February 27, 2024 • 45 mins
When Tracey Hnat decided to homeschool her daughter Nilah Lois, little did she know it would become a harmonious journey of creativity and learning. Their story isn't just about textbooks and grades; it's a melody of educational freedom and artistic expression that we unwrap in our latest episode. Tracey and Nilah share their experiences with non-traditional schooling methods, the nuances of online education, and the vibrant fusion of music and language learning that has become a hallmark of their lives. We delve into Tracey's own musical past and how it has influenced Nilah's diverse creative endeavors, all while exploring the local music scene and their teaching gigs at the Groove Shack.
Have you ever wondered what alchemy occurs when life's experiences are transmuted into soul-stirring music? Our guest artist, part of the mother-daughter duo Violent Chimes, joins us to reveal her multifaceted life, balancing pottery, yoga, and music. Their partnership isn't just about hitting the right notes; it's a testament to the profound connection they share, fueling their creative outputs. Our conversation traverses the intricacies of songwriting, the exhilarating yet serene experience of live performance, and the significant impact of timing in their art. This episode is a heartfelt narrative for anyone striving to navigate the intertwined paths of creativity and daily life.
Transitioning from strings to ink, we discuss the enthralling world of bug pinning and the deeply personal stories behind tattoos. These narratives of intricate hobbies and expressive body art open a window into our guests' passions and how they tie into community and identity. We tackle the heavy chords of teenage relationships and the haunting beauty of gothic aesthetics in music, before shifting to the lighter notes of yoga's role in managing the omnipresent stress in today's youth, particularly amid the pressures of social media. Tune in for an episode that, like a well-composed symphony, strikes a chord with the powerful bonds of family and the timeless dance of creativity.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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So we have Tracy Mat and NylaLois in the studio today.
Welcome, ladies, thanks forhaving us.
Yes, absolutely, you guys arekind of.
(00:23):
I mean, nyla, you have yourmusic career on your own, but
you guys also do it together attimes.
And then, tracy, you are a yogainstructor and an artist as
well, what a wonderful dynamicand Tracy you've been
(00:43):
homeschooling Nyla for all herlife, since third grade.
Oh, okay.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Yeah, she went to the Montessori school, okay, from
pre-K to first or second, andthen I homeschooled her.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
What made you decide to go that route?
Speaker 3 (01:00):
She's super creative and I felt like it wasn't really
being I don't know.
I just felt like she needed tohave some more creativity time,
and so I took her out and it wasreally the best thing I ever
did.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
I have to agree, I'm.
Yeah, I also think abouthomeschooling.
I did it for my daughter duringthe pandemic.
But I'd like to hear from youlike, how is it going?
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Well, I mean it's going good.
Currently I do a lot of onlineschooling and.
I've gone to some likehomeschool groups, like pods, I
guess, kind of like that.
I've gone to like the EcoVerity, other homeschool groups,
but recently I've been doingmore online stuff.
(01:48):
But I just do on my own and Ilike that better.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
What grade are you actually in right?
Now Currently in 11th 11thgrade and you just turned 17.
Very nice.
And so these pods like allowyou to have like a social life
too.
Oh yeah, that's like the numberone thing, yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Right Number one misconception.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Yeah, and do you have any friends that go to public
school?
Speaker 2 (02:10):
All my friends go to public school.
All of them, yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
And like, what do you guys like decipher about it?
Like are they jealous that youhad to do it on your own?
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Not really.
They all get a taste of itduring the pandemic.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Oh, that's right yeah .
Speaker 2 (02:25):
It really depends on if you're self-motivated to.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Right, which you totally are For the most part
yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
For the most part, that's a big thing.
Yeah, definitely it is.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
And, are you like, ahead of schedule, because
you're able to do homeschooling.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
It depends on what I have planned for the week.
Sometimes I because I do haveobviously due dates to get
stuff- done.
And I'll either like if I havea really busy week with other
activities like music, then Imight have my schooling linger a
little bit Okay.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
But you're kind of on track.
Yeah, because I'm not reallydoing it whenever she's actually
here you are ahead.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
I'm definitely ahead she does a dual enrollment, so
she actually takes collegecourses.
So she's in her second semester, third semester of dual
enrollment, I believe.
So she's a little ahead andthrough homeschooling she speaks
fluent French.
What?
Because it was able to reallydo all of her music and writing
(03:25):
and putting everything out onSpotify and all the platforms
and everything.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Yeah, which I think.
Well, that's likeentrepreneurship, right?
Yeah, totally.
But the French thing like yeah,we've been taking.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
French for like five, six years.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Just five and six years, and now you're fluent.
Yeah, I tried to get mydaughter to do that as soon as
she was born, and it kind offell off.
How did you guys manage to?
Speaker 3 (03:52):
We have an amazing French teacher.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
It's Laurent's and she's from Paris and so we just
do conversational friends withher.
We used to be twice a week, nowit's once a week, but we've
been to Paris and we've traveleda lot.
That's amazing.
So we get around and it is hard.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
And when you're over there.
It's slang and it's a littledifferent, Right and is that
lady here in town?
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Yeah, cool, is she taking on other?
Speaker 3 (04:20):
I'll ask her, but she probably would.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Awesome yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
She's awesome, she's incredible.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Cool.
So the whole music thing, Tracy, is it a family tradition to be
a musician or did it start withyou?
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Well, so in my I started playing the violin when
I was three, and so my parentsgot me into the violin and all
that stuff.
But I just kind of did it forfun and I got into piano and
then guitar singing, all thatstuff.
And then I had some friends ask, after I had Nyla, if I could
help them learn violin and stuff.
And so that's kind of where thewhole teaching started.
(04:57):
And then I had students at thehouse.
I had a lot of students and wedid recitals and Nyla
accompanied all of my students,which was really cool, and then
it just kind of started thereLike it was just an environment
of music.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
That's really cool.
That's really cool Surroundingand both of you have taught at
the groove shout.
Are you guys still there?
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Are you still there?
I am still there.
She's subbed sometimes.
Okay, I love the groove shack.
They're great, I know, I know.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
And now they have sort of spin-dots into the Casa
Bonita.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Yes, yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
The Dolly's Wine Bar, which is really, really amazing
.
It's amazing.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
You guys have been there.
I have been there, yeah, nyla.
I have not been there yet,Erica the owner, brock's wife,
asked us to sing there at somepoint, so we'll probably be
doing some live music there.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Yeah, it's a very nice venue.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
It's got a good vibe.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
It has a great vibe.
It's yeah.
Okay, let's go back to youplaying violin at three.
How did you get a violin atthree?
Oh gosh.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
So it's called, it's a Suzuki method and it's Dr
Suzuki and basically it's.
You know, you start you likewith a little box, like box
violin you know, so you learnhow to hold it and just kind of
start you really young.
So it's just second nature.
So like playing the violin isjust second nature, really
that's crazy Because I startedso young, but it's a hard
instrument.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Yeah, it is.
How did your parents sort ofknow to do that?
Like, are they creative too?
Speaker 3 (06:30):
They are in their own way.
They're not musical.
Okay, so what my mom had, Nilagives my her grandmother ukulele
lessons.
And so she she loves music,they love music.
And I feel like my dad can sing.
I actually heard him sing a fewtimes.
It's got a pretty good voiceyeah.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
But yeah, it just kind of Devolved itself, yeah,
and so being so young was just,I think, really important with
you know starting, yeah, andabsolutely.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Yeah, Nila.
What is it like to be a 17 yearold musician?
I mean, not a lot of kids getthat opportunity, have the
talent for it.
How do you?
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Yeah, I mean, since I would go.
I used to go to the group shacka lot.
I was mostly surrounded by kidsthat play music.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Okay, so it's not.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
I've never really thought about that before when
it's like to be a musician.
But I mean, I couldn't imaginenot doing it, not doing it.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Yeah, how do you get inspiration for your lyrics?
Do you write your own?
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Yeah, all the lyrics I write on my own and the
inspiration definitely variesSometimes.
It's always inspired fromthings that happen in my life,
but it comes in waves.
I'll just like randomly get anidea for a line, write it down
and then keep going, and thensometimes I have a whole song
(07:56):
planned out.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Do you ever get jitters to go on stage, or does
it just feel so natural to you?
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Really that's amazing .
Speaker 3 (08:05):
I've never seen her nervous get up on stage.
Really no.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
You remember when I had my math test?
Speaker 3 (08:11):
She gets nervous for math tests, but not performing.
I feel her live performancesare just even better than her
recorded performances.
I mean, she's just incredible.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
How many albums have you recorded?
Or is it just songs that yourecord?
Speaker 2 (08:29):
I don't know, how many things I've released.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Like over oh my gosh, how many.
So you have like four albums,five albums EP, yeah, so five
songs on each EP, and then she'sgot a bunch of singles.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
But I've written like many more.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Many more I have not sat down and recorded them.
Oh, okay.
So how do you choose what torecord and what not to record?
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Well, whenever I write a song, I'm usually like
obsessed with it for a timeperiod and then if I don't
record it when I'm in thatobsession period then I kind of
just like falls back and getslost and then I'll write another
one, and then if I actuallyrecord that one in the obsession
(09:18):
period.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Okay, so it has to be the right time.
And then, when you two guysperform together, is there a
name you guys go by?
Violent Chimes.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Violent Chimes.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
And then have you guys recorded together?
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Not yet we want to Because.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Violent Chimes is kind of new right.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
It is new.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Yeah, okay, so in the works.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Yeah, so we've, you know, we've written a bunch of
songs together and we just needto, kind of, you know, find the
time.
So I feel like putting the timeinto record is a lot, it's a
lot.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Yeah, where do you?
Speaker 3 (09:58):
guys do that In her room.
Oh, now it's in the music roomwe have a little room, oh nice.
We just record at home andshe's like I mean, she does
incredible sound and everythingfor her own music, right, which
is wild.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Are you going to keep doing that Like what are you
studying?
Are you going to?
Are you?
Speaker 2 (10:16):
going to be a lifelong musician.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Are you going to get into like actually like a
recording studio?
Do you have any ambition to gooutside of Brevard?
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Oh, definitely.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
I'm going to get out of here.
For Ronto.
But, like as far as career wiseand what I want to really do
with my life, it seems to changeevery month.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Really yeah.
Tell me some of the things thatyou like considered.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
One idea was like dermatology, okay.
And then I realized maybe not.
And then I was thinking artanimation, yep, because I draw a
lot.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
She's an incredible artist, like drawing and I mean
Like realism and hard to use.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
But then obviously I've been so wrapped around
music Right Like my whole life.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Why aren't you showing some of your art?
Speaker 2 (11:11):
I actually do have a very small art page.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
It's called Funky Rat Art Okay.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Yeah, how did that name come about?
Speaker 2 (11:22):
I don't really know.
I just had an account and thenI was thinking, hmm, that would
be kind of weird.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
And then I just Funky Rat Art popped up, okay, okay,
so it's out there.
What about, like putting it ingalleries and stuff?
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Yeah, I've never done that, but I think that would be
a very good idea.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
She has a whole collection of these incredible
pottery pieces that she's made.
Oh yeah, you guys do pottery,yeah, which I love.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
You guys have a film in the studio in your house.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Yes, Because I bought some over the holidays.
That's right, yes, and youmentioned that you do have
classes or like private sessions.
Yeah, tell us about that.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
And so just depending on if I'll get like a group.
You know, right now I haveteens, a little group of teens
that come in and work and it'swhat I'm finding.
It's very therapeutic for them.
They're not on their phones,yeah, they're working.
They work the whole time.
They don't even talk, hardlyhow long are the?
Sessions Two hours Okay,sometimes they go a little over.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
And they meet weekly.
Yes, and if somebody wanted todo that with you, you can
contact me.
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Yeah, through Instagram, okay, or you know,
facebook or something, okay, soI, I, because I work at the
group shack too, so my time islike Split it's split.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Right, and then yoga too right, and yoga, yeah, the
yoga garden, which is amazingplace.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
How often are you there?
Tuesday nights and Fridaynights, okay.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
I've seen you do some incredible poses, Nila.
Are you into that too?
She?
Speaker 3 (12:55):
is yeah, and she's amazing at that also.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
You guys have such like a a great sort of bond.
We do.
Can you speak to that?
How did you cultivate that?
Because a lot of times that I'mmy best friend.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
I know.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
We were just.
I mean, how many teenagers saythat about their mothers?
I think you know a lot.
Um, you know, start to rebel orshy away, stay in their room.
How do you keep it together?
Speaker 3 (13:18):
I mean, it's just always been so close and, um,
it's just funny because I feellike, you know, I basically gave
birth to like myself, except10.0.
Upgrade 10.0.
Um, she, she likes everythingthat I like.
We like the same things.
You know, we're and we're.
We just get along really well.
We're always laughing, likethat's that's the best.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Yeah, it's kind of funny that I'll talk about the
stages in life that I'm goingthrough.
My mom was like, oh yeah, whenI was your age, I did the same
thing.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
It's like we have a lot of very similar moments and
experiences.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Oh, my God.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Yeah, we just um, and we're both only children too,
so I don't have any brothers orsisters.
Do you think that has to dowith it?
Because you're not spreadingyourself thin among other
siblings and stuff.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Yeah, and then you?
You, you have friends.
Do they also carry the samerelationship, or do you see that
you and your mother havesomething special?
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Oh, yeah, yeah, you could tell the difference, yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
That's really nice.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Yeah, it's really cool.
Like I, my favorite time iswith her, and especially when
we're creating.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
you know, so would you say it's never been
difficult, or do you?
Speaker 3 (14:24):
guys have times.
We've had difficult moments.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Yeah, oh yeah, it's I mean sure so, nila, I just saw
the sound of music and you knowthe, the 16 year old, going on
17.
She just gets her first kissand everything.
Are you experiencing that Like?
Speaker 3 (14:40):
falling in love.
Yes, have you done that?
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Yeah, have you fallen in love before Once, twice,
many times Um?
Speaker 2 (14:47):
well, I mean, I feel like relationships and
determining like real love canbe very difficult to determine,
especially at such a young ageyeah.
Um, so I'd say currently I'm inlove you are, and yeah, and
mother approved, yeah, okay.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Her boyfriend is very sweet.
He treats her nicely, is it anew relationship?
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Well, seven months.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Oh no, not new at all .
Okay, that's good.
Have you ever come across a ayou know guy that you didn't
approve of that she brought home?
Yes.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
And we've, and we've actually gone through.
You know there's there's a lotthere, um, but you know you have
to work through these thingsand have trust and um just hope
that you know your child makesthe right decision.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
So like as a mother going through that, how did you?
It's very hard.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Yeah, it's like give us some pointers because, oh boy
, um, I mean I okay, so I dofeel like they shouldn't be so
young to have a boyfriend, right, you know, like I feel like
they should wait, maybe havefriends.
But sometimes it just happens,sometimes there's this
(16:03):
connection and they just, youknow, really like each other and
, um, I think you just have tokind of give them the best
advice you can and and hopesthat they will make.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
So you're straight forward with her Very
straightforward we're veryhonest with each other.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Okay, we went through a period of time that was a
little bit rough.
Um, we are currently out ofthat and moving forward and, um,
I think that's normal.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
I think every it's totally normal I mean I went
through.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Every teenager goes through it.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
I went through it too , and it does count how your mom
or dad deal with it because itcould push you to make more
wrong decisions if so honesty isthe best policy.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Yes, okay, and I just safety.
I just want her to be safe.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
So, just letting me know, Nila, did you sort of.
How did you process that?
Like bringing someone home,your mom says I don't like him
so much for you.
How was that for?
Speaker 2 (17:03):
you.
It's very difficult.
I think it's more difficult inmy situation because of how
close me and my mom are.
So it's like it's hard to pickand choose, because you don't
want to hurt someone and thenyou also don't want to hurt the
other person.
So if you like love two peoplewho don't really connect, you
(17:24):
got to, like find ways around it.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Yeah, how long did it take you to sort of know that?
Okay, well, I have to move on.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
So I mean, it's hard to say like how long it really
took, but we kind of, instead ofmoving on, we kind of all just
understood each other's likestance and where we're coming
from.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Okay, and then it just fizzled yeah okay, I think,
with young minds too,understanding what love is.
You know like when you lovesomebody you let them be who
they are.
You know you grow with them.
You know jealousy is like a bigthing, right.
And like you can't, you know,get over, like just the jealousy
(18:08):
, has got to be very carefulwith that.
And so they have to, becausethey're young, they don't
understand Right, and like youhandle things, and so you know,
explaining that right, you knowwhat I mean.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
I know because when you, I remember being young and
in love and now, looking back asan adult, you realize like
maybe it was more of aninfatuation or a rebelling.
You know.
Yeah so that's, veryinteresting.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Yeah, and you know, ultimately like the two people
should really enjoy each other'scompany.
You know when you startfighting and it's not.
You know like you feel bad andhe feels bad, right.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
And it's like not healthy.
Well, also being like a frontwoman of a.
Do you have a band or is it?
Do you just?
Are you a solo artist?
Speaker 2 (18:50):
So I used to be in a band.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
But currently I just do solo stuff.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
But that must be intimidating for you to be in
front of like a whole stage ofpeople and you know jealousy,
ken and Sue.
It takes quite the man to beable to handle that right.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Yeah, me personally.
I have never really dealt withjealousy issues, but I do know
people who have dealt with itand it's very hard for them.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Yeah, it is hard because you know you love, but
then you don't understand whyyou're getting all this Right,
Right, yeah, Okay, moving on,you have like a look.
Where do you get yourinspiration for your look?
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Well, I mean ever since I was like 12, I want to
say I was really into the gothic, more darker look.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Right, which is kind of like opposite of what Tracy
exudes.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Well, the funny thing is, when she was that age, she
was just like oh, really, yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
So my hair was just like this Dark oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
So you're into the gothic?
What sort of brings you to that?
Why do you gravitate towardsthat?
Speaker 2 (20:00):
I really don't know oh really.
I've just always liked darkerthings and it's like a look, but
I feel like it might also be alittle mental.
We've always just like beenmore interested in like darker
creepy, our Tim.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Burton film.
Yeah, I was just gonna saymaybe because you were brought
up watching Tim Burton film.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
We listened to more like moody music.
I don't know it's the overallaura, it's just darker.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
And did that come off in your lyrics too?
Speaker 2 (20:30):
For sure.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Yeah, yeah.
What is like one of yourfavorite songs that you've
written yeah, that you'vewritten that you think our
audience should go listen to.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
I really like my song .
I don't know, okay, and what'sthat about?
Well, it's kind of about notknowing, and it's just like
confused when you're aroundsomeone and you don't really
know, like what you're trying todo or like what they're trying
to tell you.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
It's just overall.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Like misreading people or trying to read.
Emotions are all messed up andthen when you guys write music
together, what is that like?
Like, what kind of themes areyou guys exploring there?
Speaker 3 (21:12):
They're always very emotional.
Like we always like I thinkthat's kind of brings out the
lyrics is the emotion you knowwhen we're going through things
in our lives.
Yeah, and it just.
I think we wrote like two happysongs, one of them like once
yeah, and we resonate more withthe sad stuff.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
It's kind of like for me whenever I write a sad song,
because I remember my grandmawas like why are your songs so
sad?
And I was like, well, I'm notreally.
I don't come off as a very sadperson and I feel like if I
didn't write these songs, maybeI would.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Yeah it's kind of like a therapy.
It's almost like my therapy.
Oh, that is interesting.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Getting it out instead of.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Yeah, you don't come off as sad and like.
This is my first time actuallylike having a conversation with
you and you know, when you lookat you you're obviously in
Gothic mode and that's sad.
But you're not a sad child atall.
You're a happy child and not achild.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Young lady, she's still a child.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Okay, cool.
So you guys have been to Paris.
Where else have you traveled?
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Switzerland.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Yeah, switzerland we go to.
So she was born out in PortlandOregon.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Oh really.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
So we go out to Oregon Often.
We go to New York City often.
We like snowboarding, althoughwe haven't gone in a while.
We need to.
I was thinking about going thisyear.
I don't know, maybe over springbreak we might.
I don't know, we'll see.
Okay, but yeah, we love to goplaces and I'm hoping to
continue that trend.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Does that bring inspiration or is it just like a
getaway?
It brings inspiration For meyeah.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Not so much for me.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
No, not even like New York or Paris.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Not really.
It like inspires me to movethere, but it doesn't really
inspire my music or art.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Okay, it's just a getaway for you.
So you wanna move where?
Speaker 2 (23:07):
I don't really know.
For a while I wanted to move toNew York City, but then I was
witnessing everything onlinethat's been happening there.
I was like, maybe not, but Ilove Oregon, I was born there.
I just I wanna go somewherewhere there's more greenery.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Okay, real greenery.
I didn't know you guys lived inOregon.
I thought you guys were born,raised here.
No, I was born and raised inNew York.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Okay, upstate New.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
York and then you moved to Oregon.
For what reason?
Speaker 3 (23:40):
So at the time her father got a job transfer to.
Portland and so we moved outthere.
And then, right after we moved,I got pregnant and had her.
And then, how long?
Speaker 1 (23:52):
were you there?
Speaker 3 (23:53):
About like a little over two years two and a half
years.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
And then, what exactly brought you to Brevard?
Speaker 3 (23:58):
And then, so actually after so I moved to Brevard
because my dad's family was hereafter high school, or my last
year of high school, so I washere.
Then I went to UCF college inOrlando and then met her father,
or yes, and then we moved outto Portland.
Okay, and what did you?
Speaker 1 (24:19):
study at UCF Art Art.
Yeah, you got an art degree.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Yes, yeah, Okay, like an art education degree, but I
loved, like you know, so I lovedthe studio art part.
And I wanted to just do like afine arts degree.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
And I, kind of you know, just mostly took those
classes.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
And then out in Oregon I went to Pacific
Northwest College of Art so thatwas really fun in the Pearl
District so I did a lot of artclasses there.
So that was kind of myspecialty you know like.
And then I found music but Ialways did music, so I don't
know?
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Yeah, it was always on the end, and so how did yoga
come about Like I got?
Speaker 3 (24:58):
certified through the studio.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
Not because I wanted to teach, just because I loved
it Right, and then it just kindof like came from there.
Just yoga changed my life, likeit really helped me through a
lot of stuff.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
So when you do, when you get certified for yoga, I've
heard that yoga, the physicalpractice, is just one of seven.
Yeah, there's, yeah, thingsthat encompass yoga.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Yeah, can you tell us about that.
Yeah, there's many differentlimbs of yoga, so asana is your
physical practice.
That's your third limb, okay,and yeah, it's just a small part
.
So when you go to a studio, youknow, it's just you're not
really sure why you're there.
You're just kind of working out, you know.
But then once you dive deeperinto the meditation, the breath
work, the pranayama, all of that, then it just starts to like
(25:44):
click, so it's breath work it'smeditation.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Did they teach you like the?
What are these things?
Like the yoni or the mudras?
Yeah, the mudras.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Yeah, there's different hand mudras and you
know, like with how you, youknow, press your hands, like
works with the hemispheres ofthe brain.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Is that what it is?
Yeah, it's very, and there'slike different ones.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
They have like the lotus ones and you know like a
Gaian Moudreau and all thesedifferent.
You know like ways you can kindof press and you know activate
brain activity.
Do you use that?
Sometimes I use like GaianMoudreaus and we do a lot of
these.
You know so, and then and thenthat's so when you're teaching
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the Asana it's hard toincorporate all of that stuff.
You know what I mean.
So I try to introduce pranayama, which is your breathwork, in
conjunction with movement and inhopes that people can feel like
what I felt through it and haveit help them.
And it's helped me tremendously.
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Has it helped you, nila?
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Yes, yeah, tell us how.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
I mean so a while ago , when I was doing more I think
it was just my high schoolcourses I would have DBAs, which
is a discussion-basedassessment.
And so my teacher would call meand ask me or any questions
from the module, and that justterrified me.
Yeah, I don't like not beingprepared, and so I would write
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like pages and pages of notes,and then she'd ask me like two
questions and.
I'd be like, oh my gosh, but Iwould just work myself up for
that and we would do yoga beforethat and remember-.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
And that would calm you, yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
I would make sure that I would wake up extra early
so we could do some type ofmeditation and just calms me
down.
And even now I'm going throughthings and I experience more
stress than I experienced when Iwas little, yeah, and so when I
go to my mom's class, you canjust totally forget all that
(27:49):
stuff that's bothering you andjust breathe and I do.
It's funny.
You'll catch yourself and mymom will say something like when
you start thinking, breathelouder, and you just hear
everybody's breath increase, Wow, and then you just forget about
your stress.
It's really nice.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
So when you really practice it, you're not just
focusing on your breath, you'renot thinking, there's no
thoughts, and you give yourselfthat time for you and it's
really amazing.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Yeah, because the breath work goes into a
meditation or a meditative state.
What are some of the stressorsthat a 17-year-old these days
face?
Because it was different for usgrowing up.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Yeah, yeah.
Well, one of the most commonones, I think, would be school.
That's stressful, familyrelations, relationships in
general, and just a lot of thetimes you'll think that somebody
wants you to meet certainstandards.
(28:46):
So reaching standards can bedifficult and expectations is
also difficult.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
From outside people not necessarily like yourself.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Yeah, not necessarily yourself.
Also, yourself when you setgoals for yourself and don't
reach them, that's kind of sad.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
What about social?
Media, stressors, social mediais a very big one.
Can you talk about that?
How does it impact you?
How are you dealing with it?
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Yeah, I've been on and off social media for a while
.
It can be great if you use itas a tool, but it can also be
extremely ugly and very scary.
It just can really destroysomeone, basically.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Have you felt like that about it?
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (29:27):
I've been in very rough patches of life due to
social media.
Really, yeah, can you?
Speaker 1 (29:32):
tell us a circumstance.
Is it like not getting enoughlikes, or is it just seeing the
beauty standards out there?
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Just, you don't even realize how easy it is to start
comparing yourself.
And maybe you see something andyou're like, oh wow, that's
really cool.
I wish I was like that.
But then, if you really pick itapart, it's just filters upon
filters fake but editing.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
It's not real.
I know, Isn't it so refreshingto see the unfiltered
celebrities even Like we needmore of that.
It's even funny.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
When we were talking about this not the long ago.
You see a photo online.
It's like this person is justabsolutely beautiful, perfect,
perfect, yeah.
And then I'm sitting in a roomfor yoga and I'm looking at all
these people and I'm like, wow,we're not meant to be that
perfect fake thing.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
Well, it's not real.
It's not real.
It's just so bizarre.
It is bizarre.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Do you find that your friends fall for it too?
I mean us as adults fall for it.
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
Everyone falls for it .
It's terrifying, right?
I mean I can't imagine withtheir young minds how that's
affecting them.
I mean I've seen her change andit's scary and it's been, yeah,
like as a parent to a parent.
It's like keep them off.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Keep them off.
Oh yeah, when did you start?
I mean because it's been thereall your life, right?
Yeah, like since you knew.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Facebook was around At 12 was when I got.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
That's when she got her first phone and that's when
everything went.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
The phone was terrible.
Oh gosh, I know the kids aroundmy neighborhood, even at this
age, are.
I mean, they have the watch andI'm I'm like I don't want you
to carry around that, eventhough, like, I see the value in
tracking your child.
Yeah, I mean, she doesn'treally leave a parameter Right.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
We think about like when we were young, like we
weren't tracked.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
You know what I mean we were fine, I know we had
quarters in our pocket.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
I mean, we're running around you know, just in the
woods having a blast, right, youknow?
Um I Mean.
I think we all, as parents, arevery nervous when I want
anything to happen to ourchildren, and I definitely went
through that, while I need toknow where you are, and I still
do yeah, I'm like where are you,yeah, but so having the phone
at 12 gave her access to theinternet, and it wasn't just the
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tracking, it was that right.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Yeah, it it was it just that all of a sudden she
went from reading tons of booksand like just being out in the
garden and you know, beingoutside and doing stuff till
like constantly on her phone,and I was like, oh my god, like,
and, and then it just like itwas very hard to change that.
I mean, you know we try tolimit it, but then you know that
(32:15):
Didn't work.
And then there was a new likelevel.
It's just in like levels ofthings like they're finding, and
In part of this, you know too,I allowed her to go on these
things because she was promotingherself.
Right she's been writing.
You know her first album wasout when you were 12, right, 12
years old, you know so.
You know she was promoting.
And then what happens is it'sno longer a tool.
(32:37):
Now you're sucked in, you knowand it may you're obsessed right
and they make it so that youget sucked in.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
I mean you're just yeah, and you're like, two hours
are gone.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
You're like what?
Speaker 1 (32:46):
did you see that movie?
Yes, explained it all.
Yeah, I know, I thought, yeah,that's interesting.
Yeah, are you on tiktok?
Speaker 2 (32:56):
I do tiktok.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
I don't really Post much on tiktok.
Yeah, I don't either, but Ifind it like I don't know.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Obviously, it'll go to whatever you're interested in
, and I find it to be like aneducational resource of it.
Okay, yeah, more so thanInstagram, which is like this is
my perfect life and I'm here toshare it with you.
Yeah, which I mean I tellpeople like you know they're
like, it looks like you'rethriving and I'm like it's just
(33:24):
a picture and I don't I don'treally like to post my kid too
much or or any of that but it islike.
I'm not gonna post when I'm sador the times that which I mean
when done Well, it's refreshing,right, because you're fed all
this perfection.
It's cool to see someone justBe like I'm having a bad day
(33:45):
today.
Yeah, exactly who do you lookup to?
Speaker 2 (33:55):
That's hard.
I really I've been.
I thought about that question alot and I've always thought,
like, who do I look up to?
But I, honest to God, have noidea.
Okay, there's no one reallythat I've ever wanted to like.
Oh, I want to be like them, orthey're really cool.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Well, that's, that's, probably good right.
I think so, you like yourselfyou like okay, what are what
other things outside of musicand art and yoga are you into
that we might not know about?
Speaker 2 (34:23):
for a while I was into bug pinning.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Entomology bug pinning.
Yeah so you take a dead bug anddead bug yeah, and, and you pin
it onto something.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Yeah, and I just like would make them really for a
display.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Yeah, I tried that once For an art project and it
was hard to get that littlebutterfly to stay and it ended
up cracking in half and what aresome bug pinning tips that you
have.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
Well, my friend she actually was the one who helped
me start pinning bugs and shewould have like a hot bowl of
water.
And so you take your dried bug,put it in there and it kind of
loosens it up, and then you justwould take it out onto like
Styrofoam or anything like theycould stick a needle in right,
(35:14):
and then you just slowly likepull the wings apart.
Oh it's a while.
It was really fun though.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
They're really pretty .
Where do you get your bugs?
Anywhere, I.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Was so obsessed with it that I'd go on walks and then
, like try to find I bring likea glass bottle with me and I'd
be like squatting everywhere.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
Where's the?
Speaker 2 (35:33):
bugs Um and then also in, like beach, public beach
restrooms.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Pretty bugs, yeah, worth pity.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Yeah, I mean, I feel like any bug can be really
pretty if you look at closeenough, with all the detail.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
And then, how long did you do that for and why did
you stop?
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Gosh, I did that for like Like three to four months
maybe no, it was like a year.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
Yeah, okay, wow over a year, then.
And where are all these bugsnow?
Okay, they're gonna display,and they are still have like a
box of unfinished.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
But I don't really know why I stopped.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
I just there's a lot of bugs.
Now, I had a lot of bugs, well,the time I came to pick up the
pottery that you sold me you hadcreated little origami.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Oh yeah origami.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
Is that your current obsession?
Are you passed?
Speaker 2 (36:33):
I mean, that's been going on for years.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
Yeah, that's here.
That's the longest.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
I think I was like, yeah, 11, is it origami or is it
jewelry making?
That?
Speaker 2 (36:42):
so it's both, both.
It's origami earrings or gonnamake different types of origami.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
Are those available anywhere in town or just yeah?
Speaker 2 (36:55):
I also have an account for that All right.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
Are you an Etsy or is it just an Instagram?
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Yeah, so that was crane earrings.
I don't go on it much.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
Okay, no, if you guys , but I also pottery.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Yeah, but I saw my earrings that I'm standard
collective.
Oh, okay, good, I'll put themat a few other places, but
that's always been my go to.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
They're really great.
Yeah, how did you cultivatethat relationship?
Speaker 3 (37:29):
Yeah, yeah, through the community and they've always
just been.
I just think they're great.
You know they're.
Yeah, it's a go.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
Yeah, they're just around.
Yeah, such a legend.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
Yeah, really yeah, with the groove to where you
here.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
when group yes, I was , I loved God it was like the
one and only store you wouldhave.
My god so great, yeah, I mean,it's not what standard
collective is now.
It was, it was you yeah, it wasreally retro stuff.
He would go to New York andcollect these little velvet
(38:09):
slippers that we all died overand needed, all the colors and
who is?
Gonna get the red ones firstmade vinyl.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
Yeah, which is really cool.
Yeah, I got my belly buttonpierced there.
They're six there.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
Oh my gosh, you guys have a lot of piercings.
Where do you go so?
Speaker 3 (38:28):
Oh, his name is Mac piercings.
He was ink tattoo, but he's notthere anymore.
No, okay, there's also another.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
I forget the name of the tattoo place, but it's in
downtown Melbourne, right acrossfrom Island root Kava bar,
right over.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
It's a yeah.
Yeah, he was there too, butthen now he's not there.
I think he works out of hishouse and you have tattoos.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
I just saw some blue dots.
Boy yes so they don't approve.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
I mean they're?
They're gonna fade, sincethey're stick of pokes.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
Well, if you notice, yes, we have imagine you guys
hold them up.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Yeah, I don't know if you're gonna be able to see it,
yeah, they're a little, justhave a very white arm.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
Well, design, nila designed yeah and did she?
Speaker 1 (39:21):
did these.
What do you mean so?
Speaker 2 (39:25):
Just a very small needle, some like actual tattoo
ink, not pen ink.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
I'm clear about okay tattoo ink, and then you just go
you guys just did it at home,yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
So I was like really against this from.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
When I found out that she did this, I was like so she
got?
Speaker 3 (39:41):
hers first, that's, and yeah, I just didn't.
I mean, I love tattoos, they'rebeautiful.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
I feel like she's too young.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
Yeah, but she did it in a room anyway, yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
How did?
Speaker 1 (39:52):
you know how to even do that.
I mean, I, I, we pierced eachother as kids, but never did we
dad to ourselves.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
I mean, it's just like drawing on yourself.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
Yeah, I draw a lot and you say they'll fade because
of the method that you did it.
Yeah, okay, it's really notlike deep into your channel.
They're not fading.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
I Mean I have one of my foot that's fading.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
Okay, how many have you done on yourself?
Speaker 3 (40:16):
She's not allowed anymore.
I told you no more.
Yes, I know.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
I think real quick, okay 12.
But they're like tiny, they'rejust like little tiny things.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
And then I have violent chimes and Sanskrit
written on my wrist which I'mgoing to now get.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
Yeah, you could do it , so I have this is my first
tattoo ever I've never.
Yeah, it's my first tattoo.
Speaker 3 (40:47):
And so then I'm gonna get the violent chimes here.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
And you're gonna have her do it.
Yeah, so I'll have her do it,so it means something Like that
picture's really special.
Speaker 3 (40:55):
So I mean I know all tattoos mean something and
they're all really special, butI got over it, but I still don't
want you to get a lot out, okayso Stop now.
Stop now.
Stop now, stop by your head.
Yeah, why your head?
Speaker 1 (41:08):
Cause you don't know you know, I know I have a tattoo
that I wish I would have notgotten, really yeah.
It's a ladybug and it looksjust like it looks like a beetle
now.
Like it's an ugly bug that youmight not want to pin, but you
can maybe get it like yeah, it'sin a spot that like doesn't
matter.
I do have one tattoo that Ilike.
(41:29):
It's white ink and it's aninfinity sign.
My lucky number is eight, so itmakes sense, and then I put a
period on it, just to be likeI'll put some more on about it,
but you can't see it, you can'treally see it.
So I think it's like a that'scool.
Speaker 3 (41:42):
I don't know, I do see it though.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
I see it, it's subtle , it's neat, it is neat.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
It's very neat.
Maybe next time.
Yes, white ink, neither it'sgood yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
Okay, ladies, where can we see you next?
Do you guys have any shows inline?
Speaker 3 (41:59):
Well, we're going to be playing at the Yogi Parogi
for all the Yogi's.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
Oh nice.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
Yeah, so that is April 6th, I think.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
I remember going and you saying it was like a wine
and you taught us how to likeplant a tree or something.
So that was at the yoga garden,okay.
Speaker 3 (42:20):
And we did, we sang, and then.
Speaker 1 (42:21):
Yeah, it was such a beautiful night.
Speaker 3 (42:23):
Yeah, so we'll probably do another one of those
, because I love thatenvironment, like the weather's
nice.
Yeah, so maybe we'll havesomething offered there.
We'll definitely keep youposted.
We usually post everything onour social media.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
Okay.
And tell us what those are, sothat our audience can find you.
Speaker 3 (42:40):
So my Instagram is trhnat and Nila's is Nila Lois.
Okay, n-i-l-a-h-l-o-i-s.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
And once you're next performance.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
I don't have any lined up right now you don't.
So if you want me to play ashow, let me know.
Yeah, we haven't, reallyhaven't had many lined up
recently.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
How does that work, though, for you, because, I mean
, people want to hear you.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
It kind of comes in like waves.
I guess, yeah, I noticed for awhile.
It's like all or nothing, it'slike show, show, show, no show.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
Okay, well, you know, you got nominated by Sombra
Mercy.
Yeah, that was so awesome.
Speaker 3 (43:22):
Yeah, I thought that was really good.
She really admires you yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
I think a lot of people do.
I know you guys have to leavefor whatever you guys have going
on today.
Do you have any parting wordsfor young people?
Because you're so put togetherand your head's on right, what
would you advise the youth outthere?
Speaker 2 (43:49):
Whatever you do, don't succumb to being quote
unquote normal.
Speaker 1 (43:54):
Okay, embrace anything.
Anything that's special aboutyou, is it?
Special, yeah, yeah yeah, Ithink when we were growing up,
the opposite message was sent tous.
Absolutely Conformer.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
You have to look this certain way, yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
And I really appreciate that and you and you
guys being here today because Ithink it's important for people
to hear a young lady likeyourself.
Yeah, just be so with it.
And I don't know if it'sbecause of the homeschooling and
the music and everything, butyou guys are doing something
incredibly right.
Speaker 3 (44:30):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
Yeah, you guys are both like super inspiring.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (44:34):
Tracy with all your yoga and art.
I love that Thanks.
So thank you for being heretoday, yeah thanks so much for
having us.
Yeah, if you guys ever need topromote anything.
Let us know Okay, and you guysare always welcome back.
Speaker 3 (44:48):
Yeah, thank you so much.
This was really wonderful,super awesome.
Speaker 1 (44:50):
It was a wonderful meeting you.
Oh yeah, do you guys want tonominate somebody?
Yes, Okay.
Psych.
Who's that?
Speaker 2 (44:59):
Psych, the local metal band.
Okay, oh my gosh, that would beso cool.
Speaker 1 (45:05):
She loves Psych.
Okay, is it a group?
Speaker 2 (45:08):
Two A duo A duo.
Speaker 3 (45:10):
Male duo.
Speaker 1 (45:11):
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So we have Tracy Mat and NylaLois in the studio today.
Welcome, ladies, thanks forhaving us.
Yes, absolutely, you guys arekind of.
(00:23):
I mean, nyla, you have yourmusic career on your own, but
you guys also do it together attimes.
And then, tracy, you are a yogainstructor and an artist as
well, what a wonderful dynamicand Tracy you've been
(00:43):
homeschooling Nyla for all herlife, since third grade.
Oh, okay.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Yeah, she went to the Montessori school, okay, from
pre-K to first or second, andthen I homeschooled her.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
What made you decide to go that route?
Speaker 3 (01:00):
She's super creative and I felt like it wasn't really
being I don't know.
I just felt like she needed tohave some more creativity time,
and so I took her out and it wasreally the best thing I ever
did.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
I have to agree, I'm.
Yeah, I also think abouthomeschooling.
I did it for my daughter duringthe pandemic.
But I'd like to hear from youlike, how is it going?
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Well, I mean it's going good.
Currently I do a lot of onlineschooling and.
I've gone to some likehomeschool groups, like pods, I
guess, kind of like that.
I've gone to like the EcoVerity, other homeschool groups,
but recently I've been doingmore online stuff.
(01:48):
But I just do on my own and Ilike that better.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
What grade are you actually in right?
Now Currently in 11th 11thgrade and you just turned 17.
Very nice.
And so these pods like allowyou to have like a social life
too.
Oh yeah, that's like the numberone thing, yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Right Number one misconception.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Yeah, and do you have any friends that go to public
school?
Speaker 2 (02:10):
All my friends go to public school.
All of them, yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
And like, what do you guys like decipher about it?
Like are they jealous that youhad to do it on your own?
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Not really.
They all get a taste of itduring the pandemic.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Oh, that's right yeah .
Speaker 2 (02:25):
It really depends on if you're self-motivated to.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Right, which you totally are For the most part
yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
For the most part, that's a big thing.
Yeah, definitely it is.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
And, are you like, ahead of schedule, because
you're able to do homeschooling.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
It depends on what I have planned for the week.
Sometimes I because I do haveobviously due dates to get
stuff- done.
And I'll either like if I havea really busy week with other
activities like music, then Imight have my schooling linger a
little bit Okay.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
But you're kind of on track.
Yeah, because I'm not reallydoing it whenever she's actually
here you are ahead.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
I'm definitely ahead she does a dual enrollment, so
she actually takes collegecourses.
So she's in her second semester, third semester of dual
enrollment, I believe.
So she's a little ahead andthrough homeschooling she speaks
fluent French.
What?
Because it was able to reallydo all of her music and writing
(03:25):
and putting everything out onSpotify and all the platforms
and everything.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Yeah, which I think.
Well, that's likeentrepreneurship, right?
Yeah, totally.
But the French thing like yeah,we've been taking.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
French for like five, six years.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Just five and six years, and now you're fluent.
Yeah, I tried to get mydaughter to do that as soon as
she was born, and it kind offell off.
How did you guys manage to?
Speaker 3 (03:52):
We have an amazing French teacher.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
It's Laurent's and she's from Paris and so we just
do conversational friends withher.
We used to be twice a week, nowit's once a week, but we've
been to Paris and we've traveleda lot.
That's amazing.
So we get around and it is hard.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
And when you're over there.
It's slang and it's a littledifferent, Right and is that
lady here in town?
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Yeah, cool, is she taking on other?
Speaker 3 (04:20):
I'll ask her, but she probably would.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Awesome yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
She's awesome, she's incredible.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Cool.
So the whole music thing, Tracy, is it a family tradition to be
a musician or did it start withyou?
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Well, so in my I started playing the violin when
I was three, and so my parentsgot me into the violin and all
that stuff.
But I just kind of did it forfun and I got into piano and
then guitar singing, all thatstuff.
And then I had some friends ask, after I had Nyla, if I could
help them learn violin and stuff.
And so that's kind of where thewhole teaching started.
(04:57):
And then I had students at thehouse.
I had a lot of students and wedid recitals and Nyla
accompanied all of my students,which was really cool, and then
it just kind of started thereLike it was just an environment
of music.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
That's really cool.
That's really cool Surroundingand both of you have taught at
the groove shout.
Are you guys still there?
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Are you still there?
I am still there.
She's subbed sometimes.
Okay, I love the groove shack.
They're great, I know, I know.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
And now they have sort of spin-dots into the Casa
Bonita.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Yes, yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
The Dolly's Wine Bar, which is really, really amazing
.
It's amazing.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
You guys have been there.
I have been there, yeah, nyla.
I have not been there yet,Erica the owner, brock's wife,
asked us to sing there at somepoint, so we'll probably be
doing some live music there.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Yeah, it's a very nice venue.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
It's got a good vibe.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
It has a great vibe.
It's yeah.
Okay, let's go back to youplaying violin at three.
How did you get a violin atthree?
Oh gosh.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
So it's called, it's a Suzuki method and it's Dr
Suzuki and basically it's.
You know, you start you likewith a little box, like box
violin you know, so you learnhow to hold it and just kind of
start you really young.
So it's just second nature.
So like playing the violin isjust second nature, really
that's crazy Because I startedso young, but it's a hard
instrument.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Yeah, it is.
How did your parents sort ofknow to do that?
Like, are they creative too?
Speaker 3 (06:30):
They are in their own way.
They're not musical.
Okay, so what my mom had, Nilagives my her grandmother ukulele
lessons.
And so she she loves music,they love music.
And I feel like my dad can sing.
I actually heard him sing a fewtimes.
It's got a pretty good voiceyeah.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
But yeah, it just kind of Devolved itself, yeah,
and so being so young was just,I think, really important with
you know starting, yeah, andabsolutely.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Yeah, Nila.
What is it like to be a 17 yearold musician?
I mean, not a lot of kids getthat opportunity, have the
talent for it.
How do you?
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Yeah, I mean, since I would go.
I used to go to the group shacka lot.
I was mostly surrounded by kidsthat play music.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Okay, so it's not.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
I've never really thought about that before when
it's like to be a musician.
But I mean, I couldn't imaginenot doing it, not doing it.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Yeah, how do you get inspiration for your lyrics?
Do you write your own?
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Yeah, all the lyrics I write on my own and the
inspiration definitely variesSometimes.
It's always inspired fromthings that happen in my life,
but it comes in waves.
I'll just like randomly get anidea for a line, write it down
and then keep going, and thensometimes I have a whole song
(07:56):
planned out.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Do you ever get jitters to go on stage, or does
it just feel so natural to you?
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Really that's amazing .
Speaker 3 (08:05):
I've never seen her nervous get up on stage.
Really no.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
You remember when I had my math test?
Speaker 3 (08:11):
She gets nervous for math tests, but not performing.
I feel her live performancesare just even better than her
recorded performances.
I mean, she's just incredible.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
How many albums have you recorded?
Or is it just songs that yourecord?
Speaker 2 (08:29):
I don't know, how many things I've released.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Like over oh my gosh, how many.
So you have like four albums,five albums EP, yeah, so five
songs on each EP, and then she'sgot a bunch of singles.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
But I've written like many more.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Many more I have not sat down and recorded them.
Oh, okay.
So how do you choose what torecord and what not to record?
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Well, whenever I write a song, I'm usually like
obsessed with it for a timeperiod and then if I don't
record it when I'm in thatobsession period then I kind of
just like falls back and getslost and then I'll write another
one, and then if I actuallyrecord that one in the obsession
(09:18):
period.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Okay, so it has to be the right time.
And then, when you two guysperform together, is there a
name you guys go by?
Violent Chimes.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Violent Chimes.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
And then have you guys recorded together?
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Not yet we want to Because.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Violent Chimes is kind of new right.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
It is new.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Yeah, okay, so in the works.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Yeah, so we've, you know, we've written a bunch of
songs together and we just needto, kind of, you know, find the
time.
So I feel like putting the timeinto record is a lot, it's a
lot.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Yeah, where do you?
Speaker 3 (09:58):
guys do that In her room.
Oh, now it's in the music roomwe have a little room, oh nice.
We just record at home andshe's like I mean, she does
incredible sound and everythingfor her own music, right, which
is wild.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Are you going to keep doing that Like what are you
studying?
Are you going to?
Are you?
Speaker 2 (10:16):
going to be a lifelong musician.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Are you going to get into like actually like a
recording studio?
Do you have any ambition to gooutside of Brevard?
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Oh, definitely.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
I'm going to get out of here.
For Ronto.
But, like as far as career wiseand what I want to really do
with my life, it seems to changeevery month.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Really yeah.
Tell me some of the things thatyou like considered.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
One idea was like dermatology, okay.
And then I realized maybe not.
And then I was thinking artanimation, yep, because I draw a
lot.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
She's an incredible artist, like drawing and I mean
Like realism and hard to use.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
But then obviously I've been so wrapped around
music Right Like my whole life.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Why aren't you showing some of your art?
Speaker 2 (11:11):
I actually do have a very small art page.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
It's called Funky Rat Art Okay.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Yeah, how did that name come about?
Speaker 2 (11:22):
I don't really know.
I just had an account and thenI was thinking, hmm, that would
be kind of weird.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
And then I just Funky Rat Art popped up, okay, okay,
so it's out there.
What about, like putting it ingalleries and stuff?
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Yeah, I've never done that, but I think that would be
a very good idea.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
She has a whole collection of these incredible
pottery pieces that she's made.
Oh yeah, you guys do pottery,yeah, which I love.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
You guys have a film in the studio in your house.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Yes, Because I bought some over the holidays.
That's right, yes, and youmentioned that you do have
classes or like private sessions.
Yeah, tell us about that.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
And so just depending on if I'll get like a group.
You know, right now I haveteens, a little group of teens
that come in and work and it'swhat I'm finding.
It's very therapeutic for them.
They're not on their phones,yeah, they're working.
They work the whole time.
They don't even talk, hardlyhow long are the?
Sessions Two hours Okay,sometimes they go a little over.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
And they meet weekly.
Yes, and if somebody wanted todo that with you, you can
contact me.
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Yeah, through Instagram, okay, or you know,
facebook or something, okay, soI, I, because I work at the
group shack too, so my time islike Split it's split.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Right, and then yoga too right, and yoga, yeah, the
yoga garden, which is amazingplace.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
How often are you there?
Tuesday nights and Fridaynights, okay.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
I've seen you do some incredible poses, Nila.
Are you into that too?
She?
Speaker 3 (12:55):
is yeah, and she's amazing at that also.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
You guys have such like a a great sort of bond.
We do.
Can you speak to that?
How did you cultivate that?
Because a lot of times that I'mmy best friend.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
I know.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
We were just.
I mean, how many teenagers saythat about their mothers?
I think you know a lot.
Um, you know, start to rebel orshy away, stay in their room.
How do you keep it together?
Speaker 3 (13:18):
I mean, it's just always been so close and, um,
it's just funny because I feellike, you know, I basically gave
birth to like myself, except10.0.
Upgrade 10.0.
Um, she, she likes everythingthat I like.
We like the same things.
You know, we're and we're.
We just get along really well.
We're always laughing, likethat's that's the best.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Yeah, it's kind of funny that I'll talk about the
stages in life that I'm goingthrough.
My mom was like, oh yeah, whenI was your age, I did the same
thing.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
It's like we have a lot of very similar moments and
experiences.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Oh, my God.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Yeah, we just um, and we're both only children too,
so I don't have any brothers orsisters.
Do you think that has to dowith it?
Because you're not spreadingyourself thin among other
siblings and stuff.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Yeah, and then you?
You, you have friends.
Do they also carry the samerelationship, or do you see that
you and your mother havesomething special?
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Oh, yeah, yeah, you could tell the difference, yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
That's really nice.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Yeah, it's really cool.
Like I, my favorite time iswith her, and especially when
we're creating.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
you know, so would you say it's never been
difficult, or do you?
Speaker 3 (14:24):
guys have times.
We've had difficult moments.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Yeah, oh yeah, it's I mean sure so, nila, I just saw
the sound of music and you knowthe, the 16 year old, going on
17.
She just gets her first kissand everything.
Are you experiencing that Like?
Speaker 3 (14:40):
falling in love.
Yes, have you done that?
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Yeah, have you fallen in love before Once, twice,
many times Um?
Speaker 2 (14:47):
well, I mean, I feel like relationships and
determining like real love canbe very difficult to determine,
especially at such a young ageyeah.
Um, so I'd say currently I'm inlove you are, and yeah, and
mother approved, yeah, okay.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Her boyfriend is very sweet.
He treats her nicely, is it anew relationship?
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Well, seven months.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Oh no, not new at all .
Okay, that's good.
Have you ever come across a ayou know guy that you didn't
approve of that she brought home?
Yes.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
And we've, and we've actually gone through.
You know there's there's a lotthere, um, but you know you have
to work through these thingsand have trust and um just hope
that you know your child makesthe right decision.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
So like as a mother going through that, how did you?
It's very hard.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Yeah, it's like give us some pointers because, oh boy
, um, I mean I okay, so I dofeel like they shouldn't be so
young to have a boyfriend, right, you know, like I feel like
they should wait, maybe havefriends.
But sometimes it just happens,sometimes there's this
(16:03):
connection and they just, youknow, really like each other and
, um, I think you just have tokind of give them the best
advice you can and and hopesthat they will make.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
So you're straight forward with her Very
straightforward we're veryhonest with each other.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Okay, we went through a period of time that was a
little bit rough.
Um, we are currently out ofthat and moving forward and, um,
I think that's normal.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
I think every it's totally normal I mean I went
through.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Every teenager goes through it.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
I went through it too , and it does count how your mom
or dad deal with it because itcould push you to make more
wrong decisions if so honesty isthe best policy.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Yes, okay, and I just safety.
I just want her to be safe.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
So, just letting me know, Nila, did you sort of.
How did you process that?
Like bringing someone home,your mom says I don't like him
so much for you.
How was that for?
Speaker 2 (17:03):
you.
It's very difficult.
I think it's more difficult inmy situation because of how
close me and my mom are.
So it's like it's hard to pickand choose, because you don't
want to hurt someone and thenyou also don't want to hurt the
other person.
So if you like love two peoplewho don't really connect, you
(17:24):
got to, like find ways around it.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Yeah, how long did it take you to sort of know that?
Okay, well, I have to move on.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
So I mean, it's hard to say like how long it really
took, but we kind of, instead ofmoving on, we kind of all just
understood each other's likestance and where we're coming
from.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Okay, and then it just fizzled yeah okay, I think,
with young minds too,understanding what love is.
You know like when you lovesomebody you let them be who
they are.
You know you grow with them.
You know jealousy is like a bigthing, right.
And like you can't, you know,get over, like just the jealousy
(18:08):
, has got to be very carefulwith that.
And so they have to, becausethey're young, they don't
understand Right, and like youhandle things, and so you know,
explaining that right, you knowwhat I mean.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
I know because when you, I remember being young and
in love and now, looking back asan adult, you realize like
maybe it was more of aninfatuation or a rebelling.
You know.
Yeah so that's, veryinteresting.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Yeah, and you know, ultimately like the two people
should really enjoy each other'scompany.
You know when you startfighting and it's not.
You know like you feel bad andhe feels bad, right.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
And it's like not healthy.
Well, also being like a frontwoman of a.
Do you have a band or is it?
Do you just?
Are you a solo artist?
Speaker 2 (18:50):
So I used to be in a band.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
But currently I just do solo stuff.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
But that must be intimidating for you to be in
front of like a whole stage ofpeople and you know jealousy,
ken and Sue.
It takes quite the man to beable to handle that right.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Yeah, me personally.
I have never really dealt withjealousy issues, but I do know
people who have dealt with itand it's very hard for them.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Yeah, it is hard because you know you love, but
then you don't understand whyyou're getting all this Right,
Right, yeah, Okay, moving on,you have like a look.
Where do you get yourinspiration for your look?
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Well, I mean ever since I was like 12, I want to
say I was really into the gothic, more darker look.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Right, which is kind of like opposite of what Tracy
exudes.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Well, the funny thing is, when she was that age, she
was just like oh, really, yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
So my hair was just like this Dark oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
So you're into the gothic?
What sort of brings you to that?
Why do you gravitate towardsthat?
Speaker 2 (20:00):
I really don't know oh really.
I've just always liked darkerthings and it's like a look, but
I feel like it might also be alittle mental.
We've always just like beenmore interested in like darker
creepy, our Tim.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Burton film.
Yeah, I was just gonna saymaybe because you were brought
up watching Tim Burton film.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
We listened to more like moody music.
I don't know it's the overallaura, it's just darker.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
And did that come off in your lyrics too?
Speaker 2 (20:30):
For sure.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Yeah, yeah.
What is like one of yourfavorite songs that you've
written yeah, that you'vewritten that you think our
audience should go listen to.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
I really like my song .
I don't know, okay, and what'sthat about?
Well, it's kind of about notknowing, and it's just like
confused when you're aroundsomeone and you don't really
know, like what you're trying todo or like what they're trying
to tell you.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
It's just overall.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Like misreading people or trying to read.
Emotions are all messed up andthen when you guys write music
together, what is that like?
Like, what kind of themes areyou guys exploring there?
Speaker 3 (21:12):
They're always very emotional.
Like we always like I thinkthat's kind of brings out the
lyrics is the emotion you knowwhen we're going through things
in our lives.
Yeah, and it just.
I think we wrote like two happysongs, one of them like once
yeah, and we resonate more withthe sad stuff.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
It's kind of like for me whenever I write a sad song,
because I remember my grandmawas like why are your songs so
sad?
And I was like, well, I'm notreally.
I don't come off as a very sadperson and I feel like if I
didn't write these songs, maybeI would.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Yeah it's kind of like a therapy.
It's almost like my therapy.
Oh, that is interesting.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Getting it out instead of.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Yeah, you don't come off as sad and like.
This is my first time actuallylike having a conversation with
you and you know, when you lookat you you're obviously in
Gothic mode and that's sad.
But you're not a sad child atall.
You're a happy child and not achild.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Young lady, she's still a child.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Okay, cool.
So you guys have been to Paris.
Where else have you traveled?
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Switzerland.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Yeah, switzerland we go to.
So she was born out in PortlandOregon.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Oh really.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
So we go out to Oregon Often.
We go to New York City often.
We like snowboarding, althoughwe haven't gone in a while.
We need to.
I was thinking about going thisyear.
I don't know, maybe over springbreak we might.
I don't know, we'll see.
Okay, but yeah, we love to goplaces and I'm hoping to
continue that trend.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Does that bring inspiration or is it just like a
getaway?
It brings inspiration For meyeah.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Not so much for me.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
No, not even like New York or Paris.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Not really.
It like inspires me to movethere, but it doesn't really
inspire my music or art.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Okay, it's just a getaway for you.
So you wanna move where?
Speaker 2 (23:07):
I don't really know.
For a while I wanted to move toNew York City, but then I was
witnessing everything onlinethat's been happening there.
I was like, maybe not, but Ilove Oregon, I was born there.
I just I wanna go somewherewhere there's more greenery.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Okay, real greenery.
I didn't know you guys lived inOregon.
I thought you guys were born,raised here.
No, I was born and raised inNew York.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Okay, upstate New.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
York and then you moved to Oregon.
For what reason?
Speaker 3 (23:40):
So at the time her father got a job transfer to.
Portland and so we moved outthere.
And then, right after we moved,I got pregnant and had her.
And then, how long?
Speaker 1 (23:52):
were you there?
Speaker 3 (23:53):
About like a little over two years two and a half
years.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
And then, what exactly brought you to Brevard?
Speaker 3 (23:58):
And then, so actually after so I moved to Brevard
because my dad's family was hereafter high school, or my last
year of high school, so I washere.
Then I went to UCF college inOrlando and then met her father,
or yes, and then we moved outto Portland.
Okay, and what did you?
Speaker 1 (24:19):
study at UCF Art Art.
Yeah, you got an art degree.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Yes, yeah, Okay, like an art education degree, but I
loved, like you know, so I lovedthe studio art part.
And I wanted to just do like afine arts degree.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
And I, kind of you know, just mostly took those
classes.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
And then out in Oregon I went to Pacific
Northwest College of Art so thatwas really fun in the Pearl
District so I did a lot of artclasses there.
So that was kind of myspecialty you know like.
And then I found music but Ialways did music, so I don't
know?
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Yeah, it was always on the end, and so how did yoga
come about Like I got?
Speaker 3 (24:58):
certified through the studio.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
Not because I wanted to teach, just because I loved
it Right, and then it just kindof like came from there.
Just yoga changed my life, likeit really helped me through a
lot of stuff.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
So when you do, when you get certified for yoga, I've
heard that yoga, the physicalpractice, is just one of seven.
Yeah, there's, yeah, thingsthat encompass yoga.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Yeah, can you tell us about that.
Yeah, there's many differentlimbs of yoga, so asana is your
physical practice.
That's your third limb, okay,and yeah, it's just a small part
.
So when you go to a studio, youknow, it's just you're not
really sure why you're there.
You're just kind of working out, you know.
But then once you dive deeperinto the meditation, the breath
work, the pranayama, all of that, then it just starts to like
(25:44):
click, so it's breath work it'smeditation.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Did they teach you like the?
What are these things?
Like the yoni or the mudras?
Yeah, the mudras.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Yeah, there's different hand mudras and you
know, like with how you, youknow, press your hands, like
works with the hemispheres ofthe brain.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Is that what it is?
Yeah, it's very, and there'slike different ones.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
They have like the lotus ones and you know like a
Gaian Moudreau and all thesedifferent.
You know like ways you can kindof press and you know activate
brain activity.
Do you use that?
Sometimes I use like GaianMoudreaus and we do a lot of
these.
You know so, and then and thenthat's so when you're teaching
(26:30):
the Asana it's hard toincorporate all of that stuff.
You know what I mean.
So I try to introduce pranayama, which is your breathwork, in
conjunction with movement and inhopes that people can feel like
what I felt through it and haveit help them.
And it's helped me tremendously.
(26:50):
Has it helped you, nila?
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Yes, yeah, tell us how.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
I mean so a while ago , when I was doing more I think
it was just my high schoolcourses I would have DBAs, which
is a discussion-basedassessment.
And so my teacher would call meand ask me or any questions
from the module, and that justterrified me.
Yeah, I don't like not beingprepared, and so I would write
(27:16):
like pages and pages of notes,and then she'd ask me like two
questions and.
I'd be like, oh my gosh, but Iwould just work myself up for
that and we would do yoga beforethat and remember-.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
And that would calm you, yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
I would make sure that I would wake up extra early
so we could do some type ofmeditation and just calms me
down.
And even now I'm going throughthings and I experience more
stress than I experienced when Iwas little, yeah, and so when I
go to my mom's class, you canjust totally forget all that
(27:49):
stuff that's bothering you andjust breathe and I do.
It's funny.
You'll catch yourself and mymom will say something like when
you start thinking, breathelouder, and you just hear
everybody's breath increase, Wow, and then you just forget about
your stress.
It's really nice.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
So when you really practice it, you're not just
focusing on your breath, you'renot thinking, there's no
thoughts, and you give yourselfthat time for you and it's
really amazing.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Yeah, because the breath work goes into a
meditation or a meditative state.
What are some of the stressorsthat a 17-year-old these days
face?
Because it was different for usgrowing up.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Yeah, yeah.
Well, one of the most commonones, I think, would be school.
That's stressful, familyrelations, relationships in
general, and just a lot of thetimes you'll think that somebody
wants you to meet certainstandards.
(28:46):
So reaching standards can bedifficult and expectations is
also difficult.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
From outside people not necessarily like yourself.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Yeah, not necessarily yourself.
Also, yourself when you setgoals for yourself and don't
reach them, that's kind of sad.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
What about social?
Media, stressors, social mediais a very big one.
Can you talk about that?
How does it impact you?
How are you dealing with it?
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Yeah, I've been on and off social media for a while
.
It can be great if you use itas a tool, but it can also be
extremely ugly and very scary.
It just can really destroysomeone, basically.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Have you felt like that about it?
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (29:27):
I've been in very rough patches of life due to
social media.
Really, yeah, can you?
Speaker 1 (29:32):
tell us a circumstance.
Is it like not getting enoughlikes, or is it just seeing the
beauty standards out there?
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Just, you don't even realize how easy it is to start
comparing yourself.
And maybe you see something andyou're like, oh wow, that's
really cool.
I wish I was like that.
But then, if you really pick itapart, it's just filters upon
filters fake but editing.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
It's not real.
I know, Isn't it so refreshingto see the unfiltered
celebrities even Like we needmore of that.
It's even funny.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
When we were talking about this not the long ago.
You see a photo online.
It's like this person is justabsolutely beautiful, perfect,
perfect, yeah.
And then I'm sitting in a roomfor yoga and I'm looking at all
these people and I'm like, wow,we're not meant to be that
perfect fake thing.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
Well, it's not real.
It's not real.
It's just so bizarre.
It is bizarre.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Do you find that your friends fall for it too?
I mean us as adults fall for it.
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
Everyone falls for it .
It's terrifying, right?
I mean I can't imagine withtheir young minds how that's
affecting them.
I mean I've seen her change andit's scary and it's been, yeah,
like as a parent to a parent.
It's like keep them off.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Keep them off.
Oh yeah, when did you start?
I mean because it's been thereall your life, right?
Yeah, like since you knew.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Facebook was around At 12 was when I got.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
That's when she got her first phone and that's when
everything went.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
The phone was terrible.
Oh gosh, I know the kids aroundmy neighborhood, even at this
age, are.
I mean, they have the watch andI'm I'm like I don't want you
to carry around that, eventhough, like, I see the value in
tracking your child.
Yeah, I mean, she doesn'treally leave a parameter Right.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
We think about like when we were young, like we
weren't tracked.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
You know what I mean we were fine, I know we had
quarters in our pocket.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
I mean, we're running around you know, just in the
woods having a blast, right, youknow?
Um I Mean.
I think we all, as parents, arevery nervous when I want
anything to happen to ourchildren, and I definitely went
through that, while I need toknow where you are, and I still
do yeah, I'm like where are you,yeah, but so having the phone
at 12 gave her access to theinternet, and it wasn't just the
(31:50):
tracking, it was that right.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Yeah, it it was it just that all of a sudden she
went from reading tons of booksand like just being out in the
garden and you know, beingoutside and doing stuff till
like constantly on her phone,and I was like, oh my god, like,
and, and then it just like itwas very hard to change that.
I mean, you know we try tolimit it, but then you know that
(32:15):
Didn't work.
And then there was a new likelevel.
It's just in like levels ofthings like they're finding, and
In part of this, you know too,I allowed her to go on these
things because she was promotingherself.
Right she's been writing.
You know her first album wasout when you were 12, right, 12
years old, you know so.
You know she was promoting.
And then what happens is it'sno longer a tool.
(32:37):
Now you're sucked in, you knowand it may you're obsessed right
and they make it so that youget sucked in.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
I mean you're just yeah, and you're like, two hours
are gone.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
You're like what?
Speaker 1 (32:46):
did you see that movie?
Yes, explained it all.
Yeah, I know, I thought, yeah,that's interesting.
Yeah, are you on tiktok?
Speaker 2 (32:56):
I do tiktok.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
I don't really Post much on tiktok.
Yeah, I don't either, but Ifind it like I don't know.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Obviously, it'll go to whatever you're interested in
, and I find it to be like aneducational resource of it.
Okay, yeah, more so thanInstagram, which is like this is
my perfect life and I'm here toshare it with you.
Yeah, which I mean I tellpeople like you know they're
like, it looks like you'rethriving and I'm like it's just
(33:24):
a picture and I don't I don'treally like to post my kid too
much or or any of that but it islike.
I'm not gonna post when I'm sador the times that which I mean
when done Well, it's refreshing,right, because you're fed all
this perfection.
It's cool to see someone justBe like I'm having a bad day
(33:45):
today.
Yeah, exactly who do you lookup to?
Speaker 2 (33:55):
That's hard.
I really I've been.
I thought about that question alot and I've always thought,
like, who do I look up to?
But I, honest to God, have noidea.
Okay, there's no one reallythat I've ever wanted to like.
Oh, I want to be like them, orthey're really cool.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Well, that's, that's, probably good right.
I think so, you like yourselfyou like okay, what are what
other things outside of musicand art and yoga are you into
that we might not know about?
Speaker 2 (34:23):
for a while I was into bug pinning.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Entomology bug pinning.
Yeah so you take a dead bug anddead bug yeah, and, and you pin
it onto something.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Yeah, and I just like would make them really for a
display.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Yeah, I tried that once For an art project and it
was hard to get that littlebutterfly to stay and it ended
up cracking in half and what aresome bug pinning tips that you
have.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
Well, my friend she actually was the one who helped
me start pinning bugs and shewould have like a hot bowl of
water.
And so you take your dried bug,put it in there and it kind of
loosens it up, and then you justwould take it out onto like
Styrofoam or anything like theycould stick a needle in right,
(35:14):
and then you just slowly likepull the wings apart.
Oh it's a while.
It was really fun though.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
They're really pretty .
Where do you get your bugs?
Anywhere, I.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Was so obsessed with it that I'd go on walks and then
, like try to find I bring likea glass bottle with me and I'd
be like squatting everywhere.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
Where's the?
Speaker 2 (35:33):
bugs Um and then also in, like beach, public beach
restrooms.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Pretty bugs, yeah, worth pity.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Yeah, I mean, I feel like any bug can be really
pretty if you look at closeenough, with all the detail.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
And then, how long did you do that for and why did
you stop?
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Gosh, I did that for like Like three to four months
maybe no, it was like a year.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
Yeah, okay, wow over a year, then.
And where are all these bugsnow?
Okay, they're gonna display,and they are still have like a
box of unfinished.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
But I don't really know why I stopped.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
I just there's a lot of bugs.
Now, I had a lot of bugs, well,the time I came to pick up the
pottery that you sold me you hadcreated little origami.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Oh yeah origami.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
Is that your current obsession?
Are you passed?
Speaker 2 (36:33):
I mean, that's been going on for years.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
Yeah, that's here.
That's the longest.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
I think I was like, yeah, 11, is it origami or is it
jewelry making?
That?
Speaker 2 (36:42):
so it's both, both.
It's origami earrings or gonnamake different types of origami.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
Are those available anywhere in town or just yeah?
Speaker 2 (36:55):
I also have an account for that All right.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
Are you an Etsy or is it just an Instagram?
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Yeah, so that was crane earrings.
I don't go on it much.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
Okay, no, if you guys , but I also pottery.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Yeah, but I saw my earrings that I'm standard
collective.
Oh, okay, good, I'll put themat a few other places, but
that's always been my go to.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
They're really great.
Yeah, how did you cultivatethat relationship?
Speaker 3 (37:29):
Yeah, yeah, through the community and they've always
just been.
I just think they're great.
You know they're.
Yeah, it's a go.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
Yeah, they're just around.
Yeah, such a legend.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
Yeah, really yeah, with the groove to where you
here.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
when group yes, I was , I loved God it was like the
one and only store you wouldhave.
My god so great, yeah, I mean,it's not what standard
collective is now.
It was, it was you yeah, it wasreally retro stuff.
He would go to New York andcollect these little velvet
(38:09):
slippers that we all died overand needed, all the colors and
who is?
Gonna get the red ones firstmade vinyl.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
Yeah, which is really cool.
Yeah, I got my belly buttonpierced there.
They're six there.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
Oh my gosh, you guys have a lot of piercings.
Where do you go so?
Speaker 3 (38:28):
Oh, his name is Mac piercings.
He was ink tattoo, but he's notthere anymore.
No, okay, there's also another.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
I forget the name of the tattoo place, but it's in
downtown Melbourne, right acrossfrom Island root Kava bar,
right over.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
It's a yeah.
Yeah, he was there too, butthen now he's not there.
I think he works out of hishouse and you have tattoos.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
I just saw some blue dots.
Boy yes so they don't approve.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
I mean they're?
They're gonna fade, sincethey're stick of pokes.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
Well, if you notice, yes, we have imagine you guys
hold them up.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Yeah, I don't know if you're gonna be able to see it,
yeah, they're a little, justhave a very white arm.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
Well, design, nila designed yeah and did she?
Speaker 1 (39:21):
did these.
What do you mean so?
Speaker 2 (39:25):
Just a very small needle, some like actual tattoo
ink, not pen ink.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
I'm clear about okay tattoo ink, and then you just go
you guys just did it at home,yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
So I was like really against this from.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
When I found out that she did this, I was like so she
got?
Speaker 3 (39:41):
hers first, that's, and yeah, I just didn't.
I mean, I love tattoos, they'rebeautiful.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
I feel like she's too young.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
Yeah, but she did it in a room anyway, yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
How did?
Speaker 1 (39:52):
you know how to even do that.
I mean, I, I, we pierced eachother as kids, but never did we
dad to ourselves.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
I mean, it's just like drawing on yourself.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
Yeah, I draw a lot and you say they'll fade because
of the method that you did it.
Yeah, okay, it's really notlike deep into your channel.
They're not fading.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
I Mean I have one of my foot that's fading.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
Okay, how many have you done on yourself?
Speaker 3 (40:16):
She's not allowed anymore.
I told you no more.
Yes, I know.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
I think real quick, okay 12.
But they're like tiny, they'rejust like little tiny things.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
And then I have violent chimes and Sanskrit
written on my wrist which I'mgoing to now get.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
Yeah, you could do it , so I have this is my first
tattoo ever I've never.
Yeah, it's my first tattoo.
Speaker 3 (40:47):
And so then I'm gonna get the violent chimes here.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
And you're gonna have her do it.
Yeah, so I'll have her do it,so it means something Like that
picture's really special.
Speaker 3 (40:55):
So I mean I know all tattoos mean something and
they're all really special, butI got over it, but I still don't
want you to get a lot out, okayso Stop now.
Stop now.
Stop now, stop by your head.
Yeah, why your head?
Speaker 1 (41:08):
Cause you don't know you know, I know I have a tattoo
that I wish I would have notgotten, really yeah.
It's a ladybug and it looksjust like it looks like a beetle
now.
Like it's an ugly bug that youmight not want to pin, but you
can maybe get it like yeah, it'sin a spot that like doesn't
matter.
I do have one tattoo that Ilike.
(41:29):
It's white ink and it's aninfinity sign.
My lucky number is eight, so itmakes sense, and then I put a
period on it, just to be likeI'll put some more on about it,
but you can't see it, you can'treally see it.
So I think it's like a that'scool.
Speaker 3 (41:42):
I don't know, I do see it though.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
I see it, it's subtle , it's neat, it is neat.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
It's very neat.
Maybe next time.
Yes, white ink, neither it'sgood yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
Okay, ladies, where can we see you next?
Do you guys have any shows inline?
Speaker 3 (41:59):
Well, we're going to be playing at the Yogi Parogi
for all the Yogi's.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
Oh nice.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
Yeah, so that is April 6th, I think.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
I remember going and you saying it was like a wine
and you taught us how to likeplant a tree or something.
So that was at the yoga garden,okay.
Speaker 3 (42:20):
And we did, we sang, and then.
Speaker 1 (42:21):
Yeah, it was such a beautiful night.
Speaker 3 (42:23):
Yeah, so we'll probably do another one of those
, because I love thatenvironment, like the weather's
nice.
Yeah, so maybe we'll havesomething offered there.
We'll definitely keep youposted.
We usually post everything onour social media.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
Okay.
And tell us what those are, sothat our audience can find you.
Speaker 3 (42:40):
So my Instagram is trhnat and Nila's is Nila Lois.
Okay, n-i-l-a-h-l-o-i-s.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
And once you're next performance.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
I don't have any lined up right now you don't.
So if you want me to play ashow, let me know.
Yeah, we haven't, reallyhaven't had many lined up
recently.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
How does that work, though, for you, because, I mean
, people want to hear you.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
It kind of comes in like waves.
I guess, yeah, I noticed for awhile.
It's like all or nothing, it'slike show, show, show, no show.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
Okay, well, you know, you got nominated by Sombra
Mercy.
Yeah, that was so awesome.
Speaker 3 (43:22):
Yeah, I thought that was really good.
She really admires you yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
I think a lot of people do.
I know you guys have to leavefor whatever you guys have going
on today.
Do you have any parting wordsfor young people?
Because you're so put togetherand your head's on right, what
would you advise the youth outthere?
Speaker 2 (43:49):
Whatever you do, don't succumb to being quote
unquote normal.
Speaker 1 (43:54):
Okay, embrace anything.
Anything that's special aboutyou, is it?
Special, yeah, yeah yeah, Ithink when we were growing up,
the opposite message was sent tous.
Absolutely Conformer.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
You have to look this certain way, yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
And I really appreciate that and you and you
guys being here today because Ithink it's important for people
to hear a young lady likeyourself.
Yeah, just be so with it.
And I don't know if it'sbecause of the homeschooling and
the music and everything, butyou guys are doing something
incredibly right.
Speaker 3 (44:30):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
Yeah, you guys are both like super inspiring.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (44:34):
Tracy with all your yoga and art.
I love that Thanks.
So thank you for being heretoday, yeah thanks so much for
having us.
Yeah, if you guys ever need topromote anything.
Let us know Okay, and you guysare always welcome back.
Speaker 3 (44:48):
Yeah, thank you so much.
This was really wonderful,super awesome.
Speaker 1 (44:50):
It was a wonderful meeting you.
Oh yeah, do you guys want tonominate somebody?
Yes, Okay.
Psych.
Who's that?
Speaker 2 (44:59):
Psych, the local metal band.
Okay, oh my gosh, that would beso cool.
Speaker 1 (45:05):
She loves Psych.
Okay, is it a group?
Speaker 2 (45:08):
Two A duo A duo.
Speaker 3 (45:10):
Male duo.
Speaker 1 (45:11):
All right, Psych, come on down.
Speaker 3 (45:14):
Yes, yes.
Speaker 1 (45:15):
You're the next contestant?
Okay cool, We'll let them knowand we'll reach out.
We'll reach out to them too.
Speaker 2 (45:21):
Thank you so much.
You're looking for that video,Okay.
Speaker 1 (45:24):
I'll do it for you.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
Lila, yay Awesome.
Speaker 1 (45:26):
Cool, thank you, ladies.
Well, thanks so much for havingus have a good one.
Yeah, to be a sponsor ornominate a guest, hit us up on
Instagram at local underscorecelebrity underscore bravard.
Until next time, goodbye.
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Introducing… Aubrey O’Day Diddy’s former protege, television personality, platinum selling music artist, Danity Kane alum Aubrey O’Day joins veteran journalists Amy Robach and TJ Holmes to provide a unique perspective on the trial that has captivated the attention of the nation. Join them throughout the trial as they discuss, debate, and dissect every detail, every aspect of the proceedings. Aubrey will offer her opinions and expertise, as only she is qualified to do given her first-hand knowledge. From her days on Making the Band, as she emerged as the breakout star, the truth of the situation would be the opposite of the glitz and glamour. Listen throughout every minute of the trial, for this exclusive coverage. Amy Robach and TJ Holmes present Aubrey O’Day, Covering the Diddy Trial, an iHeartRadio podcast.
Betrayal: Season 4
Karoline Borega married a man of honor – a respected Colorado Springs Police officer. She knew there would be sacrifices to accommodate her husband’s career. But she had no idea that he was using his badge to fool everyone. This season, we expose a man who swore two sacred oaths—one to his badge, one to his bride—and broke them both. We follow Karoline as she questions everything she thought she knew about her partner of over 20 years. And make sure to check out Seasons 1-3 of Betrayal, along with Betrayal Weekly Season 1.
Crime Junkie
Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.