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July 22, 2025 31 mins

What’s the real roadmap to lasting financial freedom?

In this episode, Rob Walling chats with Nick Maggiulli about his new book, The Wealth Ladder. Nick explains how to identify your current financial stage and what it really takes to move up. They dig into how wealth changes your spending habits, why exits (not salaries) drive significant changes in net worth, and how your definition of freedom might evolve over time.

Topics we cover: 

  • (6:07) – Defining the six levels of wealth
  • (11:49) – Why earning more isn’t enough
  • (14:17) – How entrepreneurs build wealth
  • (15:15) – The “0.01%” spending rule
  • (31:13) – Can money actually make you happier?

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