The Rest Room

The Rest Room

Welcome to The Rest Room: a place to explore what it means to live (and live well) with chronic illness. natashalipman.substack.com

Episodes

February 8, 2023 42 mins

A little while ago, my doctor told me that I need to convalesce. My instinct? To record a podcast episode about convalescence. In which I was called out (kindly) for that being my first instinct.

The episode is, I think, a fascinating conversation about what realistic convalescence in 2023 looks like when you live with a long-term health condition and can’t just disappear to “go and take the sea air”.

After a difficult few months, ex...

Mark as Played

Do you experience Post-Exertional Malaise? I have for a number of years now, and it can be utterly debilitating.

But, like the term “brain fog”, I know what PEM means, what it feels like, subjectively, but I didn’t know all that much about what we actually mean when we talk about PEM.

What’s actually happening inside our bodies when we experience these exacerbation of symptoms hours or days after exerting ourselves?

These are quest...

Mark as Played
December 20, 2022 52 mins

This year has been the best one yet when it comes to this podcast. I’ve been working with an amazing producer (big shoutout to Philly Guillou!) which means we’ve been able to consistently release two episodes a month - and with her support I’ve been able to start working on the kind of content I always felt like I needed when I was younger and early on in my diagnosis. 

I’ve learned so much from our guests, and we’ve shared stories,...

Mark as Played

Whether you celebrate Christmas or not, when December rolls around (and you live in a Christian country) there’s a whole lots of special festive stuff going on. Whether it’s invites to dinner or New Year parties, Secret Santa, family meals, festive drinks in a bedecked pub - there’s often a whole lot more social stuff to do, presents to wrap, ugly Christmas jumpers to wear, and Christmas movies to binge.

But if you live with chronic...

Mark as Played

In this episode we discuss:

* The history of the Beighton Score - how did a tool used for epidemiological studies come to be used to test for EDS? And should it have been?

* The limitations of the current EDS criteria (and what the hell happened with the HSD diagnosis)

* The difficulties of creating a diagnostic criteria for hEDS

* What’s the deal with “the gene”?

* More about Sabeeha’s current work and the exciting future for EDS resea...

Mark as Played

One of the saddest (and yet not surprising) things I’ve heard over the years in my conversations with chronically ill people is how many people have had negative experiences with medical professionals.

I wanted to talk to someone who has experience on both sides of the doctor-patient relationship. And with that in mind, I’m delighted to share a chat I recently had with Hannah Barham-Brown, a chronically ill GP and disability activis...

Mark as Played

In the last episode of The Rest Room podcast, we explored the tricky beast of navigating work when you live with chronic illness.

As I mentioned, there are many people who are too unwell to work, but there are also many of us who (with the right roles, adjustments and support) may be able to work even a little bit.

With the help of my guests Pippa Stacey and Bruce Daisley, we discussed everything from the barriers we can face when it...

Mark as Played
October 4, 2022 48 mins

This week, we’re joined by good friend of the Rest Room, Pippa Stacey, a writer, blogger and public speaker who works with the UK charity Astriid, which matches talented people with long-term health conditions with meaningful work. We’re also joined by Bruce Daisley, who’s a best-selling author and self-proclaimed workplace culture enthusiast.

We discuss the state of inclusive employment for chronically ill people, the ch...

Mark as Played
September 20, 2022 58 mins

When I heard that a new startup called Visible was building wearable technology to help people with energy-limiting conditions learn how to pace - using real-time data from our own bodies to help us understand how exertion is impacting our health - I got extremely excited. I was lucky enough to join the team in April, and in today's episode I'm joined by our co-founder, CEO (and my boss!) Harry Leeming as our guest for to...

Mark as Played

How we think about movement when living with hypermobiliy is a subject I’m super interested in, so I’m delighted to have had the opportunity to chat with Joint Hypermobility & Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome Movement Therapist, Jeannie Di Bon. 

I’ve worked with Jeannie a couple of times in the past and I personally found her approach to the hypermobile body so refreshing.

In today’s episode of The Rest Room, we have a...

Mark as Played

What's it actually like to date with chronic illness? And what's it like to date someone who lives with chronic illness?

That’s exactly what we’ll be exploring today - from both sides. I'm joined by my new husband Sebastian to discuss what it's like to be with someone who can’t do a lot of the things young people are expected to do? To see someone you love in pain and not be able to stop it? And how can you find...

Mark as Played

“I just hated myself. I really hated myself. My body kept failing me. And so I couldn't do all the things that I so desperately wanted to do. I couldn't be a part of friendship groups. I couldn't go out. I couldn't do anything. This thing, my body, which is supposed to get me from point A, point B, it's supposed to be on my side. It just kept on failing.”

That’s Natasha Misri, one of my oldest and dearest friends, and my guest for t...

Mark as Played

Sleep (or lack of it) can be of the cruellest paradoxes of living with chronic illness: you spend your days fatigued beyond words, only to struggle to fall asleep at night. Or you spend a huge amount of time sleeping, but never wake up feeling rested.

And yes, having trouble sleeping is not a problem unique to people living with chronic illness, but I always found that a lot of the basic advice that’s supposed to help us sleep bett...

Mark as Played

Ok so, I know how I often talk about pacing and thinking about how to break up activities and give myself as much time as possible to do things…and then…we decided to get married in August.

But we have a plan. And I love admin, so…this is going to be totally fine…?!

Sebastian and I got engaged in June of 2020, but with the whole pandemic going on we decided that we weren’t going to think about a wedding for the foreseeable future. T...

Mark as Played
May 31, 2022 50 mins

If you’re a regular listener of The Rest Room podcast, you may have sensed a little bit of a theme. I’m very interested in exploring tools and techniques to help us learn how to live well with chronic illness.

We’ve explored topics like pacing and how to safely and sustainably introduce movement into your life - things that are often lumped into the bucket of “self-management”.

To me, self-management has always been thinking about ...

Mark as Played
April 29, 2022 30 mins

Welcome back to Part 2 of our mini series on brain fog and chronic illness.

In our last episode, Neuroscientist Dr. Sabina Brennan explained what brain fog actually is and all the different ways it can impact us.

As someone who has complained about brain fog for years, but has never thought about it beyond my own subjective experience, I found it fascinating, and highly recommend giving it a listen if you haven’t already.

As it tur...

Mark as Played
April 13, 2022 34 mins

Like many people living with chronic illness and chronic pain, brain fog is a normal (but bloody annoying) part of my daily life. Whilst I can talk about it subjectively, I never spent much time thinking about what brain fog actually is.

I’m not particularly adept at using visual and descriptive imagery to explain things, so I loved when my friend said that brain fog to her is “like trying to load Netflix on dial up internet on a w...

Mark as Played

On the 24th February 2022, the world watched in horror as Russian troops invaded Ukraine. At the time of writing, more than 2.5 million people have fled the country, in what the United Nations has called the fastest-growing refugee crisis since World War Two. 

It’s unclear how many of those who’ve left are disabled, but the European Disability Forum has said tens of thousands of people with disabilities "risk being abandoned and for...

Mark as Played
March 9, 2022 41 mins

Did you know that in the founding constitution of the World Health Organisation, health is defined as:

“A state of complete physical, mental and social well-being and not merely the absence of disease and infirmity.”

As someone who's lived with chronic conditions since I was a child, I’ve spent a lot of time thinking about what recovery can mean. In fact, I’ve even been through the (pretty common) experience of trying to heal myself...

“I think all too often, healthcare professionals put [self-management] across in a way that kind of internalises a lot of this guilt around ‘I haven't been able to manage, so I failed at self-management.’

You haven't been able to manage because you're living with something unmanageable. Complex, long-term, unpleasant health conditions are a challenge. And it's an ongoing, constantly evolving challenge.” - Jo Southall

Sometimes, I can...

Mark as Played

Popular Podcasts

    I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!

    The Breakfast Club

    The World's Most Dangerous Morning Show, The Breakfast Club, With DJ Envy And Charlamagne Tha God!

    The Joe Rogan Experience

    The official podcast of comedian Joe Rogan.

    24/7 News: The Latest

    The latest news in 4 minutes updated every hour, every day.

    The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

    The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. Clay Travis and Buck Sexton tackle the biggest stories in news, politics and current events with intelligence and humor. From the border crisis, to the madness of cancel culture and far-left missteps, Clay and Buck guide listeners through the latest headlines and hot topics with fun and entertaining conversations and opinions.

Advertise With Us
Music, radio and podcasts, all free. Listen online or download the iHeart App.

Connect

© 2025 iHeartMedia, Inc.