Revival |1x02 "Keeping Up Appearances"

Steven Ogg (Simon of The Saviors on The Walking Dead) plays a character named Blaine Abel whom Cooper, Officer Dana Cypress' son/Sheriff Wayne Cypress' grandson, bumps into while lost in the woods. Martha Cypress struggles with her new normal. Can a Revived even be killed?!

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Episode Transcript

(00:20):
We are squawking dead of podcastpulverizing programs beyond The
Walking Dead universe. Sometimes we give you news,
sometimes we make you laugh. Most times we go deep.
I'm your host, David Cameo, and I'm joined by.
B Cosmo Mom, 09. And Bridget, you can find me at
youtube.com, slash at Punky Brewster.
That's PUNKYBRUISETER. And today we are here back again

(00:45):
twice a week to discuss revival on the sci-fi Network, which you
can find on Peacock, Sci Fi's channel.
If you have still have cable, you can actually go to
scifi.com, syfy.com/revival and watch it for free.
I guess if you're in the United States, maybe abroad, let us
know if that's even the case. And I think there's one more

(01:07):
spot only video on demand depending if you're streaming
bit on some sort of streamable TV service.
The second episode is the one we're talking about today and
it's titled Keeping Up Appearances, which we're going
to do twice a week until we catch up probably maybe.
But I'm very happy that we've gotten quite the reception when
it comes to this show from fellow creators and also the

(01:30):
creators of the show. It's been really nice getting
some feedback from them and somelove the writers, creators,
showrunners of the show, Luke Boyce and Aaron B Koontz, as
well as I think it's Luke Boyce's wife, I think it's
Carrie Boyce. I think it's I think her name is
just totally boosting up the show.
Like most supportive wife ever loves that.

(01:50):
Yeah, one of them for all of us.There's some really hardcore
Winona Earp accounts by the way that follow revival too, which I
think is very it's. A good show, Dave.
It was a It was a good. Show So you know what?
I feel like we missed the boat and feel like I wasted a little
of our time talking about Melanie Scrofino or Fano.

(02:11):
And I always get because she she's, it sounds incredibly
talented. She is.
It's like, Oh yeah, she used to be a that girl, and now she's
more than just that. It feels like at this point
she's no. Longer a that girl.
It will always be Mrs. McMurray,and that's OK.
I agree. I guess we should be respectful
for the talent. Well, yeah.

(02:32):
It's like saying Stephen Young, it will all will just be Glenn
Like no, he. Was no, I didn't say just be.
I just said will always be Stephen Young.
Will always be Glenn. Glenn Ree on The Walking Dead.
So good comparison. I guess, but you know, good job
kind of like I don't want to minimize, you know what you
know, when it comes to like minimizing somebody just for

(02:53):
that one roll or pigeon you're. Taking it wrong, I'm not
minimizing anything. You just doesn't.
Did you just say I'm? Wrong about something I did.
Yeah. He does not compute.
Let's talk about this episode. Keeping Up Appearances is the
title. And you know what's coming,
Rachel? This mother again.
How does the title relate to this episode, Rachel?

(03:14):
Keeping up appearances? Well, the most obvious answer,
of course, is M She figured out pretty quickly that she was a
reviver, but she kept appearances pretending that she
was not until she couldn't pretend anymore.
Very in the most unconventional way.
Yeah, and now weird rocker sideshow dude.

(03:37):
Figured out Why does he simultaneously look like he's 40
and 15? It's 15 and 45 it's.
Amazing. He's so uncomfortable.
You guys looking at him like why?
What are you he? Looks like Dave if he lost a lot
of weight and wore a wig. What?
He's 46, said. That Dave, he looks more like me

(03:57):
than you one and two. I mean the Bridget Face TM, Siri
and. Two, I'm just saying he looks
like he's. That's so rabbit I.
Don't know. I love her face.
Bridget face is the best face. He's. 14 or something.
I was he's he's 14. He's 4.

(04:20):
He's 4017. He's 4017.
He's. Just.
I don't know. I was like, I was looking at his
face really closely during it. I was like, how old is this guy
supposed to be? He's 474017.
You know what it made me realize?
It's that 5:00 shadow too. It's me.
It's me. Not because we look alike,
obviously, Dave, but. Because.

(04:40):
Because. Because because I too, I'm
trying to hold on to who Bridgetwas in her 20s.
I'm trying so hard and I'm getting older and I think it's
getting a little embarrassing but not really let it.
Go yet? I got to say, I don't think you
need to worry about it too much.I'm the complete opposite.

(05:02):
I'm ready to be 88 we. Were just talking about that.
I am not ready to be 88. I'm not.
Even ready to be how old I am and now to be fair, Fast
forward, I don't want to get plastic surgery.
I'm not saying that, maybe a little, but.
You just clean up under here and.

(05:25):
But like, but don't lift it where I'm like, don't do that.
I don't want where it's that's. What they do you ever mean that
your cheeks are like a feature? Bridget, it's.
True, but they're sagging now. What?
Now I'm starting to get jowls soI2I2 and fourty teen.
Wait so did you listen to the lyrics of the song that came up?

(05:46):
Because it's not a conventional song.
It's not a conventional emo postpunk.
Tell me. Punk.
It's a metaphor for a Doctor Hap.
Oh my gosh, you can't even say it.
What's going on? Wanting to have to like perform
surgery quote UN quote. OK.
Like as a like a metaphor for hooking up.

(06:08):
Oh, like a doctor. Feel good.
But like, not as schlucky. It's like it.
You know how emo takes itself too seriously?
Sorry is doctor feel good too low brow for you to?
And that's why I. Like it?
So the song is from the surgeon's perspective.

(06:31):
Yeah, the surgeon taking the teenage boy.
He's talking about performing surgery.
Open you up and dig in, yeah? You know it's to enter.
Wink wink nudge nudge. Know what I mean?
Know what I mean? It's to rummage around your
guts, you know? It's so gross.

(06:51):
He wants to rearrange your insides.
That's horrible. You know, it's even.
You know what the best part is? There's no audience right now,
No. No.
They're missing our best stuff. They're missing.
I think it's like like when we think nobody's listening or
watching. It's like the two people are

(07:12):
here and I'm one of them. I'm the other one so so no one.
No one. This this, this is no audience
squawking did is the best squawking did.
It's like if if if a podcast falls in the forest.
Does anybody care if we start cancelling ourselves if this?
Gets too bad, you can just like delete it from YouTube.

(07:33):
Absolutely not. This is the best part.
But we'll get cancelled, right? No I I wish we get cancelled.
I didn't. Say.
Good on the I didn't say anything I wouldn't say.
Any other day of the week. So hey, your organ is
rearranging my organ. So.

(07:55):
So in the song is his scalpel his thing?
I don't know. Yes, probably so.
It's just, and it sounds like something is one of the emo
bands would say it had that cadence and that term must be.

(08:16):
You know what I mean? I'm.
Sorry, can you hear it? Yellow card in me right now.
Stop. It's like a very yellow card.
That's very yellow card, whatever it's.
Just very all the emo bands. No, Dave, there's differences.
Generalized like that, yeah, there's a.
Difference are you offended upon?
Is there like a a emo society yes anymore or is that like
against the emo code to have a society that is an emo society?

(08:39):
Very, very present. Is it though?
Yes. I mean.
We should be absent and we should move on back.
Well, isn't everybody keeping upappearances?
The mayor Wayne, don't tell the press, Dana, don't tell the
press, don't tell dad. That was titled the last episode
that. Was the last one Don't wake

(09:00):
daddy, That was a game. Yeah, what was that from?
Don't wake daddy, it's a game. It's the game.
So what the game's called. Oh, wait, the it's a tabletop
game, or like a kids game. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah. Yeah, and then he wakes up from
the bed. He.
Like shoots up. My kids are acting out.
Don't wake daddy. I love how this show has become

(09:21):
a vehicle for all things absurd right now.
I don't know my. Organs rearranging your organs.
I don't know what's happening. I enjoy the way Bridget's saying
Daddy, Daddy don't wake daddy. What else is keeping up
appearances? Oh.
Oh. Still on that Brody still
appears to be a 40 year old. 404040 Teen. 4040 Teen.

(09:46):
And and you know what? Someone goes by Bouquet.
It's not Mrs. Bucket, it's Bouquet.
Wait. Who?
What? No.
One's getting this reference. If any of you have ever watched
the show giving up appearances and you're getting this
reference right now, leave a comment please for the love of
God so I'm not alone in this. Where's Sharon?

(10:07):
When I need her, she would know.Is it an old show?
Yeah, it was on PBS. OK, so somebody said bouquet
instead of bucket. Gotcha.
It's a. Target.
Her name was Bucket, but she wanted to be viewed as not
trashy like who the rest of her family was and so she would tell
everyone, oh it's bouquet darling.
Like Joe Dertay. Yeah.

(10:27):
Was there he at the end of? No.
Which makes it even funnier. All right, you're right.
Let me add this little factoid because I don't think we're
going to bring it up again. K, the roommate.
M's roommate, which is kind of funny because M Martha K is that
it's her. Name and I don't like her.
I want to punch her. Exactly.
Her name is Martinez. Let me just actually get that

(10:50):
right. That's probably her last name.
Yes. Well, no.
Matheran is her last name. Comma Ki.
Didn't say that in the sheet at all.
It has the last names and heights for some reason.
That's weird. Yeah but we know her name is K
from the show because it was mentioned on the show.
So K Matheran, or at least the 1st letter of her first name,
because you never know because Mis Martha.

(11:11):
Yeah, God, no one knows. Which is kind of I like that's
kind of funny. It's it's cute, skewed, thank
you narrative show. But Matheran is a very funny
name. I'm like, what kind of name is
Matheran? Matheran, she's 54.
Just want to let you know, Matheran means of Mars, meaning
the Roman God of War from the Latin martinus.
That's why I said martinus before.

(11:32):
But wait, the French derivation means mature slash ripe, so I
don't know what that means in terms of I don't.
Know why you said that? Is this like AI was thinking
more of like a is this she's like a 21 jump St. situation
where Bridget is pretending to be emo teenage Bridget?
It's just not a phase, Dave, that's all I'm saying.

(11:53):
It's a very long phase, Bridget.I'm fine.
I agree you hide it well unlike K Mar Matheran.
So, Speaking of A. Did not get this last name.
OK I have a theory. I want to talk about K the
roommate because I got a very strong feeling that is she

(12:14):
sleeping with a professor? Did the professor move on from M
to K now? Oh, because she was being weird
on the phone. You know, alphabetically Cape
comes before him. That I messed up?
What happened on the phone? I don't remember.
That she was being weird on the phone.
She was on a phone call and she was like, yeah, she sleeps all
day or whatever. It was just like the way that
she kind of got laughing. The phone kind of like.

(12:36):
Was weird. She was like, I can't talk now
and then like hung up. I know, so it was weird and then
I thought also you are the one who told em to go to the bridge.
You are the one who drove her there.
We now know. So did you have something to do
with her dying? Were you trying to get her out
of the way so that you could have?
Which, mind you, he's a horribleperson because you're sleeping

(12:58):
with a college student while your wife is dying of cancer.
Yes, Negan. Oh, wait.
Oh wait. Oh, you're a less attractive
version of Negan. Wow, right?
I feel like a lot that goes intowhy she would do such a thing
too, or why she would there would be that power being given
the accident, given the amount of recovery she had to have.

(13:21):
She said she was a sheltered child because of her brittle
bone syndrome. I can easily see like that being
like a safe choice for her in a weird way.
Like, why take a chance on somebody that's my age?
You'll mock me and scarier wherethere's like a daddy or she's.
OLD is taking a chance on a married dude.
So yeah, he's already married. It's safe.
No, that's going to end. Nobody's going to help me.

(13:42):
I thought it was interesting because we find out that doesn't
actually really care about him. She's just trying to figure out
what happened that night. And I was happy, Rachel, because
your question was answered like it seemed like she didn't know
what happened and then we find out it's because she was on
drugs. So it like answered all of the
questions that we had from the last episode.

(14:04):
I love a show that does that. Isn't it so satisfying?
She's referring to from people from on MGM.
She's referring to from and we will move on.
You didn't have to do any of that, I'm just saying how nice
this is. This is where I actually have to
apologize because I I'm not finished watching the show when
the day we recorded for notes, Ibled into my first few minutes

(14:27):
watch of the second episode. Which is why you were like, they
didn't they didn't show her climbing to the center and
waking up at the road. Yeah.
I was like, dude, what? Are you talking about?
Bridget just trying to channel Bridget like she's so confused
why she's so dumb. I saw it and then I realized,
wait, hold on a minute. Interesting he's giving us crap

(14:49):
about watching ahead and we've never spoiled anything.
When? We do that, but he did.
But he did Dave well. Yeah, but, you know, even if you
do spoil it, you didn't know what I was talking about.
You're like, what? You're nuts.
They didn't show us that. It didn't matter anyway.
Same thing with Karina when we talked about the first episode

(15:10):
of Fallout, when she watched TheHead.
But like. I don't know if you saw my face
during that, Dave, but like, I knew what she was talking about.
I was like. I started doing it.
I was like. You did this first, you did
this. You actually here's here's how
it happened. Let me, let me let me describe
it. You were looking down for some
reason, because you're always looking down or eating
something. It's fine.
And then she all of a sudden shekind of like, I'm just saying

(15:36):
you fidget around a lot. Sometimes you kick and then you
kick the desk and it goes boom. 'Cause you're always eating or
whatever fatty, you're always. Doing something you're
multitasking Bridget anyway, he says awkwardly, but then she
looks up. She look up, looks up, suddenly
goes like something had. Happened and I couldn't say
anything without busting myself.Yeah.

(15:57):
Half like try not to alert the fact that she started looking at
like he's going like slack mouthkind of like.
Just slowly shake my head because I was like Dave can't
know that I'm. Detectively shaking her head so
that nobody could see, but hopefully she's sending
telepathic messages to Karina soshe sees something that she's
not actually doing but that likeimperceptible.

(16:19):
Like if I shake my head at the frame rate where nobody can see
it, but maybe Karina can see it,maybe she'll stop talking.
But she did not. She plowed on like as if it was
lore. At that point, she did.
She's the best. I can't wait to have her on
again. All right, so let's go back to
the theory. I think it's well, she says.

(16:40):
At the end of the day, too. Crazy but.
Well, I, I, I don't know about sleeping with the professor, but
she says she needed a quick fix.And then she kind of has this
thought, right? Like she was, wait a minute,
you're asking the wrong questions.
I know who killed them. What a weird thing to say.
Right like mid sentence. I would say what a deflection

(17:02):
too, right? Sounds like you're crafting an
alibi. Or.
I was thinking even like, are you preparing to kill Dana
Cypress? Like Officer Dana, who was
obviously like coming under false pretenses into the room,
Like there's I smelled weed and the door was open so I was able
to. You have no probable cause.
Also, I don't know, I'll say this much.

(17:22):
Have you had thoughts about whenthis is all taking place?
What year? Oh no.
OK, I was wondering that myself after looking at the flip phone,
the Prius V that Ibrahim Ramin drives, the four by three screen
LCD monitors in the Sheriff's Office instead of like 16 by 9.

(17:43):
That except for you, Dave, yeah,of.
Course you noticed that. So the comic book does not
establish its point in time. It makes sense.
When did it come out? Oh, we talked about it 2012.
2007, 2000, sorry, 2012 to 2017.However, it's kind of official.
That's that her. The rap sheet has the date of

(18:04):
2007. The drug busts for the year of
2007. This show takes place or starts
in December of that year. We're now probably in 2008
because it's 35 days later. Interesting.
Why that? Pre pre Walking Dead.
Sleep more, arguably, because we've made the argument that,
yeah, maybe it started in 2008 but took a while to reach, or a
fever pitch. But anyway, I thought that was

(18:26):
interesting. There are other things too,
like, OK, but the Prius V is actually an anachronism because
that came out in 2012. Prius V was like their wagon
version of the Prius. They made the show for you,
former Prius driver and IT guy. But what I'm saying is it does
take place in 2008, but the Prius week came out in 2012.

(18:47):
So that's kind of a. Oh, he has an advanced model.
Yeah, that's right, the CDC has tested stuff in Lock.
Maybe he's testing it. And it also it's already dinged
up too. Anyways, I thought it was
interesting. OK, so we're in.
Also the world. Of Warcraft, by the way, did you
notice that as well that Deputy McRae is back for another

(19:08):
episode? I was so happy to see Derry.
That was good time I was. Not happy to see that rat tail
but good golly. I mean, impressive, though very
long. He worked very hard on that.
Dairy Nathan Dales AKA Deputy McRae.
His first name could be Dairy. We don't know what to.
Say Deputy Daryl McRae. Daryl McRae by.

(19:30):
The way Daryl with two Rs by the.
Way I was just happy to. I'm just happy to see dairy.
It was good. Sounding, strangely, a lot like
dairy. Dairy from Letterkenny. 2
observations. First of all, all the lines.
Where are you picking those blueberries from?
OK I'm Canadian, please stop it.Second, he's obviously got snus

(19:52):
or like like lip tobacco kind ofthing.
Yeah, he's chewing something awesome.
The rat tail, like you guys mentioned, the huge rat tail.
It's an homage to Eugene from The Walking Dead.
My favorite part was when he tried to move it but it just
fell back behind him again. He tried to flip it back behind
the chair and it just came back as if to say it's long, but not

(20:16):
that long. No, it's that long, you just
messed it up. Nathan Dales.
But also screwing the pooch justas they reach her name is
Arlene, the 83 three-year old. We're going to call her a zombie
or a deranged zombie. He gets the maternity ward and
he goes hoops and then like he knocks over a toy and she just
and she just goes away. Off with the baby.

(20:37):
Yeah, which then, Speaking of Eugene from The Walking Dead, we
ended up bumping into a bookend.We see Steve and Ogg at the
beginning of the episode, and wesee him at the end of the
episode. Ish.
Sure. Middle I think, I guess.
Making this show officially partof The Walking Dead universe.
Well. Now we have even more legitimacy

(20:57):
for covering it. Yeah.
I don't disagree, that's why I immediately stopped the second
episode the moment I saw him at the beginning of the episode
with. And he was like, you guys, do
you want to cover this or not? And he kept asking and I was
like, I was like, he clearly wants us to cover it.
Well, I. Really knew that you would like
the slogginess of like the the horror references.

(21:18):
I love it. 28 days later was referenced, or weeks later even.
Oh, really? Yeah.
And turns out 28 Years Later probably came out right when
that episode was released. Yep.
So. Yeah, recently.
How about that little? Symmetry.
It's so good. Anyway it?
Was a couple years later the 28 years later came out.

(21:40):
Oh sorry, 28 weeks later I'm trying to 2007.
Oh, from that year, yeah. Yeah, I guess it would.
Have come out in 2006 Because it's 28 years.
Sorry, 20 weeks later is what isthat 2?
No. Oh, it's only 6 months.
It did not come out only six months after the first.
Time they did not actually follow that they.

(22:01):
Did not follow that. Anyway, sorry, I just thought
that was interesting. Fine.
Can we wrap up the conversation about the drugs because that was
an interesting back and forth throughout the episode.
How these aren't pill mill drugslike from a pain relief center,
right? These were manufactured for the
express distribution of illicit drugs, feeling they're like

(22:21):
super oxycodone, basically instant release, IR instant
release oxycodone. For what purpose and for whom?
And even Dana says Dana, Cyprus Officer McMurray, how about
that? Does that work for you?
She even says maybe there's a connection between the drugs and
the revived. Is that possible?
I don't know. There were other mentions of why

(22:42):
there might be a connection between the revived and
something else. Those drugs presumably are going
to be in a specific crowd of people.
I I mean, we haven't seen all the revivers, but I would find
it unlikely that they're all recreational drug users.
Yeah, we should have been able to make a connection between all

(23:04):
of them if that were the case already, because that's.
Basically. So this is not exactly a crack
team here, yeah. But I don't they have.
Some fair statement. But they have drugs.
Records. Well, so here's what I was going
to get to because that's a greatquestion.
And one, remember something thatI said in the last episode how
there were so many people that were revived.
Like we're talking about like 51people officially 51 names on

(23:28):
that list of revived 4 which whoweren't accounted for until like
Dana came into the picture. So like 51 people in the span of
two weeks were revived that whomdied between those two weeks,
That's a lot of people. But they all died within two
weeks but revived on the same day, correct?
Correct. Yes, OK, but isn't that that's a
lot of people to die in a small town in two weeks?

(23:50):
Do we really depends on 50? One people in a small town.
Wausau is not the smallest town though.
It's not like 1000 population, it's like a fairly large city.
It just seems unlikely. I mean, I'm not saying it's like
a town in population 1000, but you know, probably.
I think fairly large. Large because I lived in a town
smaller. It's 39,000 people, so 5051 is

(24:15):
not that much especially and we'll say.
This the yearly average. Well, I'm going to say this, a
small town in Wisconsin, much like small towns here in the
South, there are quite a lot of deaths because opioid epidemic
is real and has been and has been since even in the, even
since back in, yeah, 2007. Sackler Family, right?

(24:36):
That whole lawsuit I think was around that time, right?
Or maybe even later on those years.
That I do not know. Well, it just seems high,
especially well maybe that okay,okay, okay, I've heard this
statistic of around Christmas time is the highest rate of
suicides and stuff like that anddrug overdoses and stuff like
that. So I can okay constantly refutes
his own statement. Well, OK, so I'll give you this.

(24:58):
In 2017, the Wisconsin Department of Health Services
reported a total deaths, 455 forthe year.
For the year, OK. And then if you divide that by
52 and then assign most of thoseto.
No, it's Wausau. It's Wausau.
This. Is.
Just the city. No, this.
No, no, no. Oh my God, no.

(25:19):
That's in the state of Wisconsin, dude. 455, Yeah,
you're dreaming. Their their total county had
1192. Mountain Bay, OK for the year.
Marathon County, Yeah, where they're located.
Oh, I thought it was mountain. I guess it's the comic book
Mountain Bay is the. Marathon Counties where Wausau,
WI is actually located. Actually show.

(25:42):
It would be 17 1/2. So like you'd say, 18 is like
the actual number. So it is high.
So like 4 it's two, it's four times. 18 for a week.
No, OK, OK, well, still 2 weeks.It is 2 weeks 18.
Yeah, did the math pretty quickly.
I surprised myself. Well, I did the math, but sure.

(26:04):
I did your math. Shakespeare.
Literally. I have the calculator to prove
it you. Needed a calculator.
Dave, come on, dude, you want to.
All right, all right, Rain. Man, I'm just kidding.
Anyway, so. What is it?
What is it later? On making me a math that you're
going to make fun of me later for but so high I guess of the

(26:27):
year I'm making a connection here because the rap sheet the
the big drug bust rap sheet, which contained about 25 people
for the year of 2007 with K in it pretty high as well.
She even wrong. She says well that's pretty high
amount of people who are busted for drugs or oxycodone
specifically selling. Well, that's the thing.
If it's an opioid crisis and that is happening, then you have

(26:49):
to assume that the annual dust was probably higher where I was
looking at statistics from 2017.So opioid crisis is still very
much happening, but. And maybe this is just right
around the time it was happeningor starting, let's say.
Maybe just throwing it out there.
I mean, if drugs are a pinnacle point of this story, then I
think you can make the assumption that that.
Is part of it and specifically pain drugs.

(27:11):
OK so yes something that was said in the first episode and
the second episode OK and Ramin says it both episodes.
The first episode he says or no I'm sorry it was the coroner
Randy. Randy says something about the
guy who was accidentally buried or burnt in the incinerator.
This guy, he mentions Jeff rightbefore the real guy busts out of

(27:32):
the crematorium. Anyway, he says the reason was
because without the feeling of pain, we don't know.
We need pain to let us know we're alive.
Exactly, Ramin says in the second episode.
It's not just the ability to like almost instantly repair
your muscle mass or it's not about strength, isn't just about
muscle, It's also about the lackof pain receptors, he says.

(27:52):
Right. And if this, whatever oxycodone,
this special oxycodone makes it so that you don't feel pain,
it's like this special manufactured version of it.
Well then couldn't that be the thing that caused the revival?
Basically the special batch. That's the claim.
Like the I'm connecting the 2 drops.
I get what you're saying, but what you're saying is all the
revivers were using this drug. Or I don't know what using, but

(28:16):
maybe we're given. No, they weren't given it
because it was manufactured by adrug dealer.
You're not going to the pharmacyto pick this up.
This was specifically manufactured for recreational
use, not medicinal. What if the supplier wasn't your
typical drug dealer, let's say, because Kay even has she.
The way she's even going about talking about M's fix quote UN

(28:38):
quote makes it seem as though she went to somebody special to
get like a special fix for her problems.
Assuming that what she's saying is true according to Bridget's
theory. She obviously went to Walter
White Blue, right? Or or the Wisconsin equivalent
of Walter White. Essentially, maybe it's teacher
lover. Maybe, it's maybe or yes.

(29:02):
Wait, why? Where does the title of this
episode come from? She her, she says.
She says yeah, we should keep upappearances.
Keep up appearances. Yeah.
Why? To to your point, why?
Is it because of the affair or is it something else?
Maybe she's a drug dealer. Maybe she needs the pain
medication for herself. And she said, well, if I'm

(29:25):
making it for myself, maybe I'llmake it for.
Might as well make some money onthe side.
Could be, listen, we're spendingyarns at this point, but it's
interesting, it's not the conventional.
I'm trying to make a connection between these drugs to the
revived somehow. These are wild theories.
Here's the thing. Obviously there's something
going on with with these drugs. It's going to play a part in

(29:45):
something. I don't think all the revivers
were using the drug. What if it seeped into the
ground somehow in? The production.
Yeah, I don't think we're going to find out that all of these
revivers were taking recreational drugs and that's
what happened. Well, remember what I said in
the first episode? I said that it was so precise

(30:05):
that they had nailed down the time of revival so precisely
between the the fact that that one guy didn't revive the day
before, just the day before and how the guy from the crematorium
came up and the guy whoever was sat up in their body bag.
All that stuff happened at the same time and all within a
specific two week span period. Another thing that was said in

(30:26):
this episode in relation to, I'mgoing to admit this is dumb, but
hems brittle bone disease. Derry mentions blueberries.
Now a side effect or symptom of having brittle bones, even type
1 is having a blue sclera, right?
The whites of your eyes, your sclera are blue.
It's a side effect of brittle bones.

(30:46):
The whites of her eyes would be slightly blue instead of white.
Interesting thing that factoid about brittle bones.
There's like little things, little touch points.
Oh and one last thing. This is the thing I really
wanted to talk about. People with brittle bones also
have dental issues and occasionally deformities like
bone deformities and who had dental issues, but the Arlene

(31:07):
I'm I'm assuming that the person.
That they would grow back? Are those the issues you're
referring to? Well, I think, I mean, there
could be a case for these peoplehaving some sort of brittle bone
disease or something to affect brittle bones plus lack of pain.
I don't. Think Arlene had brittle bones?
She was throwing people around like sacks of sugar.

(31:34):
Sacks of sugar. I'm like, what do people throw?
Like sacks of potatoes. But yeah, I get you.
I get what you're saying. The sacks of sugar I like a lot
better though. I bet that's how.
Arlene would phrase it too. That came to my mind. 83 years
old, she would say that definitely.
She would say that. She would, I guarantee it.

(31:57):
Clearly Arlene is not suffering from brittle bone because she
was able to pick a full grown adult and toss them around like
a sack of sugar. I did say sack of sugar.
I did wonder about that though, because like, OK, why doesn't M
have as far as I can tell? Or any of them, as far as we
know, because Miss McMurray was able to fight with the the

(32:19):
hillbilly with no teeth. Why do they all have weird
things about their teeth? Well, so far, two of them, yeah.
Who found their teeth, not having teeth, didn't fight with
him, but she did subdue him. Oh, the hillbilly in the first
episode? Yeah, that threw me off for a
bit. Sorry.
If he had super strength he would have easily fought her
off. True that.

(32:40):
Was not the case. Yeah.
What is up with that? Even if Ramin says Arlene is the
only person who's exhibited the strength bit, but maybe it's the
turning off of her pain receptors.
It's what he says. I don't know.
I don't know. I don't know.
Maybe everybody has a different situation.
Maybe it's like the 4400 BridgetEverybody has their own special
power. Maybe.

(33:01):
But see, as Dana was talking to Ramin about superpowers and how
levity was M's superpower, doesn't it seem more Dana's
superpower? The levity bit.
I think it's a gift that they both have.
Then we see her smiling and cracking jokes during it even
though she's getting her ass completely handed to her.
And Dana seems to cope through joking because that's how she's

(33:25):
dealing with her sister having died.
Because this is a really big deal.
Like her sisters are blowing it off and acting like it's not a
big deal because she's a reviver, so she's back now.
So like, it doesn't matter, but it doesn't matter.
It happened. Something happened.
You did, but also on top of thatyou are now forever changed and
we don't know how or why. Yeah, Best line ever, I think
was Dad's going to kill me. Is that something that I can we

(33:48):
can say is that offensive? I don't care anymore.
I'm a bad guy now, remember? I don't care so.
I had a question earlier that I didn't ask and it flew out of my
brain and then it just flew backin.
So the revivers are only people who died within a two week span.
Right. OK, 4th to 18th.

(34:09):
So anyone who died after that date is now staying dead,
correct? We don't have.
Any it? Hasn't been addressed.
We haven't been given that information.
OK. I assume so.
Nobody died after that After. The I assume there have been
other deaths and that those people have stayed dead.
No, Dave, everybody stays alive,basically.

(34:30):
Like every, we would know very. Quickly.
Or what in the first episode? Or maybe we wouldn't.
Maybe it's happening so quickly.Maybe we wouldn't.
No. We're all infected.
I just said that, yeah. Oh sorry, did I talk over so
sorry? Secret joke, We're all infected.

(34:54):
I guess the only instance that we would know for sure is if
someone died tragically and not of natural causes.
Or. Publicly, I'm sure that's
happened because they've been onlockdown for so long.
I thought of that too, like how that kind of plays into, we
mentioned this, I think the first episode, how it kind of
plays with the Covad part of it because of the lockdown for 35

(35:14):
days and stuff like that, and how the people didn't go to the
hospitals. And when the episode starts,
they're talking about all the mayor's talking about the
revived and how like, oh, we were just coming out of
lockdown. Oh, it's it's an adjustment.
Cooper's going to school and even the I call her the trash
lady. The one who says they were
supposed to die. Yeah, yeah.
The one M tries to beat up unsuccessfully.

(35:36):
She broke my nose, really. But she got beat to get like a
second. It's crazy, but she says one
thing I actually did agree but didn't want to agree because
she's so annoying, was that people acting all normal, as
though zombies are normal. And isn't that us?
We acted as though all this pandemic stuff was just, yeah,

(35:57):
since now, you know, we'll adjust.
Well, that it's a double sided coin because we're an adaptive
species. We we adapt to changing
situations. It's just how we made it.
But. Like how long are you going to
cope? Exactly.
We don't have a choice, but yeah.
Exactly. But again, the other side of is
like you're acting as though mythical things are normal.
Like zombies are normal, but aliens.

(36:17):
We're discovering aliens are a thing, mate.
Probably. Most likely did.
You get a look at that alien because it didn't look real me.
Well, the more the Uvas. I figure they're calling them
now or instead of UFOs. Yeah.
Or AVPS I. Change them.
Alien versus. Predators.

(36:37):
Alien versus Predators. OK, guys, You see their
aircraft? Yeah.
Like they're flying inside sky like frictionless sacks of
sugar. I can't.
I can't handle it. Yeah, yeah.
Remember, remember, the government never lies to you.
Here's aliens. Do you believe us?
And I'm like bro why would I believe?
Exactly. No, why would I believe you lie

(36:58):
literally all the time? But then here's the thing.
Say they weren't sure. Say they showed their faces on
national intelligence. And they lied and they were
like, that's not an alien. I'd be like, that's only an
alien. You lied alien.
That's just AI. Basically, whatever the
government tells me, I'm believing the opposite of
basically and to the. Government.
There's no aliens and there's ofcourse there's aliens.

(37:21):
They show me there's not. Aliens proving that point
further, honestly. Maybe it's the fact that there
aren't aliens and they go like, OK, listen, we got to tell them
there's aliens, so they'll just stop looking already.
Yeah, so annoying basically. However, five people here
watching. Us.
I swore I broke my swar swar rule.

(37:42):
Swear rule for Givenchy. So the lady that digs up her
husband, she's like. He died the first day, yeah.
We did see that. Yeah, that was so sad.
That was. I was.
I thought that was sad too. I want to talk a little bit
more, do I? You didn't.
We didn't talk about the Deuce member thing.
Oh yeah, you. Didn't you wanted to go back to
that Bridget? Didn't you?

(38:03):
Well, it was Rachel who said we ought to circle back to that.
Oh yeah, we do. We did need to sort.
I just, I don't really know how much there is to discuss about
it, but I thought it was kind ofcool.
OK, I was going to say. I was going to say.
So Rachel, you and I are like front row seat at this thing.
So 42, we're not going to be able to see this again.
I'm wearing my blood poncho. In the front row, I can see it

(38:25):
in an ethical way because like, you're going to do it, it's
going to grow back, everything'sgoing to be fine and it's.
Going to be super awesome. Yeah, he said.
I leave the cool stuff for when I perform.
Is what you're specifically referring to.
OK, Which I'm like, is there arethere any cooler things that one
can do? What was it?
It was like a November to dismember.
Well, the I think the band's just called Dismember.
Like it's like Remember but Dismember.

(38:47):
Like I don't remember spelled incorrectly.
She says lame now but when I go emo is dead and it shouldn't be
a society anymore. She's like.
There's better emo names than that.
That's not a good one. Disagree.
Hi Luke, we do not watch the episode live on here because.

(39:09):
YouTube We we dig into some of the cool things that you guys
have done. Luke Boyce, writer of the show.
Writer, creator, showrunner. Wait, oh hey, wait a second.
I mentioned your name earlier. Wait a second, you're that guy?
And this episode is live. We're not watching the episode.
Live recap. It's like we just talk about it

(39:31):
a lot and dis dissect this member we.
And sometimes we just. From the.
Episode the. Episode.
Yeah, Yeah, Actually Speaking ofthat, I did want to talk about
something very specific that if we hadn't, we would regret it
sincerely. OK.
And it is referring to a line that Wayne Cypress says.

(39:52):
Sheriff Wayne Cypress says I. Can't.
Police these things if I can't kill them.
Oh, for real though. Yeah, for real though.
Because we see Arlene regenerateand the atypical way of.
It's terrifying as. Soon as they stepped out of the
room I was like no. It's going to start bubbling.
And they did. I want to link this to, if you

(40:17):
don't mind, Emma's room because what happens in in Arlene's
brain pan is exactly looking like her drawings in her room.
No, her drawings had like pinnacle like I I felt like that
was something like a recurring. I didn't I didn't see all of
that. I see you.

(40:40):
You look like a weird aunt or something.
No, I feel like these are drawings.
Well I'm also making a huge assumption that she made these
drawings after her revival and Ifeel like it's something that
she because she said she can't sleep.
So I'm assuming these are maybe some images that are keeping her
awake, keeping her from sleeping.
These are like memories, like snippets of memories I would

(41:02):
think. Yeah, she's trying to exercise
her trying to bring up because she doesn't remember.
And even though the one guy in the interview said he blinked
and then he woke up and like it was really quick for him, it
doesn't mean it was like that slew.
Of drugs. Yeah, that too.
Yeah, that too. Doesn't mean it was like that
for everybody either. No, but.
Well, let me show you the photo of the room and we can zoom in

(41:25):
on a couple of things. Yeah.
Yeah, do that. Do that.
I figured you guys would want. To.
Well. There's some specific things I
do want to talk about it. Was giving it was giving to.
Do the drawings after she revived.
Thank you. Thank you.
Thank you for that. It was giving from a little bit
like Victor. You say giving.
Yeah. I love how they're coming off

(41:47):
the page. Like.
It's so chaotic in her mind she can't even contain it to the
piece of paper. That's cool.
It's cool set work. Yeah, very cool.
It it there is a kind of, it's giving actually stranger things
if you've ever watched it. I'm trying to use the
terminology Bridget. Sorry my face is so huge.
I'm trying to look really close at these three on the diagonal

(42:09):
that are sort of similar. Yeah.
Wait, which are you talking about?
Sorry, the three. Dope down that one and then go
on a diagonal upward. Yeah, they're all.
Through that one, that one to the right.
Dave. I'm pointing at them like you
know where I'm pointing. To the right, Dave, to the
right. That that one.
Oh, these three. There you go.
There you. Go Yeah, they're very.
Similar. I wonder if it's like light

(42:31):
refraction through water. Water.
It does look like what she wouldsee from underwater.
Yeah, maybe. Kind of, yeah.
I can see that. A lot of this looks like when
you shine a black bright light with your eyes barely closed,
you can see like the vein works in your eyelid, etcetera,
etcetera. There's a lot of that going on.

(42:52):
Do you guys know what I'm talking about?
You ever just close your eyes and and have a bright light
shine in front of it? I mean if.
You just me. No, just you OK?
I don't doubt you, Dave. I just no.
Or like or like the moon. Like she's underwater looking at
the moon. Maybe, Yeah, yeah, OK, Moon,

(43:12):
something, something in the water like a plant or something
could also. I don't know.
I don't know. Let me rattle a couple of
factoids a little bit as you're looking at this room.
So the three that you pointed out in diagonal right the from
bottom to the top here. So the tendrils are pointing
inward, whereas the other ones, the sun, let's say, or sun or
whatever, are pointing outwards.The tentacles, we'll just call

(43:33):
them, or cilia or hair or whatever.
So there's that effect going on.You'll note that.
Do you see that that four? That circle of four?
Circles. Flower Membrane.
It's repeated on the wall. Correct, right, right.
You see that in different spots.That looks a lot like cell
division. So when you're, let's say you
have a child there starts out with one cell and then two and

(43:55):
there's sure cell genesis basically that's what that kind
of looks like to me. There are other things that I
wanted to know, specifically this symbol.
So this symbol is called a unicursal hexagram basically.
So you know what a pentagram is?It's the five pointed unicursal
5 pointed star. This is a unicursal 5-6 pointed
star. Basically, it's so that you can

(44:16):
create it without having to liftfrom the page.
It's not like the mag and David,the Star of David, but instead
of two triangles inverted and making a star, it's just one
line. OK, now what does it mean?
It basically means a union of opposites.
Keep that in mind. I don't know what it means in
terms of the show, but I this iskind of like what we do, right?
I'm going to go to the Google AIand read off a couple of things.

(44:38):
No, because it's no. It's an amount of things I
actually dug into, and so it wasvery, very helpful.
Unicursal Hexagram 6, pointed sothat could be drawn in one
continuous line. Represents several concepts,
most notably the union of opposites and the journey of the
soul towards enlightenment. It symbolizes the divine union
between humans and the divine, and the integration of opposing

(44:58):
forces such as spirit and matter, the ether, and what
exists, right. It also signifies the macrocosm,
the universe or the external world.
Okay, here's a more detailed breakdown in the AI description
of the amalgam of all these resources.
The union of opposites means like the traditional hexagram,
the universal hexagram represents the joining of
opposing forces. This could be fire and water,

(45:20):
male and female, or spirit and matter.
Journey of the soul is in the next category.
The continuous line of universalhexarium is interpreted as a
symbol of the soul's journey towards enlightenment or its
ultimate goal, emphasizing transformation and spiritual
evolution. So this is the first stage of
that journey. Macrocosm in occultism This came

(45:42):
up a lot when it came to the unicursal hexagram.
The hexagram can represent the macrocosm contrasting with the
pentagrams representation of themicrocosm, the individual so the
collective versus the individual, the Thelma.
The unicursal hexagram is strongly associated with the
Aleister Crowley's, the occultist Aleister Crowley
system of ceremonial magic and the religion of Telema, where it

(46:05):
often appears with a rose in thecenter representing the
pentagram and five elements. Yeah, it's like, was Captain
Planet Heart? Anyway.
Anyway, other interpretations inthe TV show Supernatural.
Sorry, I like Supernatural. I know.

(46:25):
I'm kidding. I'm kidding.
It's known as the Aquarium Star and represents, quote UN quote,
the men, the Men of Letters organization signifying power in
connection to Atlantis. It also appears in other media
radio. Yeah, it's all made-up, OK.
Yeah, this is all the other. Interpreters that has no weight
here. It's the last one, so you might
as well let me have fun with it.Why can I ever have fun?

(46:46):
Because it's past my bedtime, that's why.
Well, it's a good if. I talked about divorced ad
trading cards. That's true.
That's true. We did talk about divorced ad
trading cards. Thank you, audio opera, by the
way. I had to burn that into my skull
to kind of remember it. Let's read the question.
So there's that podcast is in here.
Hello. Hi, thank you for joining.

(47:07):
And they ask, do you think the nature of their deaths determine
the level of primal violence they display upon revival?
Big. Eyeballs.
She says I also I came late fromwork.
Sorry if you answered this already.
No, we did not talk about this yet.
So let me answer the question bystarting out with another bit of

(47:29):
notes that I figured I wanted toask a question about this
teacher lover as you want to call the guy teacher lover,
professor lover using. Real names.
Right, exactly. His name is Aaron, by the way,
in case you're wondering. Don't care.
Teacher, lover. His wife?
The person afflicted with cancer.
Sad wife. I had a flu, she says, keeping
up appearances. We thought it was drug dealing,

(47:49):
whatever. But could it be that she's also
revived and she cast of cancer so she will forever have cancer?
Well, that's what I was wondering about the guy in the
crematorium situation. Did he?
Die from the did the. Bible happen at the moment that
he died in the because then doesthat mean he's on fire forever?
That seems horrible. You're.

(48:09):
Asking whether he died of the crematorium or you're.
Right, you're right, it totally ruins my whole theory.
OK, you. Know why?
Because he could have been exactly like he was.
The story he was relying about the one guy who died because his
pain receptors weren't working. Whatever.
No, no, it's OK. No, that throws it out.
Because she, because Rami mentioned scars.
If you die with scars, you keep them.

(48:30):
You still have them? Yeah.
OK, does Arlene have the old lady we're talking about?
Right. Was she in a mania?
Does she suffer from dementia? There's a whole host of things.
She's dementia plus the lack of pain plus the heightened
strength equals terrifying. I'm really stuck on like the sad
wife. Let's say she did die of her
cancer, but then it was during those two weeks and so now she's

(48:52):
revived. Does she still have the camera?
I'm making an assumption we don't know if she's revived.
I'm inclined to say no though. Well, but M still has her brutal
bone disease even though she's revived.
There you go. That's also true, but she's able
to heal. She is.
Very quickly like her own break easily, but then they heal

(49:14):
quickly. Would you just be in a constant
loop of like having cancerous cells that are like building and
then healing and then building and healing over and over and
that's. What I'm saying the reason I'm
inclined to say no about the cancer because also mentions
that the drugs don't work on heranymore like they did.

(49:35):
So obviously something physiological changed like at a
chemical level, which cancer would affect you.
Her bones might still be brittle, but then they'll heal.
So and cancer is at the cellularlevel versus I don't, but
technically that's. One cell.
So it's like that's. True, I'm.
Not really sure, that's a reallygood question.
And that thing I was pointing out and we still have this thing

(49:56):
on the screen, but like the thing I was talking about with
with regards to cell division, right?
Well, OK, what if you could stopcell because our cells divide
all the time. Right, that's why we regrow
skin. Right.
It starts at Genesis, right? Like when you're being a human
or starting to become a human, but it still continues, right?
And then cells, we have to have cells senescence, basically
cells dying in order to compensate for the replication

(50:17):
of cells. And eventually that process gets
hyper attenuated so that you grow older.
So you you're killing cells faster than you're generating
cells or forget how that works essentially.
But anyway, what if your cells stopped dividing now?
Would that mean that the cancer cells that you have would just
stay, right? Because cancer is the division
of cells, healthy cells. They're healthy, but if they're

(50:40):
rapidly healing I assume they'redividing.
I didn't say that they were dying though.
They just stop. They don't separate, they don't
die, right? It's the two things, right?
Because I said senescence and generate and division, right?
If they stop dividing, but they also stop dying.
How do they heal? Well, it's like restoring from a
backup. That's the thing, Dave, I could
get behind that. If they weren't healing, they

(51:01):
just weren't being injured or impervious to wounds.
Do you see what I'm saying? Like then I could get behind
this like cell. Stuff like instead of being cut,
they wouldn't get cut at all. We clearly they're, they're
cutting themselves, but they're resetting, right?
The the cells are resetting to their default state, let's say
the state of. Regenerating instead of

(51:21):
regenerating. They're just coming back
together. OK, I can.
I can get behind that OK. Except in the case of Arlene,
no, no. That was.
Definitely regeneration. In the case of Arlene it would
be OK. I'm getting instructions to re
jigger everything that was in the default state, Eva Ramin
says. Depending on the severity of the
issues, how long it'll take for you to completely heal.

(51:44):
Yes, and she had her head loppedoff so.
Yeah, I know. I was really mad about that when
the brain started growing back and I was like, Dave is right.
Wait. What am I right about?
You had said it in the previous episode.
You were like, I don't know, shemight not be dead.
She might be coming back. And I was like, so as soon as I
saw that, I was like, Dave was right, cursed.
Also more scary because like. It's terrifying.

(52:05):
I ain't going to stop her. This is Return of the Living
Dead. This is you can't stop them.
And that's more. Horrifying.
Well, I'm concerned more for thepeople people afflicted than I
am for the people around them. Instinctually, we want to be
afraid of the people, and the show does a great job of
marginalizing them, or at least saying these people are going to

(52:25):
be marginalized, so let's make it as normal as humanly
possible. Clearly that one woman is
thinking what a lot of people are also about the revived, and
maybe even Wayne himself is thinking about the revived, by
the way that they're scary and we need the governor.
He called, He went over the mayor Dillish, who we all agree
maybe is super sexy. He went over his head to talk to

(52:46):
the governor because the governor owed him a favor,
apparently. So what I'm trying to say is
he's scared and he needs help with Arlene and he thinks this
is going to be a bigger problem than just the one person.
But you're busy reading the chatand hearing what I'm saying.
I am because we're getting a good response.
Yeah, of course it's Kevanshi. I think the guy with the teeth

(53:06):
answers some of those questions.His teeth kept growing back to
the level of decay in which he died.
We see that in Arlene, and we see it in what's his name?
So his body regenerated, but to the point of death and remained
in stasis, I think is what we were all getting at.
But yeah, yeah, Dave was just presenting like a different
scientific. Or like a more technical
explanation for stasis? Yeah, a more computer we

(53:29):
restored from backup disk #14. Speaking computer lingo.
I I am very interested in this picture on the screen to the
right. This one, right?
Yes. What if they're a bunch of these
together? I don't know, it's like, what am
I looking at? Some are going in, some are
going out, reaching out, reaching in, reaching out,

(53:54):
reaching in, maybe, I don't know.
And then looks like a hive of these circles, let's say.
It almost looks like tumors. I was.
Thinking like boils, blisters and boils.
OK, OK, This is going to be a reach.
OK? But if you let's go with a tumor
saying we've touched on cancer, what if you could spread cancer?

(54:15):
And what if you could spread it with specific instructions, like
putting a person's cells in stasis like Kevin?
She said. Well, if people are coming back
with their own superpowers basedmaybe maybe, she says with
something to do with like how they died.
Yeah, if they're coming back with these special abilities,

(54:36):
then maybe sad wife could like touch someone and give them
cancer that. 'D be crazy.
Oh. My God, that may be.
Absolutely insane. Like I just I laughed so hard I
actually might have to be cancerpowers.
Anyway, thanks Kevanshi. It the process is called

(54:57):
mitosis, the cell division. So thank you.
One word instead of several. Well.
Luke is coming in with some. Facts.
Here. OK, this is correct, but I'll
clarify further that revivors regenerate to the point that
they actually revived. OK, this becomes an important
point to one of the future characters, but won't spoil

(55:17):
anything. That is super interesting.
That's super. Interesting.
Oh, Luke, like a writer. Just he just wants to.
Keep the wait so he's that guy on fire forever.
Oh no. That's terrible.
So when he so he was on fire when he revised.
Yeah. That's brutal.
So he's. Just running around town set and

(55:38):
everything on fire. That's why he was running
around. He was stuck.
That's why he was. Still on fire.
We need to see this guy again. He's just running around on
fire. Well, he wasn't as on fire when
he was on the road. Yeah, he wasn't.
Still on fire, right That. Would be horrible.
That Bridget would be. Bridget Rachel is ginger, so my

(55:59):
heart burns there too. Oh.
My gosh, whatever. Oh my goodness, I was just going
to say again how much I appreciate having these
interesting questions posed and then getting some answers while
then offering me more questions and mystery to hold on to.
That you can appreciate this is.Wonderful storytelling.

(56:21):
It's good formulaic. Like now that.
You're not like, not like 2 Wonderful.
Stories. Yeah.
This is a good viewer and TV show relationship that is
happening right now. It's like you have a question.
Well, I'll answer it in the nextepisode so you don't have to
wait forever, but I'm not going to answer every question.
Not every question, but here's some I love it.

(56:43):
I love it. And I never thought that that
would be something that I had toknow that I appreciated, but now
I do. And so I I know this and I love
it. Great job.
I do have two things 1. I talked so long.
Very small things, I promise you.

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One is not Stephen Ogg, but Blaine farts.
What is his name? Blaine.
Blaine farts. That's his name now.
Forever his name, Blaine farts. Blaine Abel farts is the name.
So we bump into Blaine Abel twice in this episode.
Why do we bump into him? The first time is because
Cooper. Cyprus is law.
I'm assuming his last name is Cyprus.

(57:25):
We'll just go with that. But he bumps into Blaine Abel in
the woods after hearing twice inthis, once in the last episode,
again in this episode. Animal noises, just like
dinosaurs in the forest. Yeah, like weird animals.
Yeah, yeah. Just wanted to throw that out
there. Something to think about.
Because it's like you hear it and then you forget about it.

(57:46):
Like, just like the lady, we're acting like zombies are normal.
We're acting like dinosaur noises are normal.
Wayne doesn't hear it, but Cooper hears it anyway.
That's a small thing. It's not like a frequency only
younger people can hear because you know you lose the
frequencies as you get older. True.
Yeah, well, especially as you grow up, right, you can hear
both frequencies as a kid, but when you get older you you tend

(58:07):
to hear one over the other as male versus female.
But anyway. This is true.
It's. What I just.
Said no, but he has the. Male versus female distinction
and. All I wanted to say about that.
And then say your next thing, stop it.
Just say. Bridges like wait, hold on
bridges is the face. What's?

(58:29):
Your next thing. The next thing is how much are
you enjoying? First of all, the romantic
dynamic between Dana Cyprus and Ibrahim Remy.
Oh my God. Shipping them so hard, so hard.
I love the awkwardness. That last bit in the car ride,
he goes. We should do this more often.
Give you a ride, you know? This didn't he's and he's the

(58:53):
one to point out how awkward she's making it.
He goes awesome. Awesome, bye.
It's so good. It's so good.
I'm I love it like. How accurate is that?
Like if we didn't have significant others and we had to
date again, that's us essentially, right?
That's how it would be. Oh, dumb and awkward.
Very much. So.

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I noted that in the first episode as they were hooking up
in the car. It's like that's how people our
age hook up. It's not pretty.
It's weird at our age now. Oh, Rachel.
Yeah, you can give us some. What?
What's that supposed to mean? I.
Don't know. I don't know.
Is it that your? I don't know.

(59:34):
No. Is that your Lord?
No. It's gross.
OK, second thing. Second, there's a second part to
this part. Which is it's three things now,
OK. No, it's Part B of the second
part, which is Nella and Wayne and Wayne, Sheriff Wayne
Cypress. That was.

(59:55):
I thought there was something there.
Oh, I'm shipping that too. 'Cause his wife had only died 2
years prior. Yeah.
So I think. That the bar owner.
Nella is the bar owner. The bar is called Nella's.
Nella and who? And Wayne Cypress, the sheriff.
Oh hot grandpa. OK.
You know you'd said that offlineand we only just mentioned it,

(01:00:15):
Hot grandpa in this episode. Yeah, we never got to say in the
1st. I did not know his name was
Winnie his. Name is Hot Grandpa.
That's hot, grandpa. Always.
Forever. Yep.
OK, that's now that you know we're talking about, what do you
think of the ship? No, I don't.
I don't ship. I don't ship Grandpa and Nella.
I think it's just a friendly. You're saying you want them all

(01:00:38):
to yourself. No, because then he's going to
die. Oh well.
You never know. No, I don't know.
I guess maybe. Rachel, how do you feel about
that? Oh, this is true.
Loophole. No, I don't know, maybe.
For the audience rationally likes people who die in real
life. True, which is weird to say.

(01:01:00):
It is so true it's scary. Maybe I wasn't paying very close
attention to the. Interaction, but I didn't see.
It's a very small scene. She's giving him a pep talk
about how he's treated the situation and he's.
Like my family's falling apart, yeah.
Everything's falling apart. Yeah, everything's falling.
But then she's just like being abartender.

(01:01:21):
She's like, chin up. I don't disagree with you.
She's she's a babe though, and he's hot grandpa, so it's like,
why not, you know? Babes.
Babe, bartender and hot grandpa.Let's add another log to that
fire, because Nella is the one who instantly calls Dana when
she clearly has a. Relationship with their family.

(01:01:42):
We just haven't. We just haven't explored it yet.
Doesn't call Wayne for specific reasons because he's crazy.
She likes him, but she knows what to do.
She's like, OK, if I'm if I'm going to get him out of this
without getting her in trouble, then I'm going to call her
sister. Yeah, exactly, exactly this,
exactly, I'm thinking. Read the last few things from
the chat and we'll sign off. OK, Luke says.

(01:02:02):
Thanks so much for watching and supporting the show.
Thank you. Thank you.
Thank you for showing. Off.
Say hi to your wife for me because she's an amazing
supporter of your. You're so sweet.
Excited to see what y'all think going forward, so thank you one
for being here too. We're excited, it's fun and we
like it. It's so much fun.
So there's that. Podcast says this show is

(01:02:24):
everything. Like Luke said, no spoilers.
I'll make sure to refresh on thecurrent episode the next time
you do this. Well.
Thank you. Well, that leads us into if you
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And also thank you to so There'sThat podcast for also being
here. That's right, Kevanshi.
So Jacqueline of all trades? And Luke Boyce, thank you.
Writers creator, Showrunner of Revival.
And the other mystery, four people, because we were, we were
all the way up to like 7 at one point.
We'll never know. So there were there were some

(01:04:16):
some lingerers. Some single digits.
I don't know if you want to advertise ever.
She's excited. We're in a high amount of seven
people. Hey, two of which are you, by
the way, just so you know. That's why I that's why I said
like 4. Two of them are me and Rachel.
Wait, if I open another tab up here that'll give us a nugget I.

(01:04:38):
Don't think that's how it works.In any case, we'll see you real
soon, everybody. Take care.
Can't wait to talk with an episode next week, which will
probably be Monday night. I think maybe Monday night next
week live. Tuesday night next week, live.
Tuesday, Tuesday, Tuesday, which?
Will be episode 3 of this amazing series that we'll.
It'll have to be Tuesday becauseI cannot do Wednesday.

(01:05:01):
It was very ominous. Take care everybody.
We'll see you real soon. Bye.
Bye. Thank you so much for making it
to the end of yet another episode of Squawking Dead, this
one covering Revival's second episode of its inaugural season
entitled Keeping Up Appearances.Speaking of keeping up
appearances, we did not think that we would be covering
another series. We thought we'd actually have an
honest break for a little while,maybe San Diego Comic Con, which

(01:05:24):
is next week covering the panelscoming out of that pertaining to
actually The Walking Dead, DarylDixon, which is probably the
next series that we're going to be covering in September.
It's the third season. We thought we'd have time to
refresh the website and our merch store, change providers,
etc. We had some really good plans
with that. I hope we still can, even though
we're covering revival. I hope you're enjoying that.

(01:05:44):
We are, and I hope you're enjoying the series as much as
we are. We're getting ready to record
our thoughts on both episodes four and five in just a few
hours here on Saturday as I'm recording this July 19th, 2025.
Well, we've reached a portion ofthis podcast where we credit our
great M survivors and whispers tier members in that order.

(01:06:06):
It's a little perk that they receive when they join a
membership. There's a little recognition
starting with the great M tier, the greatest ish tier we have at
Real Ryan GM on Instagram and X skipping the survivors tier
because we don't have any. We've got in the whispers tier
at Kim dot Rowley, the number one on Facebook and at Skylar
Rose PW on both Instagram and X.Really happy to be covering the

(01:06:28):
series and I'm so thrilled to becatching up to the week to week
as we started this series after the third episode I think aired
and we've been trying to cover acouple every week to try to
catch up. And if we finish recording 4:00
and 5:00 today, we can maybe record 6 before the 7th episode
airs on Thursday nights on sci-fi Network.

(01:06:49):
Speaking of, for a little while you were able to watch the
series for free on syfy.com/revival.
However, as the episodes fly by,it seems like the older episodes
stop becoming available. So if you're already watching
the show, I would recommend either watching ahead or just
keeping up with the current episode releases as well as I

(01:07:12):
think new episodes take a while to show up.
If you are watching for free on the website again, it's also
available on Peacock Video on Demand if you have a cable
subscription. Other than that, I sincerely
hope you're enjoying the series as much as we are and maybe
we'll even get you as well as other folks involved with the
show in the next live stream discussion on on our YouTube
channel. Well, and if you don't want to

(01:07:33):
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