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May 20, 2025 75 mins

Former CIA operative Nic McKinley exposes the reality of human trafficking in America—and how his organization, DeliverFund, is fighting back using intelligence-grade tools.

In this episode of Spartan Leadership, Josh Kosnick sits down with Nic to discuss his journey from elite U.S. Air Force Pararescueman to CIA operative, and now nonprofit founder leading the fight against exploitation and modern slavery.

This is more than a conversation about trafficking. It’s a masterclass in courage, discipline, and doing what’s right when no one’s watching.

🔗 Learn more about Nic’s work: https://www.deliverfund.org
📲 Follow Nic on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/the.nic.mckinley
🎟️ Join us at Bridge Builder Live: https://joshkosnick.com/bridgebuilderlive



⏱ Timestamps (Chapters):
00:00 – “You Have to Decide: I Will Succeed or I Will Not Exist.”
02:15 – Welcome to Spartan Leadership
03:24 – Nic’s Path: From Pararescue to the CIA
08:26 – The Mentality Behind Special Operations
13:01 – Why Most People Fail Fast (and Keep Failing)
14:14 – Life Inside the CIA: Myths vs. Reality
19:08 – What the Public Gets Wrong About the Agency
27:08 – Why Nic Left the CIA to Fight Human Trafficking
31:14 – The Dark Truth About Trafficking in the U.S.
35:16 – The Role of Social Media in Exploitation
41:08 – DeliverFund’s AI and National Reach
44:28 – What Parents Actually Need to Know
48:01 – Why Fatherhood Is the Frontline of Prevention
50:00 – Good Dad vs. Tough Dad (Which One Protects Better?)
56:04 – What to Do If You Discover Online Grooming
58:08 – Remote Viewing, Myths & Government Conspiracies
1:06:26 – How to Lead Courageously When No One’s Watching
1:11:13 – Support the Mission: How to Help DeliverFund
1:13:08 – Final Thoughts & Call to Action

Spartan Valor Foundation is dedicated to empowering veterans, military families, and survivors of child trafficking. Through strategic partnerships, we provide critical resources, advocacy, and hope for those who have sacrificed so much. Join us in making a difference—because no hero should stand alone.

🔗 Learn more: spartanvalor.org

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