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November 10, 2023 • 43 mins

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If you've ever marveled at the intersection of music and art, prepare to be bowled over by our guests for this episode. Renowned artist Derek Gores, whose works have graced the Playboy Hugh Hefner special tribute edition cover and the official Derby poster for the 2013 Kentucky Derby, joins us with the versatile Andrew Spear, a muralist, illustrator, designer, and music trivia fanatic. Together, they enlighten us about their upcoming show, Rock Paper Scissors, at the Derek Gores Gallery, sharing their plans for the show, its merchandise, and the live set from John Robert Bridges III!

Ever wondered about the creative process involved in merging music with art? We've got you covered! Join us in our riveting conversation with Andrew, as he discusses his 90s-inspired playing cards, his passion for painting, and how he creatively combines his love for art and music. We also explore the bond between Derek and Andrew, their collaborations on projects for Van Halen and Live Nation, and delve into a fascinating discussion about the legacy of the late, great Tom Petty.

In our final segment, we offer a peek into the personal lives of Andrew and Brittany, revealing intriguing details ranging from their favorite colors to Starbucks orders. We also chat about their upcoming collaborative art show at Derek Gores Gallery and their efforts to use the power of art to transform tragedies into something beautiful, as exemplified by their incredible Kool-Aid Man mural at the Hideaway Bar in Orlando. Tune in for a captivating journey through art, music trivia, and a whole lot of fun!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to Local Celebrity.
I'm Nico Lehman and today Ihave Derek Gores and Andrew
Spear.
Welcome boys.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (00:11):
Of course, derek is best known for his Playboy Hugh
Hefner special tribute editioncover, the official Derby poster
for the 2013 Kentucky Derby,and he was an artist in
residency at the Hotel Bel Airduring Oscar season.
That must have been amazing.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
It's true, that was wow.
The brunch at the Wolfgang Puckalone sticks in my mind forever
for sure.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
Did you see a bunch of celebrities there?

Speaker 2 (00:40):
Saw some good ones.
Let's see Bumped into.
I forgot Dennis Quaid.
We saw Bono, we saw MarthaStewart.
A few more, A couple more.
I just can't.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
Yeah, there's too many, too many, you know.
And Andrew, you are a muralist,an illustrator, you make
clothing with your artwork andyou are a music trivia fanatic.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
I was up until about 2003 and then I don't really
know what's happened musically,because I'm not older.
But I still try to payattention.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
But all the stuff before that.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
Yeah, I'm good to go, Okay, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
That's cool, and you've done a lot of murals in
Orlando, predominantly right.

Speaker 3 (01:22):
A lot in Orlando.
But yeah, just nation all over,the US All over, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
I've seen your Instagram and it's full of
amazing artwork.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
Thank you, Including some stuff for TV shows right.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
Yes, you did Hard Rock for the real world.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
Mm-hmm, did you get to In Vegas?

Speaker 1 (01:41):
Yeah, in Vegas, and you also did a Hard Rock in
South Dakota.
The tribe chiefs.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
That was a marionette-making artwork Crazy,
yes.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
Yeah, that was just passed over the summer and I
mean it was like they had like awhole ritual and blessed it.
It had to get approval from thefive tribes.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
Of course.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
I mean it was like a big deal.
So I felt like I was like in.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
That's so cool, which is?

Speaker 3 (02:04):
pretty dope, yeah, but yeah, hard Rock all like
pretty much all over the country.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
Yeah For them at this point.
Okay, that's so cool.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
I heard you're the stairwell specialist.
Is that true?

Speaker 3 (02:17):
I am Just on the weekends, though Depends on how
cold it is outside, of course.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
Well, Derek has brought you here he has.
This weekend, especially forwhat?
What is going on at the DerekGores Gallery.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
We have our new show opening for Friday.
The show is called Rock PaperScissors, which is a name that
we've kind of texted about forthe last like five years.
You know rock because of ourlove of rock music and 80s stuff
, and then the paper and thescissors for collage and for his
cool art, but this isn't ourfirst go around.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
We've done this before.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
Like years ago, we did it.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
And here at EGAD yeah .

Speaker 2 (03:01):
We that show.
We called a different name.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
It was a different name.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
We called it Torah Torah.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
Oh, that's at the first spot you had.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
First spot.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
But then we did the other one when you were off of
Highland, I don't remember Rightwe did.
We did one of them.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
And that's one of the names.
The first one was definitelycalled Torah.
Torah, which is a, which is aVan.
Halen song title so we were theonly ones who cared about the
name, but that was all it took.
Yeah, that one nerds.
And then we've met up a coupletimes.
I was telling my wife,cassandra, that one show in
Orlando I I showed up a littlebit late Andrew here was

(03:35):
pretending to be me and tellingme and telling people please,
please, ma'am, step, don't touchthe art.
Step away from the art.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
I was like a little too close and now like not being
the bodyguard, but I'm likewell, they don't know that I'm
not Derek, they don't know who Iam.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
So can you please Were they trying to like step
aside, stand back a little bitStand back yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
So we've had, we've had a in our over our history at
this point we've done.
We don't get to do stuff asmuch together so why are you
traveling, traveling a lot.
Just yeah, you know life getsin the way of life.
So it's like you know kids orwhatever and not me, not me but
him, but just getting theschedules together.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
And yeah, so he, he, he dropped this a couple months
ago, or maybe a month ago.
It was like you want to getdown.
I'm like yeah absolutely, dude,let's go.
So it gives you got the newspace.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
I wanted to check out the new space over here.
Beautiful, yeah, awesome.
Well, it's great to have youhere.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
Thank you.
You want to show us what youbrought.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
Okay, yeah, show and tell time.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
I got some.
Well, I guess, just so peopleknow what the show it's going to
be.
Obviously it's going to be it'sa music show.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
Yeah, all month long.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
Yes, right.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
And the opening is Friday, first Friday.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
Tomorrow Yep, so depending on when you air this
sucker.
But yeah, friday from 530 to830 in the O'galley Arts
District and yeah, my gallery isat 1418 Highland and Art.
At the tail end of the show wehave a live set from John Robert
Bridges, the third, who maybeyou can borrow his guitar or

(05:12):
something.
Do a little noise yourself.
Air guitar, Air guitar, yep.
But yeah, it's a show that'spacked full of music and
inspiration, other pop culturefun, and I was willing to have
anything that Andy here couldbring, along with a handful
other other cool artists.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
Super cool.
So let's kind of get a littleflavor of what we're going to
see this month at Derek.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
It's going to be a little bit of merchandise.
I love merchandise.
I got my new sticker packs.
These are amazing.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
I think anybody who loves pop culture, rock and roll
.
These are so colorful andcreative.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
These are fun.
There's five in this, so if youcan't afford a piece of artwork
, it's like well, you can getsome sickers for 10 bucks or
whatever.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
And it's a pack of stickers.
It's a pack.
Yeah, there's five in herepeople.
Okay, that makes sense.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
You got to support these locals while they're still
local.
Yeah, damn it, yeah.
And then, because of the musicthing it inspired me to get
together for I'm doing anotherrelease of playing cards.
This is the 90s edition, if youcan see this on a podcast, but
if not, you're going to have togo to the gallery.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
Also, this is the second edition.
You're saying that you did apack of cards before.
Let's see the other side, yeah.

Speaker 3 (06:28):
This is it's all 90s artists on the face cards.
Unbelievable Dig it, you'llhave all the trivia as far as
people go on who's that, who'snot that.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
If you can't afford artwork, you can buy yourself a
deck of cards and you drew likethe number three in the hearts
you hand drew that, all that.

Speaker 3 (06:45):
Yeah, very Christmas, very yeah, casino approved.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
That's so cool and all the white areas you drew,
that also yeah.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
I did that with.
I etched it Brilliant.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
Yeah, took a lot of time.
Stone tablets.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
Yeah, well, it's going to use an etch of sketch,
but I couldn't find it.
I don't know if they do, maybethey do Nice.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
So, andrew, do you just paint or draw?
Well, you paint too, paint,draw rock and roll, or do you
kind of go outside of that atany point?

Speaker 3 (07:16):
Yeah, I mean music is just such a big part of it,
because a lot of stuff for hardrock is like usually on my plate
.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
you know with them.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
So they'll be like oh you know, I just finished a
piece of Jay-Z and Beyonce, liketwo days ago for the one, the
casino down in Miami, so there'salways a constant flow of that.
And then lately it's been, um,just trying to find out that,

(07:45):
like with the, with like I got athreat, the store, and that's
kind of what we referring tobefore right, right.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
You can find all of andrew's merchandise um artwork
on his merchandise at his store.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
Well, that, yeah, but but also with threadless,
because I wanted to like nothave to give them half, because
they take fifty percent yeah, soI'm, I actually just started.
Uh, I'm opening my, my ownstore online and that's a spear
life dot me right, so it's, butit's still being.
Still being built is still like.
This is a couple things on thebed.

(08:17):
After we open the show, I'mgonna start filling up with yeah
, all the stuff that works here,so if you're out of town you
can come see it.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
Maybe get something love that um, let's take a look
at this piece oh well, this issomething completely different.

Speaker 3 (08:30):
Yeah, this was.
I mean we're kind of shy, hishalloween just went by, but this
was for halloween and this waseverything's hand hand drawn,
except for the hands, except,except, yeah, except for the
colors, and then I colored itwith a mouse on the computer,
because I'm fifty and I'm stilltrying to figure it out
everyone's like why don't youget the back book of the thing

(08:52):
in the pan?
And I'm like why don't you justlet me do this?

Speaker 1 (08:55):
by hand.
That's still.
It's still doing its thing socool.
Lots of great color in yourartwork thank you now I saw on
your um, on your instagram, thatyou are a music trivia fanatic
I am so I wanna play a littlegame with you today oh man, I
hope I can pass this I hope youcan pass it too, because I asked
a I to give me some hardquestions oh man but they're all

(09:19):
.
I've took them all from yourmurals, so if you've painted it,
it's about them okay so I'm notstepping outside of your
wheelhouse.
Are you ready to play?
Yeah, absolutely, and you canuse derrick as your lifeline oh
nice, my phone a friend yeah,phone a friend if you need to.
Are you ready to play?

Speaker 3 (09:35):
uh, yeah, let's go alright.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
So question number one madonna starred in a film
directed by her then husband,guy richie.
What is the title of that film?
Uh, that's swept away ding dingwell done nice, very good, very
good.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
Yeah, I was like my madonna friends, if I like my
madonna friends, if I didn't getthat, they'd be like bullshit
too, and I saw your madonnamural.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
It was the one with her with the cones uh-huh
excellent job.
Where, what?
Where is that that's in?

Speaker 3 (10:04):
miami, I believe cool in there in there.
Yeah, they, I did a bunch ofcards with them and they they
have a bunch of artwork in theiruh, high roller.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
I think that's in there, so cool alright.
Next question john lennon songimagine was co-produced by him,
and which famous producer philspecter yeah hey, very good, I
am alright.
We saw shanae doe connor on oneof your cards.
Uh, she had a nineteen ninetyhit.

(10:33):
Nothing compares to you.
Who was it written by?
It was an iconic musician don'tpretend, I know it I know it
was.

Speaker 3 (10:44):
Look, I can't, I don't know if you for you.
Yeah, that's uh.
That would be uh, prince rogersnelson that was another
question.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
What's his real name?

Speaker 3 (10:55):
I'm a prince fanatic, like, get me on a prince show
and I'll, I'll try that with, Imean, the prince people crazy,
but I would, I'd go on that toookay actually we're gonna go see
she'll era.
We're gonna go see she'll be onmonday at ebbcott though they
go not to promote that place,but still alright, next question

(11:15):
.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
Mic jagger released a solo album in nineteen ninety
three, featuring the singlesweet thing.
What is the title of the album?

Speaker 3 (11:24):
nineteen, ninety three, uh, I, I know the first
one he did.
She's the boss.
I don't know that, I don't knowthat night, I don't that one I,
I stopped you yeah, I got thatthey met it's called wandering
spirit uh it sounds like I'm noton a dump booth.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
I'm not gonna go home fall I think this one will be
easy for you, don't?
Don't, don't, don't, lose asound from uh prices right the,
the, the, the, the, the, the,the the trip home yet that that
that's.
That's my phone ring okay,which beasty boys album one the
grammy of the year for bestalternative music album in

(12:06):
nineteen, ninety, nine oh, hellonasty that is correct, yeah
very good.

Speaker 3 (12:15):
I, I, yes, I've met I yeah, actually um dj hurricane
and I he's on, he's in my phone,which is like I'm so dropping
that right now, but I, I, I, I,I.
I got to hang out with themback in the day and uh, you see
to buy weed, offer a keep, howland stuff in new york they just
got a street, they're straight.
Yeah, that's right where paul'sfatigue is on.

(12:36):
Uh, was that lap lap yet?
And where is it?
I feel like clinton likesomewhere like barry, like right
over there yeah, right overthere can I ask you for a quick
list?

Speaker 2 (12:47):
I know you.
I know you met david ly roth.
Is that wasn't it while he wasthe mt, or not?

Speaker 3 (12:52):
and who else?

Speaker 2 (12:53):
who else?

Speaker 3 (12:53):
give us a list of who else I I couldn't if I if well,
you live in new york.
I used to bartender new york asas that here gallery on six
avenue in spring, like all thepeople that would come in there,
you know, because they do likemovie readings during the day
and it was an art gallery atnight.
Now it's like it's still there,like, which is crazy, it's like

(13:14):
right off the solo yeah on butI became friends with.
Like Cindy Loper would come inall the time.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
Oh, my God.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
And like Alec Baldwin and I remember seeing Seymour
Philip, Seymour Hoffman.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
Yeah, I saw him riding a bike once, super quiet.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
Yeah, and like kind of scary.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
And I was like fuck that's him.

Speaker 3 (13:31):
I don't wanna bother him.
Yeah, you know that whole NewYork thing too.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
You don't wanna be like that guy.
Yeah, you don't wanna be thatguy.
Like, oh, you're the guy.
I've never been that girl and Iregret it.
Now I'm like if I had been thatguy I would have like a wall
full of celebrity photos.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
I think maybe what's more interesting is like like
getting it wrong or likesomething that goes bad, Like I
remember.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
You get like a phone thrown at you.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
Well, like the first person I met when I moved, there
was Willem Dafoe, and I calledhim William and he just looked
at me and I was like what's?

Speaker 1 (14:05):
that I'm like come on , william.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
And I was like oh, I said fucking name wrong so close
.
Well, like I remember NataliePortman coming in one day
getting the, and I'm like thestyle was movie hadn't come out
yet and she's like can I get aglass of wine?
I'm like Natalie.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
You know, I know, I'm not 21, right?

Speaker 3 (14:21):
All right, you were in the professional.
She totally was wasn't she yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
Yeah, yes, she was.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
All right, more trivia.

Speaker 3 (14:30):
Yeah, oh sure.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers performed at the
Super Bowl halftime show.
What year was that?

Speaker 3 (14:39):
Wow man.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
See, he knows the pet , he loves the pet, he cares not
about the sports ball?
Yeah, I don't know about sports.

Speaker 3 (14:46):
it was 2006, 2007?
Close 2008.
Oh, when was Prince 2000.
I don't have that in my paper.
Oh yeah, maybe I'm gettingconfused with Prince, but yeah,
that's unfortunate.
Yeah, sports ball, yeah, I likehow you call it sports ball.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
Yeah, his January Go Cows posts are are always well
received.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
Yeah, go Cows, go Cows.
My husband got me a shirt thatjust says go sports yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
I could care less.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
Yeah, I think we're too busy playing our own games
against ourselves with makingartwork, yeah, you know.
So it's like a chess game.
So in a way we're playing asport against ourselves and then
we put it out, so that I guessthat's kind of like a sport in a
weird way.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
Yeah, but nobody gets hurt.
No one gets hurt except ourself esteem.

Speaker 3 (15:38):
That's about it, that's true, if nobody buys our
playing cards, that's sad, yeah,if no one comes to the show and
we're like we're doing all thisfor you guys, and then you know
it's show up, you, the fans,what are we doing?

Speaker 2 (15:48):
You, the fans, come to the art show.

Speaker 3 (15:50):
Yeah, come unite over , not on sports ball Anybody
who's.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
anybody will be at this show, so if you want to be
anybody, you should come.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
Come on out.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
Cindy.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
Lauper might be there .
Yeah, call her out.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
Yeah, has anybody contacted you, like on Instagram
or anywhere?
You put your artwork on socialmedia and been like oh, thank
you so much.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
Uh, oddly enough yeah , it hasn't panned out yet, but
I had an amazing January 1stwhere Nile Rogers hit me up on
Instagram.
Now, if you don't know who NileRogers is, he is a dude from
Sheik.
He wrote ah, freak out Goodtimes, get lucky for Daupon

(16:33):
Borderline from Madonna.
Yep, let's dance for DavidBowie, like he's written
everything.
And he had seen my work onInstagram, which is at Spear
Life, if you want to check itout.
And he sent me his number andthen I called it and he didn't
answer the phone.
So I'm calling another friendof mine and I'm like yo, this is

(16:54):
some bullshit.
I called his number it's likewell, but it was a New York
number and then, as I'm on thephone, he called.
He called back and I've heardhis voice and we just talked,
for I fanboyed for like a good10 minutes and then I was like I
gotta get it out.
And then we talked about doing,about me going down to Turks

(17:18):
and Caicos where he's opening astudio to Murally Inside of it,
and we've gone back and forthover email but he's on tour with
Doran Doran right now and he'slike crazy busy and I'm just
like look, if I just get thephone call and I get to tell you
guys the story, but that wasenough for me.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
But it's on the table .
He just needs to find the timeit is?

Speaker 3 (17:39):
It is yeah, it was funny cause he was dropping
names on me Like he's like, well, you know, I was gonna open
this place with David and I waslike David, he's like Bowie, I'm
like oh, yeah.
And then I was gonna do it withMichael and I'm like Jackson,
he's like no, hutchins.
And I was like yeah.
And then he said somethingabout Pharrell Williams and I
was like, yeah, man, I get itwith him.

(18:00):
I'm like every time I text himback, he never hits me back and
he's like, oh, you know,pharrell Williams.
I'm like, no, I don't, butyou're talking to me like you
know all these people, like Iknow, and I'm not a regular
person, I'm not you, mr Studio54.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
He's like yeah, yeah, I will introduce you.
Yeah, okay, you are a Van Halenfan, so you should know.

Speaker 3 (18:21):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
Song Jump was released, on which album known
for its futuristic cover art1984.
Uh huh, did you do an albumcover?
Am I wrong about that?
Not for Van Halen.

Speaker 3 (18:35):
He's worked with Van.
You worked.
Did you do the shirts?

Speaker 2 (18:38):
I did some merch for them for the last decade or so
of their existence, yep.

Speaker 3 (18:43):
I think, yeah, people should know that Derek was
doing live nation shirts, likeyou know, for like crazy legit
artists, and he passed me acouple gigs on that to get
involved because of the musiclove, so that was nice.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
How long have you guys known each other?

Speaker 2 (19:00):
I guess it's a good 10 minutes, decade or so.

Speaker 3 (19:03):
Yeah, I met him on the way in and I'm like, just if
I can read this and we'll saythat we know each other.
I don't.
No, we met.
Um, I think we both we've bothbitten on a on a gig at the same
time.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
Oh for the amway center.

Speaker 3 (19:16):
Was that for the amway?

Speaker 1 (19:18):
Did one of you get it , one of you didn't?

Speaker 3 (19:20):
He got it.
So I was like fuck this foolyou know.
And then but I was like I gotto learn his secrets, so I'll
just be nice to him.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
Yeah.
So I you know you got to befriend, your enemy, yeah, and we
keep them close yeah.

Speaker 3 (19:34):
Exactly, you got to know what he's up to.
But yeah, that's why I'm I havemy hand on his knee.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
So so you said you know the Prince is real names.
You know Tom Petty's real namewith middle name included.
I just get Tom.

Speaker 3 (19:49):
Petty people going to hate me.
Is it Gainesville.
No, I know his brother, Bruce,but that doesn't really do
anything.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
Bruce Petty yeah.

Speaker 3 (19:57):
Bruce Petty.

Speaker 1 (19:59):
But now I don't.
Thomas Earl Petty.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
Earl, oh Earl.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
Yeah, what a name.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
Did you, did you go what a writer like a year after
he died.
Did you go up?
Wasn't there like a tributeshow?
Did you go up to that?

Speaker 3 (20:14):
Oh, they do the the Tom Petty weekend.
They actually they just did it.
And at the Heartwood state,this Heartwood sound studio up
there, huge spot, and they hadme do a mural of Tom.
Actually, in the piece theoriginal piece is actually going

(20:35):
to be hanging at the show onFriday with Derek and myself.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
Oh, my goodness.

Speaker 3 (20:39):
But the but but that piece, that the mural, or even
the artwork, was eventually putonto video for the song
Gainesville, which was on thebox set that came out with Tom
Petty on the American treasure.
So the the actual artworkthat's in the video is what's
going to be hanging at thegallery, but it's still up in
Gainesville as well and ofcourse Petty's a, you know, a

(21:02):
Florida legend.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
Yeah, yeah, can I?

Speaker 2 (21:04):
sneak in a question.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
I love hearing you talk about music.
What do you love about Petty?
What, what's?
What is it about Petty?

Speaker 3 (21:12):
What?
What do I love about Tom Petty?
Tom Petty's like like the last,really amazing, like not last,
but like when you think ofAmerican songwriters, like he's
just so, like he's always beenthere since I was a kid, you
know, when you watch, like when,when, like the you got lucky

(21:35):
video came out like 1980, whatwas that?
1983 when it came out.
Or 84?
Like that was the first videowhere they had to add an extra
part of a song to continue thevideo because the video was so
long, which is interesting.
And actually Van Halen did thatwith, with the cathedral, with
intruder on the pretty womanvideo.

(21:56):
But but if you think about greatAmerican songwriters, like
there's not that many, I meanthere's a lot of great ones I
don't want to like say, like youknow, people like Tom Waits or
people like Dylan, bob Dylan oror even like Tom Petty, to me is
just like, oh, like JohnMellencamp.
He's just like.
He's so raw and like didn'tgive a shit, didn't care, just

(22:21):
did his thing and just did itwell.
He just, yeah, everything hedid was like really worth
listening to If you haven't gonefurther and it was catalog.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
I always like with him that he had the kind of raw
barband style you know emotionalstories, but then he was also
willing to.
You know, he went kind of theJeff Lynn Beatles kind of
harmony harmony vocals direction.

Speaker 3 (22:44):
It's like nice to listen to yeah, and then he
played bass on the the travel,the travel, woolberries, yeah,
yeah, so he did some outside thebox stuff, and did you know
that his middle name is Earl no.
I do now that Dave Grohl wasinitially asked to be the the
drum replacement for him in like19 after he left Nirvana, and

(23:07):
he he said no because he wantedto try this little thing called
the food fighters.
But they did perform once liveand you can watch it on YouTube,
but it's on SNL.
Oh cool, it's like.
Yeah, so you can see Dave Grohlplaying drums with Tom Petty on
Sunday at live.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
That's cool, so pretty cool, okay.
I just want maybe a couple morequestions and then we'll move
on.
Sure, I don't know if peopleare getting bored of this.

Speaker 3 (23:29):
It's definitely turning to a music thing, but
I'm totally loving it.
Right, Rock paper scissors,Exactly.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
Coming at you live.

Speaker 3 (23:36):
Van Halen's guitarist Eddie.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
Van Halen is known for popularizing which playing
technique?
Oh, that would be fingertapping, that's right.
Two handed fingers tapping.
Yeah, mm, hmm.

Speaker 3 (23:46):
Mm, hmm, bill and Ted's.
Oh, do you remember this one?

Speaker 1 (23:51):
This is like pop culture, shanae O'Connor
famously tore a photo of whichpublic figure during the live TV
performance.

Speaker 3 (23:58):
The Pope.
Yes, mm, hmm, that was him.
That was really cool andinitially, what she, what she,
what she show Lauren Michaels.
Before they did it, I think itwas like a flag, oh, really.
It wasn't it wasn't actuallyJohn Paul.
I love she was a man, she was.
Yeah, If you.
If you haven't seen the docabout her, that's on Showtime.

(24:19):
I want to it's really greatLike, even if you like people
think that she's just like thiscrazy woman.
Yeah, no, I think she had moreto say than anybody like her she
went through a lot and she wasas about as punk rock as you
could go, and I don't think alot of people realize that.
Yeah, they don't they don't seeher backstory.
They just go and it's reallyunfortunate that she ended up.

(24:40):
You know suicide, so that kindof makes that go a little bit
heavier, where it's like well,she was crazy, it's like well,
yeah, but if you see thestruggle of what she went
through, yeah, listen to hermusic.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally Well.
I do want to talk about anotherone of your murals, the
Kool-Aid man.
It has such a cool story behindit.
So let me get this right.
Somebody crashed into a barduring the holiday season and
your idea was to have theKool-Aid man.

(25:13):
Yeah, it was crashing out ofthe wall that they rebuilt Well
what happened?

Speaker 3 (25:18):
Okay, everyone in Orlando knows that there's a bar
that I frequent that's veryclose to where I live and it's
called the Hideaway Bar.
Props to Chip and all the girls, and you know I've done a lot
of artwork there.
But it was a Sunday and whichis which?
It was in December of last yearand apparently they had been a

(25:39):
fight that went up, thatsomething that happened inside
the bar and anyway, this guy gotinto his truck, pulled out and
then rammed right into thestraight front of the bar and
injured a lot of people.
Like people got hurt and endedup in the hospital Surprising
that no one it had there been afootball game going on.
That would have been crazy, butluckily enough it didn't go

(26:04):
down that way, but it was.
What was crazy was that thathappened at about 6 pm and then
the wall was completely clearedout and rebuilt by patrons in
the neighborhood by 12 o'clock.
That night was done.

Speaker 1 (26:22):
That was great.
I read that people came andlike People were bringing pizzas
for like, but I had no idea itwas done in that amount of time.
It was so fast.
And then, how fast did you putyour mural on?
Well?

Speaker 3 (26:31):
then I told Chip I was like, all right, now we have
this big hole and we've got ablank wall, like let me come up
with something.
And I thought what's the bestway to make this negative into a
positive?

Speaker 1 (26:42):
Yeah.
And I got busted into the wallyeah, what busted the wall.

Speaker 3 (26:45):
And I was like well, we'll throw the Kool-Aid guy up
there and make them all MiamiDolphins, because it's the
Dolphins bar when it's like see,when it's football season, but
yeah, and then we made T-shirts.
I made T-shirts of that andthen all the money from the
T-shirts went to the victimsthat were in the hospital.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
Oh my God, you're an angel.

Speaker 3 (27:04):
It was good.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
You also use pop culture in the best sense, like
you're really cheeky about it.

Speaker 3 (27:10):
Yeah, it's like a DJ mashup.
Yeah, it's kind of a way tolook at it.
Yeah, so it's all just playinghomage to the history of the
stuff that we grew up on andjust kind of putting a remix of
it.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
Yeah, of our own style and making it light.

Speaker 3 (27:25):
Yeah.
I know it was tragic, but yeah,people were like put the back
of the car and I'm like now youjust drink over there.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
No, I'll worry about it.
That's like putting the Bostonbomber on the cover of the
magazine.

Speaker 3 (27:39):
Oh, yeah, oh, and when it's on the cover rolling
stone.
Yeah, that didn't fly very well, especially with the.
You know, my Boston boys upthere were not either.
They were like no.

Speaker 1 (27:49):
That was crazy yeah.

Speaker 3 (27:51):
That was completely insane.
Yeah, let's fuck him.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
Yeah, no he's rotting in jail.
Yeah, he is so that's all good,all right.
Well, I've realized that Derekknows you a little better than I
thought that maybe he would,because I've got a second game
for you guys.
Okay.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
Okay, this time Derek is in the hot seat.

Speaker 3 (28:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
And we're playing.
Is it Andrew Spear, or is itBrittany Spear?

Speaker 2 (28:16):
Whoa, wow, that's phenomenal.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
So here's your little paddle.
Oh, and you're going to tell mehe got props.
I know that's just nice, I'llget you a prop next time.

Speaker 3 (28:28):
Look at that, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
That's cute.
Okay, hang on, I got it.

Speaker 3 (28:33):
You know, every time I when people because I know I
had a problem with my last nameuntil Brittany got famous.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
So I went from a spear to a spears like overnight
and I always have to tellpeople Sorry, I was trying to be
clever.

Speaker 3 (28:44):
No, I just I tell people I'm like you know, not
related to Brittany, but I gotthe dance moves.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
Yet do you?
Are we going to see those atthe gallery On?

Speaker 3 (28:53):
the next podcast.
I will definitely do it.
Okay, all right Below the waistPodcast, it's a less lightning.
Yeah, a little less lightning.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
We'll pull out the camera wider, excuse me Wow,
whip it out.
All right, Derek, are you readyto play?
I?

Speaker 2 (29:10):
am.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
Okay, let's do it.
Was it Andrew or Brittany whowas born in Mississippi?

Speaker 2 (29:20):
The accent would tell me that's Brittany.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
That is Brittany, you're right, all right, whose
favorite color is currentlyfluorescent pink?

Speaker 2 (29:34):
I'm going to go with both.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
Actually it's just.
Andrew Brittany's favoritecolor is blue, notoriously, but
she recently posted that it wasyellow.
But the hardcore Brittany'sfans think that that is just a
cry for help, Because for somereason yellow means something
yeah, I got a pee.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
I got a pee.
Yeah, no, it's.
You almost finished your water,I understand.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
Damn Okay.
Whose favorite author isGladwell?
Is that Andrew or Brittany?

Speaker 3 (30:20):
Trying to see if his temples are pulsing.
I don't read.

Speaker 2 (30:23):
Yeah, gladwell Do any music videos Brittany.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
I don't know if Brittany has it in her to read
Malcolm Gladwell.

Speaker 3 (30:31):
Oh yeah, it is Andrew .

Speaker 2 (30:36):
I'm not doing very well.
You're doing all right.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
No, you're doing good , ok, ok, cool.
Whose favorite sport isbasketball?

Speaker 2 (30:44):
That would have to be Brittany.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
That would have to be Brittany, right?
Yeah, we all go be house Gocows.

Speaker 3 (30:50):
It's my favorite team , the cows.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
OK, whose favorite movie is One Crazy Summer.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
I did, shirley.
Yeah, you're right, I don'tknow.
I don't know.
One Crazy Summer was out.

Speaker 1 (31:04):
Brittany's favorite movie is Ferris Bueller's Day
Off, oh.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
Which is also good one.
That's pretty good.
Yeah, oh, john Hughes, johnHughes, yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
Who orders strawberry frappe at Starbucks?

Speaker 2 (31:19):
I was going to say that that would go with Brittany
.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
That is correct, and only because Andrew won't go to
Starbucks.
He is a Duncan guy.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
Oh yep, boston.

Speaker 3 (31:29):
I mean I will go to Starbucks if there's nothing
available, but I'm not.
Yeah, Well, these people gowith the ventes and the I don't
even know what they say I justsay I'll have a small please.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
Yeah, you can translate that on your own
Exactly and while he's in town,I will be taking him to Anaya
and Villain and Apocalypse andgoing with local.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
Yes, go with those.

Speaker 3 (31:49):
That's what.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
I get the Duncan for sure.
Have you done any work forDuncan?
No, that should have.
I have not.
Surely there are some NewEngland brands that you've got
to work with.

Speaker 3 (32:00):
I haven't really done much up in Boston, or I mean
New York.
Yeah, I've done a bunch ofstuff.
But now have you been?

Speaker 2 (32:09):
Boston, Not.
I did some art for New EnglandJournal of Medicine.
That's not so.
Podcast swanky fun.

Speaker 3 (32:19):
Well, that's very good.
Well hunting of you MIT stuffright.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
Why Thank you he?

Speaker 3 (32:26):
used to pretend to be the janitor over there too,
Instead of like mopping up, he'dlike put his artwork up, and he
did that at the what's themuseum, the American Museum of
Arts in.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
Boston.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (32:38):
So it's pretty good.
He also had some good Banksydid that shit too, I think right
, didn't Banksy do that at theTate?

Speaker 2 (32:48):
in England Did he Inside, I didn't do it outside.

Speaker 3 (32:51):
I thought he started changing like Warhol stuff.

Speaker 1 (32:54):
Aren't we about to find out who he is because of
the lawsuit?

Speaker 3 (32:58):
I don't know that is going to really come to play at
this point possibly.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
Well, they already named somebody who's been either
him or it is.

Speaker 3 (33:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
Go for it right.
I think that the I mean see alot, Let us see her face.
I think it's time.
What do you think?

Speaker 3 (33:20):
I think that the cat will be out of the bag once they
realize that I mean, I don'twant to.
I have a little bit of insighton this.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
You do Spill the tea.

Speaker 3 (33:32):
It's more of a group effort than a singular effort,
that's really cool.
So, yeah, everyone was used tosay it was tricky from.
Not who's a band he was in.
Anyone remember tricky from?
He said he was with Bjork backin the day.
Everyone, everyone thought itwas, was he, was, that was him,

(33:56):
and then it went away and thenit was someone else and then it
was David Beckham, like everyoneeveryone over.
That's famous.
It's like one of the SpiceGirls.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
You know all of them.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Yeah, it might be the frog.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
You know, like you said, team sport.

Speaker 3 (34:10):
Mm, hmm.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
Team sport is the Maybe.

Speaker 3 (34:12):
Definitely Could be yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
In this case yeah, all right, one more, I guess OK.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
I'm ready.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
Who Mm?
Hmm, Whose favorite gum flavoris watermelon.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
Sheesh.
I don't know these facts, let's, I'm going to go, I'm I'm
starting to, I'm going to goagainst my instinct and say that
that is definitely spear.

Speaker 3 (34:37):
Eee, he likes fruit striped because it got more
flavor than fruit strap gum.
That was actually Beastie Boyslyric.

Speaker 1 (34:46):
Oh nice so well, thank you for playing, Derek.
You did OK.

Speaker 3 (34:50):
All right, we're going to work on our
relationship.

Speaker 1 (34:52):
Everybody.
You guys need some therapy orsomething.

Speaker 3 (34:55):
So that's what this is.
We're talking it through rightnow Nice.

Speaker 2 (34:59):
Nice, it was fun.
Where was?
Where was my Van Halen songtrivia question for you?
That would have helped.
I could have done better withyou.

Speaker 3 (35:06):
Do you have one?
Yeah that's a top man.
You know that we're nerds withthat stuff.
Super.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
You guys did really good on that, thank you.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
Most of them.
Well done, all right.
All right, I feel good, thoughit was all right?

Speaker 1 (35:18):
Well, share with us your your Insta handles, where
people can find you and yourartwork.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
Go for it.
Sure, yeah, I'm at, you know,at Derrick Gore's.
That's my own art, non-localstuff.
But then the local fund is atDerrick Gore's gallery where we
do the shows and the classes andthe happenings.
And of course next door wouldbe at Rocky Water Mercantile
where you can get all kinds ofclever goods and art supplies

(35:47):
and the best candy around, thebest candy around, especially
for kids named Quinn.

Speaker 1 (35:53):
Quinn and Nico.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
And Nico, kids named Nico, yeah, highland.

Speaker 3 (35:59):
Avenue right.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
Yeah, that's right.
We're going around town toHighland Avenue.

Speaker 3 (36:01):
What about you?

Speaker 1 (36:05):
Where can we find your stuff?

Speaker 3 (36:06):
You can find me at SpearLife on Instagram and, like
I said, I have a thread liststore you can check stuff out at
and that isspearlifethreadlistcom.
And then the new store that I'mgoing to be just me and not
like this thread list thing,which is still not just in

(36:26):
thread list is just SpearLife.
Anything SpearLife you find isme, spearlifeme Okay.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
And they take 50%.
You said yeah, but.
There's other sites that willtake like 20%.

Speaker 3 (36:37):
Yeah, but I think the thing with and I've looked into
a lot of Well, I mean, I'm justlike at the time those websites
that have that accessibility toall these different products
without having an inventory.

Speaker 1 (36:50):
Right, it's print to order.

Speaker 3 (36:51):
Yeah, like if you have a, you get a box of shirts
or like I got a box of all LadySmalls and you just drop 300
bucks and you're like I sold twoof them Right.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
And you're like what?

Speaker 3 (37:01):
So, and then dealing with the shipping and the people
, I've only In the years thatI've done it for about maybe
five or six years, and I thinkI've had like maybe two
complaints, and that was justbecause those people were insane
.

Speaker 1 (37:13):
Right, there's 2% of insane people out there.
That's right.

Speaker 3 (37:17):
They were wrong.
There was nothing wrong.
I was like I don't know it wasmailed later or something.
But yeah, so there's that.
But then, yeah, come by theshow on Friday, tomorrow,
November 3rd, for the RockPapers.
This is extravaganza withmyself and Mr Derek.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
G.
Can we just maybe get one idea,derek?
I know you have a third sectionof your wonderful shop gallery.
Do you have any idea what'sgoing to happen in that third
spot?

Speaker 2 (37:49):
I'm still interviewing candidates for
there.
We had something lined up.
It fell through, so now I getto fill it again, which is
Exciting it is exciting.
Yeah, it's 1600 square feet ofgoodness right there in the
heart of the O'Galley ArtsDistrict with 15,000 cars going
by the two one ways.
So a number of things would becool.

(38:12):
We want something thatcomplements the gallery and
everything but, also that thedistrict needs, so I showed it
to two people today and I'mexcited.
Something good.
Maybe it's your spot.

Speaker 1 (38:24):
Maybe it is Well awesome.
Let's end this by playing RockPaper Scissors.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
Oh, good idea.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
And then we'll see all of you at the show.
If you can't make the openingcome, It'll be all month long.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
From afar.
You'll be able to go to theDerricorps Gallery, Socials, and
you'll get a link to view theartwork as well.
Did we tell you that It'll benot threadless, Not through
threadless.
We'll show all your art throughthe website, so you can shop
from far away.
But definitely come hang outwith us if you can.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
Awesome, alright, rock Paper, scissors or it up.
Who's going to win this one One?

Speaker 2 (39:03):
two, three ready.
One, two, three.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
Oh, rock Paper Scissors shoot.

Speaker 3 (39:09):
See how close we are as people.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
You guys are together again, beautiful metaphor in
there.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
Alright, thank you for coming.
Next time we will talk to LenaLopez and get all her interior
design tips.
We'll see you next time.

Speaker 3 (39:27):
Show me the tips.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
Yeah, bye.

Speaker 3 (39:30):
Thanks everybody.

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