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The Supermedia Bros. Podcast is afounding member of the Odd Pods Media network
Supermedia Pros. As many shows aswe've watched and as much wrestling as we've
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consumed over the last i think combinedforty years between the two of us,
as far as like ages go.Yeah, have you ever actually seen the
main event people open the show?Not like this? You know. We
we've seen many of shows where it'slike, well, if you don't close
the show, you want to openit? But they did both successfully.
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Welcome to the Supermedia Bros. Podcast, where two best friends give comedically informative
takes on movies, music, prowrestling, and much more. I'm Ritchie,
I'm Devin. This is episode twohundred and ninety and we are all
in on a e w all inLondon from Wimbley Stadium. And the last
time we talked about an event thatwas at Wimbley Stadium was last year's time
Machine review of Summer nineteen ninety two. And we didn't even know that we
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would be talking about another Wimbley showthis soon. No, and I didn't
think we were gonna ever have anotherevent that big in that arena. Like
again, wrestling wise, Yeah,like they talked about it being like over
eighty one thousand. But then Idon't know if you caught this, but
at the media scrum, Tony hadalluded to it being closer than ninety because
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he had given out like seven thousandtickets or something. I don't know how
true that is. It's the eightyone thirty five is the paid number because
he didn't want to count because WWis infamous for inflating their attendance record,
even with the handouts and the peoplethat are just in the back, because
technically that's a body in the arena. Tony wanted asses and seats being counted
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that we're paying to be in thein the in the stadium. So that's
eighty one thirty five people. Idon't doubt that it's close to a packed
house, Like oh no, no, no, no, I'm not saying
that. It's just like I don'tknow how true it is of like,
damn near ninety thousand, just andI only say that because it's like I'm
thinking about the stage, I'm thinkingabout the layout, thinking about the space
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in between, like the first coupleof rows surrounding the ring and all that
stuff. It's like I don't Idon't know, but okay, go off.
Did you see the fucking gate thatthis did? Oh dude, it's
insane, Like that's the thing,is I fucking ten million? The thing
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to me that kind of aggravates thefuck out of me is everybody casting shade
or doubt of like we'll try anddo that again in the in the dates.
You know, what are you gonnado when you get back to America?
You can't sell out the blah blahblahlah. It's like, imagine being
mad that wrestling in general is doinggood numbers. Like here, I am
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just a fan of wrestling in general. WrestleMania for its two nights did I
don't even know how much. Itwas a ridiculous number for pre sales,
and it's like months and months andmonths and months away. Great good,
it's WrestleMania forty. I feel likeif any WrestleMania every five should be like
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that. Yeah, yeah, sogreat. Aw wants to go to Wimbley
every year and do this great.I hope they fucking sell it out next
year. Yeah. Like, imaginebeing upset because wrestling is thriving in any
way, shape or form, right, And I wanted to point this out
because I definitely have like a thingto say as far as like a statement
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to anybody. And this is notme being like, you know, like
I'm not getting on like a fuckany specific company like things. That's not
even at all what this is saying. But you cannot say that a EW
is not on a radar of anysort anymore. They are. They are
absolutely that bitch. Yeah, likestraight up like these motherfuckers hit Whimbley with
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no like they sold that many ticketswith damn near nothing announced card wise,
like right when when the fuck?You know, obviously, like you mentioned,
WrestleMania can do that. But it'slike, dude, AW is not
that fucking T shirt company that Paullavect fucking said it was. You know,
it's definitely not. No, Imean, and I get it.
Like at first, there were somany questions, like dude, I'll be
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you remember this whenever it was firstlike being talked about before the first episode
of Dynamite. Ever, I wasso concerned because I was like, dude,
in my lifetime, look at howmany wrestling companies got big and then
flopped or like just disintegrated. Yeah, But at the same time I was
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looking at how much Tony was startingto like preload his roster ride. There's
no way that you get a talentlike Chris Jericho if he does it,
Like if that company is destined tofail. Jericho has been in the business
for over thirty something fucking years andhas seen it all come and go.
Jericho is that good. Jericho issomebody who sold me on this company becoming
what it is right now. Andthis is historic for wrestling, period,
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but it's historic for this company.Like they're not even five years old.
They're gonna be five next year,which that phrase in its own I'm just
like, oh, ship, I'mgetting old shit. But no, dude,
it's just like, let's just behappy that we have some good shit.
You know. That's good shit,pal, It's such good shit,
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So let's get into this this goodshit. Man. This was a pretty
fucking loaded card. Like I knowa lot of people. I know a
lot of people kind of shot onit for whatever reason. They're like,
oh, it's not like it's notMania caliber. I'm like, that's because
this isn't WrestleMania. It's fucking allin, dude, We're not even just
that. But it's like the samepeople that are saying it's not WrestleMania quality.
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Is are It's the same people thatare saying that none of the people
here WrestleMania caliber. So it's like, Okay, you're already saying that you
don't like the talent nearly as much, so what do you expect it to
be? Yeah? We open withthe zero Hour tag team match for the
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Ring of Honor Tag Championship, andit's Adam Colin MJF versus Aussie Open,
which I fucking love Aussie Open,so goddamn much the story of the night.
For those of you keeping track withthis company and the storylines, we
don't have to say very much.But for those of you unfamiliar with any
of this, MJF and Adam Colehave been in a program with one another
over the championship and they eventually gotformed into a tag team due to a
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blind eliminator tag tournament, so theirnames were chosen at random and they were
just put together. And the storylinehas gone that MJF has slowly like done
a baby face turn with Adam Colekind of like leading the charge in that
where it's like, oh no,Adam Cole is like having shit from Roddy
Strong being said to him like hecan't trust this guy Adam. Adam is
like this is almost as close toactual Adam Cole as possible, probably where
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he's just like, no, Ireally think this dude might actually be a
good dude, like give us apretty much, and MJF is doing exact.
I will keep fucking saying this.Go back and listen to any of
our a EW reviews where Max hasbeen on the card in any way,
shape or form, and I havesaid this, and I will say this
till I'm blue in the face,because it's actually happening right fucking now as
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we speak, MJF will be thebiggest baby face this company has ever seen.
And guess what that's fucking happening rightnow. He is. He has
turned, like legitimately fucking turned,and it's it's great. How crazy is
it that the biggest baby face fromthe Four Pillars isn't Jungle Boy? Yeah?
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I was. I was gonna saysomething similar where it's like, how
how wild is it that the biggestbaby face right now was the biggest heel
last Yeah, Because like not onlyjust that, but in the dawning of
aw you know, you're looking attheir originals and it's like, oh,
well, obviously, you know,Darby can probably be the flip flop guy.
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You know Sammy, uh yeah,probably flip flop, but mostly he'll
I think MJF. Yeah, that'sgonna be a career heel. There's no
question in my mind, Jungle Boy, that's our non luchador rain my stereo.
They are not turning that mother fucker. And then those two wind up
being the ones that flipped, likelegit, they flipped like a fucking coin
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dude. Yeah no, no,we'll get to Jack later, but yeah,
so better than you, babe.Adam Collin MJF defeat Assie Open in
a seven minute and forty five secondmatch where MJF hits both the kangaroo kick,
which if you guys have yet todo this, go to aws YouTube
channel and just search up Adam Coin. Mjf's like antics together because they did
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a lot of shit where they filmedthem out and about it, like fucking
outback Steakhouse and a bunch of otherfucking places that's where the kangaroo kick had
come from. And then also theirfucking double clothes line finishing move, which
I think is the greatest thing ever. The fact that these two have got
you so invested in them hitting adouble clothes line that when you hit,
when they fucking hit it, thecrowd goes ballistic and they actually pinned them
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with it, and the tope suasidowhether m JF doesn't fucking dive and Cole's
like, you could fucking do it, and then he'll do it like later
on the same card. So it'slike storytelling its progression. It's you know,
it's like, no, these two, they just get it. And
Ozzie Open is really good too,you know, like everybody is gonna obviously
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talk about m JF and Adam Cole, but no, like these guys were
ROH champions for a reason, Likethey're good dude, yeah, and and
and taking the pinfall losses are goingto affect them metal. No, the
fact that they got the rub fromthese guys in general, you know,
yeah, exactly. Then we moveon to the FTW championship match between Hook
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and Jack Perry, who is defendingthe championship against Hook, who is trying
to win it back. Uh Sothe story which I hate. I hate
this because the next two matches thatwe're gonna be talking about like we should
be talking about the actual work rateof both matches, because let's be honest,
the Hook and Jack Perry match was, for what it was, was
pretty fucking good. Yeah. No, No, they don't have bad chemistry
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whatsoever. You know, Hook,I've been on the Hook train from the
getting I think we all have,man, but like sind Hook, Yeah,
like he's great, but he isimproving even more, you know,
so that's a great sign. Mygripe with the match is the I don't
know if it's the booking, butit's the all encompassing storyline here where I'm
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like, Okay, what was thepoint of this? Yeah, And I
mean maybe it's more or less toget Jack over as a fucking heel and
which I mean, yes, yeah, but who else is he got a
fight right now? That's kind oflike the whole And they haven't been doing
shit with hook sadly like they needto. Yeah, I just I don't.
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I don't know, man, becauseon one hand, it's like,
you gave me a Jack Perry versusRVD match, Thank you for that.
Yeah. Without the FTW title,that match would have made zero sense.
Yep, So I get it.But I'm still like, it wouldn't kind
have been funny to watch him runthe gauntlet of x ECW guys that still
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wrestle. Yeah, like like bringDreamer in for a match, brings Sandman
in for a match, bring bringBully Ray in for a fucking match.
Yeah, in that instance would havebeen either Dreamer or Van Dam that would
have been the all in match.Yeah. I would have done Jack versus
Hook at all out in a perfectworld, you know this. Obviously things
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happened at this event that would havemixed that to begin with. But yeah,
my point is is that dude,have have that be the story that
way, because as it is,it's just it felt like this was very
rushed. Yeah it maybe they brokethemselves unto a corner, didn't know what
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else to do with it. Iguess, yes, I mean Hook wins
and in eight minutes and twenty secondsand he chokes him out. Basically still
a good match, though it's notthe only one that choked Jack out.
Yeah, no shit. So whatwe're referring to, which will kind of
lead into this next match is allegedly, I have to fucking say this sadly
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allegedly see him Punk vetoed a spotthat jungle Boy Jack Perry was wanting to
film during a Collision taping where hewanted he wanted to use real glass for
an angle that was going to happenand see him. Punk was like,
dude, if you want to dothat, go to Dynamite, Like,
we don't do that here because like, on one hand, Collision is a
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very different show than that. Secondly, I know, goddamn good and well
that Phil Brooks the person was probablytrying to also look out for Jack Perry,
the person's physical safety, because thatis fucking stupid. It really fucking
is, because everybody else, includingMoxley, uses fucking candy glass. One
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word Goldberg exactly. Goldberg infamously smasheda limousine when shield like for real on
nitro or thunder. I can't remember. I think it was nitro, but
he fucking he would up like gashinghis whole forearm and severing some shit and
he was out for months because ofthat. Damn near had to get his
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shit amputated. YEP. So sofor one, if you're doing like let's
say a backspot, okay, Iunderstand that that is still different, but
kidneys, you're like there's still shippedback there, buddy. And also it's
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just like, I also understand thatyou're young, you want to try and
make a name. I get it. Would be smart about it. God
yeah, and also maybe don't.I'm convinced that he was trying to work
punk and also get heels. Heatis a heel, I'm sure. Yeah.
I would like to think that himhaving this attitude where he then went
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backstaged and kind of go to punk. I would like to think that that's
just him trying to be punk,you know, and try and be like,
come on, just do a fuckingmatch on right, when all he
would really have to do is justbe like, hey, I'm gonna work
with you and just just be oldschool about it. But he's fucking not.
I mean, yeah, I know, but we can't ignore that Punk
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did the same thing to Austin,right, So I would like to believe
that that is the case. Butwell, what we're referring to is that
Jack Perry had made his entrance tothe match with a limousine, and they
had most of this match around thislimousine. Jack Perry looks dead ass fourth
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Wall, breaking into the camera,smacks the like he does that thing where
the car Smellsman's like, you know, this can fit so many fucking like
he slaps the hood of the cars, can fit so many insert funny line
here in the car he smacks thewindshield and just looks right at the camera
and he's like real glass crime orriver And I'm like, oh my fuck.
As soon as he said that,I was like, We're really gonna
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be talking about this over the restof this pay review on social media,
aren't we. And that's that's sadthat that's what happened. But you know,
leading into CM Punk's match with SamoaJoe that opens the actual all in
event for the Real World Championship,before Punk even goes through the fucking curtain,
there is an incident, for like, involving him and Jack Perry.
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Now, according to whoever's side youbelieve it, I'm not going to get
into it too much, but oneside would have you believed that Sam Punk
instigated the thing, and the otherside would have you believed that Jack Perry
was straight up marched through the curtainafter his match and walked right up to
him and started instigating to him.Either way, both of these men as
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of this recording are currently suspended becauseof all this shit, and neither man
is appearing at all out in Chicago. Let's not get too buried into this.
I'm not I'm not, but I'mjust saying, like, that's what
happened from all of this shit.I only say that just because what else
is there for us to add thathasn't been said on other podcasts Exactly,
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It's just us like saying that thisis what happened. It sucks, like
it's unfucking fortunate for the company asa whole, and it's unfortunate for Tony
Kahn, the PR team. It'sactually unfortunate for fucking Punk and Perry,
Like they're leaving money, potential moneyon the table. They're leaving a lot
of the other talent like having tocover up again. You know, do
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you think that the Bucks had somethingto do with this? I'm not even
going to get into that answers myquestion. I'm not getting into that shit.
I just my main thing is,and I texted you this. If
Tony was not the owner, ifhe was a supervisor, a manager,
etc. How long ago do youthink he would have been fired fucking while
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back like brawl Out would have neverhappened. No, no, I genuinely
believe that he would have been letgo the night of Rustlemania where he let
Cody fucking Rhodes walk out of hiscompany and then was instantly catapulted to the
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top of WWE. I think thatwould have been the night where, if
roles were reversed, Vince would havelooked at that man and said, what
if the fuck did you do?You're gone? Do you let him leave?
And now look at that reception,look at the merch sales. You
get to get out of my office. Yeah, exactly, And like I'm
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not sucking Vince's dick for that,I'm just but that's that's that's what he
would have done. Yeah, that'strue. It's what business would have been
like. But to get down toactual business, I would love to talk
about as good as Jack Perry andHook's match was, Dude, are you
ever going to see a bad matchbetween Punk and Joe? Really? Like
these guys put on like these guysfor all intents and purposes opened his show
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and put a fucking clinic on inthat ring. Yes they did. And
the first time I was watching theevent, I was grossly hungover, so
I had to do a rewatch.Plus, like none of my buddies were
able to watch it live because ofwork and everything. But rewatched it,
and I was looking for signs ofPunk being pissed off, you know,
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but no he was. He wasprofessional. Yep, yep, yep,
exactly great stuff. Like you said, you're not going to get a bad
punkin Joe match. But I willsay that this was much better than their
match on Collision. Absolutely, andI think for a multitude of reasons.
One, they hadn't worked together andas long, like as a ring of
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honor has you know, been liketheir old stopic ground so and plus put
them in front of this crowd.Dude, yeah, they're they're gonna they're
gonna have a meeting out of thepalm in their head for fuck's sake.
When I swear to God, assoon as as soon as Punk started he
threw the first fucking shoulder tackle.I knew what he was doing, yep,
as like, if he hits ita second, oh there's a second
one. If Joe swings for thatfucking clothes up there it is and he
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fucking puts him down and throws hishand up. I was like this man
is not about the five knuckles shuffle. This motherfucker and Whimbley I would have
marked out because see him. Punkand John Cina actually do have a big
respect for each other. Great recognize, great, you know what I'm saying.
But no, he doesn't go aroundof a scene, and this motherfucker
has been hoganing it up in thering. I think it's actually very funny
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that so many people are like,oh, punks like acting like Hogan did
in the fucking nineties. And Ithink it's hilarious that Punk is trolling.
Everybody's like, you know what I'mgonna fucking do like the hand of the
ear. I'm gonna start fucking usingthe leg drop. I'm gonna spray paint
my fucking championship belt. Dude.It's so good also in terms of being
a professional and everything. When Joethrew Punk underneath the fuck it first of
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all, cool as fuck spot yeah, because you don't really see that ship.
No, So whenever it happened,I was like, got okay,
word yeah, And then when Punkcame out, he was bleeding yes professionalism.
If you're gonna fucking do a bladejob, don't look directly in the
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camera. When you do it,yeah, because like that was the best
way to hide it and make itlook as realistic because that was a sick
looking like crash and burn hand ofthat table another part I marked out at
which you know, it's not thatI don't think or know that Punk can
do these fucking moves. Bro.When when Old Boy come off the top
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and hit that hurricane ran, Iwas like, yes, I thought,
was like, fucking do that shit, man, Because Punk I love when
he pulls those tricks out of hisfucking back. Well. It's like with
his match with Sina on Raw thatwas just as good as their money in
the bank match. Loved it,loved it, and correct me if I'm
wrong that that match made a cameoon Hangover Part three. It sure fucking
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did. Also, I wasn't entirelysure if it was that movie, but
I'm willing to put this month's mortgageon it right on. And let's not
take anything away from Joe, who, in my opinion, barely ever has
a bad match. It's fucking SamoaJoe that that guy's a goddamn machine,
and they worked so well together.This was a great match. Fourteen minutes
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flat, Siam Punk defeats Samoa Joeusing the fucking Pepsi plunge that he hasn't
used in literal fucking years. Theonly gripe that I have is that the
crowd didn't seem to expect that tobe the finish, so they didn't react
like it was a finish. Yeah, I think a lot of that also
had to do with Punk is becauseof brawl Out is kind of a polarizing
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character too, you know, becausepeople are not separating Phil and see him
Punk, They're they're they're looking atthem one of the same, which in
a lot of ways sure, butlike I look at see him Punk with
the character as like this fucking trollingshit head, and I love it so
much. But yeah, he retainsthe Real World Championship in fourteen seconds.
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Excellent match. It's one of mymatches of the night, honestly. Moving
on to a six man tag teammatch, It's Bullet Club Gold, which
is it's j White, Juice Robinsonand yeah, I love Juice Robinson and
Takeshta versus the Golden Lead Kenny Omega, Adam Page and Culta Abushi in a
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twenty minute and thirty second match.You know, I might be in the
minority here. I don't feel likethis match quite lived up to what it
should have been until like the fuckingback half of it, and it was
a little too late for me.Like I don't like saying that this was
like a piss break match, butit felt like a piss break match in
some fashion. I would not gothat far with it. For one,
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I think some of it had todo with some jitters. I feel as
though Kenny and Adam Page probably sawwhatever scuffle there was backstage, it was
probably distracted. I think that therewas obviously, you know, you can't
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everybody has a bad day in theoffice too. Sure, not that this
was a bad day, No,And I'm not I need to clarify that
I'm not completely shitting on this match. I just feel like, comparatively speaking
to what I know, the workstandard of these six men are could have
been better, right, I mean, Ibushi, you can still tell is
adapting you think, I don't knowif it's adapting. It's not that I
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don't think that he's healed. It'sjust that I think he's nervous. Yeah,
because this is a like he couldbring his style to this company.
But another way, he's got to, like, he's still got to figure
it out. He may be inthe ring with people he's never worked with
before that too, And I'm sayingthis as somebody who you know, if
like I don't know, like workingout, for example, if I get
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sick and if I'm out of workingout for like a week week and a
half, when I get back,I'm very tepid, Like I don't want
to go for my heavy shit thatI was doing a week and a half
ago, right, gonna lean intoit like like he's into I should say,
yeah, And I kind of seesome of that with him, but
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I will say that he he hada better showing than he did at Blood
and Guts. Yeah, same likeI think that. I think it's because
for me, the match went alittle long, and because there's a lot
of multiple person matches on this card, there's barely anyone on ones this was
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I said it could have been better. Bullet Club gold win the match,
though, which I did not expectto happen. So I'm kind of happy
they did that because look, man, Bullet Club been getting their asses beat
on Collision for a while and theyreally needed that fucking w I know,
I was shocked on who it was, and also, I will eat my
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words. I don't I don't rememberif I said it while we were recording,
but I know my prediction was Orangewould lose his title to Tekeshta on
this show. And it didn't happenobviously. Yeah, So not that I'm
upset about that, It's just likethat was my prediction. No, they
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got other plans for that, andmoving on from this this uh sixth man,
Let's move over to the a eW World Tag Team Championship match in
probably my second match of the night. I know, the front half of
this had me kind of like whatthe fuck, but then once it kicked
out, I was like, Okay, here we go. It's FTR versus
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the Young Bucks for the aw WWorld Tag Team Championships and the third meeting
between these two teams, and honestly, this is probably the best of the
three matches in my opinion. Iwas very surprised, believe it or not,
with the outcome. Honestly, sameI just assumed that the Bucks would
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win it because of Cash Wheeler's incidents. Yes, yeah, not that.
Hey, everybody's innocent until proven guilty, right, but it would have been
like a I interpreted the thought asTony would have been. I don't want
to call it a knee jerk reaction, but it would have been like no,
it would have been to protect likeit as much as people would be
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like no, how do you sayit like that? This would have been
to protect cash Wheeler in a way. Yeah, I'm looking at it from
the top of company that too,But what I'm saying is like, it's
a way to protect cash, protectthe belts, and protect like the fucking
business. Really, if you thinkabout it, because's like, to what,
how do you explain if his caselike gets like you know that far,
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and he gets found guilty or hehas to do anything other than pay
a fine or any of that shit. It's like, why do you fucking
explain, like, hey, thisdude's going away for a while because you
can't exactly put him on television towrite him off and if you don't want
to vacate the titles. So that'swhy I thought Tony was going to get
it off of them in a match. And when it comes to a ew
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you know, you can hate theBucks all you want, but if you're
watching aw and the young Bucks win, the tag team titles. It's like,
are you really going to be like, I can't believe it, right,
That's like every time Hogan won theWorld Championship at WCSB man, right,
Like, I mean, it's youcan hate it all you want,
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but it's an acceptable on a currentright because at least you know, not
that not that FTR isn't doing this. But what I'm saying is like,
at least you know what the bucksthat the belts would be in safe hands.
In the meantime, It's like,okay, well they'll at least show
up and show out every fucking match, which both teams showed up and showed
out this match. No, thatfucking four fifty that Cash Wheeler fucking went
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for Jesus Christ. I didn't thinkhe had it in him. It's a
big boy to be doing this,I'm telling you, man, he's a
stocky big boy too, dude,because the way he's built, I'm just
like, why he built like that? That's a scary man, Honestly,
dude. It's funny because like CashWheeler has like that, He's he's you
know, built like that. Butthen like Dax and I love Dax,
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Dax, Dax has like buff Manbod and it's fucking awesome because I'm like,
Dax is like that cool uncle thatI'll kick your ass. I mean
he's called Uncle Dax on Twitter fora fucking reason. But still FTR pull
out the victory by pinfall, surprisingdecision in great match. After the match,
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the Bucks refused to shake their hands, so I know this is leading
somewhere. Moving on to the stadiumStampede match, which I thought was a
very odd bald choice because typically theStadium Stampede takes place in an empty stadium.
But they brawled all quote all overWimbley. It's Eddie Kingston, Pentel,
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Sero Miedo and the Best Friends,which is Chuck Taylor, Trimp Bread
and Orange Cassidy versus the Blackpool CombatClub, John mox League, Claudio Castannoli,
Wheeler Unit and then Santana and Ortiz. Backstory, Santana and Ortiz have
still not mended fence, as theyhad a big falling out last year sometime
before the Blood and Guts match thatSantana got injured in. Also, I
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know that Kingston and Santana, Iwant to say they also have had like
a falling out like there's a coupleof people like within like the confines of
this match, that have like reallife falling out like with one another.
So I was surprised, which professionallyspeaking, and they can put their shit
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aside and go out and work ashow, but I was really surprised to
see Santana and Ortiz like working togetherin the ring at certain points, because
like they don't even dress similarly anymore. Like Ortiz looks like a fucking he
looks like an extra on Scarface now, and Mike Santana looks like he's trying
to actually wear some fucking wrestling gearand get back in there and become something
more than just a tag specialist.No, Santana, he's the guy on
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that team. I'm sorry. Yeah, absolutely the match was good. You
know, A fucking highlight of thenight for me was this match. Honestly,
dude, there was so much wildfucking shit going on, and can
we just talk about Orange Cassidy.That was amazing, Okay? To me?
The match was at times jarring,only not because of the match the
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match itself, Like if I werein the arena live probably would have been
a highlight for me too. Ijust I just found like, as with
every stadium Stampede match and every Bloodand Guts match, every anytime you get
more than four people involved, isit the production truck? YEP? Say,
I had the same fucking problems,dude, because it's hard to keep
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and keep you know, around fivepeople at a time, and then you
did multiply that by two and yougot to keep up with ten fucking people
that are going to be everywhere,you know. So uh yeah. So
think about the context of me beinghung over and watching this ship and I'm
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not man's just sitting there stick off. And I was like, what the
fun is that? Just sit there? Because that night, did I tell
you what I had? No?I had a four loco and a half
and a smearnoff. Oh four loco, have some respect for yourself. Yeah,
it should have been steel reserve.I'm exactly exactly, fucking swine.
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I fucking love me some four loco, love me some steel reserve. And
I was at some bad twenty Comeon, yeah, dude, like that
that's how I am. I don'tknow, I like my trashy shit,
but I had one and then Iwas with all my buddies and everything that
the night before I was fucked up, and so the next morning I was
just like fuck shit, Like wheneveryou you were texting me, uh about
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the Seaham Punk and Jack Perry shit, I was at home showing the fuck
down by this point in the show, like I was awake, but I
was definitely like fuck okay, I'mI'm too dizzy for all the cuts and
the shaky cat. I can't.I can't. Yeah, there are some
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highlights in this match. Obviously,it's like where it's like, okay,
so Eddie Kingston, Pentel Zaromido andbest friends, they win the match.
But the fucking highlights of this matchwere Moxley recycling the skewer spot that woke
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me up. Oh dude, Isaw the fucking indie show he did this
at like a couple of weeks ago, and then whenever I saw them come
out, I was like, Oh, he's gonna do it again. He's
literally the fucking GOOFY mean, He'slike, gonna fucking do it again,
madman, because you know, thefucking tips of it were hitting skull,
yes, like like bull contact,and I would dare say the tips of
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him probably snapped on the inside.Get some Tweezers. Yeah, probably so
fucking Ricky Bobby cut around the meat. Yeah, dude, Oh god,
everybody was bleeding this fucking match.I think the fucking best part about it,
aside from some of those spots,were when Cassidy decided, Hey,
I'm gonna wrap duct tape around myfucking hand and I'm gonna bust this glass
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bottle and I'm gonna he's gonna fuckinglike Taipei deathmatch. His goddamn fist like
dips a tape fist into this glassso he can do his orange punch.
Great, it was good shit man, just him getting the victory. It
was just a chef's kiss. Man. If anything, I'm not saying that
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this is exactly what it was designedfor, but if anything, every time
Cassidy is in the ring in amatch that is not even his style,
it just elevates him even more so. Cassidy is one of those people that
it's like just whenever I think like, okay, I've seen what this gimmick
is. Not that I've ever beensour on him, but it's just like,
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it might be time for you toturn heel. Maybe I don't know.
Then he goes and does a spotwhere I'm like, I guess the
well is not dry. Okay,no, not at all. And it's
great because Cassidy is absolutely one ofthose people where you constantly question, You're
just like, well, how muchmore over can we get you? Like
differently, even he fucking goes outand proves everybody fucking wrong. Every time
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anybody's got a doubt against this man, it's like, nah, just watch
him. Let this man cook.And then on Dynamite the next show,
he cuts a promo, which issomething that he doesn't do, so yeah,
asks for a microphone and a chair, sits in the middle of the
fucking ring, and just goes onabout like defending the International Championship like it's
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his fucking life force. And Iadored the ass into that where he was
just like, my name is OrangeCassidy, and I do not have a
catchphrase. He really fucking doesn't,man, he doesn't need one. His
whole gimmick is what gets him over. In fact, like that is like
the only match I would really likebe, you know, looking forward to
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it all out, is going tobe him and John Moxley for that championship.
And I feel like I think that'sthe main event because the neither World
Championship is on the pay per viewand that is the biggest championship outside of
the world title. For me,what do you think happens? I think
Moxley wins it. Honestly, that'swhat my gut is telling me. But
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yeah, probably because they need somethingbig for that show. Yeah, like
we'll eventually get there, but toput a stamp on this half of the
pay per view, Stadium Stampede rantwenty one minutes and thirty seconds, and
the last three matches that we havetalked about that we're all a tag match
of some sort. These three matchesalone ran an hour and two minutes maybe
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three, Like holy shit, likean hour and three minutes was like three
fucking matches. We was feasting.Yeah, when we come back from this
break, we're gonna pick back upwith the a EW Women's World Championship match.
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gonna talk about the aw Women's WorldChampionship match, which a dude, I'll
be honest with you, I feellike they got shafted on time. Probably
I knew what the fucking finish wasgoing to be as soon as they started
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like building for this match. Sadly, I will I will say this because
I have some mixed feelings about it. It's it's Saya Hikar Rashida, who
is the champion, Doctor Britt BreakerD and D and Tony Storm when they
were doing all the introductions. I'mprobably gonna get a lot of shit for
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this. It was fucking unnecessary forSoreya's entire family to come out to the
ring with her through the entrance,right Like. That was so fucking cornball
to me, and I'm just like, can you possibly like give the finish
away any more than you already are. Then, like Hikar Rashida, who
is the absolute workhorse of these women, comes out with her title deservedly so
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to the ring and a massive reception. Britt Baker always gets a good pop.
Tony Storm comes out to fucking crickets, my guy. And it's kind
of funny because you know when wheneverAlex and I were watching it, they
were like, there's like nobody like, there's nobody sharing, there's nobody booing.
I was like, she's from Australia. And then Alex goes, oh,
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that makes sense. It was like, dude, the fuck they don't
give a fuck about him if they'refrom Australia. It's like, oh,
but Tony Storm is doing some greatwork right now, gimmick wise, dude.
Yeah, like the little Marilyn Monroething taking it Yeah, yeah,
it's it's something different, dude.Yeah, and that's why I'm sad that
these these women got fucked out oftime for this match. It ended way
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too quickly for me. Oh sowell the tyle rain itself. But yeah,
but who's counting. Yeah, Soreyagoes over in eight minutes, in
fifty seconds, and obviously that wasgonna happen. That was like, I
would have won a million bets playsome money on this. I'm thinking that
she's just gonna lose it on eitherall out or something very very very soon.
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I think Mercedes Money challenges her wrestleddream in October. Yeah, that
makes sense. I mean shit,he's definitely either signed or agreed to sign
one of the two or it justappears with them at some point who she
was actually in the crowd as well. So yeah, and that's what I'm
referring to. As as many timesas they've shown her, she's definitely signed.
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Absolutely. We're moving on to thetag team Coffin match with Darby All
and Sting versus Christian Cajun Swarm Strickland. I love the fact that we'll talk
about Tony Kahn getting like all thismusic for all these these guys over the
last year. Dude. The factthat this man went out and got Seek
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and Destroy by Metallica to play Stingto the ring was was awesome because do
you remember Staying. I don't know, you don't remember when it was happening.
I was about to say no,but I know it. Sting used
this as his interesting in nineteen ninetynine, and god damn it was such
a throwback and Staying finally getting youknow this, this type of crowd.
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I will never ever in my lifeforget the way that they tried to bury
him on fucking WrestleMania, Like,this is what it's like Sting in front
of all these people's like, don'tunderstand what his run was. I know
it was cut very short. Heonly had two matches, but it's lost
both. That's what I don't understand. With Seth. You can make the
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argument of oh, he's putting theyoung guy over. Okay, would not
have been my call, but okay, triple h. There was really no
There was no fucking excuse for that. Yeah. I don't know what that
was. Yeah, but Darby Allenand Sting and Cage and Strickland. Fuck,
this was a fun match. Didyou read what Darby said. I'm
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pretty sure I've heard it, butI don't remember. He says a lot
of shit. Darby comes off likehe doesn't remember half of what he's said.
Well, he's probably can cost halftime, that bastard. How many
concussions have you had? Man?Yes? I know, yeah, exactly
how many concussions have you had?I like turtles? God damn it.
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No. He said that he's notat one hundred percent and that he kind
of fucked his back up a littlebit on that one spot. Oh you
talk about whenever he hit the coffindrop from the from the fucking top rope
to the outside on the coffin.Yeah, I kind of thought that too.
Yeah, I mean, nobody shouldbe surprised. But also like,
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dude, still fucking he's still comingin. You're you're talking about a guy
who legitimately heavily athletic tape two brokenankles just to do a fucking drop in
on a skateboard. Yeah, Like, this dude is he don't give a
fuck no, And that's where Ilove about him, Like, that's a
guy that he's gonna keep going.He doesn't give a shit about his health,
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his well being none of it.It's all about the show. Many
He's got a great attitude. Yep, Stinging Darby Allen win this match,
dude, and you know it's great. Uh Swerve Strickland and Christian Cage like
Cage always has. Just he's sucha good foil for whoever the baby face
is. Like, Christian is sucha great heel. He's such a great
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fucking talent and Swerve is just Swervebrings it every goddamn times. He's one
of those fucking workhorse guys that itdoesn't matter if he wins or loses it.
Like I think, his talent isjust raw as fuck, and that
just that that carries him. Obviously, we would have loved if AhR Fox
was there, but it's unfortunate circumstances, you know, yep, So rest
(44:38):
in peace to the old lady.Yeah, but he'll he'll definitely be there
next year, oh for sure.Moving on to Jesus Christ, what is
like I shouldn't say it's a surprisinglike match, but Goddamn will Asbury versus
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Chris Jericho was better than I thoughtI was gonna be. Like I knew
it was gonna be good, LikeI knew it was gonna be a good
match. It's Jericho and fucking willAsbury. Dude, Jericho is in there
moving like he's fucking thirty though.Yeah, Like this was one of Jericho's
best matches, and honestly it's probablysince his match with Kingston. Yeah.
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Yeah, and honestly one of hisbest matches since him in fucking Kenny.
Yeah, it was really really good. Jericho always does really great overseas.
Have you noticed that? Do you? Do you think he's pacing himself?
I think so. I think hesaves up a lot of what he can
do for these big fucking matches,which is smart. Oh well yeah,
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because it's like he doesn't let onthat he can still go that fucking hard
until it's time to go that fuckinghard, and than he does that fucking
storm breaker counter that he did.Dude, Jesus Christ, that goddamn her
krana, Like how fast that shitwas. God, the fact that will
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kicked out of the Judas Effect,Okay, thank you, thank you for
bringing that up, because god damnit, it pissed me the fuck off.
Nobody nobody said dick about it,dude, Like the fucking announced team
shit, the bed on that mother, Like, I'm gonna go on a
fucking rant right now. That movehas been built since he was fucking using
it. Nobody has kicked out ofit every fucking time it's hit. That's
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it. That's the fucking game over. Will kicks out of it the crowd,
for fucking sure, which is losingtheir ship. But the announced it
just like, oh, you're justa kicks he kicks out, Like,
are you not going to fucking sellthat. He kicked out of Jericho's finisher
that has never been kicked out of. That's like somebody kicking out of the
fucking one way and Angel, whichI think is going to happen. Yeah,
I do too, But god damnI fuck man man, y'all fucking
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blew it. God damn it.Which is weird because the announced team,
for the most part, was onpoint this show, laughing up something so
fucking angry about that. Dude,God damn it, dude, the veins
in your head. Hold down,brock. I fucking can't. Oh,
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the match was good, calm down, it was very good, But oh,
my fucking god, get your shittogether. No, this for me,
it's hard to say if this wasmatch of the night for me,
But it was to me the mostsurprising so sleeper hit. Yeah, like
and it's so weird because it's likeyou look at the two people. But
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I really did think that it wasgonna end up being Will initially running circles
around him and then having to slowdown for him. But no, it
was quite the fucking opposite. Actually, yeah, like it was. It
was great. Yeah, Will ostPray defeats Chris Jericho by pinfall in fourteen
minutes and fifty five seconds. Iwonder if that was actually a conversation where
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Will was just like a man,I'm gonna, you know, slow down,
Yeah, can you slow down foryou? Like, how are you
feeling? Jericho's like, fuck youright? I just played fucking Judas to
the That was the other highlight ofthis where Fozzy shows up and like Jericho
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sings his entrants while he sings theirsong Judas but which is his interesting but
he sings it to the ring andit's like fucking a man, And you
know that motherfucker did that just sohe could say that Fozzy played wimbley.
Oh my god. Yeah, probablyyep, so good on him anyway.
Yeah, moving on to the acclaimedversus the House of Black for the Trio's
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World Championship in a house rules matchwhere they chose of course and no holds
bard match. I saw this whenCome a Mileoy too. The Acclaimed win
a great match, absolutely yeah,But I like the fact that the House
of Black handed them the title belts. That's like that that that means a
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lot more than like you would thinkit does. Like if you're just a
casual viewer, just like, oh, that's sportsmanship. And I'm like,
motherfucker, if you could win theHouse of Black's respect, that's more than
just fucking sportsmanship, my guy.I just hope that they keep the House
of Black strong, Like I don'twant them to feel like an afterthought.
Again, no they shouldn't. AndI really feel like this was this was
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pretty much to give like the Acclaimedsome gold again after they lost the championships,
like the Tag Championships, and alsoagain I have to see it as
kind of a reward for Billy becausethe man like he still works like he
did thirty years ago. Fuck,he works like he did thirty years years
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ago. It's insane. The onespot where they did the scissor Me timbers
on Julia I fucking died. Notonly was I laughing, but even whenever
I was fucked up, I waslike, it should have been me,
not him. It's not fair.Should have been me. Like I was
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doing the fucking Arthur meme where thefifth the fifth was clinched. Yeah,
dude, I was mad as fuck. I'm not gonna line. The vein
was popping out of his forehead likeit was nine a while ago. Oh
dude, it was brutal. Let'smove on to the main event for the
a e W World Championship, MJFversus Adam Cole Bay Bay in a twenty
nine minute flat excellent fucking match.This this is my match of the night.
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And in terms of storytelling, whathappened in the ring, the drama,
the crowd investment, because god damn, they had that crowd in the
palm of their hand from the fuckingfront end of this show, and they
had them eating out of the palmof their hand by the back end of
this That is unheard of, man, dude. And and it's really a
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different result than what I expected.I expected either of them to lose the
tag match, and then from thereAdam turns on MJF. Once they won
the tag titles, I was like, okay, hmm, well, I
still think Adam's going to turn onhim and that's going to be the story.
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Is heal Adam tagging with rod Yeah, yep, yeah, because the
story behind that is also Roddy Stronghas been, you know, shitting on
Adam Goal trying to be like,no, I'm your best friend, like
he's playing the role of the toxicex girlfriend and it's very funny actually,
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but that happens through off this matchwhere there's there's moments where because they go
and they put their tag team tshirts on and they wrestle each other in
him and there's one point where AdamCole just rips it off of m JF
and dude Cole's leaning into like theheel shit here. Yeah, that's what
is making the fact that they're bothbaby face so surprising. Yeah, I
think he kind of had to bethe de facto heel in this match,
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though, only because m JF isso goddamn over right now is a baby
face like people have been waiting on, like, well, when's zim Jf's
like, when's the motherfucking shoe gonnadrop? And he just like it's a
ruse or whatever, and it's likeno, Like this is like like this
is the peak of this angle wheremjf's baby face turn is completely solidified in
my opinion. Yeah, as thematch goes, they hit the double clothes
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line and they pin each other andit's a draw. And then there's a
call back to that first encounter theyhad where Adam Cole's like five more minutes.
M Jf's like no, and quoteof the night for me, five
minutes is not enough. We're gonnakeep going until we get a winner and
fucking Wimbley. And when he saidthat, I shit you. Not a
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minute later on social media on Twitter, slash x quote fucking Wimbley was trending
worldwide. That is the funniest goddamnthing I have ever seen trend on Twitter's
fucking Wimbley, I know. Andthat's just MJF. Dude, just he's
so fucking good, like on themic out loud, we're not We're gonna
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go until we get a winner andfucking Wimbley, And we got a winner.
MJF beats him by pinfall, andthe aftermath of the match is like
the big story here because like Coleis pissed and dejected a little bit,
and you get you get the feelinglike this is where he's gonna do it,
because you know, MJF is like, hey, these people still love
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you, like they're you know,chatting your name. They still fucking love
you. I got lucky all thisother shit. He goes, hey,
look look, he grabs their tagbutslike, look, we're still fucking champs
and all this other ship. Andthen like Cole throws it and it's like
that makes Max, you know,do the whole thing. Like you know,
he starts having kind of a breakdownand he's like, you know,
you never gave a shit about me. You weren't really my friend? That
was all? Was it all forthis here? You know what? You
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know a matter of fact, Fuckyou take it. He throws the title
belt at him and just turned hisbackways. We're I'm gonna get, you
know, clocked in the head.That's when Roddy Strong is like trying to
coerce I'm going to doing it,but Adam just doesn't fucking do it.
Like he hesitates and he doesn't doit, you know, and then they
hug it out in the middle ofthe ring and they celebrate together and there's
fucking confetti and pyro and all theyou know, pomp and circumstance, which
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the event fucking deserved to go outon this note. Oh yeah, man,
they motherfucker's had me crying and shit, I was so happy for that,
like like it was the culmination oflike that storyline which is still going
on the pay per view being sucha success. Uh just every bit of
it like had me just emotional asshit, and I was like, oh,
(54:53):
this is this is why I fuckingfell in love with pro wrestling,
dude. And the thing is isit was such a good call to make,
only because like for a show likethis, you want to send that
crowd home happy, especially if it'syour first one. Sometime after the match,
we get the graphic that Aw's gonnabe going back to Wimbley next August
(55:19):
for all In again, and I'mjust like, oh my god, I
hope they do it again. Wesaid it at the top of this fucking
episode, like they I hope theysell it out every fucking time they go
oh yeah. I feel like basedon the success of this, which honest
like that's the last match and justfrom mash quality, and you know a
lot of surprises and stuff like Iwould easily get this like a fucking four
(55:40):
out of five, Like fasly,it's not even a perfect pay per view,
but it's damn near perfect. Yeah, it's It's one of those things
where it gives you pretty much everythingthat you were wanting, you know.
So I've got no major complaints,just a few nip picks and questions looking
wise, like like I said,the FTW title and everything, But yeah,
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no, four of four out offive is pretty spot on. Yeah,
I'd say it's fair. Honestly.It'll be interesting to see where they
take a lot of these stories fromhere, especially with m JF and Adam
Colb. Oh, yeah, becauseyou know that that's going to be building
to something. It has to.There is one thing where it's like,
(56:24):
if I were TK, I wouldit's too late now for this year,
but next year would absolutely make allout two weeks after instead of one,
because I feel like, just foryour average consumer, that's a bit much.
It's kind of a tall order becausewhen you look at it, it's
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like, damn, I just spentone hundred bucks on wrestling pay per views.
Yeah I would, I would oneeither make that like a package because
he tried to make it a packagedeal like he did, but he said
like a lot of the providers werelocking that from happening. So a W
has also just recently announced a newOctober pay per view that's going to be
(57:06):
an annual thing. It's going tobe called a W's Wrestle Dream and it
is paying homage to Antonio Anoki thisyear, and I feel like that's going
to be the consensus going forward isit could very well be. It's not
like a it's not a forbidden Doortype of thing, but I feel like
it's going to have new Japan talentcome to the show, believe, But
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then to me, that diminishes forbiddenDoors. So I don't know, well,
not if you just labeled a Wyou know, Wrestle Dream, because
I mean, it's kind of likeWrestle Dream has a fucking New Japan feeling
name to it, to be honestwith you, Wrestle Kingdom. It does.
Yeah, and it doesn't even haveto be just new Japan, Like
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you can bring some people in fromstardom for the women's division and all kinds
of other ship. Dude. Yeah, I can't wait to watch that one
though. That's gonna be a lotof fun. Are you ready to get
the fuck out of here? Thankseverybody for hanging out with us this week.
This has been a e W allin from London Whimbley Stadium. Yeah
hell yeah yeah. Until next time. I'm Richie, I'm Devin shades On. We're all