May 15, 2024 • 45 mins
Ever wondered what it's like to merge the rawness of metal with the steady vibes of Brevard? Tanner and Ryan, the metal core rockers, invite us into their world, where the guttural growls meet the ocean's roar. They take us on a journey through their heavy influences, sharing tales of how bands like Bring Me The Horizon and Underoath helped carve their unique sound. But it's not just about the music; these Melbourne rockers also offer up a slice of their lives, from their hydration quirks to the technicalities of perfecting a vocal growl that could shake the sand off any beachsider.
Strap in for a rollercoaster of emotions as Tanner and Ryan open up about the complexities of maintaining a band that feels more like a family. They reflect on their beginnings, the highs and lows of band dynamics, and how personality compatibility is just as crucial as musical synergy. As we navigate the waves of their creative process, we get a glimpse into their recent collaborative approach to songwriting, diving into themes of relationships gone sour and personal turmoil amidst the backdrop of a global pandemic.
But it's not all heavy riffs and heartache; we also explore the balancing act of modern musicianship. From teaching music to composing for video games, and even making Uber Eats deliveries, one band member shares his hustle to keep the dream alive. Even when venturing into side projects like 'Car Crash Victims' and 'Mechanical Canine,' the duo emphasizes the anchor that is their main project, SIKE!. They reveal the secret to their enduring partnership and tease us with a wild concert tale that proves life in a band is anything but predictable. Join us for this no-holds-barred session that's as much about the music as it is about the musicians behind it.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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You can see me do it.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
I've been sipping on this hardcore.
I've got to wet my whistle.
I've got to wet my whistle too.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
I didn't bring anything to wet my whistle.
I'm super unprepared.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Oh no, you're going to get cotton mouth.
Yeah, you'll be known to wet mywhistle.
I'm super unprepared.
Oh no, you're going to getcaught.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Mel yeah, you'll be known as dry your whistle.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Everybody quiet your whistle.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
You want some.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
No, thank you Sure.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
What you don't do chia seeds.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
I've never even seen this, to be honest.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
That's what I said.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
They're like it's like, it's almost like boba in a
way I love boba those chiaseeds are just like slightly
jelly.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Yeah, yeah but it's not like.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
It's not like boba, where it's like, it's
over-encumbersome sometimes.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
I don't know what you're talking about.
I love me some boba I love bobatoo.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Sometimes they're just like overwhelming, just
sometimes.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Not all the time.
When you like, accidentally,like suck one in.
Yeah, you can't do that withthis.
Also, what is in a boba?
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Gotta be that like red number 40 shit Probably
gotta be.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
I will look the other way.
All right, we are here withpsych Tanner and Ryan.
Good to meet both of you.
Oh, do you wanna put yourheadphones on?
Speaker 3 (01:25):
I have headphones.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Oh yeah, they're under you, yeah underneath.
Oh, ryan, you're the um, you'rethe lead singer, yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
And Tanner, you do drums mostly, but you started
telling me about low growls andhigh growls.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Yeah, so not only do I do drums, but I also do all
the backing tracks, obviouslywith Ryan's assistance too,
right, and then I also do lowgrowls, harmonies, and now
easing my way into high growlsso for people that don't know,
you guys are at like a heavymetal band.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Is that how you describe yourselves?
Speaker 2 (02:03):
how would you because ?
There's a tinge of like what isit cuz there is a little.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
It's a little beachy, sometimes it's a little surfy
yeah, a little bit.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
We get that question and we've had that question
since we started like six yearsago, and we never really know
how to answer.
We cop out with we're a rockband or we're hardcore.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Surf core, surf core.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Surf core We've heard like new punk.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Yeah, there's a little punk in there.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
We're a rock band, okay, and we have a lot of
influences and we just makemusic that sounds good.
We don't really care about.
Oh, we're trying to sound likethis or that.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Yeah, I'd say we're just a rock band.
Yeah, yeah, that reallyencompasses it.
What are like?
What are some historical metalbands that you guys grew up
listening to?
Or like that's so easy, what isit?
Speaker 2 (02:59):
um.
For us, I know mutually, isbring me the horizon they play a
lot of influence on our soundand the direction that we enjoy
going into.
Personally I really enjoy underoath.
I like how they incorporatesome of their electronics,
especially in their album eraseme.
It's such a good album thatdiverts from a lot of their main
(03:22):
stuff but goes into a reallyinteresting territory that I've
personally really enjoy.
There's another band called 68,which comes from the guitar
slash singer, josh Scoggin,who's played in other countless
metal bands like the Chariot.
That band's been a super biginfluence on myself.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Those are all of them , literally I say, like every
single one of those bands.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
so I'm curious about this low growl, high growl.
Is that like historically, what?
Like a staple in the genre ofthe music you guys play in?
Yeah, yeah, I would say so can,can you guys each give me a
high growl oh?
Speaker 2 (04:07):
gosh.
Okay, well, the backup from themic a little bit that would be
all right, can you your best?
Yeah, I don't even warmed upfor this, no, I didn't warm up
for this either this is gonna betough do you want to go first?
Okay, I'm trying to find, likethat head space to get into,
(04:27):
because you're practicing how toget into your hide.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
So okay for a high yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
I'm awake.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
It's 10 am it's 10 am and I'll do the ooh, like the
lower growl.
Yeah, that's cool To do a highand I'll do the ooh like the
lower growl.
Yeah, that's cool To do a highone, it would clear this room.
I'm not going to do that to youguys, thank you, my ears
appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Yeah, but that's super cool yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Did you guys grow up in Melbourne?
Yes, yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
I grew up in Palm Bay .
Speaker 1 (05:03):
It's essentially Melbourne.
Yeah, I grew up in Palm Bay.
It's essentially Melbourne.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, brevard.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
But yeah, this area definitely.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Yeah, you guys went to high school here.
Which high school?
Speaker 2 (05:11):
I went to Bayside, I went to O'Galley.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
How was it?
Speaker 2 (05:18):
It's kind of like just went through it, Nothing
really too special.
I would say no.
No how far removed are you fromthose years?
Oh my God, my graduation waseight years ago.
Eight, oh my gosh, mine wasnine.
Wow.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Okay, so pretty far removed.
Yeah, when did you guys meet?
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Was it in high school or after it was?
In high school, I had justgraduated and you?
I was about to.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
You know you were about to go into your senior
year when we met yeah, where'dyou guys meet?
We were actually.
You were in a band already yeahand their guitarist sucked and
they kicked him out.
And then um, through mutualfriends that we'd had, they were
like, oh, this guy ryanactually the old guitarist was
(06:13):
also named ryan.
They were like you should getthis guy in.
Um and tanner was in that bandand I went to pick him up for a
practice one day and we hadnever met in person before, but
we were in the same band and Ipicked him up and like
immediately, we just likestarted talking, like we've
known each other for years and,oh cool, ever since then we've
been in multiple bands togetherbefore psych.
(06:35):
Oh, really yeah, this was like2015, I think yeah, it was 2015
and then we started severalbands.
None of them really worked, andthen we we started Psych in the
summer of 2018.
So we're coming up on six years.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
I think of Psych.
Yeah, six years in June.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
What do you think makes this one work?
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Less people, less people, oh, 100%.
So what?
Speaker 1 (06:56):
gets you kicked out of a band.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
So I've never been kicked out.
I've only ever stayed until thebitter ends of every single one
or left on my own terms, um,but what gets you kicked out of
a band is um consistency of notbeing consistent, yes, um.
Not showing up, not showingwell.
Not only just not showing up,but not molding well with
(07:25):
everybody else ego yeah, itcould be ego and it could just
straight up be just personality.
Sometimes it just doesn't fit.
Um, sometimes people can workthrough that and settle their
differences and being like, ohyeah, I'm just working with this
person but, um, for ryan and Iit's very important that we mesh
well together.
If either of us are having abad day, we let each other know
(07:48):
and we work through it together.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Oh nice.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
If we ever have any differences, we mediate it, we
come to a nice compromise andwith other people who we have
had, that's been a verydifficult thing to work through.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
With us.
It keeps it simple, so have hadmeaning like your past bands
there's no room for a third or afourth in this psych yeah,
we've considered it at one pointbut, that was quickly, uh,
pushed under, we um, we like thedynamic of us yeah, yeah
Speaker 3 (08:23):
and we've had many people over the years be like oh
, do you guys need a bassist?
Very, very, very talentedpeople.
And we were always like, no,even if they're very talented
people.
It's the dynamic of how thisworks and has been working for
so long.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
I don't want to ruin that it's been going so well for
so long.
Good, good, it's like bringinga third into the bedroom it
might fuck everything up, rightum, who does like the writing of
the lyrics?
It's collaboration or mainlyyou, ryan?
Speaker 3 (08:57):
for years it's been me primarily, but recently it's
been a little bit morecollaboration and why is that?
Um, why is, do you mean like,why is there more collaboration?
Speaker 1 (09:08):
yeah, well, yeah, why did you sort of open up that?
Speaker 3 (09:12):
I'm kind of a megalomaniac when it comes to
creativity and I recognize that,and tanner has increasingly
been so much.
He's always been a very, veryimpressive musician, but he's
just been opening up so muchmore even than he already was,
and as a as a vocalist, as alyricist, as a songwriter and I
(09:34):
it just felt like it was timeyeah and there's one song we
just recently wrote that he justwrote all the lyrics for, like
oh, really, yeah, usually foryou.
Yeah, thank you yeah go tannerwe've always had the.
We write the music first andthen like I'll really just mess
with the lyrics alone for a longtime, and I did that for this
song.
And then tanner hit me up.
(09:54):
He's like hey, I got, I gotlyrics for the song.
I was like what, like all ofthem?
And he sent it to me and I hadlyrics and I was like delete
trash, wow, and they're great.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
They're really, really good what do you guys
usually sing about?
Speaker 3 (10:08):
a lot of the subject matter is like soured
relationships, whether it'sromantic or personal, or
betrayal is a huge theme throughour lyrical content um a lot of
just like things that happen tous yeah like, like the bad
things, that really happen to usis like our therapy cathartic
way of getting it like workedout which has always actually
felt amazing yeah, yeah, so it'sbeyond like relationships, yeah
(10:31):
yeah, it's also like um, justlike also life situations, you
know um can you give me anexample?
oh man yeah, uh, like our songScratching my Eyes Out.
I wrote that around the timeCOVID started happening and
everyone was inside and everyonewas going stir crazy and that
(10:52):
was about just like kind oflosing my mind, like I couldn't
really work that much.
I was like not seeing a lot ofpeople.
I lost like a significantamount of weight.
It was a crazy time and youwent crazy and that song was
just about like kind of justbeing like like low-key losing
it yeah, and feeling like I'mslipping.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
I'm slipping a lot.
I'm not doing good.
That's cool.
What about girls?
Are there girls in your livesright now?
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Okay.
But, it's new.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
No.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
It's old.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Yes, that's good.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Yes, okay.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
It's been off and on thing for close to like a year
and a half now, okay, yeah, it'sgood.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
It's good.
Have you written anything aboutthis particular person?
Speaker 3 (11:44):
No, no, no.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
No, no, you think you will in the future.
Maybe Does she want you to.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
I'd have to ask.
I would have to ask.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
What about you, Tanner?
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Not in particular.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Not in particular.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Right now, I mean, I'm personally taking it easy on
my strides in life.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
In terms of the writing about people.
That's a very good point.
I try to make it a point not towrite about people that I know.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
It can get ugly right .
Speaker 2 (12:15):
It can yeah, Especially if you write like a
big love song about somebody andthey're like oh, my God, you
mean so much to me.
The world.
And then like, if things split,then you're like ooh, let's
record it.
Oh, my god you mean so much tome the world and then like, if
things split, then you're likeoh, that's recorded.
Now I have this song about thisperson that I don't quite feel
that way, yeah, but the samealso goes for the other way
around.
About a song about hatingsomebody, yeah, um, in
(12:37):
particular like um, because ifthat, if you come around to
being like you know what, Iactually still like this person
regardless of everything.
I mean that's also like a caseby case thing, yeah, but if it's
like specifically, maybe aboutyou know if something has turned
like sour in a relationship,and then you're like, oh man,
(12:57):
this sucks.
And then you're like you know,I actually still kind of care
for this person.
It's just the situation.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
You don't want to diss them.
Yeah, exactly, exactly doesn'tit feel good, though sometimes
like you guys like scream thingsout loud yeah it's cathartic,
it helps, but you're neveraiming that energy at a
particular person most of thetime case by right.
Watch out people.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Case by case.
I've got a couple of disstracks.
Yeah, in fact I'd say a lot ofthem are diss tracks actually.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Oh, my God.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
But, for a long, long time ago.
A lot of these songs are old,about people I haven't seen in
years.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Yeah, so it's safe.
It's safe, yes, yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
I won't do it if someone's currently in my life
or it's just like we're.
We're mad at each other at themoment.
Yeah, it's like door shut.
Nails are in the coffin Likewe're done.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
That's that's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
OK.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Better words than me I'm still just waking up.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Got it together.
So yeah, you're still waking up.
What do you guys do when youknow?
Speaker 2 (14:04):
oh yeah, you go first on this one jobs or jobs
hobbies outside of the musicI've got uh.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
I right now I'm just uh in school.
Um, I have a job.
I just drive for the papajohn's, which is pretty good
money actually, and then whenI'm not doing that, it's
literally like spending timewith the female companion we've
referenced before, or, um,spending time with my son oh,
you have a son I do yeah wow,how old is he he just turned two
(14:36):
and a half oh you gotta lovethat age it's it's great yeah he
will not stop talking.
Yes, and they won't they't.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
I have an eight-year-old and I have to
like.
I used to put like earbuds inbecause it was overwhelming to
the senses.
Oh my God.
But I didn't want to be mean,so I'll be like let me just have
a little peace for 30 minutesand then.
I'll take him out and it'llfeel better.
Yeah, do you live with your sonor do you share him?
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Split, it'll feel better.
Yeah, do you live with your sonor do you share him Split?
Yeah, I get him like the secondhalf of the week, that's nice,
yeah.
Yeah, a little break in between, it's very nice.
Yeah, that's cool.
When I'm with him, I love himso much.
And then, like by the last day,I'm like all right.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Time.
You've been saying likespider-man halloween.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
For like three days now I've watched this episode 30
times.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Yeah, it's good, but you know, yeah, yeah can we
watch puppy dog pals orsomething?
Switch it up a bit, yeah, um,do you guys have roommates?
You guys live alone.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
I I live in my uh grandparents house with my
brother, sister-in-law and theirtwo kids oh, wow, yeah, you
have.
You have some kids in your lifetoo oh, I also have my own
daughter too, you do yes, oh mygod how's that?
Speaker 1 (15:52):
how is she?
Speaker 2 (15:52):
she's wonderful yeah, she's beautiful, she's how old
is she.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
She's a year old okay , and a couple months yeah yeah,
we're in the early stages um itgets easier, guys, all right I
needed that yeah it has it hasfrom the, from the very early
age.
Yes, yeah, yeah, I can feelit's getting well, you it goes
like this right you know, themore they grow, you know you can
(16:19):
kind of stop holding their handand, uh, communicate better and
um, crying might stop yeah, forthe most part it has.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Yeah, yeah.
Then he'll like get on top of atable and fall and be like I'm
like are you okay?
Speaker 1 (16:34):
and he's like yeah, he's still crying I'm like all
right, buddy, you got it.
Are you guys seeing anymusically inclined talents?
I mean they're really young,but do you guys like put a drum
set in front of them or anything?
Speaker 2 (16:51):
My daughter really, really loves the wiggles, so I
think there's some potentialthere.
There you go.
She's already wiggling at likea year old.
So you know the pipeline ofwiggling to musician is it's
such a strong pipeline.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Yeah, it's like a direct like yeah, 80 mile per
hour bright line right there.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
yeah the bright line hit somebody right a family of
five yeah that keeps hittingpeople yeah, I mean, like it's
hungry, need souls, do you?
Guys follow that that accounton Instagram about it.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
There's an account on Instagram.
Yeah, that's a little toomorbid call it.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Yeah, murder train.
He's hungry.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Yeah, like every time I see it I just go like, oh,
there it goes, to get anotherfamily of five like yeah, it's
like on a weekly basis yeah,please I think so.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
I mean, like I'm not totally exaggerating, I mean, no
, I think you're right.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
I think you're 100 right.
It's like a new problem.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
It just keeps hitting people it's like over 100
people, since people try to gothrough it really fast well, I I
think that's a problem forFlorida.
Yeah, yeah, definitely a lot ofFlorida men out there.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Not much more anymore .
I guess About 100 less About134 less.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
You got the number.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Last time I checked Statistics on the stat.
All right.
So both of you are young dads.
That's crazy to me.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
DILFs if you will.
You could call us dad rock ifyou'd want.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
DILFs.
What do you do as a job?
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Oh God.
So I say that in a loving way,because I like to over encumber
myself with just a bunch ofdifferent things, so I do like
Uber Eats deliveries at night.
During the day, I give musiclessons over at Music and Arts
(19:00):
in development with a newproject called Mosaic Music,
which is a small company focusedon giving lessons to every
individual, no matter skill setor age range, while also
planning to put on events andspecial occasions that are all
related to music.
(19:20):
Um, and then, on my own accord,I also write video game music
in my free time.
get out yeah, so I keep myselfbusy.
Oh, and then I also performwith the space coast symphony
orchestra oh damn busy boy overhere, absolutely busy wow.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
So when you you write stuff for video games, how do
you just put it up on like ahosting site and people will
pick.
I want that one in that one.
How does?
Speaker 2 (19:51):
that work.
I usually get people come to me, usually with my online
presence, where I like onTwitter or if you want to call
it X.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
I don't, nobody calls it it.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
X.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
That was such a decision what's your handle, so
people can find you?
Speaker 2 (20:08):
it is r-u-k-y, d-e-e-r, and if you find me
there you can contact me forvideo game music I've composed
for specifically.
Right now I work with Sky HourWorks.
We made games such as how Exorathe Skies Abound, a game called
(20:29):
A Nightmare's Trip, some gamejams like Pat Cat, and then also
another one called Space MechPilot.
There's a couple other gamesthat we have in the works.
And then I'm also working withanother studio right now, which
with a in development game thatI don't know if I can say too
much about okay um, but allthese are relatively small
companies, um nothing big orcrazy but you've really tapped
(20:53):
into the different avenues likea musician can take.
Yeah, absolutely, that'simpressive other than psych and
my video game music and workingwith the orchestra.
I also have two of my ownprojects called car crash
victims, which is a emo shoegazepost-rock band, and another one
called mechanical canine, whichis a jungle hyper pop, um,
(21:17):
electronic crazy project andthese are all they're.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
They're side bands and ryan, you're cool with that.
I just have this.
This is it.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
I wasn't another band a little bit ago for a little
bit, but it's just like.
Uh, I actually was kicked outof that band yeah, what'd you do
?
I didn't show up, I guess.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
Which is I love those guys.
But that's not true.
No, there's weird stuff behindthe scenes with a guitarist yeah
, girl drama.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
But that band has they kicked me out, and then
they immediately stopped doingthings.
Playing, oh, that sucks For nothaving enough time.
Hmm, hmm, we all don't haveenough time.
Yeah, no one does um.
But now, uh, aside from that, Imean you had also had other
side projects before your ummechanical canine and car crash
(22:19):
tanner was a man called ectogasmyears ago yeah um, so I've been
, I've been cool with the sidepieces for a while.
I'm just like you know.
We'll keep this an openrelationship.
Just you know, as long as youcome home to daddy, that's all I
care about, so I have my littleside piece action with
Underbite and honestly, we'vejust been doing this together
(22:40):
for so long.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Yeah, it's easy.
Yeah, psych is home base.
Yeah, psych's home base, psychis home base.
It's main priority for me.
All the other side projects Ido are just to get that ADHD
brain part of me out, like Ineed to work on this.
But this doesn't apply to psych, so I'm going to go off and do
my own thing with it, just so Ican get it out of my system.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Yeah, I hear you.
I think I'm like that too.
I have like 15 projects andit's like 15 minutes at a time.
Then I lose interest and I haveto go to the next one.
Oh yeah, absolutely Do you guysthink you guys are like a
yin-yang, like opposites.
Oh yeah, yes, a thousandpercent A thousand percent we
have.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
We have nothing in common.
This is the one thing we havein common.
But I also feel like wewouldn't have worked if we were
much more similar and, like weknow when, to not be around each
other too much, which I feellike is the problem with almost
(23:40):
all band personal romanticrelationships like, at least in
my personal experience, justspending too much time yeah like
we come to practice, we tear itup, we have our shows, we go
crazy and then we're like allright, we'll see you the next
practice.
And that's been the vibe fornine years.
Yeah, we're still writing,playing like recording.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
No signs of slowing down.
So, yeah, your concertsprobably get really intense.
Yeah, what is the craziestthing that has happened during a
concert.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Well, funny enough.
You say this Ryan, take it over.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
The other night.
The other night, the othernight we were playing the Stamp
at Vero.
I love the Stamp.
Such a good venue.
It's a violent little venue.
It's a crappy little dive bar.
I say with love and you getlike 30 to 40 people in there
and it's the most violent thingyou've ever seen.
People are like sitting on thebar.
(24:45):
Dudes are just like like, didyou see the dude do the backflip
?
Speaker 2 (24:48):
no, I didn't.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Yeah, he backed almost into you, oh my god, like
in the pit.
What is the age range here, uh?
Speaker 3 (24:54):
anywhere from like early 20s to like 40s probably
actually there was a there wasan older man in a wheelchair yes
uh, next to the side of the pit, that was pretty cool yeah, but
um, I talked to him after theshow.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
He was like yeah, people were trying to protect me
.
Do they not see all thesetattoos on my arms I got myself
where do you see yourself in 40years?
Speaker 3 (25:12):
yeah, there but it was towards the end of our set
and you know there's moshinggoing on, it's not abnormal.
And then it got a littleintense and two dudes started
swinging on each other like realhard like linebacker, looking
like six, two, six, three dudes,and I was like, hey, can you
stop, can you not do?
Speaker 1 (25:32):
that?
Do you say that in themicrophone?
Speaker 3 (25:33):
oh, yeah, this is the only time I would have, because
any other time of moshing I'mnot gonna stop that yeah, that's
awesome yeah but like I, I sawlike several fists flying.
It was like four or five peoplegot involved and I was like all
right, you, we're not going todo that like this is now hurting
the show, please.
I know there's probably othermetal bands.
They're like yeah there's you,awesome yeah like it's cool
(25:55):
until a point, but other peoplethere that aren't feeling that
that that kills the show so I, I.
It was towards the end of thesong so I didn't have to stop,
but we didn't continue the setuntil it finished.
I was like all right, figurethis out, like not at my show,
someone go over there.
Someone go over there.
Figure it out.
Or don't come back, or we'llstop playing yeah like we only
(26:17):
had one song left.
Anyway, right, but um yeah, no,the fist fight.
That was pretty cool hasanybody like?
Speaker 1 (26:23):
have you needed to call an ambulance or anything?
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Not, yet Not yet.
There was another show weplayed in Vero years ago where
we played similar like smallshow but violent show and
afterwards a girl walked up tome with just blood running out
of her nose and she was likethat show was awesome.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
I had such a good time.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
I'm like, are you okay Do?
You know what's going on andshe's like yes, I do.
I got hit like the beginning ofthe set.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Oh my gosh, take an Advil or something.
Totally.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Do you guys?
Speaker 1 (26:54):
have like like stage five clingers, like fans that
are just it's an old reference.
Yeah, i'm'm sorry, I just wentno, it was um, it was uh.
No, oh, was it I was thinkingit was um wayne.
(27:16):
Uh, wayne's world.
Right, that's the original.
Am I wrong?
Yeah, there, yeah, have youguys seen Wayne's World?
Speaker 2 (27:25):
It's been a while since I've seen it.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Okay, well, yeah, they had this fan.
That was crazy.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Oh, a crazed fan.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Crazed fan Girl in particular.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Hmm, crazed Not exactly so maybe there's a stage
one.
Yeah, yeah, group.
You guys have group thing.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Three or four.
Yeah, group, you guys havegroupies.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
No, we don't.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
You guys don't see like the same faces.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
I mean.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Ryan does.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Do you no, no, no.
We see some repeat faces.
Yes, we do, and it's been sixyears, Like we've seen some
repeat people that areinterested Over it's been six
years, like we've seen somerepeat people that are
interested over time gone away.
I mean, but no, for this willgo public.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
No, no so nobody's ever like giving you their phone
number after the show oranything one time somebody did
for me yeah that was awkward umyou didn't call
Speaker 2 (28:19):
them.
No, uh, they're like, hey, um,can my friend give me?
Oh my God, I can't speak.
They were like, hey, can youlike give me your number?
And I was like at first I waslike, oh my gosh, they're being
really friendly.
And then it kicked in on me andI was like at the time I was
like I'm in a relationship, I'msorry, no.
At the time I was like I'm in arelationship, I'm sorry, no.
(28:43):
And still thinking about it now, I probably wouldn't, just
because I feel like there's aweird air about that.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Right, like somebody like coming to the show and
being like hey, but even if theywere super cute, does that not
matter?
Speaker 2 (28:58):
I think that still would waver on me.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Really.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
I'd have to give it some time to think about it.
Yeah, because I don't know it.
If somebody's like coming tothe show to see you and enjoy
you and a somehow relationshipforms from that, to me, it feels
a little awkward because it'slike you're being idolized, yeah
and I feel like that wouldcontinue through like a
(29:23):
non-performative setting yeah,where it's like, that's wise
yeah so it's like, if I likewake up the next morning and I'm
just doing my daily thing ofbeing myself, and they're still
like starry-eyed yeah then itkind of well, where do you guys
meet girls, then, or significantothers?
Speaker 3 (29:41):
I will say I do kind of have to poke in.
I was like, oh no, not really.
I met my baby mama at a psychshow.
Yeah, the mother of my child,she came to a psych show.
Did she pass you the number, orhow did that go?
Speaker 1 (29:55):
We were both dating people at the time, oh man.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
We hated those people .
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
But we're not going to mess around.
But it started just not numbers, but we're not, you know, going
to mess around.
But I started just not numbers,but like.
Following on like Instagram orSnapchat.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
That's like the in for I feel like people.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
DMs, it is DMs.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
yeah, dms are the ins , or even just like slightly
over time, like follow, and thenlike here, like there, like a
story there, I'll swipe up onthis here and then, before you
know it, you have like a two anda half year old with them yeah,
that's actually also thesimilar story with me on how my
daughter came to be.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Um, it was, they were .
They were really good with it,they were really sneaky.
Um, she came to a show where Iwasn't even doing a psych show.
I was actually like gueststarring on um one of my buddy
sets and playing synthesizer forthem.
And she came to the show andhad been watching Psych for a
(30:50):
hot minute and they postedsomething up on Facebook and I
saw it and I was like, oh mygosh, we talked about it.
And then they messaged me andthey were like, so what was that
instrument?
You were playing up there, damnwell, knowing exactly what that
instrument was, and they got meon the gear talk and we started
(31:12):
a long conversation and then,next thing, you know it, boom
yeah, there's a daughter.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Yeah, do you guys have good relationships with
them, though?
Speaker 2 (31:20):
yeah, that's good, yeah, yeah, yeah good yeah, you
got to right, yeah you have togotta make it work.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
They're great moms yeah, they're great moms shout
out to alexa mckenzie they're,they're incredible mothers yeah,
I couldn't.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
I could not have asked for a better mother yeah,
for my child ditto.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Do you guys?
Do they still come to the shows?
Speaker 3 (31:39):
uh no mckenzie does every now and then.
That's good yeah yeah,babysitter she did bring tyler
uh to a psych show.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Uh, my son oh, really yeah back in october did you
have to wear headphones?
Speaker 3 (31:53):
uh no, it was at the ogali civic center.
Did he wear headphones?
Speaker 2 (31:56):
I don't remember I think he did, he might have.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
He might have worn headphones.
Yeah, he was.
It's actually the day before heturned two.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
We all sang happy birthday.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
It was the coolest set we've ever played.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
It was cool.
We're all cool.
Everybody still loves eachother.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Good, good, good.
I want to play a game with youguys as you know or may not know
, Nyla Lois was the one whonominated you guys to be on the
show.
We're going to play a littlegame called Nyla Wants to Know.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Oh, let's do it.
Let's do it.
Come on, here, we go, all right.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
There's a few questions for you, all right.
What style of music did youstart playing at first?
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Oh, that's a good question.
That is yeah.
How would we describe it?
Speaker 3 (32:46):
like we as a band or we personally like, why not both
?
Both okay, so both.
I first started playing inbands, playing like just covers,
like radio rock, like foodfighters or creed um here, but
um we, I'd say we startedplaying like almost like kind of
indie alternative, like grungy.
(33:07):
When we started yeah, like Iwas listening to a lot of
strokes, and like Guns N' Roses,like pad rock yeah, what would
you say?
Speaker 2 (33:18):
um, personally first starting out, yeah, I was doing
a lot of like indie rock stufftoo, um, and also dabbling in
like emo.
I was doing like my own drumcovers in my garage with like a
camera set up.
Um, those are hidden somewherein the vault, um, uh, but yeah,
for psych.
Starting out it was.
(33:39):
But yeah, for Psych startingout it was very, I would say,
almost like experimental rock ina way.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Because we had.
I was playing synthesizers withmy left hand and drums with my
right hand.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Time for ADD.
Yeah, seriously, the ADHD wascrazy.
It still is, but that was theundiagnosed period.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
It's your superpower.
It really is.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
It really comes in handy.
In other days it is sodetrimental.
But yeah, at first it was likeelectronic indie post-grunge,
like post grunge, and now it'sdefinitely that weird um rock,
(34:30):
electronic, hardcore, metalcore.
Every other core it's just,it's just us yeah it's hard to
put a label on it.
If you want to put an umbrellaterm, it's rock, but if you want
to get into specifics, we haveno idea, dad core, dad core.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
What are your top three favorite bands currently?
I know we talked about a littlebit like influenced, but
currently.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
Yeah, oh man, I.
I was about to say I gotta pullup my spotify for this one.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
I give you one.
I'm always listening to um thepop punk band the story, so they
were huge when I was in highschool and I still love them.
A lot of like my lyrical things.
I went to Instagram.
What am I doing?
Speaker 1 (35:11):
That's not even close .
Checking your DM Just gottacheck them.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
It's all men.
Top three current favoriteartists.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
I'm going through a big Aliceice in chain space okay
um, and I'm going back to uhtitle fight I'm getting into
title no, we're so over, yeahtitle fight.
Yeah, they were like a 2010s,like emo hardcore band, um, and
I all like music snob friends.
I have always been like yeahtitle fight, title fight, and
(35:43):
I've never listened to them toomuch, but now they got you.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
They're so good.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
This is going to be a very eclectic three that.
I have Okay what you got Firstone is Scuttlefuzz.
They're a very indie electronicbedroom pop band.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
I like that name.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
It's such a good name Scuttlefuzz is cool.
Scuttlefuzz is really cool.
Um, there's a local band calledfuneral homes.
They're a shoegaze band.
Um, super good and um, I think.
Lastly, for top three recently,keonashi ke yeah.
(36:24):
Keio Nashi.
Japanese no, they are a.
They are like a slam hardcoreband and the vocalist has some
really wild high-pitched screamsthat you won't find anywhere
else but they're very.
At first everybody's a littlebit taken aback by the band
(36:47):
because the vocals reallyoff-put.
But once you get into thelyrics and meanings and like
really digging, like what it'sall about and if you can get
past that first initial phase oflike culture shock almost yeah
then you can really enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
It's a really slam a band interesting yeah, oh cool,
all right, nyla wants to knowhow old were you when you
learned how to play your musicor your instruments oh god like
11 11.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
Yeah, yeah, I got into guitar hero at first is
that how it happened?
yeah, yeah, there's a kid on mystreet when I was growing up.
He was like the rich kid, um,and he always had cool stuff on
christmas.
So, like christmas morning Iopened my things and I was like
this sucks.
And then I went to raymond'shouse and he got guitar hero and
I was like whoa, this is crazy.
(37:36):
And um, I got really, reallygood at that.
And then I was like, can I havea guitar?
Can I have a guitar?
My dad was like no, and I keptbothering him and he bought me
like a Fender star caster andthat was yeah, I was like 10, 10
or 11, sucked at it for like along time.
I still suck at it.
It's been 17 years.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
You're good enough, right?
Speaker 3 (38:00):
Yeah, yeah, good enough, I'm good enough to trick
people that don't know how toplay it.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
That's funny.
What about you?
Speaker 2 (38:05):
I follow the same exact pipeline, but with a
little bit of alteration inthere.
I started out Guitar Hero 3 onthe Wii, yes, which sucked
because the DLC was so limited.
I think it only came with thepre-built in-game DLC and not
like any additional ones you canget from the store so it's like
(38:26):
I would later go on YouTube andbe like, how are people playing
these songs?
like, I don't have these songs.
So after Guitar Hero 3, my, Ifeel like my parents knew that I
was very musically inclined, soduring one Christmas they
bought me Rock Band 1 and then,yeah, I went from guitar
immediately to drums and that'sall I would play is.
(38:47):
I would just keep playing thedrums and then, as the years
went on, like Rock Band 3 cameout and they got the cymbal
attachments with it, my parentsbought me like an upgraded Rock
Band foot pedal and I was soupedup with that kit.
Um, and the the great thingabout rock band is actually a
lot like I would say like 90 ofthe notes are pretty accurate to
(39:12):
an actual drum set they evenhave like so it translates well,
it translates very well,interesting there's even some
individuals who have made rockband guitar hero s games on the
computer with custom songs andmaps, and you can plug in, like
your rock band and guitar herocontrollers into those onto your
(39:34):
computer and still keeplearning that's so cool.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
I'm trying to get my daughter to appreciate music,
and you know like it's valuableto know an instrument, so I'm
taking this.
I remember playing too, and Ifeel like a fucking rock star.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
So, it's a good feeling.
It's electrifying.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
Yes, it really is I'm going to.
That's what we're doing thissummer Nice.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Thank you, boys, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
All we're doing this summer.
Nice, thank you boys,absolutely.
Uh, all right, nyla wants toknow what's the best advice you
have for young musicians,besides this rock band theory
that we've made up here thatrock band theory is a very good
one?
Yeah, I think so too.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
Just play, yeah, just play and suck, just be really
bad and just.
But don't stop, just keep going, suck and suck, and suck and
suck and suck, and then one, andthen one day you just won't.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
If you keep doing it, you will have to get better at
some point.
We've bombed a millionbajillion times over the course
of our entire music life.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
We've had a saying now in psych is like if a show
doesn't go wrong, it wasn't apsych show.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
No, yeah, we'll have technical problems every single
show, really yeah, every singleshow, but we've learned to
navigate that and honestly kindof make it work for us and like
make it light, and then when wego back and it feels like kind
of even better because it's like, oh yeah, like you know, this
can suck but, now we jumped backon.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
So yeah, just keep playing just keep playing, just
keep playing, keep playing liveOkay, playing in front of people
is a real fight or flight.
Speaker 3 (41:05):
You can be really good or really probably really
bad at first.
But you'll know how to.
You'll feel the I suck and I'mnot doing well and that's a bad
feeling.
And you'll immediately be like,ah, how do I get this better?
Speaker 1 (41:26):
And you'll be analytical about it and you'll
figure it out and the next timeyou suck it won't.
It won't hurt as bad, yeah no,sting is bad.
Speaker 3 (41:30):
Yeah, very good all right.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
One more question from miss nyla when's your next?
Speaker 3 (41:31):
gig.
Ah, oh, we just had our lastone scheduled.
Yeah, you guys just played, huh, what about the mexican?
Speaker 2 (41:36):
restaurant are we?
Doing that I think that's stillin works.
I got to hit back up on that.
But yeah, I think we're goingto be playing a very small
Mexican restaurant venue here inthe future.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
Yeah, goodness.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
At first, when I got that message, I was like yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:55):
What yeah?
Speaker 2 (41:58):
I was like I don't think there's a more perfect
venue for psych than a smallmexican restaurant hosting us.
I feel like that fits our vibeimmensely that's super cool.
Speaker 1 (42:09):
Well, let us know, tell us how we can um get in
touch or like be up to date withyour happenings yeah, uh, we
have social media.
Speaker 3 (42:21):
Um we only facebook.
We have facebook.
We have, uh, we're mostlyactive on instagram okay, to be
honest I think we have a twitter.
We do that thing's been active,but yeah, don't go there okay,
so instagram, what's your handle?
Uh, psych s-i-k-e underscoref-l.
Speaker 1 (42:38):
That's it nice, nice, any parting words, boys.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
Thank you so much for having us.
Speaker 1 (42:44):
Thank you for coming.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
It was a joy letting us indulge in ourselves.
We don't get interviewed toooften, so it's always nice to
come up and help tell the worldabout what we are, what we do,
what it is, what it do.
Speaker 1 (42:58):
Absolutely.
It was a pleasure to meet bothof you.
You guys are awesome.
Oh yeah, what it is, what it do, it was a pleasure to meet both
of you.
You guys are awesome.
Oh yeah, you guys want tonominate someone.
I'd sit in your chairs.
Speaker 2 (43:06):
Who do you want to nominate?
Because I have somebody I wantto nominate, you do yeah.
Go for it.
I want to nominate fields ofSaturn.
Speaker 3 (43:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
I feel like they've been one of the most
long-standing bands within ourhistory of Brevard and I would
love to hear their brains beingpicked.
Speaker 3 (43:26):
Would love to love to see fields up here, cool there
and their lead singer booked thefirst psych show yeah, ever oh,
really yeah back in, like 2018people they're very fine.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
Yeah, yeah, I got a sweet guy.
Speaker 1 (43:41):
Yeah, love Casey all right, casey, you've been
nominated.
Speaker 3 (43:44):
I probably will nominate Anthony Soland.
He is the guy from standardcollective singer of easy Uzi's
(44:06):
beautiful we'd love to get himin.
He's a great dude.
He's been in the scene forever.
Standard used to be in the mall.
Now it's in O'Galley, yeah, andI'm literally.
There's a standard shirt, thisis a standard hat.
He's a great guy.
He's a hell of a singer andyeah, and he's got major roots
here yeah back in the groovetube days groove tube.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
Oh, you guys don't know about the groove tube.
Speaker 3 (44:28):
No, we're old jesse before standard collective bs
before psych anthony's alwaysbeen the nicest dude and his
band band's been great and EasyUzis was one of the first big
shows we ever played at the nowdefunct Open.
Mike's rest in peace.
I think Mike the bassist saw usand was like oh, y'all got to
(44:50):
open for Easy Uzis and I waslike okay, and yeah, it was the
first show we played to like 80or something people and they've
always been really nice, reallysupportive.
Anthony's a good dude.
Speaker 1 (44:58):
All right, cool, anthony, get your butt in here,
mike says hello, I was therebefore today.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
I'm like, yeah, we have a psychic.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
He's like oh, yeah, I told those guys.
I sent Mike what's up.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
Mike I love Mike.
Every time I walk intoApocalypse he's like I thought I
kicked you guys all out.
Speaker 3 (45:16):
He's hilarious rid of us.
Speaker 1 (45:17):
Yeah, all right, cool .
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You can see me do it.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
I've been sipping on this hardcore.
I've got to wet my whistle.
I've got to wet my whistle too.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
I didn't bring anything to wet my whistle.
I'm super unprepared.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Oh no, you're going to get cotton mouth.
Yeah, you'll be known to wet mywhistle.
I'm super unprepared.
Oh no, you're going to getcaught.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Mel yeah, you'll be known as dry your whistle.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Everybody quiet your whistle.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
You want some.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
No, thank you Sure.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
What you don't do chia seeds.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
I've never even seen this, to be honest.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
That's what I said.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
They're like it's like, it's almost like boba in a
way I love boba those chiaseeds are just like slightly
jelly.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Yeah, yeah but it's not like.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
It's not like boba, where it's like, it's
over-encumbersome sometimes.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
I don't know what you're talking about.
I love me some boba I love bobatoo.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Sometimes they're just like overwhelming, just
sometimes.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Not all the time.
When you like, accidentally,like suck one in.
Yeah, you can't do that withthis.
Also, what is in a boba?
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Gotta be that like red number 40 shit Probably
gotta be.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
I will look the other way.
All right, we are here withpsych Tanner and Ryan.
Good to meet both of you.
Oh, do you wanna put yourheadphones on?
Speaker 3 (01:25):
I have headphones.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Oh yeah, they're under you, yeah underneath.
Oh, ryan, you're the um, you'rethe lead singer, yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
And Tanner, you do drums mostly, but you started
telling me about low growls andhigh growls.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Yeah, so not only do I do drums, but I also do all
the backing tracks, obviouslywith Ryan's assistance too,
right, and then I also do lowgrowls, harmonies, and now
easing my way into high growlsso for people that don't know,
you guys are at like a heavymetal band.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Is that how you describe yourselves?
Speaker 2 (02:03):
how would you because ?
There's a tinge of like what isit cuz there is a little.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
It's a little beachy, sometimes it's a little surfy
yeah, a little bit.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
We get that question and we've had that question
since we started like six yearsago, and we never really know
how to answer.
We cop out with we're a rockband or we're hardcore.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Surf core, surf core.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Surf core We've heard like new punk.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Yeah, there's a little punk in there.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
We're a rock band, okay, and we have a lot of
influences and we just makemusic that sounds good.
We don't really care about.
Oh, we're trying to sound likethis or that.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Yeah, I'd say we're just a rock band.
Yeah, yeah, that reallyencompasses it.
What are like?
What are some historical metalbands that you guys grew up
listening to?
Or like that's so easy, what isit?
Speaker 2 (02:59):
um.
For us, I know mutually, isbring me the horizon they play a
lot of influence on our soundand the direction that we enjoy
going into.
Personally I really enjoy underoath.
I like how they incorporatesome of their electronics,
especially in their album eraseme.
It's such a good album thatdiverts from a lot of their main
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stuff but goes into a reallyinteresting territory that I've
personally really enjoy.
There's another band called 68,which comes from the guitar
slash singer, josh Scoggin,who's played in other countless
metal bands like the Chariot.
That band's been a super biginfluence on myself.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Those are all of them , literally I say, like every
single one of those bands.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
so I'm curious about this low growl, high growl.
Is that like historically, what?
Like a staple in the genre ofthe music you guys play in?
Yeah, yeah, I would say so can,can you guys each give me a
high growl oh?
Speaker 2 (04:07):
gosh.
Okay, well, the backup from themic a little bit that would be
all right, can you your best?
Yeah, I don't even warmed upfor this, no, I didn't warm up
for this either this is gonna betough do you want to go first?
Okay, I'm trying to find, likethat head space to get into,
(04:27):
because you're practicing how toget into your hide.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
So okay for a high yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
I'm awake.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
It's 10 am it's 10 am and I'll do the ooh, like the
lower growl.
Yeah, that's cool To do a highand I'll do the ooh like the
lower growl.
Yeah, that's cool To do a highone, it would clear this room.
I'm not going to do that to youguys, thank you, my ears
appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Yeah, but that's super cool yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Did you guys grow up in Melbourne?
Yes, yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
I grew up in Palm Bay .
Speaker 1 (05:03):
It's essentially Melbourne.
Yeah, I grew up in Palm Bay.
It's essentially Melbourne.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, brevard.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
But yeah, this area definitely.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Yeah, you guys went to high school here.
Which high school?
Speaker 2 (05:11):
I went to Bayside, I went to O'Galley.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
How was it?
Speaker 2 (05:18):
It's kind of like just went through it, Nothing
really too special.
I would say no.
No how far removed are you fromthose years?
Oh my God, my graduation waseight years ago.
Eight, oh my gosh, mine wasnine.
Wow.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Okay, so pretty far removed.
Yeah, when did you guys meet?
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Was it in high school or after it was?
In high school, I had justgraduated and you?
I was about to.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
You know you were about to go into your senior
year when we met yeah, where'dyou guys meet?
We were actually.
You were in a band already yeahand their guitarist sucked and
they kicked him out.
And then um, through mutualfriends that we'd had, they were
like, oh, this guy ryanactually the old guitarist was
(06:13):
also named ryan.
They were like you should getthis guy in.
Um and tanner was in that bandand I went to pick him up for a
practice one day and we hadnever met in person before, but
we were in the same band and Ipicked him up and like
immediately, we just likestarted talking, like we've
known each other for years and,oh cool, ever since then we've
been in multiple bands togetherbefore psych.
(06:35):
Oh, really yeah, this was like2015, I think yeah, it was 2015
and then we started severalbands.
None of them really worked, andthen we we started Psych in the
summer of 2018.
So we're coming up on six years.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
I think of Psych.
Yeah, six years in June.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
What do you think makes this one work?
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Less people, less people, oh, 100%.
So what?
Speaker 1 (06:56):
gets you kicked out of a band.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
So I've never been kicked out.
I've only ever stayed until thebitter ends of every single one
or left on my own terms, um,but what gets you kicked out of
a band is um consistency of notbeing consistent, yes, um.
Not showing up, not showingwell.
Not only just not showing up,but not molding well with
(07:25):
everybody else ego yeah, itcould be ego and it could just
straight up be just personality.
Sometimes it just doesn't fit.
Um, sometimes people can workthrough that and settle their
differences and being like, ohyeah, I'm just working with this
person but, um, for ryan and Iit's very important that we mesh
well together.
If either of us are having abad day, we let each other know
(07:48):
and we work through it together.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Oh nice.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
If we ever have any differences, we mediate it, we
come to a nice compromise andwith other people who we have
had, that's been a verydifficult thing to work through.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
With us.
It keeps it simple, so have hadmeaning like your past bands
there's no room for a third or afourth in this psych yeah,
we've considered it at one pointbut, that was quickly, uh,
pushed under, we um, we like thedynamic of us yeah, yeah
Speaker 3 (08:23):
and we've had many people over the years be like oh
, do you guys need a bassist?
Very, very, very talentedpeople.
And we were always like, no,even if they're very talented
people.
It's the dynamic of how thisworks and has been working for
so long.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
I don't want to ruin that it's been going so well for
so long.
Good, good, it's like bringinga third into the bedroom it
might fuck everything up, rightum, who does like the writing of
the lyrics?
It's collaboration or mainlyyou, ryan?
Speaker 3 (08:57):
for years it's been me primarily, but recently it's
been a little bit morecollaboration and why is that?
Um, why is, do you mean like,why is there more collaboration?
Speaker 1 (09:08):
yeah, well, yeah, why did you sort of open up that?
Speaker 3 (09:12):
I'm kind of a megalomaniac when it comes to
creativity and I recognize that,and tanner has increasingly
been so much.
He's always been a very, veryimpressive musician, but he's
just been opening up so muchmore even than he already was,
and as a as a vocalist, as alyricist, as a songwriter and I
(09:34):
it just felt like it was timeyeah and there's one song we
just recently wrote that he justwrote all the lyrics for, like
oh, really, yeah, usually foryou.
Yeah, thank you yeah go tannerwe've always had the.
We write the music first andthen like I'll really just mess
with the lyrics alone for a longtime, and I did that for this
song.
And then tanner hit me up.
(09:54):
He's like hey, I got, I gotlyrics for the song.
I was like what, like all ofthem?
And he sent it to me and I hadlyrics and I was like delete
trash, wow, and they're great.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
They're really, really good what do you guys
usually sing about?
Speaker 3 (10:08):
a lot of the subject matter is like soured
relationships, whether it'sromantic or personal, or
betrayal is a huge theme throughour lyrical content um a lot of
just like things that happen tous yeah like, like the bad
things, that really happen to usis like our therapy cathartic
way of getting it like workedout which has always actually
felt amazing yeah, yeah, so it'sbeyond like relationships, yeah
(10:31):
yeah, it's also like um, justlike also life situations, you
know um can you give me anexample?
oh man yeah, uh, like our songScratching my Eyes Out.
I wrote that around the timeCOVID started happening and
everyone was inside and everyonewas going stir crazy and that
(10:52):
was about just like kind oflosing my mind, like I couldn't
really work that much.
I was like not seeing a lot ofpeople.
I lost like a significantamount of weight.
It was a crazy time and youwent crazy and that song was
just about like kind of justbeing like like low-key losing
it yeah, and feeling like I'mslipping.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
I'm slipping a lot.
I'm not doing good.
That's cool.
What about girls?
Are there girls in your livesright now?
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Okay.
But, it's new.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
No.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
It's old.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Yes, that's good.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Yes, okay.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
It's been off and on thing for close to like a year
and a half now, okay, yeah, it'sgood.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
It's good.
Have you written anything aboutthis particular person?
Speaker 3 (11:44):
No, no, no.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
No, no, you think you will in the future.
Maybe Does she want you to.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
I'd have to ask.
I would have to ask.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
What about you, Tanner?
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Not in particular.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Not in particular.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Right now, I mean, I'm personally taking it easy on
my strides in life.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
In terms of the writing about people.
That's a very good point.
I try to make it a point not towrite about people that I know.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
It can get ugly right .
Speaker 2 (12:15):
It can yeah, Especially if you write like a
big love song about somebody andthey're like oh, my God, you
mean so much to me.
The world.
And then like, if things split,then you're like ooh, let's
record it.
Oh, my god you mean so much tome the world and then like, if
things split, then you're likeoh, that's recorded.
Now I have this song about thisperson that I don't quite feel
that way, yeah, but the samealso goes for the other way
around.
About a song about hatingsomebody, yeah, um, in
(12:37):
particular like um, because ifthat, if you come around to
being like you know what, Iactually still like this person
regardless of everything.
I mean that's also like a caseby case thing, yeah, but if it's
like specifically, maybe aboutyou know if something has turned
like sour in a relationship,and then you're like, oh man,
(12:57):
this sucks.
And then you're like you know,I actually still kind of care
for this person.
It's just the situation.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
You don't want to diss them.
Yeah, exactly, exactly doesn'tit feel good, though sometimes
like you guys like scream thingsout loud yeah it's cathartic,
it helps, but you're neveraiming that energy at a
particular person most of thetime case by right.
Watch out people.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Case by case.
I've got a couple of disstracks.
Yeah, in fact I'd say a lot ofthem are diss tracks actually.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Oh, my God.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
But, for a long, long time ago.
A lot of these songs are old,about people I haven't seen in
years.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Yeah, so it's safe.
It's safe, yes, yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
I won't do it if someone's currently in my life
or it's just like we're.
We're mad at each other at themoment.
Yeah, it's like door shut.
Nails are in the coffin Likewe're done.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
That's that's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
OK.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Better words than me I'm still just waking up.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Got it together.
So yeah, you're still waking up.
What do you guys do when youknow?
Speaker 2 (14:04):
oh yeah, you go first on this one jobs or jobs
hobbies outside of the musicI've got uh.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
I right now I'm just uh in school.
Um, I have a job.
I just drive for the papajohn's, which is pretty good
money actually, and then whenI'm not doing that, it's
literally like spending timewith the female companion we've
referenced before, or, um,spending time with my son oh,
you have a son I do yeah wow,how old is he he just turned two
(14:36):
and a half oh you gotta lovethat age it's it's great yeah he
will not stop talking.
Yes, and they won't they't.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
I have an eight-year-old and I have to
like.
I used to put like earbuds inbecause it was overwhelming to
the senses.
Oh my God.
But I didn't want to be mean,so I'll be like let me just have
a little peace for 30 minutesand then.
I'll take him out and it'llfeel better.
Yeah, do you live with your sonor do you share him?
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Split, it'll feel better.
Yeah, do you live with your sonor do you share him Split?
Yeah, I get him like the secondhalf of the week, that's nice,
yeah.
Yeah, a little break in between, it's very nice.
Yeah, that's cool.
When I'm with him, I love himso much.
And then, like by the last day,I'm like all right.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Time.
You've been saying likespider-man halloween.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
For like three days now I've watched this episode 30
times.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Yeah, it's good, but you know, yeah, yeah can we
watch puppy dog pals orsomething?
Switch it up a bit, yeah, um,do you guys have roommates?
You guys live alone.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
I I live in my uh grandparents house with my
brother, sister-in-law and theirtwo kids oh, wow, yeah, you
have.
You have some kids in your lifetoo oh, I also have my own
daughter too, you do yes, oh mygod how's that?
Speaker 1 (15:52):
how is she?
Speaker 2 (15:52):
she's wonderful yeah, she's beautiful, she's how old
is she.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
She's a year old okay , and a couple months yeah yeah,
we're in the early stages um itgets easier, guys, all right I
needed that yeah it has it hasfrom the, from the very early
age.
Yes, yeah, yeah, I can feelit's getting well, you it goes
like this right you know, themore they grow, you know you can
(16:19):
kind of stop holding their handand, uh, communicate better and
um, crying might stop yeah, forthe most part it has.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Yeah, yeah.
Then he'll like get on top of atable and fall and be like I'm
like are you okay?
Speaker 1 (16:34):
and he's like yeah, he's still crying I'm like all
right, buddy, you got it.
Are you guys seeing anymusically inclined talents?
I mean they're really young,but do you guys like put a drum
set in front of them or anything?
Speaker 2 (16:51):
My daughter really, really loves the wiggles, so I
think there's some potentialthere.
There you go.
She's already wiggling at likea year old.
So you know the pipeline ofwiggling to musician is it's
such a strong pipeline.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Yeah, it's like a direct like yeah, 80 mile per
hour bright line right there.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
yeah the bright line hit somebody right a family of
five yeah that keeps hittingpeople yeah, I mean, like it's
hungry, need souls, do you?
Guys follow that that accounton Instagram about it.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
There's an account on Instagram.
Yeah, that's a little toomorbid call it.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Yeah, murder train.
He's hungry.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Yeah, like every time I see it I just go like, oh,
there it goes, to get anotherfamily of five like yeah, it's
like on a weekly basis yeah,please I think so.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
I mean, like I'm not totally exaggerating, I mean, no
, I think you're right.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
I think you're 100 right.
It's like a new problem.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
It just keeps hitting people it's like over 100
people, since people try to gothrough it really fast well, I I
think that's a problem forFlorida.
Yeah, yeah, definitely a lot ofFlorida men out there.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Not much more anymore .
I guess About 100 less About134 less.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
You got the number.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Last time I checked Statistics on the stat.
All right.
So both of you are young dads.
That's crazy to me.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
DILFs if you will.
You could call us dad rock ifyou'd want.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
DILFs.
What do you do as a job?
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Oh God.
So I say that in a loving way,because I like to over encumber
myself with just a bunch ofdifferent things, so I do like
Uber Eats deliveries at night.
During the day, I give musiclessons over at Music and Arts
(19:00):
in development with a newproject called Mosaic Music,
which is a small company focusedon giving lessons to every
individual, no matter skill setor age range, while also
planning to put on events andspecial occasions that are all
related to music.
(19:20):
Um, and then, on my own accord,I also write video game music
in my free time.
get out yeah, so I keep myselfbusy.
Oh, and then I also performwith the space coast symphony
orchestra oh damn busy boy overhere, absolutely busy wow.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
So when you you write stuff for video games, how do
you just put it up on like ahosting site and people will
pick.
I want that one in that one.
How does?
Speaker 2 (19:51):
that work.
I usually get people come to me, usually with my online
presence, where I like onTwitter or if you want to call
it X.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
I don't, nobody calls it it.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
X.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
That was such a decision what's your handle, so
people can find you?
Speaker 2 (20:08):
it is r-u-k-y, d-e-e-r, and if you find me
there you can contact me forvideo game music I've composed
for specifically.
Right now I work with Sky HourWorks.
We made games such as how Exorathe Skies Abound, a game called
(20:29):
A Nightmare's Trip, some gamejams like Pat Cat, and then also
another one called Space MechPilot.
There's a couple other gamesthat we have in the works.
And then I'm also working withanother studio right now, which
with a in development game thatI don't know if I can say too
much about okay um, but allthese are relatively small
companies, um nothing big orcrazy but you've really tapped
(20:53):
into the different avenues likea musician can take.
Yeah, absolutely, that'simpressive other than psych and
my video game music and workingwith the orchestra.
I also have two of my ownprojects called car crash
victims, which is a emo shoegazepost-rock band, and another one
called mechanical canine, whichis a jungle hyper pop, um,
(21:17):
electronic crazy project andthese are all they're.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
They're side bands and ryan, you're cool with that.
I just have this.
This is it.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
I wasn't another band a little bit ago for a little
bit, but it's just like.
Uh, I actually was kicked outof that band yeah, what'd you do
?
I didn't show up, I guess.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
Which is I love those guys.
But that's not true.
No, there's weird stuff behindthe scenes with a guitarist yeah
, girl drama.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
But that band has they kicked me out, and then
they immediately stopped doingthings.
Playing, oh, that sucks For nothaving enough time.
Hmm, hmm, we all don't haveenough time.
Yeah, no one does um.
But now, uh, aside from that, Imean you had also had other
side projects before your ummechanical canine and car crash
(22:19):
tanner was a man called ectogasmyears ago yeah um, so I've been
, I've been cool with the sidepieces for a while.
I'm just like you know.
We'll keep this an openrelationship.
Just you know, as long as youcome home to daddy, that's all I
care about, so I have my littleside piece action with
Underbite and honestly, we'vejust been doing this together
(22:40):
for so long.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Yeah, it's easy.
Yeah, psych is home base.
Yeah, psych's home base, psychis home base.
It's main priority for me.
All the other side projects Ido are just to get that ADHD
brain part of me out, like Ineed to work on this.
But this doesn't apply to psych, so I'm going to go off and do
my own thing with it, just so Ican get it out of my system.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Yeah, I hear you.
I think I'm like that too.
I have like 15 projects andit's like 15 minutes at a time.
Then I lose interest and I haveto go to the next one.
Oh yeah, absolutely Do you guysthink you guys are like a
yin-yang, like opposites.
Oh yeah, yes, a thousandpercent A thousand percent we
have.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
We have nothing in common.
This is the one thing we havein common.
But I also feel like wewouldn't have worked if we were
much more similar and, like weknow when, to not be around each
other too much, which I feellike is the problem with almost
(23:40):
all band personal romanticrelationships like, at least in
my personal experience, justspending too much time yeah like
we come to practice, we tear itup, we have our shows, we go
crazy and then we're like allright, we'll see you the next
practice.
And that's been the vibe fornine years.
Yeah, we're still writing,playing like recording.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
No signs of slowing down.
So, yeah, your concertsprobably get really intense.
Yeah, what is the craziestthing that has happened during a
concert.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Well, funny enough.
You say this Ryan, take it over.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
The other night.
The other night, the othernight we were playing the Stamp
at Vero.
I love the Stamp.
Such a good venue.
It's a violent little venue.
It's a crappy little dive bar.
I say with love and you getlike 30 to 40 people in there
and it's the most violent thingyou've ever seen.
People are like sitting on thebar.
(24:45):
Dudes are just like like, didyou see the dude do the backflip
?
Speaker 2 (24:48):
no, I didn't.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Yeah, he backed almost into you, oh my god, like
in the pit.
What is the age range here, uh?
Speaker 3 (24:54):
anywhere from like early 20s to like 40s probably
actually there was a there wasan older man in a wheelchair yes
uh, next to the side of the pit, that was pretty cool yeah, but
um, I talked to him after theshow.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
He was like yeah, people were trying to protect me
.
Do they not see all thesetattoos on my arms I got myself
where do you see yourself in 40years?
Speaker 3 (25:12):
yeah, there but it was towards the end of our set
and you know there's moshinggoing on, it's not abnormal.
And then it got a littleintense and two dudes started
swinging on each other like realhard like linebacker, looking
like six, two, six, three dudes,and I was like, hey, can you
stop, can you not do?
Speaker 1 (25:32):
that?
Do you say that in themicrophone?
Speaker 3 (25:33):
oh, yeah, this is the only time I would have, because
any other time of moshing I'mnot gonna stop that yeah, that's
awesome yeah but like I, I sawlike several fists flying.
It was like four or five peoplegot involved and I was like all
right, you, we're not going todo that like this is now hurting
the show, please.
I know there's probably othermetal bands.
They're like yeah there's you,awesome yeah like it's cool
(25:55):
until a point, but other peoplethere that aren't feeling that
that that kills the show so I, I.
It was towards the end of thesong so I didn't have to stop,
but we didn't continue the setuntil it finished.
I was like all right, figurethis out, like not at my show,
someone go over there.
Someone go over there.
Figure it out.
Or don't come back, or we'llstop playing yeah like we only
(26:17):
had one song left.
Anyway, right, but um yeah, no,the fist fight.
That was pretty cool hasanybody like?
Speaker 1 (26:23):
have you needed to call an ambulance or anything?
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Not, yet Not yet.
There was another show weplayed in Vero years ago where
we played similar like smallshow but violent show and
afterwards a girl walked up tome with just blood running out
of her nose and she was likethat show was awesome.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
I had such a good time.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
I'm like, are you okay Do?
You know what's going on andshe's like yes, I do.
I got hit like the beginning ofthe set.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Oh my gosh, take an Advil or something.
Totally.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Do you guys?
Speaker 1 (26:54):
have like like stage five clingers, like fans that
are just it's an old reference.
Yeah, i'm'm sorry, I just wentno, it was um, it was uh.
No, oh, was it I was thinkingit was um wayne.
(27:16):
Uh, wayne's world.
Right, that's the original.
Am I wrong?
Yeah, there, yeah, have youguys seen Wayne's World?
Speaker 2 (27:25):
It's been a while since I've seen it.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Okay, well, yeah, they had this fan.
That was crazy.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Oh, a crazed fan.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Crazed fan Girl in particular.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Hmm, crazed Not exactly so maybe there's a stage
one.
Yeah, yeah, group.
You guys have group thing.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Three or four.
Yeah, group, you guys havegroupies.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
No, we don't.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
You guys don't see like the same faces.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
I mean.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Ryan does.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Do you no, no, no.
We see some repeat faces.
Yes, we do, and it's been sixyears, Like we've seen some
repeat people that areinterested Over it's been six
years, like we've seen somerepeat people that are
interested over time gone away.
I mean, but no, for this willgo public.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
No, no so nobody's ever like giving you their phone
number after the show oranything one time somebody did
for me yeah that was awkward umyou didn't call
Speaker 2 (28:19):
them.
No, uh, they're like, hey, um,can my friend give me?
Oh my God, I can't speak.
They were like, hey, can youlike give me your number?
And I was like at first I waslike, oh my gosh, they're being
really friendly.
And then it kicked in on me andI was like at the time I was
like I'm in a relationship, I'msorry, no.
At the time I was like I'm in arelationship, I'm sorry, no.
(28:43):
And still thinking about it now, I probably wouldn't, just
because I feel like there's aweird air about that.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Right, like somebody like coming to the show and
being like hey, but even if theywere super cute, does that not
matter?
Speaker 2 (28:58):
I think that still would waver on me.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Really.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
I'd have to give it some time to think about it.
Yeah, because I don't know it.
If somebody's like coming tothe show to see you and enjoy
you and a somehow relationshipforms from that, to me, it feels
a little awkward because it'slike you're being idolized, yeah
and I feel like that wouldcontinue through like a
(29:23):
non-performative setting yeah,where it's like, that's wise
yeah so it's like, if I likewake up the next morning and I'm
just doing my daily thing ofbeing myself, and they're still
like starry-eyed yeah then itkind of well, where do you guys
meet girls, then, or significantothers?
Speaker 3 (29:41):
I will say I do kind of have to poke in.
I was like, oh no, not really.
I met my baby mama at a psychshow.
Yeah, the mother of my child,she came to a psych show.
Did she pass you the number, orhow did that go?
Speaker 1 (29:55):
We were both dating people at the time, oh man.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
We hated those people .
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
But we're not going to mess around.
But it started just not numbers, but we're not, you know, going
to mess around.
But I started just not numbers,but like.
Following on like Instagram orSnapchat.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
That's like the in for I feel like people.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
DMs, it is DMs.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
yeah, dms are the ins , or even just like slightly
over time, like follow, and thenlike here, like there, like a
story there, I'll swipe up onthis here and then, before you
know it, you have like a two anda half year old with them yeah,
that's actually also thesimilar story with me on how my
daughter came to be.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Um, it was, they were .
They were really good with it,they were really sneaky.
Um, she came to a show where Iwasn't even doing a psych show.
I was actually like gueststarring on um one of my buddy
sets and playing synthesizer forthem.
And she came to the show andhad been watching Psych for a
(30:50):
hot minute and they postedsomething up on Facebook and I
saw it and I was like, oh mygosh, we talked about it.
And then they messaged me andthey were like, so what was that
instrument?
You were playing up there, damnwell, knowing exactly what that
instrument was, and they got meon the gear talk and we started
(31:12):
a long conversation and then,next thing, you know it, boom
yeah, there's a daughter.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Yeah, do you guys have good relationships with
them, though?
Speaker 2 (31:20):
yeah, that's good, yeah, yeah, yeah good yeah, you
got to right, yeah you have togotta make it work.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
They're great moms yeah, they're great moms shout
out to alexa mckenzie they're,they're incredible mothers yeah,
I couldn't.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
I could not have asked for a better mother yeah,
for my child ditto.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Do you guys?
Do they still come to the shows?
Speaker 3 (31:39):
uh no mckenzie does every now and then.
That's good yeah yeah,babysitter she did bring tyler
uh to a psych show.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Uh, my son oh, really yeah back in october did you
have to wear headphones?
Speaker 3 (31:53):
uh no, it was at the ogali civic center.
Did he wear headphones?
Speaker 2 (31:56):
I don't remember I think he did, he might have.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
He might have worn headphones.
Yeah, he was.
It's actually the day before heturned two.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
We all sang happy birthday.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
It was the coolest set we've ever played.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
It was cool.
We're all cool.
Everybody still loves eachother.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Good, good, good.
I want to play a game with youguys as you know or may not know
, Nyla Lois was the one whonominated you guys to be on the
show.
We're going to play a littlegame called Nyla Wants to Know.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Oh, let's do it.
Let's do it.
Come on, here, we go, all right.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
There's a few questions for you, all right.
What style of music did youstart playing at first?
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Oh, that's a good question.
That is yeah.
How would we describe it?
Speaker 3 (32:46):
like we as a band or we personally like, why not both
?
Both okay, so both.
I first started playing inbands, playing like just covers,
like radio rock, like foodfighters or creed um here, but
um we, I'd say we startedplaying like almost like kind of
indie alternative, like grungy.
(33:07):
When we started yeah, like Iwas listening to a lot of
strokes, and like Guns N' Roses,like pad rock yeah, what would
you say?
Speaker 2 (33:18):
um, personally first starting out, yeah, I was doing
a lot of like indie rock stufftoo, um, and also dabbling in
like emo.
I was doing like my own drumcovers in my garage with like a
camera set up.
Um, those are hidden somewherein the vault, um, uh, but yeah,
for psych.
Starting out it was.
(33:39):
But yeah, for Psych startingout it was very, I would say,
almost like experimental rock ina way.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Because we had.
I was playing synthesizers withmy left hand and drums with my
right hand.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Time for ADD.
Yeah, seriously, the ADHD wascrazy.
It still is, but that was theundiagnosed period.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
It's your superpower.
It really is.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
It really comes in handy.
In other days it is sodetrimental.
But yeah, at first it was likeelectronic indie post-grunge,
like post grunge, and now it'sdefinitely that weird um rock,
(34:30):
electronic, hardcore, metalcore.
Every other core it's just,it's just us yeah it's hard to
put a label on it.
If you want to put an umbrellaterm, it's rock, but if you want
to get into specifics, we haveno idea, dad core, dad core.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
What are your top three favorite bands currently?
I know we talked about a littlebit like influenced, but
currently.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
Yeah, oh man, I.
I was about to say I gotta pullup my spotify for this one.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
I give you one.
I'm always listening to um thepop punk band the story, so they
were huge when I was in highschool and I still love them.
A lot of like my lyrical things.
I went to Instagram.
What am I doing?
Speaker 1 (35:11):
That's not even close .
Checking your DM Just gottacheck them.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
It's all men.
Top three current favoriteartists.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
I'm going through a big Aliceice in chain space okay
um, and I'm going back to uhtitle fight I'm getting into
title no, we're so over, yeahtitle fight.
Yeah, they were like a 2010s,like emo hardcore band, um, and
I all like music snob friends.
I have always been like yeahtitle fight, title fight, and
(35:43):
I've never listened to them toomuch, but now they got you.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
They're so good.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
This is going to be a very eclectic three that.
I have Okay what you got Firstone is Scuttlefuzz.
They're a very indie electronicbedroom pop band.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
I like that name.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
It's such a good name Scuttlefuzz is cool.
Scuttlefuzz is really cool.
Um, there's a local band calledfuneral homes.
They're a shoegaze band.
Um, super good and um, I think.
Lastly, for top three recently,keonashi ke yeah.
(36:24):
Keio Nashi.
Japanese no, they are a.
They are like a slam hardcoreband and the vocalist has some
really wild high-pitched screamsthat you won't find anywhere
else but they're very.
At first everybody's a littlebit taken aback by the band
(36:47):
because the vocals reallyoff-put.
But once you get into thelyrics and meanings and like
really digging, like what it'sall about and if you can get
past that first initial phase oflike culture shock almost yeah
then you can really enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
It's a really slam a band interesting yeah, oh cool,
all right, nyla wants to knowhow old were you when you
learned how to play your musicor your instruments oh god like
11 11.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
Yeah, yeah, I got into guitar hero at first is
that how it happened?
yeah, yeah, there's a kid on mystreet when I was growing up.
He was like the rich kid, um,and he always had cool stuff on
christmas.
So, like christmas morning Iopened my things and I was like
this sucks.
And then I went to raymond'shouse and he got guitar hero and
I was like whoa, this is crazy.
(37:36):
And um, I got really, reallygood at that.
And then I was like, can I havea guitar?
Can I have a guitar?
My dad was like no, and I keptbothering him and he bought me
like a Fender star caster andthat was yeah, I was like 10, 10
or 11, sucked at it for like along time.
I still suck at it.
It's been 17 years.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
You're good enough, right?
Speaker 3 (38:00):
Yeah, yeah, good enough, I'm good enough to trick
people that don't know how toplay it.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
That's funny.
What about you?
Speaker 2 (38:05):
I follow the same exact pipeline, but with a
little bit of alteration inthere.
I started out Guitar Hero 3 onthe Wii, yes, which sucked
because the DLC was so limited.
I think it only came with thepre-built in-game DLC and not
like any additional ones you canget from the store so it's like
(38:26):
I would later go on YouTube andbe like, how are people playing
these songs?
like, I don't have these songs.
So after Guitar Hero 3, my, Ifeel like my parents knew that I
was very musically inclined, soduring one Christmas they
bought me Rock Band 1 and then,yeah, I went from guitar
immediately to drums and that'sall I would play is.
(38:47):
I would just keep playing thedrums and then, as the years
went on, like Rock Band 3 cameout and they got the cymbal
attachments with it, my parentsbought me like an upgraded Rock
Band foot pedal and I was soupedup with that kit.
Um, and the the great thingabout rock band is actually a
lot like I would say like 90 ofthe notes are pretty accurate to
(39:12):
an actual drum set they evenhave like so it translates well,
it translates very well,interesting there's even some
individuals who have made rockband guitar hero s games on the
computer with custom songs andmaps, and you can plug in, like
your rock band and guitar herocontrollers into those onto your
(39:34):
computer and still keeplearning that's so cool.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
I'm trying to get my daughter to appreciate music,
and you know like it's valuableto know an instrument, so I'm
taking this.
I remember playing too, and Ifeel like a fucking rock star.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
So, it's a good feeling.
It's electrifying.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
Yes, it really is I'm going to.
That's what we're doing thissummer Nice.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Thank you, boys, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
All we're doing this summer.
Nice, thank you boys,absolutely.
Uh, all right, nyla wants toknow what's the best advice you
have for young musicians,besides this rock band theory
that we've made up here thatrock band theory is a very good
one?
Yeah, I think so too.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
Just play, yeah, just play and suck, just be really
bad and just.
But don't stop, just keep going, suck and suck, and suck and
suck and suck, and then one, andthen one day you just won't.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
If you keep doing it, you will have to get better at
some point.
We've bombed a millionbajillion times over the course
of our entire music life.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
We've had a saying now in psych is like if a show
doesn't go wrong, it wasn't apsych show.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
No, yeah, we'll have technical problems every single
show, really yeah, every singleshow, but we've learned to
navigate that and honestly kindof make it work for us and like
make it light, and then when wego back and it feels like kind
of even better because it's like, oh yeah, like you know, this
can suck but, now we jumped backon.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
So yeah, just keep playing just keep playing, just
keep playing, keep playing liveOkay, playing in front of people
is a real fight or flight.
Speaker 3 (41:05):
You can be really good or really probably really
bad at first.
But you'll know how to.
You'll feel the I suck and I'mnot doing well and that's a bad
feeling.
And you'll immediately be like,ah, how do I get this better?
Speaker 1 (41:26):
And you'll be analytical about it and you'll
figure it out and the next timeyou suck it won't.
It won't hurt as bad, yeah no,sting is bad.
Speaker 3 (41:30):
Yeah, very good all right.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
One more question from miss nyla when's your next?
Speaker 3 (41:31):
gig.
Ah, oh, we just had our lastone scheduled.
Yeah, you guys just played, huh, what about the mexican?
Speaker 2 (41:36):
restaurant are we?
Doing that I think that's stillin works.
I got to hit back up on that.
But yeah, I think we're goingto be playing a very small
Mexican restaurant venue here inthe future.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
Yeah, goodness.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
At first, when I got that message, I was like yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:55):
What yeah?
Speaker 2 (41:58):
I was like I don't think there's a more perfect
venue for psych than a smallmexican restaurant hosting us.
I feel like that fits our vibeimmensely that's super cool.
Speaker 1 (42:09):
Well, let us know, tell us how we can um get in
touch or like be up to date withyour happenings yeah, uh, we
have social media.
Speaker 3 (42:21):
Um we only facebook.
We have facebook.
We have, uh, we're mostlyactive on instagram okay, to be
honest I think we have a twitter.
We do that thing's been active,but yeah, don't go there okay,
so instagram, what's your handle?
Uh, psych s-i-k-e underscoref-l.
Speaker 1 (42:38):
That's it nice, nice, any parting words, boys.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
Thank you so much for having us.
Speaker 1 (42:44):
Thank you for coming.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
It was a joy letting us indulge in ourselves.
We don't get interviewed toooften, so it's always nice to
come up and help tell the worldabout what we are, what we do,
what it is, what it do.
Speaker 1 (42:58):
Absolutely.
It was a pleasure to meet bothof you.
You guys are awesome.
Oh yeah, what it is, what it do, it was a pleasure to meet both
of you.
You guys are awesome.
Oh yeah, you guys want tonominate someone.
I'd sit in your chairs.
Speaker 2 (43:06):
Who do you want to nominate?
Because I have somebody I wantto nominate, you do yeah.
Go for it.
I want to nominate fields ofSaturn.
Speaker 3 (43:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
I feel like they've been one of the most
long-standing bands within ourhistory of Brevard and I would
love to hear their brains beingpicked.
Speaker 3 (43:26):
Would love to love to see fields up here, cool there
and their lead singer booked thefirst psych show yeah, ever oh,
really yeah back in, like 2018people they're very fine.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
Yeah, yeah, I got a sweet guy.
Speaker 1 (43:41):
Yeah, love Casey all right, casey, you've been
nominated.
Speaker 3 (43:44):
I probably will nominate Anthony Soland.
He is the guy from standardcollective singer of easy Uzi's
(44:06):
beautiful we'd love to get himin.
He's a great dude.
He's been in the scene forever.
Standard used to be in the mall.
Now it's in O'Galley, yeah, andI'm literally.
There's a standard shirt, thisis a standard hat.
He's a great guy.
He's a hell of a singer andyeah, and he's got major roots
here yeah back in the groovetube days groove tube.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
Oh, you guys don't know about the groove tube.
Speaker 3 (44:28):
No, we're old jesse before standard collective bs
before psych anthony's alwaysbeen the nicest dude and his
band band's been great and EasyUzis was one of the first big
shows we ever played at the nowdefunct Open.
Mike's rest in peace.
I think Mike the bassist saw usand was like oh, y'all got to
(44:50):
open for Easy Uzis and I waslike okay, and yeah, it was the
first show we played to like 80or something people and they've
always been really nice, reallysupportive.
Anthony's a good dude.
Speaker 1 (44:58):
All right, cool, anthony, get your butt in here,
mike says hello, I was therebefore today.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
I'm like, yeah, we have a psychic.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
He's like oh, yeah, I told those guys.
I sent Mike what's up.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
Mike I love Mike.
Every time I walk intoApocalypse he's like I thought I
kicked you guys all out.
Speaker 3 (45:16):
He's hilarious rid of us.
Speaker 1 (45:17):
Yeah, all right, cool .
Well, you guys are welcome back.
Anytime you want to promotesomething, come on back.
It was a pleasure meeting youguys, thank you thank you to be
a sponsor or nominate a guest.
Hit us up on instagram at localunderscore celebrity underscore
brevard.
Until next time, goodbye.
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