Local Celebrity Podcast - The Colorful World of Char Good: Fashion, Laughs, and Life Lessons

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Join us for a captivating chat with the ever-stylish Charlotte Goodman aka CharGood, where we journey together through the world of fashion, personal anecdotes, and her love for all things vintage. We promise you, by the end of this episode, you'll walk away with a newfound appreciation for the art of personal style and pick up a few laughs along the way. From private collections to John Lennon frames, Char's wardrobe is more than just clothes - it's a testament to her individuality.

Grab a comfy seat because CharGood's stories are nothing short of entertaining and enlightening. We'll take you through her hilarious attempts at getting drunk for the first time, her personal struggles and perseverance as an entrepreneur, and what's to come for Char's future. We'll also give you a front-row seat to her MTV audition days and her thrilling experiences at Dreamland mini golf, and preforming in Downtown Melbourne, rockstar style!

Our conversation takes an exciting turn, as we enter the world of TikTok, celebrities, and favorite venues. We talk Juliette Lewis & Rusty, as well as Brevard's local celebrities including and Mano at Cuizine Restaurant and Lounge. Char also lets us in on her rituals before taking the stage, her thoughts on someday  having kids, and her unforgettable concert experiences. Our episode rounds off by discussing Charlotte's dating preferences and her straightforward approach to relationships. So, buckle up for an episode that's as unique and colorful as CharGood's Betsy Johnson dress collection.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
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your one stop shop foreverything cool.
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
I can hear myself.
I can hear myself a little bityeah.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
Okay, that's good, you should just start singing.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
I will Ave Maria Very intimate yeah.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
Where's the record button?
Oh, we are recording Today.
We are here with Charlotte.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
No, charlotte, yeah, no government name.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
Oh, we don't need people to know Really.
Oh, one thing I do want to askyou what is your middle name?
Rose, charlotte Rose.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
Okay, this is a horrible start.
Why?

Speaker 1 (00:59):
There's much more to come.
Charlotte, you didn't bringquestions not to ask.
No, she.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
I said nothing's off the table, but then I forgot
that Nothing is off the table,except for You're a beautiful
soul spirit.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
I'm about to.
I'll tell you.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Let's get to the good stuff, Super good Well you just
came back from your hair.
Yes, when do you get your hairdone?
Corny Clougall Lather Salon ohOn Riverside behind Mola.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
Oh, very nice, Always very nice.
I like the layers.
Thanks, I came to you foradvice.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
For a hair salon.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
And I asked for the layers too, because I'm trying
to be like Shug.
It looks really good.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
Thank you.
Color looks great.
Oh, I did that by myself.
Oh yeah, she's an artist, colorartist.
So me and Niko could we couldtalk for hours about literally
everything Hair clothes, men,boys Just start.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
But we have to be a little focused, right, I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
Because I did my homework, otherwise it's going
to be a girl's kiki first.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
Oh no, it's definitely a girl's kiki, and in
fact no reason we want to knowwhere do you shop.
I know I've seen you arounddowntown Melbourne.
You would pick up your BetsyJohnson dresses.
Yeah, Ezra.
Ezra, where else?

Speaker 2 (02:16):
Favorite places to shop.
Right now it's privatecollections.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
Oh From people.
You don't go to stores, nostores, I don't go to stores.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
You don't have good stores.
Yeah, we have hacks on Macy's.
No, thanks.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
No, thank you, I'd rather not.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
Dillard's is okay, sometimes Macy's is bad.
Macy's is really bad, reallybad here, really depressing, and
there are any store that's likehey, we'll give you an extra
20% off of 20% off.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
You're just like why, why?

Speaker 2 (02:44):
are you doing that Because they're so rich?
I don't care.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
Yeah, boo to Macy's.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
See, we can tangent.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
Yeah, well, we recently were talking about like
our relationship with clothing.
There's like an actualrelationship and not a lot of
people have that.
They just put on, packs on andcall it a day.
But I think me and you like wethink about it, we think about
it deeply.
We think about, like what eventwe're going to and how we're

(03:12):
going to look, and you thoughtabout this look today.
Yeah, actually, I got this inthe mail yesterday or the day
before and I didn't open it upuntil, I think, this morning.
I really like it, thank you.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
I like how you thought about the colors.
I thought about the colors,yeah, because the background
colors, oh, I don't know if Ithought that deep.
That's what I was thinking.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
It's a purple kind of day today and these Tamiaki and
me are having a relationship.
I'm just obsessed lately.
Yeah, it works really well.
And I also wore the choker thatI lent you.
Givenchy Givenchy Now, notGivenchy from Macy's, it's like
vintage 1970s Givenchy.
I fell in love and just startedcollecting, collecting,

(03:56):
collecting what do you like tocollect.
You like to collect glasses?

Speaker 2 (04:00):
I did bring my collection.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
Let's take a look, because I never realized that
you do change up your eyewear,but then it's like, of course
you have a collection of eyewear.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
It's something I'm pretty proud of, because if I
started it recently, it allstarted when so 10 years ago I
bought this pair of John Lennonframes.
Oh, yes, and it is John Lennonestate brand.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
Really.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
Mm-hmm.
So I thought that was cool,very cool.
It has his little like littledetails.
You know the sides are engravedand then it has his logo on the
inside and the nose pad has hislogo.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
Can we see them on yeah?

Speaker 2 (04:43):
These are my first pair.
These are like.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
I mean, your eye glasses are like part of the eye
.
My eye glasses are like part ofyour persona.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
And these were my look, for, I mean, these are my
logo.
I've worn these for 10 years,10 years.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
How long have you been wearing glasses?

Speaker 2 (04:57):
Probably.
I mean since probably 15, 20years.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
My eyesight has changed.
I've had like different thingshappen, but we won't get into
that, We'll just talk about thefashion of it all.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
Yeah, fashion glasses .
So these are probably thenewest pair and I like how
they're matching.
These are from.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
Miami.
These are the Godfather MiamiEdition vintage frames.
Let's see which one they areOne of.
They are number 70 of 100limited edition.
Oh, my goodness.
So Corey Shapiro, he startedhis brand vintage frames.
They take, like you know, oldFendi frames and then and he

(05:33):
pops them in Well, like he takesthe mold right.
Oh, he revives old molds andold like.
He goes through boxes and boxesand then makes his own version.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
How do you get vintage Fendi molds?
Because he goes throughwarehouses.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
Yeah, that's a job.
And then when people like, whenopticians go out of business,
they send boxes to auctions andhe'll go and bid on the boxes.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
What?

Speaker 2 (05:59):
a little niche?
Yeah, for sure, and that's beenhis niche, so I thought it was
really cool.
I've been following him since2016.
He does sunglasses for rappers,like that's his big.
Thing that he likes to do, buthe just opened a store in Miami,
in South Beach, and so I boughtthese two Cool.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
For his hands.
When's the last time you wentto Miami?

Speaker 2 (06:21):
Probably last year.
Oh, is it correct?
Wow, so this is prescription.
I go to Optique Unique andJesse said he goes to Optique
Unique too.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
I have to go there too, Carrie.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
Carrie is yes, and you should interview Carrie.
Okay, so she is this proprietorand she's like a wizard.
I mean, she is just so good,she makes all my lenses, so she
did these custom color lenses.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
Oh my gosh, I have a pair of Christian Dior yellow
frames with yellow, but thereare prescriptions, so I'm like I
need to take the prescriptionout.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
But you want to keep the color.
I want to keep the color.
She will do the custom color.
Okay, I'm going.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
Yeah, I'm going.
Yeah, they've just been sittingaround and I'm not giving them
away.
But like I'm also not going totake them to Walmart, it's not
an option.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
No, no, she's the best, the best in the business.
Do we have one more?
I have two more.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
Ooh, let's see.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
Okay, so these, you know, I feel like the penguin
from Surf's Up.
These are my ladies.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
This is my lady Amy.
I'm too old to have seen thatmovie.
What's a good movie.
Okay, I'll watch it.
I'll watch it with the kids.
Yeah, it's a great movie.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
Okay, it's got Kelly Slater in it, it's got Shia
LaBeau.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
Really yeah, oh, all right.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
So this is my man.
Jacques, so you name them.
Oh yeah, these are my men.
This is my man, jacques JacquesMarie-Mage.
Hello, jacques, jacquesMarie-Mage is a brand out of LA.
That is all about the smallbatch where he makes them in
Japan.
But then I went to his store.
Actually, I bought these beforeI went to his store in Venice

(08:02):
Beach.
These are a collaboration withthe celebrity stylist, george
Cortina, so they're the Cortinaframes and they're number 157
out of 161.
I love.
I bought them because there's noway that you can get this style
of frame with nose pads right,oh, so that's why I bought them.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
You know your stuff.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
Wow.
So in custom lenses they'reactually gold mirror transitions
, so they're going to transition, but the reflection is gold.
You can see that.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
Yeah, I see like a little shim shimma.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
So this is my Jacques Marie-Mage.
I love Jacques Marie-Mage.
Very nice, all the celebritiesare wearing them right now.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
Really Like.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
Jacob Elordi, I mean Jeff Goldblum has a like a pair
Collection with them wherethey're like asslips, oh really.
Yeah, yeah.
So I bought those and then Iwent to California and then I
went to his store and then Iwent to another store called Old

(09:06):
Focals.
I don't think we could see them.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
So Old Focals is over here.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
Old.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
Focals is our Hollywood's, hollywood's
optician.
So these are Deadstock, whichNico knows all about, deadstock.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
Deadstock means some.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
Deadstock Vintage never been worn.
Never been sold tags onBronzini is the brand I like
that the shade of the lens.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
It's like a grayish, greenish, bluish.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
So for me they're completely.
I can see out of them butpeople can't see in.
It's like cool, that is custom,that is very celebrity, like
yeah, Very, very nice, cool, butyeah, who are your fashion
idols?
I don't have any idols, but Ihave people that I like Like.

(10:00):
I like how Pharrell dresses.
I've always liked Gwen Stefani,because when I was younger, yeah
punk rock yeah, she wore theshorts in the thigh high socks,
yeah.
And I was like, oh, that was,but that was 2010,.
You know 2011.
So it was like like later.
So then, when I'm older, Istart looking back like, oh, she
was always cool, like she'salways doing something cool.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
She was and doing it herself.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
And I think it's probably like Robert plant.
I always say like Led Zeppelin,you know you have a like a 70s
vibe to you.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
And, by the way, it is your birthday.
It was your birthday and I gotsick.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
I got COVID the night before, but we're still having
the things you've.
So we rescheduled party.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
Come celebrate birthday.
Belated birthday.
How old are you?

Speaker 2 (10:47):
turning 28?
How does that feel?
I want to be 27 still.
Have you turned?
I did turn 28.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
Yeah, Okay, we'll pretend.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
We'll pretend it never happened.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
I don't know, age is weird.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
People don't really change.
This is like something now thatI work playing nursing homes
all the time and I'm friendswith a lot of people of
different ages.
Yeah, we don't really change as, as we get older, a lot of the
time we're always still the sameperson.
We still hold on to the samebeliefs about ourselves and the
same hopes and dreams and who wewant to be.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
Yeah, so I always think of myself as 13 year old
me, like she never grew up orshe's still here.
It's weird.
What about you?
Do you like?
Is there like an age that youkind of?

Speaker 2 (11:37):
I, for me, it's like right now.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
I like that's good.
You should like that, Because Ilove how old I am.
I'm kind of you're matureenough, but you're not like in
the wrinkles.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
Everybody wants to be 27.
Everybody wants to be not 30,but, like old enough.
But anyway, going back to theretirement homes that I play at.
I try not to be condescendingor like presumptuous with people
even though they're old,they're in their 80s, they're
they're still the same people.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
Yeah, I follow this this account called Advanced
Style.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
I love them.
I can't.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
They have a documentary.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I met Deborah Rapaport while Iwas up in New York and I'm just
like, yeah, you know, it doesn'tfeel great to be in your 40s.
But I'm also like, can I justskip over 20 years and be like
60 or 70 so I can just be buckwild with my fashion?
I mean, nothing really stops me, but yeah, it's gonna be real

(12:48):
good to be like you're.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
So good at 40, though , thank you.
You're good at yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
Well, because I feel 13.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
I'm in my teenage dirtbag era.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
Yeah, I'm in my big Lebowski era.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
Love it yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
Yeah, I mean you can carry that on.
You need the balance.
I think the balance Talk to memore about the people that you
go to.
You go to what's it called ordo you go to multiple Multiple?
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (13:22):
A L Fs assisted living facilities Assisted
living.
Some of them are retirement,some of them are memory care,
some of them it's yeah, do theyhave like bits of good life
lessons?

Speaker 1 (13:36):
Do they tell you anything that's like worthwhile
hearing?

Speaker 2 (13:39):
A lot of the residents were engineers for the
space program military program60s heroes.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
Oh my gosh, yeah, Are they spilling any beans?

Speaker 2 (13:50):
It's like you know, they were building the rockets
before.
That was an everyday thing forus.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
Like they were on the forefront of it.
They say that we stopped goingto the moon because they lost
all that technology?

Speaker 2 (14:02):
I don't know anything about that.
I know that you're a conspiracyfan I am too, but I don't know
anything about that.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
Well, let's ask them Like where did the technology go
?

Speaker 2 (14:11):
I know, I feel like we should be doing
interplanetary travel orsomething I mean it's just weird
that we stopped.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
The moon needs to be a resort.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
maybe I would like that.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
Where aren't they selling off little pieces of the
moon at one point, like 10years ago?

Speaker 2 (14:25):
I know they had the Richard Branson trips to space.
That was like, oh, now finallywe're doing space tourism.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
Did they do?

Speaker 2 (14:31):
that yeah, richard Branson took Pineapples dude.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
Oh, that's right.
Yeah, that's very cool.
Yeah, he'd be a great guest.
And did it?
One of the Backstreet Boys gotoo.
Yeah, he did Very interesting.
Very, very nice Philosophies onlife.
I like how you talk aboutsleeping a lot and you didn't
come in at 10 this morning.

(14:55):
Tell me more about that.
Like, what is behind that?
Is it just the 20 lifestyle?
Like forget?

Speaker 2 (15:04):
it.
I'm not getting out of bedbefore noon.
Are you a night owl?
I am a night owl.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
I'm a night owl too.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
Yeah, that's fine.
I wish there was more to do atnight here, but Sometimes Jessie
and I are at some of the latenight spots.
What are the late night spots?
Social distance Is it like 2.30?
Actually, I'm sorry, am Iblasting every spot?

Speaker 1 (15:26):
No, no, Jessie's going 4, 5.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
I think I stayed till 4.30 one time, as late as I
could.
Are they open all night Onweekends?
They do a DJ, so it's likeafter hours.
It's actually it can be prettyfun, like I don't know.
I'm not going to say like it'sthe best time I've ever had in
my life?

Speaker 1 (15:42):
No, definitely not, but it's something that's open.
Otherwise we have Wawa.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
And I see I went to Wawa last night I saw Kevin
Anderson from Ember Note.
Oh really, we're just likehaving a beer in the middle of
Wawa Wow.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
I'm having tea, but yeah, what is your thing?
Like, I saw you up in New York.
Yes, that was so fun.
We had a beer with your dad,but like what is your drug and
alcohol take?
Like you don't, but I do, Idrink, I drink.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
I do some drugs legally.
I have my medical card, nice.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
Nice, yeah, ok, but you're not being like a
20-year-old about it.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
So something that's super interesting that you bring
that up.
Something that I saw the otherday on TikTok is that women
cannot hold alcohol as much asmen.
Like we process it differentlyand obviously a lot of the time
we're smaller and so we can't.
So for women to drink or tryand keep up with men, like
that's not something that weshould do and like Jesse.

(16:42):
Jesse needs to be on screenwith a microphone.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
I know he has all the tea.
You know he was supposed to bemy co-host.
I thought we were going to do aditch to me.
All right, that's fine.
It's just me, this guy's,hilarious.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
I know.
I love him I don't even meanJesse in social distance till 4
AM, Like we got a lot to talkabout.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I'll dolike some beer.
I drank last night mango cartfrom Pineapple.
It was good that's on tap.
It's always like what about?

Speaker 1 (17:12):
heavy liquor.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
The boys were drinking espresso martinis and
I'm like I'm not going to jumpinto liquor?
No, You'd never jump intoliquor.
I do Sometimes like tequila isgood, I hate vodka.
Vodka was my first foray intogetting drunk.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
My friend and I snuck it into.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
This is a great story .
So I think we I don't know howwe got the vodka, but we had
some really warm Coke and it wasin her condo bedroom oh, OK, In
her bedroom and we had neverdrunk alcohol before.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
Where old, are you?

Speaker 2 (17:47):
Teenagers in high school.
What?
Well, listen, I'm a latebloomer right.
I'm 20, and I look like this.
Yes, that's why, because?
You didn't touch it, I didn'tsmoke weed till college like
middle of college.
That's probably best I wasoffered.
I just said no.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
Good girl, anyway.
No, I think it really mattersthat you wait a little bit.
Yeah, oh, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
I could have waited, because then once I anyway, all
right.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
First time again drunk.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
Yeah, first time drinking alcohol.
We have the hot vodka, we havethe hot Coke.
We just keep.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
We literally this was the plan Keep drinking till you
feel something.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
Stupid.
Well, I mean, that's how we alldo it.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
Well, that's what we did, and I was so sick I thought
I was dying.
Oh did you just throw up allday.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
I actually didn't even throw up, I could just felt
like it.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
I felt like horrible and I was like crying and my dad
was like I'm going to die, whatdid your?

Speaker 1 (18:38):
dad do.
He was so pissed, he was likehe could have died of alcohol
poisoning.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
True, my dad is very dramatic.
How much did you guys drink?

Speaker 1 (18:45):
I don't remember Because we didn't measure it up
and this was more than 10 yearsago.
It's crazy.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
So I think life is all about knowing your limits,
knowing your abilities, your disnot.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
But not a lot of teenagers know that or care to
know that, so it's kind of coolthat you waited and now you're
practicing it yeah, good for you.
What about psychedelics?

Speaker 2 (19:12):
So during quarantine, right, I feel like you did Well
.
I tried some mushroom chocolate, oh OK.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
Where do you get mushroom chocolate?
Someone mailed it to me.
So bad, it's cool it kind ofworked.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
Did you trip or did you just?
No, like you just saw a littlelike very light pulsations.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
Yeah, it makes you happy though.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
It was just kind of like strong weed, like I see why
people move from weed topsychedelics, because I'm like,
oh, it's a little bit stronger.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
When, yeah, I remember getting high too early
in life and we all agreed out.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
Yeah, you would see like.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
I would call it the scenes, like the whole room
would just move in sections andI was like what the hell is
happening?
I don't miss that.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
People give me drugs after my shows, like as a tip
and when I played in downtownMelbourne what's the hardest
drug you've gotten out of thetip?

Speaker 1 (20:08):
LSD tabs, ok, yes, yes, and you just stash them
away for another day I've had abig stash.
Oh, oh, my god, so you think?

Speaker 2 (20:18):
Jesse and Nico.
Since I bring them up, let mebring up a positive.
I am playing for Candlelightshopping December 16.
Nice In the gallery alley.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
Very, very nice.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
But when I used to play at Matt's Casbah we were
playing with the rock bands andall the people in downtown like
if they're younger, they're likesuper hippies.
You know, so they're coming upwith like really dirty feet and
they're like you were awesome,you melted our brain.
Here's some drugs Like wow, andthat was how I started my
collection.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
That's like true rock star right there.

Speaker 2 (20:48):
I mean not that we ever thought See the true rock
star lifestyle.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
It's just like I thought it was like.
Lst Like no, you're not.
Oh my god, that's super cool.
What other gifts do you getbesides drugs?

Speaker 2 (21:03):
I've gotten bouquets of flowers.
I've gotten bottles of wine.
I've gotten champagne bottles.
I've gotten a lot of cards.
Oh, that's nice.
That's nice, nice.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
Yeah, Cute.
I saw that you were associatedwith holy name and immaculate
conception.
How you just go.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
I love how we went from LSD to Catholic.
Let's talk about religion nowit's me.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
It's all on the same card religion and philosophy and
I also feel like I should havestudied for this interviewing.
No, it has to just come outExactly.
What do you do with them?

Speaker 2 (21:42):
So I grew up going to immaculate conception in
Melbourne Beach.
One of my favorite musicians,gretchen Lux, was the music
minister and she taught me howto play violin and she was my
voice teacher for a long timeand my musical mentor, and she's
an amazing woman.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
It's amazing how many musicians start at church, At
church yeah.
That's interesting.
What is your faith?

Speaker 2 (22:08):
I'm a practicing Catholic, you are, yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
You believe in God and all that stuff.
That's good.
You go to church every Sunday,yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
What the hell?
I'm an infant of Prague in mypocket.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
Let me see that If you carry this around Sometimes,
I have a prayer card.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
I play Catholic weddings, Catholic funerals.
Will you do Jewish?

Speaker 1 (22:28):
ones too Sure.
You do a botanist ones.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
I'm doing a celebration, I do
non-denominational celebrationsof life.

Speaker 1 (22:34):
Oh, I like that.
Has anybody asked you toofficiate?
I'm not a minister.
Oh, it just takes a minute.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
I wouldn't do that.
I would disrespect my religion,so I wouldn't.
Yeah, yeah but my mom isreligious, my dad is not, and
when I was in high school, Ichose to start going to youth
group and start finding out moreabout it, and have made the
choice for myself throughoutthese different seasons of my
life.
It's always.
The faith journey is like aroller coaster.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
You go up and down, yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
But you're Catholic, right, I was raised.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
Catholic.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
Fapti is confirmed, all of it.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
So you're Catholic for life.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, right.
So it's like also rollercoaster, jesse, too.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
Yes, shutting it down .

Speaker 1 (23:17):
We're all going to heaven here.
This gets me so excited.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
Like I love the Catholic club.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
Because it is kind of a club, like if you're in it,
even if you don't pack it out,you can't get out.

Speaker 1 (23:28):
You know what I love?
I used to go.
There was a church in New Yorkwhere I lived and I would just
go in there to like, smell thecandles and the incense and,
yeah, just the nostalgia of itall, the nostalgia of 2000 years
.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
Do you confess?
I'd love confession.
Yeah, I actually have to go tochurch this week, you do it
regularly.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
Yeah, I was always so freaked out about it, not
because I was, just I didn'tknow that there's things you say
and I never memorized it.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
What's good is?
They have apps now so you cando it all in like a Catholic app
I've been talking about in the90s and the 80s.
They have a little printout,though, like a little sheet of
paper.
They didn't have that back then.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
See.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
I think things have gotten much better with the
youth and the outreach and likewe've practiced the same thing
for thousands of years Now.
Let's just make sure people areon the same page.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
Yeah, can't memorize everything.
Make it easy for us.
Yeah, one time I went in thereand I didn't know I didn't have
anything to confess, so I lied,why did you go?
I don't just because, like Idon't know if I was like made to
go.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
How old were you?
What did you say?
What was your lie?

Speaker 1 (24:41):
Maybe that I was like lying, I don't know, I don't
really remember, but I rememberthat happening and I remember
being so freaked out about goingin the box.
I've had freaked out times.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
I have.
You know, I've had times I'mcrying.
I'm like, yeah, no, but thatwas when I was little.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
Now it's like yeah, I was little, but like I think I
had double digits, so it's notlike I was that little, no same,
I've always been a crybaby, metoo.
Yes, speaking of, I saw arecent post where you're like
you felt like you did bad on theshow and you got depressed.

(25:14):
Does that happened a lot?
Do you?
What do you do?

Speaker 2 (25:21):
What do I do?

Speaker 1 (25:22):
Well, because like, ok, someone like you, or even
like my friends, like it lookslike you're thriving online and
I'm like, ok, I'm not.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
So let's talk about like the first time you ever saw
me play Dreamland mini golf,dreamland mini golf.
Yeah, I was like wow OK no, Iwas so nervous, I felt like so
awkward.
I got my footing and theconfidence later in the set but
to start out the set I was likeliterally shaking.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
You were sitting there and I was like I have to
impress this lady.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
She's so cool.
Did you already know who I was?
You got me the jumpsuit.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
Oh, yeah, yeah so she dressed me.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
But then I was like just meeting you and I was like
she's super cool.
I don't want to be like amateur, no.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
I don't want to look like an amateur.
No, even when it's not perfect,like your persona is perfect.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
OK.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
I don't know if that's worth anything to you.
But like, how badly do you beatyourself up?
Pretty bad, pretty bad.
I'm sorry to hear that.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
No, it's because I always know there'll be another
opportunity.
I'm always going to get achance to do it again, but do
you like take?

Speaker 1 (26:30):
a day off and just mope in bed.
What do you do?

Speaker 2 (26:33):
What does that look like for you?
Yeah, I'm trying to think.
Mostly looks like complain.
Oh, yeah, you just vent wholistens?

Speaker 1 (26:44):
Your dad or your friends?

Speaker 2 (26:47):
Whoever I'm talking to, I try not to because, again,
like I don't want, like yousaid, people think you're
thriving.
I don't want to put thatnegative.
That was a lot for me to post.
That post I posted.
I mean, I hear you.
It was a lot for me to bevulnerable in the way that I
show something negative about mylife, because my brand is all
positive all the time and notpositive.
But life is good, and not justfor me.

(27:09):
It can be great for you too.
Life and the party yeah, all ofyour parts are very
inspirational.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
But I mean I get it Like I don't like to post, like
oh, I'm sick, feel bad for me.
But you know people that dothat all the time.
It's like or likeself-deprecating.
But I must say that it's reallycool to once in a while stumble
across something like that andbe like, oh, she's real and I
can relate to her and we're allgoing through it.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
These headphones are like woo, woo.
I also feel like I'm yelling,because I'm like hello, I'm not
yelling am I?

Speaker 1 (27:48):
No, it sounds very clear.
So, yeah, I really doappreciate that post.
I think people just need to seethat someone like you has
feelings, and it's not always upbecause everybody is having a
shit year.
From what I'm hearing, offline.

(28:09):
I mean, doesn't it feel like aI don't know like a really bad
year, even compared to 2020?

Speaker 2 (28:16):
I think life just keeps happening and like life is
good and bad.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
You got to take the good with that.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
Stuff's got to change .
Yeah, exactly what would youchange?
Just so, basically, so I don'thave a job where I have a boss,
like I am my own boss.
So the problem is that, as theboss and the employee, I'm
saying I don't want to worktoday, I want to go do whatever
I want.
And it always happens, guys,there's nobody there to say no

(28:47):
stuff, but everything alwaysgets done.
The good thing is I've been inrehearsals.
I call the rehearsals with theband.
I'm like everybody get together, we practice.
I practice every day because Ihave shows every weekend.
I have a big one this weekend.
I'm doing a celebration of lifefor a woman who used to come to

(29:08):
my shows.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
She got cancer and died.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
So really sad, but the positive is OK, I can really
work hard to put together agood performance for her friends
and family and for her.
Yeah, you knew her.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
Yeah, yeah yeah, so I'm always working on the show.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
I'm always working on the songs.
I do all the marketing and theaccounting and the styling and
the branding and the PR and thescheduling for my business which
is an LLC.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
You're doing it well and even though you have a
degree in business.
I read that, which is such agood for you, Because when
you're a creative a lot of times.
That's what you're lacking is abusiness sense and how to do
that.
So I wish I would have donethat.
I just went to art school.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
What did you get your degree in?

Speaker 1 (30:03):
Art, just flat out art.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
But you are a full-time editor for big brands,
big companies.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
That was kind of a fluke.
Yeah, that's so cool.
I do, I love it, and the wholeindustry is really slow these
days.
So I'm getting to do stuff likethis in the meantime and I mean
, yeah, it's going to beinteresting once I get another
gig and I'm now having to juggle15 things.
Oh sure, like another corporategig.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
Yeah, I think Teen Mom is coming back to some
degree.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
Did I tell you about my MTV audition days?
Tell me.
When they fill me out 2016, Ithink.
So I was bleach, blonde, yeah,and this girl that I was friends
with, I guess, sent in anaudition tape or application and
she put me as like a reference,but it was by the time she got

(31:03):
approved we were not friendsanymore.
So they were like, ok, let'sbring her on a date.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
Yes, that's how we do it at MTV.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
So they wanted to.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
yeah, yeah a little drama.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
Oh, I wish it had worked out, but I was way too.
I wasn't even 21.
I think I was 20 or something.
And so they wanted somebody tobe able to drink and get kind of
messy with it.
I want to do it now, but I alsodon't want to do it now because
it's like, like you said, theindustry is kind of in a slump.

Speaker 1 (31:30):
Everything's on.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
TikTok.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
Everybody's doing their own yeah everybody's, even
like Juliette Lewis, like allthese big names are just making
their own content.
It's so wild.
Who's Juliette Lewis?
Uh-oh.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
I know the name.
I only know one name.

Speaker 1 (31:47):
She was a natural born killers.
And um Lampoon's ChristmasVacation.
Yeah, she was the daughter inLampoon's Christmas Vacation,
the first one You're like.
What is that?

Speaker 2 (32:01):
Just like a likewise I know Vegas Vacation.

Speaker 1 (32:04):
Yeah, that's not her, though.
Yeah, no.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
Christmas Vacation or European Vacation?
That's not her either.
No.

Speaker 1 (32:11):
They changed that role so many times.
There's a lot of balladries.
That's so weird.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
Yeah, that's so weird and we're all just like that's
fine Change your mom, as long asit's the main guy.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
Rusty Rusty Performing Favorite venues.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
Favorite venues Cuisine number one yeah, I'm
there every Friday in a ballgown.
Oh my gosh.
So the owner, the two owners,are brothers.
The owner, mano.
He stands at the front.
He's the host.
Ok, and if there's somebodythat I'm like, I know they're
stalking me.
He's turned people away before.
Do you have stalkers?

Speaker 1 (32:48):
How many Like?
Probably five or six, it's allgood.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
It's like I got a handle on it.
It's all good.
So I like cuisine because Ifeel safe there and then, I
really like them, like they'recool people.
They work really hard yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
Yeah, and really Candy bacon.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
Really good food they're artists Every single
dish they make, right, it's likeevery single song I play Like
I'm going to serve the song.
I'm going to service the song,they're going to service the
dish, they're not going to justgoing to slap it together
because it's Wednesday night.

Speaker 1 (33:22):
No, you could tell there's like some character
there, so you're there everyFriday, every Friday.
I got to go there on Fridays.
I always forget the martinisare amazing.
Oh my god, two martinis and I'mdone there.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
So I start at seven, I play seven to 10.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
OK, got to get that babysitter.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
You can bring your daughter.
I mean, I have I know.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
We've done it, but it's better.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
Oh yeah, Of course.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
We need some date nights, yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
How's Josh?
He's good, such a cool guy.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
I know.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
I know he's been so cool.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
But you're so cool, I don't know how I got lucky,
though.
I used to date scumbags, oneafter the other, and then fine,
but he fell in love with you.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
Josh fell in love with you.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
I don't know.
I think it was the other wayaround.
I think it was both.
I fell in love with him, andthen we met as adults.
Yeah, so I'm saying and thenwhen it?
Happened, it happened, and thenhe clung on and I was like, oh
my god, is this happening?

Speaker 2 (34:20):
And then he lived in San Diego and I lived in New
York, so it was weird, it's justso cool to have that partner,
that you guys have bothdedicated your lives to living
together, raising kids, butstill you're not giving up your

(34:40):
cool factor.
You know what I mean and that'simportant to me.
People, I think, sweep thatunder the rug way too much and
they're just like give up onlife, give up on being artistic,
give up on being creative andcool and funky and fresh.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
Yeah, I don't know, I don't think I could do that
Like I don't know.
I think that's what maybe keepsus sane, because there are
people that will get married andthen their kids will just take
over their life.
And you're like who?

Speaker 2 (35:02):
are you?
And also because I don't wantto vilify kids, Are you wanting?
That I do want kids I want alot of kids, a lot of them.
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
They are a lot of work.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
No, I know, I know I'm a little nervous.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
I think you might think twice after the first one
what's the best party you'veever played at?
Best party I've ever played at,I saw you, like it was like
wintery.
I don't know if you were downin Miami or something, but that
looked like you were having funthere.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
That was a wedding at the Boca Beach Resort.
I've also played Clevensparties Dr Ross Clevens.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
Oh, really so.

Speaker 2 (35:37):
Tara Clevens.
His wife is a really good partyplanner and so I've played her
New Year's Eve parties.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
You should have heard the guest I'd like to you know,
clevens popped in my head.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
I don't know why, it was just his name's everywhere,
so I'm like local celebrity he'son school.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
I don't know how to pin him down.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
What about Larry Larry?
Relentless Larry Johnson?

Speaker 1 (35:56):
Yeah, his name was tossed around a bit I was just
so.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
I was just at Pineapples with Larry Jeanette
and Mayor Paul Alfrey, oh yeah,and they didn't know I was.
I went out after cuisine andthey were all having a drink, so
joined them for a drink.
That turned into us going toSalty Fox.
Larry and Paul betting $100 onthe fool table.
Jesse was there.

Speaker 1 (36:20):
Oh my gosh, of course , fun.
I know it's weird that I'venever like you've never partied
with Jesse.
No, not yet.
Anyway, he goes to party withus.
I basically just met him.
Oh yeah, take me out.
He just met this guy.
I just met him.
He gave me the keys to thestudio and the rest is history.

(36:40):
But it's one of those thingspeople just magnetize, right, if
you're on the same wave, waveyou're gonna meet them, you know
.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
It's gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
Do you have any like before stage rituals like what
do you do to get pumped?

Speaker 2 (36:59):
That's a good question.
What do I do, do you so?
I pack my bags, you pack yourbags.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
Yeah, bag lady.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
I make sure I have one of everything yeah.
You know whether it's likeflossers, hairspray, makeup,
change of clothes, change ofshoes, change of jewelry,
different cables.
Okay, so it's like theequipment stuff and then also
like the personal, like.
This is part of the show.

(37:31):
Oh my god, it's yeah, so thenI'll have an outfit for like
after An outfit for loading inchange into my performing outfit
.
Change.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
Because you're doing all the physical work.
You don't have like roadiesthat do it for you.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
Good for you.
Sometimes I'll hire a roadie.

Speaker 1 (37:46):
I have friends, yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
Like little 21 year olds that can lift the speakers.
How much you pay them an hour.
I do usually 10% of whatever Imake, oh really, yeah.
So, or like for my friend, Imet him at the Kava Bar, sweet
guy, and I just like slipped him100.
Nice.
You know, yeah, let me justmake his day.

(38:07):
That's cool.
Year, it's a year.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
I can afford it.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
So yeah, you have to treat him well, I've been
tipping a lot recently becausemy tips have been really good.
You tip with drugs, those arefor me, yeah, oh my god Cut.

Speaker 1 (38:28):
I know who the freak is.
Jack Star, the heavy metal.
What is happening?

Speaker 2 (38:36):
there, jack Star is like one of the first people I
met in the music scene here.
He's another person who liveshere, but he's like larger than
life personality and also he hasa really cool story, like he's
been making music since he was.

Speaker 1 (38:52):
Heavy metal 80s yeah.
And making it in a band yeah,like pushing his image, pushing
his name, pushing it.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
And he can play guitar like my mother.
So yeah, he met me when I wasgigging at Harley Davidson in
Pompeii.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
But he had messaged you before that, never having
met you.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
Never having met me, he said if nobody Sorry, if you
didn't exist, somebody wouldhave to make you up, because
you're the most interestingperson I love that, what a
compliment.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
Yeah, what did it feel?

Speaker 2 (39:23):
It felt like, okay, this, this makes sense because
I've been working on my image,not working on my brands, for a
couple years before I startedplaying here.
So I came, so I graduated highschool satellite high school and
I remember this very clear,this is like crystal clear to me
Graduated high school, going toEastern Florida State College,

(39:43):
not really knowing the scenearound here, knowing anybody not
doing anything with music,right, like I wasn't playing,
like I was, and driving pastwhen Derek Gores had his gallery
on the main O'Galley Street,okay, where it was like now it's
Funky Dog, right, okay, andthere's like a big pop up and I

(40:04):
pass it and I'm like going toOrlando to hang out with people
and, like, do stuff.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
I didn't know like there was a scene.
I didn't know there was a scenehere.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
Yeah, so I would go to Orlando.
I lived in Orlando for a coupleyears in my friend's photo
studio and you lived in thephoto studio.
He had like a pool house and Ilived in the pool.
We spoke a lot of we.
That was just like what thewhole thing revolved around and
like all the guys were likewanted to be rappers, you know,

(40:35):
and I was classically trainedmusician for 15 years so I was
like cool, whatever, you guyswant to be musicians.
Like I didn't think of myselfas a musician.
You didn't know, I was just.
I was just there for the party,okay.
So I would throw parties out inOrlando and just kind of like
socialize.
You know what I mean.
I was very in high school likevolunteer you know straight lace

(40:59):
?
Yeah, for sure, but like I was,it was all business for me,
like business all the time.
Did you actually bring photo?

Speaker 1 (41:03):
I asked you to bring photos, yeah, I don't know for
all the way back for whateverreason.
I'm like we have to see, but Ihad a, I can't even imagine what
you would look like withoutyour current look, and it's
surprising to hear that itdidn't happen until after high
school, yeah, way up, and then.

Speaker 2 (41:23):
So when I went to Eastern Florida, I met somebody
in the library named AJ whoplayed in vintage the rock band
and hot pink.
And he goes oh, you play violin, you should sit in with us.
So I sat in with them for fouryears.
My first gig was at Pinto'slounge in Titusville.

Speaker 1 (41:44):
Like a.
Was that a Mexican joint?

Speaker 2 (41:47):
No, it's like a biker bar.
Oh okay, and I had this violin.
Somebody had given me a violinin Orlando like a fender,
electric Stuff just happens tome.

Speaker 1 (41:56):
Yeah, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (41:57):
Just the natural progression of what's meant to
happen.
It's happened, so anyway,somebody gave me an electric
violin and I couldn't tune it.
So I asked this, like biker, totune your violin, first gig
playing.
You know songs, I don't knowTom Petty.
You know Rolling Stones like I.
The only thing I'd ever playedbesides classical in the

(42:18):
orchestra was at the HennigarCenter playing sheet music in
the pit orchestra.
Wow.

Speaker 1 (42:23):
You know.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
So I never played rock and roll.
I never played.
I don't know why I neverthought to play like pop covers
or well, there's not a lot of.

Speaker 1 (42:29):
The only one I know is Mary Ben Ari.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
Yes, I love her, she's amazing.

Speaker 1 (42:34):
She was a coach on this show that I worked on for
MTV was called made Okay.
So they would hook up like ahigh school student that wanted
to like reinvent themselves andthey would hook them up with
like a coach.
And she was one of them and Iwas like Holy shit, I've always
loved the violin myself.
I picked it up in Indiana aswell.

Speaker 2 (42:53):
It was a perfect picture in high school and I
used to dress super like 1950slike I was growing out my pixie
cut so soft.
Freshman sophomore year of highschool.
I had long brown hair I cutinto a pixie.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
Here we go.
Yeah, that is so, not youanymore.

Speaker 2 (43:14):
No no.
Oh, you're a good little girl.
Coconut head, coconut head,haircut no, it was cute.
It was cute, so here you go.
That's like a better is prebraces.
So I also paid for my ownbraces a couple years ago.
Oh yeah, that's so cute, shoutout Russo orthodontics oh yeah,

(43:38):
the best.

Speaker 1 (43:39):
Why did you pay for it?

Speaker 2 (43:40):
yourself.
Why did I pay for it myself?
Yeah, I'm ballin' like that.

Speaker 1 (43:44):
Yeah, I heard, they look good right.

Speaker 2 (43:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (43:47):
No, yeah, they look amazing.
He's an artist Again the onething about like your smile is
part of the look to like.
It's there.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
Somebody wrote a poem about my smile.

Speaker 1 (43:58):
Really.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
You got it.

Speaker 1 (44:00):
Yep, got it on cue.

Speaker 2 (44:02):
Looks like an angel, sounds like an angel must be
char good.
Ever seen a lightning bolt andthe rainbow at the same time?
That's one of her smiles.

Speaker 1 (44:11):
Oh my gosh, your fans are the best Like.

Speaker 2 (44:14):
They capture you and they write about you, so I'll
tell you a fan story when I wasplaying in Matt's Casbug and
love that place because that wasmy my start.
Yeah we're outside and you knowhow people are walking by on
the sidewalk.
Yeah, I'm like playing, I'mlike looking around.
I thought I see my friend and Ithought it was him.
So I go, hey, like give him abig old smile.

(44:37):
Random guy ends up like one ofmy biggest fans.
Oh, my gosh Following me Becauseyou smile that time Because I
was like yeah you should do thatmore often, but then you'll get
like.
I have to bring it, I have toreel it in sometimes, but it is,
it is.
Yeah, it is a lot of fun.
He's some good fans to havesupported people.

Speaker 1 (44:56):
You told me you went to some concerts recently.
Yes, tell me, wow, you went tothe One Direction guy.
I'm such a nerd about it.
This is the best story ever.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
Okay, this is the best story ever.
So in June and July I took myfirst business vacation, meaning
I took time off from mybusiness and paid for it with my
business.

Speaker 1 (45:18):
Nice Right, I was like feels so good yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
So I went to Washington DC for the first time
and I went to Boston,massachusetts, for the first
time, and so when I was inBoston, it was one of my last
days and I think it was theweekend, and so the whole
weekend I was in Boston.
Boston is smaller than Ithought.
I'm seeing the same groups ofpeople wearing black and red and
they're all girls, like youngergirls, teenagers like okay,

(45:43):
they must be doing something,like a concert or like I don't
know what it is.
Yeah, like why are they wearingblack and red?
I thought it was Taylor Swiftright, because I have redressed
up for that.
So I'm on one of my last daysI'm walking around Fenway, and
so Fenway is like a like ahorseshoe kind of bobby pin

(46:03):
shape, right, because you comearound the corner and then up in
the corner is MGM Musical.
Okay, didn't know that.
Yeah, right, but I'm just likewhatever living life, like walk
in, see a group of girls infront of me wearing black and
red.
I go hey, what are you girlsdressed up for?
They go oh, we're here for theLouis Tomlinson concert.
We have two extra tickets.
Do you want to go?

(46:24):
What, literally Crazy.
And and what was even crazier,was that morning like I packed
when I travel.
I was like pack a couple piecesand mix and match.

Speaker 1 (46:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
So I wasn't sure what I was gonna wear.
I thought I was gonna wear adress and a jacket, but that
morning specifically, I was like, let me wear something
different, make something up.
Black tank top, black miniskirt I actually got from you is
like the one of the firstthings I bought from you is the
it's the Versace mini skirt.
That's like kind of sparklyblack, sparkly red.
Adidas jacket, pink bucket hat.

Speaker 1 (46:58):
So you were already in the.

Speaker 2 (46:59):
I was in black and red crazy crazy, so we're
staying on the corner is supernice group of girls.
We're like yeah, come to theconcert, Send me the two tickets
.
They follow Louis Tomlinsonaround and help him sell out.
Oh really they were not evenfrom Boston, they were like from
who knows like hardcore fans.

(47:20):
Yeah, and that's kind of whathis crowd was like, like
hardcore fans.

Speaker 1 (47:23):
Cool.

Speaker 2 (47:23):
I'm staying in the back.
I feel like 60 years old, like,I feel like they were like
early 20s I mean, but they weresome younger people there and it
was all like screaming girlsand yeah, it was just.
It was just awesome though,because it was like a free
concert MGM music hall.

Speaker 1 (47:44):
Yeah, amazing.
Well, like you, just like foundyour way.

Speaker 2 (47:47):
Yeah, and that's how it happened and the fact that
that group was the one that Iasked.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, like nice, you could haveasked anybody.
That's how life happens, thoughI think yeah, you just keep
walking it was definitely like agift from God.

Speaker 1 (48:01):
He was like here you go.

Speaker 2 (48:02):
They go that way, ask them.
So that was awesome.
And then I feel like thatstarted my going to concerts bug
, like I got bit.

Speaker 1 (48:13):
When was that Not this July?
Yeah, I remember when you wentright, you told me you were
going but, I, never.
Yeah, yeah, followed up withyou.

Speaker 2 (48:21):
So my Philosophy before was like oh, I have to be
prepared to go to a concert, Ihave to really know the artist.
You know, but now memorize allthe songs.
Yeah, I was like it's such abig deal.
Yeah, no, now I'm like I don'tcare.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
so then, because you were in a one-direction fan.
You just stumbled it, I had.

Speaker 2 (48:38):
Louie Tomlinson.
Like he, I didn't know one songby him.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
Did you?

Speaker 2 (48:43):
enjoy it.
I Enjoyed it as a musician, asa performer, as, like somebody
who does this who could be up onstage.
I was like I could be up thereright now playing, like that's
not even me bragging, that'sjust like me being realistic
with my abilities and myexperience.
Because his band was super good, they were carrying it.
He disappointed me because hecame out in Black tank top,

(49:05):
grace whoop hands, looked likehis pajamas.
That's okay, I get it, you wantto be sexy.
But like he was not.
He was almost nervous.
Like he was not like connectingwith the audience.
They didn't care, yeah they'rejust like like he's there, he's
there.
Yeah, exactly, they're feral.
Yeah they're feral for him, butit was like he was flat too,
like he was not that on pitchsinging.

(49:26):
Yeah and that's also somethingI can look over, because we're
not perfect, like I know.
I'm not gonna be, you know,hitting every note every time,
but like when you have that muchmoney and that much like
Ability was like dude, likeservice the show a little bit.

Speaker 1 (49:42):
Yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (49:43):
Yeah, I had the best light show.
He had the best band.
His songs were pretty good likewhoever wrote them, they did a
good job, ever wrote them.
Yeah, he did the one directionsong night changes.
That's like their one famoussong, okay they're one and only
their one direction besides whatmakes you beautiful.

(50:04):
He won't do that one, obviously, but it's.
It's interesting to see wherethe boys went with their music
careers respectively.
So, a Couple weeks ago I went toOrlando to see the psychedelic
porn crumpets Australian band.
I've never heard of them but Inever heard of them either just
this Friend was like come what?

(50:26):
Yeah, did you like it?
I loved it.

Speaker 1 (50:29):
Awesome.

Speaker 2 (50:30):
I didn't like the crowd.
The crowd Orlando, it makessense.
They're like college kids.
They're like a little bit nerdy.
They're standing there likewatching the show oh they're
nerdy.
I thought they were gonna belike too rough.
Nobody was dancing, I was toorough and I'm like a hundred
seven pound girl.
I was like yeah, me and myfriend were like yeah, and they

(50:52):
were just like Every concertsgot like something different,
different vibes.
So then you've also been agutter mouth, and then gutter
mouth was the next one.
Okay, at iron oak post Were youthere, jesse.
You did miss it because thatwas.
Can I curse?
Yeah, that was fucking amazing.
The lead singer.
Yeah he's like I don't know howold he is, like he's like 50s.

(51:14):
Yeah right, dude, dude.
He was like putting on themoves, yeah, and, and I didn't
know any of their songs, okay.
But then I was like this is mynew favorite song.
She's got the look.
That's my new favorite song.

Speaker 1 (51:30):
Are you gonna do it on the violin?
Yeah, do it up.

Speaker 2 (51:33):
And then you went to Interrupters so then, this past
weekend I I Was playing a gig inOrlando, played the big private
party, and Then I had someafter-gig drinks with the
clients really nice, really nice.
And Again, the friend who Put meon to the psychedelic porn

(51:56):
crumpets was going.
I knew who's gonna go see theInterrupters so the show had
started already.
I couldn't get tickets onTicketmaster.
I called the box office and Igot tickets, you did.
I was like I feel like it's so90s, I know right, like buying
tickets showed already started.
They had like five openers, oneof the openers for the

(52:17):
Interrupters.
Do you guys know that band?
I didn't.
Again, don't know any of theirsongs.
Female frontage you can reallysing.

Speaker 1 (52:23):
Yeah, I looked it up before you got here.

Speaker 2 (52:25):
Uh-huh like 90s, right yeah 2000s.

Speaker 1 (52:28):
Yeah, I mean, they're like on their re, they're
coming back.

Speaker 2 (52:32):
Yeah, they're Reunion whatever there.
I mean there, those people atthat concert house of blues
Orlando were bringing their 10year old kids.
Oh gosh, so it was like olderMillennials.

Speaker 1 (52:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:43):
I again didn't know any of the songs, but I found
one of my favorite songs fromthe concert was she got arrested
cool.
So I got like a new favoritesong from them.
So one of the openers with theslackers that was Sunday night
house of blues, orlando.
Monday night, slackers playspineapples.
You were there, did you see me?

Speaker 1 (53:03):
I was right in front.
I was doing this.

Speaker 2 (53:05):
Charlie Brown, You're in the back okay, that's
respect this respectable.
So slackers Monday night.
Now that's kind of where ourstory ties To an end, because I
sent you a song you did.
Who sent you?
Paul Davidson midnight.

(53:25):
Writer.
A lead singer of the slackers,vic.

Speaker 1 (53:28):
Wow, so you're on this like concert tour?
Yes, and here we land, so I'mjust ready for the digits.

Speaker 2 (53:38):
Yeah, actually I was talking to him, yeah, and he was
like, yeah, just put yournumber.

Speaker 1 (53:42):
Cool dude was super cool, super to.
Is he around from around here?
No, he's from the Bronx, butyeah, that's him.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
Nice guy Vic.
Shout out Vic.
So who's he?
The?

Speaker 1 (53:52):
one in the middle.

Speaker 2 (53:53):
I mean I'm texting him because I'm like this guy, I
talked to him after the show.
He's doing what I want to do,like he's playing shows with his
live band All over, touring,touring, touring, touring,
non-stop show, show, show liketravel.

Speaker 1 (54:07):
Yeah, you were telling me the other day that
you do have like songs thatyou've written, kind of.

Speaker 2 (54:15):
We want to hear that.

Speaker 1 (54:17):
You gotta work on that.
Yeah, I don't have any.
Yeah, original music.

Speaker 2 (54:21):
I'm the one artist in this town that everybody I mean
Steve Keller wrote about mebefore he wrote my Like a cover
article.
He wrote about me being One ofthe.
What did he say?
I mean, it's like I can.
I can read it, but he's justsaid put her with some
songwriters from originalsongwriters and give her the

(54:42):
biggest stage we have.
Yeah, yeah, everybody here,though, is obsessed with
original music.
There's something to it I meanI'm, you have the talent.
I'm just saying you have thestage presence.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
It just feels like the next step and I know you
have something written down.
You're just like coy about it.
It's not really there, but itexists.

Speaker 2 (55:04):
I mean some of the most famous songs Are covers
like Joe Cocker help for myfriends, yeah cover.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
Well, you can dig deep into, like the 70s.
Yeah, that you like cuz, thenit yeah.
Down the bay you may let us hit.
You is hip.

Speaker 2 (55:27):
Send you a song a day .

Speaker 1 (55:28):
You should it really made a cooking quite pleasant.
So we're doing all covers.
Cool, yes, thanks, thanksgivingEve that is the night that I
met Josh as a yeah, when we wereadults.
I it was.
It was Thanksgiving Eve, but itwas at Ichabod's.

(55:48):
It like then the.
Do you remember back then likeyeah, but it's at pineapples.

Speaker 2 (55:56):
Now it's no longer and you tried to go to one of my
pineapple shows, but it was toofull.
You had to oh it was yourbirthday party.
Now your birthday party, ohyeah, packed.

Speaker 1 (56:08):
Yeah, but I but I went there.
Yeah, right, you didn't see meplay, though.

Speaker 2 (56:13):
You know, I saw you go on stage, oh, but I probably
left soon after.
Sometimes I got that story, Ilove that story.
That was fun night.

Speaker 1 (56:21):
Oh, you should throw a great party, thanks to Chris
Maslow's gallery.
All right, I want to play agame with you before you leave
you because I know that what isit we need to know about?
Oh my gosh.
So you are currently single.
Yes, so we need to know what'sShar good and what's no good.

Speaker 2 (56:48):
This is why Nico is my favorite person in this area.
One of my favorite people,she's just so.
I Like playing games on it.

Speaker 1 (56:57):
You just do shit like .
So I think the next time youcome back we're going to like
yeah, you could keep that, youcan.
We could maybe have like someblind dates lined up, wouldn't
that be?

Speaker 2 (57:09):
fun.
Yeah, I would love to see youguys.

Speaker 1 (57:13):
Bachelors okay, but first we have to find out, Okay,
what kind of.
Let me get this.

Speaker 2 (57:18):
Out of the way, or you want it yeah.
I don't know if you want thislive streamed, but I do have to
get this one question out of theway have you or would you ever
dive into the girl pond?
No, no I just because I I Know,let's just say no yes.

Speaker 1 (57:37):
Okay, that's all we need to know, all right.
So, gentlemen, it's all you.
All right, I'm going to readsome love the ladies though I
love the lady, yes, and you tellme if it's char good or no good
.
Okay, all right.
What do you think about likebig beefy muscles?

Speaker 2 (57:55):
depends on the aesthetic of the big beefy
muscles.
So if it's like a farmer, chargood, country boy, sure good if
he gets the muscles from working, building a house, breaking a
horse, if he gets the musclesfrom just going to the gym and
drinking protein shakes andthat's it, no good.

Speaker 1 (58:12):
No, very interesting, interesting, all right.
What if he's a smoker,cigarette smoker?

Speaker 2 (58:19):
Cigarette smoker, I prefer not.
No good Vape, nicotine vape.
No good, no, throw that shit inthe trash.
Yeah, that's horrible Yucky.

Speaker 1 (58:31):
Okay, what about a fellow musician?

Speaker 2 (58:34):
Yeah, we can jam.

Speaker 1 (58:36):
That's hot yeah but you did tell me that you would
never date someone in your band.

Speaker 2 (58:39):
I can't get involved with the boys in my band.
That's probably for the best.
Just changes the dynamic.
Yeah, I've been there and no,no, no good.

Speaker 1 (58:48):
Okay, what if he was like an engineer?
Though kind of nerdy but, Nerdy, but, like you know, engineers,
there's so many of them here.

Speaker 2 (58:57):
Uh, I'm gonna say no good sorry, because I I know
from experience, like theengineers I've met, like it's
nothing to talk about, it's notthat, it's just I.
I end up feeling like the theman, because I'm like.
I got all the confidence.
For what?

Speaker 1 (59:15):
Yeah, I mean, I bet that's your biggest challenge.
Is somebody that can handle yougoing up on stage and having
five stalkers right?
What if this gentleman had nocar?
Ride share guy, ride share guy.
Um can he drive he can drive,but I don't know why he doesn't

(59:37):
have a car.

Speaker 2 (59:40):
I'm gonna say, come on, no good, like the standards
are high.
Yes, we're holding thestandards up, yeah.

Speaker 1 (59:46):
What if he didn't go to college?
Um, did he go?

Speaker 2 (59:48):
to trade school?
No what?
Why didn't he go to college?
He's just dumb.
No, Josh, Josh didn't make itthrough college.

Speaker 1 (59:55):
I think he went through two semesters, through
two semesters, so I'll leavethat there.
I don't know.
Some people just aren't collegebound.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
Yeah, I, that's fine.
I went to a community collegeso I would not be in debt.
I I respect that more thansomebody who goes to college and
pays for the college experienceand then is thousands of
dollars in debt.
Yeah and also pretentious aboutit.
Yes, so if he didn't go tocollege and he doesn't have debt
, it's all sure, good All good,all right.

Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
What about if he lives with his parents?
I know you Live with yourparents.

Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
Why would you even ask me that?

Speaker 1 (01:00:26):
then Well, because it's a little bit different, I
don't know why.

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
I lose his parents.

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
Oh, I also think that , like your generation, because
of, like the state of therecession.
Yeah, it's like a little bitdifferent, so you're so good his
parents as long as you can takeme out on a date.

Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
If he can plan a date .

Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
That's like a bare minimum, bare minimum.
Day date, day date oh, you likeday dates, oh, night date.

Speaker 2 (01:00:52):
Yes, because you're performing at night and also
like then there's no pretence oflike we're just here to have
sex, like I'm here to get toknow somebody.
See how they interact in thewild.
Where what is like a date thatthat would impress you, that
would impress me Probably ifthey knew how to shop for a
picnic and knew what to bringLike so that we could have a

(01:01:14):
good time.

Speaker 1 (01:01:15):
Listen up, boys.
What if he's under 25?

Speaker 2 (01:01:26):
Okay, we're not gonna go under 25.
That's no good to you.

Speaker 1 (01:01:30):
Yeah, what if they're over 40?

Speaker 2 (01:01:32):
That is no good.
No, I've gone older and it'snot good.
Okay, so you want?

Speaker 1 (01:01:37):
to keep it in the late 20s.

Speaker 2 (01:01:40):
I like silver foxes.
Like I like silver foxes I,especially if they're a lead
singer.
But you know that 40s becauseif they're interested in me,
then that means that they don'thave enough self-respect to Like
realize that that's weird, bro.

Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
But what if?
But what if they are not serialdaters of the 20s?
What if they just see somethingin you because you're?

Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
of course they do amazing and then maybe then
maybe Then that's not, that'snot my problem.
Yeah that's everybody else'sproblem, because I'm sure good.
Yes, you are.

Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
What if they didn't have any style girl?

Speaker 2 (01:02:18):
No good, you wouldn't try to have some kind of style.
No, style is not a style likeyeah, bring it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:24):
I can't even think of somebody with no style someone
that just I don't know where's apolo shirt and Some shorts
every day.
Jesse has style, though, yeahno, you can get your basics at

(01:02:49):
Ross, but yeah, but if you'reshopping for your main staples,
no, no, no, no.
What if he's a gamer?
Oh, wake up in the middle ofthe night.
Or you're up in the middle ofthe night, you walk in and he's
like, is that acceptablebehavior?
Everybody's allowed to haveinterest?
Okay, so that's not a dealbreaker for you.

(01:03:09):
I.

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
Just know that I've gone on dates with guys that are
into anime, that are into, like, video games Not my bag, baby.
Oh, it's not a bag All right,but everybody's allowed to have
their interest.
It's just not.
It's not a personality that Ihave enjoyed in the past.

Speaker 1 (01:03:25):
What exactly what if they were like covered in
tattoos?
It?

Speaker 2 (01:03:29):
depends, depends.
I don't.
I like pretty boys that have abad look, like Lil Peep was
really good at that, lil Peep.

Speaker 1 (01:03:40):
You remember Lil Peep ?
I don't, but his name is MakeMe Laugh.
Oh, recipes, oh, he died.

Speaker 2 (01:03:44):
He was very like pretty.
He was a pretty boy, but he hadthese like crazy, like cry baby
on his neck, like crazy tattoos.
So tattoos they're okay.
I don't have any tattoos.

Speaker 1 (01:03:56):
You don't.
I don't have any piercings, myears are not pierced.
What.

Speaker 2 (01:04:00):
I might get the only tattoo I would ever get, and
this is a local celebrity,brevard exclusive.

Speaker 1 (01:04:07):
I like that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
I would get char good on my knuckles.
Do it Because.

Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
Ozzy did it.
What's stopping you?

Speaker 2 (01:04:16):
My parents.
They probably paid that.
I'm like no.

Speaker 1 (01:04:19):
You should do it in white ink.
Oh, or I have white ink andit's like so subtle Nobody can
see it.
It's all just for me.

Speaker 2 (01:04:25):
Spin worry.
No, no, no, I you know, glow inthe dark.

Speaker 1 (01:04:30):
Ooh, glow in the dark that way when you're performing
.
That's good, that is good,that's good so you said tattoos.
Okay, moving on Well, you know,tattoos, maybe, maybe, yeah,
Okay, what about?
Obviously surfer, surfer, yes,that's a good one.
Yeah, surfers are hot.
What about a biker?

Speaker 2 (01:04:49):
What kind of bike Like a motorcycle, motorcycle
bike oh.
Especially if he fixes it upand knows how to.

Speaker 1 (01:04:55):
Okay, yeah, you take a ride on his bike.

Speaker 2 (01:04:58):
No, probably not.

Speaker 1 (01:04:59):
Oh really.

Speaker 2 (01:04:59):
I'm very self-protective, I do something
grisky yeah.
Maybe a little Vespa ride, likesomething cute but Vespa ride
in grease.
If I have to suit up, then Idon't know.

Speaker 1 (01:05:11):
Yeah, have to wear a leather in case you fall.
What if the dude's in themilitary?

Speaker 2 (01:05:20):
Um, I so let's just say you started Good.
I met a.
I met a Marina training inWashington DC.

Speaker 1 (01:05:29):
He was on leave.

Speaker 2 (01:05:30):
she was a Kiwi in the club, but then you would have
to travel or like are youtalking about?
I don't understand thestipulations of this game like
are you talking about marriagelike?
Marriage dating, but also.

Speaker 1 (01:05:41):
I don't date.

Speaker 2 (01:05:42):
I don't date.
Oh, you're just like we'retogether and no, I'm.
I'm getting to know somebodyand they want to propose.

Speaker 1 (01:05:49):
Okay, so it goes from from we're getting to know each
other to it's me and you and ifthey want to step up and okay,
I'm single until I'm marriedinteresting so and I wouldn't
ever accept like a commitmentfrom someone like let's just
date each other.

Speaker 2 (01:06:05):
No, I will never have a boyfriend, I will never be
exclusive before marriage, likeit up to the point where, where
he gets down on his knees andI'm expecting like at least
three or four proposals, I'mgonna have like at least eight
different people.
I'm talking to what if they'relike what?
If you like them, though, andthey're like please stop dating
these boys then he has topropose and build a house and

(01:06:27):
have a farm ready for us to makebabies on.
That's very nice oh, it's allthought out apparently.

Speaker 1 (01:06:39):
What if he's bald?
If he's bald, that was my last.
Where's the record?

Speaker 2 (01:06:44):
scratch, no, no good let's see, I'm trying to think
of some hot bald people.

Speaker 1 (01:06:49):
Are some hot bald people.
All right, any other dealbreakers?

Speaker 2 (01:06:57):
deal breakers religious.
He's got to be, he's got tolove the Lord, okay, he has to
be pursuing the Lord, and if hedoesn't see himself teaching our
kids how to pray before bed,then I'm not gonna be the heart
for him yeah, he's got to be inon it with you, yeah what about
like things, that you areactually like that, like you,

(01:07:19):
you look yeah, that'sinteresting.
I used to always look at guysshoes right away yeah shoes for
on a man, immediately tell youwho they are.
Yeah, yeah, probably shoes face, face shoes up and down, up and
down.

Speaker 1 (01:07:35):
All right now, we know.
Now we have a list ofstipulations boys call us, let
us know if you would like to wina date, a blind date with
Shargun.
You're gonna date with Shargun.

Speaker 2 (01:07:48):
Make a little jingle out of it and then I need a
homesteading husband, cuz I'mgonna be out playing rock and
roll yeah, he's got to raise thekids.

Speaker 1 (01:08:00):
Yeah, yeah, you choose.
That'll be like round three,like round one will do, like
questions, round two will dosomething.

Speaker 2 (01:08:08):
I think we should start with the charcuterie board
.
That's a good idea.
Yeah, all right boy everymunchin.

Speaker 1 (01:08:12):
Give us a call and we'll hook it up.
What's the number?
Oh yeah, we don't have a number, but we do have a Instagram and
Facebook page.
You can.
You can let us know there ifyou want to win a date with
Shargun.

Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
We'll plan it.
See how my middle name isanonymous.

Speaker 1 (01:08:38):
Yeah, I felt like.
I felt like the guy fromTitanic.
Did it awesome.
Thank you for sharing all ofyour secrets with us.
Thank you for having me comeback with some dates.
I would love to be awesome.
All right, bye, bye to be asponsor or nominated guest.

(01:09:02):
Hit us up on the socials untilnext time.
Bye, you, you, you, you.