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Speaker (00:01):
Here we go.
I got the beat.
Hello, are you guys?
Welcome to another edition ofthis.
And uh, of course, my name isKip Clark sitting next to me on
the other camera.
You got Miss Ray, everybody.
Here we are.
It's uh another week.
This is something we try to doevery week.
No, this is something new.
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Ms.
Ray came on board a couple ofweeks ago.
And normally when you see mecome on, for example, last
night, I talked to uh a countryartist, huge, big time Graylon
James last night.
If you haven't seen it, uh,check it out.
He's a fantastic songwriter.
I know that's stuff the only isgetting there.
He's a fantastic songwriter,and uh, he's had a couple of big
hits on the radio.
But uh, on nights like this, ifit's happening, we're talking
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about it.
And we got some great stuff.
Uh, as you know, uh, there's alittle bit of age difference
here, which makes it even betterbecause there's things that
she'll talk about, and I'll go,I have no idea what the hell
she's talking about.
And then there's things I'llmention, and she'll look at me
and go, What?
For example, let me give you anexample, all right, uh, before
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we get into everything.
So today, today, Miss Ray wasworking at her desk and and I
walked around the corner goingto get one of my 15 cups.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
This is a true story before you continue.
I want everybody to know thisis a true story.
Speaker (01:19):
All right.
So I I walk past, hey, hey,Regan, how are you?
You know, and all that.
And I go to get one of my 15cups of coffee.
And uh then I come back and Isaid, you know, um, you know,
that they're not making thepenny anymore.
The penny is pretty much athing of the past, even though
they're still, you know, incirculation.
But uh then I said, uh, well,you know, um I was reading also
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today that uh checks are goingaway.
Checks.
And Miss Ray's comment was thecereal checks, the cereal is
going away.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
I mean, I snapped my neck.
I was like, the cereal, likelike the cereal is being taken
away.
And he's like, No, Reagan, likeno, no, like the check, a
check, and you're going, whatare you talking about?
Speaker (02:07):
Yeah, I said, checks, we write out checks to pay
bills, and uh yeah, so that's atrue story.
It really happened.
Hilarious, you know, and I getin that argument with my wife
all the time about I'm like, youknow, you're not gonna be
writing checks pretty soon.
Everything should, you know,and I haven't written a check in
probably 10 years, to be honestwith you.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Never written a check.
I received checks, neverwritten a check.
I don't even have a checkbook.
Speaker (02:32):
And what do you do when you receive a check?
Um do you do the audit?
Speaker 1 (02:37):
I was actually is this the correct way to do it?
I go to the bank and I likefill out the little paper.
I feel like because I don'tknow.
I don't trust, I'm one of thosepeople that doesn't trust the
the system.
So I'm like, it takes threedays for that to get processed.
I'm just gonna take 10 minutesat max, go to the bank, deposit
my check, take care of business.
Speaker (02:57):
You know now I I don't I don't know what financial
institution you use, and nobodyneeds to know that.
But I know with mine, I go tothe app, I sign the back of the
check, put my account number, goto the app, deposit check, take
a picture of it, both the frontand back, put the amount in,
it's gone.
And at midnight, it's on myaccount.
It gets approved that quick.
That's so it's pretty cool.
Yeah, then I might have to tryit because we Reagan, this is
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completely the opposite of Ms.
of what we were just talkingabout.
Um, because using an app shouldbe what, yeah, exactly.
Yeah, but that's okay.
There's nothing wrong withthat, all kidding aside.
So, and that's what we'reabout.
I mean, we love doing that, sobut it's funny stuff.
We have these conversations allthe time, and we decide to come
on there and just talk aboutthings like that.
So, and because hopefully youcan relate as well if you're
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watching this, because yeah.
So do you have any pennies?
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Do I have any pennies?
Well, um, I don't at themoment, actually, because if you
go to Price Chopper, you can ifyou like, I don't know if you
can still do that.
Well, when you could, yeah, itwas like I gave all my pennies
to to my sister because sheshe's 11.
So I'm like she can have them.
Speaker (04:08):
It's Abby, right?
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Yes, shout out to Abby, by the way.
Abby, yes, um Abeline, yes, um,such a cute name.
I love that name.
Every time I listen to uhchoose in Texas, you're gonna
love this.
Every time I listen to Choosein Texas by Abby, I just like
Abilene, so it's like music tomy ears.
Speaker (04:29):
But she did she take the pennies to price chopper,
she sure did.
And can I ask?
I'm I mean, how much did sheget in the way?
Because they doubledeverything.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
I don't know how much she got.
I don't even, I don't know.
But that was a couple of weeksago, but I know she collected,
she went around the house.
Smart girl, yes, very smart.
Speaker (04:48):
Because they did, you know, I love that was a great
marketing thing for a marketinguh thing that Price Chopper did
was you know, bring your penniesin and we'll double it.
If you brought in a hundred,uh, let's say a hundred dollars
worth of pennies, which would bea whole mess of pennies, um,
you'd get a $200 gift card.
You know what I mean?
So that was pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
That's really cool.
Speaker (05:08):
That is really cool.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Price chopper knew what they were doing with that.
Yeah, yes.
Speaker (05:12):
Yeah, I love that.
I love that.
So, uh, anyways, um, let me askyou, are you still eating
Thanksgiving leftovers?
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Um no, because you know it's 13 days.
Speaker (05:21):
Well, we're we're recording this on a Wednesday,
so it's 13 days afterThanksgiving.
And if you're still eatingthose leftovers, you're on your
deathbed.
You'll you'll get sick.
Don't do it.
Don't do it.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Just hold out.
We're two weeks from Christmas.
Speaker (05:35):
We we got this, or you'll get some really bad gas.
Yes, and you don't want to dothat, so that's not good.
But uh, I was reading aboutthat today.
It says uh you're puttingyourself at risk for serious
injury or even death or worse.
Can you believe that?
Well, I don't know.
It's who's gonna eat leftoversthat that old, anyways.
Just thinking about that.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
How long do you do you let leftovers sit before
you're like, nope?
Speaker (06:01):
They sit too long.
Because you know what itdepends.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
It depends on the food.
Speaker (06:06):
That's I don't know what happens in your household.
I don't know if your mom anddad do this or or what, but uh
you know, you finish dinner andyou got leftovers.
Like, you know what?
I'm gonna save, I'm gonna savethis pizza for later.
All right, you put it in thefridge, you wrap it up, put it
in the fridge.
Week later, it's still in thefridge.
Week and a half later, it'sstill there for the most part.
I mean, there's times, I mean,depending on what I did the
night before, you go and get thecold pizza, but but still, you
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know, it does sit there.
Uh, it's like, all right, no,we're not gonna eat it.
It gets thrown out.
So yeah, it's crazy, crazystuff.
So, what else is going on?
I know we have a lot ofconversation about music.
Um you have your thing, I havemy thing.
I mean, which is pretty cool.
And you're starting to fallinto the country groove a little
bit.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
I am good for you.
I am country's kind of growingon me.
I think it might be because youknow, I'm falling in love with
the artists.
Yeah, I'm falling in love withthe people that are making the
music, the the work that'sgetting put into it.
And then it's it's like, how doyou not love the art?
Because that's whether despitewhat music you like, music is
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art, and you have to kind ofappreciate what everybody's
putting together to create thatart.
Speaker (07:16):
So that's true.
That's true.
So you're looking at it from adifferent perspective than so
many other people.
Yeah, people just listen to iton the wolf and they they're
like, wow, that's a great tune.
But you look at it from anartist standpoint, I guess, from
what what they're thinking andwhat they're doing and how
creative they're being.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Yes, yes.
And you mentioned LL Lang.
Right.
And I think it's very normaland surface level to enjoy music
for what it what it soundslike.
You know what I mean?
Like the vibe it makes youfeel.
Um, but sometimes I I justreally like to deep dive into
music and understand like themarketing strategies that go
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into the song, like the thepromoting the song, right, what
the artist is really talkingabout and the relevance to that
artist in their life um andtheir brand, like their image as
a whole.
Speaker (08:05):
You know what you're saying though, and anybody
that's watching this, if you geta chance, go back and watch the
podcast that I recorded lastnight with Grayland, Grayland
James, who's a songwriter, andyou're talking about you know
what goes into a song, and he'she's telling store a story.
When I asked him that, he goes,I go, what's it like to be a
uh, you know, a songwriter?
He goes, We tell stories, butthere's stories that I can
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relate to or you can relate to,and he puts it all together and
puts it to music, and it's justamazing.
You know, water at a wedding,for example, his song.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
I was just thinking that.
Speaker (08:39):
I was hoping you would mention that song, and he talked
about it last night.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Can you talk about what that for listener uh people
watching that might not knowwhat that song um entails?
I think that what you describedto me earlier was fun, like
yeah.
Speaker (08:51):
He um, you know, he the way he put it last night, you
have to go back and and watchthe podcast, but uh and listen
to what he had to say.
But it's real life for him.
Single guy, he's songwriting,he's um he worked very hard to
get where he's at now.
Um, but the thing is, and hesaid it last night that he works
too hard at being GraylandJames, being a songwriter who
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didn't have enough time for hislife, and therefore his personal
life, so to speak, you know,dating and stuff like that
wasn't working out too well.
And he said he lost a lot ofcompanionship because of the
relationships because of that,right?
So, anyways, he got invited tothis wedding, and it was one of
his ex-girlfriends, and uh hesaid he's standing there and
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he's watching her and he knowswould you go?
Speaker 1 (09:38):
No, yeah, I don't think I would either.
I'd be like, Oh no, hold it,hold it, let me tell you what's
going on.
Speaker (09:44):
Okay, sorry, no, no, no, but how true, how true?
But no, you know, maybe well,you never know.
You never know on therelationship side of things.
But um, he goes to the wedding,notice that uh she's drinking
water.
If you listen to the song,there's no bubbles in the water,
which means there's nothingcarbonated, no mixed alcohol or
anything like that.
Um, and he it's just the wayshe was acting, and uh she acted
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like she really didn't want tobe there.
That's in the song, and thenpossibility of her being
pregnant, uh and her being froma small town.
Uh what is everybody gonnathink because of that?
Um, that's what the song is isabout.
It's a true story, it's a truestory.
And he said that he was um notthat I don't want I want you to
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watch the podcast, it's reallygood, but he said that um the
record label that that song'sbeen out, it's been available
for quite a while.
It was on social media longbefore Wait Till You Have Kids,
which was his second hit, um, orhis first first hit, I'm sorry,
and then now Water at aWedding, second hit.
But um the label he wanted toput that one out first, Water at
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a Wedding.
The label said, No, we want youto put uh Wait Till You Have
Kids.
So they made the decision, andthat's what he did.
And uh now that went throughthe, you know, now they're off
of that and they're on withwater at a wedding.
So, which I think should havebeen the first thing.
But here again, it's somebodyelse telling him what to do, and
that gets to something like wewere gonna talk about.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Yeah.
Speaker (11:16):
Um, being an artist, being your creativity, and you
know what you want to do.
I mean, how do you handlesomebody else telling you as an
independent artist?
You pretty much pretty much runyour own show, but from a
labels perspective, one of themajor labels, they're gonna look
at it like, well, we want youto do it this way.
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You know, it's like working fora big corporation, you have to
certain guidelines, certainrules, I guess, and you do what
you're told.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Right.
unknown (11:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
That makes me wonder then why some artists do sign
with record labels if they knowthat they're gonna be limited in
their art.
Um do you know what I mean?
I think that that's interestingbecause there's a lot of
artists that do go throughrecord labels.
There is, and there is I knowfrom firsthand experience
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through our work that we we seethe direct support that comes
from record labels for theseartists.
You know what I mean?
They're there to make sure thatum these artists feel um good.
Yeah, I mean, they haveeverything that they need,
they're facilitating all ofthese encounters and
interactions, making sure thattheir artist is safe.
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Um, and I'm sure that they'realso helping influence branding
a little bit as well.
Speaker (12:31):
Yeah, the the big labels, they have their own
marketing, they got their own uhAR people that are gonna go out
and represent the artist.
They put the artist through um,you know, like how to handle an
interview and how you know yougot to change your looks.
I mean, I um I interviewed NateSmith a while ago on the
podcast before he was anybody,and he looks completely
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different now.
His hair is different,everything about him is
different, and that's becausewhen he signed with a label, of
course, you know, they kind ofchange you a little bit.
And the same thing with CarrieUnderwood.
Now, going back when CarrieUnderwood was on American Idol,
when she won American Idol, um,I went to New York for the CMAs
that year.
We broadcast live at the radiostation I was at, and Carrie
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Underwood happened to be hangingout with her mom.
And here's this young woman,the ponytails, and just you
know, went over and said helloand very like shy and and all
that.
She had just won Idol.
But now look at her.
It's like, holy crap.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
You know, I mean, I know it's been a lot of years,
but uh, I mean, she there was alot of um marketing and bringing
that went into her, but yeah,exactly musically, but she also
she did acting as well, which Ithink is super interesting when
you take into consideration theentertainment industry.
There are a lot of artists thatactually broaden their horizons
in other arts like acting.
Speaker (13:50):
Look at Reba.
There you go.
Yeah, I mean, you know, foryears being uh just an awesome
country singer artist.
Um now she, you know, her TVshows and all that, it's just
phenomenal, you know.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
And I'll it all goes into her brand as an artist,
yeah.
Speaker (14:08):
And Reba's the reason I got in the country, so I even
had a dog named Reba.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
So cool.
Speaker (14:15):
And I told her that once, and then I felt about this
big, and I said, Don't botheropening the door, I'll go under
it when I leave.
Yeah, God honest truth.
It was at the state fair.
It's like I was so scared.
I was so scared, I was sostarstruck, but uh yeah, but
that's true though.
A lot of these artists, youknow, they're going into acting
as well.
So you know, and they're cool,they're real, they're real
people.
Yeah, I like that.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Kind of going back on the Grayland James and
releasing music that stays verytrue to his heart.
Um I think it's interesting.
I wonder if there's everartists that regret music that
they release.
I recently read an article, notthat this artist regretted her
her music, but um KelseyBallerini kind of touched on
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that she felt like her latlatest album um was a little bit
harsh towards her ex.
Like some of the way that sheexpressed her music or her
feelings um was a little harsh.
And I thought that that wasreally interesting.
Speaker (15:10):
This was her saying this, yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
This was um, yeah, interesting.
This was um an article that Iread.
Um, so I I think it'sinteresting to kind of take into
consideration in the grandscheme of things with artists.
Like, does this happen morecommonly than than we know?
Or has there have you ever hadan interview where you've had an
artist that be like, you know,I I came out with this song, and
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years later I don't reallyrelate to that, or you know, I
don't connect with that.
Speaker (15:40):
Of all the artists that I've had a chance to sit down
and have a conversation with, II don't recall one person, you
know, saying anything like that.
I'll ask the question, youknow, is there a song out there
that you wish you had sung?
That's a good question, or youhad written, and I get great
answers with that, but I'venever heard the what you're
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saying.
But that's interesting, yeah.
Because Kelsey, you know,Kelsey, um, she's also been
through a lot in her life.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Yes.
Speaker (16:08):
So um, you know, a couple of rough relationships
and um and all that, but um,yeah, I I didn't hear that, but
wow, yeah, yeah.
That's interesting.
I have to look that up.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Yeah, and then she's she's just one artist in the in
the whole grand, you know what Imean?
In the whole big picture, yeah,the grand scheme of things.
So it makes me wonder if thisis something that we see more
often, especially maybe now,yeah.
When yes, right.
And when you also take intoconsideration what you mentioned
earlier with artists kind ofneeding like Grayland James
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pushing out a song, um, adifferent song than he
originally wanted to.
Um I just I think that that'sinteresting.
Speaker (16:51):
That's very interesting.
I now you got me really likethe gears are turning, and I'm
thinking, but uh, and it it kindof gives me some prep for my
next podcast with anotherartist, which I'll put that
online here in a little bit.
But uh yeah, that's prettygood.
Wow.
Yeah, that's very interesting.
It's just amazing.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Just some food for thought.
Yeah, just some food forthought.
Speaker (17:13):
Uh exactly.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Um, and then on the aside from that, we um talked
about like coaching and PRingand stuff along those lines.
Um, was there have you everdone like a two interviews of
the same artist and you can likedistinctly tell that there was
PR coaching?
You don't have to say theartist, but like you like know
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that this artist went from thefirst interview to the second
interview, like they havechanged the way that they say
things.
Speaker (17:45):
Yes, you can't I have I have, and if you go back and
look at some of the earlierpodcasts that I've done, I've
been doing this quite a fewyears.
Skip happens, but uh, if you goback and look at some of the
artists early on, uh in thebeginning, the very beginning, I
had a lot of really newindependent artists, and you
could tell um that they weren'tprepared.
You you know, it was like, allright, because if I, as somebody
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that's interviewing an artist,if I need to reach in and pull
something out, then you know,it's pretty obvious when I'm
doing that.
That means they're not givingme the information that they
should be giving me.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Right.
Speaker (18:23):
You know, that they're not giving me uh, I ask a
question and then there's apause, and then I I have to ask
it in a different way, maybe toget a different type of answer.
But uh that um I'm sureresponse time's a factor too.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
In the first interview, it took them about
three to five seconds torespond.
While the second time you'relike, oh my, you can come up
with a response one to threeseconds.
Speaker (18:45):
That's and that's part of you know, whether you're
going with an independentpromotion uh team firm or you're
with the major labels, theyhave that department.
You go through um where you sitdown and you talk about PR and
all that.
So this is how you're gonnahandle your interviews, um, so
on and so forth.
So yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
So some artists go through, so they they so-called
are independent, right?
Or they're kind of on theirown, and then they go through
this coaching process with arecord label.
What is um have you ever heardof an industry plant?
Have you ever heard of industryplant?
Speaker (19:21):
No.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
You have you ever heard of that phrase?
Speaker (19:24):
Uh no, it could be a one of my okay.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
So I um I've heard of an industry plant, and I kind
of did some research and thisthere's nothing that's confirmed
about this.
I want to make that disclaimerreal quick before we continue,
but it's basically these artiststhat um are seen to have these
this major label backing.
You know what I mean?
They're having an extreme labelsupport to push them to be more
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famous quicker versus otherartists, and they're kind of
thrown into the industryrandomly.
I know from um Ice Spice was.
An artist that was um possiblyseen as a as an industry plant.
Get it.
I think now maybe shabuzy couldbe seen as an industry plant.
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That's I saw that on the theseare uh ice fate, these are
things that I've seen on theinternet that they people were
saying um ice spice was kind ofone that I I came up with.
Again, these are not confirmed.
No, no, no.
I get what you're saying there.
Artists that kind of came outof left field, they became very
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popular very, very quickly.
They knew what they were doingwhen it came down to branding
and promotions, and it just Idon't they should they kind of
sweep you off your feet.
Speaker (20:46):
I'm sure there's some there, but uh, I think a lot of
the artists, I know from my sideof things, doing the
countryside, a lot of that uh,you know, social media really
makes them big really quick.
Uh, you may not have heard ofthem, but yet look at the uh the
streams they have, and the nowall of a sudden they got all
these followers, and now all ofa sudden they're on a big tour,
and uh that's you know thesocial media side of things.
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But you're talking about anindustry plant.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
I'm talking, yes, like the the record labels are
strategically picking artistsright.
Hang on because you're in forthe ride.
Speaker (21:20):
Yes, yeah, but uh geez, I don't know.
I don't even know what to sayto that.
I I don't know, to be honestwith you.
You're giving me the eye.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
I'm just I just interesting.
I think uh I like the way youthink about it, yeah.
Um, and how these artists getto be who they are, and how how
some artists make it and otherartists don't.
Um and like you mentioned withum digital technology at our
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fingertips.
Now that's scary.
It it is at it is scary.
Speaker (21:56):
Yeah, we were messing around with it.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
The accessibility to to reach audiences at your
fingertips.
Like artists can connect withfans like never before.
Speaker (22:05):
Um, yeah, but is it the real artist?
That is it, are they beinghonest?
Are they uh, you know, you andI both know we just had this uh
somewhat of a conversation aboutthis at the uh radio station
here recently about uh peoplegoing online at what is it,
Suno?
Yes, and uh you put yourwhatever you want the lyrics to
be, and uh tell whether you wanta country hip hop or whatever,
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and uh it so last week wementioned the um AI artist that
got signed.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
I did some research because I wanted to make sure
that we were correct.
And the artist's name is Ibelieve it's Zanaya, so it's
x-a-n-i-a monet.
Okay, and she signed withHallwood for a little over three
million dollars.
And this um Zanaya Monet is aAI artist that is created
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through another woman, and shedid an interview with CBS that I
watched, and she showed how sheuses programs like Suno, which
is music AI, and we checked thatout.
Um, where you basically go intothe program, you type in the
style of music that you want.
For example, we were um wewe've been brainstorming jingles
(23:22):
or ways to like come up with anintro for our podcast.
So we're like, what can we whatcan we possibly come up with
off rip in this AI?
And funny enough, we just typedin like a few words, give me a
country styled jingle withhosts, Ray and Skip, and it came
up with a whole bunch ofdifferent options that all kind
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of it was a whole song, yeah.
Speaker (23:44):
Yes, it was a three and a half minute song, yes, and
you know, but then I sat backand I was thinking about it, I
go that could be kind of cool.
But then, but then Miss Raygoes, hold the phone, hold the
phone, skip, and 100% correct inthis.
Why would we even do that whenwho I am and what I do for a
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living promote country artist?
And if anybody's gonna do anopening for the Skip Happens
podcast for you and I, um, it'sgonna be a real artist.
We're not gonna do that.
Why would we even think aboutthat?
Now, the whole idea was kind ofcool.
I mean, when you hear it, butthen again, there's the flip
side that, for example, I'll goback to Graylin.
(24:29):
Here's a guy that works so hardwriting these songs and putting
the music to it, and you know,touching the hearts of so many.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
And writing a song about a real life experience
that a real human had.
Speaker (24:44):
He could write that song, he could take water at a
wedding and put it into Suno,and somebody else would sing it,
and it wow.
I think it's important.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
I agree.
I think it's important for usto acknowledge that this
technology exists out there,that this is a major threat to
artists, a major threat.
100%.
And I think it could even be athreat to, dare I say,
personalities like you and I.
Well, there has been we didn'tlook into that possibility.
Speaker (25:15):
I can tell you could you I could tell you that uh
they had one radio station hadan AI on air jock.
Uh that's all I did.
And and some people didn'tcare, but other people that, you
know, it's this is mylivelihood, this is what I do.
No, no, and we're not that'snot gonna fly.
That's not gonna fly.
So yeah, but it has happenednow.
(25:38):
Uh you know, and I mention AI,do I or do I know not go to you
and say, hey, why didn't you putthat in chat GPT or whatever?
And so I guess what I'm sayingto kind of shift the gears here
a little bit, I'm not totallyagainst AI.
I am not.
I am against it when it comesto taking money out of people's
(26:00):
pockets and not being the realdeal.
And we need to be real radio,real jocks, real artist.
That's what we need to do, andthat's what we will continue to
do with the wolf.
I can tell you that much.
Um, but then on the other hand,when it comes to uh writing a
letter, you just, you know, weall have the brain farts, we all
(26:20):
have that going on.
You want to write a letter, youknow what?
Put your points in there, seewhat it comes up with.
You can still make it your own.
That's where it can help you.
But the other, absolutely not.
It's crazy.
That's my opinion.
I mean, maybe I'm old school,but uh that's I am old school.
But yeah, yeah.
(26:40):
Real, oh yeah, real YouTube.
Yeah, we're real.
Uh, it's my buddy Chuck.
He's on.
So uh, no, we are not everynight.
Uh Ray, Miss Ray and myselfwill do this once a week, Chuck.
Um, but the other deal withskip happens with the artists, I
try to do, I try to do thatonce a week, or whenever there's
an artist available and theyreach out and want to go on.
(27:02):
I'm not gonna say no.
So that's how all that works.
Unless, unless it's on aThursday, like tomorrow night,
we can't do it.
We have a party.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Yes, that's why we're doing it today.
Yeah, yes.
Speaker (27:14):
Her first go ahead, you tell everybody.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
I'm going to my first company party tomorrow.
Yes.
Yes.
I'm so excited.
It's gonna be so much fun.
I wasn't able to make it lastyear, but this year I'm going.
Speaker (27:26):
And who are you bringing?
Speaker 1 (27:28):
I'm gonna bring my mom.
Speaker (27:29):
Uh-oh.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Which is not uh does that make you nervous?
No, no, I'm not nervous.
No, I'm not nervous to have mymom come with me.
I think some people would benervous, but I love my mom a
lot.
I know that's a good thing.
No, I know you do.
I'm saying, and if you didn't,I'd go, what's wrong with you?
Yes, I I love my mom very, verymuch.
Speaker (27:50):
So and your dad.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Yes, and my dad, but poor Frank is sitting out there
going.
Speaker (27:55):
She left me out of this conversation.
What the hell's going on?
Yeah, yes, I know, but no,exactly.
Exactly.
No, the reason I say thatbecause I haven't met your mom
and dad yet.
And I so look forward to sayinghello, and uh, you know, and I
I tease you all day and say, ohboy, this is gonna be it.
We'll never see Reagan again.
Mom and dad are gonna say,You're not going back to that
place.
You know why?
Because we work in anenvironment that is very loose,
(28:17):
so to speak.
You know, we say what we feel,but we do a good job of it.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
I think anybody that works, um we're not corporate,
we're not corporate, is yes,that's what I was trying to get
at.
Is anybody that doesn't work incorporate, um, but still works
in a business like that, andyou're with people that you are
very close with, like the wholebuilding feels like a family in
a way.
Like everybody, I don't know.
Speaker (28:44):
Nope, it's so true.
It's so true.
It's so funny.
I mean, I've been there sinceuh 2007.
I came from Clear Channel, andwhich is now iHeart.
Uh, I did the morning show onthe oldies channel 92.1 years
ago when it was WSCN.
Now WSCN is our sister station,the dinosaur.
And I mean, it's like, don'teven try to figure it out
because it's it's like becauseyou're just gonna get confused,
(29:06):
yeah, totally confused, buttimes have changed, so yeah,
it's not crazy stuff.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Um, I kind of want to touch more on the the digital
aspect of things.
So um I want to talk aboutvideo.
We um often have music dealingwith audio, just audio, but I
think that there's a lot ofvisuals that help aid music and
can help aid artists, um as likeusing concert films, okay, uh
(29:38):
you making film soundtracks.
I think that musicals even aidmusic in a way.
Speaker (29:45):
Yeah, I know I know the thing I Chuck is watching this
and he's big video guy.
So this is interesting, and andhe can chime in if he'd like.
But uh yeah, so you're talkingabout how video kind of goes
together with right, how does itaid the music and all that?
Like you're talking about likea music video, like when we see
(30:06):
the music video, yes.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
And I think that that yes, like video killed the
radio star, like MTV.
Speaker (30:15):
I know you you know that song was long before you.
I'm sorry.
Well, maybe not.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
I I know the song, I actually learned about it.
Speaker (30:24):
That was the first thing they played on MTV.
I know that you do it.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
You learned that in school.
Speaker (30:29):
Cool, which I yes, I remember that day though.
That's the thing.
Yeah, that was amazing.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
I wish we still had MTV.
Now they just playridiculousness, no hate, no hate
to MTV.
No, but it was fun.
I wish I wish that they wouldbring that back.
I wish that there was a forumaside from YouTube where you
could just watch music videos.
I think that that would bereally awesome.
Speaker (30:53):
See, that's MTV in its heyday, was all the videos and
the countdowns and everything.
You saw the artists and the theuh um VJs, not the DJs, but the
video jocks, they were soawesome.
And uh then CMT came along, andthat was great because now
you're seeing all the countryartists, and it was all
back-to-back videos, and you'rehearing uh the new video once it
(31:15):
came out, you know.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Um which I'm sure helped aid and brand those
artists on a whole nother level,on a whole nother level.
Because aside from that,artists were branding themselves
through CDs, through but youdon't see yourself on a CD, so
to speak.
Like when the video's the imageof them is like that's how we
(31:38):
see the artist or create likebrand an image and and likeness.
Speaker (31:42):
But now with the video, when it's attached, when the
music's attached to a video, yousee the artist, you you feel
the excitement of if it's aconcert, you feel that and say,
Wow, this guy puts on a greatshow, or this this is excellent.
So that's where video doesassist in the the way music uh
being put out.
But uh oh yeah, but the uh OGDJs were so cool, he says.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Do you think that music could be just as
successful today without mewithout visuals?
Like well, or do you think thatthat's something crucial in
kind of standing out or gettingyourself to I think it's a big
plus, yeah.
Speaker (32:18):
But when I hear what people are doing, um, you know,
they're listening to Pandora,Spotify, and all that that does
not have the video attached.
You're listening to the music.
Um now you you see a littlebit, if you go to TikTok, you'll
see a little bit of the artistdoing whatever, you know.
But yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
And there's also a little bit of uh collaboration
here, you know.
You have the music industrycreating the music, and then you
have like the film or thetelevision industry that is
well, they gotta work together,right?
Speaker (32:49):
They gotta work, they collaborate.
Yes, you know, Nina Blackwood,uh interesting relationship
Chucky's talking about.
Nina Blackwood.
You remember?
Did you not?
No, I didn't think so.
It's like the checks, allright.
Um, Martha Quinn.
Um, Martha Quinn, if I'm notmistaken, went to SU.
So that was really cool.
(33:10):
And I actually Martha Quinn, Iwas working, uh, she was one of
the VJs back in the day.
Um, I was working at a radiostation, and she actually came
in and hung out for a little bitand we talked.
It was really cool, you know.
It was so cool, so cool.
Most people, Nina Blackwood,she had such a like a real dog
deep voice, and she does shedoes stuff now on Sirius, and it
(33:31):
you know, it'd be like, Yeah,just Nina Blackwell, and uh you
know, it's like you're who butyeah, she was a heavy smoker,
that's why.
So you know that happens.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Yeah, speaking of music and film TV industry.
Did you see the um the mostrecent Netflix?
Oh, the P Diddy P Diddy thing.
Speaker (33:55):
Oh my god, no, but I've I have not seen it.
But uh, I don't know if you'rewatching this, if you have seen
it, but uh uh Miss Ray wastelling me about this.
I have not seen it, it's onNetflix.
I do want to watch it, but itgoes pretty deep, right?
Speaker 1 (34:08):
I mean it does, it does.
Speaker (34:10):
See, I remember P.
Diddy from back in the day, andI thought, wow, this guy's the
coolest thing going.
But uh, you know, then he hadbad boy records, right?
Speaker 1 (34:18):
Yes, yes, it was a bad boy.
He was and watching the um wow,watching the the f the show
series, um, it was reallyinteresting to to see how he
branded.
Speaker (34:31):
You're gonna ruin it for me, aren't you?
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Yeah, how he like branded the branded bad boy, and
then how over time there wasthese, I guess, so-called
conspiracy or like actual eventsthat occurred where he was
doing things that were not good,and then it all comes to a head
now, you know.
And I think seeing thatdocumentary, it really questions
(34:58):
the music industry.
And I hate to say that, but itit does.
It's one of those things wheredid you see the um yeah, HBO
Max?
I I believe it was last year,came out with a show about Dan
Snyder.
Do you know who Dan Snyder is?
Speaker (35:13):
How do I know that?
Speaker 1 (35:14):
So um Dan Snyder was the like head producer of
Nickelodeon.
So he he um he produced showslike iCarly, Victorious, okay,
Sam and Cat.
That's how I know it.
Yes.
Um I believe Zoe 101.
He created a lot offoundational shows on
Nickelodeon, and he was not agood guy.
(35:38):
And that's what that limitedseries talked about.
And it really put things intoperspective, I believe, for all
of us about the the um likechild film industry and like
television industry and how wetreat children in those
settings.
And I think that whether thisP.
Diddy documentary intentionallymeant to do that or or not, it
(36:03):
really puts things intoperspective about the entire
music industry.
Speaker (36:07):
So we need to watch that.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Yes, if you have I've seen it, I am shook.
It is wild.
Well, I also want to put thingsinto perspective that I I like
heard of P.
Diddy.
I didn't really know P P Diddyin his prime so sadly.
Which I did, yes, like I wastoo young to really understand
(36:30):
what what he was doing, and thenI heard really it all came to a
head for me with the Cassietrial, where I was like, oh my
gosh, this this big producer,he's he's done what?
And there was a video, and itwas just it was not good.
And then to watch thatdocumentary, I was like, this
really um, first of all, is veryshocking and horrible, but it
(36:54):
it really puts things intoperspective about whether it
means to or not about theindustry as a whole, very
similarly to that Dan Snyder umshow.
Speaker (37:02):
But I I don't know, it it does put it put it into
perspective the industry as awhole, but it shouldn't because
I don't know, I don't think it'slike that everywhere.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
I completely agree.
Okay, right so but it's gonnagive that impression just
because yeah, or it's gonna makepeople look at things a little
differently.
Um yeah, because there were alot of factors that P.
Diddy was involved in, you knowwhat I mean?
Like you have uh drugs is onething, and then uh sex addiction
(37:37):
is another.
You know what I mean?
Like those are two, in myopinion, separate things,
although they go together.
Speaker (37:41):
Like he has somebody killed.
So that so I don't want tospoil the show.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
No, no, no, because somebody didn't directly say
that P P Diddy killed anybody,but it it does insinuate that he
may have been involved in Tupacand Biggie's yes, Biggie's
small murder.
Speaker (38:02):
Yes, yes, and we were talking about that, or somebody
was talking about that in thehallway the other day at the
radio station.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
Yes, yes, yeah, the radio station, yes.
He was talking about it.
He was like, You guys gottawatch it, it's so amazing.
And I was like, I've alreadywatched it, Sam.
Tell them, tell them, like itis crazy, they need to watch it.
Um, okay, because it's it'svery Netflix, right?
Speaker (38:24):
I just well, I know what I'll be doing this week.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
That 50 Cent got to produce some of it, so you have
this artist that's veryacclaimed, skilled, seasoned, so
so well.
Um share his his insight andhis story.
Speaker (38:44):
I mean, I yeah, so it's very captive, uh, captivating.
Yes, you're not gonna walk awayfrom it.
You're you're you're gonnawatch it.
You have to put it on pause touse the bathroom or to get some
popcorn, then come back.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
Hopefully, you have ads on Netflix because you're
gonna be glued through all four.
Speaker (39:00):
I don't pay the higher amount, I have the lower amount.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
That's your bathroom break time.
Speaker (39:05):
Oh, definitely gonna have to check that out.
So, yeah, I remember you weretalking about it.
Sam was talking about it.
Um, I heard that it and it'slike I hadn't seen it yet.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
So yeah, but I will.
It was it was very interesting.
And it was interesting to seehow he created Bad Boy
Entertainment.
Um, aside from all of the verynegative things of involved with
him.
Like it's very interesting tosee what moves he made to brand
(39:35):
his company.
Speaker (39:36):
Interesting.
Wow.
Where to get 'em.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
Yeah.
Speaker (39:41):
Just saying.
Kind of weird stuff going onthere.
Yes.
Really weird.
Yes.
Ah, yeah.
Right.
I gotta watch that.
Now you gotta be reallyexcited.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
Um I wonder if like history ever repeats with
artists.
Like the Big E and Tupacbattle.
That that was, and they didtalk about that kind of being
predetermined by Diddy, but wesee things um reoccurring.
Like there was, I believe,within the last few years,
(40:11):
Kendrick Lamar and um Drake hadlike a rat battle.
That's right.
And then people createanalogies or compare artists,
um, like Laney Wilson or DollyParton saying that that they're
similar.
What do you have to say aboutthis or your thoughts?
Kind of also taking intoconsideration branding, working
(40:35):
with labels.
Speaker (40:37):
I think I know I can speak on the country side of
things that uh you're talkingabout Laney and you're talking
about Dolly.
Uh it's all going back to thosedays.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
Um like Jesse Murph kind of yes, yes, exactly.
Speaker (40:52):
And um, it's definitely going back, like everything, in
my opinion, goes in a 20-yearcycle.
So let's go 20 years ago.
I mean, Dolly was big, all thatwas happening.
It uh and Laney's kind of doingher own thing in in her
footsteps, so to speak.
Uh Zach Topp is doing uh stufflike Alan Jackson did.
Um that that that's what'shappening.
(41:13):
Yes, it's happening again, andit's coming back, even with a
younger audience such asyourself.
Uh, they're digging it.
It's it's like, and they playthe you know, they'll play stuff
like that at the concerts, anduh it's like everybody gets into
it, you know, and especiallysome of the older stuff.
Even if somebody does a shania,I mean it's all coming back.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
Have you uh do you know Sierra Farrell?
Or Pharrell Farrell?
Speaker (41:39):
Well, I know a Pharrell.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
Is it Sierra Pharrell?
Speaker (41:42):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (41:43):
No, well, she uh she's like a folk singer and she
sings um like renditions ofvery older songs, and okay, I I
see her on TikTok all the time,and I am like obsessed with her
because her voice sounds like soraspy, so interesting.
And I thought originally thatshe was singing original songs,
(42:05):
but like I said, she's she'ssinging these songs that are her
singing older.
Speaker (42:12):
You know who's doing that now?
Who's gonna put it out?
Michael Bublet is dropping analbum with all the old uh
country classics.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
No way, yeah.
Speaker (42:24):
Oh, yeah.
They haven't given me uh anactual release date, uh, but it
is coming.
He's in Nashville recording.
He has um, I know for a facthe's working with Dan Huff.
Dan Huff is one of the biggestcountry producers you'll know,
ever get to know.
Uh, great guy.
He's working on Michael Bublet,is working with him in
Nashville to get this album doneand to get it out, and it's
(42:45):
nothing but old classic country.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
That's so cool.
In the voice of Michael Bublé,in the voice of Michael Bublet.
Speaker (42:54):
Who would have thought though?
Speaker 1 (42:55):
These are people like I would not have thought that
Michael actually would do acountry album.
I well, I know surprised bythat.
Um, he's a he's a you know Ididn't know he was a country fan
like that.
Speaker (43:07):
So I don't know either.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
I'm excited to hear this.
Speaker (43:10):
He's saying that uh he was brought up on country.
They all say that.
I don't know if it's true ornot.
I'll be honest with you.
I don't know if they're justyou know saying that, but uh
almost you know, Beyonce saysshe was brought up on country.
Um, you're talking Neo said uhjust recently, I think we talked
about this last week, that youknow, oh yeah, he loves country.
That's you know, this and that,and uh you know, and you look
(43:31):
at some of these artists, youwould never picture them doing
country, but it's really good.
Shabozy.
Yeah, look at shabbozy.
Yeah, post Malone.
Post Malone, yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:41):
I I think when Post Malone came out, I can't think
of what the album's called, butI can I can see it.
It's got like an orangeundertone.
Congratulations on it.
Speaker (43:50):
Come on, did you go to the post Malone concert?
Speaker 1 (43:53):
I did, I I did the amp.
I did, but I didn't see PostMalone.
I worked that at all.
Speaker (43:59):
Oh, you worked that that's right.
That's right.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
Wow, that was a very hot and popping show.
It was very bad.
Yeah, it was it was it waspacked, and normally when when
it gets packed like that, Iactually try to get out of there
so I don't blame him later.
I don't blame him.
Um yeah, yeah.
Speaker (44:15):
So exactly.
Have you seen uh we're talkingabout artists here a little bit?
Have you seen Jelly Rolllately?
Do you realize he went hit hisweight loss, his journey?
I have seen um at his peak, hewas 550 pounds.
He has lost well over 200 andhe shaved his beard off.
And I saw a video of him onlinewith his wife Bunny.
(44:38):
And uh, first of all, you'd go,how do they ever yeah, you know
what I mean?
So um no, what are youthinking?
Never mind.
Um, no, it is, but uh, itshowed him just he was um with a
bow and arrow shooting at atarget and he got a bullseye.
You'd never know it was jellyroll except for the tats, you
(44:58):
know.
He's got a lot of tattoos onhis face, and you know, he went
through a rough time in hislife, but uh now it's like, are
you kidding me, dude?
It's amazing.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
I I did see that.
That is amazing.
Speaker (45:09):
So if you haven't seen him, look him up online, take a
look and see if you can find apicture and check out his uh
weight loss journey.
It's amazing.
It's amazing.
Speaker 1 (45:17):
A lot of artists, well, a good handful of artists
are are going through some goodweight loss journeys.
Um, Lizzo on the on the flipside of things, um has recently
actually posted a picture inretaliation to a comment that
fans made calling her fat.
Speaker (45:35):
And she I would just tell them it's too bad.
Speaker 1 (45:37):
This is the way that's what she what she did,
she took a picture of herself ina bikini and she posted and
she's like people made a commentabout how like people make
comments about whether I gainweight, whether I lose weight,
whether I put this on my body,whether they do that, whether I
do that.
And she was like, I think it'sjust time for people to stop
(45:58):
making commentary on people'sbodies and weights.
Um but I I think with that compthat in mind, um, sometimes we
see artists taking it a littleextreme, you know, and fans
expressing concern for artists.
Wicked.
Wicked recently came out forand you know, there's a lot of
(46:24):
talk and such along the linesabout those.
Speaker (46:28):
Um I haven't seen it.
Don't laugh at me, but I havenot seen it.
Speaker 1 (46:32):
The four good one.
Did you see the first one?
Speaker (46:34):
I have not.
Speaker 1 (46:35):
Have you ever seen Wicked?
Speaker (46:37):
Have not.
Speaker 1 (46:38):
Okay.
Okay, I haven't seen the play.
I saw the first film.
Well, the play is.
I love Ariana Grande.
You know, I saw her, I was oneof those kids that grew up with
her on Victorious.
Like, which funny enough, mymom.
I remember this.
My mom mentioned when she wason Victorious, she, you know,
(47:01):
Victorious is doing her thing,Jade's doing her thing, Kat uh,
who played Ariana Grande, um,who was played by Ariana Grande.
Um, my mom was like, This girlis gonna be somebody someday.
Speaker (47:13):
Look at her now.
Speaker 1 (47:14):
And look at her now.
Look at her now.
Speaker (47:16):
Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (47:17):
She is a big somebody today.
Speaker (47:19):
I know I said that to somebody the other day.
I said, I've never seen it.
They're like, What are younuts?
You've never seen it.
I said, No, never seen it.
Yeah.
Of course, you know, I mean,I've been, you know, my life is
like crazy.
Speaker 1 (47:30):
So yeah, you're very busy.
Well, I'm starting to slowdown.
Yeah.
Speaker (47:34):
Well, now here I am doing this.
Um, but no, this it's all it'sall good.
It's all good.
I just want to, you know, backoff on the skip clark a little
bit and just start enjoyinglife.
Speaker 1 (47:44):
Yeah.
Speaker (47:44):
You know what I mean?
So, yeah.
Speaking of that, I got theholidays coming up.
Yeah, uh, yeah, yeah, yeah,yeah.
You got a Christmas list.
Speaker 1 (47:52):
Two weeks.
Speaker (47:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:53):
I I still gotta finish my Christmas list up.
Speaker (47:56):
You know, all I want is socks.
All I want, all I want is so ifyou guys want to send me some
socks, I they need, you know,socks are probably the most
important piece of clothing, inmy opinion.
I because if you're not ifyou're not comfortable in your
shoes, and the socks play a bigpart in that, you're gonna have
a miserable day.
(48:16):
It's gonna suck.
All right, it's really gonnasuck.
So, and and I can't wear sockswith holes in them.
Of course, my socks get holesin them, plus we have a a yellow
lab that likes to chew on them.
So we get the holes in thesocks, and I cannot stand it
when my toe sticks through ahole in the sock, and I can feel
(48:36):
it on the inside of my shoe.
Speaker 1 (48:38):
It's a pet peeve.
Speaker (48:39):
I hate it.
I hate it.
Speaker 1 (48:41):
It is the worst, and this sock is so uncomfortable.
Speaker (48:44):
No matter what I do with this one sock that's got a
hole right where my big toe was,no matter what I do, it ends up
back in my drawer attached toits mate.
I could throw it out, it'sgonna come back.
I don't know.
I have a feeling I know.
Let me put it that way.
Is it Rossi?
Is it well?
No, I think I think it's like,you know, the laundry gets done,
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it's like, oh, well, here's asock, throw it in the laundry,
and then nobody looks at it.
Well, you know, what Rossi, ouryellow lab.
I mean, yeah.
Speaker 1 (49:15):
He he is when I came in today.
Speaker (49:17):
Oh, yeah, how was he?
Because I was down here.
Speaker 1 (49:19):
He I was greeted, he was so good.
He came up, he said hi, andthen he ran downstairs and he
took a pillow off the couch andcame upstairs.
And your wife was like, getthat out of your mouth, get that
out of your mouth.
And he ran the other way, andhe ran the other way, of course,
and then he came back and hejust like shook his head with
the pillow in his mouth.
Speaker (49:40):
He wants you to play, that's what it's about.
And you know, that's a lay.
Speaker 1 (49:44):
Now that's a lay I was talking to her.
Speaker (49:46):
Oh, that could have been part of it because you're
like taking his attack's timeaway from mom.
Speaker 1 (49:51):
Yes, exactly.
Speaker (49:53):
Yeah, so anyway, anyways, on my Christmas list, I
mean the best selling is socks,so that's all.
I don't know.
You know what?
I'm gonna get another listtogether.
I will get a list together, metoo, and I'll have it next week.
Yes, so you know, make sure youcome back and see us next week
and uh we'll have our Christmaslist.
Yeah, it's gonna beinteresting.
I really want to know what's onyour list.
So, yeah, you'll have to piecesomething.
I'll tell you what's on mylist.
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You might go, Well, you nuts.
That's not gonna happen.
But really, no, think about it.
I'll bet you your list will beso different than my list
because of my age and your ageand our interests, your
interest, and I mean, we have alot in common, which we're doing
(50:34):
this, and I love it, absolutelylove it that you've come on
board with Skip Happens andwe're having some fun.
This is what you went to schoolfor, and we're gonna make it
work.
Uh, we'll get you on the air atthe radio station and then take
good care of you.
It's gonna be so, so very cool.
It's a great opportunity that alot of people really don't get,
uh, but proud to be able to doit.
But um, my list will be likecompletely opposite of your
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list.
Because what do you get a guythat's my age?
What do you get a guy that youknow?
Think about this.
If you're thinking aboutChristmas, your mom and dad,
what do you get them?
You know, here these arepeople, these are people that
probably struggle with that.
They have everything they want.
Yeah, you know, they have thebeautiful family, a beautiful
(51:17):
home, you know, but and they'vegot their everybody has their
toys, so to speak.
Speaker 1 (51:21):
I got my computers, I've you know, but uh yeah, and
I'll I'll be honest, gift givingis like not my love language.
I'm like not a material.
I just I'm not a verymaterialistic person.
I I really enjoy like the thesmall interactions between do
you know what I mean?
Like spending time with myfamily is the gift for me, yeah.
Speaker (51:43):
You know, and I tell my my girls that my three
daughters, and they'll say, Dad,what do you want?
I I'll I'll tell them whetherit's Angela, Nicole, or Carly or
even Zach, you know, it's likeI just want to hug, and then I
love it.
Yeah, you know, that's that'sall that's you know, being a
dad.
Speaker 1 (52:00):
That's yeah, you know, that's how I'm gonna be
able to do that's the bestthing.
Speaker (52:02):
That's the best thing.
Speaker 1 (52:03):
I relate to that.
I just want to be able to dothat.
Speaker (52:05):
Now my wife will ask what do I want?
And I'll say, Yeah, you know, Ikind of give her a long list.
No, it's just just kidding.
Speaker 1 (52:13):
Well, first I need the snodch.
Speaker (52:16):
That's so cool.
So, anyways, uh, yeah, prettycool stuff.
Uh, great conversation, by theway.
Great conversation.
I love this.
I love this.
So we're having a lot of fun.
Uh, skip happens.
Uh go on YouTube, subscribe,uh, you know, and we're gonna
try to do this.
What we we made a promise toeach other that we're gonna do
this every week.
If you're not consistent, it'snot gonna work.
It's like with anything else inlife.
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If it's not consistent, it'snot gonna work.
unknown (52:40):
I'm right.
Speaker 1 (52:41):
We are gonna make this work.
Speaker (52:42):
We are gonna do this, and I cannot wait to meet your
mom at the party.
Speaker 1 (52:46):
Yes, so next week, stay tuned for how that goes.
Oh, yeah.
So uh because we will do that.
Are you dressing up for this?
I yes, I did buy like a cutelittle outfit.
I just want it.
Well, first of all, I didn'thave anything that was like red
or green that was like nicer.
I didn't, those just aren't mycolors.
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Okay, no, I get it.
So I was like, I need to go getsomething, and I can't I found
this just little top and bottomthat like matches, and I was
like, that's so cute.
Speaker (53:17):
I got my wranglers in a nice button down.
Speaker 1 (53:20):
But is it red or green?
Is it festive?
Speaker (53:23):
Are jeans festive?
Speaker 1 (53:25):
Jeans are your shirt festive?
Speaker (53:28):
My jeans are blue.
Speaker 1 (53:30):
But what color is your shirt?
Because if it's not one ofthose colors, it just it won't
match the vibe.
Speaker (53:37):
Reagan, listen.
Speaker 1 (53:39):
Whatever's in the stand out like a sore thumb.
Speaker (53:42):
No, it won't.
I'll have a nice black buttondown with a nice blazer.
Speaker 1 (53:46):
That's a good question for the audience.
Are you one of those peoplethat that dresses when you like
dresses with the group, goeswith the group, or are you like,
screw that?
I'm gonna wear what I want.
Speaker (53:57):
Wear a holiday tie.
Yes, I have a holiday tie, ithas a cent on it, but you know
what?
This is not that type of party.
This is a party where we're allwell, everybody looks nice and
it's good to get together, butit's not like we're all formal,
it's not like we're all wearing,you know.
Speaker 1 (54:13):
Miss Becky's shown me this dress.
Oh my god, Miss Becky.
Yes, her dress was kind offancy, and I was like, You want
to know what?
I need to step up my game.
I cannot show up that's a womanthing, and that might be a
woman thing, but I kind of gotcompetitive.
I was like, Oh, Becky, you'renot gonna be the only one that's
that's looking adorabletonight.
Like, I want to look good andhave a cute outfit, and I know
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that the other ladies are gonnalook great, so I'm like, I just
want to look good.
I'm gonna be able to do that.
Tia's gonna look great.
Speaker (54:43):
I know Tia's always styling, she's the tallest woman
that I know.
Go ahead, you tell her.
Speaker 1 (54:49):
I was just gonna say today she wore like a blue
flannel with black.
I don't even she her outfitlooks so good, but it literally
all matched, even down to hereyes and like her eyelashes,
like the mascara, like it allthe same blue.
It was so aestheticallypleasing.
I was like, Tia, you you looklike you're from a uh LL Bean
(55:12):
catalog, like girl, like I'm notkidding.
Speaker (55:16):
I walk through the door and it's like, what the hell
are you wearing?
I you know what didn't you lookin the mirror before you left
the house?
No, I'm in the house.
Speaker 1 (55:24):
So still, so still.
Speaker (55:26):
Yeah, no, absolutely.
It's a good bunch.
It's a good bunch, and we'llhave a good time.
It's our you know, radiostation get together.
Speaker 1 (55:32):
So you messing around with Tia just goes to show
we're like a family.
We tease 100%.
Speaker (55:39):
That's what it's about.
Miss Ray, everybody.
Yeah, there she is.
Wait a minute.
We got this, Miss Ray.
Speaker 1 (55:44):
Yes, thank you, audience in the studio.
Speaker (55:48):
You know, we're gonna do that.
We're gonna go out livesomewhere, and then if somebody
goes here, skip cricket.
Oh, no, that's all good.
Well, thank you for watching,everybody.
I know you like the beat.
Speaker 1 (56:05):
I do, I like the techno beat.
Speaker (56:07):
Hopefully, you enjoyed the conversation.
Uh, what can we do better?
Let's know.
We'd love to hear from you.
Uh, just let us know.
You can reach out uh if you goto well, it's skipclarkfrod at
gmail.com.
And of course, I'll respond orI'll send it over to Miss Ray
and she'll respond.
So it's all good.
Thanks for being here,everybody.
We do appreciate you.
This has been another editionof Skip Happens, and we hope to
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see you right back here nextweek.
What do you think, everybody?
Speaker 1 (56:33):
Happy?
Yes, two weeks left.
We're almost to Christmas,everyone.
Speaker (56:38):
Chuck DeMauri, good night.
Speaker 1 (56:39):
Good night, everyone.
Speaker (56:41):
Yes, now if I can find the end stream button.
I know it's like a whole newthing here.
See, so we go across.
There we go.
All right, good night,everybody.
See ya.
Here we go.
I got the beat.
Hello, are you guys?
Welcome to another edition ofthis.
And uh, of course, my name isKip Clark sitting next to me on
the other camera.
You got Miss Ray, everybody.
Here we are.
It's uh another week.
This is something we try to doevery week.
No, this is something new.
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Ms.
Ray came on board a couple ofweeks ago.
And normally when you see mecome on, for example, last
night, I talked to uh a countryartist, huge, big time Graylon
James last night.
If you haven't seen it, uh,check it out.
He's a fantastic songwriter.
I know that's stuff the only isgetting there.
He's a fantastic songwriter,and uh, he's had a couple of big
hits on the radio.
But uh, on nights like this, ifit's happening, we're talking
(00:44):
about it.
And we got some great stuff.
Uh, as you know, uh, there's alittle bit of age difference
here, which makes it even betterbecause there's things that
she'll talk about, and I'll go,I have no idea what the hell
she's talking about.
And then there's things I'llmention, and she'll look at me
and go, What?
For example, let me give you anexample, all right, uh, before
(01:06):
we get into everything.
So today, today, Miss Ray wasworking at her desk and and I
walked around the corner goingto get one of my 15 cups.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
This is a true story before you continue.
I want everybody to know thisis a true story.
Speaker (01:19):
All right.
So I I walk past, hey, hey,Regan, how are you?
You know, and all that.
And I go to get one of my 15cups of coffee.
And uh then I come back and Isaid, you know, um, you know,
that they're not making thepenny anymore.
The penny is pretty much athing of the past, even though
they're still, you know, incirculation.
But uh then I said, uh, well,you know, um I was reading also
(01:41):
today that uh checks are goingaway.
Checks.
And Miss Ray's comment was thecereal checks, the cereal is
going away.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
I mean, I snapped my neck.
I was like, the cereal, likelike the cereal is being taken
away.
And he's like, No, Reagan, likeno, no, like the check, a
check, and you're going, whatare you talking about?
Speaker (02:07):
Yeah, I said, checks, we write out checks to pay
bills, and uh yeah, so that's atrue story.
It really happened.
Hilarious, you know, and I getin that argument with my wife
all the time about I'm like, youknow, you're not gonna be
writing checks pretty soon.
Everything should, you know,and I haven't written a check in
probably 10 years, to be honestwith you.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Never written a check.
I received checks, neverwritten a check.
I don't even have a checkbook.
Speaker (02:32):
And what do you do when you receive a check?
Um do you do the audit?
Speaker 1 (02:37):
I was actually is this the correct way to do it?
I go to the bank and I likefill out the little paper.
I feel like because I don'tknow.
I don't trust, I'm one of thosepeople that doesn't trust the
the system.
So I'm like, it takes threedays for that to get processed.
I'm just gonna take 10 minutesat max, go to the bank, deposit
my check, take care of business.
Speaker (02:57):
You know now I I don't I don't know what financial
institution you use, and nobodyneeds to know that.
But I know with mine, I go tothe app, I sign the back of the
check, put my account number, goto the app, deposit check, take
a picture of it, both the frontand back, put the amount in,
it's gone.
And at midnight, it's on myaccount.
It gets approved that quick.
That's so it's pretty cool.
Yeah, then I might have to tryit because we Reagan, this is
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completely the opposite of Ms.
of what we were just talkingabout.
Um, because using an app shouldbe what, yeah, exactly.
Yeah, but that's okay.
There's nothing wrong withthat, all kidding aside.
So, and that's what we'reabout.
I mean, we love doing that, sobut it's funny stuff.
We have these conversations allthe time, and we decide to come
on there and just talk aboutthings like that.
So, and because hopefully youcan relate as well if you're
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watching this, because yeah.
So do you have any pennies?
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Do I have any pennies?
Well, um, I don't at themoment, actually, because if you
go to Price Chopper, you can ifyou like, I don't know if you
can still do that.
Well, when you could, yeah, itwas like I gave all my pennies
to to my sister because sheshe's 11.
So I'm like she can have them.
Speaker (04:08):
It's Abby, right?
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Yes, shout out to Abby, by the way.
Abby, yes, um Abeline, yes, um,such a cute name.
I love that name.
Every time I listen to uhchoose in Texas, you're gonna
love this.
Every time I listen to Choosein Texas by Abby, I just like
Abilene, so it's like music tomy ears.
Speaker (04:29):
But she did she take the pennies to price chopper,
she sure did.
And can I ask?
I'm I mean, how much did sheget in the way?
Because they doubledeverything.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
I don't know how much she got.
I don't even, I don't know.
But that was a couple of weeksago, but I know she collected,
she went around the house.
Smart girl, yes, very smart.
Speaker (04:48):
Because they did, you know, I love that was a great
marketing thing for a marketinguh thing that Price Chopper did
was you know, bring your penniesin and we'll double it.
If you brought in a hundred,uh, let's say a hundred dollars
worth of pennies, which would bea whole mess of pennies, um,
you'd get a $200 gift card.
You know what I mean?
So that was pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
That's really cool.
Speaker (05:08):
That is really cool.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Price chopper knew what they were doing with that.
Yeah, yes.
Speaker (05:12):
Yeah, I love that.
I love that.
So, uh, anyways, um, let me askyou, are you still eating
Thanksgiving leftovers?
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Um no, because you know it's 13 days.
Speaker (05:21):
Well, we're we're recording this on a Wednesday,
so it's 13 days afterThanksgiving.
And if you're still eatingthose leftovers, you're on your
deathbed.
You'll you'll get sick.
Don't do it.
Don't do it.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Just hold out.
We're two weeks from Christmas.
Speaker (05:35):
We we got this, or you'll get some really bad gas.
Yes, and you don't want to dothat, so that's not good.
But uh, I was reading aboutthat today.
It says uh you're puttingyourself at risk for serious
injury or even death or worse.
Can you believe that?
Well, I don't know.
It's who's gonna eat leftoversthat that old, anyways.
Just thinking about that.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
How long do you do you let leftovers sit before
you're like, nope?
Speaker (06:01):
They sit too long.
Because you know what itdepends.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
It depends on the food.
Speaker (06:06):
That's I don't know what happens in your household.
I don't know if your mom anddad do this or or what, but uh
you know, you finish dinner andyou got leftovers.
Like, you know what?
I'm gonna save, I'm gonna savethis pizza for later.
All right, you put it in thefridge, you wrap it up, put it
in the fridge.
Week later, it's still in thefridge.
Week and a half later, it'sstill there for the most part.
I mean, there's times, I mean,depending on what I did the
night before, you go and get thecold pizza, but but still, you
(06:30):
know, it does sit there.
Uh, it's like, all right, no,we're not gonna eat it.
It gets thrown out.
So yeah, it's crazy, crazystuff.
So, what else is going on?
I know we have a lot ofconversation about music.
Um you have your thing, I havemy thing.
I mean, which is pretty cool.
And you're starting to fallinto the country groove a little
bit.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
I am good for you.
I am country's kind of growingon me.
I think it might be because youknow, I'm falling in love with
the artists.
Yeah, I'm falling in love withthe people that are making the
music, the the work that'sgetting put into it.
And then it's it's like, how doyou not love the art?
Because that's whether despitewhat music you like, music is
(07:10):
art, and you have to kind ofappreciate what everybody's
putting together to create thatart.
Speaker (07:16):
So that's true.
That's true.
So you're looking at it from adifferent perspective than so
many other people.
Yeah, people just listen to iton the wolf and they they're
like, wow, that's a great tune.
But you look at it from anartist standpoint, I guess, from
what what they're thinking andwhat they're doing and how
creative they're being.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Yes, yes.
And you mentioned LL Lang.
Right.
And I think it's very normaland surface level to enjoy music
for what it what it soundslike.
You know what I mean?
Like the vibe it makes youfeel.
Um, but sometimes I I justreally like to deep dive into
music and understand like themarketing strategies that go
(07:53):
into the song, like the thepromoting the song, right, what
the artist is really talkingabout and the relevance to that
artist in their life um andtheir brand, like their image as
a whole.
Speaker (08:05):
You know what you're saying though, and anybody
that's watching this, if you geta chance, go back and watch the
podcast that I recorded lastnight with Grayland, Grayland
James, who's a songwriter, andyou're talking about you know
what goes into a song, and he'she's telling store a story.
When I asked him that, he goes,I go, what's it like to be a
uh, you know, a songwriter?
He goes, We tell stories, butthere's stories that I can
(08:29):
relate to or you can relate to,and he puts it all together and
puts it to music, and it's justamazing.
You know, water at a wedding,for example, his song.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
I was just thinking that.
Speaker (08:39):
I was hoping you would mention that song, and he talked
about it last night.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Can you talk about what that for listener uh people
watching that might not knowwhat that song um entails?
I think that what you describedto me earlier was fun, like
yeah.
Speaker (08:51):
He um, you know, he the way he put it last night, you
have to go back and and watchthe podcast, but uh and listen
to what he had to say.
But it's real life for him.
Single guy, he's songwriting,he's um he worked very hard to
get where he's at now.
Um, but the thing is, and hesaid it last night that he works
too hard at being GraylandJames, being a songwriter who
(09:13):
didn't have enough time for hislife, and therefore his personal
life, so to speak, you know,dating and stuff like that
wasn't working out too well.
And he said he lost a lot ofcompanionship because of the
relationships because of that,right?
So, anyways, he got invited tothis wedding, and it was one of
his ex-girlfriends, and uh hesaid he's standing there and
(09:35):
he's watching her and he knowswould you go?
Speaker 1 (09:38):
No, yeah, I don't think I would either.
I'd be like, Oh no, hold it,hold it, let me tell you what's
going on.
Speaker (09:44):
Okay, sorry, no, no, no, but how true, how true?
But no, you know, maybe well,you never know.
You never know on therelationship side of things.
But um, he goes to the wedding,notice that uh she's drinking
water.
If you listen to the song,there's no bubbles in the water,
which means there's nothingcarbonated, no mixed alcohol or
anything like that.
Um, and he it's just the wayshe was acting, and uh she acted
(10:11):
like she really didn't want tobe there.
That's in the song, and thenpossibility of her being
pregnant, uh and her being froma small town.
Uh what is everybody gonnathink because of that?
Um, that's what the song is isabout.
It's a true story, it's a truestory.
And he said that he was um notthat I don't want I want you to
(10:32):
watch the podcast, it's reallygood, but he said that um the
record label that that song'sbeen out, it's been available
for quite a while.
It was on social media longbefore Wait Till You Have Kids,
which was his second hit, um, orhis first first hit, I'm sorry,
and then now Water at aWedding, second hit.
But um the label he wanted toput that one out first, Water at
(10:56):
a Wedding.
The label said, No, we want youto put uh Wait Till You Have
Kids.
So they made the decision, andthat's what he did.
And uh now that went throughthe, you know, now they're off
of that and they're on withwater at a wedding.
So, which I think should havebeen the first thing.
But here again, it's somebodyelse telling him what to do, and
that gets to something like wewere gonna talk about.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Yeah.
Speaker (11:16):
Um, being an artist, being your creativity, and you
know what you want to do.
I mean, how do you handlesomebody else telling you as an
independent artist?
You pretty much pretty much runyour own show, but from a
labels perspective, one of themajor labels, they're gonna look
at it like, well, we want youto do it this way.
(11:37):
You know, it's like working fora big corporation, you have to
certain guidelines, certainrules, I guess, and you do what
you're told.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Right.
unknown (11:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
That makes me wonder then why some artists do sign
with record labels if they knowthat they're gonna be limited in
their art.
Um do you know what I mean?
I think that that's interestingbecause there's a lot of
artists that do go throughrecord labels.
There is, and there is I knowfrom firsthand experience
(12:06):
through our work that we we seethe direct support that comes
from record labels for theseartists.
You know what I mean?
They're there to make sure thatum these artists feel um good.
Yeah, I mean, they haveeverything that they need,
they're facilitating all ofthese encounters and
interactions, making sure thattheir artist is safe.
(12:26):
Um, and I'm sure that they'realso helping influence branding
a little bit as well.
Speaker (12:31):
Yeah, the the big labels, they have their own
marketing, they got their own uhAR people that are gonna go out
and represent the artist.
They put the artist through um,you know, like how to handle an
interview and how you know yougot to change your looks.
I mean, I um I interviewed NateSmith a while ago on the
podcast before he was anybody,and he looks completely
(12:52):
different now.
His hair is different,everything about him is
different, and that's becausewhen he signed with a label, of
course, you know, they kind ofchange you a little bit.
And the same thing with CarrieUnderwood.
Now, going back when CarrieUnderwood was on American Idol,
when she won American Idol, um,I went to New York for the CMAs
that year.
We broadcast live at the radiostation I was at, and Carrie
(13:13):
Underwood happened to be hangingout with her mom.
And here's this young woman,the ponytails, and just you
know, went over and said helloand very like shy and and all
that.
She had just won Idol.
But now look at her.
It's like, holy crap.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
You know, I mean, I know it's been a lot of years,
but uh, I mean, she there was alot of um marketing and bringing
that went into her, but yeah,exactly musically, but she also
she did acting as well, which Ithink is super interesting when
you take into consideration theentertainment industry.
There are a lot of artists thatactually broaden their horizons
in other arts like acting.
Speaker (13:50):
Look at Reba.
There you go.
Yeah, I mean, you know, foryears being uh just an awesome
country singer artist.
Um now she, you know, her TVshows and all that, it's just
phenomenal, you know.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
And I'll it all goes into her brand as an artist,
yeah.
Speaker (14:08):
And Reba's the reason I got in the country, so I even
had a dog named Reba.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
So cool.
Speaker (14:15):
And I told her that once, and then I felt about this
big, and I said, Don't botheropening the door, I'll go under
it when I leave.
Yeah, God honest truth.
It was at the state fair.
It's like I was so scared.
I was so scared, I was sostarstruck, but uh yeah, but
that's true though.
A lot of these artists, youknow, they're going into acting
as well.
So you know, and they're cool,they're real, they're real
people.
Yeah, I like that.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Kind of going back on the Grayland James and
releasing music that stays verytrue to his heart.
Um I think it's interesting.
I wonder if there's everartists that regret music that
they release.
I recently read an article, notthat this artist regretted her
her music, but um KelseyBallerini kind of touched on
(14:57):
that she felt like her latlatest album um was a little bit
harsh towards her ex.
Like some of the way that sheexpressed her music or her
feelings um was a little harsh.
And I thought that that wasreally interesting.
Speaker (15:10):
This was her saying this, yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
This was um, yeah, interesting.
This was um an article that Iread.
Um, so I I think it'sinteresting to kind of take into
consideration in the grandscheme of things with artists.
Like, does this happen morecommonly than than we know?
Or has there have you ever hadan interview where you've had an
artist that be like, you know,I I came out with this song, and
(15:35):
years later I don't reallyrelate to that, or you know, I
don't connect with that.
Speaker (15:40):
Of all the artists that I've had a chance to sit down
and have a conversation with, II don't recall one person, you
know, saying anything like that.
I'll ask the question, youknow, is there a song out there
that you wish you had sung?
That's a good question, or youhad written, and I get great
answers with that, but I'venever heard the what you're
(16:00):
saying.
But that's interesting, yeah.
Because Kelsey, you know,Kelsey, um, she's also been
through a lot in her life.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Yes.
Speaker (16:08):
So um, you know, a couple of rough relationships
and um and all that, but um,yeah, I I didn't hear that, but
wow, yeah, yeah.
That's interesting.
I have to look that up.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Yeah, and then she's she's just one artist in the in
the whole grand, you know what Imean?
In the whole big picture, yeah,the grand scheme of things.
So it makes me wonder if thisis something that we see more
often, especially maybe now,yeah.
When yes, right.
And when you also take intoconsideration what you mentioned
earlier with artists kind ofneeding like Grayland James
(16:42):
pushing out a song, um, adifferent song than he
originally wanted to.
Um I just I think that that'sinteresting.
Speaker (16:51):
That's very interesting.
I now you got me really likethe gears are turning, and I'm
thinking, but uh, and it it kindof gives me some prep for my
next podcast with anotherartist, which I'll put that
online here in a little bit.
But uh yeah, that's prettygood.
Wow.
Yeah, that's very interesting.
It's just amazing.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Just some food for thought.
Yeah, just some food forthought.
Speaker (17:13):
Uh exactly.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Um, and then on the aside from that, we um talked
about like coaching and PRingand stuff along those lines.
Um, was there have you everdone like a two interviews of
the same artist and you can likedistinctly tell that there was
PR coaching?
You don't have to say theartist, but like you like know
(17:39):
that this artist went from thefirst interview to the second
interview, like they havechanged the way that they say
things.
Speaker (17:45):
Yes, you can't I have I have, and if you go back and
look at some of the earlierpodcasts that I've done, I've
been doing this quite a fewyears.
Skip happens, but uh, if you goback and look at some of the
artists early on, uh in thebeginning, the very beginning, I
had a lot of really newindependent artists, and you
could tell um that they weren'tprepared.
You you know, it was like, allright, because if I, as somebody
(18:11):
that's interviewing an artist,if I need to reach in and pull
something out, then you know,it's pretty obvious when I'm
doing that.
That means they're not givingme the information that they
should be giving me.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Right.
Speaker (18:23):
You know, that they're not giving me uh, I ask a
question and then there's apause, and then I I have to ask
it in a different way, maybe toget a different type of answer.
But uh that um I'm sureresponse time's a factor too.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
In the first interview, it took them about
three to five seconds torespond.
While the second time you'relike, oh my, you can come up
with a response one to threeseconds.
Speaker (18:45):
That's and that's part of you know, whether you're
going with an independentpromotion uh team firm or you're
with the major labels, theyhave that department.
You go through um where you sitdown and you talk about PR and
all that.
So this is how you're gonnahandle your interviews, um, so
on and so forth.
So yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
So some artists go through, so they they so-called
are independent, right?
Or they're kind of on theirown, and then they go through
this coaching process with arecord label.
What is um have you ever heardof an industry plant?
Have you ever heard of industryplant?
Speaker (19:21):
No.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
You have you ever heard of that phrase?
Speaker (19:24):
Uh no, it could be a one of my okay.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
So I um I've heard of an industry plant, and I kind
of did some research and thisthere's nothing that's confirmed
about this.
I want to make that disclaimerreal quick before we continue,
but it's basically these artiststhat um are seen to have these
this major label backing.
You know what I mean?
They're having an extreme labelsupport to push them to be more
(19:49):
famous quicker versus otherartists, and they're kind of
thrown into the industryrandomly.
I know from um Ice Spice was.
An artist that was um possiblyseen as a as an industry plant.
Get it.
I think now maybe shabuzy couldbe seen as an industry plant.
(20:13):
That's I saw that on the theseare uh ice fate, these are
things that I've seen on theinternet that they people were
saying um ice spice was kind ofone that I I came up with.
Again, these are not confirmed.
No, no, no.
I get what you're saying there.
Artists that kind of came outof left field, they became very
(20:33):
popular very, very quickly.
They knew what they were doingwhen it came down to branding
and promotions, and it just Idon't they should they kind of
sweep you off your feet.
Speaker (20:46):
I'm sure there's some there, but uh, I think a lot of
the artists, I know from my sideof things, doing the
countryside, a lot of that uh,you know, social media really
makes them big really quick.
Uh, you may not have heard ofthem, but yet look at the uh the
streams they have, and the nowall of a sudden they got all
these followers, and now all ofa sudden they're on a big tour,
and uh that's you know thesocial media side of things.
(21:08):
But you're talking about anindustry plant.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
I'm talking, yes, like the the record labels are
strategically picking artistsright.
Hang on because you're in forthe ride.
Speaker (21:20):
Yes, yeah, but uh geez, I don't know.
I don't even know what to sayto that.
I I don't know, to be honestwith you.
You're giving me the eye.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
I'm just I just interesting.
I think uh I like the way youthink about it, yeah.
Um, and how these artists getto be who they are, and how how
some artists make it and otherartists don't.
Um and like you mentioned withum digital technology at our
(21:52):
fingertips.
Now that's scary.
It it is at it is scary.
Speaker (21:56):
Yeah, we were messing around with it.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
The accessibility to to reach audiences at your
fingertips.
Like artists can connect withfans like never before.
Speaker (22:05):
Um, yeah, but is it the real artist?
That is it, are they beinghonest?
Are they uh, you know, you andI both know we just had this uh
somewhat of a conversation aboutthis at the uh radio station
here recently about uh peoplegoing online at what is it,
Suno?
Yes, and uh you put yourwhatever you want the lyrics to
be, and uh tell whether you wanta country hip hop or whatever,
(22:28):
and uh it so last week wementioned the um AI artist that
got signed.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
I did some research because I wanted to make sure
that we were correct.
And the artist's name is Ibelieve it's Zanaya, so it's
x-a-n-i-a monet.
Okay, and she signed withHallwood for a little over three
million dollars.
And this um Zanaya Monet is aAI artist that is created
(22:57):
through another woman, and shedid an interview with CBS that I
watched, and she showed how sheuses programs like Suno, which
is music AI, and we checked thatout.
Um, where you basically go intothe program, you type in the
style of music that you want.
For example, we were um wewe've been brainstorming jingles
(23:22):
or ways to like come up with anintro for our podcast.
So we're like, what can we whatcan we possibly come up with
off rip in this AI?
And funny enough, we just typedin like a few words, give me a
country styled jingle withhosts, Ray and Skip, and it came
up with a whole bunch ofdifferent options that all kind
(23:42):
of it was a whole song, yeah.
Speaker (23:44):
Yes, it was a three and a half minute song, yes, and
you know, but then I sat backand I was thinking about it, I
go that could be kind of cool.
But then, but then Miss Raygoes, hold the phone, hold the
phone, skip, and 100% correct inthis.
Why would we even do that whenwho I am and what I do for a
(24:08):
living promote country artist?
And if anybody's gonna do anopening for the Skip Happens
podcast for you and I, um, it'sgonna be a real artist.
We're not gonna do that.
Why would we even think aboutthat?
Now, the whole idea was kind ofcool.
I mean, when you hear it, butthen again, there's the flip
side that, for example, I'll goback to Graylin.
(24:29):
Here's a guy that works so hardwriting these songs and putting
the music to it, and you know,touching the hearts of so many.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
And writing a song about a real life experience
that a real human had.
Speaker (24:44):
He could write that song, he could take water at a
wedding and put it into Suno,and somebody else would sing it,
and it wow.
I think it's important.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
I agree.
I think it's important for usto acknowledge that this
technology exists out there,that this is a major threat to
artists, a major threat.
100%.
And I think it could even be athreat to, dare I say,
personalities like you and I.
Well, there has been we didn'tlook into that possibility.
Speaker (25:15):
I can tell you could you I could tell you that uh
they had one radio station hadan AI on air jock.
Uh that's all I did.
And and some people didn'tcare, but other people that, you
know, it's this is mylivelihood, this is what I do.
No, no, and we're not that'snot gonna fly.
That's not gonna fly.
So yeah, but it has happenednow.
(25:38):
Uh you know, and I mention AI,do I or do I know not go to you
and say, hey, why didn't you putthat in chat GPT or whatever?
And so I guess what I'm sayingto kind of shift the gears here
a little bit, I'm not totallyagainst AI.
I am not.
I am against it when it comesto taking money out of people's
(26:00):
pockets and not being the realdeal.
And we need to be real radio,real jocks, real artist.
That's what we need to do, andthat's what we will continue to
do with the wolf.
I can tell you that much.
Um, but then on the other hand,when it comes to uh writing a
letter, you just, you know, weall have the brain farts, we all
(26:20):
have that going on.
You want to write a letter, youknow what?
Put your points in there, seewhat it comes up with.
You can still make it your own.
That's where it can help you.
But the other, absolutely not.
It's crazy.
That's my opinion.
I mean, maybe I'm old school,but uh that's I am old school.
But yeah, yeah.
(26:40):
Real, oh yeah, real YouTube.
Yeah, we're real.
Uh, it's my buddy Chuck.
He's on.
So uh, no, we are not everynight.
Uh Ray, Miss Ray and myselfwill do this once a week, Chuck.
Um, but the other deal withskip happens with the artists, I
try to do, I try to do thatonce a week, or whenever there's
an artist available and theyreach out and want to go on.
(27:02):
I'm not gonna say no.
So that's how all that works.
Unless, unless it's on aThursday, like tomorrow night,
we can't do it.
We have a party.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Yes, that's why we're doing it today.
Yeah, yes.
Speaker (27:14):
Her first go ahead, you tell everybody.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
I'm going to my first company party tomorrow.
Yes.
Yes.
I'm so excited.
It's gonna be so much fun.
I wasn't able to make it lastyear, but this year I'm going.
Speaker (27:26):
And who are you bringing?
Speaker 1 (27:28):
I'm gonna bring my mom.
Speaker (27:29):
Uh-oh.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Which is not uh does that make you nervous?
No, no, I'm not nervous.
No, I'm not nervous to have mymom come with me.
I think some people would benervous, but I love my mom a
lot.
I know that's a good thing.
No, I know you do.
I'm saying, and if you didn't,I'd go, what's wrong with you?
Yes, I I love my mom very, verymuch.
Speaker (27:50):
So and your dad.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Yes, and my dad, but poor Frank is sitting out there
going.
Speaker (27:55):
She left me out of this conversation.
What the hell's going on?
Yeah, yes, I know, but no,exactly.
Exactly.
No, the reason I say thatbecause I haven't met your mom
and dad yet.
And I so look forward to sayinghello, and uh, you know, and I
I tease you all day and say, ohboy, this is gonna be it.
We'll never see Reagan again.
Mom and dad are gonna say,You're not going back to that
place.
You know why?
Because we work in anenvironment that is very loose,
(28:17):
so to speak.
You know, we say what we feel,but we do a good job of it.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
I think anybody that works, um we're not corporate,
we're not corporate, is yes,that's what I was trying to get
at.
Is anybody that doesn't work incorporate, um, but still works
in a business like that, andyou're with people that you are
very close with, like the wholebuilding feels like a family in
a way.
Like everybody, I don't know.
Speaker (28:44):
Nope, it's so true.
It's so true.
It's so funny.
I mean, I've been there sinceuh 2007.
I came from Clear Channel, andwhich is now iHeart.
Uh, I did the morning show onthe oldies channel 92.1 years
ago when it was WSCN.
Now WSCN is our sister station,the dinosaur.
And I mean, it's like, don'teven try to figure it out
because it's it's like becauseyou're just gonna get confused,
(29:06):
yeah, totally confused, buttimes have changed, so yeah,
it's not crazy stuff.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Um, I kind of want to touch more on the the digital
aspect of things.
So um I want to talk aboutvideo.
We um often have music dealingwith audio, just audio, but I
think that there's a lot ofvisuals that help aid music and
can help aid artists, um as likeusing concert films, okay, uh
(29:38):
you making film soundtracks.
I think that musicals even aidmusic in a way.
Speaker (29:45):
Yeah, I know I know the thing I Chuck is watching this
and he's big video guy.
So this is interesting, and andhe can chime in if he'd like.
But uh yeah, so you're talkingabout how video kind of goes
together with right, how does itaid the music and all that?
Like you're talking about likea music video, like when we see
(30:06):
the music video, yes.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
And I think that that yes, like video killed the
radio star, like MTV.
Speaker (30:15):
I know you you know that song was long before you.
I'm sorry.
Well, maybe not.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
I I know the song, I actually learned about it.
Speaker (30:24):
That was the first thing they played on MTV.
I know that you do it.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
You learned that in school.
Speaker (30:29):
Cool, which I yes, I remember that day though.
That's the thing.
Yeah, that was amazing.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
I wish we still had MTV.
Now they just playridiculousness, no hate, no hate
to MTV.
No, but it was fun.
I wish I wish that they wouldbring that back.
I wish that there was a forumaside from YouTube where you
could just watch music videos.
I think that that would bereally awesome.
Speaker (30:53):
See, that's MTV in its heyday, was all the videos and
the countdowns and everything.
You saw the artists and the theuh um VJs, not the DJs, but the
video jocks, they were soawesome.
And uh then CMT came along, andthat was great because now
you're seeing all the countryartists, and it was all
back-to-back videos, and you'rehearing uh the new video once it
(31:15):
came out, you know.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Um which I'm sure helped aid and brand those
artists on a whole nother level,on a whole nother level.
Because aside from that,artists were branding themselves
through CDs, through but youdon't see yourself on a CD, so
to speak.
Like when the video's the imageof them is like that's how we
(31:38):
see the artist or create likebrand an image and and likeness.
Speaker (31:42):
But now with the video, when it's attached, when the
music's attached to a video, yousee the artist, you you feel
the excitement of if it's aconcert, you feel that and say,
Wow, this guy puts on a greatshow, or this this is excellent.
So that's where video doesassist in the the way music uh
being put out.
But uh oh yeah, but the uh OGDJs were so cool, he says.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Do you think that music could be just as
successful today without mewithout visuals?
Like well, or do you think thatthat's something crucial in
kind of standing out or gettingyourself to I think it's a big
plus, yeah.
Speaker (32:18):
But when I hear what people are doing, um, you know,
they're listening to Pandora,Spotify, and all that that does
not have the video attached.
You're listening to the music.
Um now you you see a littlebit, if you go to TikTok, you'll
see a little bit of the artistdoing whatever, you know.
But yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
And there's also a little bit of uh collaboration
here, you know.
You have the music industrycreating the music, and then you
have like the film or thetelevision industry that is
well, they gotta work together,right?
Speaker (32:49):
They gotta work, they collaborate.
Yes, you know, Nina Blackwood,uh interesting relationship
Chucky's talking about.
Nina Blackwood.
You remember?
Did you not?
No, I didn't think so.
It's like the checks, allright.
Um, Martha Quinn.
Um, Martha Quinn, if I'm notmistaken, went to SU.
So that was really cool.
(33:10):
And I actually Martha Quinn, Iwas working, uh, she was one of
the VJs back in the day.
Um, I was working at a radiostation, and she actually came
in and hung out for a little bitand we talked.
It was really cool, you know.
It was so cool, so cool.
Most people, Nina Blackwood,she had such a like a real dog
deep voice, and she does shedoes stuff now on Sirius, and it
(33:31):
you know, it'd be like, Yeah,just Nina Blackwell, and uh you
know, it's like you're who butyeah, she was a heavy smoker,
that's why.
So you know that happens.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Yeah, speaking of music and film TV industry.
Did you see the um the mostrecent Netflix?
Oh, the P Diddy P Diddy thing.
Speaker (33:55):
Oh my god, no, but I've I have not seen it.
But uh, I don't know if you'rewatching this, if you have seen
it, but uh uh Miss Ray wastelling me about this.
I have not seen it, it's onNetflix.
I do want to watch it, but itgoes pretty deep, right?
Speaker 1 (34:08):
I mean it does, it does.
Speaker (34:10):
See, I remember P.
Diddy from back in the day, andI thought, wow, this guy's the
coolest thing going.
But uh, you know, then he hadbad boy records, right?
Speaker 1 (34:18):
Yes, yes, it was a bad boy.
He was and watching the um wow,watching the the f the show
series, um, it was reallyinteresting to to see how he
branded.
Speaker (34:31):
You're gonna ruin it for me, aren't you?
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Yeah, how he like branded the branded bad boy, and
then how over time there wasthese, I guess, so-called
conspiracy or like actual eventsthat occurred where he was
doing things that were not good,and then it all comes to a head
now, you know.
And I think seeing thatdocumentary, it really questions
(34:58):
the music industry.
And I hate to say that, but itit does.
It's one of those things wheredid you see the um yeah, HBO
Max?
I I believe it was last year,came out with a show about Dan
Snyder.
Do you know who Dan Snyder is?
Speaker (35:13):
How do I know that?
Speaker 1 (35:14):
So um Dan Snyder was the like head producer of
Nickelodeon.
So he he um he produced showslike iCarly, Victorious, okay,
Sam and Cat.
That's how I know it.
Yes.
Um I believe Zoe 101.
He created a lot offoundational shows on
Nickelodeon, and he was not agood guy.
(35:38):
And that's what that limitedseries talked about.
And it really put things intoperspective, I believe, for all
of us about the the um likechild film industry and like
television industry and how wetreat children in those
settings.
And I think that whether thisP.
Diddy documentary intentionallymeant to do that or or not, it
(36:03):
really puts things intoperspective about the entire
music industry.
Speaker (36:07):
So we need to watch that.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Yes, if you have I've seen it, I am shook.
It is wild.
Well, I also want to put thingsinto perspective that I I like
heard of P.
Diddy.
I didn't really know P P Diddyin his prime so sadly.
Which I did, yes, like I wastoo young to really understand
(36:30):
what what he was doing, and thenI heard really it all came to a
head for me with the Cassietrial, where I was like, oh my
gosh, this this big producer,he's he's done what?
And there was a video, and itwas just it was not good.
And then to watch thatdocumentary, I was like, this
really um, first of all, is veryshocking and horrible, but it
(36:54):
it really puts things intoperspective about whether it
means to or not about theindustry as a whole, very
similarly to that Dan Snyder umshow.
Speaker (37:02):
But I I don't know, it it does put it put it into
perspective the industry as awhole, but it shouldn't because
I don't know, I don't think it'slike that everywhere.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
I completely agree.
Okay, right so but it's gonnagive that impression just
because yeah, or it's gonna makepeople look at things a little
differently.
Um yeah, because there were alot of factors that P.
Diddy was involved in, you knowwhat I mean?
Like you have uh drugs is onething, and then uh sex addiction
(37:37):
is another.
You know what I mean?
Like those are two, in myopinion, separate things,
although they go together.
Speaker (37:41):
Like he has somebody killed.
So that so I don't want tospoil the show.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
No, no, no, because somebody didn't directly say
that P P Diddy killed anybody,but it it does insinuate that he
may have been involved in Tupacand Biggie's yes, Biggie's
small murder.
Speaker (38:02):
Yes, yes, and we were talking about that, or somebody
was talking about that in thehallway the other day at the
radio station.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
Yes, yes, yeah, the radio station, yes.
He was talking about it.
He was like, You guys gottawatch it, it's so amazing.
And I was like, I've alreadywatched it, Sam.
Tell them, tell them, like itis crazy, they need to watch it.
Um, okay, because it's it'svery Netflix, right?
Speaker (38:24):
I just well, I know what I'll be doing this week.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
That 50 Cent got to produce some of it, so you have
this artist that's veryacclaimed, skilled, seasoned, so
so well.
Um share his his insight andhis story.
Speaker (38:44):
I mean, I yeah, so it's very captive, uh, captivating.
Yes, you're not gonna walk awayfrom it.
You're you're you're gonnawatch it.
You have to put it on pause touse the bathroom or to get some
popcorn, then come back.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
Hopefully, you have ads on Netflix because you're
gonna be glued through all four.
Speaker (39:00):
I don't pay the higher amount, I have the lower amount.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
That's your bathroom break time.
Speaker (39:05):
Oh, definitely gonna have to check that out.
So, yeah, I remember you weretalking about it.
Sam was talking about it.
Um, I heard that it and it'slike I hadn't seen it yet.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
So yeah, but I will.
It was it was very interesting.
And it was interesting to seehow he created Bad Boy
Entertainment.
Um, aside from all of the verynegative things of involved with
him.
Like it's very interesting tosee what moves he made to brand
(39:35):
his company.
Speaker (39:36):
Interesting.
Wow.
Where to get 'em.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
Yeah.
Speaker (39:41):
Just saying.
Kind of weird stuff going onthere.
Yes.
Really weird.
Yes.
Ah, yeah.
Right.
I gotta watch that.
Now you gotta be reallyexcited.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
Um I wonder if like history ever repeats with
artists.
Like the Big E and Tupacbattle.
That that was, and they didtalk about that kind of being
predetermined by Diddy, but wesee things um reoccurring.
Like there was, I believe,within the last few years,
(40:11):
Kendrick Lamar and um Drake hadlike a rat battle.
That's right.
And then people createanalogies or compare artists,
um, like Laney Wilson or DollyParton saying that that they're
similar.
What do you have to say aboutthis or your thoughts?
Kind of also taking intoconsideration branding, working
(40:35):
with labels.
Speaker (40:37):
I think I know I can speak on the country side of
things that uh you're talkingabout Laney and you're talking
about Dolly.
Uh it's all going back to thosedays.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
Um like Jesse Murph kind of yes, yes, exactly.
Speaker (40:52):
And um, it's definitely going back, like everything, in
my opinion, goes in a 20-yearcycle.
So let's go 20 years ago.
I mean, Dolly was big, all thatwas happening.
It uh and Laney's kind of doingher own thing in in her
footsteps, so to speak.
Uh Zach Topp is doing uh stufflike Alan Jackson did.
Um that that that's what'shappening.
(41:13):
Yes, it's happening again, andit's coming back, even with a
younger audience such asyourself.
Uh, they're digging it.
It's it's like, and they playthe you know, they'll play stuff
like that at the concerts, anduh it's like everybody gets into
it, you know, and especiallysome of the older stuff.
Even if somebody does a shania,I mean it's all coming back.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
Have you uh do you know Sierra Farrell?
Or Pharrell Farrell?
Speaker (41:39):
Well, I know a Pharrell.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
Is it Sierra Pharrell?
Speaker (41:42):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (41:43):
No, well, she uh she's like a folk singer and she
sings um like renditions ofvery older songs, and okay, I I
see her on TikTok all the time,and I am like obsessed with her
because her voice sounds like soraspy, so interesting.
And I thought originally thatshe was singing original songs,
(42:05):
but like I said, she's she'ssinging these songs that are her
singing older.
Speaker (42:12):
You know who's doing that now?
Who's gonna put it out?
Michael Bublet is dropping analbum with all the old uh
country classics.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
No way, yeah.
Speaker (42:24):
Oh, yeah.
They haven't given me uh anactual release date, uh, but it
is coming.
He's in Nashville recording.
He has um, I know for a facthe's working with Dan Huff.
Dan Huff is one of the biggestcountry producers you'll know,
ever get to know.
Uh, great guy.
He's working on Michael Bublet,is working with him in
Nashville to get this album doneand to get it out, and it's
(42:45):
nothing but old classic country.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
That's so cool.
In the voice of Michael Bublé,in the voice of Michael Bublet.
Speaker (42:54):
Who would have thought though?
Speaker 1 (42:55):
These are people like I would not have thought that
Michael actually would do acountry album.
I well, I know surprised bythat.
Um, he's a he's a you know Ididn't know he was a country fan
like that.
Speaker (43:07):
So I don't know either.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
I'm excited to hear this.
Speaker (43:10):
He's saying that uh he was brought up on country.
They all say that.
I don't know if it's true ornot.
I'll be honest with you.
I don't know if they're justyou know saying that, but uh
almost you know, Beyonce saysshe was brought up on country.
Um, you're talking Neo said uhjust recently, I think we talked
about this last week, that youknow, oh yeah, he loves country.
That's you know, this and that,and uh you know, and you look
(43:31):
at some of these artists, youwould never picture them doing
country, but it's really good.
Shabozy.
Yeah, look at shabbozy.
Yeah, post Malone.
Post Malone, yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:41):
I I think when Post Malone came out, I can't think
of what the album's called, butI can I can see it.
It's got like an orangeundertone.
Congratulations on it.
Speaker (43:50):
Come on, did you go to the post Malone concert?
Speaker 1 (43:53):
I did, I I did the amp.
I did, but I didn't see PostMalone.
I worked that at all.
Speaker (43:59):
Oh, you worked that that's right.
That's right.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
Wow, that was a very hot and popping show.
It was very bad.
Yeah, it was it was it waspacked, and normally when when
it gets packed like that, Iactually try to get out of there
so I don't blame him later.
I don't blame him.
Um yeah, yeah.
Speaker (44:15):
So exactly.
Have you seen uh we're talkingabout artists here a little bit?
Have you seen Jelly Rolllately?
Do you realize he went hit hisweight loss, his journey?
I have seen um at his peak, hewas 550 pounds.
He has lost well over 200 andhe shaved his beard off.
And I saw a video of him onlinewith his wife Bunny.
(44:38):
And uh, first of all, you'd go,how do they ever yeah, you know
what I mean?
So um no, what are youthinking?
Never mind.
Um, no, it is, but uh, itshowed him just he was um with a
bow and arrow shooting at atarget and he got a bullseye.
You'd never know it was jellyroll except for the tats, you
(44:58):
know.
He's got a lot of tattoos onhis face, and you know, he went
through a rough time in hislife, but uh now it's like, are
you kidding me, dude?
It's amazing.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
I I did see that.
That is amazing.
Speaker (45:09):
So if you haven't seen him, look him up online, take a
look and see if you can find apicture and check out his uh
weight loss journey.
It's amazing.
It's amazing.
Speaker 1 (45:17):
A lot of artists, well, a good handful of artists
are are going through some goodweight loss journeys.
Um, Lizzo on the on the flipside of things, um has recently
actually posted a picture inretaliation to a comment that
fans made calling her fat.
Speaker (45:35):
And she I would just tell them it's too bad.
Speaker 1 (45:37):
This is the way that's what she what she did,
she took a picture of herself ina bikini and she posted and
she's like people made a commentabout how like people make
comments about whether I gainweight, whether I lose weight,
whether I put this on my body,whether they do that, whether I
do that.
And she was like, I think it'sjust time for people to stop
(45:58):
making commentary on people'sbodies and weights.
Um but I I think with that compthat in mind, um, sometimes we
see artists taking it a littleextreme, you know, and fans
expressing concern for artists.
Wicked.
Wicked recently came out forand you know, there's a lot of
(46:24):
talk and such along the linesabout those.
Speaker (46:28):
Um I haven't seen it.
Don't laugh at me, but I havenot seen it.
Speaker 1 (46:32):
The four good one.
Did you see the first one?
Speaker (46:34):
I have not.
Speaker 1 (46:35):
Have you ever seen Wicked?
Speaker (46:37):
Have not.
Speaker 1 (46:38):
Okay.
Okay, I haven't seen the play.
I saw the first film.
Well, the play is.
I love Ariana Grande.
You know, I saw her, I was oneof those kids that grew up with
her on Victorious.
Like, which funny enough, mymom.
I remember this.
My mom mentioned when she wason Victorious, she, you know,
(47:01):
Victorious is doing her thing,Jade's doing her thing, Kat uh,
who played Ariana Grande, um,who was played by Ariana Grande.
Um, my mom was like, This girlis gonna be somebody someday.
Speaker (47:13):
Look at her now.
Speaker 1 (47:14):
And look at her now.
Look at her now.
Speaker (47:16):
Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (47:17):
She is a big somebody today.
Speaker (47:19):
I know I said that to somebody the other day.
I said, I've never seen it.
They're like, What are younuts?
You've never seen it.
I said, No, never seen it.
Yeah.
Of course, you know, I mean,I've been, you know, my life is
like crazy.
Speaker 1 (47:30):
So yeah, you're very busy.
Well, I'm starting to slowdown.
Yeah.
Speaker (47:34):
Well, now here I am doing this.
Um, but no, this it's all it'sall good.
It's all good.
I just want to, you know, backoff on the skip clark a little
bit and just start enjoyinglife.
Speaker 1 (47:44):
Yeah.
Speaker (47:44):
You know what I mean?
So, yeah.
Speaking of that, I got theholidays coming up.
Yeah, uh, yeah, yeah, yeah,yeah.
You got a Christmas list.
Speaker 1 (47:52):
Two weeks.
Speaker (47:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:53):
I I still gotta finish my Christmas list up.
Speaker (47:56):
You know, all I want is socks.
All I want, all I want is so ifyou guys want to send me some
socks, I they need, you know,socks are probably the most
important piece of clothing, inmy opinion.
I because if you're not ifyou're not comfortable in your
shoes, and the socks play a bigpart in that, you're gonna have
a miserable day.
(48:16):
It's gonna suck.
All right, it's really gonnasuck.
So, and and I can't wear sockswith holes in them.
Of course, my socks get holesin them, plus we have a a yellow
lab that likes to chew on them.
So we get the holes in thesocks, and I cannot stand it
when my toe sticks through ahole in the sock, and I can feel
(48:36):
it on the inside of my shoe.
Speaker 1 (48:38):
It's a pet peeve.
Speaker (48:39):
I hate it.
I hate it.
Speaker 1 (48:41):
It is the worst, and this sock is so uncomfortable.
Speaker (48:44):
No matter what I do with this one sock that's got a
hole right where my big toe was,no matter what I do, it ends up
back in my drawer attached toits mate.
I could throw it out, it'sgonna come back.
I don't know.
I have a feeling I know.
Let me put it that way.
Is it Rossi?
Is it well?
No, I think I think it's like,you know, the laundry gets done,
(49:06):
it's like, oh, well, here's asock, throw it in the laundry,
and then nobody looks at it.
Well, you know, what Rossi, ouryellow lab.
I mean, yeah.
Speaker 1 (49:15):
He he is when I came in today.
Speaker (49:17):
Oh, yeah, how was he?
Because I was down here.
Speaker 1 (49:19):
He I was greeted, he was so good.
He came up, he said hi, andthen he ran downstairs and he
took a pillow off the couch andcame upstairs.
And your wife was like, getthat out of your mouth, get that
out of your mouth.
And he ran the other way, andhe ran the other way, of course,
and then he came back and hejust like shook his head with
the pillow in his mouth.
Speaker (49:40):
He wants you to play, that's what it's about.
And you know, that's a lay.
Speaker 1 (49:44):
Now that's a lay I was talking to her.
Speaker (49:46):
Oh, that could have been part of it because you're
like taking his attack's timeaway from mom.
Speaker 1 (49:51):
Yes, exactly.
Speaker (49:53):
Yeah, so anyway, anyways, on my Christmas list, I
mean the best selling is socks,so that's all.
I don't know.
You know what?
I'm gonna get another listtogether.
I will get a list together, metoo, and I'll have it next week.
Yes, so you know, make sure youcome back and see us next week
and uh we'll have our Christmaslist.
Yeah, it's gonna beinteresting.
I really want to know what's onyour list.
So, yeah, you'll have to piecesomething.
I'll tell you what's on mylist.
(50:14):
You might go, Well, you nuts.
That's not gonna happen.
But really, no, think about it.
I'll bet you your list will beso different than my list
because of my age and your ageand our interests, your
interest, and I mean, we have alot in common, which we're doing
(50:34):
this, and I love it, absolutelylove it that you've come on
board with Skip Happens andwe're having some fun.
This is what you went to schoolfor, and we're gonna make it
work.
Uh, we'll get you on the air atthe radio station and then take
good care of you.
It's gonna be so, so very cool.
It's a great opportunity that alot of people really don't get,
uh, but proud to be able to doit.
But um, my list will be likecompletely opposite of your
(50:57):
list.
Because what do you get a guythat's my age?
What do you get a guy that youknow?
Think about this.
If you're thinking aboutChristmas, your mom and dad,
what do you get them?
You know, here these arepeople, these are people that
probably struggle with that.
They have everything they want.
Yeah, you know, they have thebeautiful family, a beautiful
(51:17):
home, you know, but and they'vegot their everybody has their
toys, so to speak.
Speaker 1 (51:21):
I got my computers, I've you know, but uh yeah, and
I'll I'll be honest, gift givingis like not my love language.
I'm like not a material.
I just I'm not a verymaterialistic person.
I I really enjoy like the thesmall interactions between do
you know what I mean?
Like spending time with myfamily is the gift for me, yeah.
Speaker (51:43):
You know, and I tell my my girls that my three
daughters, and they'll say, Dad,what do you want?
I I'll I'll tell them whetherit's Angela, Nicole, or Carly or
even Zach, you know, it's likeI just want to hug, and then I
love it.
Yeah, you know, that's that'sall that's you know, being a
dad.
Speaker 1 (52:00):
That's yeah, you know, that's how I'm gonna be
able to do that's the bestthing.
Speaker (52:02):
That's the best thing.
Speaker 1 (52:03):
I relate to that.
I just want to be able to dothat.
Speaker (52:05):
Now my wife will ask what do I want?
And I'll say, Yeah, you know, Ikind of give her a long list.
No, it's just just kidding.
Speaker 1 (52:13):
Well, first I need the snodch.
Speaker (52:16):
That's so cool.
So, anyways, uh, yeah, prettycool stuff.
Uh, great conversation, by theway.
Great conversation.
I love this.
I love this.
So we're having a lot of fun.
Uh, skip happens.
Uh go on YouTube, subscribe,uh, you know, and we're gonna
try to do this.
What we we made a promise toeach other that we're gonna do
this every week.
If you're not consistent, it'snot gonna work.
It's like with anything else inlife.
(52:37):
If it's not consistent, it'snot gonna work.
unknown (52:40):
I'm right.
Speaker 1 (52:41):
We are gonna make this work.
Speaker (52:42):
We are gonna do this, and I cannot wait to meet your
mom at the party.
Speaker 1 (52:46):
Yes, so next week, stay tuned for how that goes.
Oh, yeah.
So uh because we will do that.
Are you dressing up for this?
I yes, I did buy like a cutelittle outfit.
I just want it.
Well, first of all, I didn'thave anything that was like red
or green that was like nicer.
I didn't, those just aren't mycolors.
(53:07):
Okay, no, I get it.
So I was like, I need to go getsomething, and I can't I found
this just little top and bottomthat like matches, and I was
like, that's so cute.
Speaker (53:17):
I got my wranglers in a nice button down.
Speaker 1 (53:20):
But is it red or green?
Is it festive?
Speaker (53:23):
Are jeans festive?
Speaker 1 (53:25):
Jeans are your shirt festive?
Speaker (53:28):
My jeans are blue.
Speaker 1 (53:30):
But what color is your shirt?
Because if it's not one ofthose colors, it just it won't
match the vibe.
Speaker (53:37):
Reagan, listen.
Speaker 1 (53:39):
Whatever's in the stand out like a sore thumb.
Speaker (53:42):
No, it won't.
I'll have a nice black buttondown with a nice blazer.
Speaker 1 (53:46):
That's a good question for the audience.
Are you one of those peoplethat that dresses when you like
dresses with the group, goeswith the group, or are you like,
screw that?
I'm gonna wear what I want.
Speaker (53:57):
Wear a holiday tie.
Yes, I have a holiday tie, ithas a cent on it, but you know
what?
This is not that type of party.
This is a party where we're allwell, everybody looks nice and
it's good to get together, butit's not like we're all formal,
it's not like we're all wearing,you know.
Speaker 1 (54:13):
Miss Becky's shown me this dress.
Oh my god, Miss Becky.
Yes, her dress was kind offancy, and I was like, You want
to know what?
I need to step up my game.
I cannot show up that's a womanthing, and that might be a
woman thing, but I kind of gotcompetitive.
I was like, Oh, Becky, you'renot gonna be the only one that's
that's looking adorabletonight.
Like, I want to look good andhave a cute outfit, and I know
(54:36):
that the other ladies are gonnalook great, so I'm like, I just
want to look good.
I'm gonna be able to do that.
Tia's gonna look great.
Speaker (54:43):
I know Tia's always styling, she's the tallest woman
that I know.
Go ahead, you tell her.
Speaker 1 (54:49):
I was just gonna say today she wore like a blue
flannel with black.
I don't even she her outfitlooks so good, but it literally
all matched, even down to hereyes and like her eyelashes,
like the mascara, like it allthe same blue.
It was so aestheticallypleasing.
I was like, Tia, you you looklike you're from a uh LL Bean
(55:12):
catalog, like girl, like I'm notkidding.
Speaker (55:16):
I walk through the door and it's like, what the hell
are you wearing?
I you know what didn't you lookin the mirror before you left
the house?
No, I'm in the house.
Speaker 1 (55:24):
So still, so still.
Speaker (55:26):
Yeah, no, absolutely.
It's a good bunch.
It's a good bunch, and we'llhave a good time.
It's our you know, radiostation get together.
Speaker 1 (55:32):
So you messing around with Tia just goes to show
we're like a family.
We tease 100%.
Speaker (55:39):
That's what it's about.
Miss Ray, everybody.
Yeah, there she is.
Wait a minute.
We got this, Miss Ray.
Speaker 1 (55:44):
Yes, thank you, audience in the studio.
Speaker (55:48):
You know, we're gonna do that.
We're gonna go out livesomewhere, and then if somebody
goes here, skip cricket.
Oh, no, that's all good.
Well, thank you for watching,everybody.
I know you like the beat.
Speaker 1 (56:05):
I do, I like the techno beat.
Speaker (56:07):
Hopefully, you enjoyed the conversation.
Uh, what can we do better?
Let's know.
We'd love to hear from you.
Uh, just let us know.
You can reach out uh if you goto well, it's skipclarkfrod at
gmail.com.
And of course, I'll respond orI'll send it over to Miss Ray
and she'll respond.
So it's all good.
Thanks for being here,everybody.
We do appreciate you.
This has been another editionof Skip Happens, and we hope to
(56:28):
see you right back here nextweek.
What do you think, everybody?
Speaker 1 (56:33):
Happy?
Yes, two weeks left.
We're almost to Christmas,everyone.
Speaker (56:38):
Chuck DeMauri, good night.
Speaker 1 (56:39):
Good night, everyone.
Speaker (56:41):
Yes, now if I can find the end stream button.
I know it's like a whole newthing here.
See, so we go across.
There we go.
All right, good night,everybody.
See ya.
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