat night, right?
SPEAKER_02 (04:06):
He was, he was there opening for Hardy as well.
What a great show! I hope that II wish I could relive that
crazy.
SPEAKER_04 (04:15):
Uh, I know, I know.
SPEAKER_02 (04:17):
So I wonder if that idea of like artists kind of
being versatile and kind ofneeding to genre bend has always
been present.
Do you do you feel that like I Ifeel like it's really common
now.
We see it with Taylor.
She went country.
SPEAKER_00 (04:33):
Oh my god.
SPEAKER_02 (04:34):
We see it with Beyonce, she went pop to um to
country.
SPEAKER_04 (04:38):
There was a lot of pushback on that though.
When Beyonce did that, uh that'strue.
I thought it wasn't a bad, a badmove because now she is exposing
a lot of her fans to the countryside of things, and it also
works the other way around.
SPEAKER_02 (04:53):
So that's true.
SPEAKER_04 (04:55):
That's what happened there.
So I didn't have a problem withthat.
I know a lot of diehard countrypeople is like, well, why is she
in here?
What the hell is she doing?
Why, you know, but she grew upin Texas.
She come on, let's just a lot ofthese artists.
Uh, just because they've beenputting out music, uh, a
different genre, does not meanthey they didn't grow up on
country.
I mean, you never know.
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You don't know, you know.
Neo's a good example of that.
He said he was brought up oncountry, but look what he's been
doing until now.
So, same thing.
SPEAKER_02 (05:23):
You know, I mean, I can attest to that as well.
I grew up as a little girl.
My dad was listening to 92.1 TheWolf.
He was a diehard country fan,still is.
And I grew up to really not bevery keen.
I love that genre, but not likeas it was when I was younger,
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but not anymore.
It's not, you know, so I'm gonnajust shift and and change.
And I think that that's reallyinteresting.
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What do you um you have sisters?
SPEAKER_02 (05:52):
Yes, are they country or do they kind of yes,
and that's my sisters are verycountry, so I'm really the only
one that leans kind of moreagainst it.
It's not that I'm I'm not a andwhy do you think that is?
I don't know, and I think that'san interesting concept, how like
two parents like parents canraise different kids, you know,
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and I think that that might bewhere that that comes from is
just different people anddifferent interests, and um
well, they have their friends,right?
SPEAKER_04 (06:26):
Not the same friends.
I imagine you have your friends,your sisters have their friends
and what they're being broughtup on and the music they're
listening to, correct?
Yeah, cool.
Hello, Chuck.
Thanks for having us on.
And uh Chuck's doing, by theway, um, they're doing a really
cool thing.
Uh, hopefully, it's covaction.
I hopefully I got it right thisweek.
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Cove action.
So he's doing uh not to breakaway from what we're talking
about, but he's got like this umthe advent calendar, but every
day is a different flavor ofscotch, and he he's going on his
podcast every night and doingthat.
I think they must be in day fournow.
So yeah, well, yeah, obviously.
So it's pretty cool what youguys are doing, you and Laura.
SPEAKER_00 (07:08):
We're gonna have to check that out.
SPEAKER_04 (07:09):
Yeah, absolutely.
But getting back to the music,um, you know, the whole genre
bending and all that that'sgoing on is is more now than
it's ever been.
SPEAKER_02 (07:19):
Right.
SPEAKER_04 (07:19):
And I I don't it's not just with country, I mean
it's all across the board.
It's everybody's going everywhich way, so yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (07:26):
And we know I don't think you had um had touched on
it.
Has that always been present?
Or do you think Beyonce kind ofopened opened the floodgates, if
you will, kind of was like thefirst one to really open our
eyes to that.
SPEAKER_04 (07:40):
I think it's always been present, but I think it
really took a leap when she shedid that.
Okay, and uh now, you know, likeI mentioned this a few minutes
ago, you know, you get you seeNeo, and uh we got Shabozy.
Look at Shabuzy, you know.
You look at him and you go, he'sa country artist.
SPEAKER_02 (07:57):
That's another great example.
SPEAKER_04 (07:58):
Yeah, I know he's a good example.
I mean, he's got some greatmusic out there, as a matter of
fact.
Um I'm watching Chuck isposting, love country fusion,
you know, and that's what we'retalking about because it's all
coming together, yeah.
Um, but uh Stephen Wilson Jr.
on the CMA Awards performed withShabuzy.
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Yes, they were both out there,so that was interesting too, you
know.
So it kind of shows you thatit's all over, it's all over the
place in a good way.
SPEAKER_02 (08:26):
Do you think that um award shows are still relevant?
Do you think like the CMAs andthe Grammys, do you think they
still hold value current day?
SPEAKER_04 (08:37):
I think they do.
Um, they say the CMA awards arethe biggest night in country
music.
I I firmly believe that they getthe show off.
Uh what I don't know too muchabout, and uh I don't know if I
really want to go there, but umthe feeling is that people are
getting and artists are gettingawards when there's other
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artists that have done more.
Or how is that working?
Are the record labels doingsomething?
Are they, you know, I mean,there's this something going on,
but uh I love the show, and Ithink you know country fans are
gonna love the show, they'regonna see their favorite
artists.
Um, and they're all inattendance and they're all on
the red carpet.
Well, almost all Morgan Wallenwasn't there, but he's he's got
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like uh chip on his shoulderabout the CMAs, and I get it, I
totally get it.
Doesn't mean he's not a greatperformer, doesn't I mean look
what he's done.
Um, album sold, I mean, recordbreaking.
He's got how many songs on thewolf?
I mean, it just keeps going andgoing uh with him, but yet now
he what he doesn't get likeentertainer of the year, he
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doesn't, it's like what it justkind of makes you think a little
bit.
Not that yes, you know, and Ilove the other artist as well,
but I'm just saying, you know.
SPEAKER_02 (09:51):
Me kind of thinking more towards the Grammys, I I
definitely I mean, I'm justthinking I think they definitely
hold value for sure.
I mean, I mentioned firstepisode how Doji was the third
woman to win like album of theyear as a rap category, um, as a
rap artist, and like that to meholds value.
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And then I know when the Grammyswere released, I think um, I
believe they came out lastmonth.
I looked at that list, I waslike, okay, so who's album of
the year?
Who's this?
I think it's because it's agreat way to recap who are the
top artists of the year and likethe uh the songs of the year,
you know, you kind of can likereminisce on like, oh my gosh,
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do you remember the song of2025?
Or this, you know, just I thinkthat those are that's what holds
value with with awards.
SPEAKER_04 (10:42):
So I before I I went on online and got myself list.
You've got yours written down.
SPEAKER_02 (10:48):
Yes, I've uh yes, we're different.
SPEAKER_04 (10:53):
This is this is kind of funny though, when you think
about it.
She's got like uh you know,lined paper, the old style
tablet written in ink, madenotes about what we were gonna
talk about.
Tell me, we go on AI, nice neat.
Now, you would think it would bethe other way around, yeah, just
because of who we are and thedifference between us, but it is
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and kind of looking atgenerations and accessibility
and how they would kind of leanmore towards.
SPEAKER_02 (11:20):
I think it's it's interesting how how you went
more technologically, if youwill, and I went more like pen
and paper.
I was just spitballing ideas.
I was like, What are we doing?
SPEAKER_04 (11:35):
It's crazy.
So I went online and uh I've gotuh, you know, like I asked, who
is America listening to rightnow on Spotify?
And he gave me the top 10artists in the United States.
All right.
At number 10, it's Kanye West.
All right, number nine, Tylerthe creator.
Now the guy sells out shows inseconds.
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Let's be real about that.
SPEAKER_02 (11:57):
I mean, have you seen him perform?
His shows are phenomenal.
He's one of those artists thatlike he puts his whole body,
heart, and soul, everything intoit.
SPEAKER_04 (12:08):
Uh, was it Za?
Is it S C A?
Zaza?
Uh oh no, no, number eight.
I'm sorry, I went ahead ofmyself here.
Uh, number eight is our countryboy.
I gotta say this.
Uh, Zach Bryan, still holdingstrong.
Zach Bryan.
Uh Za S Z A.
SPEAKER_01 (12:24):
Oh, Siza.
SPEAKER_04 (12:26):
Sizza Sizza.
Uh oh.
SPEAKER_01 (12:28):
Skip, she was in my top five for Spotify wrapped.
Uh-oh.
I love you could have butcheredthat way.
SPEAKER_04 (12:38):
Well, from what I'm reading, though, she's
absolutely owning RB.
Everything that I'm seeing isthat Sisa is actually doing
that.
SPEAKER_02 (12:46):
Yeah, I gotta write the girl of RB right now.
She's oh my god.
This last year she went on tourwith Kendrick Lamar.
SPEAKER_04 (12:53):
Um amazing, amazing, amazing, amazing.
You know, I have seen her, Ijust wasn't sure how to say
that.
SPEAKER_02 (13:01):
Yeah, you you have a face, yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (13:03):
Exactly.
I do.
How about the weekend?
The weekend was number six.
Uh, he's breaking stillstreaming records the weekend.
Uh, at number five, he's gonnabe at the Super Bowl, and uh,
there was a lot of controversyabout this, but uh and I love
it, Puerto Rican.
Uh, we're talking about BadBunny basically shuts down the
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internet anytime he dropssomething.
If a new song comes out, they'reall over it.
It's no wonder that he's atthat's awesome that he's gonna
be at the Super Bowl.
Yeah, I may have somebodywatching this going, what are
you kidding?
No, we didn't want him, wewanted Taylor.
And there was rumor for a littlebit that Taylor Swift was gonna
be at the Super Bowl.
Now we know that's nothappening, as far as we know.
All right, Kendrick Lamar at uhnumber four.
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Okay.
Um Pulser uh Pulitzer a prize,and still one of the best doing
it.
Um, that's what I made notethere.
Uh Morgan Wallen at numberthree.
Here we go.
SPEAKER_02 (13:59):
He comes out with lots of songs, you know.
He's he's constantly pushing outmusic, he's one of those artists
that is above and beyondconsistent.
So I'm not surprised he's in topthree at all.
Okay, and his no surprise thenno, not for me.
I think I think he also he's gotthat magic.
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He you whether you love him orhate him, he just comes out with
these mainstream hits thatpeople are like, I I really
resonate with that.
SPEAKER_04 (14:29):
Country fans, they show up big for him.
It doesn't number two spot.
How about Drake?
It's like a streaming machine.
This guy just can't go wrong,right?
I mean, huge.
And uh, here we go.
The number one most streamedartist T Swift Taylor.
SPEAKER_02 (14:47):
Are we surprised?
SPEAKER_04 (14:48):
No, or not.
Um, shocking absolutely nobodywith that statement, and uh,
that would be the top 10 rightnow.
Um, the top 10 streaming.
That's what I got off that.
That was pretty cool.
Made my little notes next to it.
SPEAKER_02 (15:02):
Are any of those artists in your playlist?
SPEAKER_04 (15:05):
Uh yeah, one Zach Bryan.
Okay.
Uh Morgan Wallen, of course.
Yeah, those are the two.
Out of that, those are the twothat we're playing.
Um, you know, obviously, we'renot doing the Lamar and the
Tyler, the creator, not on, youknow, not on the wolf or Kanye
West, but yeah.
But I did, I worked at oursister station uh moving.
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We were playing Kanye West.
I remember doing that.
I mean, that was a littledifferent for me to be doing
that, but uh, I was doingmiddays on that radio station
and it was uh you know talkingabout Kanye West.
SPEAKER_02 (15:37):
I remember you don't say it.
I'm gonna say it.
We have to say just because youjust messed up Siz's name.
I think it's important forpeople to know that that Skip
does this sometimes.
That's why we need phonetics.
Didn't you one time?
SPEAKER_04 (15:50):
Yes, yes, I did, I did messed up Kanye because I it
was earlier in his career, solet's not hold Skip.
Yeah, well, you know, doingcountry 99% of my career,
absolutely love it, love theformat, love the music.
I love the way you know we'retalking here in the crossover.
I think that's great.
And to be honest with you, I canlisten to almost any type of
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music.
I just you know, you never knowwhat my mood's gonna be.
I'm gonna listen to it.
But um, yeah, so I uh I think Icalled him Kenya, Ken, Ken,
Kenya, Kenya, Kenya West, thenKenya, uh Kenya, and I'm like
going, okay.
And then I remember going,that's not it.
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So that was that was a long timeago.
Look how long he's been around.
But uh, you know, if you're notfamiliar with the format and the
artist, I totally get it.
Yeah, and so I get it.
I have people that mispronouncethe country artists when they
hear a song and they come up tome and I'll go, oh, you mean you
know, so yeah, exactly.
So that's kind of crazy.
That's kind of crazy.
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It happens though.
SPEAKER_05 (16:52):
It happens, it does.
SPEAKER_04 (16:56):
What do you get with it?
You just embarrass the hell outof me.
SPEAKER_02 (17:00):
That I I I didn't mean to.
I I think I didn't mean to.
I just think it's so funny.
It is see, you know, because I Ido it to country artists.
You do, she does.
Sometimes I look at their names,I'm like, what the heck?
Or when um our other sisterstation or brother station, the
dinosaur, those artists that arefrom like the 60s, 70s, and 80s,
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there's some of them that I'mlike, I don't know how to say
this.
SPEAKER_04 (17:26):
How would you know that though?
How would you unless I don'teven know, you know, your mom
and dad, but still your mom anddad are pretty young.
So how would you know that?
I mean, I'm a big like I say, Ilove all kinds of music, and it
what really would put me in agood mood is through um I listen
to a lot of the older stuffsometimes, and uh you may hear
it coming out of my office oncein a while when I'm like, I need
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to a little pick me up, yes, youknow, and then Becky will go, I
remember that from the clubs.
So, and then we're talking about80s, so yes, oh my god, that was
crazy, crazy stuff though.
SPEAKER_02 (17:58):
Crazy stuff that's so funny.
Aside from radio, what's yourfavorite way to like listen to
music?
Like favorite medium oflistening to music.
Oh my would it be like in a clubthrough a speaker?
No, like would it be no?
SPEAKER_04 (18:16):
I don't do the club thing.
SPEAKER_02 (18:18):
Um, and I don't even know how would it be live music?
SPEAKER_04 (18:22):
I love live music.
SPEAKER_02 (18:23):
Do you like live music?
SPEAKER_04 (18:24):
I love live music, you know, even though I DJ'd
weddings for god knows how manyyears, I love music is a whole
different experience, it is, andI have a lot of respect for the
musicians, and uh we getinvolved with the Sammy Awards
every year, which is theSyracuse Area Music Awards, and
uh being able to see some ofthat and be with the artist and
see what they put into it, itmeans so much.
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It's live music.
Gotta love that, gotta lovethat.
Um, it's not AI, it's the realartist, if you know what I mean.
Yeah, um the real magic.
But uh, I think the but youknow, I go on on my computer.
Um, I get a lot of music from,you know, I'll listen, I'll go
through YouTube on a Sundaymorning.
That's what I do.
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I'm down here in my boxers and at-shirt, and I'm like on my
other computer.
Just uh it kind of, you know,I'm listening to a lot of the
the new music, and uh yeah, Imean, and sometimes I'll hear
something and go, I gotta getthat on the wolf, I gotta get
that on the radio.
Um, then I kind of look to seewhat labels you know they're
working with, and you know, I'lltalk to the label and find out
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if a lot of the music that youdo hear, a lot of the the new
music that is so good, um,they're not releasing a lot of
that to radio.
You get it on the internet, youget it by uh different uh
digital service DSPs.
SPEAKER_02 (19:42):
Like TikTok.
Yeah, TikTok is a great exampleof people getting asked.
I was gonna go there music.
SPEAKER_04 (19:47):
That's where yes, way ahead of the the game for
radio.
Exactly, 100%.
100%.
Absolutely.
So I would say, you know, I Ithink the radio, I mean, it's a
proven fact.
That uh for most people, theradio is where they discover new
music.
It's the radio.
It's somebody like me.
I go a little bit deeper for thereason I want to find out what's
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out there and what's coming andwhat can I get on and get on as
soon as possible.
SPEAKER_02 (20:14):
Right.
And I'm not sure if we touchedon this um in one of our
previous podcasts, but streamingservices like Spotify, Apple
Music, they follow algorithmsand same with TikTok.
They do follow algorithms, sothey're pushing out content and
music that you're engaging withmore often with.
And radio doesn't do that, it'sjust it's going and throwing you
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a whole bunch of differentthings just to give you a whole
different experience.
So I I I can uh see where you'regetting that, yeah, and see
where that's true.
SPEAKER_04 (20:45):
And and I don't like that idea though, because now
these people aren't beingexposed to a lot of the yeah,
the other stuff that's outthere.
And for example, Steven WilsonJr., how many people you know,
how many people really know him?
You know what I mean?
Yeah, I know and uh it got akind of real live DJ radio still
rules, it does, absolutely.
And one thing I will say, andthere's a big controversy now.
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I know we talked touched on AIlast time around.
I'm not gonna go there um realdeep, but I will say that, for
example, the radio station thatI'm at, um, we're real DJs,
you're we're human, we're inthere every day.
We're not using AI voices to doa radio show.
Uh, there are some stations thatdo that now.
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Um, we play nothing but the realartist.
You're not gonna hear, and therewas some talk here not too long
ago about uh, you know, thenumber one listen to song on
Billboard was this guy thatnever existed existed, and a
song that was made up with AI.
So that that's to me, it'sbullshit because the artist
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you're taken away from theartist and his craft.
Um, but uh I can tell you, Iknow with our radio station,
we're real, we're real, it'sreal all the way around.
Uh Big D and Bubba in themorning, they're real.
Yeah, granted, they're not inSyracuse, they're in their own
studio in Nashville, but we talkto them every day, we tell them
what's going on, and they'recreating original content, and
exactly.
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And then you got Marissa allday, all day long, talking about
everything that's going on intown.
You got me in the afternoon, yougot B dub at night, and
overnight's you know, it's backto back.
And our late females, how coolis that?
SPEAKER_02 (22:24):
I think that's awesome.
SPEAKER_04 (22:25):
I don't know, it's great, you know.
SPEAKER_02 (22:28):
We're working on really marketing that that's
something that's in the works.
Um, so if you're watching, nowyou know you're gonna really
come out with that because wethink that that's amazing.
Um, and we really want tohighlight these phenomenal
ladies, you know, and thatdoesn't happen enough.
Yeah, you know, and uh for it'sI love the female talent, I love
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hearing that on the air, just togive a good balance when it
comes to the radio station withthe guys and the girls, and it
just kind of balances it all awhole bunch of different
perspectives and and the theages of the ladies, the
experiences that all of theladies go through are all
different, they all havedifferent stories and things
going on in their lives.
So you're getting insight ondifferent people's perspectives
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that I think is really, reallycool.
And to kind of um, I kind ofwanted to touch back on the real
people at the radio station.
And something that I didn'trealize until I started working
in a radio station was thesupport that a radio station
directly has with the artistsand creating real events like
concerts, like live concerts,and how like you make a safe
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environment when we doshowcases.
You know, you're there reallyworking to make sure that like
there's support for the recordlabel, you know, like if
something needs to be done, ifwe have to adjust, if we got to
change a graphic on a TV becauseit looks wonky, we're gonna get
it done before you even realizebecause that's what needs to be
done.
And I think that's somethingthat we don't really accredit to
(23:59):
radio as much anymore because Ithink we're so you're so
overshadowed when it comes tolive events by Ticketmaster and
and Live Nation that you're youforget that there is a local
factor um that's reallyimportant to making these events
actually happen.
SPEAKER_04 (24:15):
Let me ask you this.
Um, I'm gonna put this up on thescreen here.
This is this is pretty cool.
So um do you think AI musiccould become its own genre?
SPEAKER_02 (24:27):
That's uh that's a really great uh great question.
SPEAKER_04 (24:32):
It is a very good question.
I don't have an answer.
I hope it doesn't.
Because I just hope it doesn't,it's not human.
SPEAKER_02 (24:39):
I I don't know because AI's really just I think
AI is still so unknown.
And I think from ourunderstanding, maybe it's my I
don't know.
Maybe it's my understanding,it's it's stuff that's already
been experienced or knowledgethat we already know.
So to break out and havesomething new or a new genre.
(25:02):
I don't know how that couldhappen if it's based off of
things that have alreadyhappened, if that makes sense.
I don't I don't know.
We don't know if AI is capableof creating this whole new
unheard thing.
I think that's that's the reallyscary and unforeseen thing.
SPEAKER_04 (25:20):
Chuck is saying Queen saw this happening back
in '84.
So I don't know.
That's wow.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Yeah, that's a great question.
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (25:31):
I was gonna um segue into digital concerts.
You baby, digital, yes.
So Skip and I were talking aboutum Roblox, which is a gaming uh
software for all ages, how thereare games that recreate uh like
digital concerts.
(25:53):
And I was like concertexperience, yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (25:55):
So I was like, uh, you're kidding.
Well, how does that work?
Whatever.
And you said, look, I I'm gonnashow you, and this is what this
is what she showed me.
Let me see.
Hopefully, it'll come up.
So uh here we go.
So this is let's see if it'llplay.
So this is um this isroadblocks, all right?
SPEAKER_02 (26:11):
Right.
So this um I think you gotta goto the other tab up top.
SPEAKER_00 (26:18):
I gotta go where up top all the way up top.
SPEAKER_02 (26:24):
Um the left up up.
SPEAKER_04 (26:28):
Okay, we are uh like pushing buttons here and
nothing's gonna be able to dothat.
SPEAKER_02 (26:32):
Okay, so this image, pretend it's playing.
Um so the figure in the back,the really tall figure is Lil
Nas X.
And throughout the video, itshows uh little characters, the
smaller figures, those arepeople that are gamers, like
they're engaging with the game,and then Lil Nas X isn't there
(26:53):
in the beginning, and then allof a sudden he shows up and he
goes through a whole soundtrackof music and performs, and all
these people get to like jump,they get to engage in the chat,
and they get to experience thisdigital concert.
This is cool.
SPEAKER_05 (27:10):
I just I'm trying to get we had it going before.
What did I do?
SPEAKER_02 (27:14):
I think on the tab, you have to go to yes, and then
press play there.
SPEAKER_05 (27:20):
You think of course not?
SPEAKER_02 (27:21):
Can't nobody tell me nothing, and then Lil' Nasdax is
the artist.
SPEAKER_04 (27:31):
I got you now.
Oh, you know, let me try to dothis.
Go back here.
I guess I should just hand youthe keyboard.
Yeah, uh, but uh oh my gosh,we'll fix that next time.
We'll leave that.
That's freaking great.
So you get a you get a goodexample of what uh you know what
that is, and uh that's the firsttime I've done that, by the way.
(27:55):
Uh oh, what happened?
Oh, there's my camera.
Never mind.
I should hand you the keyboard.
Uh but uh you know, these newcameras I have, they they follow
you.
So if I was to go like this, Ithink my camera would go over to
there.
SPEAKER_02 (28:09):
And then if I want to go over here, you know, I
have the same camera, but minedoesn't like me as much as it
likes.
SPEAKER_04 (28:15):
So if I wanted to stop, I can just go like this
and let's see if it flashes andit's not gonna do it because
we're live on the air.
Of course, it's not gonna do it.
That's why we call this skiphappens.
But, anyways, but yeah, exactly.
So that's roadblocks, you know,that would be cool because we
all know how much tickets are.
You want to go to a concert,it's hundreds of dollars.
SPEAKER_02 (28:37):
Let's go for travel.
There's a lot of time that goesinto a concert.
I mean, I am one of those girlsthat takes an hour and a half,
two hours to get ready for aconcert.
I can't help myself.
So, to just be able to go to aRoblox concert, I can wear
sweatpants, have my hair in abun, not do my eyebrows and have
(28:58):
the same experience um justdigitally.
And it, I don't know.
SPEAKER_04 (29:03):
It makes me wonder if if that could be a you know,
I could come down in my box withshorts and my t-shirt, like I
said when I listen to music.
I could watch a concert.
SPEAKER_02 (29:12):
I wonder if you could watch Morgan Wallen, like
a digital Morgan Wallen concert.
I wonder um if they would dothose.
I know they do um like liveservers, so it's not like a
game.
SPEAKER_04 (29:23):
We have to look that in just up there because I like
to talk about that, but uh, Idon't have all the info here in
front of me now.
And what you're telling me, youknow, who knows if I hit a
button here, I might loseeverything.
So uh I I don't want to gothere.
SPEAKER_00 (29:35):
We don't want that, yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (29:36):
But that's cool.
So it's roadblock roadblocksR-O-B-L-O.
SPEAKER_02 (29:42):
R-O-B-L-O-X.
X roadblock.
SPEAKER_04 (29:47):
I got it.
That's cool.
It's been around a while though.
SPEAKER_02 (29:49):
It has, it's actually a super, super popular
game.
It's a lot of people engage withit, and it's actually more
popular among um kids.
SPEAKER_04 (29:59):
Okay, that's not me.
SPEAKER_02 (30:01):
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, it's for all ages.
If you're a gamer, I think it'sdefinitely it's free.
You can have free games whichyou really can't find.
You know, Fortnite, you have toyou have to pay money for the
console, you gotta pay money forthe software, you gotta pay
money.
It's very expensive.
SPEAKER_04 (30:17):
So my kids, grandkids have been telling me
about that.
So it's like ask them what theywant to do.
Tell them to play Roblox.
Yeah, I will know that I'm surethey probably already know about
it.
SPEAKER_02 (30:26):
So just keep reverting them back there.
SPEAKER_04 (30:28):
Yeah, I know.
That's that's cool though.
That that's good to know that uhanybody watching this, go on,
check it out.
Let me let me know.
Let us know what you think aboutthat, which would be uh like
really cool.
So yeah.
I'm trying to see what elsehere.
Yeah, good old days.
No, no, but yeah, roadblocks.
That's cool.
That's cool.
Uh many, maybe satellite radiois a format.
(30:50):
Um, there with that's the samegentleman that uh asked about uh
do you think AI will have itsown you know format?
Well, maybe satellite radio.
Now that is that's apossibility, but you spelled
satellite wrong.
But that's okay, it doesn'tmatter because I would spell it
the same way as as Miss Ray.
SPEAKER_02 (31:10):
Yes.
SPEAKER_04 (31:12):
Yeah, exactly.
But uh no, I mean that yeah, Imean, you know, we're
terrestrial radio.
I don't think it'll ever happenon that, but satellite I might
because they have so manydifferent uh channels and
opportunities to get differenttypes of music out.
So yeah, that's cool.
SPEAKER_02 (31:27):
It is yeah, and kind of I'm sorry, I'm just thinking
kind of about how that personasked about AI being a genre and
how within this past year therewas an artist artist who was
signed for millions of dollarswith a record label, and the
artist is is AI generated.
(31:49):
Um I hate saying that.
I have to know I hate sayingthat and not having the name.
But you can I know it was likethree million, it was like uh
more RB artist, but it just itmakes me wonder about the
originality.
And are people drawn tooriginality nowadays, or are
they more drawn to just uhbackground noise or something
(32:14):
that blends in?
SPEAKER_04 (32:16):
Coming up, growing up, I wanted the real deal.
I wanted originality, I wantedcreativity.
To me, that's what matters.
I don't know, maybe you'reright.
Maybe nowadays everybody's like,oh, whatever, it sounds good,
I'll listen to it.
Not knowing everything.
SPEAKER_02 (32:35):
Yeah.
You think I don't know.
I think I think that there's apersonal, I always think this.
I always think that there's likean internal, a personal
preference, and then a societalinfluence.
You know what I mean?
There's something that you'repersonally interested in, and
then there's something thatsociety or like your friends,
(32:57):
for example, influences you tolike and how those two worlds
kind of mesh and become blurred.
Um, yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (33:05):
Wow, you got me thinking now.
It's like that hurts.
SPEAKER_02 (33:09):
So yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (33:12):
Uh, she puts up with me every day.
She does, she does.
If if only you knew, and I'msure.
Uh yeah, well, as we go on withthe Skip Happens podcast, you're
gonna find out more and more andmore of what goes on, and uh, we
have a lot of fun.
But basically, it's you knowwhat we do for a living right
now with music and and giving uhhopefully it's a good
entertainment value for you withradio, regardless what radio
(33:35):
station it is.
But if it's terrestrial radio,it's so very important that you
get the most out of it, and uhsome of it's being taken away.
So, and I hope it doesn't all goaway.
Who knows?
Who knows what's gonna happen?
So, yeah, but then we got we gotthe podcast, it's a new way of
doing things.
SPEAKER_02 (33:52):
It is, and I also wonder if radio will kind of die
down and then come back alive.
Um, you know, radio's not theonly um media that's kind of
struggling nowadays.
Local newspapers are also very,very much struggling.
SPEAKER_04 (34:11):
Um well we know that because you know, we have
Syracuse.com.
That is, you know, that's wherewe get our you know, local news
now.
I mean, they're part of thenewspaper, but uh we used to get
well, we used to get the paper.
We're gonna show our age here.
We used to get the paper all thetime, then it went down to just
a few times a week, then it wentdown to just Sunday only.
(34:33):
Now everything's uh, you know,we subscribe online.
Yeah, get it online.
And uh, even though Facebook, Idon't know how relevant it is
right now, but um there's a lotof news that you know comes
through Facebook.
But then again, you get youralerts on your phone, you get
your school closings on yourphone.
You don't that's another thingthat's been uh, you know, with
(34:53):
radio, I can recall spendinghalf the morning show reading
school closings.
You know, I mean, maybe youknow, for you, it maybe you
don't don't remember or youdidn't know, but uh back in the
day, if it was a day like todaywhere we had a lot of snow, it'd
be like, Oh, okay, somebody'sgotta answer the phones, they
gotta take the school closings,they gotta, and we'd have a list
(35:15):
like three, four, five, sixpages long, and uh every few
minutes we would have to read toschool closings, and they always
started with Altmar Parish,Williamstown, because that was a
and then by the time we got toand when I used to listen for
that, I went to West Genesee.
SPEAKER_02 (35:30):
Was there another way it was at the end?
I didn't mean to interrupt.
Is there another way to get thatinformation, like closings or
delays at that time other thanradio?
SPEAKER_04 (35:40):
No, that's why that's why local radio was so
important, right?
And traffic accidents, and wehad uh traffic group reporters,
and we had all that.
You don't see that now.
You get you get everything onyour phone, and and I'm not
complaining about that.
I think that's great.
I think it's great.
You know, we don't the theschool closings.
If one you if you my kids aregone now, but when you get up in
(36:03):
the morning, you see the scrollon the bottom of the screen.
SPEAKER_02 (36:06):
I mean, everybody see the camera loves to follow
Skip.
SPEAKER_04 (36:12):
Yeah, but is it following my hand or is it
following?
Oh, it must be following me.
Let me just I'll I'll continuein a minute.
Hang on.
That's not gonna work.
I know that you know what youlaugh at me, but that actually
tells the camera to stop.
SPEAKER_02 (36:26):
Yes, I know it's just funny.
Stop.
SPEAKER_04 (36:32):
No, exactly.
Stop.
Um, but it's all the handgestures that uh make it happen.
What was I saying?
No, I was talking about um ohthe the scroll on the bottom of
the screen.
You get up.
Is there something with thatword?
Didn't it do this before?
SPEAKER_01 (36:48):
What?
SPEAKER_04 (36:49):
Yeah, see, didn't it do that before?
So, anyway, so I can talk.
Maybe I can scrunch on.
SPEAKER_02 (36:55):
There we go.
There we go.
We just lost Gary for a second.
SPEAKER_04 (37:00):
I know, Gary.
Hang on, hang on.
We're gonna do this.
We're gonna do this.
I'm trying to tell it to stop.
And when it sees my hand, thiscamera's really cool.
If you don't know what we use, Imean I've had several different
cameras here in the pod zone,but uh, these are uh Insta360s,
they're webcams, but they arevery high-end webcams, and as
(37:20):
you can see, it's so smart it'sgonna follow me.
If I was to get up and walk fromthis table, it would follow me
all the way around up the doorand out the up the stairs and
out the studio door.
SPEAKER_02 (37:30):
Isn't that so cool?
SPEAKER_04 (37:32):
Is it awesome?
That's the sign of the times.
Yeah, so there you go.
But uh no, with the schoolclosings, you see it at the
bottom of the screen now.
But uh, if you listen to radio,you really don't, you don't,
unless it's a very small town.
I know here locally, I don'tknow of anybody that's doing
them.
I could be wrong, but uh I don'tknow that's doing them.
So and now everything, uh, whenmy son was going to school, we'd
(37:53):
get the alerts right on ourphone.
So, you know, North Syracusewould be on a one-hour delay,
two hour delay, or they'recanceled for today, you know.
Yeah, so yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (38:02):
I think that it's interesting to kind of look at
that and then also kind of flipsides and think about how
there's like a vinyl revivalgoing on, you know, vinyl are
kind of becoming more popularand people are um going back to
them, listening to them.
I myself am also doing that, youknow.
(38:24):
I I have a lot of vinyls, Ilisten to them on a on a player,
and I think I have friends thatalso are starting to do that
that are buying them because ofthe the art that's on the vinyl.
SPEAKER_04 (38:35):
Yep, and the color of the vinyl.
SPEAKER_02 (38:38):
That too, like the aesthetic of a vinyl is is
really coming back, and I thinkthat that's interesting because
I feel like there was there musthave been a time where you felt
like vinyls weren't gonna comeback where you were like there
was, yeah, there was.
I don't know.
I um we still kind of feel thatway about CDs.
SPEAKER_04 (38:56):
We're like no, we use them as decorations now.
That yeah, hang them from thetree, or you can hang them from
the mirror, the car, or thetruck, you know.
SPEAKER_02 (39:05):
It's kinda uh I don't know.
When I listened to vinyl, I justit's like a whole experience for
me.
The crackle of the the sound.
And I was listening to um theother day I had a um I had
someone let me borrow a JohnBellion Beethoven blues
rendition.
Oh my gosh, which um was a jazz,it was a jazz rendition.
(39:28):
And I listened to it on uhstreaming, and then I listened
to it on vinyl.
And what do you think I likedbetter?
SPEAKER_04 (39:37):
The vinyl.
SPEAKER_02 (39:38):
I loved you're not gonna the vinyl so much better.
I felt like I was experiencinglike Pinocchio, like Disney's
Pinocchio.
I was like, I feel like they hadto have recorded it from like
used a microphone and not likeput the audio in like how you
would normally do it nowadays,which is really do you know what
(39:59):
I mean?
Like I I know.
SPEAKER_04 (40:01):
And you know, the quality from a good pressed
vinyl record.
You can't beat that.
I mean, if you got a good playerand you got a great album, man,
I'll tell you, it's prettyawesome.
Pretty awesome.
Uh, good night, Chuck.
Thanks.
Uh, thanks for having us on, bythe way.
He says it's got to run.
See you guys next time.
(40:21):
Absolutely.
Um, but uh uh what's it,covaction?
SPEAKER_02 (40:27):
Covaction.
Covaction.
We messed that up one.
I know.
SPEAKER_04 (40:30):
I was calling COVID vacation or something.
I don't know.
Because they travel all aroundthe world.
I don't know.
Maybe someday they'll take uswith them.
We should do the podcast.
SPEAKER_02 (40:37):
We should do a collaboration podcast.
SPEAKER_04 (40:40):
We should.
We should.
Absolutely.
SPEAKER_02 (40:41):
Music and food.
SPEAKER_04 (40:45):
That could be dangerous.
That could be dangerous.
I don't know.
But uh, if you have ideas, ofcourse, you can always let us
know as well.
Um, but uh yeah, this is reallycool.
Uh, one thing I do want tomention.
Um, I was supposed to be talkingto Grayland James last night on
the podcast, uh, but he had aconflict.
So we have if you follow SkipHappens and you follow my
(41:06):
interviews with the artist, uh,he's been rescheduled for next
Tuesday night, eight o'clock.
Graylin James, water at awedding fair.
SPEAKER_02 (41:13):
Tune in.
SPEAKER_04 (41:14):
Yeah, it's gonna be a good show.
Yeah, it's always good.
It's always good, but uh yeah,it's always good.
It's interesting talking aboutthe music and all that, so you
know it just and your thoughtsbeing uh what they are, and my
thoughts being what they are.
It's but they all come together.
This is that's what it's about,Miss Ray.
It's what it's about.
(41:35):
Yeah, it is, and uh, you know,we're at that time of the year,
and uh I don't know, is uh yournotes?
Are you gone through your notes?
I um I have to ask becauseshe'll go, you didn't talk about
this.
SPEAKER_02 (41:48):
No, we we really hit on like a lot of everything you
were busy today.
I was I mean there were um whatwould be your anthem?
SPEAKER_04 (41:59):
Oh no, yeah, we talked about this.
SPEAKER_02 (42:02):
Yes, what would be if you had a song to describe
you, what would your your anthembe?
SPEAKER_04 (42:09):
Uh is it uh oh my god, don't forget about me,
don't forget me when I'm gone.
I don't know.
You wouldn't even know.
I'm trying to think.
Oh, glass tiger.
What I'm trying to the the groupwas Glass Tiger.
Don't you forget about me orsomething?
No, no, was it?
I don't know.
(42:30):
Something like that.
SPEAKER_02 (42:31):
Don't you forget about me?
SPEAKER_04 (42:33):
No, it's not that that not that one.
No, this is real rocky.
Um very rock edge, and BrianAdams sings a verse in it as
well.
I'll play it for you tomorrow.
SPEAKER_02 (42:45):
Yeah, I wish I knew.
SPEAKER_04 (42:46):
Yeah, I don't know.
What about you?
SPEAKER_02 (42:48):
I I would have to say Pursuit of Happiness by Kid
Cuddy.
Have you ever heard that song?
SPEAKER_05 (42:54):
I know what you're talking about, yes.
SPEAKER_02 (42:56):
You do?
SPEAKER_05 (42:56):
I yeah, I can't say I listen to it every day, but I
I know I know what you'retalking about.
SPEAKER_02 (43:01):
Yes.
SPEAKER_05 (43:01):
Um, yeah, tell me about the song.
SPEAKER_02 (43:04):
It's just talking about like living for you, doing
what makes you happy, and justkind of wanting to always do
things that that fill your cupand give you gratification, you
know.
SPEAKER_04 (43:17):
You know, I didn't mean to cut you off.
I'm sorry.
You're good.
I just ramble sometimes, but uh,I see Don Goslin is watching Don
uh with Valerie music.
Um, Don's on the edge ofretirement, he's he's going
good.
He's like, Okay, I've had enoughof this.
But I would love to ask somebodylike him.
Don't spend radio, he went outwith records.
Um, Don, if you're stillwatching, what song would
(43:41):
describe you?
I'm just really, really curious.
Tell me, all right.
Tell us if you're still there.
If not, I get it.
Barley hung up on us.
Barley said, I've had enough ofthis crap.
So, but yeah, and don't forgetif you're watching this, make
sure if you have not subscribedto Skip Happens, uh, you go to
Skip Happens on YouTube,subscribe because it it'll help
Miss Ray and myself out a lot.
(44:02):
Um, of course, we're gonna bedoing this uh every week and or
as much as we can.
So, but we do need to take careof this little split in the
screen here.
I know, you know, we gottafigure that out.
We gotta figure that out, but uhjust technical difficulties.
That's all that's why SkipHappens.
SPEAKER_02 (44:18):
That's what it's called.
SPEAKER_04 (44:19):
Skip happens, yeah.
So um we'll see if Don respondsor not.
But um is your let's talk aboutthis real quick.
Uh, your family ready for theholiday.
I know that we're doing this,it's like early December.
So uh all good.
A tree up.
SPEAKER_02 (44:35):
We we still well, we have two trees.
We have like one in our den,which is um, we do that tree for
like separate presents, like forChristmas Day.
Oh, and then, or maybe it's viceversa.
I don't remember what we switchit up every year.
It's um one Christmas tree isfor like our family, which is
before Christmas, and then onetree is for um like Christmas
(44:58):
Day for our immediate family.
SPEAKER_05 (45:00):
Oh, cool.
See, everybody looks at that.
We have are they real, first ofall?
SPEAKER_02 (45:04):
One of them is um real, that's the one that's like
in our living room, and I'm thereason that we we get a real
tree.
I'm a firm, firm believer thatit's not Christmas unless you
have a real tree.
We always went out.
I grew up, dad chopped down thetree.
My sister and I know you drag itout, dragged it, and it it was
(45:28):
just a whole it was a wholeexperience, though it looks a
little different.
You know, we're not choppingdown trees anymore, we're just
going to the Christmas treefarm, picking one that looks
well take down one$75 later.
SPEAKER_04 (45:41):
You've got it home.
SPEAKER_02 (45:42):
Yeah, which is yeah, my parents must love me a lot
because that's how much like afake one costs.
SPEAKER_04 (45:50):
You cannot uh so the smell of a real tree, you cannot
beat that.
Yeah, you know, but nowadaysthey have the little scents, the
things you plug in the wall andyou like a pine thing.
A pine thing.
I know we have fake.
We have one, two, three, four.
And uh four trees.
Yeah, we have a pencil tree inthe in the family room.
(46:10):
You may have seen it on your waydown to the studio.
Um, but that tree has theornaments on that tree, are all
like family ornaments, if youknow what I mean.
They're from Zach ornaments.
My dad used to, my dad used tolove the paint ornament.
I don't know what it was.
He he loved to do little craftythings with the ornaments.
We have a lot of those on thetree.
My mom, uh, family, just familyoriented for my daughters as
(46:34):
they went through school.
Now they're you know, they're ontheir own.
But uh tree is strict, yeah.
That the ornaments on that treeis strictly family.
On the big tree up in the livingroom, it's uh, you know, all the
formal ornaments, you know, theballs.
Did it again?
Did you see that?
SPEAKER_02 (46:52):
I did, I did, but I was also thinking about how
every time I come in the house,the tree upstairs looks like a
Christmas story Christmas tree.
SPEAKER_04 (47:02):
Because it's fake.
SPEAKER_02 (47:04):
No, because it's a little too big, it's got what do
you mean too big?
Are you saying my tree is toobig?
You know, all right.
SPEAKER_04 (47:13):
We can't put a star on it.
SPEAKER_02 (47:16):
I know, um, yeah, this ray, and it's but it's it's
fine.
I was telling, I was talkingwith your wife earlier about how
like it's not even that big of adeal because it's so big and
full, and you guys have thelittle um like strands on it,
and it's so full with ornamentsthat it doesn't even matter.
SPEAKER_04 (47:35):
She she decorates that, she doesn't allow me to
touch it.
The only thing I can help herwith is with the uh the little,
I don't know what she pullsaround the beads that see.
Oh, it's following my hand.
I gotta put my hand away.
Um, yeah, so no, I'm not allowedto touch it.
It's her deal.
So, anyways, okay, just thoughtI'd ask.
That's cool.
All right, well, we're good.
We're good, you know.
(47:56):
It's been great.
How about you?
SPEAKER_02 (47:57):
Are you getting ready for Christmas?
SPEAKER_04 (48:00):
Besides the Christmas trees, you see me in
the studio every day on Amazon.
SPEAKER_02 (48:04):
I'm just saying, and I almost got all my Christmas
shopping done.
No, almost everybody in my yeah,see, I did pretty good this
year.
Normally, I I usually do one bighaul and I regret it later.
Yeah, so this year I really waslike, I want to be better, I
want to space it out a littlebit more, and that is the way to
(48:26):
do it.
SPEAKER_04 (48:26):
That's a good thought.
Like that's the way to do it.
I thought in the middle ofsummer, I'm saying, you know
what?
I'm just gonna start gettingthings hiding, you know, hide
the presents, put them away.
What's the date?
December, you know, earlyDecember, and here we are.
Skip has one gift.
SPEAKER_02 (48:42):
Yeah, I was just gonna say, how many gifts do you
have?
Two?
SPEAKER_04 (48:45):
Like it's the it's I did the same thing.
It's the Amazon box that showedup at the radio station.
Because that's that's what I do.
It's like it's oh yeah, that'sit.
Anyway, so that's our life.
That's that's the way it is.
And uh, Miss Ray and uh ofcourse myself, Skip Clark, and
uh, this is what we call skiphappens, just everyday
discussion.
(49:05):
Uh, if you got something you'dlike to hear us uh talk about,
just you know, get outlined, letus know.
SPEAKER_05 (49:11):
That's all we'll talk about it, talk about
everything, and uh yeah.
So what do you think?
SPEAKER_02 (49:17):
Yeah, I got I got something I'd like to talk
about.
So kind of talking about I feellike the theme's been like real
people this uh episode, andexcept for Roblox.
Except for Roblox.
SPEAKER_05 (49:29):
Okay, okay.
SPEAKER_02 (49:30):
But I kind of want to touch on how artists create
these parasocial relationships.
Do you know what I mean by that?
So what I mean is um with theirfans.
So basically, like artists comeout with this music and fans
interpret them and think thatthey know these artists, and
(49:50):
then they form this relationshipwhere they they like understand
the artist based on their music.
But do you think that the musicdefines the artist?
SPEAKER_04 (50:02):
Not entirely, but I think for country music, the
music that they put out, and ifthey have a hand in writing it,
I think it reflects a lot ofwhat they go through in their
personal life.
SPEAKER_02 (50:12):
And what about the fans?
Like kind of looking at thefans, do you think like it's I
don't want to use the wordhealthy, but like I don't know.
Do you think that we should becreating these relationships
where we become reallyinfluenced by musical artists in
(50:33):
that way?
SPEAKER_04 (50:35):
Music is a universal language.
I mean, there there isabsolutely so much that I hear a
song and I connect with theartist by thinking, wow, that
song's about me.
Wow, how did he know?
But you know what?
SPEAKER_02 (50:55):
I've had that moment where I thought that's a good
thing.
SPEAKER_04 (50:57):
We're all human, and it's like they they go through
experiences just like we gothrough experiences, uh, you
know, relationships anddifferent things that happen in
our lives, and that's that'swith country music, we call it
the soundtrack to your life.
It is really when you thinkabout it, and that's how when
you hear a song, and sometimesthat's how you get connected to
(51:19):
an artist.
Um I know with Tyler, uh afriend of mine, he talked to um
Kelsey um Hart.
No, Kelsey um wait a minute, whowas it?
Who do we have here?
SPEAKER_02 (51:33):
Kelsey Hart.
SPEAKER_04 (51:34):
Okay, I am right.
Kelsey Hart.
And uh Kelsey gave him somegreat advice, and it this came
through his music too.
And uh Tyler will always he'sconnected to him because of
that.
He's a fan because of his music.
He connected through a song, anduh it's pretty cool.
He was going through a roughthing.
SPEAKER_02 (51:53):
That's like the medium of connection.
SPEAKER_04 (51:55):
I think it is, I think it is.
Yeah, yeah, I think so.
That makes sense.
SPEAKER_02 (51:59):
That does make sense.
SPEAKER_04 (52:00):
So I think there's that connection there with the
with the music and and personallife.
SPEAKER_02 (52:04):
I mean, you know, and what do you go ahead?
When we say music, I think thatthere's a lot that goes into the
word music.
You know, there's the theinstrumental, there's the words,
there's an emotion, like a anoverlying emotion.
Like we know that faster-pacedmusic is probably gonna
(52:25):
insinuate something like happyor getting you pumped up, but if
something's slower, it's it's tomellow you out.
Um I guess my question is iswhat do you think that there's a
certain one of those thatdefines music, or do you think
all of them combined makesmusic?
SPEAKER_04 (52:43):
I think all of them combined makes music.
Okay, it all depends.
I think it's it's all over.
I mean, you're right.
There's uh there's faster music,there's harder music, and it
depends on what you know whatyour mood is and what you want
and what you've been through.
And uh, and then there's uh, youknow, the instrumentals.
There's wow, there's somereally, you know, I love a steel
(53:04):
guitar, and that just kind ofputs me in a like a really like
I say this, I don't want tosound cheesy, but like a
romantic mood.
It's like this is so cool.
SPEAKER_02 (53:15):
Um I I get it.
I when I listen to a bassguitar, I feel indestructible.
I'm like, yeah, like yeah, likeI'm like, I don't know why that
or um a saxophone or a trumpet,like yeah, a sax one of those
sexy, yeah.
Like they they have these kindof exactly, yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (53:36):
They create certain feelings and have certain like I
hear I hear a trumpet in a Ithink of uh you know, um I just
think like like groups likeChicago and Earth Wind and Fire,
and that where they had a lot ofbig brass section, and it really
brought the sound of the musicout, and it wasn't you know, a
lot of it was instrumental, itwas just so cool, so cool.
So, yeah, absolutely.
(53:58):
Yeah, good questions there.
I know, I know.
Look at you digging into allthat, but uh yeah, that's what
we do here.
So it's skip happens, and um,you know, don't forget next
week, uh, it's the ninth, anduh, I'll have Grayland James on,
Nashville Artist, Water at aWedding.
Go listen to the music.
It's been out, Water at aWedding's been out for a little
(54:20):
bit.
Um, but yeah, and we also hadthem in town.
We brought him in to uh for ourlisteners with the wolf, and uh,
I think we're the only countrystation that actually brings the
artist in for you, so it doesn'tcost you anything to go.
Just keep that in the back ofyour mind.
If you're from central New Yorkand you listen to country, if
you're in another part of thecountry, I don't know.
Tell you, you can listen online,but you're gonna have to fly in.
SPEAKER_02 (54:41):
Come visit, come visit, come visit.
You might not want to right now.
We're covered in snow, but butthat's what happens.
Maybe more so you, becauseyou're in the in uh what they
call it, snowbell, which isactually it's quite flipped
right now, which is sointeresting with Lake Effect and
you didn't have this in uh umno, it's actually calmer in in
(55:04):
there at home.
SPEAKER_04 (55:06):
Well, we were worried about you because we
talked about the podcast today,whether or not you make the trip
in, but obviously everything wasgood.
And when I came home from theradio station, everything was
was good.
SPEAKER_02 (55:15):
Roads were worse more towards your house, which
is interesting because it shouldbe worse at my house.
SPEAKER_04 (55:21):
And it probably will be knock on wood, knock on the
table.
There you go.
All right, everybody, I want tosay thank you for watching.
Uh, thank you for listening.
Um, you know, let us know whatwe can do better, do less of uh
it's skip happens.
We we talk about anything.
Uh, we got some good stuffcoming down in the near future,
and don't forget, um, I usuallyuh try to get the artists down
(55:42):
with us as well.
And uh I know I do a lot ofthose interviews, and maybe once
in a while Miss Ray will be inon those, or um, you know, maybe
my buddy Tyler.
I don't know.
But uh yeah, we're lookingforward to that.
But uh, thank you for watching.
You you got anything else youwant to add?
SPEAKER_02 (55:57):
Um, I I don't know.
Hi, mom.
Hi dad.
Yeah, hey everyone.
Um, no, I think we touched oneverything.
I think this was an awesomeepisode.
I think we touched on touched onsome really great stuff.
SPEAKER_04 (56:11):
I love it.
I love it.
Absolutely.
Thanks for watching.
SPEAKER_01 (56:14):
Thanks for watching.
SPEAKER_04 (56:15):
Yes, Miss Ray.
Yeah, I can't point over there.
There she is, even though she'slike three feet from me, but my
arm disappears.
Hey, can I make my arm likethere it is?
SPEAKER_02 (56:24):
Oh my gosh.
unknown (56:27):
What?
SPEAKER_05 (56:28):
See?
Come on, come on, there it is.
SPEAKER_02 (56:32):
I wish my arm was still in there.
SPEAKER_04 (56:34):
Yeah, there it is.
All right.
Well, thanks for watching,everybody.
Have a great night, and uh,we'll be back with you next
week.
Uh, watch, stream anytime.
Tell your friends about it,share it, do whatever you gotta
do, subscribe to youtube.comslash at skip happens podcast.
Have a great night, everybody.
Bye.
SPEAKER_01 (56:51):
See you.
We're live.
(00:01):
Welcome from the Gary's Get ItDone.
Gary these days been lying inhis bed name.
Working on the same car going ondecade.
SPEAKER_02 (00:13):
We have Gary in the house tonight.
SPEAKER_03 (00:15):
Scribbles on junk now.
SPEAKER_04 (00:17):
We're playing the song again.
Listen, listen.
SPEAKER_03 (00:22):
Never really noticed, but now let's mention
it.
What else?
There ain't a lot of boys namedGary these days.
Born with a cigarette, glue tothe face.
Fix about anything a hammercan't handle.
Save an on a moment, cause aGary don't gamble.
Ain't a lot of girls going byDebbie anymore.
(00:43):
But they got the same katoon foranother portion.
Hello, everybody.
Skip happens.
SPEAKER_04 (00:50):
And uh, you know, I always say every boot tells a
story, but that's when I'minterviewing the artist.
But we also um Mr.
Ray and myself come together touh, you know, if it's happening,
we talk about it.
It's like another extension ofSkip Happens, and Miss Ray's in
the house.
I love the song, by the way.
It's Gary, right?
Stephen Wilson Jr.
(01:11):
And it's Gary.
You know, you you had a chanceto meet Gary.
I mean, uh, well, now you're notGary.
SPEAKER_02 (01:17):
I did have the chance to meet Gary.
He's in the house tonight.
Um, my new name.
I had an opportunity to meetSteven Wilson Jr., and so did
you, which was so awesome.
We got to meet him, we got tosee him perform a little bit.
He did a phenomenal job.
Great performance.
SPEAKER_04 (01:36):
He did because he he touches on like the Nirvana
song.
You were talking about theNirvana song.
SPEAKER_02 (01:42):
Yes.
So when we were there, he ofcourse performed his own songs,
which are all phenomenal.
You should go check them out.
But he did this rendition ofSomething in the Way by Nirvana.
And I don't know if anybody inthe audience also listens to
Nirvana, but I listened toSomething in the Way at least
once a week.
It's a great song.
And when he's like, I'm gonnasing something in the way, I was
(02:04):
like, like Nirvana?
And you know, you're like, andwho would have thought that,
right?
And he he sang Nirvana, but itwas this country rock twist that
I was not expecting, and Iactually was so impressed by
that performance.
I looked him up on Spotifywithin the same week and added
(02:24):
it to my playlist because I waslike, wow, this is so good.
SPEAKER_04 (02:29):
That was the show with Hardy, yes, and uh Stephen
Wilson Jr.
And they had an opener therethat night, but uh that was a
great show.
You know what?
I think they they they did itright when they put uh Steven
Wilson Jr.
SPEAKER_02 (02:42):
on the bill with Hardy because you know what,
Miss Ray, they they kind of havethat same thing because Hardy
can go very rock edge, Hardy canI was just gonna say that they
kind of have that harder edgedcountry side to them, and they
talk they're kind of rougheraround the edges, you know, and
they talk about that and theyexpress that in their music.
And I don't know, I just thinkthat that's it's cool, it's
(03:05):
amazing.
SPEAKER_00 (03:05):
It's so cool, yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (03:06):
It's so cool, it's so cool, and it's cool to see
those two worlds kind of mesh,you know.
SPEAKER_04 (03:12):
And we were talking about that before we went out
with the lights in the camera,about um, you know, how it's uh
it's a whole different ballgamenow, so to speak, where you
know, the meshing of the genresof the formats coming together
and a lot of crossover.
I mean, what was country is notjust country anymore.
What the hip hop rap?
Um, just saw Neo singing acountry song.
SPEAKER_02 (03:34):
Yep.
Yeah, and we see rappers kind ofstepping into the country world
going vice versa.
Um, Big X the plug, that MexicanOT.
They they're kind of havingtheir own country twist or
artists collaborating, uh, likerappers collaborating with
country artists, and then thathappening vice versa, like the
country artists engaging withwith the rapper, like Jesse
(03:57):
Murph and yes, Cole Wetzel.
Yes, and too.
SPEAKER_04 (04:00):
Yep, yep, exactly.
And and we we saw was it no?
That was a whole nother show.
No, it was Cole Wetzel was therethat night, right?
SPEAKER_02 (04:06):
He was, he was there opening for Hardy as well.
What a great show! I hope that II wish I could relive that
crazy.
SPEAKER_04 (04:15):
Uh, I know, I know.
SPEAKER_02 (04:17):
So I wonder if that idea of like artists kind of
being versatile and kind ofneeding to genre bend has always
been present.
Do you do you feel that like I Ifeel like it's really common
now.
We see it with Taylor.
She went country.
SPEAKER_00 (04:33):
Oh my god.
SPEAKER_02 (04:34):
We see it with Beyonce, she went pop to um to
country.
SPEAKER_04 (04:38):
There was a lot of pushback on that though.
When Beyonce did that, uh that'strue.
I thought it wasn't a bad, a badmove because now she is exposing
a lot of her fans to the countryside of things, and it also
works the other way around.
SPEAKER_02 (04:53):
So that's true.
SPEAKER_04 (04:55):
That's what happened there.
So I didn't have a problem withthat.
I know a lot of diehard countrypeople is like, well, why is she
in here?
What the hell is she doing?
Why, you know, but she grew upin Texas.
She come on, let's just a lot ofthese artists.
Uh, just because they've beenputting out music, uh, a
different genre, does not meanthey they didn't grow up on
country.
I mean, you never know.
(05:16):
You don't know, you know.
Neo's a good example of that.
He said he was brought up oncountry, but look what he's been
doing until now.
So, same thing.
SPEAKER_02 (05:23):
You know, I mean, I can attest to that as well.
I grew up as a little girl.
My dad was listening to 92.1 TheWolf.
He was a diehard country fan,still is.
And I grew up to really not bevery keen.
I love that genre, but not likeas it was when I was younger,
(05:44):
but not anymore.
It's not, you know, so I'm gonnajust shift and and change.
And I think that that's reallyinteresting.
SPEAKER_04 (05:50):
What do you um you have sisters?
SPEAKER_02 (05:52):
Yes, are they country or do they kind of yes,
and that's my sisters are verycountry, so I'm really the only
one that leans kind of moreagainst it.
It's not that I'm I'm not a andwhy do you think that is?
I don't know, and I think that'san interesting concept, how like
two parents like parents canraise different kids, you know,
(06:16):
and I think that that might bewhere that that comes from is
just different people anddifferent interests, and um
well, they have their friends,right?
SPEAKER_04 (06:26):
Not the same friends.
I imagine you have your friends,your sisters have their friends
and what they're being broughtup on and the music they're
listening to, correct?
Yeah, cool.
Hello, Chuck.
Thanks for having us on.
And uh Chuck's doing, by theway, um, they're doing a really
cool thing.
Uh, hopefully, it's covaction.
I hopefully I got it right thisweek.
(06:47):
Cove action.
So he's doing uh not to breakaway from what we're talking
about, but he's got like this umthe advent calendar, but every
day is a different flavor ofscotch, and he he's going on his
podcast every night and doingthat.
I think they must be in day fournow.
So yeah, well, yeah, obviously.
So it's pretty cool what youguys are doing, you and Laura.
SPEAKER_00 (07:08):
We're gonna have to check that out.
SPEAKER_04 (07:09):
Yeah, absolutely.
But getting back to the music,um, you know, the whole genre
bending and all that that'sgoing on is is more now than
it's ever been.
SPEAKER_02 (07:19):
Right.
SPEAKER_04 (07:19):
And I I don't it's not just with country, I mean
it's all across the board.
It's everybody's going everywhich way, so yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (07:26):
And we know I don't think you had um had touched on
it.
Has that always been present?
Or do you think Beyonce kind ofopened opened the floodgates, if
you will, kind of was like thefirst one to really open our
eyes to that.
SPEAKER_04 (07:40):
I think it's always been present, but I think it
really took a leap when she shedid that.
Okay, and uh now, you know, likeI mentioned this a few minutes
ago, you know, you get you seeNeo, and uh we got Shabozy.
Look at Shabuzy, you know.
You look at him and you go, he'sa country artist.
SPEAKER_02 (07:57):
That's another great example.
SPEAKER_04 (07:58):
Yeah, I know he's a good example.
I mean, he's got some greatmusic out there, as a matter of
fact.
Um I'm watching Chuck isposting, love country fusion,
you know, and that's what we'retalking about because it's all
coming together, yeah.
Um, but uh Stephen Wilson Jr.
on the CMA Awards performed withShabuzy.
(08:18):
Yes, they were both out there,so that was interesting too, you
know.
So it kind of shows you thatit's all over, it's all over the
place in a good way.
SPEAKER_02 (08:26):
Do you think that um award shows are still relevant?
Do you think like the CMAs andthe Grammys, do you think they
still hold value current day?
SPEAKER_04 (08:37):
I think they do.
Um, they say the CMA awards arethe biggest night in country
music.
I I firmly believe that they getthe show off.
Uh what I don't know too muchabout, and uh I don't know if I
really want to go there, but umthe feeling is that people are
getting and artists are gettingawards when there's other
(08:59):
artists that have done more.
Or how is that working?
Are the record labels doingsomething?
Are they, you know, I mean,there's this something going on,
but uh I love the show, and Ithink you know country fans are
gonna love the show, they'regonna see their favorite
artists.
Um, and they're all inattendance and they're all on
the red carpet.
Well, almost all Morgan Wallenwasn't there, but he's he's got
(09:22):
like uh chip on his shoulderabout the CMAs, and I get it, I
totally get it.
Doesn't mean he's not a greatperformer, doesn't I mean look
what he's done.
Um, album sold, I mean, recordbreaking.
He's got how many songs on thewolf?
I mean, it just keeps going andgoing uh with him, but yet now
he what he doesn't get likeentertainer of the year, he
(09:43):
doesn't, it's like what it justkind of makes you think a little
bit.
Not that yes, you know, and Ilove the other artist as well,
but I'm just saying, you know.
SPEAKER_02 (09:51):
Me kind of thinking more towards the Grammys, I I
definitely I mean, I'm justthinking I think they definitely
hold value for sure.
I mean, I mentioned firstepisode how Doji was the third
woman to win like album of theyear as a rap category, um, as a
rap artist, and like that to meholds value.
(10:12):
And then I know when the Grammyswere released, I think um, I
believe they came out lastmonth.
I looked at that list, I waslike, okay, so who's album of
the year?
Who's this?
I think it's because it's agreat way to recap who are the
top artists of the year and likethe uh the songs of the year,
you know, you kind of can likereminisce on like, oh my gosh,
(10:34):
do you remember the song of2025?
Or this, you know, just I thinkthat those are that's what holds
value with with awards.
SPEAKER_04 (10:42):
So I before I I went on online and got myself list.
You've got yours written down.
SPEAKER_02 (10:48):
Yes, I've uh yes, we're different.
SPEAKER_04 (10:53):
This is this is kind of funny though, when you think
about it.
She's got like uh you know,lined paper, the old style
tablet written in ink, madenotes about what we were gonna
talk about.
Tell me, we go on AI, nice neat.
Now, you would think it would bethe other way around, yeah, just
because of who we are and thedifference between us, but it is
(11:14):
and kind of looking atgenerations and accessibility
and how they would kind of leanmore towards.
SPEAKER_02 (11:20):
I think it's it's interesting how how you went
more technologically, if youwill, and I went more like pen
and paper.
I was just spitballing ideas.
I was like, What are we doing?
SPEAKER_04 (11:35):
It's crazy.
So I went online and uh I've gotuh, you know, like I asked, who
is America listening to rightnow on Spotify?
And he gave me the top 10artists in the United States.
All right.
At number 10, it's Kanye West.
All right, number nine, Tylerthe creator.
Now the guy sells out shows inseconds.
(11:56):
Let's be real about that.
SPEAKER_02 (11:57):
I mean, have you seen him perform?
His shows are phenomenal.
He's one of those artists thatlike he puts his whole body,
heart, and soul, everything intoit.
SPEAKER_04 (12:08):
Uh, was it Za?
Is it S C A?
Zaza?
Uh oh no, no, number eight.
I'm sorry, I went ahead ofmyself here.
Uh, number eight is our countryboy.
I gotta say this.
Uh, Zach Bryan, still holdingstrong.
Zach Bryan.
Uh Za S Z A.
SPEAKER_01 (12:24):
Oh, Siza.
SPEAKER_04 (12:26):
Sizza Sizza.
Uh oh.
SPEAKER_01 (12:28):
Skip, she was in my top five for Spotify wrapped.
Uh-oh.
I love you could have butcheredthat way.
SPEAKER_04 (12:38):
Well, from what I'm reading, though, she's
absolutely owning RB.
Everything that I'm seeing isthat Sisa is actually doing
that.
SPEAKER_02 (12:46):
Yeah, I gotta write the girl of RB right now.
She's oh my god.
This last year she went on tourwith Kendrick Lamar.
SPEAKER_04 (12:53):
Um amazing, amazing, amazing, amazing.
You know, I have seen her, Ijust wasn't sure how to say
that.
SPEAKER_02 (13:01):
Yeah, you you have a face, yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (13:03):
Exactly.
I do.
How about the weekend?
The weekend was number six.
Uh, he's breaking stillstreaming records the weekend.
Uh, at number five, he's gonnabe at the Super Bowl, and uh,
there was a lot of controversyabout this, but uh and I love
it, Puerto Rican.
Uh, we're talking about BadBunny basically shuts down the
(13:24):
internet anytime he dropssomething.
If a new song comes out, they'reall over it.
It's no wonder that he's atthat's awesome that he's gonna
be at the Super Bowl.
Yeah, I may have somebodywatching this going, what are
you kidding?
No, we didn't want him, wewanted Taylor.
And there was rumor for a littlebit that Taylor Swift was gonna
be at the Super Bowl.
Now we know that's nothappening, as far as we know.
All right, Kendrick Lamar at uhnumber four.
(13:47):
Okay.
Um Pulser uh Pulitzer a prize,and still one of the best doing
it.
Um, that's what I made notethere.
Uh Morgan Wallen at numberthree.
Here we go.
SPEAKER_02 (13:59):
He comes out with lots of songs, you know.
He's he's constantly pushing outmusic, he's one of those artists
that is above and beyondconsistent.
So I'm not surprised he's in topthree at all.
Okay, and his no surprise thenno, not for me.
I think I think he also he's gotthat magic.
(14:20):
He you whether you love him orhate him, he just comes out with
these mainstream hits thatpeople are like, I I really
resonate with that.
SPEAKER_04 (14:29):
Country fans, they show up big for him.
It doesn't number two spot.
How about Drake?
It's like a streaming machine.
This guy just can't go wrong,right?
I mean, huge.
And uh, here we go.
The number one most streamedartist T Swift Taylor.
SPEAKER_02 (14:47):
Are we surprised?
SPEAKER_04 (14:48):
No, or not.
Um, shocking absolutely nobodywith that statement, and uh,
that would be the top 10 rightnow.
Um, the top 10 streaming.
That's what I got off that.
That was pretty cool.
Made my little notes next to it.
SPEAKER_02 (15:02):
Are any of those artists in your playlist?
SPEAKER_04 (15:05):
Uh yeah, one Zach Bryan.
Okay.
Uh Morgan Wallen, of course.
Yeah, those are the two.
Out of that, those are the twothat we're playing.
Um, you know, obviously, we'renot doing the Lamar and the
Tyler, the creator, not on, youknow, not on the wolf or Kanye
West, but yeah.
But I did, I worked at oursister station uh moving.
(15:27):
We were playing Kanye West.
I remember doing that.
I mean, that was a littledifferent for me to be doing
that, but uh, I was doingmiddays on that radio station
and it was uh you know talkingabout Kanye West.
SPEAKER_02 (15:37):
I remember you don't say it.
I'm gonna say it.
We have to say just because youjust messed up Siz's name.
I think it's important forpeople to know that that Skip
does this sometimes.
That's why we need phonetics.
Didn't you one time?
SPEAKER_04 (15:50):
Yes, yes, I did, I did messed up Kanye because I it
was earlier in his career, solet's not hold Skip.
Yeah, well, you know, doingcountry 99% of my career,
absolutely love it, love theformat, love the music.
I love the way you know we'retalking here in the crossover.
I think that's great.
And to be honest with you, I canlisten to almost any type of
(16:11):
music.
I just you know, you never knowwhat my mood's gonna be.
I'm gonna listen to it.
But um, yeah, so I uh I think Icalled him Kenya, Ken, Ken,
Kenya, Kenya, Kenya West, thenKenya, uh Kenya, and I'm like
going, okay.
And then I remember going,that's not it.
(16:31):
So that was that was a long timeago.
Look how long he's been around.
But uh, you know, if you're notfamiliar with the format and the
artist, I totally get it.
Yeah, and so I get it.
I have people that mispronouncethe country artists when they
hear a song and they come up tome and I'll go, oh, you mean you
know, so yeah, exactly.
So that's kind of crazy.
That's kind of crazy.
(16:52):
It happens though.
SPEAKER_05 (16:52):
It happens, it does.
SPEAKER_04 (16:56):
What do you get with it?
You just embarrass the hell outof me.
SPEAKER_02 (17:00):
That I I I didn't mean to.
I I think I didn't mean to.
I just think it's so funny.
It is see, you know, because I Ido it to country artists.
You do, she does.
Sometimes I look at their names,I'm like, what the heck?
Or when um our other sisterstation or brother station, the
dinosaur, those artists that arefrom like the 60s, 70s, and 80s,
(17:22):
there's some of them that I'mlike, I don't know how to say
this.
SPEAKER_04 (17:26):
How would you know that though?
How would you unless I don'teven know, you know, your mom
and dad, but still your mom anddad are pretty young.
So how would you know that?
I mean, I'm a big like I say, Ilove all kinds of music, and it
what really would put me in agood mood is through um I listen
to a lot of the older stuffsometimes, and uh you may hear
it coming out of my office oncein a while when I'm like, I need
(17:47):
to a little pick me up, yes, youknow, and then Becky will go, I
remember that from the clubs.
So, and then we're talking about80s, so yes, oh my god, that was
crazy, crazy stuff though.
SPEAKER_02 (17:58):
Crazy stuff that's so funny.
Aside from radio, what's yourfavorite way to like listen to
music?
Like favorite medium oflistening to music.
Oh my would it be like in a clubthrough a speaker?
No, like would it be no?
SPEAKER_04 (18:16):
I don't do the club thing.
SPEAKER_02 (18:18):
Um, and I don't even know how would it be live music?
SPEAKER_04 (18:22):
I love live music.
SPEAKER_02 (18:23):
Do you like live music?
SPEAKER_04 (18:24):
I love live music, you know, even though I DJ'd
weddings for god knows how manyyears, I love music is a whole
different experience, it is, andI have a lot of respect for the
musicians, and uh we getinvolved with the Sammy Awards
every year, which is theSyracuse Area Music Awards, and
uh being able to see some ofthat and be with the artist and
see what they put into it, itmeans so much.
(18:46):
It's live music.
Gotta love that, gotta lovethat.
Um, it's not AI, it's the realartist, if you know what I mean.
Yeah, um the real magic.
But uh, I think the but youknow, I go on on my computer.
Um, I get a lot of music from,you know, I'll listen, I'll go
through YouTube on a Sundaymorning.
That's what I do.
(19:06):
I'm down here in my boxers and at-shirt, and I'm like on my
other computer.
Just uh it kind of, you know,I'm listening to a lot of the
the new music, and uh yeah, Imean, and sometimes I'll hear
something and go, I gotta getthat on the wolf, I gotta get
that on the radio.
Um, then I kind of look to seewhat labels you know they're
working with, and you know, I'lltalk to the label and find out
(19:27):
if a lot of the music that youdo hear, a lot of the the new
music that is so good, um,they're not releasing a lot of
that to radio.
You get it on the internet, youget it by uh different uh
digital service DSPs.
SPEAKER_02 (19:42):
Like TikTok.
Yeah, TikTok is a great exampleof people getting asked.
I was gonna go there music.
SPEAKER_04 (19:47):
That's where yes, way ahead of the the game for
radio.
Exactly, 100%.
100%.
Absolutely.
So I would say, you know, I Ithink the radio, I mean, it's a
proven fact.
That uh for most people, theradio is where they discover new
music.
It's the radio.
It's somebody like me.
I go a little bit deeper for thereason I want to find out what's
(20:10):
out there and what's coming andwhat can I get on and get on as
soon as possible.
SPEAKER_02 (20:14):
Right.
And I'm not sure if we touchedon this um in one of our
previous podcasts, but streamingservices like Spotify, Apple
Music, they follow algorithmsand same with TikTok.
They do follow algorithms, sothey're pushing out content and
music that you're engaging withmore often with.
And radio doesn't do that, it'sjust it's going and throwing you
(20:37):
a whole bunch of differentthings just to give you a whole
different experience.
So I I I can uh see where you'regetting that, yeah, and see
where that's true.
SPEAKER_04 (20:45):
And and I don't like that idea though, because now
these people aren't beingexposed to a lot of the yeah,
the other stuff that's outthere.
And for example, Steven WilsonJr., how many people you know,
how many people really know him?
You know what I mean?
Yeah, I know and uh it got akind of real live DJ radio still
rules, it does, absolutely.
And one thing I will say, andthere's a big controversy now.
(21:07):
I know we talked touched on AIlast time around.
I'm not gonna go there um realdeep, but I will say that, for
example, the radio station thatI'm at, um, we're real DJs,
you're we're human, we're inthere every day.
We're not using AI voices to doa radio show.
Uh, there are some stations thatdo that now.
(21:28):
Um, we play nothing but the realartist.
You're not gonna hear, and therewas some talk here not too long
ago about uh, you know, thenumber one listen to song on
Billboard was this guy thatnever existed existed, and a
song that was made up with AI.
So that that's to me, it'sbullshit because the artist
(21:51):
you're taken away from theartist and his craft.
Um, but uh I can tell you, Iknow with our radio station,
we're real, we're real, it'sreal all the way around.
Uh Big D and Bubba in themorning, they're real.
Yeah, granted, they're not inSyracuse, they're in their own
studio in Nashville, but we talkto them every day, we tell them
what's going on, and they'recreating original content, and
exactly.
(22:12):
And then you got Marissa allday, all day long, talking about
everything that's going on intown.
You got me in the afternoon, yougot B dub at night, and
overnight's you know, it's backto back.
And our late females, how coolis that?
SPEAKER_02 (22:24):
I think that's awesome.
SPEAKER_04 (22:25):
I don't know, it's great, you know.
SPEAKER_02 (22:28):
We're working on really marketing that that's
something that's in the works.
Um, so if you're watching, nowyou know you're gonna really
come out with that because wethink that that's amazing.
Um, and we really want tohighlight these phenomenal
ladies, you know, and thatdoesn't happen enough.
Yeah, you know, and uh for it'sI love the female talent, I love
(22:49):
hearing that on the air, just togive a good balance when it
comes to the radio station withthe guys and the girls, and it
just kind of balances it all awhole bunch of different
perspectives and and the theages of the ladies, the
experiences that all of theladies go through are all
different, they all havedifferent stories and things
going on in their lives.
So you're getting insight ondifferent people's perspectives
(23:13):
that I think is really, reallycool.
And to kind of um, I kind ofwanted to touch back on the real
people at the radio station.
And something that I didn'trealize until I started working
in a radio station was thesupport that a radio station
directly has with the artistsand creating real events like
concerts, like live concerts,and how like you make a safe
(23:36):
environment when we doshowcases.
You know, you're there reallyworking to make sure that like
there's support for the recordlabel, you know, like if
something needs to be done, ifwe have to adjust, if we got to
change a graphic on a TV becauseit looks wonky, we're gonna get
it done before you even realizebecause that's what needs to be
done.
And I think that's somethingthat we don't really accredit to
(23:59):
radio as much anymore because Ithink we're so you're so
overshadowed when it comes tolive events by Ticketmaster and
and Live Nation that you're youforget that there is a local
factor um that's reallyimportant to making these events
actually happen.
SPEAKER_04 (24:15):
Let me ask you this.
Um, I'm gonna put this up on thescreen here.
This is this is pretty cool.
So um do you think AI musiccould become its own genre?
SPEAKER_02 (24:27):
That's uh that's a really great uh great question.
SPEAKER_04 (24:32):
It is a very good question.
I don't have an answer.
I hope it doesn't.
Because I just hope it doesn't,it's not human.
SPEAKER_02 (24:39):
I I don't know because AI's really just I think
AI is still so unknown.
And I think from ourunderstanding, maybe it's my I
don't know.
Maybe it's my understanding,it's it's stuff that's already
been experienced or knowledgethat we already know.
So to break out and havesomething new or a new genre.
(25:02):
I don't know how that couldhappen if it's based off of
things that have alreadyhappened, if that makes sense.
I don't I don't know.
We don't know if AI is capableof creating this whole new
unheard thing.
I think that's that's the reallyscary and unforeseen thing.
SPEAKER_04 (25:20):
Chuck is saying Queen saw this happening back
in '84.
So I don't know.
That's wow.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Yeah, that's a great question.
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (25:31):
I was gonna um segue into digital concerts.
You baby, digital, yes.
So Skip and I were talking aboutum Roblox, which is a gaming uh
software for all ages, how thereare games that recreate uh like
digital concerts.
(25:53):
And I was like concertexperience, yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (25:55):
So I was like, uh, you're kidding.
Well, how does that work?
Whatever.
And you said, look, I I'm gonnashow you, and this is what this
is what she showed me.
Let me see.
Hopefully, it'll come up.
So uh here we go.
So this is let's see if it'llplay.
So this is um this isroadblocks, all right?
SPEAKER_02 (26:11):
Right.
So this um I think you gotta goto the other tab up top.
SPEAKER_00 (26:18):
I gotta go where up top all the way up top.
SPEAKER_02 (26:24):
Um the left up up.
SPEAKER_04 (26:28):
Okay, we are uh like pushing buttons here and
nothing's gonna be able to dothat.
SPEAKER_02 (26:32):
Okay, so this image, pretend it's playing.
Um so the figure in the back,the really tall figure is Lil
Nas X.
And throughout the video, itshows uh little characters, the
smaller figures, those arepeople that are gamers, like
they're engaging with the game,and then Lil Nas X isn't there
(26:53):
in the beginning, and then allof a sudden he shows up and he
goes through a whole soundtrackof music and performs, and all
these people get to like jump,they get to engage in the chat,
and they get to experience thisdigital concert.
This is cool.
SPEAKER_05 (27:10):
I just I'm trying to get we had it going before.
What did I do?
SPEAKER_02 (27:14):
I think on the tab, you have to go to yes, and then
press play there.
SPEAKER_05 (27:20):
You think of course not?
SPEAKER_02 (27:21):
Can't nobody tell me nothing, and then Lil' Nasdax is
the artist.
SPEAKER_04 (27:31):
I got you now.
Oh, you know, let me try to dothis.
Go back here.
I guess I should just hand youthe keyboard.
Yeah, uh, but uh oh my gosh,we'll fix that next time.
We'll leave that.
That's freaking great.
So you get a you get a goodexample of what uh you know what
that is, and uh that's the firsttime I've done that, by the way.
(27:55):
Uh oh, what happened?
Oh, there's my camera.
Never mind.
I should hand you the keyboard.
Uh but uh you know, these newcameras I have, they they follow
you.
So if I was to go like this, Ithink my camera would go over to
there.
SPEAKER_02 (28:09):
And then if I want to go over here, you know, I
have the same camera, but minedoesn't like me as much as it
likes.
SPEAKER_04 (28:15):
So if I wanted to stop, I can just go like this
and let's see if it flashes andit's not gonna do it because
we're live on the air.
Of course, it's not gonna do it.
That's why we call this skiphappens.
But, anyways, but yeah, exactly.
So that's roadblocks, you know,that would be cool because we
all know how much tickets are.
You want to go to a concert,it's hundreds of dollars.
SPEAKER_02 (28:37):
Let's go for travel.
There's a lot of time that goesinto a concert.
I mean, I am one of those girlsthat takes an hour and a half,
two hours to get ready for aconcert.
I can't help myself.
So, to just be able to go to aRoblox concert, I can wear
sweatpants, have my hair in abun, not do my eyebrows and have
(28:58):
the same experience um justdigitally.
And it, I don't know.
SPEAKER_04 (29:03):
It makes me wonder if if that could be a you know,
I could come down in my box withshorts and my t-shirt, like I
said when I listen to music.
I could watch a concert.
SPEAKER_02 (29:12):
I wonder if you could watch Morgan Wallen, like
a digital Morgan Wallen concert.
I wonder um if they would dothose.
I know they do um like liveservers, so it's not like a
game.
SPEAKER_04 (29:23):
We have to look that in just up there because I like
to talk about that, but uh, Idon't have all the info here in
front of me now.
And what you're telling me, youknow, who knows if I hit a
button here, I might loseeverything.
So uh I I don't want to gothere.
SPEAKER_00 (29:35):
We don't want that, yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (29:36):
But that's cool.
So it's roadblock roadblocksR-O-B-L-O.
SPEAKER_02 (29:42):
R-O-B-L-O-X.
X roadblock.
SPEAKER_04 (29:47):
I got it.
That's cool.
It's been around a while though.
SPEAKER_02 (29:49):
It has, it's actually a super, super popular
game.
It's a lot of people engage withit, and it's actually more
popular among um kids.
SPEAKER_04 (29:59):
Okay, that's not me.
SPEAKER_02 (30:01):
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, it's for all ages.
If you're a gamer, I think it'sdefinitely it's free.
You can have free games whichyou really can't find.
You know, Fortnite, you have toyou have to pay money for the
console, you gotta pay money forthe software, you gotta pay
money.
It's very expensive.
SPEAKER_04 (30:17):
So my kids, grandkids have been telling me
about that.
So it's like ask them what theywant to do.
Tell them to play Roblox.
Yeah, I will know that I'm surethey probably already know about
it.
SPEAKER_02 (30:26):
So just keep reverting them back there.
SPEAKER_04 (30:28):
Yeah, I know.
That's that's cool though.
That that's good to know that uhanybody watching this, go on,
check it out.
Let me let me know.
Let us know what you think aboutthat, which would be uh like
really cool.
So yeah.
I'm trying to see what elsehere.
Yeah, good old days.
No, no, but yeah, roadblocks.
That's cool.
That's cool.
Uh many, maybe satellite radiois a format.
(30:50):
Um, there with that's the samegentleman that uh asked about uh
do you think AI will have itsown you know format?
Well, maybe satellite radio.
Now that is that's apossibility, but you spelled
satellite wrong.
But that's okay, it doesn'tmatter because I would spell it
the same way as as Miss Ray.
SPEAKER_02 (31:10):
Yes.
SPEAKER_04 (31:12):
Yeah, exactly.
But uh no, I mean that yeah, Imean, you know, we're
terrestrial radio.
I don't think it'll ever happenon that, but satellite I might
because they have so manydifferent uh channels and
opportunities to get differenttypes of music out.
So yeah, that's cool.
SPEAKER_02 (31:27):
It is yeah, and kind of I'm sorry, I'm just thinking
kind of about how that personasked about AI being a genre and
how within this past year therewas an artist artist who was
signed for millions of dollarswith a record label, and the
artist is is AI generated.
(31:49):
Um I hate saying that.
I have to know I hate sayingthat and not having the name.
But you can I know it was likethree million, it was like uh
more RB artist, but it just itmakes me wonder about the
originality.
And are people drawn tooriginality nowadays, or are
they more drawn to just uhbackground noise or something
(32:14):
that blends in?
SPEAKER_04 (32:16):
Coming up, growing up, I wanted the real deal.
I wanted originality, I wantedcreativity.
To me, that's what matters.
I don't know, maybe you'reright.
Maybe nowadays everybody's like,oh, whatever, it sounds good,
I'll listen to it.
Not knowing everything.
SPEAKER_02 (32:35):
Yeah.
You think I don't know.
I think I think that there's apersonal, I always think this.
I always think that there's likean internal, a personal
preference, and then a societalinfluence.
You know what I mean?
There's something that you'repersonally interested in, and
then there's something thatsociety or like your friends,
(32:57):
for example, influences you tolike and how those two worlds
kind of mesh and become blurred.
Um, yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (33:05):
Wow, you got me thinking now.
It's like that hurts.
SPEAKER_02 (33:09):
So yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (33:12):
Uh, she puts up with me every day.
She does, she does.
If if only you knew, and I'msure.
Uh yeah, well, as we go on withthe Skip Happens podcast, you're
gonna find out more and more andmore of what goes on, and uh, we
have a lot of fun.
But basically, it's you knowwhat we do for a living right
now with music and and giving uhhopefully it's a good
entertainment value for you withradio, regardless what radio
(33:35):
station it is.
But if it's terrestrial radio,it's so very important that you
get the most out of it, and uhsome of it's being taken away.
So, and I hope it doesn't all goaway.
Who knows?
Who knows what's gonna happen?
So, yeah, but then we got we gotthe podcast, it's a new way of
doing things.
SPEAKER_02 (33:52):
It is, and I also wonder if radio will kind of die
down and then come back alive.
Um, you know, radio's not theonly um media that's kind of
struggling nowadays.
Local newspapers are also very,very much struggling.
SPEAKER_04 (34:11):
Um well we know that because you know, we have
Syracuse.com.
That is, you know, that's wherewe get our you know, local news
now.
I mean, they're part of thenewspaper, but uh we used to get
well, we used to get the paper.
We're gonna show our age here.
We used to get the paper all thetime, then it went down to just
a few times a week, then it wentdown to just Sunday only.
(34:33):
Now everything's uh, you know,we subscribe online.
Yeah, get it online.
And uh, even though Facebook, Idon't know how relevant it is
right now, but um there's a lotof news that you know comes
through Facebook.
But then again, you get youralerts on your phone, you get
your school closings on yourphone.
You don't that's another thingthat's been uh, you know, with
(34:53):
radio, I can recall spendinghalf the morning show reading
school closings.
You know, I mean, maybe youknow, for you, it maybe you
don't don't remember or youdidn't know, but uh back in the
day, if it was a day like todaywhere we had a lot of snow, it'd
be like, Oh, okay, somebody'sgotta answer the phones, they
gotta take the school closings,they gotta, and we'd have a list
(35:15):
like three, four, five, sixpages long, and uh every few
minutes we would have to read toschool closings, and they always
started with Altmar Parish,Williamstown, because that was a
and then by the time we got toand when I used to listen for
that, I went to West Genesee.
SPEAKER_02 (35:30):
Was there another way it was at the end?
I didn't mean to interrupt.
Is there another way to get thatinformation, like closings or
delays at that time other thanradio?
SPEAKER_04 (35:40):
No, that's why that's why local radio was so
important, right?
And traffic accidents, and wehad uh traffic group reporters,
and we had all that.
You don't see that now.
You get you get everything onyour phone, and and I'm not
complaining about that.
I think that's great.
I think it's great.
You know, we don't the theschool closings.
If one you if you my kids aregone now, but when you get up in
(36:03):
the morning, you see the scrollon the bottom of the screen.
SPEAKER_02 (36:06):
I mean, everybody see the camera loves to follow
Skip.
SPEAKER_04 (36:12):
Yeah, but is it following my hand or is it
following?
Oh, it must be following me.
Let me just I'll I'll continuein a minute.
Hang on.
That's not gonna work.
I know that you know what youlaugh at me, but that actually
tells the camera to stop.
SPEAKER_02 (36:26):
Yes, I know it's just funny.
Stop.
SPEAKER_04 (36:32):
No, exactly.
Stop.
Um, but it's all the handgestures that uh make it happen.
What was I saying?
No, I was talking about um ohthe the scroll on the bottom of
the screen.
You get up.
Is there something with thatword?
Didn't it do this before?
SPEAKER_01 (36:48):
What?
SPEAKER_04 (36:49):
Yeah, see, didn't it do that before?
So, anyway, so I can talk.
Maybe I can scrunch on.
SPEAKER_02 (36:55):
There we go.
There we go.
We just lost Gary for a second.
SPEAKER_04 (37:00):
I know, Gary.
Hang on, hang on.
We're gonna do this.
We're gonna do this.
I'm trying to tell it to stop.
And when it sees my hand, thiscamera's really cool.
If you don't know what we use, Imean I've had several different
cameras here in the pod zone,but uh, these are uh Insta360s,
they're webcams, but they arevery high-end webcams, and as
(37:20):
you can see, it's so smart it'sgonna follow me.
If I was to get up and walk fromthis table, it would follow me
all the way around up the doorand out the up the stairs and
out the studio door.
SPEAKER_02 (37:30):
Isn't that so cool?
SPEAKER_04 (37:32):
Is it awesome?
That's the sign of the times.
Yeah, so there you go.
But uh no, with the schoolclosings, you see it at the
bottom of the screen now.
But uh, if you listen to radio,you really don't, you don't,
unless it's a very small town.
I know here locally, I don'tknow of anybody that's doing
them.
I could be wrong, but uh I don'tknow that's doing them.
So and now everything, uh, whenmy son was going to school, we'd
(37:53):
get the alerts right on ourphone.
So, you know, North Syracusewould be on a one-hour delay,
two hour delay, or they'recanceled for today, you know.
Yeah, so yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (38:02):
I think that it's interesting to kind of look at
that and then also kind of flipsides and think about how
there's like a vinyl revivalgoing on, you know, vinyl are
kind of becoming more popularand people are um going back to
them, listening to them.
I myself am also doing that, youknow.
(38:24):
I I have a lot of vinyls, Ilisten to them on a on a player,
and I think I have friends thatalso are starting to do that
that are buying them because ofthe the art that's on the vinyl.
SPEAKER_04 (38:35):
Yep, and the color of the vinyl.
SPEAKER_02 (38:38):
That too, like the aesthetic of a vinyl is is
really coming back, and I thinkthat that's interesting because
I feel like there was there musthave been a time where you felt
like vinyls weren't gonna comeback where you were like there
was, yeah, there was.
I don't know.
I um we still kind of feel thatway about CDs.
SPEAKER_04 (38:56):
We're like no, we use them as decorations now.
That yeah, hang them from thetree, or you can hang them from
the mirror, the car, or thetruck, you know.
SPEAKER_02 (39:05):
It's kinda uh I don't know.
When I listened to vinyl, I justit's like a whole experience for
me.
The crackle of the the sound.
And I was listening to um theother day I had a um I had
someone let me borrow a JohnBellion Beethoven blues
rendition.
Oh my gosh, which um was a jazz,it was a jazz rendition.
(39:28):
And I listened to it on uhstreaming, and then I listened
to it on vinyl.
And what do you think I likedbetter?
SPEAKER_04 (39:37):
The vinyl.
SPEAKER_02 (39:38):
I loved you're not gonna the vinyl so much better.
I felt like I was experiencinglike Pinocchio, like Disney's
Pinocchio.
I was like, I feel like they hadto have recorded it from like
used a microphone and not likeput the audio in like how you
would normally do it nowadays,which is really do you know what
(39:59):
I mean?
Like I I know.
SPEAKER_04 (40:01):
And you know, the quality from a good pressed
vinyl record.
You can't beat that.
I mean, if you got a good playerand you got a great album, man,
I'll tell you, it's prettyawesome.
Pretty awesome.
Uh, good night, Chuck.
Thanks.
Uh, thanks for having us on, bythe way.
He says it's got to run.
See you guys next time.
(40:21):
Absolutely.
Um, but uh uh what's it,covaction?
SPEAKER_02 (40:27):
Covaction.
Covaction.
We messed that up one.
I know.
SPEAKER_04 (40:30):
I was calling COVID vacation or something.
I don't know.
Because they travel all aroundthe world.
I don't know.
Maybe someday they'll take uswith them.
We should do the podcast.
SPEAKER_02 (40:37):
We should do a collaboration podcast.
SPEAKER_04 (40:40):
We should.
We should.
Absolutely.
SPEAKER_02 (40:41):
Music and food.
SPEAKER_04 (40:45):
That could be dangerous.
That could be dangerous.
I don't know.
But uh, if you have ideas, ofcourse, you can always let us
know as well.
Um, but uh yeah, this is reallycool.
Uh, one thing I do want tomention.
Um, I was supposed to be talkingto Grayland James last night on
the podcast, uh, but he had aconflict.
So we have if you follow SkipHappens and you follow my
(41:06):
interviews with the artist, uh,he's been rescheduled for next
Tuesday night, eight o'clock.
Graylin James, water at awedding fair.
SPEAKER_02 (41:13):
Tune in.
SPEAKER_04 (41:14):
Yeah, it's gonna be a good show.
Yeah, it's always good.
It's always good, but uh yeah,it's always good.
It's interesting talking aboutthe music and all that, so you
know it just and your thoughtsbeing uh what they are, and my
thoughts being what they are.
It's but they all come together.
This is that's what it's about,Miss Ray.
It's what it's about.
(41:35):
Yeah, it is, and uh, you know,we're at that time of the year,
and uh I don't know, is uh yournotes?
Are you gone through your notes?
I um I have to ask becauseshe'll go, you didn't talk about
this.
SPEAKER_02 (41:48):
No, we we really hit on like a lot of everything you
were busy today.
I was I mean there were um whatwould be your anthem?
SPEAKER_04 (41:59):
Oh no, yeah, we talked about this.
SPEAKER_02 (42:02):
Yes, what would be if you had a song to describe
you, what would your your anthembe?
SPEAKER_04 (42:09):
Uh is it uh oh my god, don't forget about me,
don't forget me when I'm gone.
I don't know.
You wouldn't even know.
I'm trying to think.
Oh, glass tiger.
What I'm trying to the the groupwas Glass Tiger.
Don't you forget about me orsomething?
No, no, was it?
I don't know.
(42:30):
Something like that.
SPEAKER_02 (42:31):
Don't you forget about me?
SPEAKER_04 (42:33):
No, it's not that that not that one.
No, this is real rocky.
Um very rock edge, and BrianAdams sings a verse in it as
well.
I'll play it for you tomorrow.
SPEAKER_02 (42:45):
Yeah, I wish I knew.
SPEAKER_04 (42:46):
Yeah, I don't know.
What about you?
SPEAKER_02 (42:48):
I I would have to say Pursuit of Happiness by Kid
Cuddy.
Have you ever heard that song?
SPEAKER_05 (42:54):
I know what you're talking about, yes.
SPEAKER_02 (42:56):
You do?
SPEAKER_05 (42:56):
I yeah, I can't say I listen to it every day, but I
I know I know what you'retalking about.
SPEAKER_02 (43:01):
Yes.
SPEAKER_05 (43:01):
Um, yeah, tell me about the song.
SPEAKER_02 (43:04):
It's just talking about like living for you, doing
what makes you happy, and justkind of wanting to always do
things that that fill your cupand give you gratification, you
know.
SPEAKER_04 (43:17):
You know, I didn't mean to cut you off.
I'm sorry.
You're good.
I just ramble sometimes, but uh,I see Don Goslin is watching Don
uh with Valerie music.
Um, Don's on the edge ofretirement, he's he's going
good.
He's like, Okay, I've had enoughof this.
But I would love to ask somebodylike him.
Don't spend radio, he went outwith records.
Um, Don, if you're stillwatching, what song would
(43:41):
describe you?
I'm just really, really curious.
Tell me, all right.
Tell us if you're still there.
If not, I get it.
Barley hung up on us.
Barley said, I've had enough ofthis crap.
So, but yeah, and don't forgetif you're watching this, make
sure if you have not subscribedto Skip Happens, uh, you go to
Skip Happens on YouTube,subscribe because it it'll help
Miss Ray and myself out a lot.
(44:02):
Um, of course, we're gonna bedoing this uh every week and or
as much as we can.
So, but we do need to take careof this little split in the
screen here.
I know, you know, we gottafigure that out.
We gotta figure that out, but uhjust technical difficulties.
That's all that's why SkipHappens.
SPEAKER_02 (44:18):
That's what it's called.
SPEAKER_04 (44:19):
Skip happens, yeah.
So um we'll see if Don respondsor not.
But um is your let's talk aboutthis real quick.
Uh, your family ready for theholiday.
I know that we're doing this,it's like early December.
So uh all good.
A tree up.
SPEAKER_02 (44:35):
We we still well, we have two trees.
We have like one in our den,which is um, we do that tree for
like separate presents, like forChristmas Day.
Oh, and then, or maybe it's viceversa.
I don't remember what we switchit up every year.
It's um one Christmas tree isfor like our family, which is
before Christmas, and then onetree is for um like Christmas
(44:58):
Day for our immediate family.
SPEAKER_05 (45:00):
Oh, cool.
See, everybody looks at that.
We have are they real, first ofall?
SPEAKER_02 (45:04):
One of them is um real, that's the one that's like
in our living room, and I'm thereason that we we get a real
tree.
I'm a firm, firm believer thatit's not Christmas unless you
have a real tree.
We always went out.
I grew up, dad chopped down thetree.
My sister and I know you drag itout, dragged it, and it it was
(45:28):
just a whole it was a wholeexperience, though it looks a
little different.
You know, we're not choppingdown trees anymore, we're just
going to the Christmas treefarm, picking one that looks
well take down one$75 later.
SPEAKER_04 (45:41):
You've got it home.
SPEAKER_02 (45:42):
Yeah, which is yeah, my parents must love me a lot
because that's how much like afake one costs.
SPEAKER_04 (45:50):
You cannot uh so the smell of a real tree, you cannot
beat that.
Yeah, you know, but nowadaysthey have the little scents, the
things you plug in the wall andyou like a pine thing.
A pine thing.
I know we have fake.
We have one, two, three, four.
And uh four trees.
Yeah, we have a pencil tree inthe in the family room.
(46:10):
You may have seen it on your waydown to the studio.
Um, but that tree has theornaments on that tree, are all
like family ornaments, if youknow what I mean.
They're from Zach ornaments.
My dad used to, my dad used tolove the paint ornament.
I don't know what it was.
He he loved to do little craftythings with the ornaments.
We have a lot of those on thetree.
My mom, uh, family, just familyoriented for my daughters as
(46:34):
they went through school.
Now they're you know, they're ontheir own.
But uh tree is strict, yeah.
That the ornaments on that treeis strictly family.
On the big tree up in the livingroom, it's uh, you know, all the
formal ornaments, you know, theballs.
Did it again?
Did you see that?
SPEAKER_02 (46:52):
I did, I did, but I was also thinking about how
every time I come in the house,the tree upstairs looks like a
Christmas story Christmas tree.
SPEAKER_04 (47:02):
Because it's fake.
SPEAKER_02 (47:04):
No, because it's a little too big, it's got what do
you mean too big?
Are you saying my tree is toobig?
You know, all right.
SPEAKER_04 (47:13):
We can't put a star on it.
SPEAKER_02 (47:16):
I know, um, yeah, this ray, and it's but it's it's
fine.
I was telling, I was talkingwith your wife earlier about how
like it's not even that big of adeal because it's so big and
full, and you guys have thelittle um like strands on it,
and it's so full with ornamentsthat it doesn't even matter.
SPEAKER_04 (47:35):
She she decorates that, she doesn't allow me to
touch it.
The only thing I can help herwith is with the uh the little,
I don't know what she pullsaround the beads that see.
Oh, it's following my hand.
I gotta put my hand away.
Um, yeah, so no, I'm not allowedto touch it.
It's her deal.
So, anyways, okay, just thoughtI'd ask.
That's cool.
All right, well, we're good.
We're good, you know.
(47:56):
It's been great.
How about you?
SPEAKER_02 (47:57):
Are you getting ready for Christmas?
SPEAKER_04 (48:00):
Besides the Christmas trees, you see me in
the studio every day on Amazon.
SPEAKER_02 (48:04):
I'm just saying, and I almost got all my Christmas
shopping done.
No, almost everybody in my yeah,see, I did pretty good this
year.
Normally, I I usually do one bighaul and I regret it later.
Yeah, so this year I really waslike, I want to be better, I
want to space it out a littlebit more, and that is the way to
(48:26):
do it.
SPEAKER_04 (48:26):
That's a good thought.
Like that's the way to do it.
I thought in the middle ofsummer, I'm saying, you know
what?
I'm just gonna start gettingthings hiding, you know, hide
the presents, put them away.
What's the date?
December, you know, earlyDecember, and here we are.
Skip has one gift.
SPEAKER_02 (48:42):
Yeah, I was just gonna say, how many gifts do you
have?
Two?
SPEAKER_04 (48:45):
Like it's the it's I did the same thing.
It's the Amazon box that showedup at the radio station.
Because that's that's what I do.
It's like it's oh yeah, that'sit.
Anyway, so that's our life.
That's that's the way it is.
And uh, Miss Ray and uh ofcourse myself, Skip Clark, and
uh, this is what we call skiphappens, just everyday
discussion.
(49:05):
Uh, if you got something you'dlike to hear us uh talk about,
just you know, get outlined, letus know.
SPEAKER_05 (49:11):
That's all we'll talk about it, talk about
everything, and uh yeah.
So what do you think?
SPEAKER_02 (49:17):
Yeah, I got I got something I'd like to talk
about.
So kind of talking about I feellike the theme's been like real
people this uh episode, andexcept for Roblox.
Except for Roblox.
SPEAKER_05 (49:29):
Okay, okay.
SPEAKER_02 (49:30):
But I kind of want to touch on how artists create
these parasocial relationships.
Do you know what I mean by that?
So what I mean is um with theirfans.
So basically, like artists comeout with this music and fans
interpret them and think thatthey know these artists, and
(49:50):
then they form this relationshipwhere they they like understand
the artist based on their music.
But do you think that the musicdefines the artist?
SPEAKER_04 (50:02):
Not entirely, but I think for country music, the
music that they put out, and ifthey have a hand in writing it,
I think it reflects a lot ofwhat they go through in their
personal life.
SPEAKER_02 (50:12):
And what about the fans?
Like kind of looking at thefans, do you think like it's I
don't want to use the wordhealthy, but like I don't know.
Do you think that we should becreating these relationships
where we become reallyinfluenced by musical artists in
(50:33):
that way?
SPEAKER_04 (50:35):
Music is a universal language.
I mean, there there isabsolutely so much that I hear a
song and I connect with theartist by thinking, wow, that
song's about me.
Wow, how did he know?
But you know what?
SPEAKER_02 (50:55):
I've had that moment where I thought that's a good
thing.
SPEAKER_04 (50:57):
We're all human, and it's like they they go through
experiences just like we gothrough experiences, uh, you
know, relationships anddifferent things that happen in
our lives, and that's that'swith country music, we call it
the soundtrack to your life.
It is really when you thinkabout it, and that's how when
you hear a song, and sometimesthat's how you get connected to
(51:19):
an artist.
Um I know with Tyler, uh afriend of mine, he talked to um
Kelsey um Hart.
No, Kelsey um wait a minute, whowas it?
Who do we have here?
SPEAKER_02 (51:33):
Kelsey Hart.
SPEAKER_04 (51:34):
Okay, I am right.
Kelsey Hart.
And uh Kelsey gave him somegreat advice, and it this came
through his music too.
And uh Tyler will always he'sconnected to him because of
that.
He's a fan because of his music.
He connected through a song, anduh it's pretty cool.
He was going through a roughthing.
SPEAKER_02 (51:53):
That's like the medium of connection.
SPEAKER_04 (51:55):
I think it is, I think it is.
Yeah, yeah, I think so.
That makes sense.
SPEAKER_02 (51:59):
That does make sense.
SPEAKER_04 (52:00):
So I think there's that connection there with the
with the music and and personallife.
SPEAKER_02 (52:04):
I mean, you know, and what do you go ahead?
When we say music, I think thatthere's a lot that goes into the
word music.
You know, there's the theinstrumental, there's the words,
there's an emotion, like a anoverlying emotion.
Like we know that faster-pacedmusic is probably gonna
(52:25):
insinuate something like happyor getting you pumped up, but if
something's slower, it's it's tomellow you out.
Um I guess my question is iswhat do you think that there's a
certain one of those thatdefines music, or do you think
all of them combined makesmusic?
SPEAKER_04 (52:43):
I think all of them combined makes music.
Okay, it all depends.
I think it's it's all over.
I mean, you're right.
There's uh there's faster music,there's harder music, and it
depends on what you know whatyour mood is and what you want
and what you've been through.
And uh, and then there's uh, youknow, the instrumentals.
There's wow, there's somereally, you know, I love a steel
(53:04):
guitar, and that just kind ofputs me in a like a really like
I say this, I don't want tosound cheesy, but like a
romantic mood.
It's like this is so cool.
SPEAKER_02 (53:15):
Um I I get it.
I when I listen to a bassguitar, I feel indestructible.
I'm like, yeah, like yeah, likeI'm like, I don't know why that
or um a saxophone or a trumpet,like yeah, a sax one of those
sexy, yeah.
Like they they have these kindof exactly, yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (53:36):
They create certain feelings and have certain like I
hear I hear a trumpet in a Ithink of uh you know, um I just
think like like groups likeChicago and Earth Wind and Fire,
and that where they had a lot ofbig brass section, and it really
brought the sound of the musicout, and it wasn't you know, a
lot of it was instrumental, itwas just so cool, so cool.
So, yeah, absolutely.
(53:58):
Yeah, good questions there.
I know, I know.
Look at you digging into allthat, but uh yeah, that's what
we do here.
So it's skip happens, and um,you know, don't forget next
week, uh, it's the ninth, anduh, I'll have Grayland James on,
Nashville Artist, Water at aWedding.
Go listen to the music.
It's been out, Water at aWedding's been out for a little
(54:20):
bit.
Um, but yeah, and we also hadthem in town.
We brought him in to uh for ourlisteners with the wolf, and uh,
I think we're the only countrystation that actually brings the
artist in for you, so it doesn'tcost you anything to go.
Just keep that in the back ofyour mind.
If you're from central New Yorkand you listen to country, if
you're in another part of thecountry, I don't know.
Tell you, you can listen online,but you're gonna have to fly in.
SPEAKER_02 (54:41):
Come visit, come visit, come visit.
You might not want to right now.
We're covered in snow, but butthat's what happens.
Maybe more so you, becauseyou're in the in uh what they
call it, snowbell, which isactually it's quite flipped
right now, which is sointeresting with Lake Effect and
you didn't have this in uh umno, it's actually calmer in in
(55:04):
there at home.
SPEAKER_04 (55:06):
Well, we were worried about you because we
talked about the podcast today,whether or not you make the trip
in, but obviously everything wasgood.
And when I came home from theradio station, everything was
was good.
SPEAKER_02 (55:15):
Roads were worse more towards your house, which
is interesting because it shouldbe worse at my house.
SPEAKER_04 (55:21):
And it probably will be knock on wood, knock on the
table.
There you go.
All right, everybody, I want tosay thank you for watching.
Uh, thank you for listening.
Um, you know, let us know whatwe can do better, do less of uh
it's skip happens.
We we talk about anything.
Uh, we got some good stuffcoming down in the near future,
and don't forget, um, I usuallyuh try to get the artists down
(55:42):
with us as well.
And uh I know I do a lot ofthose interviews, and maybe once
in a while Miss Ray will be inon those, or um, you know, maybe
my buddy Tyler.
I don't know.
But uh yeah, we're lookingforward to that.
But uh, thank you for watching.
You you got anything else youwant to add?
SPEAKER_02 (55:57):
Um, I I don't know.
Hi, mom.
Hi dad.
Yeah, hey everyone.
Um, no, I think we touched oneverything.
I think this was an awesomeepisode.
I think we touched on touched onsome really great stuff.
SPEAKER_04 (56:11):
I love it.
I love it.
Absolutely.
Thanks for watching.
SPEAKER_01 (56:14):
Thanks for watching.
SPEAKER_04 (56:15):
Yes, Miss Ray.
Yeah, I can't point over there.
There she is, even though she'slike three feet from me, but my
arm disappears.
Hey, can I make my arm likethere it is?
SPEAKER_02 (56:24):
Oh my gosh.
unknown (56:27):
What?
SPEAKER_05 (56:28):
See?
Come on, come on, there it is.
SPEAKER_02 (56:32):
I wish my arm was still in there.
SPEAKER_04 (56:34):
Yeah, there it is.
All right.
Well, thanks for watching,everybody.
Have a great night, and uh,we'll be back with you next
week.
Uh, watch, stream anytime.
Tell your friends about it,share it, do whatever you gotta
do, subscribe to youtube.comslash at skip happens podcast.
Have a great night, everybody.
Bye.
SPEAKER_01 (56:51):
See you.
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