Cult Cinema Saturday: Mallrats w/Stevie from BFYTW (Ep. 294)

Snootchie Bootchies mofos! This week, Richie is joined by his friend Stevie from the BFYTW Podcast to talk about the 1995 Kevin Smith directed Cult Classic, MALLRATS! Chocolate covered pretzels, fashionable males, volkswagons, fortune tellers, and much more reside within this hilarious new episode, so join us for the fun!

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The Supermedia Bros. Podcast is afounding member of the Odd Pods media networks.

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This podcast was one of the firstthings I ever listened to. It's
crazy. It really is, manand like and then the people you meet
who started the same way or yougot relationships through because of stuff like that,
it's freaking neat. I love thatso much, right Like, I
have met the most interesting and coolestpeople doing this stuff. You can attribute
that to Kevin Smith in a lotof ways. One hundred percent. Welcome

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to the Supermedia Bros. Podcast fortwo best friends give comedically informative takes on
movies, music, pro wrestling,and much more. I'm Richie and we're
continuing the time that Devon is actuallytaking off because his job is a soul
sucking leech. And you know,I figured this would be a really great
time to hang out with some otherfriends of mine during the month of September

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and talk about movies that we eitherhaven't talked about before or have been overdue
for a revisit. This week,we're actually doing one that hasn't been covered
before. In fact, I wantto say this is the first Kevin Smith
film that has been covered on ourpodcast. Surprisingly and I wanted to do
this with my buddy Stevie from becausefuck You. That's why. Also part
of our Odd Pods media network,We're gonna talk about Mall Rats today.

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What's going on, dude, dude, I'm so super excited. Like I'm
one of those huge Kevin Smith fans, Like I became a fan of keV
back in ninety four, like whenit started. So it's like when you
said you wanted to do Mall Ratsand I was like, oh my god,
it gives me excuse to watch itagain. We feel like, like
no joke, Like an hour offorty five minutes ago. I just finished

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the last two scenes and I randown here and started turning everything on to
get ready for this thing. I'mlike so excited to talk like Mall Rats
and Kevi with you. Man.Yeah, I watched it like three times
over this week. I watched againthis morning and it's and I guess this
is a really good way to getinto how this movie kind of presents itself
because you can pay attention to it, or you can just like weirdly,

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you can just kind of have iton, you know, just just chilling.
It's one of those kinds of films. And I remember the first time
that I got introduced to anything KevinSmith. It was Mall Rats and Jay
and Silent Bob strike Back. Itwas like around the same time I was
in high school and my dad blindbought me a VHS copy of Jay and

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Silent Bob strike Back. And Ithink it's so funny because there's a line
obviously referencing this in that film wherewhen he gave me the video, he
was like, this looks like somethingyou would like. It looks like a
Bill and Ted kind of movie.And I was like, okay, you
know, you know it. There'sa whole like a third rate teach and
chonger Bill and Ted. I waslike, oh, this is perfect.

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But I watched that. And thenthis this girl that I briefly was seeing
in high school, we had thesame American history class together, and she
was like, dude, you wantto skip class and come watch a movie?
And I was like, yeah,it'd be great, and so we
went and fucking she put Mall Ratson and I loved it. I instantly
loved this movie, so I will, yeah, I will always associate this

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movie with like her. I justbullshitting, like laughing at the most ridiculous
shit. And she's still a greatfriend of mine to this day. So
like I will, I will giveher all the fucking credit of the world
for introducing me properly, you know, along with you know, the vhs
of Jayasna Bob, because like mostpeople, like we discussed before we started

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rolling, was most people kind ofwatch this stuff or find out about Kevin's
movies out of order. At leastback then they were you know, if
you weren't on ground zero like youwere exactly yeah, And it's crazy,
like I didn't find him either.I was actually introduced to him by one
of my friends. So this isninety four, so oh god, I
had to have been like fourteen,maybe thirteen or something like that. And

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at that time I was a hugemovie person. And I'm not talking about
like, oh, all the newmovies that came out. I'm talking to
any freeing from like the nineteen thirtieson. Like I loved old movies,
black and white movies. I love, I love. I don't want to
offend any actors out there in anyway. Well maybe I do fuck them,
but I missed the days of actorsbeing fucking actors like you a true

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performer, like if you had somebodyon screen like they were that person and
they could do it all. Theycould act, they could throw the dialogue,
they could dance, they could perform, they could they could do everything.
And I grew up in that typeof family. My mom was like,
nope, you're watching these fucking moviesand this is how it is.
And it was great and I loveit, and I became a huge cinema

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person from that and through school andI don't know thirteen's middle school. I
think I'm not sure. I can'tremember grades. But I was at my
buddy's house. We had we spentthe night there. He's like, you
gotta watch this movie. I knowyou love movies. It's black and white,
dialogue full. I turned it offafter ten minutes because you have to
watch it. I'm like, okay. He had on VHS. He said

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it just came from can I waslike, oh, okay, cool,
because he was he's a bigger movieguy than I was. He pops it
in clerks Is on. We watchedclerks I die. You know, I'm
like, this is fucking funny asshit. Watch it again. So it's
like two in the morning. Wewatch it again. So I got introduced
to keV right after he did thatstuff, which was great. So I

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was right there at the end.But when I heard moll Retz came out,
I was at the theater for thatone, like one hundred percent.
Man, I got introduced to moviesperiod because my family owned a video store
when I was a kid. I'vetold this story a few times on our
show. But like, I wasjust surrounded by nothing but film and video
games, so I naturally gravitated towardsloving cinema and wanting to talk about it.

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But as far as Clerks goes oddlyenough, I want to say,
like before his stuff post Jay andSilent Bob, Clerks was the last movie
I saw of his when he onlyhad those films out when in the Views
universe, and it was like Jayand Silent Bob, then Mall Rats,
then Dogma, then Chasing Amy,and then Clerks. So I saw that

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ship completely out of fucking order.But then when I found out yeah,
but I found out it was allconnected, I was like, oh,
this makes much more sense. LikeI started noticing the references from each movie
getting dropped, and I remember thefirst time seeing Jay and Silent Bob before
Jay and Silent Bob strike Back wasin fucking Scream three. Yes, because
I was like that, it lookslike that Conny Chunk chick or whatever the

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fuck Jay says. I was like, who the fuck are these guys?
You know? And then whenever Isaw that, I was like, oh
my god, this is even funnier. Now. I worked at a movie
theater when Scream three came out.I was the guy who put the letters
up on the outside signs because nobodywould do it because when knock them off,
they come out, it's like spinningblades at you. I'd be the
one out there doing it. ButI got free movies whenever the hell I

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wanted, Like I would stay overnightand sleep there and take up some unlock
it, you know. Yeah,And it was cool and like we watched
it. We're in the theater watchingit one night, like one two in
the morning. We have our popcornand stuff and other things, and we're
watching the movie and all of asudden, they pop on it. I'm
like, oh my god, it'sfreaking shame. This is awesome. Like

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I mean, at that point,Scream was already like okay, we're goofy
now like it like one and twogood you know three. But Jay Sila
Bob saved that movie for me.This is the only reason I really finished
watching it because they were at thehalfway part and I'm like, this is
awesome, right like and you'd haveto think that, Like I don't know
if they've actually come out and saidit's cannon, but I like to pretend

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that it's cannon. That like thatwhole scene took place during the whole time
they were in the Hollywood backlot andstrike Bag like they just gotta get caught
up in the fun. We'll justdo this Hollywood to while we're here,
you know. It fits perfectly intothat, like we're they would be and
then what's what happens there? AndI think that I think it is you
know what it is. It's cannon, we said. So it's true,

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yeah exactly. So as far asMallrats goes, like, it's such a
great uh. We talk about howKevin Smith does like great dialogue in his
movies, and he's very thoughtful whenit comes to what he is saying.
Most of the dialogue winds up comingback around and wrapping the story in a
really great way, or it hassomething significant to do with the with the

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third act more often than not,you know, the stuff that he drops
in the first you know, actor whatever. When I first watched this,
you know, I was like,Okay, so it's gonna be a
typical like I got dumped by mygirlfriend and I got a winner back.
But there was a lot more toit than that. I thought it was
very natural. This This was literallyhow my friends and I spoke to each
other. You know, it wasa while since I had seen a movie
that felt that relatable in terms ofdialogue, because most everything you can,

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you know, watch, you're like, you know, this is typical movie
dialogue. But this movie felt likeme and my buddy's hanging out at the
fucking arcade, or like, youknow, just going read comics that we're
listening to music together, and justjust typical bullshit. And it's true,
man Like, Like like I said, I worked at the movie theater,
well so did all my friends,and like all of us did, and
we were the ones that were incharge. And that movie theater was touched

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to a mall, so at night, like the malls closed, but the
movie theater still open. Because wedon't let people out, like they gat
off the thing securities there. Oncethe people are gone, security didn't give
a shit. Like we'd be playingHackey Sack and the freaking hallway throughout the
entire mall, just like running aroundand stuff like and that was a cool
thing like back then, man,malls had all that stuff. They had
the arcades, and they had therestaurants. They handled these shopping centers and

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like food and munchy things, coffeeshops like that. That was us,
Like we were the freaking mall rats, man. I mean, that's what
we did, like if we werestill in school. The minute we got
out of school, we'd get homechange go right to the mall. Like
most of us were like, allright, I'm out of school, I'm
at the mall because I'm not awork right And I remember doing the same
ship with my friends in high school, you know. So that's again,

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that's what made this a very relatablemovie in terms of just hanging out at
the fucking mall for a day.And it's hilarious because the two main characters
he has Quentin Brody Bruce, whichBrody Bruce for those of you out there
that don't know that's that's kind ofa reference to the Marvel comic universe,
how everybody has the same initials fortheir first and last name. You know.
That's that was kind of a nicelittle Stanley touch right there, who

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also has a cameo in this movielike a few times, which we'll get
to that later. But if youknow, I don't know, if you
wanted to jump eggs, we're notgoing to talk about it here. In
the latest keV Smith movie, Brodyhas a child and the daughter's name is
actually, uh Banner, so it'sBanner Bruce, and they you know,
for the Bruce Banner Hull reference andstuff later on. It's just a little

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like easterrect thing. He only mentionedit like it's like real quick, like
the last like fifteen minutes of themovie or something. Yeah, it's great,
and I love that. I lovethat he's he's come back around and
he's started to kind of tie hisshit together like with with his other films
exactly. Is cool. It's like, yeah, he does have his own
universe, and he started it withsomething so simple, man, like,

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let's make a fun film, right, And I loved the casting obviously,
Jason Lee this movie for a lotof its quirks, I don't think would
have worked as well. Like itwould have worked for sure, but I
don't think it would have worked aswell had Jason Lee not been in that
role. To be very fair,and the same with Jeremy London. Honestly,
like Jeremy London was so good asts Quinn because he's very earnest in

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his role. Jason Lee with BrodieBruce's character is exactly like that kind of
snarky. You know, he's funloving, but he's that snarky dick.
We all knew back then that hewasn't an asshole, but if you were
his friend, he was a dickto everybody else and it was the funniest
shit ever, you know, especiallylike when he runs into people like fucking

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Ben Affleck's character the manager of theFashionable Man, Like we all knew a
fucking prick like that too. Everybodyhad one of those. But yeah,
like Lee, he's a phenomenal actorand he does portray that character, especially
when you look at his character.Thought the other movies, that one's a
giant difference from all the others,but this one's like he plays that slob,

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slacker, a guy who doesn't reallylike want to do anything, who
mooches off everybody, like yeah,let me get my free little soda and
my little sample coup and stuff.I know, I cracked the funk up.
Like it's like first watching this movie, you know, the first time,
I was like, what the fuckis he? Like, why is
that such a little ass cup?And you know, and a couple of
watches later, I was like,Oh, he's he's just freeloading samples from

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motherfuckers And I was like, that'ssmart, Like filled this up with with
soda no ice. I'm like,oh, that's that's absolutely because like I
do that too. Sometimes it drivesthros. I'm like, can you do
a coke in the lights? Andthey're like, are you sure? I'm
like, it comes out the tapcolden, there's more of it, Yes,
I'm sure. But I love that. I love that about his character.
He portays it wonderfully. London.I think he does a great job,

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especially his frustrated anger in this becausehe has a lot of that in
this movie, and I think hedoes a good job of really portraying that.
Yeah, because his character taz Quinnis he's planning on going on a
trip with his girlfriend, who hewants to propose to in Florida, and
his plans are curtailed because she hasagreed to appear on her dad's game show

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Truth or Date. Who is?He's played by Michael Ruker, who you
know, for those of you outthere that are familiar with him probably are
more familiar with his role as YonDuing Guardians of the Galaxy or his role
in The Walking Dead. However,like I was familiar with him from Henry
Portrait of a Serial Killer, whichI thought was a great contrast being that
guy coming to do this shit.I was like, Okay, that's menacing
as fuck. I loved it somuch. And the comedy of the scene

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where she's like, I can't goand then like they eventually break up,
which you know, kind of kickstarts the plot of the film. The
fact that he he fucking made aweight comment to one of her acquaintances and
the girl wound up having a fuckingheart attack doing laps in the pool on
her seven hundredth lap, And Iwas like, Jesus Christ's like, it's

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something that in any other movie youwouldn't laugh at, but the way it's
written here is fucking hysterical because ofthe way she just calls about and he's
just like gobsmacked at the whole fuckingthing. Like what line his lines is
like she's fucking dead, like awesome, Like yeah, because she had an
aneurysm or something, because yeah,she did, like la because she said

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that he he said to her thatshe had a fat ass or saw dude,
she had a weight problem in highschool. Didn't you know that.
It's like, oh my god,she got triggered and went back. That
story is actually first told in Clerkstoo, like about the girl dying in
a pool, like it's in thatmovie from ninety four, which is another

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tie bag from that. It's crazy, right, like just the little nuances
that you know, you pick upon after seeing all this ship but I
remember that life. She's fucking dead. Like the way he delivered it was
fucking hilarious, you know. He'slike like it's it's simultaneous like guilt shock
and what the fuck at the sametime, right, Yeah, and then

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a little bit of anger in therestill because I have plans you don't know
about. Yeah, exactly. He'sjust like everything is like just falling all
over this and so he goes overto Brody's house, who is having his
own breakup because, like we mentionedearlier, Brodie's this slacker who still lives
with his mom, plays fucking videogames and reads comics all the time.

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And Renee, yeah, Renee,who his girlfriend is played by Shannon Dohrny.
And the way she dumbs him likeit's pretty fucking good, honestly,
Like she's yeah, like she definitelyhas like like being a younger person watching
this, I was like, oh, what a bitch, but being older
and having a lot more life experienceon my fuck. Yeah, man,

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like she ton'tally like had like somany points to make with him. She
articulated it in a fucking letter,a stationary right, like, bitch had
that well thought out, dude,Like, holy shit. And I say
that affectionately because she's a bad bitchfor that, like swear dude, just
giving him the fucking talk. Thewhole time, she's shoving the dresser to

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his basement window to sneak out becausehe lives in the basement and he hasn't
even introduced her to his mom.She doesn't know that she's ever down there
and all this other ship and theway she just throws the letter, hits
him with it pretty much tells himlike, you know, I have nothing
better to do than fuck you,and he just opens up. You're breaking
up with me, just like reallylike not even sad, but just more

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or less like as if you knowwhat I mean, Like why we dont
thing happened, Like we didn't doanything wrong, Like it's you, you
idiot, you have no motivation,and like this is all you want,
Like we just live down here foreverand just play Sega No Ship. He's
look at the score as soon ashe wakes up. She wakes up because
he's sleeping in all day and hescrambling I'm trying to find the right controller

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for that game, because you sawhim grabbing another one at one point,
oh my god, like and itmade me laugh because I immediately just picture
because they didn't show it, likeall of it, but I just pictured,
like you know, tangled wires fromlike four different consoles from the same
TV, just going to his bedside, like he's got his bed scooted up
to the TV just enough to wherethere's no slack from the damn the wide

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of the controller because that's his backin the day of every controller was wired
to your console, so he's justyou only had like five feet to work
with it exactly. He'd be funny. He just picked up like a string
of him and there's like different likeones, and he's showing like no,
no, no, all right,this is Segon one. He just like
on travels it starts playing it.Shit, it's the six button, not
the three buttons. Shit. Ithink I actually had that hockey game too,

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now that I'm thinking about it.I had the one for Nintendo for
sure. The only games are reallyHead for Saga that I can recall because
the only reason I bought a segadwas from Mortal Komis. I wanted blood
instead of sweat and real fatalities.I had Mortal Kombat, a rocky boxing
game, and like, I don'tknow, Sonic something first one. Yeah,
I was gonna say, I thinkI think a lot of us had
the first Sonic game just because that'sI think it was packaged with it,

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right, Yeah, like Mario gamewith the ns is back in the day.
Do they do that now? Ithink they sell consoles with some of
the things like pre downloaded on there, or like it comes with the code
downloaded onto the console because I rememberwhen I bought my Nintendo Switch, it
came with Super Mario Odyssey. Ohcool. Yeah, So like I felt
very old school. I was like, oh my god, I'm going to
pick up my new Nintendo console witha new Mario game attached to because when

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I got my Super Nintendo back inthe day, it came with Super Mario
Worlds. I was like, heroand Nintendo's coming out with something new soon.
What's it gonna be? Really cool? Yeah, I think like second
or third quarter twenty four, Solooking forward to that and that, Hey,
that's a that's another console that thatfucking brody can play on eventually,
so right, yeah, gotta getthat NHL going. Yeah. So like

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this, these two breakups lead toa giant, just tidal wave of fuckery
throughout this movie, including Jay andSign Up Bob themselves, including a guy
that wants to find a sailboat andone of these old picture things where like
you stare at it when you getthe imagery. And I loved Ethan super
Lee being this guy. It wasfucking hilarious, And it's a running gag

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throughout the rest of the movie thateverybody else can see this fucking sailboat except
for him, and he's so pissedabout it that he packed a fucking lunch
and planned to sit there all dayuntil he saw the damn thing. It's
just so funny because that those thingswere freaking huge in the nineties. I
remember seeing those all. We don'thave a ball anymore, we had them
all. It was there, butthey had those all the time, and

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like seeing that and I'm just like, oh my god, I can relate
to that because I had issues fora while trying to see him too.
He's just getting frustrated at that onepoint, just yells at a child that
is the greatest fucking thing ever,because like, at this point he's already
been told by I think like threeor four other people. They're like,
oh, that's a sailboat, andhe's like, you can see it,
you know. He's just really pissedthat he can't. And it's just this

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group of kids that are there tomeet the Easter Bunny for pictures, and
I just I love it so much. He's like, oh, no,
it's a schooner. I love haha, you dumb bastard. That's a
sailboat. Scooner is a sailboat.You know what, that's not an Easter
Bunny over there, that's just aguy in a suit. They're just full

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yelling. I'm just little fucking likenine, You're no. The kids probably
fucking scarred for life. He's nevergonna see the Easter Bundy in the same
again for a multitude of reasons.Well foreshadowing, he's definitely scarred for life
because that's the same kid later onwho's on the escalator. Yeah, that's
what I'm saying, Like, it'sso fucking great too. Yeah, because

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I have like all my notes forthis written down are just bullet point because
it's all like just it's and that'swhat I was gonna get into this movie.
It's just bullet point scenes. It'snot even like, oh this is
plot, like no scenes. Youcould literally write down the Schooner and you
know exactly what the fuck is goingon. You can write down Trish the
Dish and you know what's going on, fashionable Mail, you know what's going

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on. This movie is full ofthat shit. Well it's like you said,
like, that's one of those moviesman, you can just play in
the background and listen. Like I'ma huge gamer. I've been gaming my
entire life, like since I wasa child, like NonStop and keep Smith's
movies are one of those things likeI'm put on in the background and just
let it go because I know whatthe hell is going on. It's by
listen. I'm like, this isfreaking funny, and ninety percent of its

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dialogue you don't have to really lookto see what's funny. No kind of
nice. Yeah, you hear onething and you're like, oh, that's
it. I bought the Arrow videorerelease of Mall Rats where it got the
restoration treatment, you know from thenegative scans. Yeah, like because like
Kevin oversaw all that shit. Soit was funny seeing the schematic sequences where

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like Jay and Silent Bob are talkingabout how they're going to wreck the stage
because that's kind of the plan thatQuinton Brody come up with us, where
it's like, Okay, well ifwe wreck the stage that the game show
is gonna be on because it's takingplace at the mall. So it's like,
if we wreck the stage, therecan be no game show and then
she can't appear on it. Thenshe's got to leave with me. So
Jay and Silent Bob are constantly comingup with stupid ass plans to destroy the

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stage and it all has to dowith pulling this fucking pin at the top
of this thing. And yeah,but that's what I was getting as like
the Arrow video release comes with thefucking schematics. The schematics. Yeah,
it's a big poster front and backof all of it, and it's you
know, it's the stick figure drawingsand everything. It's so goddamn funny.
You gotta do it because I pulledmy back out doing your Mom last night.

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There's a little stick figure of himlike with his back hurt. He's
just like, pull my back outdoing your Mom last night. Just keeps
the first of all, Yeah,they gotta get rid of the security guard,
right, that's the first thing.And it was like a roll of
quarters on a soccer some ship.He puts the roller quarters and Jay's sock

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and Silent Bob's they're like spinning itreally fast, and oh oh before they
were getting there. Oh yeah,they're getting ready. They're looking at the
schematics and he's putting the quarters inthe sock and some kid came behind like
looking at the what they were doing, and selling Bob went to go smack
him, and the kid ran away. I believe that's the same kid again,
who is also the one on theescalator. That little kid is a

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fucking menace. I'm pretty sure it'sthe same because I was looking at him
like I think this is the samefucking kid the whole time until the escalator
laughed my ass off of it wasbecause he definitely deserves the escalator at that
point, right, Yeah, justlike running with that fucking sock full of
corners, spinning a fast running atlike Laford chooses like top cop security guard

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garden the freaking like stags like rollsjust like wooden toy truck like towards silent
Bob, and he's running in hisfoot glides with it and he's like writing
on it, missus LaForge. Thequarters with the socks is like landing the
security guard's hands. He just goesflying into this wall. And this wall
is like an advertisement for like ahappy there's like this happy woman on there.

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It's summer. She's got a sundressed her. She's like holding her
the right and left of her dressup a little bit, and where his
head lands is like right between herlegs. So it's like he's given her
orl it's so great. I thinkthat's when he swings on the rope too,
because he does it like twice,like because that's a running gag with
Joey Lard Adams because him and killsIf you're right, that's the second time
is that part? Because they weredating during the production of this movie,

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so like that I thought it wasfunny, like he hit his head,
busts through the wall and she's like, ah, what the fuck. And
then like the second one where hegoes swinging like the it's the fly fatass
fly like sequence when he swings andhe does a thing like between her legs
or whatever. She she looks atshe's like, you fuck her and just
like smacks him in the head.It's like right at the top of the

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dome, just like knocks him outthe rest of the way right, and
then everybody kind of staring around.I'm like, what the fuck because like
that, we keep talking about thekid being on the escalator and it's Brody
is getting like just really distracted,Like they're talking to Trish the Dish about
this this experiment she's doing about likedifferent like sex experiences with man or whatever.

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The fuck. Then he keeps gettingdistractor. He's like, that kid
is on the this kid's on theescalator. Like he's just sitting down,
and you know, he talks abouthow like there's escalator accidents or whatever and
how shitty the parents are. Hejust keeps like, look at that kid
is back on the escalator again.And that is a line that I have
used in real life so much.Stupid kids on escalators, man, I'll

(25:37):
tell you so crazy. I wasscared of escalators when I was a child,
Dude. I know a lot ofpeople that are frightened by escalators,
and it's a legitimate fear, honestly, Like there's there's a lot of things
where I know people are like that'sthat's done. You know, that's nothing
to be afraid of. And I'mlike, it absolutely is. Like I
have seen some horrific shit on escalators, so I totally get it. Like
they're same with people that are afraidof elevators, you know, yeah,

(26:00):
yeah, no, it makes sense. I just came back from DC and
apparently they got like some of thelongest escalators like in the US. I
didn't know that, oh, andI had I didn't really know. I
had a vertical issue either until wegot there or on one off them.
And I looked down and I justhad my knee surgery too, so I'm
like, I have my cane andI'm trying to hold myself up and fuck
see my hands went sweaty, claiming. I'm like, I'm gonna fall like
one hundred and eighty feet down thisdamn thing, and my friends behind me

(26:22):
just like trying to hold me up. I was like hold and like the
second time because I was like,crap, we gotta go back through this
thing like one more and I'm likeI can handle this. I get whatever,
I did all this other stuff I'vebeen flying on jets on this,
I'm like whatever, and it happenedagain. I'm like, what the hell.
So I'm like closing my eyes andI'm like counting to ten and I
swort of got I counted to tenlike two hundred times. Oh shit,
dude, why are we still moving? I am still on the escalator.

(26:48):
That kid is still right exactly.It's me pointing at you like that guy
is still as fuck. It's mypersonal hell man. I sorry, god,
it's a elevator. Oh yeah,I've ever seen that show, dude,
I have That show is awesome.I was hooked. I was like,
why did they stop it? I? Like you ever noticed, like
most good shit just doesn't last.It's fucked up, Like they give the

(27:11):
dumbest shit, like as many seasonsas they want to reality show bullshit.
I was like, Oh, who'sdating who? Blah blah blah, who
can sing this song? Let's guesswho it is? No? No,
come on, this is real entertainment, right, God damn it? Oh
sorry, Trisha Dish the fifteen yearold Yes, which which for this time,

(27:33):
Like, you know, if youlike, there's some things that I
will admit, I will admit thereare some things that didn't really age that
great. But I get like withthis one, this this was actually used
as a plot hole later on,like it wasn't just written for bullshit.
You know. So this is somefifteen year old girl trying to get like
science experiments with sex, right,and then like she's already graduated high school

(27:56):
going into college and a thesis andall this other shit or whatever. But
like it winds up, you know, obviously, like you know, spoilers
abound in this episode. Obviously,this is a movie that's over twenty something
years old, So like right,dude was like so fucking like it winds
up coming into play with the fashionablemale manager later on, but yeah,

(28:18):
jishta dish like is very dry,hilarious, like just the delivery is fantastic,
and like this is all tied togetherwith the whole escalator scene. And
then uh Brody uh and ts Quintonget pissed off at the line wrapping around
the comic book shop because they're like, what the fuck, Like, what
does the guy got to do toget some comic books around here? And
it turns out that Stanley is doingan autograph session. Yeah, Brian and

(28:41):
Walter there, and they're the onesthat introduced him to tell him Steve Dave.
Guys. Yeah, and that's andthat's where you know, anybody that
doesn't know, like that they hostthe podcast, tell him Steve Dave.
And that's where that came from,is this line, because they're getting in
an argument with them and he's justlike, yeah, tell him Steve Dave.
And I'm like, that's the funniestfucking name I have ever heard in
my life. I was like,that dude's got two first names. What
the fuck? It's just the samething. I was like, wait a

(29:06):
minute. I was like, thatcan't possibly be his middle name. It's
it's it's it's two first names,and then he's got a middle and last
name. Probably the fuck. It'sso perfect, it really is. It
just knocks you off, just theit just throws you off a little bit.
So you're just like, wait aminute, what's going on right?
And just the way he just backshim. So just a matter of fact,

(29:26):
tell him Steve Day, like,oh my god, this this dude
is like this other guy's fucking hypeman for real. Yes, imagine having
like a bully situation where it's likethe bully has it like he has his
own hype man. You know,everybody goes like yeah, like it's like
the dumb and dumber kick his asssea bass kind of thing like this this

(29:47):
like tell him Steve Dave and kickhis ass sea bass is like one and
the same for me, you know, yes, I get you, man,
I get you. I just wantwrite the Christmas story And I was
thinking of Fickes in the Toady dude. Yeah. It's like, I don't
know why that jumped in my headall times together. Somehow, it's funny.
It's funny, they may ask me, Kevin Smith, everybody knows at

(30:11):
the root of any good relationship,any relationship worth anything, is the only
thing that matters between two people,and I'm talking about television. That's right.
That's why you should listen to Marriedwith Television Man, which is a
podcast by my friends Shannon and Jamie. I call it kaddis about movies and
TV that they have loved for decades. Man. You listen at Married with

(30:33):
tv dot com or anywhere you getyour podcasts. They are proud members of
the Odd Pods media network. Man. Married with Television. There's a lot
of It's not like a lot ofnothing's happening. It's a lot of like
little things that wind up popping backup later on. But you have to
watch it a few times to reallycatch everything. I'm like, oh,
really, holy crappy clarity just hityou at the end of it, right,

(30:56):
Because what happens is Brody is tryingto go after Renee and talk to
her and ship throughout the entirety oftheir visited the mall, and he finds
out that like she's kind of seeingthe fashionable male manager and he finds her
in he winds up getting his assbeat by Ben Affleck in like this little
back corridor in the mall, andlike, dude, I love Ben Affleck

(31:19):
so much, it's hard as hellfor me to pick him being this asshole.
Honestly, he does it so wellthough, like really really well.
And he's the first one that fuckingkey's the framed mall rat too in the
movie, Like he says it there, it's the first time it said,
like yeah, he shouldn't. Healso says like he like he likes to

(31:40):
find girls who are on the reboundwho just broke up, so that way
he can fuck him in an uncomfortableplace. Oh you mean like the back
of a Volkswagen. This is likeit's the best fucking line. And like
when Brody says that you could,it's like it's fucked up. When the
Shannon, the fashionable male dude saysthat she's like, oh, this fucking
piece of shit, and then brohe says that kind of like to cut

(32:01):
the tension a little and all ofsudden, like all right, like get
away from me. But I lovethat that line comes back up in other
places, like from different people atsome point. It's so fucking funny and
it's just little shit like that thatmakes this movie so rewatchable. It's so
quotable, and that's what it istoo. It's it's just all the reoccurring
things and they're they're perfectly placed.Yeah, they're at those tension points,

(32:24):
they're at that point where something's reallyslow. It's like it's always at a
connecting point where it really needs tobe. Yeah. I'll never see an
Easter Buddy in any fucking place orsetting without being like this is for Brody
every fucking time I see one,because what happens is he gets his ass
beat and then he's just kind ofnursing a bloody nose in this candy store
and then they're gathered around him,and jameson Ball was like, what happened?

(32:45):
He tells them that the Easter Bundykicked his ass or whatever the fuck,
and so they said the guy theother mold was a better Easter Bunny,
dude something, go beat the Easterbuddies ass in front of all these
kids. I just love it because, like Simon, Bob's just holding the
Eastern Buddy's arms behind them, theship out of his gut for freaking out

(33:09):
almost every year for Easter. Ichanged my Facebook header to them beating the
ship out of that bunny. It'sso good And I just look because the
kids are all like crying at first, like no, no, and then
they get in and start attacking Jaye'sI'm a Bob. They're smacking them with
you know, they had the biggestblast doing that. Like, I think
it's funny anytime they do movies wherechildren are involved that have to do some

(33:31):
comedic shit like that, Like they'rekicking the adult's ass like that. That
has to be nothing but a goodtime. And just like because you know
those kids are gonna put it,we can kick an adult's ass on camera.
Fuck yeah, he's got to worryabout the ones who think they really
did it for real. They gethome like all right, you think you're
my daddy? Oh no, who'sclosed? All right? Like one kid

(33:54):
watches this movie and like his friend'sdad like grown him for something. He
shows up. He's like this andhis friend's name was Bro's, Like this
is for Brody. Just dig punchesthe dada's shipload. It just doesn't stop,
right Jesus, Oh my god.Yeah, the fucking I love that

(34:15):
scene. I just love this sceneher he's beating the shot of the Easter
Bunny, and then it goes backto ts Is back there, and then
he's told that Shannon unfashionable male dudereally kicked his as or whatever, and
that's where he's like, yeah,he said he wanted doing her an a
and uncomfortable place, and that's whenhe brought it up the back of the
volkswagon. Yeah, because then Ican't remember Jolie's character's name though, but

(34:38):
she's like, yeah, it soundslike him because she knew his reputation already
too. Right, It's like,oh shit, like everybody knew the reputation
is dude, it was like aslime ball. He picks up chicks on
the rebound, does that and dumpssomething. Shit, It's like it's fucked
up. Yeah, it really isfucked up. Like he gets his come
up, and yeah he does.And then we kind of trek our way

(34:59):
over to Vennings getting this whole fuckingshow set up, Like they keep cutting
back to him being a complete dickto his stage hands and like the security
that's around the area, and youknow, by this point, Quentin has
spoken with him and he's just like, you know, I know that you
like, you've slammed your way intomy daughter's panties and all this other shit,

(35:20):
and he's like, we're you know, it's ok. That lying he
says it, and you just getlike chills the way he's saying. Dude,
he freaked me every time I seethat, Like I get uncomfortable when
he's like being then timid, hating. I'm like, all right, dude,
you win the role. Oh absolutely, And that's what I was saying
earlier, where it's just like,fuck this Henry portrait of a serial killer,
fucking Michael Ruker being that stereotypical likeI'm bringing a shotgun on my daughter's

(35:45):
first date kind of dad and it'slike, oh fuck man. But to
counter balance this seriousness, I thinkit's fucking hilarious because Brody had sold the
idea to Quint of giving him theold stink fist and yeah, dude,

(36:06):
oh my god, do you wantto explain what the stink pomb is?
Everybody? Yeah, So basically,if you if you come across somebody that
is not on your list, ifthey you're on your shit list, in
fact, is you just dig inyour own ass, crack your sweaty gross

(36:29):
ass crack and you just cover yourentire hand in it, and you figure
out any kind of way to makehand to hand contact, being a handshake
or like just you know, belike like he does to Spinning, where
he's just like, oh, whatis this class ring? And he's just
like shaking his hand. He's like, wow, your hands are firm and
strong like all this shit. Literally. Meanwhile, meanwhile, he's eating chocolate

(36:50):
covered pretzels, and so he knowsthat Spinning is a fan of pretzels,
and he just looks at and he'sdoing this right in front of Quint,
which Quint is having the hardest timenot gagging and being like oh oh god.
And he's just rubbing all over hishands. He's like, say,
would you like a chocolate covered pretzel? They're a little melty, but they're
still exquisite, and I'm like,holy shit, he's not about to do

(37:10):
this, Oh my god. Andhe just smears that pretzel that have melty.
He just sing the two hands andthen the chocolate smear of it,
and then he grabs it and heslowly puts it into his mouth and he's
licking his fingers in his hand andI'm just crazy he's just like that fucking

(37:30):
fucking close ups that they do onthis too, like they're just so bring
on his mouth, it's so gross. It was perfect call. Doing the
chocolate covered pretzel guy's perfect call.It was it was perfect. And then
he ends up taking the whole bagof pretzels at that time from him,
right yeah, because I thought thatwas kind of a funny, little fucked

(37:51):
up touch Spinning tells him. He'slike, yeah, I've had this entire
thing, so just to have youguys removed from the mall because you're not
about to ruin my my big shotat the TV show, And as soon
as the security guards come and putthem in cuffs, he grabs the bag
of pretzels, like right from I'mlike, oh, what a dick move,
Like you're gonna have him thrown up, but you're gonna take this man's
fucking food. What a dick,And then he just keeps eating with that

(38:14):
hand. Dude. That definitely comesinto play later because at this point Brody
and Quint have to go to orthey don't have to, but they wind
up going to the dirt mall toget which they were getting escorted by the
police's planted pot on him like abig a's like a good like half pound

(38:37):
of or unfunded on him. Yeah, and I was like, oh damn.
But luckily their saviors out to knowwhere here snoogy booge. That's true.
Yeah, Jay and Silent Bob cometo the rescue, and we get
we get a cool little Batman reference. Oh yes, and then and then
after that, oh no, beforethat, you get a zad reference because

(38:59):
he with the vat he's like allshell kneel before his odd or something I
can't remember. Yeah, he batsthe piss out of the one guard yep.
And then and then they take offand yeah, yeah, and then
they do the whole the bat grapplinghook thing like kind of from like the
eighty two or eighty nine version ofBatman where he's like, how much do
you wait? And she says,and then they go up. Then they

(39:21):
don't go up all the way.He's he's like, yeah, I think
it's fine. I think he sayssomething like about them more than a hundred
and twenty five or some shit.I was like, oh, what a
dick, that's cold. Man.Well, maybe you packed on a little
bit, maybe you put too muchrubber on your painting. It maybe got
fifty pounds bat nipples, damn it, clooney shit. Yeah yeah, so

(39:44):
yeah, at definitely they escaped tothe dirt mall because nobody would look for
them at the dirt mall, Iknow. And it's funny because like I
would go to the dirt mall therelooked like there was some cool shit there
because Brody goes. Yeah, becauseBrody goes for like like discounted comic send
you know, like uh, becausea lot of it it's portrayed. It
is kind of like a flea market. But dude, I love drift shopping

(40:05):
at flea markets. Ship that wouldbe right on my alley. But it
was uncool as fuck during that timeperiod of do that shit. It's true,
like we had we had one ofthose things, like one of those
indoor flea markets here. It washuge. It had to be like a
hundred different vendors inside little booze andstuff, eateries and all this stuff and
an outdoor section. And I didn'trealize we had that until like I don't
know, like fifteen years ago.So I'm like, I saw this in

(40:28):
the movie. I'm like, whichwe had one of those and those one
like twenty minutes away the whole time, and they're like, oh crap,
I could have been going there,and I went like one year and then
they tore it the hell down thenext year. I'm like, oh,
fuck, y'all out have been sofuck it's sad. I was mad.
I found like Airsoft toys in there, and like a bunch of things,
but like the comics were huge,and like Brodie gives that one dude,
ships like these aren't even bagging boardedyou savage or some shit. Yeah.

(40:52):
Let he's just like giving ship tothe vendors. They're like, what the
fuck? Come on? Yeah,He's like, what do you say?
Like they know they know me myname here, And I think Quent was
like, that's not something I wouldbrag about, dude, you know,
just something to that effect, Likeyeah, but one funny little easter they
throw in there is that like they'rein an area where there's like used clothing
and then like use comics and shit. And then Quent picks up a black

(41:14):
hat and he puts it on andit's the clerk's logo on the hat and
he takes it off and he turnsaround and sees that it's a clerk's logo
and he looks disgusted that he evenfucking touched it, which I think is
hilarious. Actually, it's so good. It's like, yeah, I call
my own stuff shit that that selfdeprivation that he does. He does it
so well to get the laughs,and I think it definitely comes off here

(41:37):
too, oh for sure. AndChemi Smith is good about that, Like
he's definitely good at poking fun inhimself. And it's all in good fun,
you know, because if you can'tbust your own balls, dude,
you know what I mean? Like, it's like, come on, you
can't. If you can't dish,if you can dish this shit out,
you can't take it or even likemake fun of yourself. I mean,
what's the point. Come on,it's really fun to do it, make

(41:59):
fun of yourself, do it forus, and then record send it to
supermedia brothers. Oh absolutely, yeah, let's get you. But they go
to this this psychic over there,and this whole fucking seat is just it's
hilarious as shit to me. Wouldwould you? Would you care to explain?
What's it going? Is amazing?So, uh, Brody's trying to

(42:22):
get t s and Clarity tried togive him some guidance. He said,
there's a fortune teller here at thisdirt wall. We can go there and
check it out or whatever, andreluctantly Ts like okay, whatever, and
they go in. They sit downand I can't remember her name, met
him something. I can't they hername, but she's a topless fortune teller
and TS knows this after going inthere, and she informs them. She's

(42:45):
starting to talk to him about theprice. It's gonna be like fifty three
dollars and twenty cents or something,and then Brody's just like looks at Ts
and like nutches him. He's like, well, I gotta pay for this
too, so we've moved this again, and they pay for this like that
he didn't even want and shit,and the only reason that fucking Brody really
wants to be there so we cansee some topless lady he doesn't give a

(43:06):
shit about, like TS and likewhat's going on with the red He doesn't
give a fuck. He just wantsto see it. Because the whole time
he's just staring at her chest,not even looking at her right like the
whole time. And then uh,TS is like, all right, you
can just drop the whole act.On's this go ahead. Here's gave you
the money, show him what hewants so we can get the hell out
of here type of thing. Andshe's like, oh good, I can

(43:28):
drop the act. I can performmuch better without the whole act and whatever.
So her accent drops and she's unbuttonsher her top and she opens it
up like the one and you seeher one breast come out, really nice
breast, cool, and you seethe other one. She opens up the
other side and it comes out andit's got two nipples on him, like
right next to each other, verynice breast. Again. I mean I'm

(43:49):
down, Yeah, yeah, holycrapt I mean, I mean I think
I think all of us have seena total recall. I mean, if
it's if it's not a nipple belongingto a third breast itself, she's gotta
gotta put the third nipples. Soyeah, it's all good. But it's
funny because like right away, Brody'slike disgusted. Now he's like trying to
hide his eyes, like trying notto look at her now, like he

(44:13):
was so enticed to see in Brest. And then he sees the third nipple.
He's like, no, I can'tlook anymore. I gotta stop.
I can't. This is disgusting tome. It was just the one eighty
there was amazing, Yeah, andshe felt bad about just taking the money
for the press. He's like,well, I gotta tell you something,
and she starts like explaining about therelationship issues they're having, like actually fortune
tell her stuff and some advice hecould do. And Ts is like enthralled

(44:36):
with it, like oh my god, yes, like thank you, like
all the advice. He's gonna takeit the advice to heart. He gives
her more money as a tip,says thank you so much. Why are
you in this dirt mall? Likeyou should be making a big somewhere else,
blah blah blah. And she's like, well, my power is really
only work if I'm topless and noteverybody is. For the third nipple,
it's yes, like what you havea third nipple? Like he didn't even
see it, like the whole time, And Brody's like, come on,

(44:59):
man, it's like right there right, But I love the gag reveal like
when they leave, yes, holycrap. So yeah, they Tesco for
the money he's all happy, Brody'sdisgusted. They leave or whatever, and
then Brody pops back in and he'slike, do you have any and she
cuts him off, like any extrabody parts and she's like no, but

(45:20):
would you like to check me?And he's about to say something and Ts
grabs him and pulls him out ofthe curtain or whatever, and then she
said I can't remember what she says, but she pulls off the nipple.
It's like like, okay, youguys all hate gummy candies right now,
not talking like my kind of gummycandies, Like you're you know, good
ones with candy and sugar. Yeah, I mean right, you're normal.
People call me like like like thefreaking Harribo gummy bears and shit like yeah,

(45:44):
gummy bears exactly. Her nipple waslike one of those. It was
shaped like a nipple. It lookslike gummy. She kills them off,
pops in her mouth, she's likegives him every time. I was like,
oh, what the fuck. Itwas just like one of those other
like left turns, like nobody sawthat coming, Like nobody saw the fucking
third nipple and then throwing that extraWait a minute, it was faked the

(46:06):
whole time just for this little gayawesome right. It's just another layer of
the comedic genius of this movie tome. So, yeah, this is
so the psychic third nipple lady worksfor Quint. And then when they go
back to the mall, we getthe stan Lee speech and cameo that I

(46:28):
think this movie is even if you'renot a fan of Kevin Smith's films,
I think the Stanley speech has madeits rounds enough on the Internet and over
the course of pop culture history.Like you know this scene where he basically
runs or I'm sorry he doesn't runinto Brody runs into him outside of a
lingerie store, and it leads intothis entire like really heartfelt conversation where stan

(46:54):
Lee is telling him like, yeah, I was in love once too,
and like she got away, andyou know, I pretty much like dove
into writing these characters as a wayto deal with it, and Brody starts
kind of piecing it together where it'slike, oh, so you wrote these
characters like as a way to dealwith the one that got away, pretty

(47:15):
much, and you know, Stanley'slike doctor Doom the I'm wearing a suit
of armor to hide his disfigured body. He was like, that was me
underneath the armor. Incredible hulk.He's like a normal guy woman in a
range of emotions or like rage ofemotions. Like the next minute and it's
this whole fucking spiel and it's reallylike heartfelt and really good. It's a

(47:35):
great speech, it really is.But then you find out, like when
Stan's kind of walking away later,that Quin had put him up to it.
I was like, ohh, Igave him that, you know that
the speech from the love be avulture tonight or some shock. That's awesome.

(47:55):
Hell yeah, it's cool seeing himbecause that was so long a go.
And I forgot how young he waswhen he did Mall rats. Holy
crap, right, I mean hewas so older obviously, but compared to
what he was in like the Marvelmovies and stuff before he's passing, he
was way young. I was like, holy shit, Yeah, this is
like the O G. Stanley cameo. Honestly, yeah, I know they

(48:17):
started around like that's when they started. This cameo started around that time.
You know. It's like it's crazy, and I loved it. It was.
It was very well done and wellplaced. It wasn't like a meaningless
thing, you know, because likethey there's movies that come out where they
put like certain cameos in there andit's it's it doesn't hold any weight.
It's just there to just kind ofshow off, like, hey, look
who I was able to get inmy movie. And it's like, no,

(48:38):
Stanley is a great sport for doingthis. Honestly, yes, and
I mean and obviously the audience wastargeted to his exact same audience. So
it's not even like I'm bringing inlike Nicki Minaj to get like maybe thirty
extra ticket sales or something, becausebecause you know, it's like she has
no reason being this movie, right, Yeah, So it's it's just worked

(49:00):
out perfectly. And stand from allaccounts that I've always heard from everybody is
he's been. He's an amazing person. He's always been like the person who
put a smile on ever his faceand make you laugh type of thing,
and like it shows him. This'slike he seems like he cares, Like
in his lines. I don't know, they always seem like they hit me
extra hard. I don't know ifjust because I was a huge fan from

(49:21):
a child, like all this stuffhe's written or what. But seeing him
in mal Rats, I wasn't expectingthat, yeah the name, they said,
Oh yes, stan Lee's here.They don't show him. You don't
expect to see stan Lee on screenon at this movie. And then all
of a sudden he's there, andit's like, holy shit, it's really
him, right, And I gottabe honest, like, I think it's
a great This is a truly greatexample of the fact that Kevin Smith can

(49:45):
not only write really like comedic stuff, but it's also so talented at writing
heartfelt, serious shit too, becauseeven though it turns out to be a
ruse from one of the characters,the speech that stand gets is honestly really
tear jerking if if you're you know, experiencing a lot of this shit,
because like I know, the firstcouple of times I watched and saw it,

(50:07):
I was like fuck, you know, I was like, this bitch
got me exactly. It's like holyshit, because you think it's like god
damn, and then you find outit's not even real. It's like,
wow, motherfucker, all right,I actually thought it was real shit.
All right. But we go fromthere. We're both Brody and Quint are

(50:29):
kind of revitalized in a sense towin their respective significant others back. So
they get Jay to smoke out twoof the contestants that are going to be
on Truth or Date and then theytake their spots, which this was a
pretty goddamn funny sequence how they're justlike yeah, because Brody punches out,
one of the security guards that showsup in another wood comes and she's like

(50:52):
what happened here? And he's like, yeah, they got really stone and
they beat the show of this guyand they passed out here or something,
and like the way that chick justdrags them off with both hands, she
takes one rist of each person,just drags him away, this full size
dude. Yeah, all it tookwas a fat chronic blood. Oh god.

(51:13):
Yeah, so they got two outof the three because uh yeah,
t s comes by. He's like, well, where's the third guy?
And he's like, third guy?What third guys? What do we used
to do? And then and thenit's Bryant. Yeah, it's Brian oh
Holleran who plays Gil Hicks, who'slater on in Dog he's the newscaster for
the dogmast movie who's also oh mygod, there's so many connections. But

(51:34):
it's it's so funny seeing him therewith the long hair, like the mullet,
and he plays just an absolute fuckinggoober too, Like really like he's
like he was the fucking fashionable maleslike apprentice, like he learned, like
because that's what it seemed like hisanswers during them maybe actually get to the
show. It seemed like like,oh my god, he see taking lessons

(51:57):
from this motherfucker. Yeah, becauseit's them wind up next to each other.
It's like it's Quint, then Brodyand then this fucking guy. And
it's one of those old dating gameshows where she's sitting there and like you
know, there's a wall and there'sthree different suitors and she's asking them all
like different questions and shit, andthis whole sequence is fucking just it's god
tear. It's so fun. It'sso fun because because Ts still has all

(52:22):
the anger and stuff from the breakupand he's mad angry still, but he
still wants her back and he's stillin love with her. Brody just ended
up having sex with his X nottoo long ago. They're in the audience
here in the fashion of mamal guysitting next to each other in the audience
and he's just being him and thenfreaking Gil is just being this cheesy heads

(52:43):
dude, just hyping himself up.Ab how good he is. Have you
ever seen the eighties dating video montageon YouTube by any chance? No,
not the montague. I've probably seenthe actual videos. I'm like, it's
like a it's like a sequence ofall these Uh it's like, uh,
they called it data max, likelike beta max, like the format,
but they called it data Max andit was all these guys that would like

(53:04):
send videos in and like these videoswould get put out locally to different people,
and it was all of them givinglike a dating profile on camera.
And shit, that's what this fuckingreminded me of. If you haven't seen
it, it's on YouTube. It'sthe funniest goddamn shit ever. Like I'm
writing it down. Hold on,Yeah, all you gotta do is just
YouTube eighties dating montage, and it'sone of the first things that pops up.

(53:25):
It is the most just on ironicallyfunny shit ever because like they're not
even trying to do this as abit. It's a real fucking thing.
Oh my god, that's amazing.Yeah, and that's what. That's what
Brian His character reminded me of likefucking self hyping, because there's like one
of the videos of this guy beinglike yeah, he's like, I like,

(53:46):
I like to go on a longrides with the top down, and
if you're not afraid to get alittle win in your hair, I'm not
afraid to get a little sand inmy shorts. And I'm like, oh
my god, like what the fuckis this ship? Dude? Work guys
that our ladies go, I wantto okay again right into supermedia brothers with
your answers. Okay, so weneed to know, ladies or gentlemen out

(54:07):
there, would that line work onyou even if it's in a funny,
ironic way, and would you geta date out of it? Right in?
So you know, yeah, youknow, and I'm gonna I'm gonna
throw I'm gonna throw a line outthere, like I think I think this
would be like a good pickup linebecause it's funny but also a little bit
like self deprecating. It shows likeyou have a sense of humor. It's

(54:28):
like, right, hey girl,are you a lottery ticket? And there's
there's like a pause and you justgo because I'm delusional and I think I
have a chance. Yea, Ohmy god, dude, that's actually I
bet you you know what, thatone would work over there, okay,
right in Supermedia Brothers. If youguys think that would work on you,

(54:50):
I swear to god, I hope, like my my fucking inbox be full
of like trolls and like all kindof shit, like amazing. I would
be so fucking happy, die laughinghonestly, Like click go to our go
to our website, go to SupermediaBros. Podcast dot com and click the
little the sidebar where you can leaveus a voicemail you give me leave a
voice response on there. It'd befucking hilarious. Actually, please do it,

(55:10):
Please do it. Fuck I willput that ship on. I will
put that ship on a follow upepisode. Absolutely, Like I got to
get you to come back on ifthey do it, like you kids,
you come back on it, We'llread it. You've gotta do it.
Holy crap, I'm gonna tell everybodyto call Supermedio Bro. So, yeah,

(55:32):
they do this whole fucking thing whereTS winds up kind of like winning
her back over but the whole timethat this is happening, spinning is in
the audience watching this all like gettingfilmed with the TV executive with his fucking
barf bag because they have to carryhim out there because he's sick from like
eating shit hand basically like both.Oh god, man, I mean to

(55:59):
tell even like you eating his ownass like hand. You know, it's
like he was somebody else's right,right, you know that thing, Like
you could probably drink your own urineonce if you're in the desert and stuff,
so you can probably like lick yourown pooh and be okay. But
somebody else's You're fucked like completely.A man's like thrown up into like a
whole ass like bag and he ischugging some pepto bismol. Oh god,

(56:22):
I cannot imagine the flavor combination thatis going on. Like there's there's shit
vomit, pepto, chocolate pretzel,Oh god, like all the things that
happened during the flu. Though JesusChrist, I would say this, poor

(56:44):
bastard. But let's be honest,ye had that ship coming. Oh my
god, he's such a dick throughoutthe whole movie. Yeah he did,
and he's so good at it.And he drugs on somebody gets somebody arresting
and shit like, and he's yeah, he plays the villain the antagonists,
so well, he really fucking doesman. And so like there's another like
subplot that wraps up here where theywind up getting a video from Trish the

(57:06):
Dish because it winds up that sheactually has slept with the Fashionable Mail guy,
and the plot point is that,like she films all this stuff with
consent. So they figure out away to fuck this guy over is to
play this video on the video wallson either side of the stage and like,
you know, be like that girlwas underage, and which they do
and he gets arrested. But likethe whole thing with Silent Bob doing the

(57:30):
duties of putting this into the fuckingVCR that's attached to the trusting system that's
up at the top, is thatthroughout the whole movie, they've been showing
him trying to do the fucking likeforce, like the Jedi mind force on
a cigarette, Yeah, trying tomove a wigglet or something. Yeah,
Because according to Jay, he's likehe's like Fatty over here watch Jedi and
Empire over the weekend. He's beentrying to do the Jedi mind trick ever

(57:51):
since. Yes, oh, comeon, we've all done it. I
know for a factory. I know, I fucking did it. Oh,
I do it every now and thenI'm like, come on, just fucking
do It's just just a fucking justan, just move an inche please tell
me you're real. And I loveit so hard because and Silent Bob's mind

(58:13):
it works because he's hanging upside downand he's trying to catch the videotape that
Jay drops to him, and hemisses it and it gets caught up in
the trussing system just out of hisreach. So he tries to fucking like
mine, trick it and force itinto his and it was grasps. However,
Ethan soup Ley is still pissed offat not seeing this fucking schooner or

(58:34):
sailboat, so he goes over andhe just starts kind of kicking and shaking
the trussing system and it shakes theVHS tape loose and into Silent Bob's grasp
and he's like, holy should haveworked, you know, like he just
he doesn't have to say it,but you can see the look exactly,
because at this point Brody has kindof taken over the mic quint and his

(58:58):
girlfriend have made up, and he'skind of doing the same thing with Renee
in the crowd, and this isbefore he's you know, exposing fucking fashionable
male and he finally puts the videoin and the security guards wound up arresting
him, and then the TV executivescome along with with zn it was vinning

(59:19):
in toe still kind of puky,and they're just they're trashing the entire dating
show where they're just like this wasboring and fucking like everything that you could
think of that was disparaging to saythat this man, they fucking said it
to him as professionally as they could, but they wound up praising Brody because
he was the most entertaining part ofthe show and saved it and everything.
Yeah, So like the movie kindof raps in a way where like,

(59:42):
you know, we could what Ilike to call the fast Times at Ridgemont
High Ending where they just kind oflike you know, pop up like such
and such does this such and shuchdoes that and all this shit, and
I love it because they wound upgiving fucking Brody the tonight's show gig.
Right, he's got the suit onand everything. Yeah, and he still
lives with his mom even though hedoes that. And yeah, and I
loved that that Quint and his girlwound up getting married at Universal Studios because

(01:00:07):
they were talking, Oh, you'regonna propose to her and he's like,
well, when were you gonna doit? It's like when Joss pops out
of the water. It was sofucking great, but they but they get
married. When Johns pops out ofthe water, it's freaking owes you to
see it come out, and it'slike, yeahs and it's all like by
this point too, what's funny isit's that all shitty and old looking and
everything. It's just like that sameJaws mechanical shark has Yeah that's been retired

(01:00:31):
for a few decades. Yeah,it was because it had the same problems
that it had like during the movieshoot itself, which I think it was
fucking hilarious, but it just won'twork. But fucking I love Willam.
It just shows like William just standingthere, just his face and it says
he finally did see the sailboat andhe's like really, yeah, it just
looks like yeah, it's so awesome. It's it's it's like, okay,

(01:00:55):
good, he got he got hegot it. At the end, it
was so wonderful, right, Butit's about that fucking that that schooner magic
guy keV actually talked about it becauseyou can do this now. Back then
it was kind of hard to pauseit and see what it was digital.
You can do it now. Itwasn't a sailboat. It was something.
It was like a couple of peopleor something, or a face or a
clown. It was something weird.And they actually called him out during a

(01:01:19):
Q and A and he's like,yeah, you're right. I didn't want
to say anything. He didn't thinkanybody would ever notice, right. And
that's what's funny is that Arrow videorelease also comes with that same like yeah,
it comes with that same thing,and it's it's Jay and Silent Bob
like together, Like if you lookat it hard enough, it's them like
standing next to each other. Ohthat's so cool. Yeah, it's really

(01:01:39):
fucking awesome and I love it.Uh. This movie also it ends with
with Susanne, a song by Weezerand ironically the monkey whose name is Suzanne,
which pops back up and Jan SilentBob strike Back. I think it's
funny. They're like, oh,it's for Ja Sona, Bob and Susanne.
Well that's a different story altogether,and we don't get that story for

(01:02:00):
two more, two or three moremovies from from this. So you're waiting,
like, what the hell does thismean? Like what's gonna end?
I mean, that movie is justBall's nuts. So yeah, it's it's
it's out there. It's definitely funthough. Yeah, but it's as far
as Mall Rats as a whole isconcerned. Like that. Man, this
movie is just it's it's a cultclassic. It was not well received when

(01:02:22):
it first came out, which isa fucking atrocity in my opinion, which
I get. Like even Kevin Smithhas said it himself that like one of
his line producers on the film keptup that kind of positivity where it was
just like, you know, it'snot a bad movie, it's just we're
a little early to the punch.Because this kind of movie, I think
if it came out today, wouldhave done huge numbers, Like for Kevin's
standards, would have done huge numbers, right, Yeah, yeah, he

(01:02:45):
was definitely a forward thinker coming tothis. I mean I I love that
type of shit, so like,I mean, he has his niche audience,
so like right away he's gonna graba few. But yeah, if
he waited like decade, maybe likefifteen years, and then released it,
I think it would have done aton better because I hear the same thing,
like people get got introduced to MallRats because it was on reruns on

(01:03:06):
TV. It wasn't because of it'svery few because it was Clerk's first people
usually getting to Mall Rats because DogmaDogma and James on the Bob are the
two big ones that bring people intothe rest of the ESK universe. It's
crazy, yeah, and I feellike a prime example of that. You
know. My story of first seeingthis movie was on DVD just at random,

(01:03:28):
you know, because I didn't knowit existing until then. I was
like, what the fuck is this? And one of the best things I've
ever seen, and it's still agreat watch to this day, it still
holds up. I was just gonnasay that, Like, like I said,
we both just watched it recently,and I'm like I was entertaining the
whole I mean, I know allthe fucking I'm a huge cust Smith movie
fan, so I know all thelines of shit and that, and I'm
still entertained, Like I was sittingthere just with both my cats just watching

(01:03:50):
this, like this movie's fucking reallygood still, Like yeah, yeah,
they say there's a couple of wordsthey could take out nowadays because it's not
acceptable anymore, but that's about it. Like the tone is good. I
mean, there's good messages and they'rereally like throughout the entire thing, and
the story actually evolves where a lotof stories nowadays don't. It's very true,

(01:04:12):
honestly, and to your point,yeah, I mean I think a
lot of those movies that have likesome certain words and certain lines, they're
just products at the time and obviously, like you know, we didn't know
extremely better than we should have.But it doesn't necessarily detract from the rest
of it. It's not bad enoughto completely detract from how great it is

(01:04:34):
as a movie as a whole.So exactly exactly, man, I would
love to get you to come backon anytime we cover any of Kevin's other
films. Honestly, I feel likethat would kind of lend itself to this
conversation and kind of you know,connect everywhere else. So holy corrapt,
dude, I would be honored too, Like, seriously, you let me

(01:04:55):
know. It gives me excuse usto play the movies more. I mean
seriously, not that I need anexcuse play more of his stuff, but
I don't mind for sure, becauseI definitely want to cover I definitely want
to cover a lot of his stuff. But I know for a fact that
like James Sentibob, strike Back andDogma are on my short list as far
as like how you know, Iwould like to do that sometime next year
at some point. Oh my gosh, yes, or you send me the

(01:05:16):
message, I will be here.Shit. Yeah. Man. Well for
anybody out there that hasn't heard ofStevie's show, because fuck you, that's
why, dude, give everybody thesales pitch on what you guys show is
and what you do on it.Of course, we are a British inspired
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(01:05:41):
There's three of us. Our amazinghost, he's a game show professional,
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b fy tw for all the extrasuper fun content we throw out at you.
Dude, I really appreciate you comingon and hanging out with me.
Man. This has been a fuckingblast. Dude, this has been a
right man. I seriously do appreciateyou having me on. I mean having
me on at all. I was. I was down for having me on
for a Kept Smith movie. Holyshit, I was. I was like,

(01:06:23):
I was telling people, no one'stalking to me on Sunday until I'm
done out here. I was like, nobody bother me. I'm not doing
laundry. I'm not doing anything untilthis is done. This is Kept Smith
time, some Smith Media and someKEP Smith things. I'll be busy,
j We're definitely gonna do this againsometime, man, Oh tells Yeah.
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(01:07:08):
know now that you have the timethat you can, you can. You
could do the laundry and you cantalk. Yeah, I gotta go.
Yeah, I gotta get do Sundaychores too. It's bullshit, man,
God, I know it's fair,but it's it's okay, all right man.
Thank you so much again, muchlove. I really appreciate hey anytime.
You're always welcome back on dude,Thank you so much. This has

(01:07:29):
been cult Cinema Saturday Mall. Rats. Until next time, I've been Ritchie
Shades on. We're off