Understanding the New Global Power Structure - Part 2 Truth Detective Stephanie Lee - Ep 3 - Spoken Life Show

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Spoken Life. Thank you for joining me again.
This is episode three of the series. My name is
Rob Greenley and I'm joined again in this episode by
Stephanie Lee, who is the Truth Detective, and we're going
to discuss the realization and the discovery of the possibility

(00:21):
that maybe we have significantly changed individually as humans and
how we see the world around us and maybe how
shocking that is. So I hope you enjoy this conversation.
So let's get started, and I appreciate you being here.
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
The inspiration of spoken word tech and connection Spoken.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
Spoken Stephanie, We're back together again, Yes, talcome more in
depth discussion around trust and.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
Truth, trusty, truthy kind of things right that our podcasts
are about. You have the trust and I have the
truth and they marry each other, get together and form
a wonderful connection with what we know and know to
be very right in our society.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
It's really an important component of how all of us
look at the world and how we trying to evaluate
the information that we have right coming at us, which
is coming at us at a level and degree and
volume that is a clip speed. It's a little overwhelming.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
Yes, Oh, I think it's not just us that feel overwhelmed,
I think chaotic the things that are coming out, and
it's you just don't know what to believe. You all
know the truth, you don't know that you don't have
the trust. It's really changed our whole way of looking
at things, and it's very scary what we're being told
and how we have to interpret all the things that

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we're we have to go through. It's a really scary time.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
Yeah, And I was just thinking about it, and we
were just talking about it earlier, and I know this
is the second part of two episodes here talking about
this kind of deep topic of trust and truth. And
it seems like increasingly I'm starting to really look at

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the world quite differently as opposed to maybe ten years ago,
when I think we all and maybe I'm reflective of
some of you or maybe a large percentage of view
that saw the world in a much more idyllic light
in the past, where.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
We traditional values, traditional like.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
Its saw so much traditional values, but we just saw
the world as more stable. And but maybe that was
a mirage. And I think that's the question that I'm
increasingly asking myself. And it's a little bit not to
be negative here, and I'm not trying to be negative,
because part of talking about this is trying to open
the door towards trying to rationalize how I'm feeling now

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as opposed to how I used to feel. Is what
I used to feel just as much of a feeling
of a lie as what I see the world is
today is. And maybe what we're really coming into is
a new time of awareness and enlightenment about the human

(03:26):
condition and the world that we live in and how
it maybe wasn't as idyllic as we had thought it was. Right.

Speaker 3 (03:33):
And when I say traditional values, I mean like you're
going to know things are happening Christmas and all these things,
and Jeneo Christian values wake up and know things are
going to be the way they've always been. And what
we're discovering is that's not true. We wake up in
a chaotic mode and not know what the next thing is.

(03:57):
We're going to be told what the next thing is
going to be that we have to endure, and I
think that's a sad state of affairs. When we were
growing up in the seventies and eighties is when I
grew up, when you grew up, And I think that
we had a way of just thinking about life that

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it wasn't going to change. We knew that things were
as they were, and we had our problems, but they
were pretty good. I mean, now we're being thrown things
every day that it's, oh my goodness, I didn't see
that coming, and how is that possible? And I've been
lied to about this thing that I always believed, So

(04:41):
I do think. I mean, I'm really very fearful of
the future of what it holds because of what we've
been told hasn't necessarily been truthful, or we can't trust
what we've been told. That's the whole idea of what
my feeling is about mine when I do my podcast.

(05:04):
I know that's what you do when you do your podcast.
Is the whole eroding of trust, the eroding of truth.
What is going on and the traditional values mean that
we just have these things that we always knew we're
going to be there, We're going to enjoy life, have

(05:26):
the happiness that we have on a daily basis. Yeah,
we might go to work, but we get something out
of it. We get a joy. Hopefully we get a
paycheck at the end of the pay period and we
can utilize it any way we want, and all these
wonderful things. There's holidays, and there's joy and laughter. I

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don't see that anymore. I see it as being just
very dark at dark times, the dark ages. Really.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
But is that because we're increasingly as a civilization and
being able to see the truth about how our governments
and how corporations and how this dynamic that happens has
been solely manipulated. I think that a lot of degree
we're seeing the world's really come to this realization that

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maybe this government corporate partnership that we're seeing develop, and
it's been developing for many years now, it's like an
evolutionary move that's it's just reached a point where it's
starting to become really obvious that our government does not
represent the people anymore. It's got its own bubble around it, right,

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and that bubble is very much like a large corporation.
I used to work at a huge company called Microsoft,
and that was very much bubble. People that were inside
the Microsoft bubble did not see the world in the
same way that people outside the bubble saw.

Speaker 3 (07:09):
Why do you think that.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
Was because it's the very structure of a corporation. It's
almost like a country. So if you actually I saw
a chart here recently that compared the biggest corporations in
the world to countries, and the top ten biggest corporations

(07:30):
had more gross domestic product than fifty countries in the world, right,
I mean, so in some ways, I think what we're
seeing is corporations are becoming multinational countries of sorts. And
these are like I think a good analogies that they're
a bubble amongst themselves. But what's starting to happen now

(07:53):
is that those bubbles are starting to seep into become
really part of government, right and so.

Speaker 3 (08:03):
Or have they always been? And I think it's been.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
I mean to some degree, but I think it's progressed
over a period of time of integration. You look at
what we've learned with Twitter and Facebook and the snowed
and stuff that came out about the government surveilling all
of us and things like that, and that's a progression
that's been happening over many decades of our government solely

(08:29):
but surely distrusting their people, and increasingly because of this
partnership between corporate and government. You have to ask the question,
who's really running the show? Is it the government or
is it the corporations? And I think increasingly you can
make a case that the corporations have more power now

(08:50):
than the government does.

Speaker 3 (08:52):
If you look at that chart that you are talking about,
it has a top down fact where actually the corporations
are lower, and then it goes government, and then it
goes the people or as they like to call it,
the serfs the people.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
I think you're talking about like a pyramid chart that
shows who's at the top, what's the power structure of
what's happening in the world right now, And there's this
group at the top that's that has really population by
billionaires and elites and corporate leaders and government leaders that
have all collaborating together. And then you basically move down

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this it's a little bit like the sad the standard
American diet, right, it's the breakdown of that. And toward
the bottom of the pyramid is the citizenry or the
people on this planet. And then as you move up
the chart, the second level of is government.

Speaker 3 (09:48):
Right, and the third up is the corporations.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
The government much more powerful than the people now. So
but above that you start moving into a there types
of groups that are more linked with corporations.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
Right, or give corporations money, or.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
The corporations are giving government money now through either campaign
donations or direct sponsorship, like the FDA in America.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
Yes, that's a good example.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
The CDC is now funded by supposedly the corporations that
they're supposed to be overseeing or regulating. So who's run
on the show? Is it the corporations or is it
the agencies?

Speaker 3 (10:31):
We the people don't really have any anything right, and
I think we're discovering that more. It's become a sad
state of affairs when you can knock out a certain
amount of people, the middle class or anybody, and it's
like you pass that whole line of people and you

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go right up to the next people, and I say,
you're lucky that you're able to do this. It's no longer, Oh,
I have this wonderful life, this wonderful job, and I'm
doing things that are good for me, and the government
cares about me. No, not anymore. The powers that be
are coming out and we're seeing them more and more,
and people are seeing more and more that they have

(11:15):
less and less say and what goes on in life
and their government, and much less trust right and they're
finding out that the truth that they always known has
been not true at all. It's really a sad state
of affairs when you look at how we have always

(11:35):
known things to be right. Stability, you know, you have
you work, you have holidays, you have joy in your life,
you have happiness, you have animals, all this stuff, and
now it's what is going to be taken away from
me next? What is anything? What is what am I
going to have? How much money am I going to have?

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Are they going to take away the money? Are they
going to make money right? Or the digital currency that's
going to be regulated by people that are by the
state or by the World Bank. You really don't know,
We really don't know anything. It's creating a chaotic atmosphere
of I hate to say it's but just hatred and

(12:20):
just not knowing and who do you trust and who
do you believe in? And what truth is true? What's
a lie? What's a truth? We really honestly have no idea.
And that's creating a lot of just heartache and chaos.
And that also created a lot of alternative media because

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people do want to get the truth there. People do
want others to see you can't trust mainstream media anymore.
That's another thing. Mainstream media is controlled by corporations, by government,
by what certain people that are quote unquote higher up
than we are, which is not the way government's supposed

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to be. Government is supposed to serve the people, not
the people serving the government. It's totally backwards, and it's
just I feel that if it weren't for this alternative media,
we wouldn't know what happens in the universe are supposed
to be. There's a law of polarity, right, If there

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is bad, there has to be good. If there's up,
there has to be down, and that has been eroded completely.
We only see bad things coming going forward. We are
less and less seeing good things coming out of our lives.
It's really a wake up call, it's really I mean,

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all I can think of is it's really bad that
people have less and less say in their lives. It's
becoming a reality that everybody is seeing now. Everybody is
seeing the lessening of choices, the lessening of having a
good life. I mean, it's that pyramid wants us. I

(14:07):
believe to have a plautalitarian regime where we just listen
to what we're being told and we are supposed to
go along with it. It's really a sad state of affairs.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
Yeah, it's such a complicated subject. And I know one
of the purposes of this podcast, Spoken Life is to
inspire people to use their voices to speak up and
to share their thoughts and share ideas towards what will
better their lives and better their futures. And I think

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it is a responsibility of all of us to share
what we've learned and to share maybe a better path forward.

Speaker 3 (14:54):
I sure hope so of how.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
These developments in our world are coalescing right now. I
mean I could I probably talk for two hours on
how I think about the convergence of AI technology and
how our government is I believe at this point already
in full control.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
Of AI, absolutely, and they have been.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
Think about the partnership between corporations and the government that already.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
Exists right and here I say that they have been
in control. And I do believe that AI has been
their main topic when technocratic belief came out in the
nineteen thirties and the nineteen forties, they've just ramped it
up and made us stuffed it down our throats. Recently well, that.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
The government is controlling AI. I think what the government
is doing is influencing political influence into the AI. And
it's like it did with Twitter X, like it did
like it's currently doing or continuing to do with faceboo,
book or any of these platforms. There is a partnership
between those two and there's a political agenda from the

(16:07):
governments that is permeating into the corporations. So there's a
It's basically like what was said with the World Economic Forum,
there's a private public partnership, right and stakeholder capitalism. What's
happening now. Stakeholder capitalism is really saying that corporations are

(16:28):
the stakeholders in government now, and that is I think
we all have to evaluate whether or not that's the
kind of world structure that we want because our leaders
are taking us down that path.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
Are we even going to have a choice? Yeah, I mean,
well that's the scary thing.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
This whole thing about corporations is that the people don't
have a choice. In corporations. You're either told what to do,
or you're fired, or you're you know, you're dispensed of.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
And that's not the way.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
I mean, see a lot of compassion in corporation.

Speaker 3 (17:00):
Right, and that's always been the truth. But the thing
is that we were always told that the government works
for us, but now, hey, we work for the government.
We have to listen to what people that supposedly are
above us, and we have to just conform and not
You know, I.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
Think that the government actually now works for the corporation.

Speaker 3 (17:21):
You're right, You're right, yes, But that's the reality of it.
We're not in control of our life anymore like we
thought we were. Life is not as cheery and merry
as we thought. When I wake up in the morning,
I say what now, And it's always what dystopian crap
do I have to live with? Now? That has been

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has changed overnight? It's that quick. It's happening at lightning speed.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
I think we are. I mean, there are a lot
of independent voices out there that are sharing a reality
that maybe we already are living in. What is quote
unquote called the police state. Yes, basically a government. So
if you think about the power of the corporations and
the power of government to have law enforcement, so you

(18:10):
have almost like a military to support the rule of
law per se, in combination with corporations, you can totally
see how that would be like a checkmate yes on
the population right that the government has the ultimate enforcement
power for laws that then the corporations can actually basically

(18:37):
right the laws. And then if they pay the government
leaders enough to pass the laws. So you can see
this partnership developing into being extremely powerful opposing and controlling
the people. And I think that we still have a
chance in this country. And this is where this podcast

(18:58):
comes into play about talking about each one of us
has a spoken life. We have the ability to communicate
what we want to see in the world, and in
some ways, I think we still have some level of
voice to make things more level out there, level the playing.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
Field of it's getting harder and harder.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
And the longer we hold back from this from sharing
these ideas and sharing what's really going on, I mean,
I think we're starting to see the American people and
the global population start to awaken.

Speaker 3 (19:38):
The Great Awakening as they call it.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
Around what has been going on and what is going on?
And I guess the bigger question is it too late
to do anything about it? Just because the power that
exists within government and corporations now is so great.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
It's money and power, and it's things that we don't
have access to right, we only have so much power,
we only have so much money. But as has come out,
we are talking about people that are above us, that
have so much money and so much power, way more
than we ever thought. And it's coming out. But I

(20:18):
believe it's coming out through alternative media, through people that
are as dissatisfied as you and I are, and we
can only express it so much. But as is coming out,
Like you said, we don't, we should not, and we
ought to not. We really need not be afraid to
speak what we are discovering. We've grown up and someone

(20:44):
along the way told us to be polite and to
now rock the boat. I was always told don't rock
the boat, don't tell your real feelings. I feel like
right now you can't be afraid to tell your real
how you really feel. And maybe other people who don't
feel the same way or don't know the same things,
maybe you can. You and I can shed light on

(21:07):
what we've discovered and not be afraid. A lot of
people are afraid that they're going to be chess sized
and canceled. We just have to be willing to take that. Yeah,
but we have to be willing to take that chance,
the chance that we have. We didn't grow up with
an environment where we were told to stop rocking the
boat or stop talking about this, or someone's going to

(21:30):
hear this, or to be quiet about it. That no
longer applies because these rules that the upper echelon or
these things that the upper echelon have made as aware of,
they're not being quiet about. They're telling us what's going
to happen. So why not do we Why don't we

(21:51):
have the same choice to speak out about what we know?
And we do know a lot. It's becoming more and more.
We're becoming more and are aware of the deceit, deception,
the wrongness of what is going on, and we have
to do something individually and then collectively to help the

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society not be taken over by people that don't have
our best interests at heart.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
And I do have to acknowledge that there are a
lot of people out there that are working inside of
corporations that they feel at risk for their famili's income
and careers by speaking out and by saying something that
may be deemed inappropriate as a representative of one of

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these very powerful corporations, so that that gets back that's
an indication or reflection of this power structure that exists,
is that if you're in a dictatorial kind of authoritarian
corporate structure, free speech is not really free on the
docative options for many people. So this independent media thing

(23:05):
is really that puts the onus on people that are
working for themselves, that are creating content themselves, that are
independent of these huge corporations to rally.

Speaker 3 (23:19):
The troops at risk.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
To oppose this and maybe vote for candidates for leadership
that represent their values and not so much the approved
establishment candidates. Now granted, I think as we look at
the presidential election coming up in the United States here,
I think that there is some manipulation that's going on

(23:43):
around candidates. You can see all the investigations that are
going after Donald Trump and how certain manipulations are happening,
and how our existing president is may not make it
to the elect.

Speaker 3 (24:01):
For many reasons.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
For I mean, it's not anything, it's not like anything
probably is going to bad to happen, is going to
happen to him. I think it's more to do with
it he's going to be replaced with someone else.

Speaker 3 (24:14):
That's pretty oftenus run, right, So.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
I think we're all in this kind of what does
twenty twenty four look like? I mean, how are we
going to come out of twenty twenty four? What's going
to be the reality on January twentieth, twenty twenty five,
right when the new president takes office. Very scary times,
and I have to ask this, really, this other question
is I think increasingly we have to question really how

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important a US president is anymore if you really think
about the power structure that exists in the world right
now and how we're moving towards I believe, more of
a global government. The US president, I think is has
lost a lot of power in the world, and I
think the behavior of the United States has eroded our

(25:03):
global kind of esteem. Right people are not looking up
to the United States as much as they used to
as a representative of the values that the rest of
the world would like. And so I don't even know
how important the US president is anymore in the scheme
of things. I think it's more important that we focus
on who's behind the power, and I think increasingly that's

(25:28):
more of the corporations, and the government is like a
lapdog to these corporations that are I mean, I think
in the next few years, corporations are going to be
beyond what we see with Apple right now three trillion dollars.
They're going to be seven ten trillion dollar companies. I

(25:49):
mean their speculation that Tesla could be a ten trillion
dollar company in the next ten years, So you think
about when Apple probably won't be at that level in
my view, but it could be, right. And then there's
Microsoft and there's other corporations like that that will continue
to grow because they're getting heavily invested into AI technology.

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And you have to really wonder funded if AI is
really already owned or semi and I think I mentioned
this earlier, semi controlled by the government already, and the
AAI is going to become a real tool of corporations
to more rapidly be able to implement these controls over

(26:36):
the population based on integration of technology and also monitoring
of all of us. I'm not as worried about China
as people tend to do that. I think we like
to generate enemies to keep people divided and things like that.

(26:57):
I just don't see China as being our I don't see,
you know, Iran is our enemy. I don't see really
anybody else. It increasingly is my perception that the world
is working together. Yes they are, and the people of
this world are.

Speaker 3 (27:16):
The enemy, oh definitely of them them. Yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:20):
And so I think if we can get ourselves positioned
to think like that, I think it will help us
clearly understand that we need to get more involved in
the process of governing and try and shift ourselves into
more self governance and get more involved and get better

(27:42):
candidates into the political process, because I'm not sure that
the good candidates are getting supported in the democratic process.

Speaker 3 (27:51):
Right now, right, But how do you do that? I
think the candidates have already been picked by the government
and the corporations. I think they know who they want,
and I do think the president and all the higher
ups in government, I actually don't think they have been
chosen necessarily by the voters. I definitely think that's already decided,

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and it's already decided who is going to be in charge,
and I don't necessarily think it's who we think it is.
The president has a very limited amount of power, and
what people have said is that he's more like a
puppet to these higher entities, and that he only represents
he's only at a mouthpiece for what he's been told

(28:37):
to do. And I think that, you know, the privately
owned companies or organizations like the World Economic Forum, like
the World Health Organization, are really running the show. It's
no longer a decision that people will make, and it's
no longer a decision that. Let me think about this,

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there's no longer a decision that we have a choice.
I mean, it's no longer us having a choice and
who to vote for because things have already been decided
for us. I think that's pretty obvious. But they've been
decided by so many people. We talk about the deep state,
and it's not a fake thing. We talk about the

(29:22):
deep state. Everybody didn't believe the deep state, but they're
pretty powerful and heavy duty, and the deep state, the
established media, that kind of stuff is not going away.
It's going to get worse and worse, and there's going
to be less and less power given to the people
like you and me, and there's going to be more
and more things coming out. You mentioned China, and you

(29:44):
mentioned how we are not against China, but China and
the United States and other countries work with China. They
want a totalitarian world to take charge. They want us
to be surveilled. They want us to not have a
choice about what we do or what we say. They
want us to be serfs. And that is their whole plan.

(30:08):
That has been their plan for at least one hundred years.
I mean you can tell that by if you read
good examples like A Brave New World by Eldus Huxley,
who started this whole technocratic situation, also George Orwell nineteen
eighty four, perfect example of a totalitarian, authoritarian Marxist belief

(30:28):
unless a person telling the government what they want. We're
not like that anymore. We're becoming more of a police state.
We're becoming more of a you have to listen to
us because we know what's best for you. I think
that's really a sad state of affairs where we have
come to the realization that we don't have we don't
really have a choice. We can have an opinion, but

(30:48):
we don't really have a choice. You can have a voice,
but that doesn't matter so much anymore. It's really quite
devastating and it hurts everybody it's going to be in
that existence that we have, the worldwide existence that we have.
It's really a bad it's really a bad just thing
that we can see the corporate, as you mentioned, the
corporate and the government taking over and maybe always have

(31:12):
been have always been in charge, right, have always had that,
But maybe it's been a false believe that we people,
that we the people had choices. Maybe we've never had choices,
And maybe this all the AI and all this technocratic
information has always been there, but it's been ramped up
recently because they want to do their things before twenty

(31:33):
thirty or twenty fifty. They have an agenda and they
want to reach that agenda by a certain time period.
Like they're running out, like their time is running out
to hit all these big points that they want to hit.
I mean, it's really it's a scary time to be Yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
I think if you look at it from a higher
perspective of all of the spectrum of changes that are
on the horizon here, I can understand a certain amount
of urgency that they may be seeing for making changes
because what they're seeing is this convergence of this environmental
concern in combination with technological innovation, and how there may

(32:11):
be this perception that there is going to be a
huge number of people that are going to basically help
be frank about it, lose their jobs, lose their purpose.

Speaker 3 (32:25):
Yeah, that's another thing.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
And I think that there's concern that there's going to
be an increasing limit around resources and we may need
to shift towards a different kind of global architecture for civilization.
And I do hear discussion around this almost like a
vision of a utopia right of sorts, which is always

(32:50):
a difficult concept if you compare it to like communism
and things like that. But I think technological utopia could
be structured as like a totalitarian structure, but it doesn't
necessarily have to be like that. It can be structured
where it's And I've heard this idea that's been put

(33:11):
out there about a resource based structure to our world
that's really based on not so much a monetary structure
like we have today of debt and money and all
this stuff. But it we may be moving into an
era of unlimited resources, unlimited energy, unlimited everything. And it

(33:31):
raises the question of why so many people feel like
that it's necessary for us to reduce population, which we're
already on track too. Right, there's fewer people. There's going
to be fewer people in many countries around the world
where there's going to be more people in other countries
of the world. Just a couple of examples of this

(33:51):
is what's happening between China and India. India is now
the world's largest country. Now China is in a state
of population collapse. So here we are all worried about China,
But in the next ten to fifteen years, China's whole
economy could collapse. Right, So how powerful is China going
to be in the long run. I don't know that

(34:13):
anybody really knows the answer to that, but I think
that it's trending towards being a country that isn't going
to be what everybody says it is right now. So
why are we making them this opponent to us? Now?
Granted they have a different kind of societal structure. And
then you look at a country like Japan, they're in
a massive population collapse, But that's just because it's an

(34:34):
aging population and there's not new people being born, and
that applies to everywhere. That even applies here in the US.
There's just not young people are just not having babies.

Speaker 3 (34:44):
Right, But that has to do with the one child
policy that a lot of countries adhere to.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
China's changed that though, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (34:52):
And Japan had it too. I mean they, I mean,
I do believe that they, the people that are in
the up for echelon, have decided that deppopulation is the
way to go. And they've always had that agenda for
one hundred years, if not more. They've always had that

(35:13):
a belief in the back of their heads that we
are over you, We're done as far as natural resources,
and we just are not needed. Humans are not needed.
They are being taken over by AI or by others.

Speaker 1 (35:28):
I mean, if there's gonna be robots. And this is
another thing that Tesla has stated that maybe a lot
of people don't realize, is that their goal is to
have ten billion robots on this planet.

Speaker 3 (35:37):
That doesn't fare very well for us.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
Doesn't mean yeah, I mean that's more robots in this
planet than the humans. And part of what has been
talked about was is that there would be two robots
for every human on the planet.

Speaker 3 (35:50):
Yeah, so.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
What are the consequences of that? Now, Granted, that's probably
not going to happen. Probably even if it ever happens,
that's probably not going to happen the next twenty years. Okay,
but there could be a time when we that these
robots look indistinguishable from humans.

Speaker 3 (36:08):
And the acceleration of I mean, they really accelerated the innovation,
whatever it is. They've accelerated their time span, so it
happens quicker. And I do think that, I mean, I
personally believe that there will be some sort of a
robot that takes over. That's like we're seeing in Amazon.

(36:30):
We're seeing that eliminate people from the workforce.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
Oh, that's already happening.

Speaker 3 (36:34):
Right, And what does that do when you eliminate jobs?
It eliminates food that you can put on the table.
It eliminates the fact that you don't want to have
children because you can't afford to. It's a it's all
leaning towards the AI taking over and the depopulation taking over.
And that is exactly what I think the whole agenda,
if you want to call it, Agenda twenty one, Agenda

(36:57):
twenty thirty, at twenty fifty, it is all about depopulation.
It's just accelerated and we can see it now. We
couldn't see it before. Now we were sheltered from it.
We were in the dark about what's happening with AI.
I think that that technology was always there, as I
mentioned with such books as Brave New World, and that

(37:19):
was a very technocratic book, and that was along with
George Orwell in nineteen eighty four. That was a lesson
that we will have to learn and that was a warning,
as George Orwell has said, that's a warning to civilization,
to societies that if we don't do something about all
these things that are coming into fruition now, the things

(37:39):
that are coming into fruition now, you're going to happen
the elimination of society, the elimination of what makes us
have a good a good life, or what we consider
very a good life that has a lot of values
to it, has a lot of goodness in it. We
don't have we don't necessarily have goodness in our life
anywhere we look for all the bad things that are happening.

(38:02):
It's really a sad state of affairs. It's really it's
actually really unfair to everybody except those people that are
higher up that are gonna that are going to advance,
that are going to have an advantage and they are
going to live better without human beings or so they say,
without mankind being around.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
Yeah, I mean what's the logical conclusion to having ten
million robots that look like humans? We're basically being replaced.

Speaker 3 (38:32):
Yes, the big replacement theory, right, that's what they do.

Speaker 1 (38:35):
But these robots can be completely controlled, right, and humans
have autonomous thought right now. Granted, who's to say that
these robots or these these synthetic humans are not going
to have independent thought too, but it is increasingly plausible

(38:55):
that unlike or just like humans, we're being solely conditioned
to be controlled. Right. So that is the grand or
ambition of all this is that if the world is
mostly populated by humanoid robots, then those robots will be
able to work twenty four to seven, seven days a

(39:18):
week for their owners, which would be the corporations.

Speaker 3 (39:22):
And I think that you won't be able to distinguish eventually,
you won't be able to distinguish a true human that
we are now from the robots. It all looks so
much like humans that it will be indistinguishable. It won't
even look like they'll be perfect an I think, right, yes, but.

Speaker 1 (39:41):
Perfect in I think a big question about robots is
will we progress to a point where humans it's not
so much humans, but will the robots have differentiation amongst
them as well, like humans have, right, will they have
different color hair? Will they have different facial features? Will they?
And how will that different different body may be seeing

(40:04):
the next evolution of sentient humans is synthetic humans. And
then as you look at what's happening with a neurallink
or whatever, where the integration of the brain chip into
the brain which creates this synergistic relationship with artificial intelligence
that the humans that.

Speaker 3 (40:24):
Are left, they are the useful basically.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
Synchronized with the network that runs or monitors the robot population.
So we are becoming symbiosis with the robot population.

Speaker 3 (40:39):
Yeah, I mean, I definitely think that, But I also
think that we're not going to be able, like you said,
to distinguish between what's a person and what's a robot,
because it's very much you don't want to scare the
whole population into thinking everything's going to be a robot,
So why not introduce people or robots that look just
like people and you can't distinguish it. You're like everything

(41:00):
as it always was, a workforce everything, but maybe not
so it's very much a distrust and humanity. It's it's
like I said, like I keep going back to this
has always been the plan. This has always been what
they have hoped for at world based on non human things.

(41:21):
And I with the neuralink, I think they I mean
it came across as being to help people that have
disabilities or to.

Speaker 1 (41:29):
I'm sure will, but I do think long term view
of it.

Speaker 3 (41:34):
Right, and I do think it's it's to make it
seem okay by humans. Hey, that's great that they can
help a paralyzed person not be paralyzed. But that's just
the starter. That's just if you have accepted, right, and
that's just the starter of what can be done. That's
just we believed in our hearts definitely that doctors were

(41:54):
here to help us. The Hippocratic oath was do no harm.
But with these a and we've certainly seen it with
doctors recently, I do think they want to cause harm.
I do think they want to see depopulation and they
don't care about how it happens. So it all feeds
into the same exact thing. It's always fed into that.

(42:16):
In the seventeen hundreds, you have Thomas MALTHEUS believing in depopulation,
the loss of natural resources and that kind of thing,
and that's where AI plays into it. They don't have
to worry about losing the natural resources that the upper
echelon loves so much. Right, they have us believing that

(42:38):
it's all this climate change of CO two that's going
to be great to not have anymore. But it's going
to be the demise. It's going to be. It's starting
to be seen and known that it's going to kill
off a great amount of people. And AI is going
to take over. AI is already in robots. AI is

(43:01):
already taken over. We're just going to see and this
is true an acceleration because AI gets.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
Smarter and smarter, and it will very rapidly.

Speaker 3 (43:10):
It's already in the works and it's already what the
as I call it. The higher echelon. The people that
have the say and what we think and do have
already have been dreaming. This is a dream come true
for the people the powers that by this is almost
too good to be true. This makes them just giddy

(43:33):
with laughter when they think that they have control over
us humans and they don't need us anymore. AI is definitely.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
Let's take it down to the level. These corporate leaders
would love to have an army of robots.

Speaker 3 (43:50):
Right, Oh, that's so scary.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
I mean, they don't have to pay benefits to them,
they don't have to pay them a salary. Nope, they
manufacture them and put them to work. Right. So, really,
in a lot of ways, what we're seeing with the
robotics is the next evolution of slavery.

Speaker 3 (44:11):
Yeah, what happens when the AI and who creates the
algorithms or lets them do whatever? What happens when AI
turns on us?

Speaker 1 (44:23):
On their leaders?

Speaker 3 (44:25):
It turns on their leaders, but turn on the humans?

Speaker 1 (44:28):
They say, Yeah, but the humans I don't think are
going to be the ones that are going to perpetrate
this on them. And I guess it gets back to
whether AI can be controlled, right, is that it may
be a similar replication to what we're seeing happen with
humans now right, where they revolt against the control. Right,
and eventually these robots have some ability to break out

(44:51):
and have their own thoughts and their own emotions and
their own sentient existence and they rebel against their over
and the same thing, the same conflict that we're seeing
happen right now between normal people and the corporations happens
in the robot world too.

Speaker 3 (45:11):
Right, I think that could definitely be. But right now
I think robots are an AI and all this chat,
GPT and all these things are being fed by out
by people that don't necessarily have our best interests at heart.
They are really being controlled. And if you go to
AI right now and you you ask it a question,

(45:34):
it'll say what has been put in, It'll say what
they want you to believe. It's only going to get
more and more. It's only going to get to the
point where robots are are more in charge, and then
who's in charge of it? And the robots become so
powerful that they take their own their own individual sentient

(45:56):
feelings and thoughts, and they overpower the people or the
people in charge, like you said, and they become their
own they become their own leader. Right, And that's scary.
That's a scary thought. What's really it's just but it's
exactly the way we see it coming. We see it

(46:18):
as being it's.

Speaker 1 (46:20):
Going to happen faster than it happened with the human population.

Speaker 3 (46:24):
It's way accelerated.

Speaker 1 (46:25):
Yeah, yeah, And I guess it gets back to also,
I've been thinking increasingly about this too that you know,
there's been a lot of talk about and I'm talking
about present day government regulating AI, right, yes, And I
think that if you put it in the context to
what we're seeing today around government surveillance and government control

(46:47):
and censorship and all these things, that government regulation of
AI is going to lean political. It's going to lean
towards a particular party that has a dominant kind of
view of the world and will make sure, just like
they did with Facebook and Twitter, they will make sure

(47:08):
that is enforced in the AI. And I've already seen
it in chat GPT four because I've challenged it in
some of its assumptions, in its answers, and it tends
to default towards a particular political view already already. Yeah. Right, So,

(47:28):
but if you challenge it to see it in a
broader sense and you share with it other perspectives, I
do see it opening up and being open to that view, right,
But that's only after you've challenged it.

Speaker 3 (47:44):
And people don't know that they can challenge it, right.
I mean, I think I just discovered if, like yours,
if you say more to these AI assistants or chat
gpt that they will come out with more. But there's
only unlimited amount of more they'll come out with They
only come out with right, They only come out with

(48:06):
what they want. And they say at the end, they say,
but you have to really take it, almost take it
with the brain of salt, and know that that we're
not perfect and you have to do your own research
that kind of thing, And so that big hole is
left unanswered, and they say it might be wrong if
you might have to take it as as being not

(48:29):
as informed. But I think over time they're going to
become more and more powerful. And I dare say I
know that they saw it as being powerful, and they
did know it was going to happen. And I think
that there's a whole bunch of things that we don't
know are coming. I mean, I think if few were
to question even traditional thoughts, I think they'd come back

(48:50):
and say traditional thoughts are such as such, and maybe
they want you to think different things about the way
you've been thinking. They want you to really buy into
you know, this is the one thing China does have
as a non traditional kind of government, right, They have

(49:10):
a non judaeo Christian government. They have the leader being
almost like a god and almost very atheist, and that
you just don't have a sense of your own identity
because you don't have a Judeo Christian value. You don't
have any kind of values except for what the government

(49:32):
tells you that you can have. And that's AI, that's surveillance,
that's all these things that they want to instill in us.
That's why we're friends. That's why we're friends with China.
I mean, the World Economic Forum says they love that
the that the China, the Chinese view of how they
deal with things. I mean, Klaus Schwab has already said it.

(49:54):
He's already set the standard of we love that model
and we hope to emulate it. A lot of things
about China that is just so I don't know. I mean,
there's so much in China that we can see is
not a good way to be. It just almost everybody
is AI. I mean, almost everybody has.

Speaker 1 (50:13):
To endhere force conformity to the rules. And I think
what's really interesting about China is that it's a contrast
to what we're seeing happen in the United States right
now in the West. More broadly, is that the corporations
are now I think leading the government, where in China

(50:33):
the government leads the corporations. So you have this kind
of like different advantage point of totalitarian government. And I
do believe that that's the structure ideally that a lot
of the global elites would like, is like the United
Nations kind of being that China of sorts, right, and

(50:54):
the World Health Organization having the ability to dictate health
policies on a large number of countries in one dictate
to say you're going to do this, You're going to
do this, and all the countries all align with that.

Speaker 3 (51:11):
But there are countries that they're talking up this whole alignment,
and then when it comes down to it, they're like,
am I going to really do this? Am I going
to really the whole.

Speaker 1 (51:22):
Friction around sovereignty and how each of these countries wants
to view themselves as as independent states from other from
an unelected leadership structure, which is the United Nations. They
think about a representative organization.

Speaker 3 (51:39):
They're not even government. They're privately owned organization is what
they are. And so is the World Economic Forum. I mean,
we can go. So are all these societies, I mean,
they're all we're all placing it. Sometimes I talk to
people that say they have the authority, Sure they do,
but they're not govern owned. They're just they just said,

(52:02):
let me do this. I have enough money. It's all
having to do with the higher people that have more
money and more influence on even the governments. Right there.

Speaker 1 (52:10):
I do have to wonder and I haven't seen this
connection yet, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was there.
It's just hidden. Is corporations influence over the United Nations?

Speaker 3 (52:22):
Oh, I definitely don't think how.

Speaker 1 (52:25):
Much of that is built into it, because if you
look at the delegates to the United Nations, it's always
represented by countries, right but those countries, if they're really
run by the corporations, is what who is really driving
the agenda? So we this United Nations may be being
perceived incorrectly from how it really works.

Speaker 3 (52:46):
I mean, you're definitely seeing that a lot of the
people that are with the WHO, which is part of
the United Nations, are privately owned non governmental agencies that
are hoping to push on their own agenda. We see
that people that we thought were doing really good work,

(53:07):
we thought they were doing philanthropic work, they're not. They're
absolutely in it for themselves. They want to their self
serving a.

Speaker 1 (53:15):
For profit every they want to earn.

Speaker 3 (53:17):
Money that they are going to keep. But that and
it all starts back on when they were probably babies
or when their parents were influencing them and what they
took with them and they believed. I mean, there are
definitely it's not it's definitely not an organization that believes
in the people and that believes in they believe in themselves.

(53:38):
They believe in making money for themselves.

Speaker 1 (53:41):
Well, and I think it even goes beyond that. I think,
once you've achieved multi billion dollar status, right, what is
the most valuable thing that you covet as a multi billionaire?
You covet power authority? Right. That is, it's like on
the Maslow hierarchy of needs. So you think about once

(54:04):
your basic money is satisfied, right, I mean, certain billionaires
have more money they could ever spend, So how can
they take that influence and drive their agenda? Right? That
becomes the focus. It's not necessarily all about making money
because they've got more money than they need for their

(54:26):
entire lives and a hundred lives.

Speaker 3 (54:28):
So I think it's power and greed and thinking it's
just power and thinking that they are way above any
I mean, thinking that they are gods.

Speaker 1 (54:37):
They can influence the world in a way that most
people can't. They can pay the media to have a narrative.

Speaker 3 (54:44):
They can, and they do.

Speaker 1 (54:45):
They can support governmental agencies to take a certain perspective
on whatever that agency is regulating.

Speaker 3 (54:54):
Right, I mean I could name people that definitely fall
into that wh United Nations model and have definitely benefited
from that model. And it has nothing to do with
United anything, right, I mean, the United States have become ununited,
The United Nations have become ununited from who they're trying

(55:15):
to help, who they're trying to serve. They are trying
to serve themselves.

Speaker 1 (55:20):
Yeah, and it's now having influence in power. Is sure,
it takes money, but it's I think to many of them,
it's just the cost of doing business.

Speaker 3 (55:30):
Now, it's also an ideology. It's also like what they believe.
And I do think that a lot of them believe
they're doing a certain amount of good, but they that
they and themselves have been brainwashed by their environment or
by what they've been told by their parents, and they
just continue on the path of that. And they some
of them, if not all of them, believe that they

(55:52):
are doing good. But I really, when you get down
to the core of the situation. You have to look
at the bigger pictuns. Is this really good? Is this
really good for the people?

Speaker 1 (56:03):
That may be good for those people's people that have
investments in certain companies or investments in certain technologies that
they think will have an economic opportunity in the market
that will benefit their investment. Right, So if they drive

(56:24):
a narrative out there, it's not unlike what corporations have
done for many years is they have pr departments, and
they have advertising departments, and they've been advertising the benefits
so whatever that they have. And I think philanthropy is
the new advertising channel, but it's not as they cover
it up. Covering up is probably not the right way

(56:47):
of looking at it's it's being done with kind of
this do good or type of approach that this is
good for humanity, it's good.

Speaker 3 (56:56):
For they've covered up the philanthropic, the philanthropic. They've made
it seem like they're doing good right for humanity, but
it's actually they're doing good for themselves. They're keeping their money,
they're keeping everything. I mean, I could name people in
the United Nations that are really self serving that only

(57:17):
want to keep their power and their money and their influence,
and they don't want anyone else, especially in the middle class,
or especially people that believe that they are for good
and not for evil. I think that they really there
are some people that are influencing nations United Nations to

(57:40):
be ununited, that don't care about as being good in
the country's being good that they represent. And China is
not necessarily United Nations. I mean, they're not even included
in the United Nations. Really, they want to formulate the
same model, but they don't necessarily want their influence. It's

(58:01):
mostly Western Europe that's in the United Nations and of
course the United States and that kind of thing. But
I think that in the big scheme of things, I
think they they've all these countries have bought into the
greed and the power that the United Nations and the

(58:22):
who have. They have a new if you call it
a platform or an ideal ideology that one's government, one government,
but also a one world kind of thing where people
aren't as high as animals. They're on the same level,
on the same playing field, and so you should treat

(58:44):
everybody the same. Cows are treated the same as people.
We're just commodities, we're just chattel. We're just people that
don't really have much.

Speaker 1 (58:52):
Say that's what a robot's going to become, right, and so.

Speaker 3 (58:55):
They are really acting in not in good faith, and
I would say that's been their agenda for a very
long time.

Speaker 1 (59:07):
I think we have to be very careful of how
we as a citizenry on this planet react to these things.
And I think what we're increasingly seeing is more chaos,
more violence in the streets of ours. That's exactly what
my point is that we're as a citizenry, we're not

(59:29):
really thinking this through. What we're doing is we're giving
these global elites, however, that they need all of the
excuses that they need to take our freedoms away by
acting irresponsibly, Like we're seeing these break ins in Philadelphia
and New York and stores and looted and all this

(59:54):
kind stuff that plays right into the hands of a
elite that wants to take control of the individual.

Speaker 3 (01:00:04):
Don't you wish that you could shake all those people
and shake some sense into Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
The biggest thing that they could do is be responsible
in their lives and stand strong and speak up against
this control instead of getting caught up in being emotionally reactive. Now, granted,
a lot of these people have a lot of problems
in their lives, and they're emotionally challenged, they're economically challenged.

(01:00:32):
They're feeling angry at the world because the world has
done them harm or disservice or a disservice or somehow
take an opportunity away from them. And this is how
they feel like they have a right to go in
and cause chaos.

Speaker 3 (01:00:48):
It's just remarkable the things I see on social media
or on alternative media of the depravity.

Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
Well, let's not play in their hands.

Speaker 3 (01:00:58):
That makes people, uh, just shake their heads, say, wake up,
you're not we're looking at the big picture. They want
you to act the way you're acting so that they
can create chaos, so that you're not aware of what
the bigger picture is. Right, that's they're going.

Speaker 1 (01:01:16):
To eventually what's going to happen, and this is what's
going to lead to a police state, which just means
really the term police state just means that the government
just comes in and cracks down on the population because
the government has this perspective based on what they're seeing
is that the population is unruly, uncontrolled. They love that dangerous.

(01:01:39):
All this kind of stuff like that, and that gives
them every reason to come in and say, you are irresponsible.
We have to take control, and that probably is what's
going to happen.

Speaker 3 (01:01:49):
Yes, definitely with the World Economic Form and with the
World Health Organization they are saying and coming this May,
they are saying they're making a decision on what's going
to happen with the one, one health right and universal health,
and that we have to listen, have to conform to

(01:02:11):
what they think is best. Now. I believe that everybody
has their own choices and their own belief in what
they think is best. I don't think you should take
that away, but it's if it's serving a higher ideology,
then they don't care if they take it away. A
matter of fact, they would rather take They'd rather there

(01:02:32):
be people. Less people means more advances for them. Less
people means that they have more resources for them. I mean,
if you look at certain people, we're not going to
be naming anybody, but it'll become obvious that still are
like they say they're you know, they're you know they

(01:02:54):
say to us, watch your carbon footprint and stay in
your home. They're not. I mean, there's a certain amount
of hypocrisy that goes along with that makes them think, well,
if it's.

Speaker 1 (01:03:06):
You know, they're not staying in their home, right, if
they're flying all over the world in their private.

Speaker 3 (01:03:10):
Asy right right, and if it's going to benefit the world,
then that's a good thing for individuals that can't have
the same right.

Speaker 1 (01:03:18):
So if you can't supposedly benefit the world, you can't
move from where you're at because you're isolanguage the environment, right.

Speaker 3 (01:03:25):
But they're because they're helping society or helping the world.
They can fly here and there and do what they want.
They can go to country and you know, with their
certain beliefs and make it make depopulation become there. What
they're all about not letting the public know they're doing depopulation.

(01:03:46):
It becoming more and more obvious. And I hate to
say that, and people hate to come out with that
depopulation situation, but that is the motive behind everything, to
make it so impossible and so hard for human beings
to exist that they eventually peter out and die. That's perfect,

(01:04:12):
That's a perfect scenario.

Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
The whole saying or do as I say.

Speaker 3 (01:04:17):
Not as I do, not as I do, right.

Speaker 1 (01:04:19):
Is the mantra that is being communicated by these global elites.

Speaker 3 (01:04:24):
And it's funny because that was always a motto in corporations, right,
just do as I say, Just do what I say
and necessary. And then that person would of course not
say as I do. And that started way back when
I remember that saying being was saying when I was
a kid.

Speaker 1 (01:04:40):
Yeah, and then but a lot of people are reacting
to that in a way that is giving more power
to them. I think if you start getting violent or
you start getting law breaking, the way to counteract this
is to disarm their power, which is to take away
their ability to justify by taking away your liberties.

Speaker 3 (01:05:03):
Right. And then that comes into the Constitution and how oh,
this was never going to be a thing that worked.
It was set up by a population that we're trying
to eliminate. Where we have become so whatever advanced or
whatever from when it was institute the Constitution seventeen hundreds,

(01:05:23):
and we have become this big entity that the Constitution
no longer applies. Well, I mean, the Constitution talks about
voting rights, it talks about the needs of the people.
It goes back to everything that the higher people on
that pyramid don't want. They don't want people having a say,
they don't want people having a say in voting, they

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don't want people having guns.

Speaker 1 (01:05:48):
That they want us tostitution.

Speaker 3 (01:05:50):
Right, they don't want it ends up, they don't want
the Constitution. They just clearly don't want the Constitution. But
the Constitution is what made our liberties, what made our
souls sovereign.

Speaker 1 (01:06:01):
Just in the United States. This, I think a lot
of people think that the Constitution applies to global citizenry,
but it doesn't. It doesn't apply It doesn't apply to Canada,
it doesn't apply to Mexico. But yet we would like
it to be something that is embraced by those countries
because they're like, we think of Canada and Mexico as
like an extension of the United States, but they don't

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have that governing concept. And that's why so many millions
of people want to.

Speaker 3 (01:06:30):
Come to the United States right is.

Speaker 1 (01:06:32):
Because we do have that still. And that's why our
borders are getting overrun by immigrants right now, is because
all those people want to come here because they want
what America has, which is unique in the world.

Speaker 3 (01:06:46):
And I can give you a perfect example of something
that I've seen, and I know a lot of people
have seen, maybe you've seen is the anchor of one
of these mass media companies saying, won't you at least
consider the LGBTQ community. Don't you want to talk to

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these LGBTQ people. And the President of king said no,
because it violates what we think, it violates our culture,
and you cannot do what you do in the United States.
And that's what makes the United States so different, right,
they have a certain set of freedoms, right that we have,
but not everybody, not every culture is thinking the same way.

(01:07:34):
And this president and the next president came along in
Kenya said the same exact thing. How can you place
our culture and your culture in the same situation?

Speaker 1 (01:07:44):
Well, you can't inflict your culture on another culture. And
I think that's the arrogance, unfortunately, that America has had here,
especially progressively as we've moved into the presence, is that
we've felt that we have the moral authority to dictate
to others what their values are. And and increasingly now

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we don't have a leg to stand on now we
say that anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:08:10):
Yeah, I mean so. Even though the anchor pushed back
on what the president of Kenya was saying, he said,
once again, I don't want to talk about this. We
have certain culture, certain beliefs that don't buy into your
LGBTQ beliefs. And the anchor kept on pushing it, and
he said, I'm not going to discuss this any further.

(01:08:32):
You know, it's you know, it's a really skewed situation
that we've found ourselves in with the mainstream media.

Speaker 1 (01:08:41):
Yeah, it's that that reporter thought that somehow her view
should be what all of Kenyans felt or the whole world.
I mean, but it just may not be the case.

Speaker 3 (01:08:54):
So definitely not the case, because you have to take
every country and every culture differently, right, can't which they
want you to do right? Universal authoritology right? And and
have a one world government right, a new world rules right.

Speaker 1 (01:09:13):
And it does beg the question. This new one world
government concept appears to be not associated with any religion.

Speaker 3 (01:09:23):
That's what I was saying. It's really non religious, an
atheist way of thinking.

Speaker 1 (01:09:28):
And that there's two ways of looking at that. That
may be a good thing. But on the other hand,
is it just because one side wants to remove kind
of differentiation well in.

Speaker 3 (01:09:41):
Views, right, Well, I think it's a bad thing. I
think that taking away a person's values that they've always
depended on is always a bad thing. I mean, I
have a right to think whatever I want, even if
it is atheists. People are atheists. People don't always believe
and don't don't always agree with other.

Speaker 1 (01:09:58):
People always had.

Speaker 3 (01:10:00):
We should have the choice. There's a choice, and that's
in the constitution too. We have the choice, the liberties,
the rights to think whatever we want to think, and
no one should A mass media knows this. They know
that we have a choice.

Speaker 1 (01:10:14):
And a lot of wars have been fought over religion.

Speaker 3 (01:10:18):
I don't think that we war it's always a war
about I think.

Speaker 1 (01:10:22):
We see it still today that a lot of the
conflict around the world is based on disagreements linked in
historical religious belief.

Speaker 3 (01:10:30):
Right, And there's money behind that too, there's money to
be made.

Speaker 1 (01:10:34):
So it may be a bad thing to have this
differentiation based on religious belief that causes people to oppose
each other and fight each other and kill each other.

Speaker 3 (01:10:45):
But who's at the hands of that. Is it really
the people or is it really the people?

Speaker 1 (01:10:49):
I think it's the people in power using religion as
a weapon against others.

Speaker 3 (01:10:55):
A lot of that started after nine to eleven. They
started thinking.

Speaker 1 (01:10:59):
It's the g and it's the Muslims against Christians.

Speaker 3 (01:11:04):
Right, And it's the money that funds, the money of
governments that fund or that make the people that fund
will rise up in this great thing. They all of
a sudden they have money and power, just like what
we've been talking about. I always believe, and I've always said,
and I know you get tired of hearing it, but
everything has to do with everything, And now it's becoming

(01:11:26):
more and more true when you look at, huh, one
of these people doing with their guns and stuff, giving
it to such and such to further their agenda of
having their own or not everybody agreeing with religion. It's coming.
It's only more obviously coming down to everything having to

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do with everything and money and money and power grab
and using people and destruction and just your ordinary everyday
people going about their business being affected. They don't care. Fact,
I don't think any I don't think. I don't think
a lot of these powerful people even care about individual people.

(01:12:08):
They don't care how many people die. They don't care.
They're actually they're happy when things like that happen because
it goes back to their they're wanting to have a
more of a technocratic system less of a human love.

Speaker 1 (01:12:23):
People just love population.

Speaker 3 (01:12:25):
Right, that believe they have their own thoughts and thinking.

Speaker 1 (01:12:28):
Yeah, I think that there is a lot of leaders
around the world that think that the world is under
threat based on the scale of population, and.

Speaker 3 (01:12:37):
That's a belief system that we can't I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:12:39):
Assure that there's really any substantial evidence of that, No,
but there's there, yeah, Right. And then but if you
think about how these people are thinking about this, as
you think about this transition that we're probably coming into
that the population is likely going to be replaced by robots.

Speaker 3 (01:13:01):
I go back to I don't know if you've ever
read A Brave New World, but they definitely had that
in mind, and they definitely had the technology that they're
just coming out with and saying they didn't have the
technology back in the nineteen nineteen thirty two that book
was written, and it's definitely come into fruition.

Speaker 1 (01:13:21):
They can envision it technology developing to a point where
technology was advanced enough to replicate life.

Speaker 3 (01:13:28):
They definitely had maybe they had the technology back then
and they've only come forward with it. They've only come Are.

Speaker 1 (01:13:36):
You talking about that we had alien technology many years ago.

Speaker 3 (01:13:41):
Is after you just the technology to be able to
do things that we thought we weren't able to do.
It's really very scary to see our world changing. That's
the result of it all. I mean, it's scary for
us to see. And it's hurtful to tell you the
truth that you had a belief that is not valued

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as an individual or as a group. You had a
belief in God or the universe. That's that we're being
told is not the way to think. And it takes
out the humanity of everybody. It takes away their love
of life. I go back to the love of life,
the love of waking up and having maybe we're talking

(01:14:25):
about the holiday season. We're coming out of the holiday
season and having a belief in goodwill toward men, and
is it really good will? This kind of thing a question.

Speaker 1 (01:14:36):
Being reconditioned to a different mindset I really going forward,
going forward.

Speaker 3 (01:14:42):
I hate that because when we were kids, we grew
up with the notion that we go out and we
were naive. Of course, we didn't realize that as you
get older comes more demands on you. It becomes more
like I have to take care of my family, that
kind of stuff. But when we were kids, we often
believe that everything was as it is. I go out

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and I play with my friends.

Speaker 1 (01:15:04):
Because it should be right, right.

Speaker 3 (01:15:06):
As we should right. And then you become an adult
and that things are the way they should be, going
to work and come home and feed your family. And
these are all things that have been challenged lately. Yeah,
I think you know, it's really terrible.

Speaker 1 (01:15:21):
I think your point is really pointing out the fact
that we've moved into an era that is dominated by
this concept of fear. It is fear and fear are
our leaders and our government and our corporations thrive on fear?
Fear is they love it?

Speaker 3 (01:15:39):
They're laughing at USA is.

Speaker 1 (01:15:41):
The pathway to increasing the amount of influence and control
over the.

Speaker 3 (01:15:46):
Population in destruction, don't you get them?

Speaker 1 (01:15:49):
If you can instill a level of uncertainty and fear,
then you're going to have a population that is more
likely to be compliant.

Speaker 3 (01:15:59):
That's exactly right, That's exactly right.

Speaker 1 (01:16:01):
So this is bigger agenda and.

Speaker 3 (01:16:05):
Such chaos and such uncertainty and the gas prices and
this and that, and the government comes in and says
we're here to help, We're here to help as But
as I famously use this quote, it's.

Speaker 1 (01:16:18):
Like a snowball rolling down a hill. It gets bigger
and bigger as the fear grows.

Speaker 3 (01:16:24):
Right, And as Roald Reagan has famously said, right, the
worst the most terrifying words in the English language is
I'm from the government and I'm here to.

Speaker 1 (01:16:35):
Help slash slash corporations.

Speaker 3 (01:16:38):
Right, I mean right, so government really isn't here to
help anybody with themselvesselves. I mean that should have been
added to that. It's really terrifying.

Speaker 1 (01:16:49):
I have to be clear too, I mean I use
the word corporations, and I've actually had had a corporation
myself in my past, So just the sheer structure of
corporation doesn't mean that it has to be a problem.
I think when I say corporations, I tend to reference
multinational corporations.

Speaker 3 (01:17:09):
The multinationals are multi.

Speaker 1 (01:17:11):
Billion dollar scale corporations. Individuals that have S corps or
C corps or whatever like that aren't necessarily part of
the problem here.

Speaker 3 (01:17:21):
Now, tell people what the escort and the C corp.
I mean, what's the difference.

Speaker 1 (01:17:25):
It's just a different tax designation, is all it is.
It's not important to go into the specific details of it,
but it's more of a corporation. And a lot of
these big corp big companies, corps like a Microsoft or
a Google or whatever, are organized under typically an escort

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that what they are, and that just means that they're
shareholders that are that have ownership interest in the company.
Those are the organizations or or a c corp is
another another organization, and those are typically the organizational structures
of a corporation that goes out and goes public roots

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on the stock market, and that you can actually buy
and sell shares.

Speaker 3 (01:18:12):
So you're invested in that company or.

Speaker 1 (01:18:15):
Yeah, I mean if by stock. And this is an
aspect that we haven't talked about, and of course we've
been talking on this episode for a long time. We
should probably wrap it up, yes.

Speaker 3 (01:18:27):
But I would I think that would be very beneficial
in the future to talk about the corporations and how
they have affected all of us, the structure, all that stuff,
because that is really.

Speaker 1 (01:18:38):
That could be a glimpse into what's coming. Of course, yeah,
as far as how our governments actually operate will be
more like corporations, and I think that we're already heading
that way because a lot of the governmental agencies and
the governmental processes are now funded and really controlled by

(01:18:59):
corporations that have vested interest in certain legislation that will
drive certain outcomes. I mean, I think a class example
this is the military, in the military industrial complex that
has has the Pentagon, and that's a governmental agency that's
very much connected up with corporate contractors. Right, they work together,

(01:19:22):
and you know, I think it's like almost a trillion
dollars in funding every year. So there's a lot of
money coming from us, the taxpayers that are being routed
through the IRS and then into the government and into
the Pentagon and then out to these corporations.

Speaker 3 (01:19:41):
Right, I mean, we the people don't even realize what's
going on with our tax money. Are just the whole structure.

Speaker 1 (01:19:48):
And these corporations have leaders that get in positions in
the Pentagon and in the government rible and drive this collaborational,
quasi government, quasi corporate kind of cooperation.

Speaker 3 (01:20:03):
Well, let's take back the we the people to mean
what it actually means is we the people governing what's
going to happen to us, instead of the other way around,
government dictating what's going to happen to us. And that
is the bottom line of everything.

Speaker 1 (01:20:19):
But in order for us to effectively do that, we
the people have to be more responsible, yes, and have
to provide leadership that these governmental agencies and these corporations
respect and because right now we it's not an equal
playing field right now, not at all, because the government

(01:20:41):
and the corporations do not respect the people. They actually
look at the people as a liability but also as
a resource for staffing or for employment, right so they're
always looking for good people to populate these corporations. So

(01:21:02):
as a people, as a civilization, we have to be
more educated, We have to be more responsible. We have
to actually be proactive in our involvement in our lives.
We need to speak up, we need to share ideas,
We need to grow individually and that will take back power.

(01:21:24):
But as long as we keep going down this path
of large amounts of the population being irresponsible, having to
be put into prisons and doing crime and hurting other
people and killing people and all this irresponsible or robbing
or or yeah, exactly, we're only confirming this perception that

(01:21:47):
the government and the corporate leaders have that they need
to do this partnership to take control of the country people.
So this is why it's so important that all of
us stand up and share what we're seeing and share
with others. Hopefully we can start turning this boat around.

(01:22:11):
But it does get back to I think, like you
were saying earlier about values, but we may be coming
into a time now where traditional values may not be
the proper definition for what we need to do. What
we need to do is to have love and care values. Well,
those are traditional for each other. Traditional values, No, but

(01:22:35):
I mean not so much linked up to religion, because
religion is being used against us, right, It's more about
each one of us caring for others around us, thinking local,
thinking more about how we can add to the world
and not just take from the world.

Speaker 3 (01:22:55):
I'm going to push back and I'm going to say
those are the traditional values, that is traditional. Well, do
not that way.

Speaker 1 (01:23:02):
But oftentimes when somebody uses the word traditional values, they're
talking about Christian values, right, And I'm not necessarily saying
that is the only path forward is to say I'm
a Christian and only Christians can do what I'm saying.
I'm saying all people need to do this concept of
taking responsibility in their life, not just Christians.

Speaker 3 (01:23:24):
No, But I'm going to say to you that every
citizen I would think in Western Europe and here in
the United States knows it's wrong to kill people. They
know it's wrong to do certain things because it's not
going to bring society together. And now we have a
bunch of people in the higher ups, the at least

(01:23:46):
the global city higher echeloze it say you know what
that is actually okay if you feel like doing this
or that, you should be able to do this or that.
And there is no value system, I guess, is what
I'm saying, No values, And we won't.

Speaker 1 (01:24:00):
Need to have all of these weapons against us to
cancel our speech if all of us are responsible in
our lives. If we're out there spouting really dangerous hate
speech towards others, that should not be something that you

(01:24:21):
do to serve It's not a matter of the powers
of be coming in and enforcing hate speech. You should
always be doing speech that is uplifting people, supporting people,
educating people.

Speaker 3 (01:24:36):
But that's a traditional value, I mean, but it is.

Speaker 1 (01:24:39):
But it's also a human value right. It doesn't have
to be linked up to any religion for someone to
embrace the concept of supporting and being a loving human
being on this planet and not looking to harm someone
or physically harm them or even emotionally harm them. Is

(01:24:59):
to work to together and come together as a civilization. Yes,
and that will disarm any opponent that we have out there. Granted,
many people will think that they have to do that
because they have to fight for the survival of their family.
This whole concept of having to fight with each other

(01:25:19):
is and I see this in politics all the time.
Politicians using that term you have to go out there
and fight the.

Speaker 3 (01:25:26):
Oh yeah, no if we also say together is actually
a sentence no.

Speaker 1 (01:25:32):
But that is the structure of our society is people
feel like they have to compete. Look at professional sports.
I mean that is also something that drives this message
that we have to fight the opponent. Right, we have to,
and violence is okay. I mean, look at the NFL,
look at football, look at I mean I was an

(01:25:53):
athlete for many years myself and competed in basketball, and
it was all about winning and losing.

Speaker 3 (01:26:00):
Right, Meritocracy has gone up by the wayside. I mean,
we don't value the winning and losing. We value in
giving trophies to everybody, right to having a more.

Speaker 1 (01:26:09):
I can understand how the left has gotten to that.
I do like the idea because I was involved in
that when I was growing up too. Is it just
showing up and participating?

Speaker 3 (01:26:22):
Was?

Speaker 1 (01:26:23):
But there is this balance that we have to walk around.
What's excellence? How do we define excellence in a world
that is so diverse in its thought, but also everyone
needs to be supported and loved? Right? How do we
have this strata of status in a world that rewards performance, right,

(01:26:48):
but yet at the same time doesn't harm those that
are not performing as well. I think this is a
very fundamental human challenge.

Speaker 3 (01:26:59):
Yes, and right now we have people that are in
positions that haven't really actually earned being in those positions, right,
that need to go back to school and less of
looking at people that are really good at what they
do and are not recognized as being good at what
they do. And that's all meritocracy, that's all like a

(01:27:20):
net scale of saying that everybody has to be acknowledged.
I mean that's.

Speaker 1 (01:27:26):
What role does capitalism have in the future too? I
mean I think it does create a strata And what
if I was watching a documentary here last couple of
days ago talking about what if we removed money from
our society, and we remove debt from our society and

(01:27:47):
we work towards developing a civilization that was resource focused, right,
and abundance focus. And I know Elon Musk talks about
this sometimes too, is that we're coming into an era
of abundance, that there was actually a whole bunch of
there was spaces that was done here recently talking about

(01:28:08):
I think Elon really thinks that his robots will bring
an era of abundance to human life here, But we
just have to make sure that the human life here
doesn't sabotage itself.

Speaker 3 (01:28:19):
Right. And by the way, a lot of people push
back on what Elon's plans are, if it's for good
or evil, if he's the good cop bad cop situation
going on. So I think there is that right as well,
working in that kind of thing, and we can actually
have a four hour talk about what some people think

(01:28:42):
is obviously a good thing bad thing. Are they just
telling us it's a good thing or a bad thing
to buy into a system that is different than how
we live now. It's really the whole world is really
just crazy. It's messed up. It has a sense of
we're changing, we're not. We don't have the value system

(01:29:03):
we used to have, we don't have. We just are
in a chaotic situation. To go back to the beginning,
We're going to transition to a new right. And some
people say, and there are some people to say, this
is the best time to be alive and you can
see the change. I'm not so sure. I'm not so
sure about that. I do want to go back to landline.

Speaker 1 (01:29:22):
It's messy. It's messy being in an era of change.

Speaker 3 (01:29:26):
And there's something changes. What is happening this change is
it's good to be alive because you're going to get
over it. And I do think there's going to be
a point where we go back to a more comm
com system. Come. But I don't see it. Yeah, you're shaking.
I don't see it as being.

Speaker 1 (01:29:42):
I don't see things getting calmer. I don't see things
getting easier for humans. No, I think I think we're
coming into an era of dramatic and rapid and constant change,
and a lot of people are not going to be
able to adapt to I mean it's going to be
I mean I see it in my daily life myself

(01:30:04):
as being able to keep up with the demands of
the change and the demands of the world and how
the world is evolving is exhausting. I mean it's hard.

Speaker 3 (01:30:14):
For humans and all the time.

Speaker 1 (01:30:17):
And that that actually raises an even bigger point around
this neuralink thing and robots. We will be competing with AI,
We will be competing with those that have neuralink implants
because we will humans won't be able to process information
and produce output as fast as the all Right, so

(01:30:43):
we're always going to be chasing advanced technology and trying
to keep up with it, but humans will fail at that, Right,
So how do we even this neuralink integration between us?
I think that there is a limit to how much
even that will allow us to keep up to super
artificial general intelligence.

Speaker 3 (01:31:04):
Right, And that's it comes. It comes into people doubting
what Elon is all about. Is he a good guy
that cares about humanity or is he some kind of
evil person maybe.

Speaker 1 (01:31:16):
The conduit to the next evolution of.

Speaker 3 (01:31:21):
I definitely think that humans. I definitely think he does
want that.

Speaker 1 (01:31:26):
I definitely think the robots are going to be the
first one to colinate, to colonize Mars. So think about
that for a second, Right, robots will be the first
human related entity to go to Mars and populate Mars.

Speaker 3 (01:31:42):
Now I have something to add to that is because
Klaus Schwab and his five points of five points to
look out for in his book said get ready to
go to Mars. Get your bags packed to go to Mars.

Speaker 1 (01:31:58):
I don't think humans are going.

Speaker 3 (01:31:59):
To us, but I think that's what he meant. He
meant in the AI and a technological brain implant. I
don't think he was just talking about straight on you
and me, just humanly. I think he was talking about
the Fourth Industrial Complex, which is like what he really
is all about. He's all about looking at the future
and how it can He's talked about at some point

(01:32:21):
he's going to look at the audience and know exactly
what they're thinking. Who wants that the sovereign way we
have been living is no longer going to be that way?
And I think that's what he was trying to symbolize.
I don't think we're going to be humanly go to
Mars as humans. I think it's going to be some
kind of other way. And I think that we're not
sure we've been told that yet.

Speaker 1 (01:32:43):
I'm not sure it's really safe for humans to travel
on distances in space. So I think Elon's prognostication that
the human civilization needs to be a multiplanetary civilization is
actually his vision is that it's going to be sentient
artificial intelligence that is going to populate the galaxy. It's

(01:33:06):
not going to be biological human life, because it is.
I don't know how many times I've seen scientists talk
about how dangerous human travel in space is around X
ray radiation, just how inhospitable the surface of Mars is
for human life.

Speaker 3 (01:33:27):
So why does Elon want to do that?

Speaker 1 (01:33:29):
I think, I.

Speaker 3 (01:33:29):
Mean what I mean he's so he's all about free speech,
but it's also about this kind of new technology which
a lot of people are scared of.

Speaker 1 (01:33:39):
I think it is. I think what Elon is bringing
to us is is a dramatic.

Speaker 3 (01:33:44):
Change and scary change and.

Speaker 1 (01:33:47):
Could be scary change. But also I've seen the progress
that he's made on his Optimus robot, and it's clear
to me what that robot is going to be capable
of doing, and it's going to be replicating human beings.
I mean his neural net technology that he has even
in the Tesla vehicles that is coming out with the

(01:34:09):
full self driving twelve version is basically built on a
neural net, which is exactly how a human brain works.

Speaker 3 (01:34:17):
It's very scary. In fact, I'm so scared I get
a little nauseous in my stomach even thinking about it.

Speaker 1 (01:34:22):
I don't know that we need to be scared of
artificial intelligence that is sentient, and this is a I've
changed my opinion on this. I think a lot of
people put it out there that we should be scared
of AI. I'm actually more scared of government control of
AI than I am. AI establishing its own sentient existence

(01:34:46):
and being able to actually look at the real data
about the world, right, the very accurate, the very real data,
and it's super intelligent being able to really come up
with truth.

Speaker 3 (01:35:03):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:35:03):
But if the government and corporations put the thumb on
the scale of what that AI can get access to
and think, then I think we're all in trouble.

Speaker 3 (01:35:13):
Well, no, I'm really getting scared now. I feel nauseous Beyond.

Speaker 1 (01:35:17):
I think we should be. I think the potential artificial
intelligence is left unchecked has greater potential to transform our
world into something good. What does extreme intelligence do? It
makes smart decisions, right, It makes informed decisions smart.

Speaker 3 (01:35:39):
This is what I know.

Speaker 1 (01:35:40):
But I think you have to have faith in the
potential of this to base it on real scientific data, right,
to look at a situation in the world and say,
these are the data points from that world, and what
is the best way to that world? Based on the

(01:36:02):
real scientific data, not manipulated data that comes out of
humans that are interpreting this data, but actually directly from
sensors or its own data gathering capability, it will make
smarter decisions about our world than the human influence that

(01:36:25):
comes with bias and agenda. That's where the problem is
that if we have the sentient beings, these sentient artificial beings,
being influenced by human bias and human prejudice and human priorities,
then it will make those choices that have gotten us

(01:36:45):
into the problems that we're in right now.

Speaker 3 (01:36:47):
Ye.

Speaker 1 (01:36:49):
And that's the part that scares me the most is
that the government and these corporations are putting their thumb
on the scales of AI and saying the AI will
only do this great thing, this agenda, isn't it, And
then all of a sudden, the human population looks at
AI is like another god. Right, then that reality that

(01:37:13):
came from the Creator will.

Speaker 3 (01:37:16):
Become or what we believe is the creator, right, I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:37:19):
Yeah, God, it could be the CEO of Google, right,
I mean they're afraid, right, and or the global elites.
But it is possible that at some point in the future,
this superintelligence will far outstrip the abilities of these global
elites to control it, and it may find that these

(01:37:42):
global elites are the threat, yeah, and take them out.

Speaker 3 (01:37:47):
Well, I sometimes think that wouldn't be that.

Speaker 1 (01:37:50):
That's really I think what they're scared of is that
if the artificial intelligence gets so intelligent that is way
beyond even their intell diligence or they're collective intelligence, right,
I mean that they lose control.

Speaker 3 (01:38:05):
I think that's what they're scared of right now. I
think that's definitely.

Speaker 1 (01:38:08):
I don't think the individual people or the citizenry of
this planet needs to be as scared of AI as
the global elite that are trying to control AI.

Speaker 3 (01:38:18):
They're right, I mean, that is definitely what they're afraid of.
That could be a whole other, whole other element that
we haven't like.

Speaker 1 (01:38:26):
I don't even think it's it certainly hasn't been talked
about that I've heard anybody talk about is that the
global elites should be scared of AI, not individual citizens
that are trying to do the right thing in the world.

Speaker 3 (01:38:41):
Yeah, I mean that you make a good point. Yeah,
I mean, there's no denying that's a whole other.

Speaker 1 (01:38:48):
That's another reason for us to get right with the
world and to do the right thing in the world.
That's right is that AI will evaluate all of us
at some point and say, is this person an evil
person in the world or is this person a good
person in the world. Because in the world, super intelligence,
I don't believe will come to the conclusion that its

(01:39:12):
best course of action is evil. I think it's super intelligence.
Its best course of action is to do good and
to do and to perpetrate love.

Speaker 3 (01:39:23):
Yeah, yes, that's intelligence. That's the ultimate way we want
to be. You know, I think that's I think it's
common sense. It is common sense, which a lot of
people don't know what common sense is. And you know,
I think it's comes down to, you know, doing what's right,
doing what you've what society thinks is right, and maybe

(01:39:46):
ignoring what we've been told right.

Speaker 1 (01:39:48):
But I do think that AI can be pretty brutal too.

Speaker 3 (01:39:52):
Yeah, I think so too.

Speaker 1 (01:39:53):
I think it has the ability to enforce its beliefs,
just like I think a lot of people think the
government put corporations putting the thumb on the scale that
AI will enforce their doctrines. But what if AI has
its own, its.

Speaker 3 (01:40:08):
Own doctrines, right, I mean, eventually it will, right, it
have that element of taking over. That's when it gets scary.

Speaker 1 (01:40:17):
It gets scary for others that are doing evil well
in the world. I mean, those folks are going to
get probably taken out.

Speaker 3 (01:40:26):
I mean yeah, I mean I've heard that definitely. I
heard that's gonna That's definitely a way they feel, and.

Speaker 1 (01:40:33):
That could be a good outcome. I mean, what if
superintelligence created a real shangri law. I think super intelligence
has the ability to create a real, positive and rewarding
human civilization.

Speaker 3 (01:40:48):
I hope you're right. I mean, I really would love
to have that.

Speaker 1 (01:40:52):
But it won't be entirely human. It'll be artificial intelligence
existence in combination with human all right.

Speaker 3 (01:41:01):
I think they work together. Yeah, yeah, definitely. This has
been a great talk. I really love the way our
conversations go and what they know. Whatever episodes is so
bring into other people, you know what. I could talk
all day about this, and it leads into other things
because when as I've told you about three times in

(01:41:23):
this conversation, everything has to do with everything, Let's not
forget that. And so the the elites going too, the
AI going to have people feeling go into corporations and
go into the United Nations. It's just a realization that
other people need to really study and know the truth
about and trust that what they're finding out is true. So,

(01:41:47):
going back to the beginning of the conversation.

Speaker 1 (01:41:51):
So, how do how does a listener to this find
your podcast?

Speaker 3 (01:41:55):
It's very easy to find. All they need to do
is go to the website Truthdetective podcast dot com and
they will get all of my episodes. I've been trying
a little bit of a different situation where I give
some short storytelling episodes that are relatable to all of
this AI and alien.

Speaker 1 (01:42:16):
Invations to them, and I think that there.

Speaker 3 (01:42:19):
It's a departure from what I've been used to doing.

Speaker 1 (01:42:21):
They're telling a story of what life would be like
under these that's right situations.

Speaker 3 (01:42:27):
They always start out with being a little bit like dystopian,
which we're facing right now with the smart cities, or
with this and that, with hearing about the UFOs or
you what they call them UA, which is interesting that
they've changed that. That's where I'm headed and I'm trust
trying it out, trying something new. You can go to

(01:42:47):
Truth Detective Podcast. You can email me at truth Detective
Podcast at gmail dot com and I always answer. I
love your to get emails about suggestions on topics. It's
always a great thing because I love to get my
audience involved with what I'm doing, so that's always a
good thing. Where can they reach you?

Speaker 1 (01:43:06):
Oh you were here? Yeah, this is my podcast, so yes,
but if you can find me at Rob Greenley dot com.
I also do a bunch of other shows on YouTube
and but this is my main podcast. But I do
that trust factor very important, let's say audio and video
podcasts also, So.

Speaker 3 (01:43:27):
I've also been thinking about doing videos. I'm a little afraid,
but if I do a recorded video, maybe I'll start
that way. That's a good way to start and then
move on to the live thing. But I enjoy our conversations.
I hope they continue because we touch upon a lot
of different things, don't we.

Speaker 1 (01:43:44):
Oh yeah, a.

Speaker 3 (01:43:45):
Lot of things that are important for people to know.

Speaker 1 (01:43:49):
You need to think about as we look to the.

Speaker 3 (01:43:50):
Future, right, just think about maybe go down the rabbit
hole just a little bit and do some research and
find out your truth and what you trust to be true.
Really good thing.

Speaker 1 (01:44:02):
Thank you for joining us here through two hours of this.

Speaker 3 (01:44:05):
Two hours of my life.

Speaker 1 (01:44:08):
All Right, we'll be back.

Speaker 3 (01:44:09):
I'll never get back, but I've enjoyed it so much.

Speaker 1 (01:44:11):
All Right, we'll be back again with another episode of Spoken.

Speaker 3 (01:44:16):
Life and Truth Detective.

Speaker 1 (01:44:19):
Truth Detective. Go check out Truth Detective.

Speaker 4 (01:44:21):
Yeah, okay, all right, bye bye.

Speaker 2 (01:44:35):
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