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A return so shocking yet not soshocking at the same time to the
fact that we were just like,you know, uh, push the regular
episodes aside and let's put this bonusepisode out now. It's still weird,
like, not even in a bad, good anything way. It's just like
a huh damn okay, right,Welcome to the super Media Bros. Podcast,
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where two best friends give comedically informativetakes on movies, music, pro
wrestling, and more. I'm RitchieDevin. This is a stocking stuff for
bonus episode for the month of Decemberfor Santa Media Brose and it's quite literally
the first right out of the gateepisode of the month. We're talking about
Cmpunk's return to w WE, butbefore we get into that, Randy Orton
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also came back at Survivor series dude, and that that was awesome. By
the way, Yeah, it wasgood to see him back. I mean,
they they didn't necessarily make that asurprise. They did announce it to
basically cover up anything relating to Punkbecause according to Triple H Paulovec, the
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deal came together really quickly apparently asof like that afternoon. Oh so they
still weren't sure, like two threedays before. Supposedly Ink was not put
to paper until that day. Wow, Like earlier in the week, they
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had like an hour long conversation heand Phil and like they came to terms
on like what they were gonna doand all this other shit. Now,
before we get into the raw promo, the way that they had him come
back was fucking genius. It wasn'tlike let's insert him at the top of
the card, let's insert him intoa match, Let's insert him into an
immediate storyline, to the point wherea Hunter had an entire area in the
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back cleared out moments before he evenwalked out. He personally handled the production
truck calls for the last bit ofthat Survivor series wargames. Match personally called
for the copyright logo to hit thebottom of the screen, just like the
old school NXT days. Dude personallycalled for Punk's music after that, like
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they basically did their MCU moment wherethey were like, hey, here's some
post credits, dude. It wasreally fucking cool. And what I loved
about it is that it wasn't apromo. He didn't attack anyone. He
didn't even like call anyone out visually. It was just no, I'm here,
you know, uh as it shouldbe right. It was really fucking
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cool. And look, listen,Randy came out looking like a fucking god.
That dude, Randy Orton has okayto me, and this is obviously
like his his younger, like twentyyears ago, young Randy Orton, Like
you know, I'm talking like threefour five shit even that included. Randy
to me has never come out lookinglike less than a million bucks, right,
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His weight has flunctuated, but hehas never been out of shape.
Yeah, He's never been garbage likeat all, which is crazy because a
lot of these wrestlers, they theyhave their phases. You know, Orton
has always looked incredible. Now it'slike, good fucking lord, Like,
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did did you and Batista start hangingout? Like he came out looking like
triple h Whenever he came back fromthat fucking quad ter His neck alone looked
like bro. I was like,what the fuck, it's not even the
viper anymore. That's Sanda Conda.Yeah, and I mean, uh,
not to get too far out track, but like that to me is like,
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Okay, let's build some more musclemass to keep the spine aligned and
all this other shit, like that'sthat's what it looks like to me.
Probably, But I bring that upto say Punk looks like he's beefed up
too. He has, Uh,there's been I don't remember where it was
it was, I want to say, either Wrestling Headlines dot Com or something.
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The report was that he he wasstill in the gym every day training
in case he got a call fromwhoever. And now here's the funny part.
Before he signed with w W,he was very very close to signing
with TNA. Oh wow, likewould have debuted it hard to kill realistically,
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how much would you think that thatwould do for them? Oh,
it would have been a huge dealfor TNA. And it's not like Punk
was never a part of TNA before, Like that's certainly part of his history.
I just I just know that ifhe would have signed, it would
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have been good and bad at thesame time, Like good for TNA,
bad for him, probably right,I don't And really I don't think the
return would have been worth it,not because Punk isn't I think the attention
to TNA would not be no,no, particularly because what are they on
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Access? I don't even know ifthey're gonna be staying. That's the thing,
Like TNA has moved around so long. Yeah, we don't even have
Access TV here. That's the onlyreason I can't watch him Pat. That's
my point is I don't have it. You don't have it, None of
my friends have it. Like,and I'm not even shitting on Access.
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I know that if I had ashow and it got put on Access,
I'd be like, hell, yeah, dude, I'm on fucking TV brouh.
Yeah. But whenever you're missing outhouseholds, Yeah, for this,
that's not good. You need tobe on a network that's in more homes
and shit, right, So Idon't know. Uh as far as that
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goes, it's like, look,let's get down to the actual promo.
Okay, what are your thoughts onit? Because we have we've actually not
talked about it. That's the wholepoint too. Okay, So my initial
thought and I'm gonna I'm gonna breakthis down from the after hype from Survivor
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series, going into raw my initialfeelings on it, having let it sit
and then watching it again when you'recoming out of Survivor series. Shit,
what's next Punk with a mic inhis hand. That's no question the promo
we've got. And now bear inmind, this is how WWE has always
been. WWE likes to pretend,and even in the Triple H era,
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to some degree, WWE likes topretend that any of your time outside of
the company did not exist. Punk'spromo felt like his initial debut for AEW,
just a little less so and quick, which they cut his promo short
because they were running out of time. Yeah, I want to say.
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I read the Orton and dominic matchwent over. Yeah, But as far
as the content, at first,you know, you're thinking, Okay,
he's going to come out guns blazing. He didn't, which I'm also not
surprised at. If he's really turneda new leaf over, if he's really
done all this, which supposedly thereis a there's a behavior clause in his
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contract. Read about that, andas soon as I read the phrasing,
I was like, right, butmy first thought, and you're gonna laugh
at this. This is the humorpart. Okay. When I first heard
the promo and he was like I'mhome, I was like, oh,
the check cleared. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I did see a meme,
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so I'm not gonna take credit forbut it had said something along the
lines of like, look into thisman's eyes, he ain't happy to be
there, and I I was like, I mean, it's one still image,
you know, so it's unfair tosay, But why do I feel
like I don't know? So I'ma diehard punk fan. You know me
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too, So yeah, like,at the end of the day, we'll
watch him wherever he goes if wecan make it happen. You know.
That's not to downplay this or downplayhim. It's a huge deal. It
course corrected WWE. You know,like it changed what their history is going
to be. It certainly made,in my opinion, one of their best
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cliffhangers of all time. Sure,not even just Survivors series period, point
blank. Like, but there's apart of me that goes, Okay at
this point, how much of thishe even says he's here to make money,
How much of this is money?How much of this is ego?
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I'm nervous. I'm not shitting onanybody. I'm just kind of like you're
waiting on the other shoe to drop, right, I'm like, all right,
I've been burned, not once buttwice in the last like couple of
years. And I bring up thefact that I'm a diehard fan because this
was my childhood, you know,Like CM Punk was one of my heroes.
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Cempunk was the reason I got backinto professional wrestling. Yeah, and
he was one of the reasons whereI felt as a little kid like I
looked at him and I was like, I like him. And at first,
you know, my clean cut familywas like why and I was like,
I just relate. Well, youshouldn't I do, you know.
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So It's it's not me pooh poohingon him or like trying to cry tribalism
or anything like that. It's justkind of like I don't want to get
hurt again. I don't care whosefault it was in the other companies,
I just don't want it to happenagain, right, And I have things
to say about that as well.But getting to this promo again, like
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I said that the whole all thecheck clear, that was the that's the
humor part. I believe him,Okay, I believe him because think about
it this way, and I andthis might not be the best comparison or
what have you. If you're ina relationship with somebody and they hurt you,
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what are you doing? You're lightinga match and setting fire and you
don't give a fuck who else getsburned in the process? Correct? Yeah,
dude, especially us, We wesome grudge holders. Punk leaves WWE
in twenty fourteen amidst a lot ofshit. Can't blame him, don't blame
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him. No. However, thatis a different WW than the landscape we
have now. Vince McMahon is nolonger involved. You have a ten year
older Paul Avec who, by myview of his work with the NXT people
trying to bring that work ethic ontothe major like to like SmackDown and raw.
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He gives a shit. You know, this is a guy who wrestled,
He gave everything to the business andwants to continue that. I don't
think the whole it's best for businessthing is one hundred percent a clickbait line
or a or a whole shit line. Right. Yeah, look at the
Vince as he's mended. He hemended with Warrior Savage to an extent.
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Fucking Sam Martino, San Martino absolutelyso nobody should be surprised that Punk is
back in the WWE by those standards. However, I think people should be
surprised that he's back in the WWEjust based on recent actions, right,
I think that's what the issue is. So Yeah, like with with AW,
here's here's the whole fucking thing.Vince hurt him, dude, like
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a lot of the fucking decision making, all the political like backstage bullshit.
Now like I would leave too.Yeah, So enter AW. You've got
a company that starts up from peoplethat have also been burned by people in
the industry that are like, fuckthis, We're gonna make our own shit
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because they're tired of the same shit. You get see him Punk. That's
pretty fucking sweet because you pretty muchat that point, I don't give a
fuck who thought what? In twentytwenty one, to see Phil Brooks on
AW television was like getting the fuckingprofessional wrestling Holy Grail. It really was,
dude. However, the first yearis great until Adam Page rolls his
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fucking quote empty headed dumb fuck mouthon live television and I'm quoting Punk here,
and I know what a lot ofpeople out there thinking, like I'm
not shitting on Adam, I amsaying what Punk said, but to be
very fair and objective, he fuckingstarted that shit, and I've I've not
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lost sight on that, like,and That's why I wanted to make it
clear and say, like I don'tcare who started what because like at this
point, like we're we're fans ofwrestling period. We like both companies.
Sure, like we we also watchedNew Japan. Well, yep, we'll
watch whatever is put in front ofus. Uh. But the thing is,
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is, like, what's bothered meever since Punk got suspended that first
time is oh wait, I understandthat the parties that got suspended to begin
with and or fired were the onesthat were involved in a physical altercation.
But are are we? Are weall ignoring who actually started this? This
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is what I'm getting at. Duringthat during the infamous fucking press conference,
Punk saw everything for what it was, the fucking I don't care And this
is this is coming from somebody whois a diehard aw guy. The inmates
run the asylum there, Oh mygod. Yeah, he sees that that's
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not how he does business. Thinkabout where he came from. He came
from a company that Vince McMahon fuckingran dude. Say what you will about
the dude. The the CEO ofCEOs ran that fucking company for the better
part of fifty years. Damn nearcalled them out for their shit because I'm
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going to say it. The Bucksare a bunch of fucking children. They
fucking are. I don't give ashit what anybody says. Do I like
them as wrestlers, yeah? DoI like them as people? Me?
Maybe I think that they need togrow up a little. I don't fucking
care what anybody thinks. I seethat they probably need to grow up.
I mean, you lose your moneymaker and and then you mock jog around
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the fucking ring on a show wherethis is what I'm getting to I swear
to god this is this is notlike a full on soapbox episode, but
like, I need to say thisshit because I'm gonna get pissed if I
don't. Punk sees this shit,and it's like it's like a fraternity of
motherfuckers, And there's constant fucking shotsbehind the scenes and then promos, and
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so when he calls them out fortheir shit, they barge into his dressing
room where he was like, Iclearly said leave me alone, like they
just barge in. The shit happens. Everybody gets suspended, the bucks get
rewarded with a fucking Trio's championship withKenny. Punk gets his own show and
a lot of people. Here's thething, though, People are like,
oh, they gave Punk his ownshow. They kind of had to because
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he can't go to Dynamite. Sowhen he gets his own show, then
people that want to work with him, these same cry babies bitch you complain
that they can't go to his show. People that didn't want to work with
him are complaining that they can't goto his show. Make it make sense.
Then he gets called out by fuckingjungle Boy and answers this call.
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Punk answers his call and then getsfired and dragged publicly, and then watching
these people do like mockery on hisfucking show after he's out of work,
do you expect him to just notgo to WWE at this point? Right
like, Punk could have very wellgone Scorched Earth. He could have talked
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with Hunter and been like I wantto go Scorched Earth and fuck this competition,
but WWE still does not see awas competition. I say all this
to Circle back to his promo.By ignoring AW all together, it's it's
the bigger slap in the face thanto acknowledge them on your television show.
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That's where I'm at with Punk,Like he may have turned a new leave.
It might be the behavioral contract clause. He may just be like,
I want to get over this andsubmit my legacy that I left behind ten
years ago. Because let's be honest. Even his work in AEW was fantastic,
his more believable match every time hewas out there. Right, So
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my thing is, you know,AW had a kind of a harder style
A lot. I hear people like, oh, he's not a great wrestler,
like all this other he's a fantasticwrestler. You have a product where
the product and the end ring shitmoves way quickly. Oh yeah, Punk
is not a high flyer. I'mtired of people, and it's not just
with him, it's with anybody.I'm sick and tired of people saying like
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this wrestler sucks because he doesn't doflip flop and fly all over the place.
M Punk's a great physical storyteller exactly. And that's the other thing too,
is like, look at his gimmicklook at his character, and I
mean, I know it's easy tosay, well, it's not a gimmick
core character, that's just Phil Brooks, but which is true. But I'm
just pointing out, like, lookat what you are presented with. It
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doesn't make sense for him to doflips and everything. That's not to say
that he physically can't. It's justsaid, why would you, dude,
will Ospray and all of them.You know, I'm even a kinny fan,
you know, Like right, Punk'sPunk's best five opponents and matches in
aw where Darby Allen, Samoa,Joe Maxwell, Jacob Freeman, Dax the
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match he hab A, Dax,Yes, and Hoops. I was about
to say, don't sleep on thefirst match that he had on Rampage with
Hobbs. That was fun. Yeah, that was great. Yeah. I
was watching that on my phone whileI was driving ninety five miles an hour
down Martinville, Saint Martinville, andyou yeah, Yeah. What I'm getting
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at is Punk is about to havesome fucking great goddamn matches with seth rawlins
m. You know that's coming.Oh yeah, and I think he's gonna
get his manium main event. He'sgonna he's gonna get his main event Night
one of a buy one get Toospecial. And that's where I'm also lukewarm,
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not in a shitting on him way. It's just kind of like,
all right, you can say allyou want, like you you changed.
It's been ten years, motherfuckers thatBromo wasn't ten years. No, you
know. So it's like it almostcomes across like and I don't think this
is true, I really don't,but it it's very easy to see it
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like a bitter girlfriend situation that andyou know, the word hypocrite gets tossed
a lot, which, Yeah,I want to I want to really pose
a question to people out there likethat are in on this, or that
are aware of everything we've talked aboutand all this other shit. It's like,
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aren't we all in a sense?We are? And that's the thing
too, is it? It cancome across like I'm overly playing Devil's advocate.
Bro. We were just talking abouthow I'm gonna buy a new seampunk
shirt. Yeah, I really wanta hoodie. I want a teach her.
Yeah, like I'm still a fan. I'm not saying fuck this guy.
I'm really not. I'm just likeI feel like, Okay, how
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excited should I get? Should Itaper expectations? Right? It's a touch
and go situation. It's more orless like, Okay, let's see if
he fucks this up up and thenlike because you don't you don't want to
like fully invest and then like belet down. Because that's what we did
with AEW in his run. Wefully invested and we got let down.
Yeah, and you could say thatit's not even his fault. It was
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the company the first time he leftboth sides. Yeah, Like nah,
I just I'm nervous. That's whatit boils down to, is like I
feel kind of nervous. Right,it's yeah, because the last thing about
his his release from AW that Ithat I want to say is that the
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weekend of all In, I knewthat that was gonna happen. Before the
Jack Perry situation, he was supposedto have had to sit down with KHN
and the Bucks at a table physicallyto squash this shit. Right, they
fucking bailed on him last minute.Then, on top of which, and
Tony Kahn is no saying I don'tgive a fuck. The man gives punk
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a phone number or for his rideto the venue. MM, it doesn't
work. There's no booking for thatpunk. And I swear to god,
you can't make this up. It'sfucking true. It was on fucking social
media and people corroborated this punk hadto take one of the fucking Subway underground
trains to the venue on his owndime. Tell me that man is not
professional when he could have easily justsaid fuck you, I'm not showing up.
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Yeah, and that's if he knewhe wanted out. That was his
out exactly, dude like, andthat's that's why I'm saying like that wasn't
punk's fault, right, And alsopeople being like, oh well ww was
like a last no. During hisfirst suspension before he came back, he
was visiting. He was visiting afucking live event. He could have been
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like, hey, bruh, I'mnot going back. That was me thinking
he tested the waters. Because hedid talk with with Paul briefly. I
think he got I think on bothsides there were like that would be great,
but contractually we can't talk about that. Let's meet up down the road.
I really feel like in some fashionhe was trying to get fired because
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if he got terminated, the contractis no one void, then he can
go anywhere if Tony wanted to.Tony KHN could have made him sit out
that two years and had to payhim, but he couldn't compete elsewhere.
Fuck again, so many factors playinto it. Punk is back in WWE,
and which we do need to stressthat that is incredible. Fuck yeah,
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it's incredible. I'm not glossing overthat by any means. Yeah.
Like, and that's the thing too, is like I want to bring that
up because, like I said,I feel like it's come off as negative
nancy for me. But like Isaid, I don't want to get hurt
again. Like it's there's so muchthat goes into this and only time will
tell. I'm hoping that things gowell though, because he got three years
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to find out. Surely in threeyears we're gonna get some good good Yeah,
that's my point though. I thinkI think he knows that this is
his very last shot at anything todo with this business. I think aw
reignited his love for the business.Yes, I will give them that.
I think him getting back in thering and working with the talent he did
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let him know, like Okay,here's who I can hang with and here's
who I can't. And it's notthat he can't hang with him, it's
just like he got injured a coupletimes. From that style, WWE has
a very different style. I thinkhe fits that mold a little bit better.
It's more theatrical. It's like prowrestling is theatrics. Yeah, but
I think WWE is a little safer. I think if aw had been around
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ten years ago, he would havethrived, he would have excelled. There
wouldn't have been any like injuries oranything like that, right, right,
I just there's nothing wrong with that. It's just like shit happens you're forty
five, Like, yeah, dude, I mean I dude, once I
hit forty five, I know I'mgonna be begging for mercy. Dude,
Like I get it. Yeah.I think this is his final run,
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and I think it's gonna be agreat one. I hope that he and
seth Rawlins because I know that's what'scoming. I hope he and seth Rawlins
tear a fucking house down at Mania, because you know they're gonna. I
hope Roman Reigns and Cody Rhodes tearthe fucking house down at night too,
because I'm pretty sure that's coming too. But I'm fucking stoked. I'm stoked
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that he's back on a WWE program, lots of potential. I see him
living up to these expectations. MHe's got a lot of work to do,
he's got a lot of trust tobuild, he's got a lot of
people to prove wrong. And ifthere's anything about seeing Punk that you should
know is like he's he's he's gonnado that. Oh yeah, that's the
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thing, dude. Is Like,regardless of what they can say about the
Phil Brooks person, when Siam Punksays something like you can, you can
pretty much guarantee that it should happen, Like right, right, He's gonna
draw a lot of money. He'sgoing to sell a lot of merch he
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already is doing this, dude.Yeah, Like like to end on that,
Like your point, dude, hehad the most social moment in that
company in WWE's history, which isinsane. Also, the man is number
one this past week because because yourealize aw still has to push his merchandise
out, they gotta get rid ofit. That man is number one in
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both companies for selling merch right nowat the same fucking time. That's fire.
That's awesome, dude. I knowI'm laughing about it because I'm just
like, man, this motherfucker's likelaughing all the way to the bank right
now. Oh yeah. It's justlike, we'll see what happends long term.
I don't think it's gonna be fightsor anything like that. I just
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see more than anything, because Idon't think he's gonna get fired from here,
not unless not unless Kevin Owens hassomething to say about uh. But
no. My point is like howupset will he be? How agitated will
he get? Will he make tweets? Will he make Instagram stories? Do?
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You guys have been on Twitter anda long time. But what I'm
getting at is just the idea oflike, Okay, I know you're not
gonna do any fuck shit, buthow petty we talking? Right? Are
you gonna do the old tweet delete? You know? Right right? That's
where I'm like, Okay, Iwant to see what happens. Here's here's
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my final word on this. ThenI swear this is my final word on
this. Your second final word.No, no, no, the the
final word. Okay, how doI know he's not going to do all
this shit. The inmates don't runthe asylum in WWE. That's true,
not that AEW is not professional,but they could be more professional than they
are right now. And again thatis coming from a diehard I think the
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regime needs help, right, andthere's nothing wrong with I feel like everybody
assumes that you have to pick aside, you have to pick a team.
It's like, no, I don'tdo I admit that I like the
AW product more I do. WWE'sproduct is so cookie cutter that I don't
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have to pay attention. Like Ibarely paid attention to RAW and I still
know what happened. And guess whatif I missed Raw, which I've missed
a shitload of them. I watchthe pls and there are so many recaps
that I don't need to watch weekto week programming, right Yeah, Because
WWE is a lot of microphone talkingin the ring fuck shit with a few
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matches to piece the stories together.AEW is a fuck shit ton of matches
with a little bit of talking topiece the story together, and the enteringaction
tells the story more than the fuckingsegments do. Again, I like both
products for very different reasons. Ohyeah, or sure, but Punk and
WWE Weirdly shit feels right in theworld again, it's surreal. It still
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hasn't fully clicked yet. I don'tknow because like two of my favorites growing
up, seam Punk and Randy Orton, came out the same night, like
after we were worried about Orton possiblyretiring and Punk being in the position that
he was, and then they threwOur Truth on top of that. Who
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I love Our Truth, you know, like who He's one of those guys
that can do no wrong to me, literal Jimmy dude, I fucking love
it, Like I grew up withthat man. Like I'm twenty seven now,
so I was a kid. Soobviously not going to complain about any
of this. It's just kind oflike, fuck right, what a night,
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No shit not but uh, we'llsee how the promos go here on
out. I think it's almost unfortunatethat they have to ignore aw because I
feel like they allowed him more timeon that first show back with his return
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in Chicago and that promo. Ifeel like that was a promo that actually
said something, whereas here at thispoint, it's his third time saying I'm
back, and so by now it'slike, Okay, I wouldn't call it
rehash. It's just more of likenot much was said really that I didn't
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already hear. Doesn't need to beright. This is a this is a
fucking marathon to say a sprint forsure, that's how WWE works. And
also we can't forget like a lotof those people didn't see those shows,
so to them, this was probablyall news and that's the entire the point
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of it, obviously. And againPunk is just laying groundwork for whatever his
upcoming first storyline back with the company'sgonna be. And again I think that
is seth rawlins. I think it'sthe Royal Rumble getting to WrestleMania. His
words where he he said a wiseman once told him that to get everything
he needed out of this place,he would need to leave and come back.
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That wise man is Roman Reigns isa wise man, Paul Haymon,
So do with that what you will. I still think it's Cody Roads the
story to finish with the Roman.But I do see Rains and Punk colliding
because those are the company's two biggeststars. So I guess we'll see in
due time. Now, that's gotme excited, Like I will say that,
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like there there's a lot of matchesthat I would like to see.
Yeah, I think. I thinkif if brock Lesner and see him,
Punk can have a really great match. I know that he can have a
really fucking big barn burner with Roman, oh for sure, and it would
be a believable match. Like itwould be one of those exceptions to the
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rule of like, oh, RomanReigns is having a title match against somebody.
I actually don't know who's gonna winthis one. Yeah, so it'd
be like Mania with him and Rhodesall over again, because you know,
we we banked on Cody winning andhe didn't. So like again, time's
gonna tell. But I'm excited tosee where that that goes. If it
were up to me, Yeah,I'm putting Rawlins's strap on him. SAME's
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that's what I want to happen.It's safe, it's safe, and also
it just looks right. Yeah,yeah, I was. I was thinking
the same thing. That belt,That belt looks like it would fit him
very well. So all right,guys, we're gonna get out of here.
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