Revival |Episodes 4 + 5| "Run Along Little Lamb" + "Triage"

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talk to you about this lovely series that we've been covering
for the last few weeks or two weeks.
Yeah, two weeks, Three. The three weeks.
I think it's two weeks. Oh, maybe it's two weeks.
It's 3. Because we're covering episodes
4 and 5, right? Sure, called Revival.
And yes, we're covering episodes4:00 and 5:00 today, so if you
haven't watched episode 5, you probably have.

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But if you haven't come back, we'll still be talking about
episode 5 while we're talking, so by the time you're done
watching it, we'll still be talking about it and you'll be
able to join in on the fun. But if you happen to have caught
episode 5 along with episode 4, well, welcome to the show and
we're here to talk about the episode titles.
Run along the Lamb and Triage. Wait, when did we cover episode

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3? It's only been two weeks.
We covered the 1st 2 episodes last week.
Episode 3 on Monday was no Tuesday and then we covered this
up. It's still Saturday, so it's
still been two weeks only. Oh, friend of the robots.
Rachel, how does the titles of these episodes relate to these
episodes that we're covering today?
Oh geez, OK, the first one was about a lamb.

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Run along little get. Along Oh yeah, run along little
limb. Which is what Stephen Ogg says
to Martha, right? No Martha, Dana and.
Martha Owen. Yeah, it's what he says to
Martha. He was directed at Martha, Yeah.
At the junkyard, I guess or whatever, I guess he has a
junkyard. He has a like a tow truck and a
junkyard and a. Yeah, because he was talking
about towing. He got a call to tow a vehicle,

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so obviously that's his. To Alonzo's job.
We heard the name of the episodein the episode.
Yeah, seems to be the case for every episode.
And what about triage though? Was triage mentioned?
I don't think by name, but I mean there's obviously the
literal triage situation going on with Dana needs, you know,
immediate help. There's definitely some more

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meaning behind the word triage that could apply.
I mean, we're looking at, I don't know, the whole town
really in terms of who needs theimmediate help here.
Is it the revivers? Is it the non revive?
What do we call the the normies?The normies, normies.
The CDC people, Do they need help first?

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Is it law enforcement? Do they need help figuring
everything out? I guess depending on which
category you fit into, you feel like you need the most immediate
help. Yeah, run along the lamb.
We have to help this person 1st and that person second.
I guess that's what ended up happening anyway.
Like in a sense, M kind of savesthe day across the two episodes,

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whereas Dana was trying to save the day in a way at first.
Almost, almost kills a man, but yeah, sure.
Yeah, sure, sure. The comic book versus the show.
The show has become vastly different from what I am
currently reading and there was a bit of an indicator in the
first 2-3 issues because there was some weird stuff happening

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that I'm like, you don't remember the.
Rachel of the Dark About. What is this?
Because I just kept telling you guys it's just weird, that's
all. It is just weird is like, I just
look at it and I'm like what am I looking at?
That continues. I am still confused as to what
I'm looking at, but I keep looking at it, so there's that.
There are many more Reviver centric stories occurring in the

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comic book. I'm already like halfway through
issue 7 and I still haven't evengotten to the Czech Brothers.
Oh, them showing up even. Yes, correct.
This is like very different now the Czech brothers are in it.
I flipped forward because I was like, well, how far do I need to
read to like get caught up? So I was like looking through
panels and I do end up finding them.

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They're redheads, all of them. So it was like I saw them and I
was like, are these the Czech brothers?
And I see like Andrew and Anthony like the names.
And I was like, OK, those must be the Czech brothers.
And that's not until like later.So I, I'm like, I don't know how
far into this. I'm going to have to read to
like kind of get to the story point that we're at.
There's a lot of other reviver centric stories.
So either those will come in later as kind of like standalone

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plots in the story, or they won't come up at all.
And then I will have like so much more information to give
you that's just unrelated to anything.
So we'll just have to wait and see.
Now Blaine is in the story. I didn't realize it at first.
I kind of added like I had like a thought that maybe it was him,
but I wasn't sure. I am going to tell you that he's

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kind of a flim flam man. Seems obvious on the show too.
He is younger in the comic. You sing, Steven.
I was old. He's well, yeah, he's the D bag
with the Limp Bizkit cell phone ringer.
The ringtone. Yes, I told you that there was
like a Limp Bizkit ringtone thatwas featured.
Like it was all written out the lyrics and it's like written out

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the lyrics, you know, it's like the little when they do like the
like staticky edge bubbles and it's got like little music notes
on each end. OK, in the comic book, I thought
it was in the show, and I'm like, when did that happen?
It didn't. It didn't.
That's Blaine. It should have happened.
That's Blaine. I will also tell you, I don't
know, I'm like, I'm torn on telling you.
Blaine is like going to be out of Commission for a long time in

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the comic book. I'm just going to say that.
OK, so. Whatever is happening now is
like not happening. Whatever is happening now is not
happening in the government. He's a flim flam man.
What what I when I say that, I mean that he is advertising
himself as an exorcist. Seems accurate.
He provides exorcisms. So he's called by people and he

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goes and he provides these exorcisms.
Except he doesn't, because. He doesn't know what he's doing
because. It's not real.
All he does is when a teenage girl who gets bored in the
country claims that she's possessed and starts looking up
Latin on her computer and doing weird stuff in front of her
parents. He comes in and then he chokes
them out and says stop doing what you're doing.

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We both know that you're lying. And that's how he does perform
his exorcisms. Now what I will say and I, I
told Rachel, I think this alignswith the view of the show.
Blaine is seeking answers and proof of his own faith.
That's like his big push. I could see that.

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So he believes in his own BS in a way.
No he doesn't believe in his ownBS he's just like this is fake
but I'm looking for the real deal.
OK, OK. That's fair.
I could see that kind of being the case for the TV show
version. So I feel like it's probably
comparable. It's just different because he's
probably more like Martha's age and he's like a younger guy.

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He's like in his 20s. Elaine Abel in the comic is in.
He's that's significantly younger than Steven, I know.
I know. 30 years, probably younger.
I know, I know, I know. It's weird.
He said younger. I was like, oh, like slightly
like 30 or 45 or. No, he looks like he's like he's
young anyway. If we want to tie it into the
comic lore, say he sees the the light in the woods that he

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mentions to Mike. You saw it, right, Martha?
Of course you saw it the the orbin Martha's drawings maybe, or
something to that effect, but she can't seem to recall.
But and then he sees it too. And of course, we're seeing a
lot of light in these last two episodes.
I think that that is in the comic also.
But it's very weird from your perspective.
Whatever that weird. Weird, you're just left going.

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What is that? What am I looking at?
What am I looking at? Yeah, so there you go.
So I'm not going to say anythingelse about it.
Tess says the comic book is muchmore off story than what we're
seeing so far. And that is correct.
Yes, very accurate. She also says she loves
Rachelle. Fan.
But I also had to pull out a fanbecause I wanted to be just like

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Rachel. So last episode when we're
talking about the comic book forthe first time versus the show,
I had mentioned mung people in Wisconsin that it was really
prevalent in the comic book. That has continued in the comic
book. So there is still like a real
prevalence. I had said that there was some
racism between the Ditmans and their mung neighbor.

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Their mung neighbors shows up however, at Terrye funeral and
tells that he's so sorry for hisloss and Ben hugs him and is
like thank you so much. It's interesting to see like the
growth of some of the charactersas we're going through, but the
mung aspect is still very prevalent.
What is Martha's roommate's nameagain?

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Kay Mathurin. This wife doesn't exist.
Taking notes helps. Doesn't exist that I know of.
She does not have a roommate. She's like in school and is she
have a roommate at all or? She is in college.
She does live in the dorms. No, she does not have a roommate
that I am aware of. She also has the affair with
Aaron Weimer. That is a thing in the comic

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book. Aaron's wife does not have
cancer in the comic. Her name is Nithya, yeah.
Yes, and that is her name. Aaron is teacher lover, by the
way. Rachel Yes.
And you called his wife? Sad woman, sad wife.
I think I called her sad wife. Yeah.
So I'm just being the Rachel translator, my grandpa.
Who else? That's in my notes, by the way,

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just like it's it's transcendent.
So it can help everybody. He.
Is actively cheating on his wifeand it seems like he is the
instigator. But when you say instigator.
Of the relationship, it would appear that he pursued Martha,
which just seems to be the case in the show also.
Yeah, based on little clips thatwe get.
I spotted a really cool detail in the show as it relates to

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everything. It happens in both episodes, but
in the latter episode there's mention again of something.
I was like, oh, why would you mention the black deer case in
the first episode? I think that was.
So weird too. And Dana having investigated it,
right, but it had. But it appears again in both
episodes, but in the second episode, particularly near the
end. Actually, in my notes, this is

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what's written. The John Doe burnt face
Crematory ex cop is this guy that's running around getting
all the Intel. The thumb drive from the Weimar
residents drops it into May Tau,the investigative reporters
passenger seat. He wants her to have it.
In that last scene, burnt guy John Doe ex cop guy is in Dana

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Cyprus's house and he fishes outspecifically the Rose black deer
missing persons report. In the missing persons report,
it mentions the following last seen dot dot dot because there's
like attending creative writing program in the university and if
Aaron Weimar is the creative writing professor and he's like.

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Sleeping with students and then.Exactly.
Getting rid of them. And wait, there's more though,
because in the last episode, which is episode 3, Nithya
Weimar says because it was keeping up appearances, right?
Or is that the second episode? No, I can't remember which, but
she says keeping up appearances.In the other way, check was
episode 3. Right, right, which is the one I
just released by the way. So reality check was episode 3

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in two. She says keeping up appearances
and you find out who she is and she has cancer, etcetera.
What does that mean? Because if M is not the only
person he's had coitus with or whatever, and not Jesse, Jesse
black deer is the father of Roseblack deer went missing and Rose
black deer was another one of his victims.
What is he trying? What is he looking for?

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Is he the the root of everythingthat's happening here?
Every time we reveal more, I feel like this is this goes a
whole lot deeper than just, you know, people coming back to
life. No, Somebody did something,
somebody's responsible. And I want to know who it is.
I'm a detective. Could Aaron Weimar, teacher
lover, could he be trying to cure his wife's cancer or

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something? Like the impetus of maybe all
this philandering is not really him trying to get his rocks off.
And he seems to be in cahoots with somebody that is out to get
him or out to expose him. Clearly expose him.
Yeah. We heard him on the phone a
couple of times talking to somebody about well, if I'm
going down, you're going down with me.
The first person that jumps to mind is his TA, right, James

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Anderson, because he used his e-mail to reorder the ring or
whatever. But obviously he's implicated in
that, whatever, you know, so whynot more and his?
Office is trash too. Wait.
Who's oh? Sorry not his, I meant his as in
Aaron's office is trash too. Yeah.
So I mean, somebody looking for something, what kind of he's
like a philosophy professor or something, is he?

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Philosophy. I don't remember, it was in the
first episode. He's.
Creative writing, Yeah. In.
In the comic book, but I don't know, I think.
That's I think that's true on screen too.
Either way, it's he's not a scientist like he's not out here
creating a medicine and sciency things, but.
She might be she might be in research or she might know

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something. His wife, Nithya, she's she's a
therapist. Therapist.
Well, she's. A therapist, right?
She might be a. Psychiatrist in a comic.
Book she's not, but yeah, in theshow she is.
That would make. Her a PhD, not an MD, yeah.
Well, she could be an MD. It's not crazy to think that she
could have a doctorate or something like that.
I don't know. Just thinking about it.
And it goes back to like the drawing that Martha had of the

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what some people said tumors. And on the right side of her,
the room, as you look at remember, we were examining her
room, there was a drawing on theright side of the room that with
a head that looked like tumors or something like that.
Or oh. That thing you said?
Boyle's Rachel. There's something going on here
with him that's deeper than justan affair, obviously.
And if Rose black deer is involved and it wasn't her

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father that killed her is Brody says this to M.
Oh yeah, The guy who killed his daughter, the black deer.
Regarding the black deer case, it's like, I love how like, the
most pertinent information is rattled off and something
interrupts it. Right.
Like, oh, the the revived because they don't have pain
receptors. They have heightened strength.
Yeah. They brought that up a lot in

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this episode too. Maybe 4.
No, I think it was five. It was 5.
They mentioned the strength likethe guy breaks the young kids
arm. Damon.
The meat smoking guy from the interview that Dilish had Damon
Manning meets on Main and. Then K mentions how strong M is
when she pops the tires. Well, they got.

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To the reasoning why these people have extra strength too.
I forget who mentions this, but it was strength under duress.
I think it was actually Carla Morrell, the assistant to
Ibrahim Ramin, who took his position basically as head of
the CDC operations in Wausau. Yeah.
The revived have excess strengthduring duress.

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So like, when you see Manning get upset, you know, Damon
Manning, he rushes Blaine Abel, and then the kid interrupts and
gets in the way. I mean, we're getting closer to
the reason why they focus so much on the kid.
Why? Yeah.
What is up with this kid? They keep shoving him into
scenes, but. He has that kind of face though,
right? Like he has a like a face.
He kind of like you do. Gravitate towards looking at

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him, but a lot of it I think is his facial acting 'cause he's
like he's in the background and he's like.
We have to explain it. He's in the video, he's like and
then den air. What?
Watch the video then, yeah. I'm.
Sorry I can't describe it. I don't know what.
I just like a face of warmer. He's a very curious face, right?

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More or less. Yeah.
Features. Yeah, this is the.
Youngest guy in this group too. Like they they purposely chose
this young actor to be part of this group.
They could have chosen anybody to play that part, but obviously
they wanted a younger kid. I, I, I think it's got to be for
a reason. Well, I mean some of them.

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Are things that we could probably say just based on our
own life and how like, oh, you know, young, there's a crisis of
young men and they don't feel like they belong in this
society. Yeah, sure.
I could see that. That's.
Largely feminized sort of thing.I don't know, I think maybe he
something might happen. I don't know.
I'm not quite sure yet. It's kind of like the.

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Innocence getting dragged along to along the ride to this crazy
ride that Blaine Abel's on. Basically yes.
Yes, I agree. I I have a couple more things,
just a few that I want to bring up.
Mae Tao, the reporter. Way bigger deal in the comic.
Book. Yes, actively investigating
what's going on with the Revivers.
Considered a huge deal now because she's the first reporter

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to break the news and the revivers because she happened to
be in the crematorium at the time of all that going on.
Randy. 'S Crematorium Randy's.
Back, Thank God. Anyway, I was so happy.
Can I ask you A? Question do you think that the
person calling Aaron is May Tao?It didn't seem very obvious,
obviously from like oh, what is this evidence this thumb drive

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on my oh. Like he's willing to talk about
what happened and she's going tobreak the case.
No, I think she's the one threatening Aaron Weimar.
I. Don't see that but.
I don't see that either, but I'mtrying to like pick out people
that we've seen, you know, and I'd.
Be more likely to believe it's Martha's roommate but anyway so

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the other big thing that I want to mention that the show has
failed to showcase it's a reallybig part of the comic book I
think it's a really interesting viewpoint too so I'm surprised
like the among. People you mentioned.
It's not at all the direction I was going in, but yes, no, it's
interesting in. Like OK, it's interesting that
they haven't mentioned it not inlike.
Oh, that's just an interesting fact about Wisconsin.

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This is like, why are you leaving this out of the show?
OK, they're quarantined. There's a barrier at the edge of
the city or whatever in the comic book is like the the
county edge or whatever because it's County Sheriff's Office.
Anyway, there are people posted to prevent people from getting
out, but really, people are trying to get in is the big

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thing. Oh yeah.
You mentioned this right as I was getting on, yes.
Because they seem to think that they'll be able to be healed or
this could save lives if they can get in.
And what's happening is now there's these big jam UPS.
Outside or inside? Outside.
And there's not enough sheriffs to cover.

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And so it's essentially saying like this might become riots to
get into the town, maybe that. Will happen, maybe and then.
Also Lester, the guy who has a very important data in this
episode, the old man who saw thekiller 2.
Bits of important data. The second, which we haven't
heard, he's like, I'm not done yet, Wayne.

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Well, yeah. And I can.
Only imagine what the rest of that is going to be.
Lester Mayjack is a celebrity Mayjack celebrity, and he is all
throughout the first couple issues of the comic book and
he's not at all been in the show.
And so I'm like, why has this guy not been in here and been

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in? Every episode and he.
Asks out the receptionist at thesheriff station.
You've seen that the first few episodes, right?
She is. Considerably younger in the
comic book. Yeah, I.
Think she's considerably youngeron the show too.
Nope. Dave even younger.
Oh, like oh, like 30s, like inner 30s.

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The same disparity as Stephen Ogg and M yes Dave like relative
to their age yes spread out across time why would.
You go out with him and she doesgo out with him and you know
what happens if he doesn't ask for a second date?
Oh, and yet she says that like he's so talented in bed.
Anyway. Reception.

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I love her, by the way. Oh yeah, I do too.
Just adorable, I do. Too.
Oh, you. Want to go with Dana Ibrahim?
Yeah. The only thing that would make
her better is if she had a thicker Midwestern accent.
That's all I really want out of her, honestly.
Yeah. But does She sounds kind of like
New York ish though, doesn't she?
Like it's not the. Yeah, it's almost like she's
doing the Ghostbusters thing. He's.

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Thinking the same thing. Ghostbusters, what do you want?
What's her? Name from Ghostbusters and I
can't remember her name now. Me.
Neither. I hate that.
I hate that about myself that I don't know quick better.
Jobs than this when I used. To do the thing to you, Dave,
when I'd be like show boss rightaway, boss.
Anything you say Ghostbusters, that's what it is.

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That's what it is. Who's?
Calling I will say Mayor Delicious is no longer delicious
in my book as of this last episode.
He crossed the line because he Idon't think he did.
Cross the line, Rachel. Will understand it what I'm
saying when I say it. Because he got in hot grandpas
face and he crossed the line. To be fair, we're denied your

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delicious laughter. I don't like it.
To be fair, hot grandpa's wrong.We're going to have a.
Fight now, because I think hot grandpa's right.
We're talking about Wayne Cypress, by the way.
Sheriff Wayne Cypress. He's grandpa wrong.
This is so weird and also the internment, the experimenting on
a prisoner wait. Wait, wait, wait.
Come on. Let's rewind.

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Let's start from scratch. Here's what I I take offense.
I think Dillash and his wife, Patty.
Not Patty. What was her name again?
Diane Oh wow. Rachel.
She got it like that, like if hecalls her die right like lady
die they both get in his face. She was a Princess.
You monster, but OK, yeah. That's why I said it that way.

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They both get in his face and have the gall to go like, we
were covering you and you were all upset about Patty.
And it's like, it's not the samething.
Covering for Patty wasn't a public health crisis, OK?
It's not the same thing. And.
Also, she didn't come back. Pro vaccine and pro mask.
I can hear it now. Whom?

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Me? Oh, Oh no, just kidding.
I'm just kidding, Dave. It was a joke.
It was a non topical joke. It would have been topical 5 for
me. Oh.
My I'm fanning myself. It would have been.
Topical Five years? Excuse me?
Anyway, I kind of said this in the last few episodes, like we
don't really know what's going on.
On the one hand, I'm in the corner of this series, does a

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concertedly great job of doing social commentary about, OK,
well, who is more scary people, which we often find the case.
Or is it the revived who are blameless, who have admitted it
across several episodes that something feels missing?
They don't feel particularly dangerous.
I feel evil things come up inside.

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No, nobody said that. I just feel.
Empty. They feel evil inside me.
I know they feel empty. They're not saying that I feel
like I feel like I want to hurt people and drink their blood.
They don't say any of that. They just have mild feelings of
like not feeling great, like maybe I don't feel like myself.
Something missing inside. There's a concerted effort
keeping you on the line about what the way they're coming

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from. You have these ingrained biases
because you love these shows. You know where the you've seen
this script before. You know where this is going to
go. They're going to turn out being
bad, obviously, right? No, maybe it's not that obvious.
Maybe you should like, stop being, you know, zombieist about
that zombophobic. I understand you're fighting the
other side of what you were justarguing for.

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I'm so confused. However, I don't see, like,
removing that completely from the universe.
Like these people, like, as in every single piece of property,
most don't know about zombie lore.
So you have to kind of give themgrace.
You have to be like, OK, they don't know the script like we
do. He's the sheriff.
He has to be concerned about everybody's health.
Everybody else can do whatever the hell they want, but the

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sheriff has to do their job. Have they?
Said the word zombie in the showat all.
Oh, wait, no. Have they mentioned Romero or
anything like that? No, but.
Didn't Blaine say something whenthey when he walked into that
meeting? What did he call him?
I feel like he was something along.
Oh, demons. OK.
Interesting because in the comicbooks there is an arcade game at

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one of the bars that Ibrahim is playing and it's like a zombie.
Shoot him up he may. See that?
And he says, because Dana's like, is doesn't that feel like,
inappropriate that you're doing?He's like, yeah, I guess it is a
little bit offensive that he's, like playing the zombie.
You shoot him up. And then they do mention, like,
Romero and other stuff when they're talking about people

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outside of this Marathon County area are wary of what's going on
and scared because of all of theRomero lore that exists in the
world already. There you go.
Pairing well with what? I'm thinking so.
But here's where Dillish crossesthe line.
OK, he says, well, with you and you're not paying kindness for

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kindness with Diane. And now she's registered.
Martha having an anger management problem and Dana
being a possible murder suspect.I guess the last great Cypress
died with Patty. Excuse me, Mr. Delicious Mayor
Delicious. That got him.
That got me. I was just like, you know what,
kudos for putting on airs and like, you know, being like,

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charming and beguiling and downright sexy.
But you crossed the line. You, you, you got in hot
grandpa's face and you, you saidsomething you can't take back to
be. Fair to play the other side.
I'm not saying that either one of them are right.
They're both wrong for a varietyof reasons.
Why is Wayne? Wrong.
Let's go with that. Why is?
Wayne wrong. Well, Wayne, he doesn't know it
yet, but he's a hypocrite because his daughter is a

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reviver and there's no way that he's going to, like do this
whole rigmarole with her. Now, if he does, I have insane
respect for him because that would be the right thing to do,
especially with all of the movesthat you've made so far.
But he was. Asked point blank.
And this is what causes Dillish to call him a monster.
Like a piece of work is what I think he calls him.
I have no doubt that he would register her, though at this

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point I don't. Know, because if it means that
they're going to be taken to an internment camp or experimented
on, I don't know that he would do that to his baby daughter who
he loves so much, who is so frail that he is constantly
worried about protecting. Maybe.
That's. Ultimately, like, what I'm
waiting for is to find out, like, does he have a set of
rules that he follows or do those rules change when he
decides that they change? Then that's what I want to know

(26:33):
about him. Tess says Steven is just kept me
pulled in just the way he so calmly invaded people's personal
space and how he nonchalantly gives the warning of what's to
come. She also complimented your fan.
Dave, thank you very much. It's really thanks to Rachel
that I have this fan to begin with.
Tess says who keeps covering up their misdeeds that's caused the

(26:53):
chain reaction to cause a major disruption in the flow of life
so they get the extra adrenalineboost.
Is it hints of him being a bigger character in the near
future? The young guy IA 100% think
that's what it is. Tess.
I think so too. Building.
Up to see if we're paying attention and gives them factor
and then the secretary from Ghostbusters was Janine and.

(27:15):
And that. Rachel could have a perfect.
The. Cosplay of Janine is what Tess
says. Yeah, she just lets her hair
grow red. You could do that.
You. Could do Janine.
For sure. Gaspastez.
Yeah. I could only she had.
A better New York accent. Are you waiting for her to do

(27:36):
it? I don't see what this is.
Kind of hoping she would try it,no?
Excuse me? Said it was bad.
So now you don't get it. You.
Never heard. My New York accent, you don't
know. If it's good or bad, we we, we.
We've known each other for a long time, been traumatized.
It's fine. Oh.
Wow, don't even have a New York accent so I.
Do and it's not good you. Don't you have a Jersey accent?

(28:00):
Oh. I used to have a Jersey accent.
Now you sound. Now you sound like neither.
Oh. That's, I feel, you know,
something's missing inside me, yeah.
It's your accent deep inside. Deep inside.
Right. It's.
Your accent. So CM Punk, huh?
Did you? Bridget.
How do you feel about that? I hate him.

(28:20):
I hate him so much. I hate him so much.
I will say it's. Anthony so.
Here's the thing. Here's the thing.
I hate CM Punk because I I hate him as a person.
I hate him as a person. I always have.
It's the straight edge storyline, too, that I just Dear
schmuck, what a what a. Self.
Righteous. Schmuck, schmuck.

(28:41):
Yeah. Exactly, Schmuck.
So I don't care for that, but I will will say that he is great
for a villain. Part.
It's why he makes a great heel in wrestling is because I want
to punch his face, see him. Punch your face.
Yeah, yeah. He's a punchable face I've
disliked. Him for so long.
It's really the straight edge thing.
I just, it's so self-righteous. I don't know.

(29:03):
I can't so you. Can't talk about your mere
existence. Makes me not want to drink.
Excuse me, see Bridget's face? Told you she's because.
It's because I. I guess I don't know.
It's because of my past. I'm really sure.
I'm like, you think you get to judge me?
What do you think is better thanme?
Gauss. Bastes and it beats him with the
telephone. I think the show takes place in

(29:23):
2009 because in the arrest list is from 2007.
The Black deer cases was in 2008.
The missing persons report was filed in 2008.
At least according to this episode.
The parking stub is in 2008 as well. 6:47 PM on December 18th.
Basically Jason, what's his name?
Jason Alexander. No, that not.

(29:44):
Not Seinfeld. No.
Not these. Pretzels are.
Making me. Thirsty.
How your accent's like one note,it's like and everybody's this
accent. George Costanza from Seinfeld.
It's. All I've learned to walk.
In here is. Television.
It's just television. That's all I know is what do you

(30:05):
think You're better than me? Hey, I'm walking here.
These pretzels are making me thirsty.
Give me. Thirsty.
It's everything. I know about New York.
We. We.
Said in the last episode that the arrest list, the drug bust
list was from 2007 it may be true so it was like from a year
prior to these events happening and now we're in 2009

(30:27):
essentially now I mentioned thisbecause CM Punk, OK this whole
thing with the CM Punk thing andthe pay phone and like how it's
obviously not New York City because.
What do you mean that didn't look like a house kitchen?
Emergency and a guy behind him that was this is like pre
hipster pretty much era. So like a large bearded man,

(30:47):
ginger bearded man behind him going it's an emergency doesn't
just doesn't fit the bill. Just doesn't seem like the type
of New York City goer without anaccent to excuse me, didn't even
sound like Janine Melnitz. So I think you should have
sounded like Janine Melnitz. I would have been more
believable. Hell's Kitchen?
Excuse me? No, not not really.

(31:08):
They don't prove also like why ever?
Since the Marvel Netflix shows, everyone thinks they can just do
Hell's Kitchen. Now where's?
Where's Daredevil? Where is he?
He's not there. So it's not New York City.
It's not happening. My point being is other I have
her actual point there. Why?
Why New York City? Why?
I don't know. It's such a weird choice.

(31:29):
You're a city in Wausau, but like, they're like.
We're really trying to sell big crime family.
So he goes to. Is it giving?
Big crime family, Chicago. Would have made more sense.
Detroit, Detroit, Chicago. I think that would have made
more sense to me, Like New York.City really cares about
expanding its It's OK, it's fine.
We've got it covered in the tri-state area.

(31:50):
We have it covered in New York, New Jersey, Connecticut,
sometimes Delaware, definitely Pennsylvania, like Philly.
We're fine. We don't need Wausau, WI 1000
miles away basically. Yes, yeah.
I did the math. No thanks.
My rant is over. My my my watch has ended.
I want. To talk about the glowing thing

(32:13):
that's kind of burning people's hands, I'd love.
To hear your theories. Actually, I'm not refrain from
saying anything during this, I do.
Have a theory, but it is wild. OK, I like it.
Like it, freak? Flag froth, fly or fry, as it
were. Fry.
Yeah, sure, Fry. So the.
Captions were saying things likeas he's walking towards this,

(32:37):
who's. He.
Glowing the young kid with Steveand.
I the broken arm. The broken arm kid, broken arm
kid. He's like, oh, he's officially
part of our group. Let's go anoint him.
And so they're walking towards this glowing thing and he walks
in and the captions are saying things like making noises and
moaning and like, you know what I mean?

(32:57):
It's like describing the sounds that are happening on screen.
And I was like, you saw Stephen Oxhant earlier, it was burned
and he alluded to some kind of burning branding.
Right. That's what it was.
That's what it was, yes. So it's so stupid.
We talked a couple episodes ago about the guy who came back in

(33:20):
the incinerator, and what if he was just perpetually on fire
forever? Now what?
What if it's him? But if they love him, I'm.
Pretty sure he's the shooter. He's the shooter.
No, he's. Not just.
Showed his burnt face. I know.
Brent's the shooter, so you're. Saying there's two people

(33:42):
running around. No, Brent.
Shot. I don't know why, but Brent shot
Brent. Brent.
The OK, yeah, let's do one, one thing just said.
Something. Why?
Wait, wait. Yeah, let's.
Put a pin the Brent thing, just put it in.
Put the print my. Name's Blame it on Brent.
Blame it. Let's go back to what you said
earlier about the Burning Man. So.
So the Human Torch is like. John Doe X Cop Human.

(34:04):
Torch is burning, human. So Crematory John Doe X cop that
stole the black dare case is theone who or maybe he was you say
the black Hey, well, she's saying.
He didn't do any of that. He's just on fire.
Well. OK, then you have to explain I
said it was. Wild.
If you think this is related at all, you have to explain the
moment that Cooper and Jordan had in their camping tent, where

(34:27):
there's this like thing out the glowing in the woods.
Is it the same thing with the animal noises and the moaning?
I don't remember. That part episode. 4 Basically,
they're out in the woods, no? I don't remember that part, but
we were talking about the the the Human Torch guy also.
I mean, I told you it was a wildtheory and it's probably most
likely wrong. But if the scarred face guy that

(34:48):
we saw, he's most likely not theone in the incinerator either.
Why? Well, because we know the
revived come back essentially how they were before, right?
So he wouldn't be burned. We got.
That extra Intel from Luke in our second episode.
Yeah, Second episode when he showed up.
Luke Boyce. Yeah.

(35:08):
And he said that the revives reset back to their post revived
state just after reviving, not before they revived.
Crematory man got his burns in the Crematory, right.
He didn't die in the Crematory. He got them as he was reviving.
So that's the state in which he'll stay forever.
You said before they died, Crematory guy revived, he was

(35:30):
burning. So that's why he's in this
constantly burnt state when he revived.
That's that's the state of whichthey revert, not before.
This is the. Only example of something
happening as they came back and still having it.
Even Rhodey had the infection onhis hand pre mortem right pre.
Mortem But during his revival, he still had it, right?

(35:51):
Yes. So when the guy was burned, he
had it. Before he died, forget.
About the because who care about?
Who cares about the? Because the state in which
you're in when you're being revived, that's the state you'll
stay forever. Forget about before.
The state in which you are beingrevived is the state that you'll
be in forever. So as Crematory guy was being
revived, he was burning. He was burnt.

(36:13):
He was burned to a crisp. That's the state in which he
will be forever. Unfortunately, that we figured
that out through Luke boys. Thanks, Luke Boyce.
He's kind of a spoiler. Want to be smart and be like
Dave figured it out, but no thanks, Luke.
Oh. My gosh, blame.
Luke Boyce. Anyway, so then because it could
it be, I don't know if he's still, he doesn't look like he's

(36:35):
still on fire, but maybe you're right, maybe it's not him.
Maybe it's just like a clay maskand it's Brent all along.
Maybe the mask that Brent, maybethe fire guy is wearing a Brent
mask about that. No, I don't.
I mean, obviously the guy with scars is investigating
something, researching something.
He's looking into something. The black.
I'm just saying the shooter in the woods was Brent.

(36:57):
Oh. But didn't we saw his face
though It's still it looked likethe ski mask with the burning
guy underneath it. We didn't.
See their face? I saw.
His face when she when M shoots him and he recoils slightly.
Turned to the side you saw, likethe side of a ski mask.
What do you say? He said it was a Mccray's gun.
Anyway, let's before we go to the Brent thing, we still should

(37:19):
talk about the thing that first of all, scarred, broken arm kid.
And obviously Bridget knows whatit is, doesn't want to talk
about it because it's in the comic and it's really, really
weird, no. No, I don't know, actually.
Oh. OK, well, I I don't.
Know I can't give you any theories because it's tainted by
the fact that I have seen stuff in the comic books that you guys
haven't seen yet I've seen. One thing and I've heard another

(37:42):
thing, the moaning in the whatever it is in the tent in
the barn, let's say in the back where the broken arm kick gets
the branding sounds like a deer in the hoof outside the tent.
The like hoof silhouette on the camping tent.
I'm not looking at you, Bridget.It looks like a shadow of a
hoof. OK.
And also there's one more bit ofevidence and it comes in the

(38:04):
form of the title sequence and why?
And actually the key art in the background, if you look in the
background, there's a a deer with like glowing eyes in the
background of the key art in an art intro.
And that's all I have to say about that.
That's it. It's got to be a deer of some
kind of alien deer, basically. Do you think?
That applies to like, what's hername, sorry.

(38:26):
What who, who's deer? So I don't know, but Black deer
is her name. I don't maybe or it could be
Jesse Black deer that her father.
That's clearly if we're developing a theory because
we're better cops than the cops.His teacher lover is Aaron
Weimar, responsible for Rose Black Deer's death maybe, or

(38:46):
involved in any way rather than her father, because her father
was accused of that murder. I do.
Have thoughts, but I can't sharethem, Dave, so I'm sorry.
I don't want to be too bad because my theory would be
insanely wild and you'd be like,that doesn't make any sense.
It doesn't make. Any sense?
What if you saw? The comics, I feel.
Bad for you? Me.
Too. OK, so another bit of evidence
that we see is that Aaron is burning up evidence in his

(39:09):
fireplace. Aaron Weimar, his wife, comes
down the stairs. She goes, don't worry, I'll take
care of it. Good.
Good. She must be involved in some
respect with anything that's going on.
Like I feel like she's he's saving her the burden of knowing
more than she should. Or maybe he tipped his hand and
somebody figured them out. Figured that there's got to be

(39:29):
more here. No, I.
Don't think she's involved at all.
OK, because. Then she has that therapy
session with M and I thought maybe there was like a she said
something to M that I don't know, that she should have.
She said something to the effectof Aaron said you're a revivor.
Yeah, Yeah. I thought that was a SUS.
Did you not think that was a little SUS?
Well, I thought that was. Super weird but I was more like
Aaron. Are you an idiot?

(39:50):
Do you want to get caught for cheating on your wife, you
moron? Assuming she.
Doesn't already know. I don't know, based on the black
deer thing, maybe black deer thing, I don't know.
I'm not sure. But he's dead now, so that's.
Yeah, it looks like an Ave. thatwe may not get unless like the
evidence comes out in the papersfrom Pluto maybe.
Because she's a. Bigger deal in the comics than

(40:11):
in the show, basically. So maybe we'll see some of that
storyline. Well, and maybe that'll crack
things open a bit. It'll be cool in the beginning
of episode 4, a couple things that happened right away.
John Doe Crematory, burnt guy, ex cop maybe.
Don't worry, we'll go back to Brent.
I mean a. Flashlight is just a flashlight,
but yeah, sure we have the. Ballistics match Mcrae's gun,

(40:33):
but I don't know. Anyway, seals the thumb drive
from Erin Weimar's home while his wife is in the house.
OK, fine. Drops a thumb drive in Megtau's
vehicle and then there's the clippings.
OK, so he's in EMS apartment as well.
Or, I don't know, you tell me. There are clippings on the wall
and it pans to a pill bottle of Martha Cypress's oxycodone

(40:54):
prescription. Right.
So he's in her home, her apartment or dorm, too.
Oh. I assumed it was Wayne's house.
Martha lived with Wayne after the accident, after her rehab
and stuff. Yeah, but not anymore, no.
Not anymore, but that was when she had that prescription was
after the accident. That's how she got hooked on
pills. Then she was buying them

(41:14):
illegally. Those were not coming to her
illegally legally after that shewouldn't have had a pill bottle
with her name on it when she wasbuying them from a drug dealer I
guess. They did look old.
Well, then I guess it means thatalso the Wayne.
So so. OK, OK, so interesting.
So the clippings are from Wayne Cypress's home?
Basically that. Is what I assumed OK?
OK, but maybe. I'm wrong.

(41:35):
I don't know. I didn't.
There's not much to M's apartment.
The bathrooms off of the living room, I assume there's a
kitchenette when you walk in. Not even like a full kitchen.
I assume or. Something.
But if it's a. Dorm room They might not even
have a kitchen, it might just bethe two bedrooms, the living
room, the bathroom, so I. Was thinking that maybe there
was a connection between John Doe Byrne guy and Aunt Martha

(41:56):
Cypress or something. But then maybe it's just Wayne.
Because if, OK, if there's any involvement between our guy John
Doe, it would have to do with the black deer case, which Dana
was involved in, by the way, but.
Well, the blame. Might be falling on Wayne
because he's the sheriff. Sure right.
I did catch the clipping of the Rose black deer thing and it
said like classmates of Rose Black Deer continue to honor her

(42:18):
memory and make grief. She only graduated from Wausau
High School a few years ago. Popular and kind with an
infectious smile. Remember Kay was saying I'm glad
she's dead? Well, I guess the black deer
case would have happened a whileago, but how long ago?
Sounds like it would have been awhile ago.
But like, I was wondering if Kayhad said that this was the
person she was glad was dead. I thought she.
Said she wished she had stayed dead.

(42:39):
Dead right, OK Oh, whoever it was.
Is a whoever she was talking about is walking around.
Yeah, OK. I thought maybe Rose would would
have been the one, was she? Talking about Martha, No, she.
Definitely wasn't talking about Martha because she didn't know
at the time until Dana come, came in and was talking over and
we were talking about her being revived.
That's right. So I wondered, I wonder if they
had anything to do with anythingat all.

(43:01):
I wish you should have. Would have stayed, Dad.
Oh, let's talk about Brent, because you brought up a nugget
about Brent and I had the same thought.
Lester. Saw the shooter, it's a cop.
What? What that?
What was? Very like a.
Surprise, yeah. Huh.

(43:23):
Sorry, who is Brent? Brent.
Is the one I thought was JP at first.
In my notes he's got. The funny hat, Yeah, in the.
First episode he's like. Dopey Oh, I have a.
Picture of a new girlfriend, andit was a cat.
Yeah, he's got the. He's got the really, really
Midwest accent. He's like the only person
delivering the accent I want. No kidding.
He grills Ibrahim Rameen in a surprising fashion.

(43:44):
I was like, oh, OK, Brent's going.
That's. That's.
Hilarious. He was so funny and he keeps.
Coming at him from different angles.
So you're saying he just. Like comes up next to him.
Oh my God, that was so funny. We're going to go through.
This again. It was good.

(44:04):
So you think he's the shooter? Yes, he does hate McRae.
Everybody. Hates McRae but severity right
degree. It's like he's the.
One who handled Ballistics, so he's true.
And. He's very.
Insistent about getting Sheriff Wayne's gun too, to rule him
out. And very.
Insistent that the sheriff stay out of it, which you just you
automatically assume is protocol.

(44:26):
But what if it's not? That's a really good theory,
Rachel. Actually, I really like that.
I didn't think that at all. I like it so all.
Of these things are little boxesthat I'm checking along the way,
like, Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. But the clincher was when he
went to go visit Dana in the hospital and she gave him a
little friendly arm tap right inthe spot where the shooter got

(44:47):
hit. And he was like, wow.
Oh. You.
Jerk. Oh God.
That's a good one. That's a good one.
I thought it was like he's like,Dana's like no one.
She's just like, it's like a sack of sugar.
She like, hits like a sack of sugar.
He's like, yeah, but. It could have been delivered
anywhere, right? Right, right, right.
Very cool. Very, very good.

(45:09):
I like. That I like that a lot.
Yeah, I'm. Willing to accept that because
to me, I just don't know why theguy who's finding all of this
evidence, if I'm to believe thatmaybe this is like black Deer's
father or whatever and he's likeon the Lam because I don't know
if he was ever imprisoned. But if that's what I meant to
believe, but we don't know was he ever found?

(45:29):
Was he caught? Was it?
There was no, There's no conversation about an arrest.
It's just that he killed his daughter or whatever is the
assumption right, it seemed. Like, the case was botched, too.
Yeah, like. Something with the case is
wrong. I assume that he's then trying
to clear his own name because hedidn't kill his daughter, and
he's trying to get to the bottomof who did kill his daughter.

(45:49):
And so I don't want him to be a bad guy, really, because I'm
like, that's too obvious. And then who's the John Doe?
So he. I just want to just mention
this. The guy I think we're going to
insider it is a John Doe who died within the two weeks,
obviously revived and now it's forever because he revived while
he was burning. He's now forever burnt.
Yeah. And why is he the guy going

(46:10):
around getting the evidence likelike you?
Know he's somebody. He's clearly somebody, they just
didn't see him. To burn his body before knowing
his identification is crazy. Yeah, I just, I don't know,
because maybe where where he died is probably pertinent to
the reason why they would do that.
Like, oh, he was just a random dude died in the forest and they
couldn't ID him two weeks later and then that's what happens.

(46:32):
But that's. Absolutely insane.
You can keep a body on ice for along time, yeah.
But Craig does not seem very phased about finding the foot in
the trunk. Okay, no, it's just like rolling
out his eyes going on, I guess he got me.
And I think these things may be mutually exclusive, but that
doesn't change the fact that it's weird, right?
Very, very McRae still like if it's like another layer of McRae

(46:54):
because there was. Another cooler back there.
I assume it also has body parts in it for whatever reason.
And I'm also assuming that thosereally were Mcrae's, right?
That was not planted on him. He was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I
have these. I just have some super these
spits. Like a sort.
Of operation where I sell body parts.
Right, right. And then the and then the setup

(47:15):
setting up of the poker pants. Because, you know, the Irish guy
they're talking about is McRae, right?
The crooked. Copped.
That but. The Czechs we're.
Talking about, yeah. Czech.
Brothers. Anthony Czech, do you think?
That these are revivor body parts that's.
Sort of what I was thinking they're.
Taking them out to like use for black market organ transplants

(47:37):
and stuff like that because they'll grow their organs back.
But. Why is a full choice?
It's a foot. Transplant.
It's a weird choice, but self healing.
This is where I think the thing you were saying about the in the
comics, how people want to come inside to get healed and stuff
like that, that could where it could come in and it would be so
McCray for that to be the case. Also.
The song, OK, this is the problem, because as much as

(47:59):
McCray looks super SUS, I don't think he's the thing.
The guy that obviously we think it's Brent, it's fine, but
McCray still looks SUS and then he's singing the damn song,
which is Barbara. Barbara.
Norris's song Because you believe in me, which is like,
OK, that's a narrative tell. That's like, actually you should
believe in me because Eve, as gross as I am, I'm OK, I guess I

(48:22):
don't know. I don't know, I thought.
It was a very, I loved the off key singing and the really
belting it. He was really getting into it,
yeah. Yeah.
Don't we all feel that? I enjoyed it, Yeah.
Me too. I've done it.
I've done it not to that song, but I have done it to Kenny
Loggins. Celebrate, celebrate.
Come on and celebrate. Celebrate me home, OK?

(48:44):
Everybody has their own off key song.
McRae had his OK. So, Dave, did you give your
theory on the burning? Yeah.
I said was a deer. The glowing eyes, burning deer,
Yeah. That's wrong.
Anyway, glowing. Deer the.
Silhouette outside the tent was a hoof, Sure.
Oh yeah, yeah. OK, so I thought maybe.
There's something there I could see.

(49:04):
That they were saying like. There's something missing inside
and I'm actually starting to watch this anime series called
Hikaru Died last summer. I can't remember what.
It's on Netflix. It smells like Invasion of the
Body Snatch. Wait, hold on, did I say that
right? Invasion?
Of the body snatchers, is that what it?
Is Invasion of the Body Snatchers smells a lot like
that, where like, OK, you make aperfect copy of somebody that

(49:25):
regenerates at the time that they were copied, let's say,
which is odd, and they had to becopied.
Invasion of the Body Snatcher. So people regenerate, they come
back to life, they regenerate, but something's just not right.
Right, something a little Askew.They're they're not quite the
same person They were. Something's missing inside.
There's a there's an emptiness that Damon Manny something,

(49:46):
whatever his name, the meets meets on main that guy, he says.
Oh. Yeah, there's like I feel alone.
Heart attack. Something missing inside of me.
Heart attack. Guy.
That's heart attack guy. Yeah, heart attack guy, the
layman. Maybe it's.
Their soul. They're missing their soul.
So. Maybe Blaine's right too, I
mean. I know that this is to describe
like religious stuff. I don't know.

(50:08):
I don't, I don't know how I wantto say that.
But anyway, this whole story is to have meant to have a really
large religious component. Yeah.
Because of course it would. Is it really?
You think I'm a? Believer if people all the
sudden were back on Earth, I'd be like, what do I believe about
that? Because that seems like that's

(50:29):
the rapture, but I don't necessarily believe in the
rapture. So like the opposite of the
Rapture though? Kind of, yeah.
It's like, but it's like end times.
Yeah, right. Like the dead.
The dead will rise. Yeah, yeah, because.
It's one of my favorite lines from The Walking Dead is when
Herschel says God said that the dead would rise in the end
times. But I I didn't think it would

(50:49):
look like this, right? It's like something to that
effect. I thought he had something
different in mind or something like that.
It would be hard, I think, to process that, especially with no
other cataclysmic event. If people rose from the dead but
also like the sky was falling apart, I'd be like, OK cool, the
world's ending. Like more great.
Get Me Out of here. This place sucks.

(51:10):
Beam me. Up study.
Hey, God, but with the people. Just coming back, that would
cause a a crisis of faith, I think, which is why we're seeing
all of these faith elements. There's more of the faith
elements in the comic book, so Ithink it is a driving force in
the storytelling this. Area seems to be tamped down.
It's a lot more subtle in the series.

(51:30):
We have like no revivers allowedthat the signs out there people
are. I think people all over are
feeling the way Wayne visually is showing it a little bit like
a little bit the guy. Oh, and of course, Blaine's
followers, right? Yes.
Yes. Well, and then.
We have the little girl's parents, Jordan.
It's all very similar. So I think it's meant to kind of

(51:52):
talk about this religious component, but it is a lot
lighter in the show, which makessense because that's just how it
goes, you know, with Hollywood, yeah.
Oh. Speaking of, we wanted to go
past the whole, what do you think the whole thing that
burned the guy's hand is? And the guy in the tent in the
woods? Yeah.
I don't know that I mentioned this.

(52:14):
I may have mentioned this in thefirst episode, may not have
during the revival. When the revival is happening,
there's a radio in Brandy's crematorium and then the static
goes in and out, and then that'swhen people start reviving.
Same static that Dana gets in. Also in the first episode when
she almost hits the Crematory burning guy.
Same static. You tear again static in the

(52:36):
woods and the fourth episode, I think it is with Cooper and
Jordan right before they see thealien bright eyed bright deer
poof thing with the live long and prosper hoof.
But there is a bit of static also.
So there's and then the coup de You have like a notebook full

(52:59):
with post it notes to keep your accounting heels.
And I don't buy computers because they got radio.
Waves they got. Yeah, I'm on I.
You know what? Winks at her or something.
It's really weird. I like him.
I thought. He might, he's a good fan.
Actually, as soon as he said that, I was like, everyone knows
I'm going to love this guy. Actually, everyone knows.
It's like. He's winking at the audience.

(53:20):
He's like, we're anyways guys, we're anyways, I don't know,
like. Dana leaves the place, soaking
him up. Right now it's horrible, she
says. Like.
You're a nice guy, but you're you're.
You're a sweet guy, but you're so stupid.
You're like an. Absolute.
Idiot, that's what she. Says you're so stupid.
He goes thanks. And he's like, please.
Yeah, she's like, you're a really nice guy, but you're so

(53:42):
stupid. She.
Walks out. And he's like, thanks.
He's like proud of himself. I liked it.
I liked it a lot, actually. It's like.
Me after you insult me, it's like, great.
It was really. Funny, I like.
I like me, so I feel like there's something there.
The radio waves come into play. Yeah, yeah.

(54:03):
Where that? Goes nobody knows round and
round. Very glitch.
Feeling right because that was all about the the vibrations
bringing people back and I thinkthere.
Was also like radio waves involved in that one too I
think. They ended up, yeah, where they
like there was like a Panther. To find the boundary of the
town. Yeah.

(54:24):
Where, like dowsing rods, you know, like where Ramin goes.
Theory remains. Moor Creek is vital for Revival
Day, He says something very cool.
That is kind of a fun bit of knowledge, He says.
The Moor Creek sample, no phosphate or nitrates present,
which means the algae bloom was spontaneous.
Now, why is that important? It's not really important for

(54:46):
the show, but it's important forus because it's kind of a cool
factoid. There's a phenomenon called
eutrophication that's spelled EUTROPHICATION.
It means when waterbeds are overly abundant in phosphates or
nitrates, which occurs from likethe riverbeds overflowing
usually, and then abundant amount of nutrients will flow

(55:06):
down the riverbed and like breedmore plant life.
Like it could be algae, could beflowers, could be whatever.
Like a lot of nutrients come to the soil near the riverbeds
downstream, which causes a lot of bloomage.
And what he's saying with the water sample is that there's no
trace of these phosphates and nitrates that would have caused
this naturally occurring bloomage in his sample absent
like looking for toxins and stuff like that.

(55:28):
I just thought it was kind of a cool fact.
Like, why is that important? Like, why would you even say
that? Ibrahim Romain, why are you
poisoning my ears? And so I looked it up.
Something to do with something. There's a theory there, OK.
Is it like absence any toxins orpet, you know, any sort of
terrible thing, which is unlikely, right?
Why would a toxin cause algae bloom?
He's saying basically Ground Zero of a revival day is more

(55:48):
Creek boom, OK, And there's a barrier like Bridget said.
And who knows? People trying to get in, trying
to heal themselves, who knows? We should move on to though,
Carla Morel, his assistant. He figures out a way, right?
If right, here's the thing. Why is she attractive?
Let's keep moving. So she It makes me upset with

(56:09):
myself. I get upset with myself
sometimes and I feel like Sherry.
Is a Viper, yeah. And she uses snake venom.
I looked up crotolase. It's a thrombin like enzyme
isolated from the venom of eastern diamondback rattlesnake
Crotalis adamanteus. It slows cell division.
Remember we were talking about mitosis.

(56:30):
It slows down cell division and it says basically it slows down
the reviver healing process, slows down their super strength
under duress, all that other stuff which I thought was cool
but it sounded terrible. It does.
Did you? Agree with the torture, Bridget.
Did you? No.
I picked on you, No. Inhumane.
So you. Agreed with Wayne to to when he

(56:52):
when he said knock it off Carla Morrell, but he.
Didn't really. I mean, he did ultimately, but
he was also like. Great work though.
Yeah, like because. He's scared, don't love.
It's like, hey, we're here. I can't undo the past, you know,
I can't say hey, stop it in retrograde.
But he's just like, knock it offbasically it's.
Horrible, and I would never condone torture, however.

(57:15):
Oh, here we go. Like, and then all our faces
perk up like, wait, what's she going to say now?
Well. The obvious, right?
How do we learn more without experimentation?
It's a. Slippery ass slope, young lady.
It's a slippery ass slope. I don't.
Know so. We're going to learn what we
just learned, and that's probably about it.

(57:38):
And you can only look. At the Fan More Creek.
Slime samples so many times. You're going to have to start.
I don't know what, I'm not a scientist.
Like I said, I don't condone thetorture, but at some point.
Well, the torture is going to continue now, so.
But I'm insistent that we shouldfind out more whatever way

(57:58):
possible. I'm just saying.
I mean, look back through history, guys.
Yeah, I. AM experimentation.
Also, let's see Thomas Edison. It was the worst.
It was pretty. Awful stuff in our history too
that resulted in some pretty necessary stuff.

(58:19):
So I don't know how you how you rectify that, but here we are
all living into our hundreds because of it.
That's the your first problem. Not right there is your first
problem, but sure. Skip.
Myself hard enough. Well, there's a prevailing
theory that if you find out whatcaused the algae bloom, maybe

(58:42):
that could be the source of the thing.
You don't have to hurt people orex people.
Or maybe you're where you're with probably with Blaine.
You're like, they're not people.I smell sulfur.
Oh God. I feel like she's also trying to
come up with a defense mechanism, right?
If these people have this exorbitant amount of power, if
one of them decided to rage out and just start killing people,

(59:04):
we would need a way to slow them.
Down slow. Them down, take them out.
I'm kind. Of on the Wayne side of things a
little bit because, look, I can't stop what happened.
But now that we're here, I feel a little bit better about having
the ability to slow people down.Like, OK, what do we do when
people commit a crime, but sometimes a violent crime?
Well, if we have to, we have to shoot them.

(59:25):
And when we shoot, we have to shoot to kill, that sort of
thing, as officers do. It's.
Unfortunate, but it's necessary because if when you do that, you
make it so nobody else gets hurtor killed in the process of
evading the law or committing more crimes or whatnot, they're
not in charge of being revived. They didn't have a hand in it.
But if one of them happens to bea criminal, well, like maybe

(59:46):
like Miles Miller who was being experimented on, maybe like
somebody else like John Doe Crematory guy who's like what?
Didn't shoot or maybe did shoot,I don't know at this point.
I don't. I'm like.
Bridget I don't think he he looks like a bad guy, so I don't
think that he is 1. It's like.
Anything, isn't it? Yeah.
Too obvious, this whole. Series is like, it looks like

(01:00:08):
this, so it probably isn't this,yeah.
Exactly. You like red herrings?
Well, here's a lot of them. Yeah, Pickled herring is popular
in Wisconsin, so it makes sense.So we should call the series
Pickled red herring, yeah? Actually, I could go for some
pickled herring right now. Honestly, I.
Don't know. I'll take pickle baloney.

(01:00:30):
What is that A. Thing pickle.
Baloney. Yeah, I've.
Never heard of it. Never had pickle.
Baloney. Now say it in a more Michigan
centric accent. You have never had pickle
baloney. Baloney.
It's so good. I'm going to.
Slice up some pickle baloney with some cheddar cheese.
Is that? Yeah.
Is that how it's done? Yeah.
And this is like a cold sandwich, right?

(01:00:52):
Like cold cheddar, cold pickle, baloney.
It's. Like Ring?
Have you had Ring? Baloney?
No. Keep going.
Speak my language. Oh my gosh.
What is Ring? Baloney.
OK, you're. Familiar with Bologna?
Yeah, of course. Let's start So it's a good
start. So it's like in, it's sort of in
sausage form, but it's mixture. Like a kielbasa or like a polar
sausage? It's.

(01:01:12):
Like it's like curved into AU shape and then tie it at the
top. Well, you can get just regular
ring Bologna, which is just Bologna, or you can get it
pickled, which is delicious. Never had it, it's so good.
Very controversial. But I am on the delicious side
of pickle Bologna. You're not a.
Very controversial eater, which is surprising how this is a

(01:01:35):
thing for you I. Like vinegar?
Just as a concept or yes? Delicious.
Did you grow up eating dried beef in a jar like?
Beef jerky. No, it's not like beef jerky.
It's very thin and salted to death.
Honestly, it's. So salty.
It's so salty to be preserved. To that one.

(01:01:56):
Yeah, I used to eat that when I was younger.
It's still kind. Of chewy right?
It's not like beef jerky. It's.
Not like beef jerky. It's like in between beef jerky
and like a lunch meat. It sounds a lot like South
Africa has built tongue, right? Can I mail food?
Can I mail you food? Yeah, I will mail you some
pickle Bologna. I'll see.
If I have any in the area, let'smove on.
But yes, I interest to speak sure.

(01:02:21):
Sure don't even know how we got there anyway.
Well, I. Don't know, we talked about
snake venom and Carla Sexy but Idon't like it.
It was my yeah, sorry. We're.
Missing Lesters Intel. The secondary Intel.
Yeah, because he's like, I have more, more I have.
More Well, what is it? What is it?
He got into a cop car. That was the that's why the rest
of it, I saw him get into a car and it was a police cruiser it.

(01:02:43):
Was it was it was McRae. No, it was Brent, but he
probably would have been gettinginto Mcrae's car, right.
So OK, do you think we OK? We know.
Well, I know Brent botched the results right to make it look
like Mcrae's gun. Or or.
Did he actually take and use Mcrae's sidearm?

(01:03:07):
Either one is possible. Yeah, honestly.
Well, I. Mean.
That's assuming that he that McRae wasn't involved in any
which way. I don't.
Think he was not in the shootinganyway.
He's involved in something, but I don't think he had anything to
do with the shooting. Yeah, he's got to be involved
with the Czech brothers somehow.Yes, somehow.
He knows a lot about the oxycodone.

(01:03:27):
So maybe there's there's that connection because the Czech
brothers sell it and yeah, oh boy.
But OK, I'm going to say something and it's not going to
say it's uncharacteristic of me,but let's look at Dana's
history, OK? She questions Alonzo about his
methods allowing somebody to rent a car that doesn't have ID

(01:03:49):
and ID the Anderson fellow who isn't who's the TA?
But really, I think we've settled on the fact.
I don't know, maybe, but I'm convinced that it because he
says as much Aaron Weimer says as much.
He says I, I basically, I found you at the fridge and I didn't
need that to hurt you, right? So I don't think this the
Anderson TA fellow, I don't think he's involved at all.

(01:04:10):
He just used his e-mail address to get the ring and all that
stuff. OK, let's set, let's set that
aside. What he was involved in, we
don't know and we'll never know from him.
At the very least we'll know maybe from his partner or the
person he was protecting or in cahoots with or whatnot.
Fine. But in terms of McCray, just
based on Dana's history and her basically doing a lot of squid

(01:04:31):
pro quo, which is now in my lexicon, just like, all right,
you give me this info, I won't tell anybody or won't arrest you
for not taking a license. The Czech brothers, she could
have busted them a long time ago.
She makes a deal with Anthony, blah, blah, blah.
She just wants people to be copacetic.
These people, even though they suck their fabric of the town,
they don't mean to hurt people. It's the people that like you

(01:04:51):
really want to take down that you wanted to take out of
society, right? What if McCray is the same?
And maybe he's. Just give me a little X in the.
Side or maybe the foot thing is to help heal people or whatnot
or make a little extra money. I don't know.
Maybe he's in with the Czech brothers to kind of keep them in
check, right. Keeping the check brothers in
check. Maybe there's something there

(01:05:11):
too. As gross as he is, maybe there
is something good about him. He's just you don't want to like
him kind of like everything in this town.
You don't want to like certain people, but they're not bad
people in the like Wayne, if he wasn't objectively hot grandpa,
but he's kind of annoying. I mean, he's, he's a bit
frustrating. There's a scene in which you
hear a knocking outside of Roadie's door and M it's

(01:05:33):
Roadie's door and she assumes it's Dana.
Your knock sounds just like, andthen it's Dad.
And there's so much comparing Dana to Wayne throughout the
entire series. They're the same person.
If one is feeling one way, you know the other person is feeling
the same way. I just say this because like,
you don't want to like certain people and yet they're tied to
people you like. He just wants to feel helpful

(01:05:54):
because I want to feel like I'm being helpful.
Dana describing Wayne her father, but it's really her.
It's like a take on you hate andothers what you hate in
yourself. It's the Dana and Wayne
connection. And like how she knows why she
shouldn't tell Wayne that Martha's revived is because I
think she feels the same way. Her heart breaks knowing that

(01:06:17):
her sister died. I think Wayne having to deal
with all this and trying to understand the revived and then
hearing about Martha would really break him.
I'm not convinced that he wouldn't put her on a revival
list, but I don't know what willbreak Wayne Cyprus.
I don't. Know either he had a hard.
Time with Patty, so that's an indicator I could.
See it both ways I could see himprotecting her and thinking well

(01:06:42):
what if they send them all to aninternment camp so I can't put
her on a list in case that happens later or he's like no of
course she has to get her license stamped and I would
never let that happen. I would I wouldn't let her get
taken to some camp or let that happen in general.
I don't know. Well I.
Mean as far as internment camps,we're not there yet.
We're tag and trace, remember, But OK, let's take that a step

(01:07:05):
further. Who said tag and trace?
But the governor and the governor is taking upon herself
to supplant Ibrahim Ramin and install Carla.
And basically, Ibrahim is out ofa job essentially because Carla.
Wouldn't you just call the CDC? Yeah.
Wouldn't you be like, they can'tdo this, can they?
Like but then. Couldn't this be like an issue

(01:07:26):
of he was mentioning earlier there's he red taped himself
into a corner and wouldn't this cause more of a stir or a mess
having him call his bosses and say what happened here?
I don't know. I mean he.
Might get fired over right. Like how did you it makes him
look? Incompetent.
And then there's. A federalism problem too.
Governor is basically the president of the state.
And if he or she gets involved, let's put it this way, if the

(01:07:47):
sheriff steps up and tries to push the governor, I think he
can push her away because of federalism, right?
Federalism is like that. Your city, your local city could
fight against the governor and sanctuary cities, right?
You've heard of that? And the governor of a state
could fight the president on an order.
So because of federal, this is actually an amendment to, if I'm
not mistaken, of the Constitution.
So I don't know if Wayne wakes up finally and is able to help

(01:08:10):
Ibrahim out, maybe he can get get Carla and the governor to
stop. But see, the problem is, and
this is kind of it was kind of sad in the show, but kind of
like a show don't tell in a way because Wayne called in the
governor to help. Maybe there's a problem there.
He. Shouldn't have called her,
right? In his effort to go over Mayor

(01:08:31):
Dillash's head, he kind of invited his own device more.
Of a problem for himself so that.
Explains everything now unfortunately, because even I
was having a problem with that Rachel.
I was like, how is this not fixable?
Call your boss. Call him up.
Well, the sheriff did call his boss.
Nithya doesn't suspect the thingAaron says.
I can take you down with me. Yeah, we.

(01:08:52):
Covered that. How many?
People has he slept with? So I'm going to say teacher
lover. I don't.
Think he's talking to someone hehad an affair with?
He's. Talking to the shooter.
Yeah. Yeah.
What I'm saying is like, what ishe covering up specifically?
I don't know. I want to know.
I want to know right now. Let's watch the next episode.
Let's cover that now. We'll just amend the title.
It's not. Out yet?
Sure, isn't it I? Thought it's out it didn't air

(01:09:13):
just last Thursday night. Wasn't it episode 6?
No, I. Thought this did because when it
went on to autoplay it was playing a different show, no?
6 was on Yeah last. Thursday, it said.
New, but there was a lock on it for me.
Peacock, I don't. Know yeah, David, are you
watching it on? Sci-fi I'm watching.
On sci-fi yeah. Are you having?
To use credits or something to watch these episodes?
No, I have YouTube TV so I can pop on there.

(01:09:36):
I only have. Episode 1 through 5 I'll have.
The more accurate representationof like what should be available
I had. One through 6 on sci-fi, but now
I have to start using credits inorder to watch.
Episode 6 did come out last lastThursday.
Yeah, shoot. I.
Just I just started playing it. Yeah, when did they?
Air on Peacock, yeah. Well, how long does it take to
for it to show up on Peacock is the question.

(01:09:57):
It says new episodes Thursdays. Well, I I just started playing
it. And it is playing, yeah.
I was playing because my. Thought was maybe it you know
how sometimes they have them up already even though you can't?
Like actually locked up. Everything.
Upcoming, right? Yeah.
Right now it was, it was available, right?
It's good to know for everybody else who's having a hard time
reaching it, which is happening lately.

(01:10:21):
Yeah. And maybe it doesn't show on
scifi.com/revival for free untilthe Peacock one starts airing.
Maybe it's like. A even episode 5 I had to use
credits to watch. They come one week after on
Peacock. OK, so sci-fi airs new episodes
on Thursday nights and the new episodes of revival are

(01:10:42):
available on Peacock The following.
Oh, following. Friday, the following.
Friday so it says it's one week,so it's like a full week after.
8 days. So if you have actual cable you
can see it on video and demand basically.
Yeah, that's going to be a problem for us covering it.
Not for me, okay. Well, you can do it by yourself.

(01:11:03):
That's not about myself. Why I had this idea, Okay, And I
want to know what you guys thinkin the audience.
For those of you who are interested, I'm willing to
actually watch. We could do like a live reaction
of the episode. I kind of want to do that.
Like, just as we watch, we can comment on the things that we're
seeing, and then after the episode's over, we can, like,
continue talking about it. Oh, sure.
I see. I see what you're saying.

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Thing left to say and it's that I really liked Rody and so I
would like him to come back please.
I did. Think about that, I became.
Sold on him. I think it was like in episode 4
I was like, I should really likethis guy.

(01:12:30):
I want him. To be my baby friend, No.
I'm married so that'd be weird and also I'm like I'm older than
him, maybe I don't. Maybe.
I can't tell. I don't know.
I think he's older than you, Bridget.
There'll be something he's. 4010I don't.
He's 40. 17 is Bridget. I don't.

(01:12:51):
Know I don't know well. Consent King.
I'd like him to actually. It kind of sucks that she was
like, I could do it myself. He's like, OK.
I don't think we've seen the last of them, I don't think.
So either. When she was trying to defend
herself about the whatever was going on with her and teacher
lover and he's like, I don't care, you do it, do whatever you

(01:13:11):
want. I just, I just thought it was so
ridiculous that she like goes inthe bathroom, she cuts.
She shaves. The side of her head.
Oh. Yeah.
And she like, puts her hood up and she's like, I'm tough now.
It's like. You know goth now.
OK. OK, it's like the.
Dark calm down. I had an honest to goodness

(01:13:33):
question about this. I'm a surprise you guys don't
because hair and fingernails after death and Oh yeah, right.
Revivers. Things regenerate.
Yeah, it. Was actually, so that's that's
interesting you say that, Dave. There was a, there was a book
Series, A rather trashy book series I read in my 20s called
The Undead. And on one series, I think I've
mentioned this before, she didn't get a pedicure before she

(01:13:55):
was turned into a vampire. And so every day she has to go
get a pedicure because her feet are like chats.
She's upset about it because it's like she's really vapid.
Like it's all of you know, she'slike really into shoes and
stuff. So like this like hunky vampire
that turns her or whatever buys her like Manolo Blahniks and I

(01:14:17):
remember her going to put him on.
But she's like complaining aboutthe fact that Peter checked and
she goes to get a pedicure and then it resets every day.
It's very funny and also horrible, but it.
Is Vampire what is it called? Vampire The Embrace, The
handbook for the LAR Ping community and for Vampire.
The masquerade, but. MASCAR the Vampire The

(01:14:38):
Masquerade and like what they say is that if you use your
blood magic, you can make it so that your feet can look whatever
you want to. You just have to have enough.
That's true, but it's. Like too magic related.
I was just, I don't, I don't abide by that lore, you know,
Well, the. Lord doesn't abide by you.
That's fair. Yeah, OK.
And we're done. And we're done.

(01:14:59):
Well, no. What do you think about like her
hair not regrowing after cuttingit?
I think it's kind of an interesting factoid that doesn't
really make. Much sense.
Maybe it is, Maybe next episode it'll be long again.
I love. That for us, maybe.
It is growing off screen the first time.
We see her, she has like the sadbangs, right?
And like kind of I like the. Bangs, they're okay.

(01:15:20):
Like just like the ears thing was weird, like when she cut her
hair, like everything looked a little bit more flattering, but
like the ears sticking out with the bangs was not.
It's a look for some people I don't know, I thought.
It was cute. I think this some people don't.
Want to look cute, Bridget? But this?
Well, yeah, I understand that, but this is preposterous.
I don't know. That's like, I'm tough now.

(01:15:42):
I'm like, OK, it's like me. It's me.
When I try to be tough, OK, Nobody's going to take you
seriously. I'm so sorry.
We are tough. I promise we are tough.
But. I promise you, I promise you
we're tough. We're.
So tough we're. So tough like you have to sound
like that we're. So tough guy.
But guys, I'm tough. It's like anytime I get mad and

(01:16:06):
like people just laugh, it makesme even angrier.
But they're like, you're so cutewhen you get mad.
And I'm like, it's. So cute.
I'm serious. I'm like a koala.
They have syphilis. Oh my gosh, I.
Do not have syphilis what is that a thing it's.
The koalas. Have syphilis, basically, or is

(01:16:27):
it gonorrhea? I think it's syphilis, yeah.
And well. But that but they are very dumb.
No, they're. Dumb.
Yeah, their brains. Are smooth.
That's what happens, Yeah. When you're dumb, you have less
brain wrinkles. Brain.
Wrinkles Science. Proved that in the 1800s days,
yeah. Oh, 1800s science, I see.

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The one with bloodletting. OK, yes, so.
Bleach is all good for you. Yes, Speaking of science, I, I I
did misspeak just a second ago when I said hair and nails keep
growing. It's actually your skin
shrinking for tracks. Yes, thank you.
We all know. But then like kind of rolled
over. OK, fine.
So much. You think I was dumb.

(01:17:08):
I'm smart, I promise. Also tell tell.
Them very wrinkly brain. David.
OH. Well, thank you.
And if you have a wrinkly brain or not, maybe you have a smooth
brain. A smooth brain.
I don't know where to. ratethispodcast.com/squawky
dead. Because five stars in a smooth
brain is all we need to know that you love us.
There you go. We'll find a smooth brain in the
emoji list, right? It's like a brain.

(01:17:28):
You find a yeah, there will be abrain.
You find a brain. But find a.
Pink circle that's your brain and leave us that it's like the
front profile right Tell me your.
Brain is so. Smooth.
Your brain's so smooth in the circle.
Pink circle, Yeah. It's a pink circle, OK.

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Yeah. That's all we need to know that
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Tell us what you think we might have missed.
Just remember to tell us after every single episode right in
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We just need your help. Feedback is free, comments are
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It just really helps a lot. And we also want to know that
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We have no idea that you're there.
And so when we know that you're there, it's like, hey, I know
you, you commented on such and such episode and sometimes I'll
forget and that's awkward for me.

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And I think people like it when things are awkward between us.
It's really funny for everybody else.
In any case, I told you all the things about tipping us on
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show. And you'll have direct access to
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And I need to watch. That the show is.
Really good and so highly recommend.
However, my views are abysmal so.
Oh man, so. Jokes on me I guess, but it's
fine. Well, it shouldn't.
Take you that long to watch it so you can comments along with
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on over to youtube.com/ant PunkyBrewster.
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You can comment on the Jinx. You've probably already watched
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season 1 and 2. And yeah, it really did.
Maybe you can just get in Bridget's face and say you're
wrong. You're wrong.

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Smooth brain came out in. 20, 15I already know what happens,
it's just that Tahira doesn't, so I'm trying not to give away
the ending. She hasn't.
No idea what happens with RobertDurst so I've never watched.
The Jinx. But I do know what happened with
SO. It's just, it's just for fun to
see a reaction at the end. I can't wait till we get to last
episode, even if. You know that the Titanic sinks.

(01:21:05):
Having watched the Titanic, seeing how it all went down.
Super. Interesting.
I didn't watch it at the time. I gave like a whole spiel about
this in the first episode that we did where I'd said, like at
in 2015, I worked at a restaurant where this guy was
like really into both Serial podcast and The Jinx.
And he would give me these updates every day.
Like when we worked together, he'd like tell me about all the

(01:21:26):
crazy stuff. And he's like, you should listen
to Serial, you should watch The Jinx.
And I was like, you know, when people tell me to do stuff like
that, I'm like, yeah, yeah, I did listen to Serial years
later, and it was really good. And he was right.
He also, his favorite movie was White Chicks, and I was made fun
of him for that. But upon further reflection as
I've gotten older, it's actuallypretty good.
So like, I get it. So I've changed my mind.

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And Joe, I apologize. I'm so sorry he's not listening.
To this he's not. She's only doing this here.
Because she knows she's never going to apologize to him in
person. I ended up deciding this is a
good one to go for because I wanted to kind of test out like
I don't know, could I do true crime?
Not could I commit true crime? Could I?
Could I cover true? Guys, we're going to cover this

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new series called Bridget. And did Rachel cover it up?
I actually. Have a friend that the answer.
Is yes has. Made a documentary and it's it's
being optioned right now at the moment, so I'm waiting to find
out who picks it up so that I can end up covering that because
I'm really excited about it. That's fun.
That's exciting. Well, that's like the ultimate

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expression of support. Well, folks, they reached the
end of line and that means time for Popeyes.
It means time for Popeyes and also means, well, I hope you
have the means to watch Episode 6 because we are figuring out
how we're going to cover it nextweek.
I guess maybe Thursday after something.
Hopefully no, because that's when Episode 7 comes out.

(01:22:49):
I have access to Episode 6. I think we should watch it
together while we watch it. We can comment throughout the
thing and then we don't have to wait.
That's a thing that we can talk about on our Discord.
Yeah. See a punks to.
Join a membership tier and you can be in on that conversation
and how we can watch all together because I don't think
we can live stream that, so no. You can't see, you never.

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Flagged. Bye.
See you. Later alligator see you.
Soon bye end of line from Tron. Thank you again for making it to
the end of yet another episode of Squawking Dead.
This one revivals 4th and 5th episodes. 4th episode is run

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along Little Lamb and the 5th episode is titled Triage.
Folks, we have quite a few things to talk about before we
get to our membership acknowledgments.
First things first, on Friday that would be July 25th, which
it currently is. Technically, it is 41 minutes
after midnight on the East Coastof the United States.

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We will be live streaming the happenings coming out of Hall H
at San Diego Comic Con vis A visor through our entertainment
journals, friends in attendance.We do this every so often, both
for San Diego Comic Con, Wonder Con, New York Comic Con, and any
event that seems to host The Walking to the Universe content
and any of the shows we actuallycover.

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We'll be going live at 3:00 PM Eastern US, which is also noon
on the West Coast of the United States, which is where San Diego
is in case you were wondering. San Diego, CA if you happen to
join the Whispers Tier membership, you can show up
alongside us reacting to the news with us.

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That also means obviously the Great M and Survivors here as
well, but at minimum the Whispers here.
We decided to make that an official perk after inviting
Whispers Tier members for the last handful of panel reactions
and trailers, etc coming out of both New York and San Diego
Comic Con. Second bit of housekeeping at
the end of this lovely, wonderful conversation is that

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we will be actually following through with watching episodes
six and seven together on Saturday morning.
That would be July 26th, 2025. If you want to know the exact
times it would behoove you to follow for free either our Kofi
or Patreon accounts. That's ko-fi.com/walkingdead or

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patreon.com/walkingdead. It's free to follow, it's free
to get the notifications, and asper your Democratic vote, you
decided that we should have an open session available to the
public without the need for tipping or joining a membership
tier. Just make sure that you are
following our Kofi and Patreon accounts so that you get the
notifications so you know when to jump into the studio with

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that link. I'm shocked you haven't yet done
that already. Get on that.
And while you get on that, you can listen to me rattle off our
Grade M survivors and whispers here as a show of appreciation
and thanks for keeping this podcast afloat.
It's getting Hard Out Here, folks.
It's been hard for the last basically year as our support

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has dwindled to below minimum thresholds.
I have personally been keeping this podcast halfway afloat
while at real Ryan GM in our great M tier has been matching
my donation amount. So that's where you can find him
on Instagram and X moving on to our survivors here.

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Oh, just kidding, there are no survivors.
See what I'm saying, folks? See what I'm saying?
We're skipping that and moving on to our whispers here, which
contains the following members at Skylar Rose, PW on Instagram
and X, as well as at Kim dot Rowley, the number one on
Facebook. I'm so very excited to hang out
with you both technically today and technically in another 13

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hours, as well as the very next day.
Saturday morning cartoon style in the 80s, watching Hanna
Barbera cartoons, Teenage MutantNinja Turtle, wearing my footy
pajamas and eating cereal and milk with you as we watch
episodes 7 and 8 of Revival together, breaking things down,
researching things together as afam unit, I simply cannot wait.

(01:27:06):
In the meantime, what you can dofor me, along with waiting and
anticipation, is remember that we are squawking dead.
God damn it.

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