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When the echoes of your past shape the snapshots of your present, there's a story to tell. That's what we discovered in our latest conversation with Casey, a New York-born, California-drenched photographer whose life is as colorful as his portfolio. From his origins shadowing a journalist father to his abstract interpretations of the mundane, Casey's journey behind the lens is a vibrant tale of self-discovery. Whether it's the reflective surface of a still-life or the candid vibrancy of a music festival, his photography captures the essence of each moment, framing life's vast tableau with an artist's eye.

This episode isn't just about still images; it's a moving picture of Casey's adventures through the lens of reality TV and thumping beats of deep house music. Swapping anecdotes from the set of HGTV's 'Inside Out' to reminiscing over spinning tracks at Foo Bar, Casey peels back the curtain on the creative process, both on-screen and behind the decks. His stories meander through the streets of New Orleans, shimmer under the California sun, and touch upon the human connections that define our experiences—like the story of Becca, his barber, who now shapes more than just hairlines.

We wrap up with the sensory rush of photographing punk rock legends and the serene focus required to capture the morning surf. Casey gives us a glimpse into the dynamics of founding a new community post-relocation, contrasting the warmth of old friendships with the brisk handshake of industry acquaintances. Through it all, Casey's narrative is a testament to the power of passion, the beauty of embracing your roots, and the art of balancing life's contrasts, whether you're perched on a board waiting for the next wave or flashing a smile for the next shot.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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to the show.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
Hi, hey, hey.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
Casey.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
You grew up here, yeah.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
I did grow up here.
I grew up here, born in NewYork.
Born in New York, yeah City orcountryside no upstate Utica
White'sboro actually, but Uticanobody's ever heard of
White'sboro.
So Utica Then moved here when Iwas nine with my family, my
father.
It was in the newspaperindustry and got hired at the

(00:47):
Florida today.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
It was still kind of small, yeah Cool, before they
built a big building on US Oneand so we moved down here when I
was a kid what did he writeabout?
Oh, he did all kinds of things.
He worked on space programstuff he worked on.
He got pretty well known fordoing NASCAR coverage.
He was a columnist.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
I got out of a speeding ticket because a guy
knew who my dad was.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
That's really cool.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
Talked about Dale Earnhardt and he let me off.
He's like I can't give you aticket.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Tell your dad.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
I said hello.
That's really cool.
What school did you go to?

Speaker 3 (01:21):
O'Galley High School.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
And then BCC used to be called.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
Yeah, I went to BCC.
I loved BCC.
That's a good school Cool.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
So I picked up photography, really.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
Do you remember your teachers there as well?

Speaker 3 (01:37):
I do remember two of them very distinctly, but I
don't remember their names.
But they did have an impact onme actually yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
So you picked it up at BCC and what did you start?

Speaker 3 (01:47):
I actually was gonna go just for graphic design.
I was just going to school tokind of go to school and didn't
know what I wanted to do.
But it's a classic story whereyou do something and the lights
turn on all of a sudden.
So I took an intro tophotography class.
It was a black and whitephotography class with slides
and, oh yeah, Jason Noon was inthat class with me.

(02:08):
Lights out, project shout out,and I fell in love immediately.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
And then, from that moment on, I just changed all my
courses to photography courses.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
And just never stopped.
What did you startphotographing?
Like what?

Speaker 3 (02:26):
I started off pretty early being pretty abstract with
my photos like weird abstractstill life kind of things.
People will often describe itas like nuts and bolts and
whatnot.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
But it's just.
I've come to find that it'spart of my process is seeing the
story and the life thateverything actually has if you
stop and pay attention to it.
People walk past things all thetime when I'm constantly
searching my surroundings forlike just moments, it's really
interesting.
Light, you know different.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
Yeah, cause you do skating and surfing but you also
do, like portraitures and music.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
Yeah, music is one of my favorite things to shoot, is
it?
Oh yeah, it's so fun Causeyou're in it, you're live,
you're at the party.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
You have some really good shots.
Can we pull those up?
They're like gritty and itmakes you kind of feel like
you're there and you capturedthis woman.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
That is Becca.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
Yeah, what an amazing shot.
Traditional, it's cut shavesand bruise.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
She's my barber.
She cut my hair.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
Is she Very nice?
Yeah, I mean so much characterin that photo right there.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
Yeah, yeah, I did that at their ghouls night the
last time I was in town a fewmonths back and I was just kind
of, you know, shooting the partyfor them.
Yeah, we collaborate on a lotof things or very good friends
of mine.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
That's really cool.
I've also seen your work atDerek Gord's gallery, yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
I had a show there recently.
It was called Casey's liquor.
It was I had.
Yeah, I live in SouthernCalifornia now.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
Okay, when did you move?

Speaker 3 (04:04):
Seven years ago 2016.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
Okay, so a bit now, yeah, okay.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
Minus two kind of because of the COVID debacle.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
Yeah, that took away some time, so I kind of surfed
every day for about a year and ahalf.
Did they let you?

Speaker 3 (04:21):
Not very at first.
I found places to go where Icould surf, but there was a
couple of beaches that wereclosed.
That didn't really last long.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:30):
And you know you could find a way around it if
you know you're around town atall Sneak around town, but yeah,
so I did a lot of surfing.
But yeah, basically kind oflost two years of networking.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
But yeah, everybody did though, right.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
Still cool though.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
Yes, and you're doing television and actual movie
work down there.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
Yeah, yeah, I work on a lot of reality type
television shows.
What?

Speaker 1 (04:54):
do you work on?
I'm in reality TV.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
The last one I just got done with that I did a full
run on, was called Inside Out.
It was on HGTV.
It's not on HBO, max or Mac.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
Okay, what's that about?

Speaker 3 (05:07):
It's Carmine and Mike .
These two guys they kind ofbicker over who gets the bulk of
the renovation budget theinside of the house or the
outside, like landscaping.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
But the guys are hilarious.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
It's great.
They're super fun to work with,but that was a really fun
experience.
I think that show I don't thinkit's being renewed, but it's
great.
I think there's two seasons ofit- that it's really fun to work
on.
I got to do a lot of fun camerawork.
I was a camera operator on thatshow, oh nice.
I was able to take my styleinto the television world, which

(05:40):
actually Nate Harrington House8 Media.
My boss was very open tocreative shots on that show
which was really cool.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
Yeah, if the head honcho is.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
He's like let's get creative, let's do cool stuff.
That's really good, because alot of times all kind of bosses.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
Yeah, like really good footage, and at the end of
the day they're like this is toomuch, we can't use it.
Let's simplify it, let's dumbit down.
Oh, that's really fun when youget to use your skills.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's perfect.
That's why TV kind of workedfor me, because it's hard work
but it's always different.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
How long have you been doing it and how'd you get
into it?

Speaker 3 (06:17):
Since I moved.
So basically, I moved to workon a show in New Orleans called
Big Easy Motors, which is aphenomenal experience living in
New Orleans.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (06:28):
Walking around with my camera.
Every chance I got in NewOrleans was New York, and New
Orleans are probably two go-toplaces for the type of
photography I like to do.
No, not in that sense.
I haven't been back in quite awhile but, it is somewhere I aim
to get back to soon, just towalk around and shoot photos.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
Yeah, yeah.
Well, there's always a shotthere, right?

Speaker 3 (06:52):
Yeah, there's a shot everywhere.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
That's really cool.
And what do you do with movies?

Speaker 3 (06:56):
I do actually in movies.
I've been doing a lot of gripwork, so that's.
Oh, nice yeah but getting intothat realm is interesting and
fun, but it takes time.
You've got to work your way upthe ladder and whatnot.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
Do you know Alec Parker?

Speaker 3 (07:10):
I do not.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
He's also from here and he's oh, maybe I do yeah
he's a surfer, but also it'sdabbling in I don't know to what
capacity, Maybe justphotography and I'm terrible
with names.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
He could be my best friend and I might not remember
his name.
Second best friend maybe.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
He's really distinct.
He's got this curly wild hair.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
Oh, maybe I don't know, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
he was younger than me, so I don't know, maybe you
guys missed generations.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
Possibly I'm a little older.
Now I'm in this guy's category.
I'm a little older than you two.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
Well, I heard you used to Talking to the producer
over here.
Guys, yeah, jesse, jesse wastelling me that you guys work
together at the Foo Bar.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, tell me aboutthat.
It's back open.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
Oh man, that was a.
I got discovered by the ownerthat many of you out there know
who's the owner again At a houseparty.
The owner now is bare.
He used to work there, but theformer owner was Kimberly.
She no longer owns Foo Bar butshe saw me DJing at a house
party at my house and you know Iwas just playing some like deep

(08:17):
Miami house, you know somefunky stuff, and she dug it and
she was opening this new poshplace.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
It was so cool.
When it opened she was like,hey, you'd be perfect.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
And I was like what, like, tell me about it.
And I went and hung out withher before it was opened.
We hung out there a lot beforeit was open, maybe a month, two
months.
It was just ready and done, butthe doors were just closed, so
it kind of had that littlemystique to it.
But anyway, the first night Iwent in there it was her and her
interior designer.
She designed the place and wejust hung out and drunk wine all

(08:49):
night and partied and I playedmusic for him and it was great.
But that was basically how thatplace was.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
It was just like a little clubhouse with super rad.

Speaker 3 (08:58):
I met all my best friends there, every different
walk of life.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
And you would just play music for them.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
I would show up.
My kind of backbone in thatplace, which was also
interesting, was like kind ofmore deep house and tech house,
because Brevard in SouthernFlorida is known for break beats
and kind of more Miami basedstyle music.
So going into it I knew that Iwanted to play the groovy stuff,
the stuff that I like More deep.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
And people appreciated that.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
Yeah, I think it worked more because the place
was so cool and different.
The music was cool anddifferent.
The vibe was cool and differentwhat years were that 2006.
2006, I think 2006.
Jesse, jesse coming through.
Where's the Google work man.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
Jesse were you.
Yeah, but yeah, the place isfantastic.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
Yeah, like.

Speaker 3 (09:53):
I said I met all of it.
I met Becca the Becca oh.
Yeah, yeah, check these out arethese available online?

Speaker 1 (10:04):
and that Becca there and Rob five when he's case shop
.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
Oh, she's rad.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
Yeah, she's the best where is she bartending at the
she works at traditional'scaches and brews.

Speaker 3 (10:13):
Okay, she's a hairstyle.
I keep hearing about that place.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
It's both a barbershop and a bar.

Speaker 3 (10:19):
A bar in the skate shop next door and Santa
Collective is next door.
That and Derek Gore's galleryis around the corner.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
Yeah, and that's where it's at now.
That's, it's the new, it's the.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
It's a you know it's going to be.
Downtown Melbourne on steroidsis gonna be better than it was
down there.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
Yeah, it's more chill , it's more of an art vibe.
So there's also that secondstory venue, pineapple.
Oh, there's a couple otherplaces.
Yeah, they're building one.
I.

Speaker 3 (10:44):
Saw DRI at pineapples the other night.
That was wild.
I came into town, I went andsaw Robert 518 and he's like hey
, dri is playing tonight.
It was my first day in town,like I just got here.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
Yeah he's.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
I was like oh yeah, yeah, it was sick, it was sick,
it was awesome, I was likepineapples no way.
It was odd, unexpected, butthat's kind of how Melbourne.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
Tends to be like that , you know back in the day kind
of was yeah, it's just biggernow.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
We have more access now I think what to?

Speaker 1 (11:14):
choose from, but it was always kind of sick like
that.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
I mean oh.

Speaker 3 (11:19):
Well, when things started, derek Clifton, chandler
, myself a bunch of people.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
I wasn't there was around.

Speaker 3 (11:27):
Like you know, the foobar opened, like we're doing
so many things, and gallerieswere opening and we were just
throwing.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
Yeah, no, I was here for that.
I left in like 2003.

Speaker 3 (11:39):
Dude.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
Growth and like I would always come back like on
Thanksgiving or Christmas andjust go to like Igobods or
something.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
Yeah, I like about some Christmas.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
It was, yeah, is it still?

Speaker 3 (11:53):
I don't know Haven't drank on here on Christmas in a
minute.
You were in Jacksonville justrecently, yeah, I went up there
to visit with some friends andsee my fiance's Grandmother and
family.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
You're newly engaged.
I am cool.
Congratulations, thank you verymuch.
Thank you very much, the videois kind of popular.
Oh my god, how did you do it?

Speaker 3 (12:22):
No idea.
Um, I Was waiting for her tolike come up with a plan to go
like do something excited.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
I wanted to just play it super dry yeah and she's
like man, we need to get out oftown.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
I was like yeah, Sure , I'll go back down to Laguna
again because she liked it.
We went to Laguna Beach onetime.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
She really liked it.

Speaker 3 (12:40):
She's like yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
But was she planning it, knowing that?

Speaker 3 (12:45):
you know she had no clue, she just she just wanted
to like, not even a weekend,just drive out of town for a day
, just cruise around.
So you're like let's go take apicture on that rock that we
took a picture on last time.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
I was like Now, do you take your own pictures?
Do you bring the tripod?
I just know, I just had myphone, okay, and I was like okay
, I'm gonna set it on a timerand I like set it up and when I
hit record it was recordingvideo.

Speaker 3 (13:08):
Oh my goodness, that was fun.
I will give it a.
Give it a look.
It's on my case.
It goes to Instagram so you canwatch for yourself to see how
it happens this past year.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
It's pretty funny though.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
Um, yeah, I happened A couple months ago, wow.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
Are you guys already planning wedding Now that?
We're home, our own family,it's oh yeah, I'm bet you're
getting a lot of questionsstarting into Be more serious
yeah.
Will you get married here?

Speaker 3 (13:38):
Yeah, I'm sure we will.

Speaker 1 (13:39):
Yeah, there I, it's Jesse's telling me that I have
to, so I have to.
He's the boss.
Have you guys seen Casablanca?

Speaker 3 (13:47):
Oh, I'm sure it'll be fantastic.
I think we might have to dosomething small Um yeah, you
guys a ceremony and then havesomething afterwards, so that
everybody in Brevard County cancome.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
You guys should check out Casa Bonita, because I
can't not invite every singleperson.

Speaker 3 (14:01):
I know because I love everybody so much yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
No, there's a new venue and it's super cute and it
sounds like it's intimate, andthen you can have a little party
there.
There's a bar.
Have you heard of it?
No it's like what is it?

Speaker 3 (14:14):
Casa Bonita, maybe I've heard of it.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
No, it's brand-new.
Do you know the Cinegoys?

Speaker 2 (14:20):
Yeah it's her place.

Speaker 3 (14:21):
Oh, no way somebody like it's a team of people.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
It's a really nice Start by 7-eleven.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
Okay, that's Spanish looking cool, cool, cool drop in
there with your fiance Allright, I don't know you're gonna
be blown away.
Well, I dropped off at theairport this morning.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
Oh, you did she gone?
Oh, all right pictures Susie'sher name.

Speaker 3 (14:43):
Yeah, how did you guys meet?
Oh, oh yeah, I'm around townjust here, yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
Oh, so both of you left.

Speaker 3 (14:49):
No, I left and dated her for six years long distance.
Yeah, it worked out perfect.
I was busy, she was busy, itworked, we liked each other, so
it didn't matter, I was, youknow so you met you with it.
We were tight To go do your TVproduction work in school and
stuff, and she was working realhard.
So school.
Here we were busy, so you knowit worked.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
Yeah, yeah, it worked , but you would go see, oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (15:12):
We'd see each other all time.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
Yeah, oh my gosh.
And so has she moved.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
Yeah, Killer spot and killer yeah where you at seal
beach, just south of Long Beach.
Okay, I'm close to LA, wheremost of my jobs are yeah but I'm
far enough away that it's See,you'll be just kind of isolated.
There's like a naval stationand like a bridge over to Long
Beach, so it's kind of like itsown little spot.

(15:37):
It's right on the beach I surfevery day that I'm not working
Cool.
Yeah, you have managers thecoffee shop right in front of
our house.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
Really, oh my gosh, that's pretty great.

Speaker 3 (15:50):
It's expensive and it's hard.
The industry I'm in is not likeguaranteed, so yeah, no, I know
, I mean.
I could work non-stop for threemonths, and then I have a job
again for another couple months.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
I think I worked one month last year or two and I
just got back on a gig.
So I hear you, yeah.

Speaker 3 (16:09):
It's like a day here, two days there, like yeah, but
if you get on a show, yeah andyou know even that the short,
you know day playing stuff whereyou just work in a couple days.
I mean the pay is decent, soit's okay you know it's it's
enough to like hold your over alittle bit.
Yeah, you know, consistency isthe key, but it's hard to be

(16:29):
consistent.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
Yeah, you really need to get on show.
That's already doing well andyeah, I got a hustle.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
Yeah lots of different types of work to keep
it going most of people.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
I know have down at the drive.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
Uber or they, you know, do you have different
things to?

Speaker 1 (16:42):
supplement.
I heard that I mean there'slike forums, like on Facebook,
of people being like what isgoing on in the industry?
What are you guys doing to stayafloat, because lately it's
been really dry?
Yeah yeah, but I mean it's.
I don't think it's.

Speaker 3 (16:58):
I guess it depends.
I guess it depends on what yourgig is.
But yeah, yeah, yeah, there wasdefinitely obviously the
strikes.
The strikes, yeah, kind ofchanged the landscape a little
bit.
They did, but there's still alot of non-union stuff that you
can work on or do your ownprojects, which I'm very into.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
Yeah, I'm doing my own project, so your latest
project is the t-shirts.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I love thatone.

Speaker 3 (17:21):
This is the next one, I think.
So it's just another kind ofart project I love.
I'm a t-shirt freak.
I have way, way, way too manyand continue to purchase them,
and I've always wanted to makemy own yeah.
But until kind of more recentlyit was harder to do, but now
there's ways to do it.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
I don't have to like, order 10 of them, or, yeah,
order 100 of them to make themaffordable.

Speaker 3 (17:48):
Right, which I've looked into doing Did you tell
us where we could get themKCDCodismyshopifycom right now.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
And the link is in your Instagram bio.
Yeah, and.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
Facebook and whatnot Very awesome.
But, right now I only have theRekka Beka up, the one that I
showed you.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
Oh, really.

Speaker 3 (18:06):
That's the first one.
I'm going to be kind ofmeticulous about it.
That's kind of part of how Ienvisioned this project.
You know it'll change as Ichange, I imagine.
But to take my time, I guess,is a more accurate way to do it.
You know, pick the specifict-shirt I wanted on.
I don't want to have like10,000 colors.

(18:28):
Like I want this color, thist-shirt.
Boom, here it is.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
It's like I like that philosophy yeah.

Speaker 3 (18:35):
Because it's an art project.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
You can't rush it.

Speaker 3 (18:38):
That you can wear.
But you want it to be likebeing a t-shirt fanatic, Like
I'll buy a t-shirt If I don'tlike the t-shirt, no matter how
dope the print is, I'm notwearing it, I'm just.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
it's see you later.
Do you have favorite brands andcuffs?

Speaker 3 (18:52):
Yeah, there's a couple.
Ok Player is rad.
They just record label OKPlayer.
They did the roots and whatnot.
But they have a killer shop.
Yeah, there's a few out there.
There's another one, I can'tthink of the name of it right
now, but yeah, there's a fewthat I frequent.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
So are you just sticking to t-shirts, or does
the shop have?
I have sweat shirts also, ok.

Speaker 3 (19:17):
And the better I get at interacting with the things
that I have to use, the tools Ihave to use to build all this
stuff.
I'm sure more things will beavailable, but it's going to be
essentially tops for now.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
Do you think you'll like put them up at like local
shops?

Speaker 3 (19:33):
at all, possibly One step at a time.
This is still very new, so fornow I want to kind of get a hang
of getting the t-shirts out,doing them right, making them
look good, making sure they haveeverything I want them to have,
and then kind of one step at atime.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
Yeah, will they be like limited supply?

Speaker 3 (19:52):
No, no, I don't think so.
I mean there may be one here orthere, that might be limited
supply.
But I have to get my feet onthe ground, really.
And get a little organized withhow I want to do these and
release them.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
Cool, and we'll look forward to seeing that yeah.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
Maybe we'll get Jessie on one.
He's giving me a thumbs up, soI think that's a yes guys.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
I love t-shirts like that.
You know, Shargood.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
Yeah, she just had.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
I don't know who did the photography, but she just
released a couple that arereally clever.

Speaker 3 (20:23):
Yeah, I've seen she's got some cool stuff out there.
She actually spoke to her aboutFood Bar on Facebook the other
day.
She's like, oh, I was too youngfor the Food Bar and I was like
, oh, you would have fit rightin that place would have been
perfect for her.
She would have played violinwhile DJing, guaranteed.
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
Guaranteed.

Speaker 3 (20:39):
I used to bring friends in with bongo drums or
plug in barfly RJ's guitar intomy mixer and have him like riff,
like blues riff.
So I was mixing and stuff.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
I loved doing stuff like that.
That's awesome.
So what have you been up tothis holiday season?

Speaker 3 (20:57):
Man, what haven't I been up to Making the rounds,
really, I shot the agnosticfront show Iron Oak.
That's the highlight of my tripso far, minus seeing my family
and friends.
But that was sick.
518.
Put that on Rob.
What up, rob, it was sick.

(21:19):
Murphy's Law it's the firsttime I saw Murphy's Law live and
it was sick.
It was a loved it.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
And you photographed.
Oh yeah, I'll stop in there.
Yeah, it was great.
That's like my favorite thingto do.
Is that it Right there?
Oh, yeah, yeah yeah, yeah,that's Murphy's.

Speaker 3 (21:34):
Law.
That's something he does everyshow.
I guess he opens a beer, thenhe likes a joint and passes it
around.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
Oh my, gosh, this shot is amazing.
That's yeah, that's sick.
Were you on the stage and thenhe popped out?

Speaker 3 (21:48):
No, I was holding the camera above my head and
walking around, there was a pitgoing over.
So see, those guys are kind ofcircling in.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (21:58):
Stigma and there's a pit around the guys blocking
stigma so he could play.
It was so rad.
Oh my god.
I got a bunch of shots of that.
I've only posted maybe two,three shots so far.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
They're so good I've got so many.
How do you get the lighting todo that?

Speaker 3 (22:16):
I was using flash.

Speaker 1 (22:17):
You were.

Speaker 3 (22:18):
Yep, yep, yep.
I usually don't.
I'm not known for using flash,but I've been like way more into
it recently and I've beenlooking forward to.
I came early for the show.
I flew to Florida early so Icould shoot this show because I
was like, I came and rock theflash.
I got some new things I wasgonna try and that was a perfect
opportunity.
So when Rob told me about theshow, I was like I'll just book

(22:40):
my flight early so I could comeand get stuff like this.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
So, that's why I live for this.
I love that so much Amazing.
What else do we have?
Yes, this one's on your t-shirt.
I'm wearing that, yeah.

Speaker 3 (22:51):
It's my friend Ryan Dodge.
She's a chef for the Broncosnow, but he's local from here.
Also a foobar cat.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
Oh really, he's a local.

Speaker 3 (23:01):
Oh yeah, yeah was.
He lives in Denver, but he camedown and visited me for three,
four days.
We just drove around and skatedand shot photos.
I mean this one's amazing Gothim, you know.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
It looks like religious almost.

Speaker 3 (23:15):
Rocking his board right on the sun.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
I was at Long Beach.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
Cool, I love this one .
Yep wearing it, it's my nephew.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
Oh, that's a place I've Channel Street Skate Park.
I found it by chance under abridge in San Pedro.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
Really.

Speaker 3 (23:32):
Yeah, so you drive over, like the Long Beach, where
all the shipping is and whatnot, and there's San Pedro out
there and there's a skate parkunder a bridge.
That's like a DIY style, andyeah, so me and my nephew did
the same thing.
Me and Ryan did.
Just drove around, looked forskate parks shot photos.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
This one's your nephew.

Speaker 3 (23:53):
Yep, yep, Nevin Martin.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
Cool, you have family over there.
No, nobody's over there.

Speaker 3 (23:58):
My friend Laura Littman.
Hi Laura lives in up north nearSan Francisco, but that's kind
of it.
Close friends wise.
I have some local friendsfinally, it took me a few years
to get friends out there, butthat was the hardest part.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
It is a hard part.

Speaker 3 (24:14):
Because here it's like the mafia.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
I know everybody.

Speaker 3 (24:17):
Yeah, melbourne mafia .

Speaker 1 (24:20):
All right.
Do you have like industryfriends though?

Speaker 3 (24:23):
Yeah, yeah, that's where I met the people that I'm
friends with.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
It's either that or like neighbors.

Speaker 3 (24:27):
But very few of them do you actually become friends
with.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
You know like.

Speaker 3 (24:33):
I have numbers and I say hey man, how you doing, but
there's only a couple of people,a handful of people that are
actually like they're my homiesyeah.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
Do you guys do like holiday parties and stuff your?

Speaker 3 (24:45):
cruise.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
Or like rap parties.

Speaker 3 (24:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
I mean there's rap parties.

Speaker 3 (24:49):
There's rap parties when you're done with a gig that
are usually pretty crazy.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
They're fun, they're fun.
Oh, this one's nice.
Where's that one at?

Speaker 3 (24:58):
That's on the beach here.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
Really.

Speaker 3 (25:02):
Yeah, last time I was here.
I wake up so super early thesedays.
I don't know when that startedhappening, but I wake up at like
five o'clock every morning.
I came here and I'm waking upfive o'clock every morning, and
so I decided to go run aroundtown, shoot some photos, maybe
start a new project based aroundthis area, possibly Just start

(25:26):
collecting images.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
Did you use like a special lens on this one?

Speaker 3 (25:29):
This is a 16 millimeter 2.8 Canon.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
So crisp.

Speaker 3 (25:34):
But that's 16 mil Using my.
I have a new gear.
I have a Canon R5 that I'musing now, so that's shot with
that.
So it's very high megapixelsvery, very nice fancy camera.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
It's almost like you could touch the grit of the sand
there.
I love it.

Speaker 3 (25:54):
I love it.
When I shoot that, I imagine itlike gigantic, big printed,
like somewhere.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
Got a wall wallpaper it.

Speaker 3 (26:02):
Oh, this cross street for my house in California.
Oh yeah, yeah, that was lasttwo Januarys ago.
It was a bomb cyclone swell.
So the surf it's like this.
It's like this right now.
Check surf, find guys, checkSouthern California breaks and
surf find.
It's huge.
Right now I saw the reports are10, 15 feet.
I was looking at a place inNewport that I surf all the time

(26:25):
and it was gigantic.
Anyway, that last shot was aplace that I've heard of, that
my friend, tommy in California,told me about.
He says, oh yeah, sometimes itbreaks out at the end of the
jetty.
I was like whatever, andthere's an oil rig out there
called Esters and he said itbreaks.
Sometimes it breaks out by thatjetty and it breaks at the oil

(26:45):
rig.
And I was like that's, I mean Ibelieve them because he's from
there.
But I was like this is not true, how is that even possible?
Because I surf out there allthe time.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
And you never saw it.

Speaker 3 (26:55):
I mean you can't even imagine how it's possible for
waves to break where they werebreaking.
But literally I don't think Isent you guys a copy of the
photo, but I have a photo of aguy going back side grabbing his
rail and you could see the oilrig in the background.
It's actually quite far awaybut there was guys towing in on

(27:18):
like foils and stuff on thewaves that route, by the jetty
or not by the jetty, but the oilthat would make a really good
picture, but it was wild, but aweird.
I have a few these printed inCalifornia that have sold and,
like you know, I hang out in thecoffee shop and stuff yeah, do
do hang them in galleries or two, not yet not yet.
I'm eyeing a couple places,I've talked to a couple people,

(27:38):
but I haven't found that likesomebody I like, really like it
yeah, might just do what westarted doing here and just find
a place that maybe isn't evensupposed to be for that at all
and just throw a party yeah sothat's probably what I'll end up
doing.
I'll line up some musicians andI'll do cool stuff.
You know, just take the vibeout there yeah.
I brag about this area all thetime, oh yeah it's like a little

(28:02):
, because I'm like oh where youfrom.
I'm like oh Florida andeverybody's like oh Florida.
A lot of people are familiar.
I mean they travel and peopledo things.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
But yeah, but they don't know that it's actually
super sick here yeah like I meanpeople from here.

Speaker 3 (28:15):
You guys know, you guys do this.
We even come back all the time,man we have, like you know,
internationally known artistsand bands and, you know, people
doing interesting things, allkinds of industries too, right?

Speaker 1 (28:30):
oh yeah, forget about me that's really cool that you
visit.
How often you come back?
Probably at least twice a yearbut you're still tied to the
area, because what do you?
What is your title at Livewire?
I'm creative director andphotographer and you share that
with Chris Maslow yeah, creativedirector yeah, and barfly RJ

(28:53):
okay, okay but RJ, rj, reallydoes the brunt of the work yeah,
how's that going?

Speaker 3 (29:01):
it's going all right.
Right now we're reformattinghow we release it.
Yeah, I think you know RJ'sover one with work and so we
want to go maybe less times ayear and just thicker and better
and prettier.
I think that makes sense, yeah.
So yeah, I've taken a couplesteps back right now to take
three forward later.
Yeah and yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
So yeah, keep an eye out, yeah, how does like a
musician get your attention?
Contact us, contact us, okay.
Facebook message.

Speaker 3 (29:32):
Instagram.
Yeah, it's basically myself orRJ barfly kind of running
through most that stuff and wetake.
We take people like yourself,my friend, over here.
Anybody who hits us up is like,hey, oh, check out this person
or that person, or super into ityeah, I mean it's small as
we're time.
You know, it's not like this isa giant thing going on.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
Yeah, but it's prominent, it's.
Let's tell them that you weretrying to find one in town and
you just couldn't.
Yeah, I came in, I came in andshe was like hey, man, can you
like to?

Speaker 3 (30:06):
show the mag and I'm like, oh, I didn't think of it,
I didn't bring any.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
I was like.

Speaker 3 (30:10):
I'll run down to a galley and grab a couple and I
went to like six places andeverybody's like oh no,
everybody likes them, they take,that's what they said three
people said that to me.
Well, everybody likes them.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
They did they snatch them up okay cool, I guess now I
have nothing to bring.
I know, just my smiling faceyes, well, yeah, it's
bittersweet to hear that theywon't be so consecutive, but
everybody loves them, so, yeah,I think it'll be better to be
honest with you, there'd be moreattention more time you know to

(30:41):
really get it yeah, I mean, I'mall about that.

Speaker 3 (30:44):
I'm very critical over critical.
I'm sure I've learned to stop.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
You know, cut yourself off like okay, it's
good yeah, don't mess with ituntil next month yeah, but uh,
do you find it hard to like findpeople in town, to like
delegate the work to?

Speaker 3 (31:02):
sort of.
I mean because at this pointit's not a paid gig for anybody.
I mean, we were trying to setup a way where you could get
some money, but it was basicallymore of a passion project, just
another art project.
Yeah, you know, as I'm kind ofknown to do, but that's kind of
how it started.
And then there's this like moreinterest and where people liked

(31:24):
it, and but you know, it's just, it's a lot to juggle for like
one person or two people threeor right so okay, but uh, yeah,
but we were always looking forpeople to who were interested in
writing or creating their ownkind of segment.
You know what I mean.
Like somebody to cover a punkscene, like like goes out all
the time and just like wants towrite.

(31:45):
Like it's an opportunity foranybody who's interested in
being creative and havingsomething in print like it's
there.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
That's good to know.
I think there's a lot of likehungry young ins around.
That's what we're hoping for.
That's what I was.

Speaker 3 (31:57):
I was telling my friend Barfly that we need to
maybe find some young kids whoare maybe into sales.
Have some time where peoplewere just into being involved if
somebody came to me when I was25 and was like hey, we got this
thing.
We're just looking who wants to?
Wants to do something?

Speaker 1 (32:16):
sick in print oh.

Speaker 3 (32:17):
I'll be all over it yeah, and then I'd have ten
people with me yes you know whatI mean.
So I don't.
But I you know, I don't livehere anymore.
I'm not in touch as much withthe younger, the younger folk in
town.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
I know all the old farts all right to send my niece
in there do you think you'llever come back and live here?
I don't know.
I mean anything is possible.
Never, I mean I love it here.

Speaker 3 (32:45):
I miss it every single time.
I hate going back to Calvaryand strong time, but then when I
wake up in a couple days andit's head high and yeah, peaky
surf, I'm gonna be pretty happywell, it's really nice having
you here is there anything elsethat we can look forward to for

(33:05):
2024?
man just keep.
I mean, I'll be coming up withprojects all year, I'm sure yeah
driving around doing somethingand I'll be back here, hopefully
for the next punk in the park,which the dates may change, but
I want to come shoot that so.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
I'll be here for that , for sure.
What is that, jesse?
When it's it's up in the air,oh really, but is it spring time
, summer time?

Speaker 3 (33:27):
typically it's in May .
I think, but that might change,just cuz rain and stuff yeah, I
don't know, I'm not.
I have nothing to do with anyof that scheduling or anything
like that, so I just want toshoot it completely out of my
knowledge base yeah, yeah.
I just want to shoot it.
So whenever it is, I'll bethere and you'll take time off
for work yeah, I might not beworking, or if I am, I'll take

(33:50):
time off.
Yeah, 100% these days, cool,cool.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
It was really nice meeting you yeah, you too for
stopping by the studio mypleasure and hopefully we'll see
you again when you come backawesome.

Speaker 3 (34:01):
Yeah, I'd love to cool.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
Thank you all right thanks to be a sponsor or
nominate a guest.
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