December 4, 2023 • 47 mins
What if art could be a beacon of inspiration, an instrument of resilience in the face of adversity? This episode illuminates the powerful journey of Honduran artist Andrea Castaneda, whose life and creations reflect strength and survival. Born and raised in a country marred by violence, Andrea discovered art to be her sanctuary, her means to communicate, inspire, and heal. She candidly shares her life experiences, from dealing with the tumultuous socio-political landscape in her home country to enduring bullying and coming to terms with being diagnosed with bipolar disorder and autism.
Discover how Andrea uses art as a means to navigate through her struggles and channel her experiences into a medium for education and empathy. We dissect the symbolism in her artwork, from the recurring motif of the color blue to a poignant piece on animal captivity. The conversation takes a somber yet inspiring tone as we delve into the importance of recognizing and understanding conditions like autism and bipolar disorder. You'll get to see how art can be a powerful tool in raising awareness and fostering empathy for these struggles.
We also talk about Ben, the 32-year-old artist's partner who has played a crucial role in managing her bipolar disorder. Andrea's candidness as she narrates her experiences in pursuing opportunities and navigating the world of solo exhibits, despite her shyness, is truly inspiring. We round out the episode with a vibrant conversation on spirituality, cultural differences, and future aspirations. This is an episode that promises to inspire, enlighten, and reminds us of the undeniable healing power of art. Tune in and let these stories touch your heart and mind.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Hello, I'm here with AndreaCastaneda.
I've seen your artwork allaround town.
You've been in galleries in NewYork City.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Miami.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Washington DC, Italy.
I saw that.
Milan, right, yes.
And what brings you here?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Well, I came here with my boyfriend Ben, and so we
decided to live here becauseit's a nice city.
But bring me in the UnitedStates.
I study in Georgia, savannah.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
University of Savannah College of Art and
Design.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I wanted to go there too.
Wait, let's take it back,though.
You're from Honduras, you wereborn there, yes, and when did
you come to the States?
Speaker 2 (01:04):
So I came to study to the States on 2014.
How old were you?
I was like 24.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Okay, not 22.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
I was a long time ago .
I'm 32 now, okay.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Okay, so you've been here for about 10 years.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
No, like I went back and forward, back and forward.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
From Honduras to the States.
Yeah, back and forward.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Yes, because school was just a little bit expensive.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Okay, so you went back and forth.
What gave you the privilege toactually come to the States?
Because I don't know much aboutHonduras, but because you were
gonna be a guest on the show, Istarted researching.
Tell me about your life there.
Was it hard In Honduras?
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Yeah Well it's like I travel a lot because my mom is
a chemical engineer.
So I live in Honduras for 13years.
Then we went to Mexico, then westudy over there.
So in Honduras, yeah, it'stough because it's beautiful
(02:10):
it's a beautiful country.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
I saw that it was beautiful, but there was a lot
of violent crime and the highestmurders of females yes yes, san
Pedro Sula was one of the onetime.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
It was like the first city that has most crimes and
violence and it was hard becausesometimes, like it's scary to
go out.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Yeah, it said you shouldn't go out at night.
Is that how you felt?
Yeah, you feel like trappedsometimes.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Oh my gosh, yeah, so you cannot walk in the streets.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
So is it like gangs, or is it just like mismanaged to
the core?
Speaker 2 (02:51):
So is there's like gangs, they call it like the
Madas, okay, and they are likethe dangerous ones because in
order to get into the Madas,they have like the top people
tell them oh, you have to dolike something bad to a random
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person in order to get in.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
To get initiated into the gang.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Yeah, and what is it based off of?
Is it drugs or just violence?
Like it's like a mix ofeverything.
A mix of everything.
Were you at all like affectedby it personally?
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Well, when I went to Mexico, I got how do you say it?
Like Rob one time.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
You got robbed in Mexico, yeah what?
Speaker 2 (03:38):
part.
The name was Polanco, mexicoCity.
Okay, and like I was walking inthe streets and someone like
point me with something in mybag.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
And then they told me , oh, give me everything you
have.
And then I start crying, no, no, like it's a crazy, super,
super bad, because it was superscary.
And the guy was like give meeverything, give me everything.
And I couldn't stop like crying, crying, uh-huh.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Did you give him everything?
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Like I tried, but then the guy I was taking so
much long yeah, and I had likelike 30 pesos, that's like one
dollar.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
So not much.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Yeah, In that time I was like super, how do you say
it?
Like send, like I didn't like,like very bohemian, I didn't
like to have cell phones.
So he was like give me yourcell phone, I'm like I don't
have one.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
I don't have one, I don't have cell phone.
The wrong person.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
OK, so I did read that you quoted saying that we
will enjoy seeing some of yourbeautiful artwork produced from
the mind of a survivor of ableak land.
Is that what you're talkingabout when you talk about that?
Are you talking about Honduras,or can you talk about any
surviving stories?
(05:02):
Because your artwork to me isvery ethereal, very storybook,
very much from the imagination.
But when I'm reading yourquotes I'm like whoa, she's gone
through some stuff and I knowyou've talked about bullying too
and coming out of that.
Can you share that?
Speaker 2 (05:23):
with us.
Oh yeah, no, no problem,because I think that, like
that's going to help some people.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Like well, like well.
I've been suffering andbullying all my life because I
have, like people are disordered.
What?
Is that Bipolar disorder.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Oh, you're bipolar OK .
Speaker 2 (05:42):
And also I have autism.
Ok, so that's made me be like alittle bit different from
everyone else, sure, and sosince I was little, I was like,
because of the autism, I waslike out, you know, like in the
spectrum.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Yeah, I'm so curious about autism too, because, a
it's not talked about enough, bit's kind of like a new.
Whether it's new, you know tojust hear about it more now
these days, I think people wantto know and recognize it.
So you're saying that when youwere young you would just space
out.
(06:19):
What other symptoms are like?
What do we see?
Speaker 2 (06:25):
You can see like a change of behavior that like you
don't have something, you wantsomething and someone tells you
no, you start like crying like ababy OK, or like you don't
follow something in some rulesbecause like it's a spectrum, so
it's like different fromeveryone else.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Yeah, it's a big spectrum.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
So, like some of them doesn't like music, for example
, like music affects mesometimes because it made me
like, put me like anxious.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
And then, like it made me want to like drink a
beer or something.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Really so.
Does it depend what music Like?
If you're listening to punkrock, you know you get the
anxiety or your heart beatingversus like Bob Marley.
Does it chill you out?
Speaker 2 (07:13):
No, like it depends yeah, it depends on the mood,
but like every song made me likebeat my heart and I don't like
that.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
So it's like different because, like
sometimes I'm like super out,like I can stay like just
thinking in one thing, and whenI'm like I like I'm thinking at
all, I'm just like like spaceout, totally.
Yeah, like this.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Like when someone's talking to you you have trouble
like following along yeahsometimes I have trouble.
You go into your own mind.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Yeah, so if I like, I'm out, you're like, yeah, be
careful.
Like, oh, yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
I feel like I'm back.
So I bet school was hard.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Yeah, I was For those reasons yeah, I was super hard,
like, and yeah, that's why theybullied me, because I was, like
, super different and because ofthe bipolar disorder, I was
like crying all the time, I getangry and getting trouble.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
The time.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
I get exposed who do not like.
I get kicked out on time fromthe school.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
You did, yeah what happened.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
I was.
I was super rebel, I like thedirector of the school because I
was like I would have liketrouble like following the like
the curriculum or the rulesclasses, like I was like if he's
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biology, I was like super slowif math, but like in every class
it's taking me like right somuch it take me like a while to
learn stuff.
And the director told me, oh,you're super, you don't deserve
to be in school.
And then like I just tell hersomething bad because she told
(09:04):
me that.
Yeah.
And then like she was like, oh,so you won't be in the school
anymore.
And then she just let me dothat, like the tests and some
homework, so I can pass theschool without being there
anymore.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Were you like disruptive, or were you just not
?
I mean, I think some kids don'tbelong in a school setting at
all.
Would you say you are one ofthose kids?
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Um, well, I did have friends, I did was like social
somehow, but I put an attentionto school.
It was super hard.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Yeah, do you think that you found art sort of
relieving?
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Yes, I think that was like relieving, because there's
no rules in art.
Yeah, like I don't know, sinceI was a little kid, like with my
sister and like my dad, likealways, like we painted all the
time.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
So I never stopped it , actually, like I wanted to be
a psychologist and my mom and mydad told me no, andrea, you're
a painter, you're an artist, youshould study.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Yeah, yeah, so you've been painting.
I mean, your work is so great.
Can we, can we take a look atsome of it?
Jesse, my favorite painting ofyours is the chimp with the uh,
the butterflies coming out.
That one, yes.
Can you tell me about this one?
Oh well, that's interesting.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
So when I went to the zoo like four years ago, no,
like three years ago toWashington DC, I saw that in one
part of the suit there was likethe monkey, the chimpanzee, the
gorillas, and then I saw themlike super sad and I was about
to cry because they look likereally, sometimes they look like
(11:05):
humans, yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
And all the animals like I don't know.
I don't want to talk about Zeus.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
No, but there's plenty to say about Zeus.
Let me, let's be honest.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
And uh, well, the thing is that, like I saw, their
eyes were like crystallized oflike pain and like they and they
, literally they look like theywere like in the floor, like all
dirty and and then I say likeI'm going to represent these
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chimpanzees as as kings, aslight, so so people can see
their eyes and see like the painthey have.
And uh, he did a beautiful jobwith this one and the
butterflies are like freedom andthe crown is like all animals
like deserve to be treated likekings, like queens.
(12:01):
Yeah, have the freedom.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
I also noticed a lot of your artwork has this very
deep blue in it.
You see it in a bunch of yourpieces.
The Maryland has blue behind itand there's different ways that
you paint.
There's the one with the childsitting on the chair and I mean,
(12:28):
like all of these have thisblue background sort of behind
them.
Is that?
Is that something that you evenlike realize that you do, that
you do and like realize that youdo, that you use a certain blue
all the time?
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Um, yes, is I like the water, the ocean?
Okay, so it's like arepresentation of of the water
because, like when I grew up inHonduras, like, like the beach
was 15, like 15 minutes away.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Well, that good one was 30 minutes away.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Uh huh.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
So like I grew up like in the water environment,
so that gives you peace yeah,give me peace.
And also like, like when it'sat night, like a little bit of
intensity, because I'm fromLatin America and like we are
like very expressive you know,like very dramatic.
(13:25):
Yeah, I like to add like somedrama to my artwork.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Yeah, yeah, it is very dramatic, but in a good way
, and some of it's very soft andother things are very like loud
in your face.
There's like a balance to yourpieces.
Do you think some of the morelike when you're, uh, depicting
children or teddy bears was thatin the past.
Now you're doing more of these,like you know, like I saw one
(13:51):
with glasses like the onesyou're wearing on your head
today.
It's more like pop culture orlike party fun.
Have you gone through phases?
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Oh, yeah, and so so it's like depends on the humor
in the humor.
I feel that sometimes I feellike like in peace, like a like
a child.
Some other times I feel like Iwant to go to party.
Yeah, sometimes I feel like alot of like intensity in my
(14:23):
heart.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
What do you do with that?
Because I mean, I also I couldfeel very intense sometimes, Um,
and there's different ways.
I think people like emote thator kind of relieve themselves of
that.
What do you?
Is it through your paintingthat you do that?
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Yeah, Through my paintings and well, sometimes,
like in I write, I forget it,it's through my paintings.
Or sometimes, like I takepictures for like Instagram.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Yeah, I'm like oh see , I saw you have a very unique
fashion sense too.
You know you're you're wearingwings sometimes or you know your
your look is very artistic.
Do you have fun with it?
I mean, I'll definitely havefun with it, but what is your
process like?
Getting dressed every day?
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Um well, like I also like with my, with my mood.
You know, like sometimes Idon't know when I'm in an art
exhibition.
I like to like pop out, I liketo like yeah to look very.
How to say like, like, a littlebit, like my paintings have
like glitter or like details.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Yeah, like larger than life, jesse's going to pull
some up here.
Oh yeah, that's like colorful.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
It's like a representation of my painting,
but with my clothes.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Yeah.
And uh where do you get thesethings?
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Oh, like Amazon.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
You got it.
You got them on Amazon Amazon.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Like, like, like.
I don't go to the mall anymore,just like Amazon prime now.
Okay.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
That's really cool.
So you like to make a spectaclewhen, when your gallery
openings happen.
So you've been in the DerekGores Art Gallery around here
and I actually saw your workdown the street.
Um, there's a new spa there,yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
This the sand gallery , but um and also I'm in L
gallery and Strabrich gallery.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Uh-huh.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
So I'm like right now there is not.
Sometimes I'm when Derek Goreshas like open calls for artists,
like I'm in his gallery, butnow I'm like in L gallery in the
same gallery and uh, uh andStrabrich gallery and yeah
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you're like a super go-getter.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
What, what is your?
What are you aiming for next?
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Well, like I'm planning to, to keep one my.
My plan in short term is goingto our basil next year, because
this year we're going to go, butI need to get more prepared.
Okay, I'm having a solo show inL gallery in February, so
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everyone is invited.
Oh great.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
February.
Do you know the exact date?
Um, it's the first Friday ofthe month, first fire.
Okay, first Friday.
Oh, that's a tongue twister.
First Friday in February,you'll have an art gallery at
the L gallery.
Is that what it's?
Speaker 2 (17:37):
called.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
L gallery.
It's like on the other side ofum of Derek Gord gallery of
Derek Gord gallery, right.
Cool, you're going to have asolo show.
That's amazing.
Yeah, I'm having a solo show.
Do you have enough work forthat?
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Yeah, I do.
Yeah, I paint every day.
Like, even though, like, if Igo to the movies, for example,
at 8 to 10 PM, 8 PM to 10 PM, Igo back and paint, like I'm like
are you a night owl?
I'm not night owl, like itdepends, like, I paint every day
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.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Every single day.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
So, like it's like, if I wake up, I, when I wake up,
I paint.
When I clean the house, I say,oh, I have to paint at least
before I get in the house.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Do you have a studio in your house or do you go
somewhere else to paint?
Speaker 2 (18:28):
No, I have a studio in my house, in your house, and
sometimes I go and paint likeoutside.
Sometimes I go to the beach andpaint.
Sometimes I we have a lake inour complex apartment so I go
out and paint and I see the dogsand the turtles on this
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painting.
Paint those.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
So you mentioned your boyfriend.
Do you guys live together?
Yeah, we live together.
Yeah, how long have you beenwith?
Speaker 2 (18:54):
him.
We have been together since2019.
Yeah, oh, wow.
So right before COVID, yeah,right before COVID.
Right before COVID, it was along time ago.
Yeah, I was.
I was 28.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
I was in my 20s.
Yeah, I'm 32 now.
I know we're all aging.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Yeah, and I'm butter now.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
So how's that going?
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Pretty good Like we have been working on.
You know like having arelationship is like working
every day.
You know so like we are peoplethat that we know our mistakes
and we try to like try to fixthem every time.
Yeah, so like we, both of us,try to have like a like a good
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Environment.
Guess, for example, like I havea polar disorder, so in the
beginning I wasn't take how tosay it Medicine yeah, you
weren't taking your medication.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
I have because I'm so .
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Sometimes it was like Like crying too much or like
screaming too much.
Yeah so bipolar disorder.
For some people that doesn'tknow it's like drastically
shades of humor.
You cannot control it becauseSome serotonin and dopamine you
don't have it.
Yeah, it depletes Uh-huh, andit's affects you, or sees what
(20:29):
they say it like well affectsyou and the people around you
and the people around you and so, if you have it, you have to
get like what do you say,subscription?
Speaker 1 (20:39):
A prescription.
Prescription you have to getyeah medication to help you sort
of regulate those imbalances.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Yeah, so.
So like he didn't tell me tohave to take them, I decided to
take them.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
So it was it your first time getting on medication
?
Yes, yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Yeah, it was my first time, so like you guys met you.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
You showed them your true colors and he's like hey,
maybe you should do this no.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
I, I decided, you decided.
He told me no, he thought hewas like a latino thing, is he?
Speaker 1 (21:13):
is he?
Is he a latino as well?
No, he's, uh, he's fromvirginia.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Oh, okay, he likes like I don't know.
He said that he's a country boy.
Okay, country boy.
Yeah, he likes country musicand he's like to say what does
he do for a living?
Uh, he's uh Programmer, buthe's very smart.
He's a genius, a computerprogrammer, yeah, but he's a
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super mega genius because, likeI see him like working with his
Go workers and keeping his thatwork like in three hours and the
other ones take like nine,eight hours, so then he doesn't
know what to do with his timewhen he finished work and then
he just go to the pool andsometimes he has meetings in the
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in the pool with the floater.
Living the life and having ameeting and he's like, oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Is he working for one of these big companies around
here?
No, he works online, online.
Yeah, that's cool.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Yeah, oh, I should have said that he's gonna kill
me.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
That's okay, oh we all do that post covet, right?
We have more liberties with ourtime because we're not showing
up at offices anymore and, youknow, instead of twiddling our
thumbs in front of a computerwhen our work is done, we're
free to go in the pool and takethat meeting.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
I think it's fine.
Yeah, no, he loves to go to thebeach, to the what, to the pool
.
So in one time it's like hewanna text me, but like I prefer
to stay home and paint.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Yeah, are you a homebody?
Speaker 2 (22:55):
No, just when I paint , just when you paint.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
No, I like to be out all the time, but but I can't
because I have to paint.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Yeah, yeah.
Where do you go when you doneed to break out?
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Um, well, uh, I like to go to pineapples.
Yeah, you do.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
But how long have you been in this area again?
Did you say 10 years, or justin the States, about 10 years,
no, in Melbourne.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
I have been like one year and like Three months.
Okay.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Yeah, yeah.
So you've made quite an impactin that last year.
In three months, I mean, yeah,you can't go anywhere without
seeing your artwork up somewhere.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Oh yeah, no, I tried to knock doors.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Yeah, yeah, you do.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Yeah.
So I think that is important.
You know like sometimes peoplejust just like stay like this
and like wait for opportunities.
I'm like no man.
Like I see many artists thatlike they just like Say I want
to be a paper artist, I want tobe outside, and they're waiting
for someone to come magicallyand like expose them in the
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artwork.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Right, like oh, you're the one that we've been
waiting for, but it doesn't workthat way, right?
Speaker 2 (24:07):
No, it doesn't work that way.
It's like you knock a few doorsand then other doors open.
Yeah and then you have to afterall the doors open.
You go forward and then knockanother door and then some other
doors.
So it's like that, knocking by,knocking and knocking, and they
start like opening.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Would you say that's how you got your solo exhibit?
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Um, no, well, it's like in the gallery that we are
um, we all have the chance tohave like a solo show.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Well, a lot of artists don't feel that way.
They feel like maybe they'renot worthy of it, they're not
prepared, like can you share howyou got your own solo exhibit?
Like, how many paintings doesthat require?
And like, how was your firstmeeting with the gallery owner?
Was it intimidating?
Like, how did you do it?
Speaker 2 (24:57):
No, like, I changed my mood, like, and then I'm like
, I'm like if I always feel thatyou don't have to be shy, even
though you are shy, because I'mshy, you know, like, like,
really I'm super shy, but, like,when it's about my career, my,
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my job, like I changed my faceand I have to say, like I'm
gonna go for opportunities anddoesn't matter, and I have to
change my attitudes, like, so,like, when I went to L gallery
at first, um, I text them, andthen, uh, I went to, had a
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meeting with, well, barbaraSmithers I don't know how to
pronounce her name, barbaraBarbara and then she liked my
work.
Then, like, I had like, andthen, like they have a meeting,
the other artist to see if theylike my work.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Oh, okay, so that gallery is run by artists.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Yeah, so we all pay for a space.
Oh, okay, so, so, like I havemy work, like I have like
paintings over there, so in Lgallery you want to Go and see
my art is an L gallery.
Uh, in L gallery.
What's the number of L gallery?
14?
.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
I'm not if they address.
I think everybody knows wherethat is Okay we can pop it on
too.
So that's wonderful.
So you just went in there, youput your your artist mask on and
and you got yourself a wallthere.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Yeah, but they had to do a meeting first in order to
let me in.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Yeah, so they approved you.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Yeah, they approved me, so thank you.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Well, it wouldn't have happened if you wouldn't
knock down that door, right,yeah, and so how did you get
from being approved to having asolo exhibit also?
Speaker 2 (27:01):
like Every artist that is in the gallery, they
have a chance to have a Soloshow.
Okay, so it's part of themembership in the membership um.
But Also I have been in fifthavenue.
I had like a solo show in fifthavenue, yeah, like in In a
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space with a few paintings.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Cool, was that recently?
No, that was last year, lastyear.
So when you first got here,you're like I'm taking over
fifth avenue.
Yeah, no, it's a fifth avenue.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
On an indial anac uh yeah, fifth avenue gallery Is in
El Gali, but it was in it wasin um.
Okay, it was before in indialanac.
Oh, that's why it's stillcalled fifth avenue.
Uh-huh, got it.
One of the.
It's a.
It's a great gallery.
(27:57):
Like they don't accept what any, whatever artist, so I'm like
thank you.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
You got in.
I mean your work is incredible.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
It really is.
I mean Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Yeah, absolutely.
So what um are you gonna?
What are you gonna surprise uswith in the solo?
Are you gonna have new workthere?
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Oh yeah, I'm gonna have new work I'm planning to.
I'm designing some clothes withmy painting.
Really I'm gonna be a fashionshow too.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
That's amazing some hats.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
I gotta paint some hats too and some some like more
dramatic paintings, like Somesome more drama over there.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Can you reveal like a little bit of the themes, is it
?
I mean, um, so you've donechildren, we've seen you do like
animals and we've seen you dolike really strong females.
Yeah, I feel like that's, youknow, like this one, let's party
.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Oh yeah, I like to party.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
What do you do when you party?
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Well.
I like to dance, I like to begathered with all my friends and
I just talk about like it'speriod of things, energy things.
So that's like my mainconversation.
They're talking about spiritualstuff.
Yeah about like energy aurasconnections.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Chakras, astrology, all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Yeah, so like, I like , I like that.
So when I'm with my friends welike get deep in conversations,
so I like that to go out andtalk about and discover.
You know, last time I met amedium and that was like the
most amazing thing that everhappens to me, because you met a
medium here.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Yeah, do you remember her name?
Speaker 2 (29:48):
oh, you told me to don't tell oh, don't tell.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Okay, can you reveal what she said to you though?
Speaker 2 (29:55):
oh, who knows gonna be well.
Um, I connected with my cousinthat he passed away, really, and
he said that it's like myguardian angel he's my his name
is Hydra and I love you so much.
I'm saying in public right nowoh, man, sorry.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
So she was able to connect you with Adrienne, your
cousin.
Yeah that he passed away.
Amazing.
Did he have a message for you?
Speaker 2 (30:22):
yeah, that he told me that.
He said that he's proud of me.
Yeah, and I can, I will go far,yeah.
And also with one, with my bestfriend that she passed away too
.
He connected me with her,jessica, and wow.
(30:43):
So so it was very interesting,you know, like.
And then I was so intrigued.
You know I was asking herquestion.
Hey, you know, yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
I mean amazing when you can sit next to a medium and
you know all your past lovedones are just trying to talk to
you, yeah, so cool and also.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
I met like a charm and girl that like she, like
yours people you have a problem,she put your hand here in town.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Yeah, can you reveal her name or no?
Speaker 2 (31:15):
I don't know she's gonna get mad, but I can't say
her name.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
I mean, yeah, you don't.
I don't usually see shamans inthis town, but I imagine they're
not like dressed like you wouldimagine they just look like
normal people.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Actually she dressed kind of like me okay, I like a
similar style.
Okay, um no, her name is Brianand wow, this is actually.
It's a cool charm, but like,that's like that that type of
people I like to hang out withyeah, where are you finding
these people?
Speaker 1 (31:47):
I?
Speaker 2 (31:47):
I just asked to the universe please give me people
that because to give me thatspirit to all, because that's I
like to talk with, about stufflike that yeah you know,
sometimes I just how do they say?
I just ask to people hey, doyou like spiritual stuff?
Speaker 1 (32:11):
that's your pickup line yeah they don't like it.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
I'm like, okay, we got nothing to talk about here,
moving on yeah, that's funny.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Have you been to Aquarian Dreams?
No, it's on beach side.
Um, they have really coolclasses there with like sound
bowls and, um, the lady theresherry, super cool.
I joined like a a meet-up, andwe met up every every week and
we discussed like a differentthing in spirituality.
(32:41):
I mean they, we had a weekwhere we learned about the auras
and we learned about thechakras and we learned about, um
healings modalities and stuff,so that's right up your alley
you should go check it out canyou write it for me.
Yeah, yeah, I'll give you theinformation after the show but,
yeah, it sounds like um.
(33:01):
Yeah, you would belong theretoo.
Yeah, I would love that so areyou always asking the universe
for for things?
Is that something that youpractice all the time?
Speaker 2 (33:11):
um.
Well, I suggest yeah, are you?
Speaker 1 (33:16):
are you religious too , or or not?
Speaker 2 (33:19):
really no yeah, I believe in God, like my family
is Catholic, but, like I respectall religions, I like I believe
in like every religion havelike one purpose, like like
(33:41):
respect every human being andsometimes I, you know, like I
like to meet people from allreligions.
Actually, one of my bestfriends, she's from Saudi Arabia
, hello, and she's Muslim andshe's amazing and she talks me
(34:03):
about her religion, how it is,um, and she's a great person.
And I have another friend thatshe's from India and she's
talking about like her life andstuff like that.
So like I like to learn and bearound people from all walks of
life, uh huh yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
What do you learn from them?
Speaker 2 (34:24):
like the traditions, the customs are like very
different yeah the behaviors aredifferent.
Actually, like another goodfriend that I have, like she's
from China, she always told meandra, you're so loud because,
like because, when I wasstarting Savannah, the first
(34:48):
people I started to hang outwith, like Asian people, like
Chinese, koreans and a fewJapanese, and and at the
beginning they liked me andwe're like oh, andrea, you're
super funny, blah, blah, blah.
So then, like, I invite them tomy house to have like a
(35:08):
gathering party yeah and uh,they, they told me where is the
food.
And then what do you mean?
Where is the food?
Like there's the drinks.
I'm not catering, I'm justthrowing a party, but they told
me no, but because in theirculture they make food.
Yeah, to in a gathering toinvite people in and have that
(35:31):
food and the drink, yeah, but inlatin america and mexico you
have just a drink and some, somechips yeah yeah and uh, and
then, like the next day, theywere like oh, andrea, you make a
bad party.
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
I'm like what a bad party.
But that's just as rude.
We were drinking and having fun, yeah and, and uh you got
called out like a sim orsomething.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Yeah no, but it's uh.
What was the question?
I forgot it, I don't know, oh,like if you've learned anything
from being around all thesedifferent cultures ah, yes, so
then I learned that like that Ihad to be more like learn a
little bit before of thecultures, before like I make a
(36:22):
move because I can't, you know,like it they can get, people can
get offended yeah, and you'renot unknowingly, you know, doing
something that they see yeahdifferently yeah, also I learned
in the United States thatpeople something is good,
because in latin america, as youknow that we don't say no
(36:45):
exactly, they are not verystraightforward right, right, we
beat around the bush a lot,yeah, and in the united states
more straightforward.
And I learned to be like that,you know, because before people
were telling me like, oh, do youlike that?
I'm like yes, I like it, andyou, my head was like no that's
horrible.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
You found your voice.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
For now it's like people tell me hey, do you like
that?
I'm like, no, I don't.
So I learned to say no, youknow.
So, uh, it's on this head, it'suh, it's a good thing, you know
, because because, like before,I remember that when I, like
(37:30):
when I started, like when I wasin sabanna, I just hang out with
people from, from all othercountries because I was having,
like, english classes yeah so somy, my main friends were like
from foreigners, so that youguys were practicing together.
I see and and, then like Icouldn't like.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
Well, but then when I moved with my boyfriend, did he
bring you here to this area,your boyfriend?
Speaker 2 (37:59):
no to Virginia, oh to Virginia.
Yeah, so I was living with uhhim and uh his mother.
Okay, no with his mother.
No, first with him and thenlike then, then when we have
corona virus, we move with hismom.
Yeah, like we thought that weare gonna die.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
I don't know, yeah, how was that?
Living with a boyfriend's momdid that go well or not.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
No, she's an angel like.
She's like a living angel.
Mary Jane, I love you.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
Shout out to Mary Jane.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
So she made it all, and then my mom too, because my
mom gonna get mad mom Carla.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
Is she still in Honduras?
No, she lives in.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
Mexico.
Oh, really, yeah.
Actually, she's gonna visit methe 26th.
I'm gonna spend Christmas withme and Ben's mom, uh two is
coming and have they met?
Yeah, they met, they met.
It's all good.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
Yeah, no like, and did he put a ring on it?
Ah, yeah, oh, so you're, you'reengaged.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
Yeah, it's supposed to be in this finger, but I have
yeah, Sometimes they do that.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
That's why I don't wear mine.
No, I get stride cuz the soapgets underneath and Ah.
I mean, I think so.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
Well, yeah, I mean as an artist, I just ended up
taking it off.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
What was the point again, oh?
Speaker 1 (39:42):
it's just wondering if they were getting along.
And I noticed you were wearinga diamond ring, and so the next
question is when's the wedding?
Speaker 2 (39:49):
Um, well, we still figuring about it.
Yeah, but when is it I gonnainvite you guys.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
Oh, thank you, Thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
Mix of American.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
Yeah, do you think you'll throw it here?
Yeah with food, don't forgetthe food.
Yeah but no, no plans soon,like not the next year or
anything.
Yeah, maybe next year.
Okay, but you don't have a day,or no?
(40:24):
But, you want to do it in thearea?
Yes, do you have any venues inmind?
Speaker 2 (40:30):
I Don't want to give advertisement.
They have to pay me for that.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
There you go, there you go.
Have you tried on any weddingdresses yet?
Speaker 2 (40:41):
I saw one in Amazon.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
Amazon.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
No, I give it like free, free advertising to Amazon
.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
Yeah, baby, yeah, some a free dress from Amazon
please, I'm also prime.
Well, you will you do like a, atraditional white, or are you
gonna go, andrea, on it and justmake it your own thing?
Speaker 2 (41:05):
So my plan is like kind of like mix, a traditional
white, but no one will choose.
So we are connected with theearth.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
Yes, so that's my barefoot.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
No, like, some, like.
Oh, I would like to bring some.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
Like Caribbean music, you know yeah, yeah, like steel
drums maybe.
Yeah, I can see it now.
Yeah, okay, well, you got, yougot some time to plan that.
What else for the future foryou?
Speaker 2 (41:41):
Well, um, like I would love to put my gallery in
the future.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
You want your own gallery.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
Yeah, I want my own gallery.
Okay, I Want to keep goingputting my work out there in
different galleries, doing greatjob on that With an artist.
We were building this onlinegallery that we support, like on
Durant's artist, so we'rebuilding that.
(42:07):
Like it's going slow, but it'slike, yeah, we're ready, like
build, like the website andeverything.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
Do you want to tell the, the viewers, what the name
of it is, or maybe next?
Speaker 2 (42:20):
time.
Yeah, no, mc gallery.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
MC gallery.
Okay, and that'll supportHonduran artists.
Speaker 2 (42:26):
Yeah, that's a foreign artist, also other
artists from other parts of theworld, but we're gonna start
with on Durant's artists.
Sure, in under us we have theart of fine art.
Is the people supported a lotOkay?
Speaker 1 (42:45):
so there's an art scene over there.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
Yeah, there's like a big art scene over there.
I'm not like big big, but Likethere's a lot of painters over
there.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
Oh my gosh, I would have never known that, yet I'm
your artist, yeah, cool.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
So it's a.
And also, yeah, I want to gosoon.
I want to show more in Hondurastoo.
I'm gonna show more in Europetoo.
Yeah, and go back to New York.
And I've been in Miami too.
Actually, I lived in Miami too,and I've been in some galleries
(43:24):
over there.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
Yeah, you're ready to go back.
Make, make more art, make astatement.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
Yes, yes.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
Do you have any parting advice for your fellow
artists?
To you know, well, go get whatthey want.
Yes, you seem to be pretty goodat that.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
Well, like keep practicing like you know like
life is tough, like we all haveproblems in life and even though
you have problems, keep working.
Keep working in your dreamsbecause it's hard.
And nobody tells that Everybody.
When people want to give anadvice, they just tell keep
(44:02):
working hard, you're gonna makeit.
You have just to fight with andthey don't tell you the hard
part, that people, that lifethat is super hard to To do it.
You know like I have to paint alot, have to work a lot, my
back hurts.
Actually I had to get morestrength.
Speaker 1 (44:24):
And then juggling that with, like, your emotions
and yeah and it's like asacrifice.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
In order to To to go to your dreams, you have to make
a lot of sacrifices.
You know, like I have to paintSometimes I can't go out, you
know, yeah, I have to if I havea Do time to do when I have
commissions, sometimes I don'tpaint what I want.
(44:50):
Yeah, yeah but you know like Ihave to pay the bills, you know
yeah, exactly.
So yeah, so like work hard, likeeven though you don't feel the
mood and you don't feel likeinspired, just going.
You know, like sometimes, likeI don't feel the mood and I'm
crying.
Speaker 1 (45:09):
No, what gives you the strength to sort of, you
know, put on your persona, likeyou were saying, and start
knocking on those gallery doors?
Speaker 2 (45:21):
So it give me the.
That's how do you say the afterwhat happened, the what I ever
the result the result.
Speaker 1 (45:35):
Yeah, what of what you're doing?
It pays off.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
Yeah, that pays off.
It's like, wow, look, when I'min the gallery and I went my
super outfit and it took me solong to make the painting.
I'm like my wings, I'm like man.
Yeah, this work that you did it, yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:55):
So you, you recognize that even though it's
challenging to paint, to get upsome days, to go knock on
people's doors, you've seen yoursuccess and you felt it enough
to be able to just keep.
Keep going.
Yes, well, I commend you.
That's wonderful, and I thinkyou're an inspiration to all
artists everywhere.
Thank you so much for sharingyour story and your thoughts
(46:18):
with us, and come back wheneveryou want to talk about your next
Showing.
I'd love to hear you, and we'dlove to get to know you a little
bit more.
Speaker 2 (46:28):
No, thank you so much for the opportunity.
Thank you guys are amazing,thank you and I Want to say hi
to my family, say a little bithi to my mom's with that.
Speaker 1 (46:41):
My brother so Hello everybody and come see her solo
exhibit in February at theO-Galley gallery and also you
want to follow my, my websiteand my social media.
Speaker 2 (46:58):
I'm like Andrea Castaneda Castro, com and my
Instagram is Andrea Castanedaart.
Speaker 1 (47:08):
Amazing.
Thank you so much.
You're so brave for sharingyour story.
Speaker 2 (47:13):
We'll see you again another time.
Speaker 1 (47:14):
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Hello, I'm here with AndreaCastaneda.
I've seen your artwork allaround town.
You've been in galleries in NewYork City.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Miami.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Washington DC, Italy.
I saw that.
Milan, right, yes.
And what brings you here?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Well, I came here with my boyfriend Ben, and so we
decided to live here becauseit's a nice city.
But bring me in the UnitedStates.
I study in Georgia, savannah.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
University of Savannah College of Art and
Design.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I wanted to go there too.
Wait, let's take it back,though.
You're from Honduras, you wereborn there, yes, and when did
you come to the States?
Speaker 2 (01:04):
So I came to study to the States on 2014.
How old were you?
I was like 24.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Okay, not 22.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
I was a long time ago .
I'm 32 now, okay.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Okay, so you've been here for about 10 years.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
No, like I went back and forward, back and forward.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
From Honduras to the States.
Yeah, back and forward.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Yes, because school was just a little bit expensive.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Okay, so you went back and forth.
What gave you the privilege toactually come to the States?
Because I don't know much aboutHonduras, but because you were
gonna be a guest on the show, Istarted researching.
Tell me about your life there.
Was it hard In Honduras?
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Yeah Well it's like I travel a lot because my mom is
a chemical engineer.
So I live in Honduras for 13years.
Then we went to Mexico, then westudy over there.
So in Honduras, yeah, it'stough because it's beautiful
(02:10):
it's a beautiful country.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
I saw that it was beautiful, but there was a lot
of violent crime and the highestmurders of females yes yes, san
Pedro Sula was one of the onetime.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
It was like the first city that has most crimes and
violence and it was hard becausesometimes, like it's scary to
go out.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Yeah, it said you shouldn't go out at night.
Is that how you felt?
Yeah, you feel like trappedsometimes.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Oh my gosh, yeah, so you cannot walk in the streets.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
So is it like gangs, or is it just like mismanaged to
the core?
Speaker 2 (02:51):
So is there's like gangs, they call it like the
Madas, okay, and they are likethe dangerous ones because in
order to get into the Madas,they have like the top people
tell them oh, you have to dolike something bad to a random
(03:12):
person in order to get in.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
To get initiated into the gang.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Yeah, and what is it based off of?
Is it drugs or just violence?
Like it's like a mix ofeverything.
A mix of everything.
Were you at all like affectedby it personally?
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Well, when I went to Mexico, I got how do you say it?
Like Rob one time.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
You got robbed in Mexico, yeah what?
Speaker 2 (03:38):
part.
The name was Polanco, mexicoCity.
Okay, and like I was walking inthe streets and someone like
point me with something in mybag.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
And then they told me , oh, give me everything you
have.
And then I start crying, no, no, like it's a crazy, super,
super bad, because it was superscary.
And the guy was like give meeverything, give me everything.
And I couldn't stop like crying, crying, uh-huh.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Did you give him everything?
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Like I tried, but then the guy I was taking so
much long yeah, and I had likelike 30 pesos, that's like one
dollar.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
So not much.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Yeah, In that time I was like super, how do you say
it?
Like send, like I didn't like,like very bohemian, I didn't
like to have cell phones.
So he was like give me yourcell phone, I'm like I don't
have one.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
I don't have one, I don't have cell phone.
The wrong person.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
OK, so I did read that you quoted saying that we
will enjoy seeing some of yourbeautiful artwork produced from
the mind of a survivor of ableak land.
Is that what you're talkingabout when you talk about that?
Are you talking about Honduras,or can you talk about any
surviving stories?
(05:02):
Because your artwork to me isvery ethereal, very storybook,
very much from the imagination.
But when I'm reading yourquotes I'm like whoa, she's gone
through some stuff and I knowyou've talked about bullying too
and coming out of that.
Can you share that?
Speaker 2 (05:23):
with us.
Oh yeah, no, no problem,because I think that, like
that's going to help some people.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Like well, like well.
I've been suffering andbullying all my life because I
have, like people are disordered.
What?
Is that Bipolar disorder.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Oh, you're bipolar OK .
Speaker 2 (05:42):
And also I have autism.
Ok, so that's made me be like alittle bit different from
everyone else, sure, and sosince I was little, I was like,
because of the autism, I waslike out, you know, like in the
spectrum.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Yeah, I'm so curious about autism too, because, a
it's not talked about enough, bit's kind of like a new.
Whether it's new, you know tojust hear about it more now
these days, I think people wantto know and recognize it.
So you're saying that when youwere young you would just space
out.
(06:19):
What other symptoms are like?
What do we see?
Speaker 2 (06:25):
You can see like a change of behavior that like you
don't have something, you wantsomething and someone tells you
no, you start like crying like ababy OK, or like you don't
follow something in some rulesbecause like it's a spectrum, so
it's like different fromeveryone else.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Yeah, it's a big spectrum.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
So, like some of them doesn't like music, for example
, like music affects mesometimes because it made me
like, put me like anxious.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
And then, like it made me want to like drink a
beer or something.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Really so.
Does it depend what music Like?
If you're listening to punkrock, you know you get the
anxiety or your heart beatingversus like Bob Marley.
Does it chill you out?
Speaker 2 (07:13):
No, like it depends yeah, it depends on the mood,
but like every song made me likebeat my heart and I don't like
that.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
So it's like different because, like
sometimes I'm like super out,like I can stay like just
thinking in one thing, and whenI'm like I like I'm thinking at
all, I'm just like like spaceout, totally.
Yeah, like this.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Like when someone's talking to you you have trouble
like following along yeahsometimes I have trouble.
You go into your own mind.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Yeah, so if I like, I'm out, you're like, yeah, be
careful.
Like, oh, yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
I feel like I'm back.
So I bet school was hard.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Yeah, I was For those reasons yeah, I was super hard,
like, and yeah, that's why theybullied me, because I was, like
, super different and because ofthe bipolar disorder, I was
like crying all the time, I getangry and getting trouble.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
The time.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
I get exposed who do not like.
I get kicked out on time fromthe school.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
You did, yeah what happened.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
I was.
I was super rebel, I like thedirector of the school because I
was like I would have liketrouble like following the like
the curriculum or the rulesclasses, like I was like if he's
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biology, I was like super slowif math, but like in every class
it's taking me like right somuch it take me like a while to
learn stuff.
And the director told me, oh,you're super, you don't deserve
to be in school.
And then like I just tell hersomething bad because she told
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me that.
Yeah.
And then like she was like, oh,so you won't be in the school
anymore.
And then she just let me dothat, like the tests and some
homework, so I can pass theschool without being there
anymore.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Were you like disruptive, or were you just not
?
I mean, I think some kids don'tbelong in a school setting at
all.
Would you say you are one ofthose kids?
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Um, well, I did have friends, I did was like social
somehow, but I put an attentionto school.
It was super hard.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Yeah, do you think that you found art sort of
relieving?
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Yes, I think that was like relieving, because there's
no rules in art.
Yeah, like I don't know, sinceI was a little kid, like with my
sister and like my dad, likealways, like we painted all the
time.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
So I never stopped it , actually, like I wanted to be
a psychologist and my mom and mydad told me no, andrea, you're
a painter, you're an artist, youshould study.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Yeah, yeah, so you've been painting.
I mean, your work is so great.
Can we, can we take a look atsome of it?
Jesse, my favorite painting ofyours is the chimp with the uh,
the butterflies coming out.
That one, yes.
Can you tell me about this one?
Oh well, that's interesting.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
So when I went to the zoo like four years ago, no,
like three years ago toWashington DC, I saw that in one
part of the suit there was likethe monkey, the chimpanzee, the
gorillas, and then I saw themlike super sad and I was about
to cry because they look likereally, sometimes they look like
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humans, yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
And all the animals like I don't know.
I don't want to talk about Zeus.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
No, but there's plenty to say about Zeus.
Let me, let's be honest.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
And uh, well, the thing is that, like I saw, their
eyes were like crystallized oflike pain and like they and they
, literally they look like theywere like in the floor, like all
dirty and and then I say likeI'm going to represent these
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chimpanzees as as kings, aslight, so so people can see
their eyes and see like the painthey have.
And uh, he did a beautiful jobwith this one and the
butterflies are like freedom andthe crown is like all animals
like deserve to be treated likekings, like queens.
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Yeah, have the freedom.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
I also noticed a lot of your artwork has this very
deep blue in it.
You see it in a bunch of yourpieces.
The Maryland has blue behind itand there's different ways that
you paint.
There's the one with the childsitting on the chair and I mean,
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like all of these have thisblue background sort of behind
them.
Is that?
Is that something that you evenlike realize that you do, that
you do and like realize that youdo, that you use a certain blue
all the time?
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Um, yes, is I like the water, the ocean?
Okay, so it's like arepresentation of of the water
because, like when I grew up inHonduras, like, like the beach
was 15, like 15 minutes away.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Well, that good one was 30 minutes away.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Uh huh.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
So like I grew up like in the water environment,
so that gives you peace yeah,give me peace.
And also like, like when it'sat night, like a little bit of
intensity, because I'm fromLatin America and like we are
like very expressive you know,like very dramatic.
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Yeah, I like to add like somedrama to my artwork.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Yeah, yeah, it is very dramatic, but in a good way
, and some of it's very soft andother things are very like loud
in your face.
There's like a balance to yourpieces.
Do you think some of the morelike when you're, uh, depicting
children or teddy bears was thatin the past.
Now you're doing more of these,like you know, like I saw one
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with glasses like the onesyou're wearing on your head
today.
It's more like pop culture orlike party fun.
Have you gone through phases?
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Oh, yeah, and so so it's like depends on the humor
in the humor.
I feel that sometimes I feellike like in peace, like a like
a child.
Some other times I feel like Iwant to go to party.
Yeah, sometimes I feel like alot of like intensity in my
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heart.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
What do you do with that?
Because I mean, I also I couldfeel very intense sometimes, Um,
and there's different ways.
I think people like emote thator kind of relieve themselves of
that.
What do you?
Is it through your paintingthat you do that?
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Yeah, Through my paintings and well, sometimes,
like in I write, I forget it,it's through my paintings.
Or sometimes, like I takepictures for like Instagram.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Yeah, I'm like oh see , I saw you have a very unique
fashion sense too.
You know you're you're wearingwings sometimes or you know your
your look is very artistic.
Do you have fun with it?
I mean, I'll definitely havefun with it, but what is your
process like?
Getting dressed every day?
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Um well, like I also like with my, with my mood.
You know, like sometimes Idon't know when I'm in an art
exhibition.
I like to like pop out, I liketo like yeah to look very.
How to say like, like, a littlebit, like my paintings have
like glitter or like details.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Yeah, like larger than life, jesse's going to pull
some up here.
Oh yeah, that's like colorful.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
It's like a representation of my painting,
but with my clothes.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Yeah.
And uh where do you get thesethings?
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Oh, like Amazon.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
You got it.
You got them on Amazon Amazon.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Like, like, like.
I don't go to the mall anymore,just like Amazon prime now.
Okay.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
That's really cool.
So you like to make a spectaclewhen, when your gallery
openings happen.
So you've been in the DerekGores Art Gallery around here
and I actually saw your workdown the street.
Um, there's a new spa there,yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
This the sand gallery , but um and also I'm in L
gallery and Strabrich gallery.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Uh-huh.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
So I'm like right now there is not.
Sometimes I'm when Derek Goreshas like open calls for artists,
like I'm in his gallery, butnow I'm like in L gallery in the
same gallery and uh, uh andStrabrich gallery and yeah
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you're like a super go-getter.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
What, what is your?
What are you aiming for next?
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Well, like I'm planning to, to keep one my.
My plan in short term is goingto our basil next year, because
this year we're going to go, butI need to get more prepared.
Okay, I'm having a solo show inL gallery in February, so
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everyone is invited.
Oh great.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
February.
Do you know the exact date?
Um, it's the first Friday ofthe month, first fire.
Okay, first Friday.
Oh, that's a tongue twister.
First Friday in February,you'll have an art gallery at
the L gallery.
Is that what it's?
Speaker 2 (17:37):
called.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
L gallery.
It's like on the other side ofum of Derek Gord gallery of
Derek Gord gallery, right.
Cool, you're going to have asolo show.
That's amazing.
Yeah, I'm having a solo show.
Do you have enough work forthat?
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Yeah, I do.
Yeah, I paint every day.
Like, even though, like, if Igo to the movies, for example,
at 8 to 10 PM, 8 PM to 10 PM, Igo back and paint, like I'm like
are you a night owl?
I'm not night owl, like itdepends, like, I paint every day
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.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Every single day.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
So, like it's like, if I wake up, I, when I wake up,
I paint.
When I clean the house, I say,oh, I have to paint at least
before I get in the house.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Do you have a studio in your house or do you go
somewhere else to paint?
Speaker 2 (18:28):
No, I have a studio in my house, in your house, and
sometimes I go and paint likeoutside.
Sometimes I go to the beach andpaint.
Sometimes I we have a lake inour complex apartment so I go
out and paint and I see the dogsand the turtles on this
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painting.
Paint those.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
So you mentioned your boyfriend.
Do you guys live together?
Yeah, we live together.
Yeah, how long have you beenwith?
Speaker 2 (18:54):
him.
We have been together since2019.
Yeah, oh, wow.
So right before COVID, yeah,right before COVID.
Right before COVID, it was along time ago.
Yeah, I was.
I was 28.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
I was in my 20s.
Yeah, I'm 32 now.
I know we're all aging.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Yeah, and I'm butter now.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
So how's that going?
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Pretty good Like we have been working on.
You know like having arelationship is like working
every day.
You know so like we are peoplethat that we know our mistakes
and we try to like try to fixthem every time.
Yeah, so like we, both of us,try to have like a like a good
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Environment.
Guess, for example, like I havea polar disorder, so in the
beginning I wasn't take how tosay it Medicine yeah, you
weren't taking your medication.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
I have because I'm so .
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Sometimes it was like Like crying too much or like
screaming too much.
Yeah so bipolar disorder.
For some people that doesn'tknow it's like drastically
shades of humor.
You cannot control it becauseSome serotonin and dopamine you
don't have it.
Yeah, it depletes Uh-huh, andit's affects you, or sees what
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they say it like well affectsyou and the people around you
and the people around you and so, if you have it, you have to
get like what do you say,subscription?
Speaker 1 (20:39):
A prescription.
Prescription you have to getyeah medication to help you sort
of regulate those imbalances.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Yeah, so.
So like he didn't tell me tohave to take them, I decided to
take them.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
So it was it your first time getting on medication
?
Yes, yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Yeah, it was my first time, so like you guys met you.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
You showed them your true colors and he's like hey,
maybe you should do this no.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
I, I decided, you decided.
He told me no, he thought hewas like a latino thing, is he?
Speaker 1 (21:13):
is he?
Is he a latino as well?
No, he's, uh, he's fromvirginia.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Oh, okay, he likes like I don't know.
He said that he's a country boy.
Okay, country boy.
Yeah, he likes country musicand he's like to say what does
he do for a living?
Uh, he's uh Programmer, buthe's very smart.
He's a genius, a computerprogrammer, yeah, but he's a
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super mega genius because, likeI see him like working with his
Go workers and keeping his thatwork like in three hours and the
other ones take like nine,eight hours, so then he doesn't
know what to do with his timewhen he finished work and then
he just go to the pool andsometimes he has meetings in the
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in the pool with the floater.
Living the life and having ameeting and he's like, oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Is he working for one of these big companies around
here?
No, he works online, online.
Yeah, that's cool.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Yeah, oh, I should have said that he's gonna kill
me.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
That's okay, oh we all do that post covet, right?
We have more liberties with ourtime because we're not showing
up at offices anymore and, youknow, instead of twiddling our
thumbs in front of a computerwhen our work is done, we're
free to go in the pool and takethat meeting.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
I think it's fine.
Yeah, no, he loves to go to thebeach, to the what, to the pool
.
So in one time it's like hewanna text me, but like I prefer
to stay home and paint.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Yeah, are you a homebody?
Speaker 2 (22:55):
No, just when I paint , just when you paint.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
No, I like to be out all the time, but but I can't
because I have to paint.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Yeah, yeah.
Where do you go when you doneed to break out?
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Um, well, uh, I like to go to pineapples.
Yeah, you do.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
But how long have you been in this area again?
Did you say 10 years, or justin the States, about 10 years,
no, in Melbourne.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
I have been like one year and like Three months.
Okay.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Yeah, yeah.
So you've made quite an impactin that last year.
In three months, I mean, yeah,you can't go anywhere without
seeing your artwork up somewhere.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Oh yeah, no, I tried to knock doors.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Yeah, yeah, you do.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Yeah.
So I think that is important.
You know like sometimes peoplejust just like stay like this
and like wait for opportunities.
I'm like no man.
Like I see many artists thatlike they just like Say I want
to be a paper artist, I want tobe outside, and they're waiting
for someone to come magicallyand like expose them in the
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artwork.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Right, like oh, you're the one that we've been
waiting for, but it doesn't workthat way, right?
Speaker 2 (24:07):
No, it doesn't work that way.
It's like you knock a few doorsand then other doors open.
Yeah and then you have to afterall the doors open.
You go forward and then knockanother door and then some other
doors.
So it's like that, knocking by,knocking and knocking, and they
start like opening.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Would you say that's how you got your solo exhibit?
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Um, no, well, it's like in the gallery that we are
um, we all have the chance tohave like a solo show.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Well, a lot of artists don't feel that way.
They feel like maybe they'renot worthy of it, they're not
prepared, like can you share howyou got your own solo exhibit?
Like, how many paintings doesthat require?
And like, how was your firstmeeting with the gallery owner?
Was it intimidating?
Like, how did you do it?
Speaker 2 (24:57):
No, like, I changed my mood, like, and then I'm like
, I'm like if I always feel thatyou don't have to be shy, even
though you are shy, because I'mshy, you know, like, like,
really I'm super shy, but, like,when it's about my career, my,
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my job, like I changed my faceand I have to say, like I'm
gonna go for opportunities anddoesn't matter, and I have to
change my attitudes, like, so,like, when I went to L gallery
at first, um, I text them, andthen, uh, I went to, had a
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meeting with, well, barbaraSmithers I don't know how to
pronounce her name, barbaraBarbara and then she liked my
work.
Then, like, I had like, andthen, like they have a meeting,
the other artist to see if theylike my work.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Oh, okay, so that gallery is run by artists.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Yeah, so we all pay for a space.
Oh, okay, so, so, like I havemy work, like I have like
paintings over there, so in Lgallery you want to Go and see
my art is an L gallery.
Uh, in L gallery.
What's the number of L gallery?
14?
.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
I'm not if they address.
I think everybody knows wherethat is Okay we can pop it on
too.
So that's wonderful.
So you just went in there, youput your your artist mask on and
and you got yourself a wallthere.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Yeah, but they had to do a meeting first in order to
let me in.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Yeah, so they approved you.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Yeah, they approved me, so thank you.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Well, it wouldn't have happened if you wouldn't
knock down that door, right,yeah, and so how did you get
from being approved to having asolo exhibit also?
Speaker 2 (27:01):
like Every artist that is in the gallery, they
have a chance to have a Soloshow.
Okay, so it's part of themembership in the membership um.
But Also I have been in fifthavenue.
I had like a solo show in fifthavenue, yeah, like in In a
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space with a few paintings.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Cool, was that recently?
No, that was last year, lastyear.
So when you first got here,you're like I'm taking over
fifth avenue.
Yeah, no, it's a fifth avenue.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
On an indial anac uh yeah, fifth avenue gallery Is in
El Gali, but it was in it wasin um.
Okay, it was before in indialanac.
Oh, that's why it's stillcalled fifth avenue.
Uh-huh, got it.
One of the.
It's a.
It's a great gallery.
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Like they don't accept what any, whatever artist, so I'm like
thank you.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
You got in.
I mean your work is incredible.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
It really is.
I mean Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Yeah, absolutely.
So what um are you gonna?
What are you gonna surprise uswith in the solo?
Are you gonna have new workthere?
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Oh yeah, I'm gonna have new work I'm planning to.
I'm designing some clothes withmy painting.
Really I'm gonna be a fashionshow too.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
That's amazing some hats.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
I gotta paint some hats too and some some like more
dramatic paintings, like Somesome more drama over there.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Can you reveal like a little bit of the themes, is it
?
I mean, um, so you've donechildren, we've seen you do like
animals and we've seen you dolike really strong females.
Yeah, I feel like that's, youknow, like this one, let's party
.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Oh yeah, I like to party.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
What do you do when you party?
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Well.
I like to dance, I like to begathered with all my friends and
I just talk about like it'speriod of things, energy things.
So that's like my mainconversation.
They're talking about spiritualstuff.
Yeah about like energy aurasconnections.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Chakras, astrology, all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Yeah, so like, I like , I like that.
So when I'm with my friends welike get deep in conversations,
so I like that to go out andtalk about and discover.
You know, last time I met amedium and that was like the
most amazing thing that everhappens to me, because you met a
medium here.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Yeah, do you remember her name?
Speaker 2 (29:48):
oh, you told me to don't tell oh, don't tell.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Okay, can you reveal what she said to you though?
Speaker 2 (29:55):
oh, who knows gonna be well.
Um, I connected with my cousinthat he passed away, really, and
he said that it's like myguardian angel he's my his name
is Hydra and I love you so much.
I'm saying in public right nowoh, man, sorry.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
So she was able to connect you with Adrienne, your
cousin.
Yeah that he passed away.
Amazing.
Did he have a message for you?
Speaker 2 (30:22):
yeah, that he told me that.
He said that he's proud of me.
Yeah, and I can, I will go far,yeah.
And also with one, with my bestfriend that she passed away too
.
He connected me with her,jessica, and wow.
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So so it was very interesting,you know, like.
And then I was so intrigued.
You know I was asking herquestion.
Hey, you know, yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
I mean amazing when you can sit next to a medium and
you know all your past lovedones are just trying to talk to
you, yeah, so cool and also.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
I met like a charm and girl that like she, like
yours people you have a problem,she put your hand here in town.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Yeah, can you reveal her name or no?
Speaker 2 (31:15):
I don't know she's gonna get mad, but I can't say
her name.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
I mean, yeah, you don't.
I don't usually see shamans inthis town, but I imagine they're
not like dressed like you wouldimagine they just look like
normal people.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Actually she dressed kind of like me okay, I like a
similar style.
Okay, um no, her name is Brianand wow, this is actually.
It's a cool charm, but like,that's like that that type of
people I like to hang out withyeah, where are you finding
these people?
Speaker 1 (31:47):
I?
Speaker 2 (31:47):
I just asked to the universe please give me people
that because to give me thatspirit to all, because that's I
like to talk with, about stufflike that yeah you know,
sometimes I just how do they say?
I just ask to people hey, doyou like spiritual stuff?
Speaker 1 (32:11):
that's your pickup line yeah they don't like it.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
I'm like, okay, we got nothing to talk about here,
moving on yeah, that's funny.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Have you been to Aquarian Dreams?
No, it's on beach side.
Um, they have really coolclasses there with like sound
bowls and, um, the lady theresherry, super cool.
I joined like a a meet-up, andwe met up every every week and
we discussed like a differentthing in spirituality.
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I mean they, we had a weekwhere we learned about the auras
and we learned about thechakras and we learned about, um
healings modalities and stuff,so that's right up your alley
you should go check it out canyou write it for me.
Yeah, yeah, I'll give you theinformation after the show but,
yeah, it sounds like um.
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Yeah, you would belong theretoo.
Yeah, I would love that so areyou always asking the universe
for for things?
Is that something that youpractice all the time?
Speaker 2 (33:11):
um.
Well, I suggest yeah, are you?
Speaker 1 (33:16):
are you religious too , or or not?
Speaker 2 (33:19):
really no yeah, I believe in God, like my family
is Catholic, but, like I respectall religions, I like I believe
in like every religion havelike one purpose, like like
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respect every human being andsometimes I, you know, like I
like to meet people from allreligions.
Actually, one of my bestfriends, she's from Saudi Arabia
, hello, and she's Muslim andshe's amazing and she talks me
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about her religion, how it is,um, and she's a great person.
And I have another friend thatshe's from India and she's
talking about like her life andstuff like that.
So like I like to learn and bearound people from all walks of
life, uh huh yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
What do you learn from them?
Speaker 2 (34:24):
like the traditions, the customs are like very
different yeah the behaviors aredifferent.
Actually, like another goodfriend that I have, like she's
from China, she always told meandra, you're so loud because,
like because, when I wasstarting Savannah, the first
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people I started to hang outwith, like Asian people, like
Chinese, koreans and a fewJapanese, and and at the
beginning they liked me andwe're like oh, andrea, you're
super funny, blah, blah, blah.
So then, like, I invite them tomy house to have like a
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gathering party yeah and uh,they, they told me where is the
food.
And then what do you mean?
Where is the food?
Like there's the drinks.
I'm not catering, I'm justthrowing a party, but they told
me no, but because in theirculture they make food.
Yeah, to in a gathering toinvite people in and have that
(35:31):
food and the drink, yeah, but inlatin america and mexico you
have just a drink and some, somechips yeah yeah and uh, and
then, like the next day, theywere like oh, andrea, you make a
bad party.
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
I'm like what a bad party.
But that's just as rude.
We were drinking and having fun, yeah and, and uh you got
called out like a sim orsomething.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Yeah no, but it's uh.
What was the question?
I forgot it, I don't know, oh,like if you've learned anything
from being around all thesedifferent cultures ah, yes, so
then I learned that like that Ihad to be more like learn a
little bit before of thecultures, before like I make a
(36:22):
move because I can't, you know,like it they can get, people can
get offended yeah, and you'renot unknowingly, you know, doing
something that they see yeahdifferently yeah, also I learned
in the United States thatpeople something is good,
because in latin america, as youknow that we don't say no
(36:45):
exactly, they are not verystraightforward right, right, we
beat around the bush a lot,yeah, and in the united states
more straightforward.
And I learned to be like that,you know, because before people
were telling me like, oh, do youlike that?
I'm like yes, I like it, andyou, my head was like no that's
horrible.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
You found your voice.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
For now it's like people tell me hey, do you like
that?
I'm like, no, I don't.
So I learned to say no, youknow.
So, uh, it's on this head, it'suh, it's a good thing, you know
, because because, like before,I remember that when I, like
(37:30):
when I started, like when I wasin sabanna, I just hang out with
people from, from all othercountries because I was having,
like, english classes yeah so somy, my main friends were like
from foreigners, so that youguys were practicing together.
I see and and, then like Icouldn't like.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
Well, but then when I moved with my boyfriend, did he
bring you here to this area,your boyfriend?
Speaker 2 (37:59):
no to Virginia, oh to Virginia.
Yeah, so I was living with uhhim and uh his mother.
Okay, no with his mother.
No, first with him and thenlike then, then when we have
corona virus, we move with hismom.
Yeah, like we thought that weare gonna die.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
I don't know, yeah, how was that?
Living with a boyfriend's momdid that go well or not.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
No, she's an angel like.
She's like a living angel.
Mary Jane, I love you.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
Shout out to Mary Jane.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
So she made it all, and then my mom too, because my
mom gonna get mad mom Carla.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
Is she still in Honduras?
No, she lives in.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
Mexico.
Oh, really, yeah.
Actually, she's gonna visit methe 26th.
I'm gonna spend Christmas withme and Ben's mom, uh two is
coming and have they met?
Yeah, they met, they met.
It's all good.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
Yeah, no like, and did he put a ring on it?
Ah, yeah, oh, so you're, you'reengaged.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
Yeah, it's supposed to be in this finger, but I have
yeah, Sometimes they do that.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
That's why I don't wear mine.
No, I get stride cuz the soapgets underneath and Ah.
I mean, I think so.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
Well, yeah, I mean as an artist, I just ended up
taking it off.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
What was the point again, oh?
Speaker 1 (39:42):
it's just wondering if they were getting along.
And I noticed you were wearinga diamond ring, and so the next
question is when's the wedding?
Speaker 2 (39:49):
Um, well, we still figuring about it.
Yeah, but when is it I gonnainvite you guys.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
Oh, thank you, Thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
Mix of American.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
Yeah, do you think you'll throw it here?
Yeah with food, don't forgetthe food.
Yeah but no, no plans soon,like not the next year or
anything.
Yeah, maybe next year.
Okay, but you don't have a day,or no?
(40:24):
But, you want to do it in thearea?
Yes, do you have any venues inmind?
Speaker 2 (40:30):
I Don't want to give advertisement.
They have to pay me for that.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
There you go, there you go.
Have you tried on any weddingdresses yet?
Speaker 2 (40:41):
I saw one in Amazon.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
Amazon.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
No, I give it like free, free advertising to Amazon
.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
Yeah, baby, yeah, some a free dress from Amazon
please, I'm also prime.
Well, you will you do like a, atraditional white, or are you
gonna go, andrea, on it and justmake it your own thing?
Speaker 2 (41:05):
So my plan is like kind of like mix, a traditional
white, but no one will choose.
So we are connected with theearth.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
Yes, so that's my barefoot.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
No, like, some, like.
Oh, I would like to bring some.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
Like Caribbean music, you know yeah, yeah, like steel
drums maybe.
Yeah, I can see it now.
Yeah, okay, well, you got, yougot some time to plan that.
What else for the future foryou?
Speaker 2 (41:41):
Well, um, like I would love to put my gallery in
the future.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
You want your own gallery.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
Yeah, I want my own gallery.
Okay, I Want to keep goingputting my work out there in
different galleries, doing greatjob on that With an artist.
We were building this onlinegallery that we support, like on
Durant's artist, so we'rebuilding that.
(42:07):
Like it's going slow, but it'slike, yeah, we're ready, like
build, like the website andeverything.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
Do you want to tell the, the viewers, what the name
of it is, or maybe next?
Speaker 2 (42:20):
time.
Yeah, no, mc gallery.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
MC gallery.
Okay, and that'll supportHonduran artists.
Speaker 2 (42:26):
Yeah, that's a foreign artist, also other
artists from other parts of theworld, but we're gonna start
with on Durant's artists.
Sure, in under us we have theart of fine art.
Is the people supported a lotOkay?
Speaker 1 (42:45):
so there's an art scene over there.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
Yeah, there's like a big art scene over there.
I'm not like big big, but Likethere's a lot of painters over
there.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
Oh my gosh, I would have never known that, yet I'm
your artist, yeah, cool.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
So it's a.
And also, yeah, I want to gosoon.
I want to show more in Hondurastoo.
I'm gonna show more in Europetoo.
Yeah, and go back to New York.
And I've been in Miami too.
Actually, I lived in Miami too,and I've been in some galleries
(43:24):
over there.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
Yeah, you're ready to go back.
Make, make more art, make astatement.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
Yes, yes.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
Do you have any parting advice for your fellow
artists?
To you know, well, go get whatthey want.
Yes, you seem to be pretty goodat that.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
Well, like keep practicing like you know like
life is tough, like we all haveproblems in life and even though
you have problems, keep working.
Keep working in your dreamsbecause it's hard.
And nobody tells that Everybody.
When people want to give anadvice, they just tell keep
(44:02):
working hard, you're gonna makeit.
You have just to fight with andthey don't tell you the hard
part, that people, that lifethat is super hard to To do it.
You know like I have to paint alot, have to work a lot, my
back hurts.
Actually I had to get morestrength.
Speaker 1 (44:24):
And then juggling that with, like, your emotions
and yeah and it's like asacrifice.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
In order to To to go to your dreams, you have to make
a lot of sacrifices.
You know, like I have to paintSometimes I can't go out, you
know, yeah, I have to if I havea Do time to do when I have
commissions, sometimes I don'tpaint what I want.
(44:50):
Yeah, yeah but you know like Ihave to pay the bills, you know
yeah, exactly.
So yeah, so like work hard, likeeven though you don't feel the
mood and you don't feel likeinspired, just going.
You know, like sometimes, likeI don't feel the mood and I'm
crying.
Speaker 1 (45:09):
No, what gives you the strength to sort of, you
know, put on your persona, likeyou were saying, and start
knocking on those gallery doors?
Speaker 2 (45:21):
So it give me the.
That's how do you say the afterwhat happened, the what I ever
the result the result.
Speaker 1 (45:35):
Yeah, what of what you're doing?
It pays off.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
Yeah, that pays off.
It's like, wow, look, when I'min the gallery and I went my
super outfit and it took me solong to make the painting.
I'm like my wings, I'm like man.
Yeah, this work that you did it, yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:55):
So you, you recognize that even though it's
challenging to paint, to get upsome days, to go knock on
people's doors, you've seen yoursuccess and you felt it enough
to be able to just keep.
Keep going.
Yes, well, I commend you.
That's wonderful, and I thinkyou're an inspiration to all
artists everywhere.
Thank you so much for sharingyour story and your thoughts
(46:18):
with us, and come back wheneveryou want to talk about your next
Showing.
I'd love to hear you, and we'dlove to get to know you a little
bit more.
Speaker 2 (46:28):
No, thank you so much for the opportunity.
Thank you guys are amazing,thank you and I Want to say hi
to my family, say a little bithi to my mom's with that.
Speaker 1 (46:41):
My brother so Hello everybody and come see her solo
exhibit in February at theO-Galley gallery and also you
want to follow my, my websiteand my social media.
Speaker 2 (46:58):
I'm like Andrea Castaneda Castro, com and my
Instagram is Andrea Castanedaart.
Speaker 1 (47:08):
Amazing.
Thank you so much.
You're so brave for sharingyour story.
Speaker 2 (47:13):
We'll see you again another time.
Speaker 1 (47:14):
Yeah, thank you.
Bye, guys, to be a sponsor ornominated guest, hit us up on
the socials until next time.
Bye.
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