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May 2, 2025 50 mins

Shiv is in conversation with Mathias Buus Madsen, CEO of Holepunch, Copenhagen. In this episode, Mathias shares

  • his journey into software development, 
  • beginning as a math student and evolving into a passionate advocate for peer-to-peer technology. 
  • He explains the foundational concepts behind peer-to-peer systems, their advantages over centralized models, and their applications in both personal and enterprise use. 
  • Mathias discusses how these decentralized systems enhance security, minimize infrastructure costs, and improve accessibility—especially for remote or underserved communities. 
  • He also compares peer-to-peer networking with blockchain, clarifying the distinct roles each technology plays. 
  • He touched on real-world applications of peer-to-peer tech, including its potential for rural connectivity and resilience in low-bandwidth environments. 
  • Mathias also reflects on his transition from hacker to entrepreneur, sharing insights into leadership, scaling a business, and the evolving landscape of decentralized internet solutions.

As CEO of Holepunch, Mathias brings his passion and extensive expertise in open-source development to the fore, having published more than 1000 modules to npm, the Node.js package manager, totalling billions of downloads every month.


Mathias Buus is a self taught JavaScript hacker from Copenhagen. He works full time on open source projects and has been working with Node.js since the 0.2 days. Mathias likes to work with P2P and distributed systems and is the author of more than 550 modules on npm, including some of the most popular ones for working with streams. In addition he has spoken about “mad science” projects at various conferences around the world.


You can also see his Github here:https://github.com/mafintosh and more info on Pear Runtime here: https://docs.pears.com/

Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Pears_p2p

Social - 

Mathias X: @mafintosh

Pears X: @Pears_p2p

Keet X: @keet_io

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