Alexis Gay: Silicon Valley’s Favorite Comedian Makes her “Unprofessional” Debut

If you don’t already know about Alexis Gay, you’re about to. Alexis is the creator and star of her solo comedy show, “Unprofessional”. Recently, her show was a hit at the world-renowned Edinburgh Fringe Festival, and she's now touring the show for audiences across the United States. 

Alexis previously worked in the tech industry running Business Operations and Creator Partnerships at Patreon.   Outside of work, she started creating videos featuring dead-on takes on tech culture -- and everyday life.   These soon went viral, racking up more than 24 million views across social media. Her sharp insights into startup life and its absurdities resonated far and wide, transforming her into a favorite amongst both tech insiders and comedy fans alike.

From viral videos to her successful podcast, Alexis has kept audiences hooked. She’s been profiled by Fast Company, Nightline, Business Insider, SFGate, and CNBC.  And now, she's stepping onto the stage as a standup comedian.

Now comes her debut solo show, “Unprofessional”.  It has received numerous four-star reviews and played to sold out audiences. Chortle, the leading UK comedy publication, called it “an entertaining and – ironically/appropriately – professional hour set in a world that’s rarely covered in stand-up.”

Whether you're a startup founder or someone who's never heard of venture capital, her observations land with a sharp, comedic edge. Catch her live and see why she's bound to be way bigger than…John Mulaney. 

Alexis Gay “Unprofessional https://www.alexis.gay/

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Episode Transcript

Kent Lindstrom (00:01):
I've wanted to do this episode for a long time.
In fact, I wish I'd done itsooner, but in the end,
I think my timing is perfect.I'm
Kent Lindstrom. I'm a partner atthe venture capital firm, eight
bit capital, we invest insoftware firms at the seed
stage, the earliest stage. And Ihave this podcast, and today, my
guest is Alexis, gay.

(00:23):
You've probably heard of her, ifnot, you can look her up and
check out some her videos.
Alexis was working in tech.
She liked it, she liked thepeople she worked with, she
liked the company she workedfor.
And she started making videos,short, funny things, and they
became popular, and then theybecame very popular, and then

(00:45):
she had a podcast. Everyone hasa podcast, right? But then she
took to the stage and became astand up comedian, that's right,
the thing you fear to do themost. She does full time stand
up comedian. Been doing it forat least three years, and just
recently did 23 shows at theEdinburgh Fringe Festival to
great acclaim, many sold outaudiences and and the reason I

(01:06):
say we're catching her at theperfect time is that she's about
to go on tour. That's right, anational tour of her comedy
show,
unprofessional.
So welcome back to the somethingabout your podcast. Enjoy my
conversation with a person forwhom I think pretty amazing
things are about to happen.Alexis gay, All right,

(01:33):
welcome back. This is thesomething adventure podcast. I
am Kent Lindstrom. I'm yourhost. My guest today is Alexis
gay, how are you doing? I'mdoing great. How are you good?
Thanks so much for doing this.Oh my God. What a treat. Thanks
for having me So
Alexis spent seven years in thetech industry, and she's here
today to talk about vectordatabases in the world of AI.

(01:56):
Alexis go,
oh crap, I'm sorry that's,that's tomorrow's guest. Well,
you know, I could probably giveit a shot. Is that
a good joke? That's what I puttogether. I like that, really.
That's funny. Just a venturecapitalist the um, are you like
most venture capitalists were,secretly, you wish you were a

(02:17):
comedian. Oh, God no, no, I'mhilarious. Actually, I believe
that I'm kidding. I am so mynotes, and this is why that was
the joke. I look at my notesbefore we start, and it says gay
joke, which, as I read it, I'mthinking, well, that's not
really what you meant to say.
Yeah. It feels like maybe, maybebest to avoid, yeah. I was

(02:38):
trying to do like the SteveMartin wrench joke, where he
tells, do you Steve Martin, youknow, like used to play
stadiums, and then he does thiswhole joke where the punch I'm
sorry, are you asking me if Iknow Steve Martin? I'm not. I
know you know Steve Martin. Andwhat
you know Steve Martin, you know,one of my biggest comedic role
models. You know, one of themost famous stand up comedians

(03:00):
in the entire world. He's prettygood, right? So I started yo his
books, fantastic. Be so good youcan't they can't ignore you,
right? That is what a mantra Ithink about it all the time. And
by the way, I tell friends whowant to do, like, My life goal
is to do like, five minutes tostand up at like, the local
thing, right? Yeah. I'm like,you're gonna be terrible. And

(03:21):
they're like, oh, yeah, geez,that's main thing to say. I'm
like, No, Steve Martin was doinglike five shows a day, every
day, for months. By the time hewas 19, he'd done like 1000
shows. Like, also, I don'tunderstand, for some reason,
people think that you have to begood at something immediately,

(03:41):
a worthwhile endeavor, and yousimply never are right? You
don't pick up a violin and go, Igot this right. And for some
reason with comedy, everyone'slike, Oh, if I'm not good at the
first time I'm ever gonna do it.Yeah, everyone just thinks
they're hilarious. Okay, so letme get this introduction right.
Oh, sorry. The seaborn joke Iwas kind of trying to emulate
was the he used to playstadiums, by the way, which is
kind of incredible, if you thinkabout it. But he tells the whole

(04:03):
joke, and the punchlines Like,it wasn't a socket wrench, it
was a sprocket wrench. And he'slike, Oh, it's not the plumbing
convention like that joke. Hedoes it with like, delivery
that's like, you know, funny.
Okay, so after seven years inthe tech industry, what Alexis
gay actually did was becamecomedian. That's right, funny
person who makes you laugh, youhave definitely seen her videos.

(04:24):
You've definitely forwarded hervideos to your friends. If your
friends are VCs, your friendshave definitely gotten those
videos and not realized she'smaking fun of them. She's also a
stand up comedian who is backfrom a triumphant engagement at
the Edinburgh Fringe Festivalfor her show, unprofessional,
and you have a podcast thatdoesn't really set you apart,
does it? That's true. I used tohave a podcast. I no longer have

(04:47):
a podcast. I wound it down aftera glorious 106 episodes. How?
How'd that go? Like? What?
Yeah, why'd you wind it down?

Alexis Gay (04:58):
Oh, and I guess I should also say.
That unprofessional that I'mabout to take it on tour, which
is huge first time. Don't worry,we're gonna promote your thing.
It's gonna be great. So nontechnical, the podcast. Why did
I wind it down? Honestly, Ithink about things.
I was worried that as I became

Kent Lindstrom (05:21):
less excited about it, you would start to
hear it in the recordings. And Iloved the show so much that once
I had the first inkling that Iwasn't enjoying it as much as I
used to, I shut it down. That'sinteresting. What did you you
know, I, when I started thispodcast, I listened to, I had
done radio at Northwestern and Ilistened to the Silicon Valley
Podcast. I'm like, they'reterrible. They're terrible.

(05:42):
They're just terrible. And Ilisten to the LA podcast, I'm
like, Yeah, Mark Marin, or, youknow, Howard Stern, whoever it
is. And I was like, you know, Idon't have to be as good as
them. I just have to be betterthan, like, some dude in Silicon
Valley with a microphone. What Ihadn't what's kind of obvious,
that I hadn't counted is, ifyou're Mark Marin,
your guests are trainedentertainers, they're comedians,

(06:04):
they're funny. And the waycareer works in Hollywood, you
can be Oh yeah, you know, I didheroin with that guy back in the
dude, you can tell the stories,right? Yeah, I'm always starting
my stories with I did herointhat actually really checks out,
yeah, back at the Comedy Club,right? And, but in Silicon
Valley. It's great. And I lovethe people I have on the
podcast, but they're, first ofall, not trained entertainers.

(06:25):
And, you know, Sheryl Sandbergis not going to come on and be
like, Oh yeah, you know, Mark,let me tell you a story about,
like, right? Everyone's puttogether. So I think it's a
struggle to make a SiliconValley podcast entertaining, I
guess is the punchline that's,you know, that's kind of why
with my show non technical,where I did interview
influential people from tech,media, business and beyond, but

(06:47):
I did it about everything excepttheir resumes. So I would read a
professional bio at the top, andthen for the show, I would ask
them things like, Do you believein ghosts, and what's a fad you
participated in, and what wouldpeople say about you in high
school? And so it put people ina position where they had to
answer questions they weren'ttypically media trained on,
yeah. And also that, I hope,made them able to feel like we

(07:11):
were just having a chat, aconversation. And so I think
that that broke people out oftheir shell a little bit, yeah.
And I also think you have athing emerging now where people
have done, wow, just gonna,like, stop podcasting. Like,
halfway through this thing, it'sso depressing. Where you have,
like, people have been on somany podcasts, right? If you
want to hear from MarkAndreessen, like, there's,
there's hours of him podcasting,sure. By the way, do people do

(07:32):
this with you when they knowyou're comedian? Do they try to,
like, amp it up when they'rearound you a little bit? Yes, I
feel like I'm doing that now alittle bit, like, I'm trying to
be funny because you're a funperson. Sure. Wow. Very
flattering. Thank you. And yes,it happens a lot. Is that a
thing? Okay, yeah, yeah, no,it's no big deal. All right, so
how do we come to this? We you,I assume you went to the NYU so

(07:52):
I assume nothing. You didn'tgrow up in the streets of
Bangladesh. Nothing excitingback there, right? We can get
right to your tech career. Or doyou mean streets of rural
Connecticut, exactly.

Alexis Gay (08:02):
So you start in the tech world. You are working at,
who cares something, tinystartup no one's ever heard of,
yep, or a big, famous company orsomething, but your tech girl,
the first one was a tiny startupno one's ever heard of, and then
big, famous company lots peoplehave heard of, and what, how'd
that go like? How do you like?What is this cool? Or, how do
you get into that? Like, why didyou become an investment banker?

(08:24):
Like, you're at NYU, you know?Yeah? Like, lawyer, doctor,
yeah. I, honestly, I fell intothe tech industry by accident. I
truly was not sure what I wasgoing to do when I left college.
I had spent a lot of my lifethinking about planning on being

(08:45):
an actress. I really lovedacting, but I was always
intensely academic as well, soit always felt like we're the
actress thing. What's going onhere? You were like you, so you
go to NYU. Is that why you wentto NYU? I went to NYU because
there's a school at NYU calledGallatin, which is the Gallatin
School of Individualized Study,and it lets you design your own
major. Oh, wow, yeah, and Ididn't feel like I

(09:09):
and you do it when you designyour own major. Is that? Does
that mean just don't do anythingfor four years, like independent
study in high school? Or is itsomething, something different?
First of all, I also did anindependent study in high school
and prompts I worked atGallatin. It means that you
design a concentration, you takeclasses at all the different
schools, which felt right forme, because I didn't want to be

(09:31):
a drama major. I felt there werea lot of ways to learn, to act,
and there was only one way toget a college degree. Or rather,
there was something specificabout the four years at a
university that I could use toreally broaden my horizons and
learn, and that I thought, well,I'll be in New York. I can act
in different ways. I don'tnecessarily need to be a drama
major to learn how to do it. Andalso, I minored in something

(09:53):
called the business ofentertainment, media and
technology. And so I paired my,you know, somewhat flew.
Fee Individualized Studyconcentration with the business
of entertainment, media andtech. But when I graduated from
college, I was sort of
unsure about what to do. Youknow, it was 2013 it wasn't as

(10:14):
easy as it is today to producecreative work independently. And
I my smartest friend worked intech, and he really loved his
job. And I thought, Okay, that'sinteresting information. And so
I got a job at a tech startup,and immediately fell in love.

Kent Lindstrom (10:29):
That's cool, you know, it's funny. I went to, I
went to Northwestern, which iskind of a theater school too,
yeah. And
so did like, like was kind ofadjacent. I produced theater at
Northwestern. Like, I tried, Itried acting.
That's hard. You have tomemorize, like, a lot of words.
But it was cool, like, I took, Itook a classroom. Like Frank

(10:50):
Gulati is, like, he's a reallysuper famous director. He ran
Steppenwolf in Chicago and wonTony's and stuff. And it was
funny, Stephen Colbert talkedabout him when he passed away.
Stephen Colbert went toNorthwestern too, and it was
just funny. I was an econ major,and you take a class from this
famous Tony winning dramateacher, and he he would say, We

(11:10):
actors, first of all, thinkabout that. Like we actors, or
econ major, whatever, what we dois impossible, like we get on
stage. Think about doing KingLear or something we get on
stage. We memorize a millionthings. It's basically
impossible. We do it. But I justwent with it. It's impossible,
and then ended up producingtheater, like musical theater at
Northwestern anyway, that's socool. Do you still do that? No,

(11:32):
I love I still think theater isa miracle. Like, when I go see,
I like, I saw the Lehman trilogyrecently. I go see a musical.
I'm like, It's a miracle thatsomebody wrote this, yep, spent
time to do it a bunch of a bunchof actors. It's incredible. Any
one of these actors could evensing like that in the first
place. And they all gettogether, and then somebody
financed and they came to mytown to show it to me. I'm like,

(11:54):
this is a miracle. It really is.There are a lot of reasons not
to do something, and it's somuch harder to do anything than
it is to not do it. And anythingthat involves that many people,
especially a creative project,it's, it is really a miracle
that it all comes together.Yeah? So I don't do theater now,

(12:16):
but I I'm a fan. So, yeah, it'sgreat. So in so, but you're
tucking along, or whatever thatis in your tech career. What? At
what point do you go? I'm gonnastart putting my comedic talents
out in the world and like,which? Where do you do you start
with the stand up? Do you startwith the videos making fun of

(12:38):
venture capitalists? Basically,

Alexis Gay (12:42):
well, it started actually, as a hobby. There was
about four years of my techcareer where I was so fully
immersed in tech that it was allI wanted to do professionally. I
never thought about acting, Inever thought about doing
anything creative. I was soenamored by the opportunities

(13:03):
that the tech startup in 2013,1415, offered, which was, if you
work hard, you can advance inyour career. You can learn a lot
of things. You can have a ton offun while doing it, and go to
all fun happy hours with smartyoung people, excited about
their jobs, full of passion,full of vision. It was a really
exciting time to be that age inthe tech industry, and so I

(13:25):
never really thought about thatcareer that I had left behind,
or that, you know, dream that Ihad had wanted to pursue, even
though it had been such a bigpart of my life. And it wasn't
until 2017, four years into myprofessional career that I was
like, Oh, this is, uh, this is alot of tech, a lot of tech. It's

(13:46):
all tech, all the time. All myfriends are in tech. I eat
breakfast, lunch and dinner atmy tech company. I'm going
insane. And I started takingimprov classes in San Francisco
because that was the way to doacting. But as a hobby, I was
like, I don't want to, I don'twant to, I don't want this to be
my career, but I miss havingfun. Yeah? So this is the whole,
like, the cat the submarine anda bar go that kind of improv.

(14:10):
Yep, yeah, you've seen my show.Yeah, it's fantastic. Have you
been and yeah, you guys aregreat. Have you you've been to,
like, the great, like, like,Second City and like, that's
also a miracle, like Groundlingsor second state of years,
absolutely, it's absolutely amiracle. I started taking improv
in San Francisco, loved it, wasvery afraid of it, and actually,

(14:31):
I think
it was important to do. I wouldrecommend improv to almost
anyone, yeah, and not saying,anyone who wants to pursue a
creative career, I mean, likeanyone, anyone, it really
challenges you to step outsideyour comfort zone. And it made
me a better manager, because inmy job, I was managing

(14:57):
a couple teams, I had sevendirect reports and.
Yeah, I was so much morecollaborative, so much more open
minded. I developed an abilityto be like, Okay, what I like
about the idea that yousuggested is this, and let's
talk more about it first, beforeimmediately being like, no,
yeah, because that shuts downthe conversation professionally,
right? Um, anyway, so I wastaking improv. Really loved it

(15:21):
only as a hobby. At this point,I'm just like, This is so fun. I
started making
I left one tech job, and then Ihad some time off, and I started
taking,
sort of making videos, shortsketch videos on my iPhone,
because I enjoyed it truly. Ijust I had liked video editing
when I was a kid. Yeah, that wasit. Started video wedding, tiny

(15:43):
shorts. I challenged myself tomake 30 short videos, one per
day for 30 days. Yeah, did that.And then started making YouTube
videos,
which was a big thing at thetime, still a big thing, but in
a different way. And then thatled to stand up, because I was
really afraid to do stand up.And I realized, yeah. And I

(16:05):
totally, totally get why Iremember being afraid of it. I
was like, what if they don'tlaugh? Yeah,
then what? Which is the weirdestthing, because what if they
don't laugh? Well, that'sexactly it. So I tricked myself
into doing it by finding an openmic. I went and I did some
recon. So I first attended anopen mic, and I was like, okay,

(16:28):
okay, everyone is surviving thisexperience. And then I changed,
this is how you can tell you towork in the tech industry. I
changed the success criteria forthe open mic. That's how I
convinced myself to go. Becauseyou think the success criteria
is make them laugh. I made thesuccess criteria go, yeah, go do
it. And so once I was like, allI have to do is go and say five

(16:52):
minutes worth of words into amicrophone. I was like, Oh,
great, doing it is the is thesuccess. And that's how I
convinced myself to do it. Andthat's honest to god, how I
convinced myself to do a lot ofthings. Yeah, and I gotta say,
with an open mic thing, it'salmost as awkward being in the
audience
like you, almost you almostempathize as much in the
audience like I might as welljust go up there, because I feel

(17:13):
so nervous anyway, right, right?Yeah, people get really bad
secondhand embarrassment. Imean, not for a good, like,
really good, like, cheaper thantherapy or something. But for
like, you know the come, hit thesign up sheet and get up here
kind of stuff. Yeah, absolutely.I mean, I think that people are
really empathetic, and audienceswill feel for the performer, and

(17:34):
they'll be like, Oh my God. Theymust be, oh my god, they must be
so, oh no, I can't even look, Ican't even look like, it's
cringy. I can, I can? Iunderstand why people feel that
way. It's why it's so important.And I mean, we could talk for
hours about the similaritiesbetween comedy and the tech
world, but conveying confidenceis so important on stage.

Kent Lindstrom (17:55):
Yeah, if you read a joke
by a comedian, like a greatcomedian,
like, say, Louis CK orsomething. You're like, I don't
get it, like, that's so funny.And then you watch them say it,
and of course, they've said it1000 times, 1000 different ways,
and so they know exactly how tosay it such that it works.
You definitely learn how todeliver your jokes in a way that

(18:19):
gives you a higher hit rate, butI think there are still jokes
that can surprise you, that workfor some audiences and don't
work for others. Oh, for sure.Well, how does the so? How do
the videos go? Because that'show I became aware of you. Is
your videos making fun of, like,almost Portlandia level, you
know, where it's almost notfunny, like they're hilarious,

(18:39):
but sometimes you're like, Okay,no, that's that guy like that.
That's that I know him,

Alexis Gay (18:47):
right? You're like, I'm pretty sure she made that
video about my coworker. Yeah.Well, those videos I started
making during the pandemicbecause I was living alone in a
studio apartment working for myfavorite tech company I've ever
worked for, which is a companycalled Patreon. And that was the
job in which I was managingseven people, which means, as

(19:09):
all managers during peaklockdown can relate to, I mean
the emotional energy you areextending to make sure that the
people whose careers you have inyour hands are doing okay, took
up a lot of my time, and I thatwas the right use of time, and
that was the right use ofenergy, but it left me really
drained at the end of the day,and living in a studio, and

(19:31):
things were so so locked down inSan Francisco making short
videos, it just felt like a wayfor me to focus on something
else. I love editing so muchthat when I start editing a
video, I'm excited about it'slike I get into have flow state.
Hours will pass. I will notnotice just clicking anything.

(19:51):
And it's so delightful to me.And so I started doing it again
during the pandemic, because Iwas like, I'm going Gracie. And
so I'm.
Made one, and it was silly. Idon't remember what it was. Oh,
I do remember what it was. Oh,god, it's, uh, it was just a
silly video about comediansdoing crowd work. I'm holding my
water bottle as a microphone. Ittook me a couple minutes. I was

(20:12):
like, Okay, I just have to makesomething. I just have to break
the seal on making stuff. I justhave to make something. So I
made something, and then I waslike, Damn, that was really fun.
All right, I'm gonna do thatagain. And so then every week
during the beginning of thepandemic, I was like, Okay, I'm
gonna put out another one. I'mgonna put out another one. And
it wasn't with the desire to beanything or be seen as anything,

(20:35):
or even for the videos to getseen. It was really a way for me
to say, okay, these are, this isdone because as even as a
producer, I'm sure you canrelate, like, there's a moment
where you're like, this canalways get better. It just has
to go out the door. Yep. Ohyeah.

Unknown (20:52):
Well, I mean, I'm not about to quote Reid Hoffman
about if you're not mortallyembarrassed by the first version
of your product too long to shipit. But am I? I I am because
honestly, that is how it canfeel sometimes, where you're
like, No, it has to be perfect.And I think this holds a lot of
people back creatively, and alsoon the tech side of things,
where they're just like, No,it's not perfect yet. And it's
like, Oh, it doesn't matter.Yeah. Well, just got to get

(21:14):
something out the door. And bythe way, the tech industry,
whoever repackages everything,like is, you know, some crazy
new idea in the theater that'scalled opening night, right?
Previews? Yeah. Well, we gotwhatever we got. We're opening
tomorrow night. So, Kent, I hadno idea you were such a theater
guy. This is so fun, like thecoolest venture capitalist
you've ever met now, right?Well, that was what a

(21:34):
competition.

Alexis Gay (21:37):
Sure you can take that spot. Why not?
Yeah. So I just put out a video,and then I did another one, and
then I did another one. And thethe question you asked was
around making fun of tech, andthe truth is that I never set
out to make any particular kindof videos. It's just that I

(21:57):
worked in tech. I lived in SanFrancisco. I was drawing on my
life, and so I made a video inApril of 2020 called every
single party in San Francisco.
It's just something that Ithought I knew I was like, I've
been to parties in SanFrancisco, and here we go. And

(22:17):
I bring up that video becauseyou might be interested to know
that prior to that, I had 900followers on Twitter, and then I
posted that one video, aftermultiple years of posting things
online in various platforms, andthat one video, by the end of
the week it had been posted, Ihad 15,000

Kent Lindstrom (22:37):
Twitter followers because that Video
unlike every video I've everposted before, that point, got 3
million views in a week, whichwas an order of magnitude
greater than the 1100 all timehigh that a Twitter video of
mine had gotten to that point.Do you ever think of that? I
think it is in podcasting. Doyou ever think of that with 3

(22:58):
million people as like, imagineif you were standing at Oracle
park at a sold out show, Alexisshow, right? How many people
that's like, 30,000 peoplelistening to you. Can you? Do
you ever imagine what 3 millionpeople listening to you is, you
know, I think about this a lotactually, because Jack Conte,
CEO and founder of Patreon, whois also a creative he's a

(23:20):
musician and a really coolcontent creator, and I really
loved working for him, he talksabout this when it comes to
visualizing how many clicks andviews and likes and all that are
coming from people. Because whenyou start to post things that
get a lot of views relative tothe average person, you may even
start to feel disappointed whenyou're like, it's only 40,000

(23:42):
views, right? Right? 40,000views. Think of this Madison
Square Garden, right? Thinkabout it, right. So, yes, I do
try to contextualize that, yeah,yeah, because then you go and
you, I mean, think about atheater, like, with 400 people.
Like, that's pretty cool. That'slike, 400 people. What is funny
about tech got, like, there's alittle bit of, like,

(24:04):
schadenfreude, or that word,like, I was at a, I went to a,
like, an open mic thing, like,not to perform, but as, like, a
audience member, as, like, at abrewpub, right? So it's that,
it's not like the super highlevel. It's like, whoever
decides to sign up and like, Idon't know, I sit in the light
the right way, or I looked likesomething or whatever. But every
single person who came up anddecided to do crowd work Pick

(24:26):
me, like, over and over again,right? And, of course, you know
how this goes right. Like, whatdo you do? Yeah, finish your
capitalist like, Ah, this guy,right? Like, every single one.
What the hell is it? Yeah. Like,what is funny about tech people?

Alexis Gay (24:43):
How big was the open mic you were at? It

Kent Lindstrom (24:47):
was like 50 people. They say that like this,
so it's like 50 people,something like that. Were you
wearing a polo? Yeah, like Iwas, it was, it was that. And I
actually think, like, the waythe lighting was, like, the
light was just shining on me. Iwas just in secret.
Kind of Yeah, and they're like,Oh, look at that guy and that
guy, yeah, yeah. But everysingle one well, and you know

(25:07):
what's coming. And you know,when you say you're a venture
capitalist, you just know it'sgonna be like, Ah, this gives a
jet parked out and the thing,or, you know, I don't know,
totally not a trade comedian, soI don't know the joke, but it's
that. No, I like that. I likethat. Oh, I didn't know if I had
private jet parking here wouldbe

Alexis Gay (25:24):
okay. So what's funny about tech is kind of a
different question to why makefun of tech,
or why do people find it fun oreasy or interesting to make fun
of tech. I can say for myself itwas born from it being truly my

(25:45):
experience and my way to makefun of me. Yeah, a lot of the
videos I'm making fun of myself,I would hear myself say these
things and just be like, Oh mygod, Alexis, come on. And I
would hear my friends say it, mycoworker people, I liked this.
The, you know, a commonmisconception, I think, is I

(26:07):
loved my time in the techindustry. Yeah, I loved it.
We're not offended, by the way,or I'm not offended, of course,
that I wasn't making fun ofanother group of people I was
making fun of myself. Yeah, thiswasn't like
these tech guys like, it wasn'tthat vibe at all. It was truly
like, oh my god, I can't believeI just said unprecedented times
again in a business meeting, youknow? Like, I can't, I cannot

(26:30):
believe those words havecontinued to come out of my
mouth, right? And so
at the time, it was just, thisis stuff I know about, and this
is what I will, what I'll write.Obviously, it's super classic
phrase write which you know, youknow I will say, though, by the
way, of percentage wise, of allthe videos I've put on the

(26:50):
internet, only half are tech orbusiness related.
Oh, really, yes, interesting.That was an intentional choice
on my part to do other stuff.Yes, actually, even in the week
following that video, when everysingle party in San Francisco
got all those views, I was like,I'm not going to make another
video about tech or SanFrancisco because I don't want

(27:13):
to limit myself creatively orartistically. And I worked at
patreon for three years, so Iwas around a lot of independent
creators of all kinds,comedians, podcasters, artists,
musicians, etc. And I've seenthe way that algorithms
encourage
artistic flattening, or creativeflattening in order to go viral

(27:37):
or get more views or get moreengagement, because obviously
these algorithms are designed tosay, Oh, you liked this. We'll
show you more this over and overand over again, right? And so I
was afraid that if I only madecontent, a word we can discuss
about tech, I would just only beable to do that forever, and
then I would attract people whoonly wanted to hear that, yeah.

(28:00):
And I kind of knew, even in thatearly, even this is during that
over four years ago, I was like,What if one day I don't want to
make jokes about the techindustry, right? And so I
decided to just broaden a littlebit so that, and oftentimes the
videos that have gone most viralare the ones that are about
tech. But honestly, now thehighest viewed video I've ever

(28:22):
had has nothing to do with thetech industry. I mean, it's four
years later, but I that was anintentional choice on my part,
so that as I continue to grow inmy career, I have a little bit
more optionality. Yeah, well, Ithink there's some universal
themes too, right? That thesuper self important boss, or
the person who's a venturecapitalist, so they're an expert
in, you know, the pandemic. Andthen it doesn't matter where you

(28:44):
work, everybody knows a personwho thinks they're an expert in
everything, right? And you canoftentimes, VCs, by the way,
they see themselves in what I'mmaking, even if the video is not
about venture capitalists. Oh,believe me, venture capitalists
are the main character in theirshape. They believe it. Yeah,
100% Hey, hey, look, some of myfriends are VCs. Okay, I can say

(29:06):
that. You know what VCs? VCs aredoing just fine. Like you don't
need to defend anybody. They'redoing fine. What do you make of
I'll give you a couple termslike that are big in Silicon
Valley. I don't know what tomake of these. What do you make
of the term tech bro? It seemslike a very particular

Kent Lindstrom (29:24):
nasty stab at people.
I shouldn't What do you make ofthe term tech bro? Take two
without the commentary. Sorryabout that. You're like your
honor.
I'll restate the question so asnot to lead the witness. That's
some bad podcasting there. Sorryabout that, but yeah, let me
well,

Alexis Gay (29:45):
a tech, a tech bro, and what do I make of the term?
It's definitely
in today, and we'll timestampthis. This is 2024,
it's definitely levied as aninsult. It's definitely.
A negative if you are referredto as a tech bro, I don't think
there is a positive connotationwith that. I think it's actually

(30:08):
intended to speak to thehomogeneity of the tech industry
more than anything else. So itkind of reminds me of the way
that people call
certain types of women basic,like, oh they're basic,
or oh they're a tech Pro. It'ssort of like writing someone off
as the stereotypical tech broarchetype. So I would say that

(30:31):
means, like, maybe referring tohow they dress or how they talk,
or what they care about. I don'tthink it's like particularly
derisive, but I do think thatit's just sort of intended as a
write off. Yeah, and on theother side, not that, not the
kind of write offs that areusually being talked about on
this podcast. But you know whatI mean, right? Come on. It's not
that bad.

Kent Lindstrom (30:52):
What? Good Lord, this isn't like the
tax write offs. Come on. Oh myGod, look, there are some
podcasts, some venture capitalpodcast,
you know, somewhere like eightyears ago, the the the one too
many podcasts happened in thisworld. I have to say, yep, um,
what do you make of the termgirl boss? Like you go by girl

(31:15):
boss or not? Girl boss? Is thata thing anymore?

Alexis Gay (31:20):
Well, I think the term Girlboss showed up in the
zeitgeist. What do you think2020

Kent Lindstrom (31:28):
12, 2014 ish really isn't speaking something
like that. Yeah.

Alexis Gay (31:35):
I think different terms and different movements
played in like different rolesat different moments in time and
at different moments in theindustry, and they may have like
served a purpose and run theircourse. And it doesn't make them
necessarily. It doesn't meanthat they were always bad or
always good. It just means thatwe don't need them in a way that
we used to. And I think a girlboss like this because 23 I

(31:58):
started my career professionallyin 2013 meaning that that's when
I graduated from college andcollege, and I think that the
tech industry specifically, buteven corporate America has, as a
whole, has changed a lot in thelast decade in terms of how
women are viewed and talkedabout. And I'm not saying
everything was bad and noweverything is good, but I think

(32:18):
at the time, girl boss was a wayto
find community and empowermentin being a woman in a space
where there aren't a lot ofwomen, but now in 2024
there are a lot of women, and incertain industries, that's not
true. So I'm not trying to saythat every industry has 5050
equality, or even that everyindustry should or needs to, but

(32:38):
I do think that now, 10 yearslater, Girlboss has become a
term that feels old to me. Itfeels irrelevant. It feels like
a sweater that doesn't fitanymore. It's like, oh, I don't
need this, right? And I've neverreally thought of myself
in that way, but I think that'smore function of like, my age,
and then where I am in theindustry, what, sorry, my age,
and then where I was in mycareer at the time when that

(33:01):
came out, yeah, with like,Sheryl Sandberg, where you're
like, Well, I don't know, she'sjust the boss, boss, right?
She's worth

Kent Lindstrom (33:08):
how I have felt. She's over $6 billion yeah,
exactly, yeah. Do you get intothe any I'll ask you one more
thing about the
tech industry, and then we gotto move on to this amazing
comedy crew. You have the, whatdo you make the Well, you're in
New York now. So, oh, here's afunny one, the work ethic in New
York versus San Francisco. Haveyou heard this one?

(33:31):
Have I heard the work work ethicthing? So there's a whole, a
whole thing now. Oh, see, you'renot tapped in anymore. There's a
whole, let me hear it. So thewhole thing is that people in
tech and San Francisco work wayharder than people in tech in
New York. And the implication iskind of that they're because
they're losers, right? Like NewYork, like they're good looking

(33:53):
and they can there's so much todo in New York, yeah, and since
there's nothing to do in SanFrancisco and everyone's kind of
not that cool, anyway, they workmuch harder, and therefore you
should invest in San Francisco.That's the that's the okay. That
feels like a change from what Iused to think about the work
ethic between the two coasts. Doyou agree? Yes, because New York

(34:14):
was famous for investmentbankers who worked like but also
my tech career in New York and Ifelt like we worked way harder
than when I got to SanFrancisco. And people were like,
Oh, I'm working from home. It'sraining. I think that's always
been,
it's, I just think it's a funnyspin, because it's always been
the thing that people in NewYork work super, super hard, and
people in California, you know,it's a cliche, but hey, man, the

(34:36):
sun's shining. Well, okay, butI'm also curious, because
you're, you're an investor, andso I are founders telling you
this, are they? Like, look, Ilive in San Francisco. I've got
nothing going on. I'm full timeon this. It's a Twitter meme.
That's all, no, I mean, founder,people work hard in New York,
and people are lazy in LosAngeles and work hard in Los

(34:57):
Angeles, or lazy. And, you know,it comes down the price.
Person. I thought that was afunny one. And the last one,
something else that's emergedlately is our people have gotten
political in Silicon Valley,which they never, yeah, they
never used to. I would neverhear anything from anybody. And
if you heard anything, it was,how much, how, you know, is
Barack Obama amazing or doubleamazed? Like, you know, would be

(35:18):
the argument, like, is he superamazing, super amazing. And now
a couple of big venturecapitalists have come out, and
they're going after each otheronline, like and they don't all
agree on who the perfect person.What do you think about you
observed this at all?Absolutely. It's pretty
fascinating.

Alexis Gay (35:41):
What do I think about it? Yeah, you always have
to get a lawyer for this one,right? Um, just like, what's,
what do I think about it? Ithink it's, uh,
well, honestly, I think it'sfascinating. I really do because
it, it makes you wonder what themotivation is. Why the change,
like you said, this didn't usedto be the case, and so it does

(36:03):
make you sort of go, why? Whythe change? Why now? Why this
particular set of people? And itmakes me think about the role
that the internet plays in thedecision. Because without a,
you know, a platform likeTwitter, we're probably not
seeing as much of these opinionscome out in the way that we are

(36:24):
now, right, because Twitter hasalways been such a leader in
group thing. But lately, it alsoseems like Twitter, and this is
something I have felt. I don'tknow if you feel this way. I'd
love to hear if you do. In thelast year, it really has become
so much less enjoyable to be onTwitter like it, just the
platform itself has not felt asgood to be on. Is that just me

(36:44):
and my feed? I don't know. Ifollow a very specific group of
people, you know, and so, so thething about Twitter is, like, if
you're not following somesomewhere in there, you're
following something that isn'tworking. Okay? I think maybe we
should compare following, andyou can help me maybe clean,
clean up. I just think, I mean,you've got to take, I take
Twitter is it's a place whereyou just go to dunk on your

(37:05):
enemies, but you don't take it,you don't take it very
seriously, right? Like, youthink you've, you think you've
done your work for the day. I'mlike, I was a really good retort
I had there, and then move onwith your day. Well, okay,
that's interesting. I yeah, Ithink that it's become a way
politics, like everything, hasjust become another. It's become
another way to say, like, Thisis who I am, this is what I

(37:27):
stand for. Yeah,
curious to see if thatcontinues, and how that
continues. Yeah, I think itcouldn't be the case that 100%

Kent Lindstrom (37:38):
of people anywhere in the world or the
country, all all thought thesame party. I just use that
term, same party was, was right.Like that can't possibly be the
case. So there must have beensome people who didn't agree,
but they didn't have permissionto do it. And so some people are
billionaires and don't actuallygive a crap. There is no
backlash, or they can't getfired. And so that's the

(37:58):
category. People did it. Andthen I think somewhere around
six months ago, and I kind ofthink it was around when that
whole thing started happeningwith the universities. And the
Yeah, yes, that has theuniversities, somebody or a
couple people said,
The King has no clothes, likeone or two people said, you
know, maybe there's anotherpoint of view here. Yeah. And it

(38:21):
just turned out there were a fewpeople who were like, yeah. You
know what? That doesn't lookright to me either. And I think
that's what happens. You had acombination of people going,
Okay, enough is enough on one ortwo topics, and then a few
people being so rich, like theycould say what they wanted to
say. And then when once one ortwo people makes it okay, then
the groundswell of supportbehind it can follow, yeah, and

(38:42):
it's just fun to watch thebillionaires kind of being
bored, going after each other.So, so, so, you know. So now
where does the so the stand upalongside these videos, the
stand up is evolving, andsomewhere along the line you get
like, is it terrible the first10 times? Or is there a is there
a similar thing where you hadthat one video that hit, is
there one night where you'relike, I got it, like, I'm good,

(39:05):
or,

Unknown (39:07):
Oh,

Alexis Gay (39:08):
I will. Let's see. Was there one specific night?
You know, I just the mostvulnerable part of doing stand
up comedy, being a comedianprofessionally. And this is true
of my videos. This is true ofstand ups. To everything I do is
that I have to continue to putmy work and myself out there and
show you all what I'm capable ofright now, even though I know as

(39:32):
I continue, I will get better.
And so with stand up it can beso vulnerable to get on stage
and give it 110%
knowing that my 110% today is somuch lower than where the
ceiling is going to be in ayear, or in two years or three
years, hopefully, if I keepgoing and keep working hard and
so I don't I haven't ever reallyfelt like, oh, okay, now I'm

(39:56):
good. I think I used to beworse.
Yes, for sure. Yeah, you know.And I think that'll always be
true. I will always used to havebeen worse, like I said, I don't
think you can expect to be goodat something without being okay.
And you can't be okay untilyou've been bad, and that sort
of is what it is. And also, eventhe best comedians still have
challenging nights. They stillbomb. It depends on a lot of

(40:18):
factors, for sure, but I thinkthat some of them are so far
along. Didn't mean to interruptyou, not a great intake the
podcast interviewer, breath,inhale. Oh, yeah. Where it's
like, it's the I have aquestion.

Kent Lindstrom (40:33):
You're too good at this, but you do see some
people like, it's like, youknow, Dave Chappelle, or
somebody where they've got anaudience, and you could just
tell they're like, I could loseyou. I could say anything. I
could do it. I could sit hereand smoke for five minutes and I
can get you back. I can get youback like, I've just, you know,
I've just got this. Steve Martinwould be one of those who could

(40:55):
just, no, they've done it 40,000times. Yeah, right, yeah. You
could get things. And so isthis? What is the feeling when
it like, when it doesn't work,when it works, when you're doing
stand up? Well, obviously I, Imy number of years doing this
absolutely pales in comparisonto either of those comedians.

(41:15):
And so I can only speak to myown. But when it

Alexis Gay (41:22):
you know, I don't know that I would say that I'm
motivated to do stand up,because I really, I love
building things like I reallyfind it fun to build this
career, and I love to createthings that didn't exist before.
On the smallest scale, thatmight be a video. On the largest
scale, it could be the hour showI'm working on right now, and I

(41:42):
get a lot of satisfaction fromgetting better. And so I don't,
I try not to really take takeany individual performance too
seriously or too heavily,because I think of it, I
visualize everything on a graph,like on a chart. And so, you
know, one night might be a twoout of 10, the next night might
be a 2.7 out of 10, and then thenext one is a one out of 10,

(42:05):
okay, but then if, over time, ifour if our line is still going
up into the right, like on thewhole then I'm happy. And so I
really try to think about, like,just continuing, and, of course,
continuing to get better and getfunnier in a lot of different
ways. But, yeah, you know, whenit goes great, it goes great.

(42:26):
When it doesn't go great, you'rekind of like that, alrighty. I
always think about, well,there's another one, and this is
your your thing, right? You'renot like, going to auditions,
right? Like somebody's gonnahire you or not hire you like,
you just build it like. That'sactually why? You know, I really
love acting. I mean, obviously,right? I wanted to do it for so
long, and I take, like, anactor's approach to my sketches.

(42:48):
To be totally honest, there's,like, a lot it should look easy.
I want it to look easy. I wantit to feel easy. I want it to be
all enjoyable. That's it. That'swhy you're not going to see me
posting, like, back on my grind,like, I want to just enjoy the
comedy. Nobody cares all of asudden, right? Nobody cares.
Yeah, nobody cares. And Ihonestly think it takes away
from the finished product forme. Because what I want is for

(43:10):
everything you watch my videosor listen to my podcast or come
to my show, I want it to be purejoy. Like my labor of love for
the audience is that I will workmy ass off to make it great, and
then all I want you to worryabout is showing up and having a
nice time. Yeah, and how is soyou did the Fringe Festival. So
people don't know what thefringe is in Edinburgh,

Kent Lindstrom (43:29):
they So there used to be an arts festival, and
a bunch of people figured out,even if they weren't part of the
Arts Festival, there's a bunchof arts fans at this in
Edinburgh, and they would justgo do stuff around the fringe of
this festival, just perform, youknow, Shakespeare, but it's in
Weimar, Germany, or, you know,whatever it was. And then that

(43:50):
thing became bigger than thething, and so now it's the
Fringe Festival in Edinburgh. Soit's just a huge international
festival of of the arts for 60or 70 years, and it this year
featured over 3000 shows, and soyou were one of the performers.
How was that like? How did thatgo?

Alexis Gay (44:11):
It's like the Edinburgh Fringe was made for
someone like me to be totallyhonest. Because you do your
show, if you're doing a full runat the fringe, you do your show
25 times. And so unlike a normalfestival where it's like four
days and there's programming,and you perform once or twice,
you're putting up your showevery single day, you get one
day off, typically, for 25 days,yeah. And what I loved about

(44:34):
that is my goal was to bring theshow and make it better, and the
only way I know how to do thatwell, the most important way to
do that is to just do it overand over and over again. Yep.
And so I did my show every dayfor an hour, 25 times, 24 times,
and
now it's a lot better. Wait.Hang on, your show's an hour.

(44:56):
Yeah, yeah. It's a solo show.It's so it's called um, for.

Kent Lindstrom (45:00):
Professional that's really like my
understanding of comedy. Well,I'm a venture capitalist. I'm an
expert in comedy. I guess is
that it's really hard to do,like five minutes and then, but
you do it, and then 20 minutesis super hard, but an hour seems
like a lifetime.

Alexis Gay (45:17):
You know, it all seems like a lifetime until you
do it. I will say that, but theshow itself is a it's a solo
show, so it's a comedy, but ithas like a narrative arc to it.
My role models for this showare, like, microbial for
example. I don't know if you'rea fan of his, but yeah, his
shows are very funny, butthere's, like, sometimes there's
a central theme or a centralstory, and so my show is very

(45:39):
much inspired by that specificart form. So, yeah, it's a
comedy, but it's not the same asputting together like a stand up
hour. All right? Oh yeah. Jabmullini stole your bit. He was
here in San Francisco making funof tech people.

Kent Lindstrom (45:54):
Oh yeah, I'll have to have Yeah, yeah. Oh,
they're probably getting paidmore than you.
Hey. Well, Dreamforce, he soldout. You didn't.

Alexis Gay (46:04):
Whoa, right? Coming in hot, I would

Unknown (46:08):
never disclose my finances on the pod. Oh, my God,
I'm I'm just speculating thatJohn Lillian is a little bit
further ahead than you, butyou'll get there. Okay, I guess,
technically, subjectivelyspeaking, he is, no, of course,
he is my all time favorites?Yeah, he's incredible. Am I
making you sweat? I'm notoffended.

Kent Lindstrom (46:26):
I am. He did Stefan. You know,
he wrote that character. So asyou look forward to what you're
doing now, you are a full timecomedian, which just seems
crazy. What are the what are thething, products? What are the
thing is, is the stand up thething, or is the, are the videos

(46:47):
going to continue to be thething, or are you going to move
into something else, likemovies, TV, like, what's the
what's the thing you're going tobuild?

Alexis Gay (46:58):
What's the thing I'm going to build?
I would say,
Well, I sort of look at thingsand hope maybe you'll relate to
this. But like a portfolio, Imean,
I am building a body of work,and that body of work started

(47:20):
with short form sketch contentonline and a podcast, and now
the hour,
and I could see it growing in anumber of ways. There's a really
iterative approach to what I do,and I try to build somewhat
slowly so that I can bethoughtful about it. And also in
entertainment, this helpsbecause, and like tech, it helps

(47:41):
you stay scrappy and able towork with limited resources. And
so I could see my career goingin a number of different
directions. There are things I Iwork on, there are things that I
really want to make that aremuch bigger than just a 59
second video or even than a onehour show, and I'm excited to
keep working toward that. But Idon't think of it as like, oh,

(48:03):
what's the thing I'm going tobuild? I think of it as like,
well, these are the things I ambuilding, and ultimately, they
all make me better and allinform each other. Isn't it
funny that this is the way?Like, if you in some other time,
you would have just auditionedfor years and years, right? And
to become part of somebodyelse's thing. But you're
already, like, kind of beyondthat. You're like, you've got

(48:25):
your own, like, here's my ownthing, and you can come see my
own thing. You can pay me for myown thing. And, yeah, it's kind
of like, not as much as JohnMulaney, but we don't know that
neither one of you told me whatyou mean, good night or confirm
or deny. I mean, are you whatyou're touching on, by the way,
is exactly why I love comedy,and even though I love love
acting, and why I consider someof what I do acting, for sure, I

(48:49):
don't desire to have thelifestyle or career of an
actress, because there's so muchtime spent waiting to be chosen,
whereas in comedy, you don'thave to wait for that. You get
to do it yourself. And maybethere's more risk, and there's
definitely a lot more back endwork, and there's definitely a
lot more spreadsheets whenyou're self producing stuff, or
when you're working with, youknow, one producer, but I get to

(49:10):
do it myself, which is reallyrewarding, and really it's
really satisfying to be like,cool. This used to not exist.
That's I feel aboutunprofessional. This used to not
exist, and now it does. So let'sfinish up by telling people
about the show. I mean, you're,you're going on the road, like,
what's going on here? This isincredible. You're doing an hour
of comedy, which we'veestablished is hard to do, but

(49:30):
you've done it. You've done itsuccessfully at the Edinburgh
Fringe. And what's you you'regoing on tour. I am going on
tour. The show unprofess Aboutmy biggest professional failure.
It is an hour long comedic soloshow. I premiered it in New York
in March. I did one. We actuallysold out in New York. We sold
out in San Francisco. When I didmy premiere there. Did a show in

(49:53):
London. Then I took it to thefringe, good old fringe, and now
it is ready to go on tour. SoI'm going to.
San Francisco, Seattle, LosAngeles, Austin, Washington, DC,
Boston and New York. This in q4the q4 tour, that is kind of
incredible. How do you get howare you gonna get around? You
fly around. You have a van.Like, what's the like, what's

(50:15):
the thing? I thought you weregonna take me in your jet. Yeah,
exactly.

Kent Lindstrom (50:20):
Do I have a van? No, no. It's, it's a, it's a
small operation. You know, thisis so, yeah, I will fly. It's a.
I have a good flight path. Thisis so exciting. So what, how
should people, what do you like?What do you when you're done?
What does it feel like if itworked? Is it that just sold out

(50:41):
shows everywhere and Netflixcalls you up and says, Hey, we
need a we need you to do ourspecial Do you want the real
answer? It's kind of boring.
Could you do one that's kind oflike a fake one that you make up
that's really exciting?

Alexis Gay (50:55):
Yeah, after the tour, I'm gonna be a big star.
I'm kidding. What's the answer?I'm gonna give you the boring
answer. The boring answer isthat I see, and because I think
the people listening to yourpodcast, if we still have them,
by the way, if they have not yetdropped off, which I Who knows,
who knows, they tuned inexpecting to hear from the
founder of like, some wraparoundlayer to open AI, and now

(51:19):
instead, they're listening to acomedian talk about my tiny
tour. But here's the boringanswer to what happens next?
Okay, I see three paths after Itake the show on tour. I want to
film it in some capacity. Ithink of there being three paths
forward to do that. One, yes.Best case scenario, some

(51:39):
streamer or distributionplatform is like, hell yeah,
this show sold out. It's wholetour. Alexis is great. We are
going to both produce it anddistribute it. That would be
best case scenario. Scenariotwo, someone is like, hell yeah,
we will distribute it after itgets produced. Or someone is
like, we'll produce it and thenwe sell that to a distributor,
to a streamer. And then optionthree, which is definitely the

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least exciting and flashy, is, Iwill front the money. I will
produce it, and then I'll selfdistribute it. I'm not going to
let not being able to partnerwith a producer or a streamer
prevent me from putting it out.Because my fear is, if I do
that, then how long will I waitto get it out the door, to get
it into a place where, wheremore people can see it. And I
feel artistically, it isimportant for it to go out in

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large scale so that I can moveon and work on the next thing,
the stuff I talk about in theshow took place in 2016
and 2017
in my heart, that feels so longago. I love the show. I'm proud
of the show. I love performingit. It's really fun. It's really
satisfying. I love havingconversations with people after
the show, hearing about theirexperiences. And I am really

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excited about what I make afterthis. It's probably not gonna be
about the tech industry. Yeah,yeah. You probably didn't sound
like this excited when you wereworking in tech. You don't know
that I loved my tech job,
making assumptions about me.Ken, come on. No, I loved it. I
absolutely loved my jobs. That'sthe thing is that I loved my job

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at Patreon. The only thing thatwas going to take me away. I
mean, I ran the Creatorpartnerships team, and I built
the business operations team,one go to market, what I get to
work with creative people andwork in Microsoft Excel like,
what a thrilling, dual capacityjob, but this was more exciting
to me, and so I just feel likeit's important for me to work on

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things that I feel like anyonethat I feel excited about. But I
really did love my my job in thetech world. Well, you did find
the one cooler job? I did findthe one cooler Well, no, I mean,
that'll be my third act as aventure capitalist.

Kent Lindstrom (53:42):
Good Lord. Well, this has been I'm so glad we did
this. How do people find you?And specifically now, right?
They should be finding yourshow. Yeah, finding the show.
I'll make it easy. You can go towww dot, Alexis dot gay, and you
can find all the tour dates andtickets. And otherwise you can
find me wherever you go on theinternet, at yay. Alexis gay,
this is great. Well, thanks somuch for doing this. This has

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been the something venturedpodcast. Alexis gay, my guest,
talk to You next. Thank you.Kent Lindstrom,