Cult Cinema Saturday: Silent Night, Deadly Night Pt.2 (Ep. 304)

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Supermedia Bros. Podcast is a foundingmember of the Odd Pods Media Network.

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Welcome to the Supermdia Bros. Podcast, where two best friends give comedically informative
takes on movies, music, prowrestling, and more. I'm Richie.
This week we have a guest that'sreturning to the show once more. The
last time you heard him on thispodcast was our review of the Jean Claude
VANDAMN movie Double Team with Dennis Rodman, So if you enjoyed that episode,

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get fucking ready to enjoy this one. It is a cult cinema Saturday for
Santa Media Bros. This is episodethree hundred and four. We are talking
about Islet Night Deadly Night, Parttwo with my returning friend and guest,
Trevor from the Catching Up on Cinemapodcast. What's going on? Dude?
Oh, Richie, thanks for havingme back. It's a great weekend so

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far. I got to watch twoChristmas slasher movies for homework, not something
every student gets to do. Butyeah, thanks, thanks for having me
back. Man. This is goingto be a blast. Oh yeah,
it's always a blast talking literally aboutanything with you. For anybody listening out
there, I was most recently oncatching up on cinema talking about Godzilla minus

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one. So if you haven't heardthat episode, but you've seen the movie
and you would like a review,please go check that one out. That
was one of the most fun timesI've ever had talking about anything, especially
with Trevor, Like he and Ialways have a blast talking about movies of
any sort. It doesn't matter ifit's Godzilla minus one or Garbage Day.

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Shit. Yeah. So, SilentNight, Deadly Night, Part two is
a follow up to the first film, Silent Night, Deadly Night, which
was released in nineteen eighty four thatactually got reviewed on our podcast I think
like three years ago as part ofa cult cinema showdown, and my god,

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like, I actually really enjoy thatfirst one. I got to get
the uncut version on Aero video thatthey did a few years ago, where
they restored some of the uncut footagefrom the director, even though they were
like, yeah, well when weput it back in, it's still gonna
be like kind of shit quality becausethey couldn't find the negatives for it.
But I quite enjoy that movie.As campy as it is in some aspects,

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I thought it was a pretty wellmade slasher like a Christmas slasher,
which I love Christmas horror movies alot. I think it's a genre that
fits really because you don't think initially, like most people when they're like,
oh Christmas, they don't think horrormovie bees. They think, you know,
fucking like Ernest Safes Christmas or HomeAlone or Christmas Vacation or a Christmas

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Story or like literally any of thesemovies, which you should all know out
there. Bob Clark did Christmas Story, but he also did Black Christmas.
That man is a man of duality, and he gave you both the bright
and dark side of Christmas. Butwith this follow up, it's kind of
a clusterfuck, like really, becausethey initially made this movie and they were

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going to just create a bunch offlashback sequences and film Ricky, the younger
brother of Billy, the original antagonistof the first film. They were filming
Ricky just having like incessant rambling aboutthe goings on of the events of the
first film. But they realized,you know, we don't have enough footage,
so they shoehorned thirty minutes from thefirst movie into this movie, and

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they still didn't have enough footage,so they used like ten minutes of credits
for both films to beef up theruntime, which is fucking fascinating because the
movie doesn't really do a bunch.It's probably one of the weirdest sequels I've
ever watched. It's campy as fuck. There's some unintentionally hilarious shit, and

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then when you find out that theyliterally casted the guy who plays Ricky based
on his looks rather than his ability, you kind of knew what they were
going for. Yeah, this iskind of a unique mess of a film.
Silent Night, Deadly Night Park duas it were going into this.
I did watch the first film forthe first time, and what's funny about

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that is that I have seen thesecond film before, like way back in
college, a long time ago.Dear listeners, that's what that means.
I never watched the first film because, as Richie had said, this film
has so much stock footage included init from the first film that I was
always advised to just skip it.Like there's if you're interested in the Garbage

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Day film, just watch the GarbageDay film and skip the first one because
you already it's a it's a dualpackage anyway, in a more compact form.
I would actually disagree with that nowthat I've seen both of them,
though, because like you, likeyou said, Richie, I actually thought
the first one was quite good byeby like older like classic slasher movie standards,

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like low budget ultra low budget slashermovie standards. It's actually a decent
movie. Like funny enough. Mybiggest criticism for it does have to do
with pacing, which actually is kindof evened out a little bit in the
second movie, because they condense alot a lot of the I don't know,

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drag ear sequences that are apparent inthe first film. But yeah,
the first one has like an actuallike psychological through line to it that actually
makes some sense. The kills aredecent. It's it's shot well enough,
mostly flat production designs pretty that's whereit looks pretty cheap. But there's some
fun like community performer performances in there. It's a decent little slasher movie.

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This one, though, arrived atmy doorstep via the you know the garbage
Dave meme way back when and funnyenough, Richie, do have do I
have a little second to tell alittle story about this movie, by all
means, please do that. Okay, it's not a particularly interesting story.
I probably should have prefaced that Isaid, I gotcha, but so way

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back when, and in the earlydays of the Internet, dear listeners,
if you happen to be on theyounger side, this was the pre YouTube
era. This was when websites hadlike QuickTime files and such embedded in them.
There was a website that I usedto frequent called badmovies dot org that
hosted a lot of reviews of youknow, schlock films and whatnot. And

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there was mostly text reviews. Itwas like blocks and blocks of texts.
Whoever was writing these, my god, they had they had no life.
These were a lengthy, beefy,beefy girthy reviews, if you will.
They had an entry for Silent Night, Deadly Night Part two. And remember
this is in like the mid twothousands, and every single review had a

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timeline list of bullet points, verysimilar to the Joe Bob Briggs monster vision
on TNT where he would list offlike all the thing you will see X
number of decapitations and X number ofpeople being runned over and such and such.
You know, they had like atimeline rundown of all the fucked up
shit you were going to see inthe movie, Ritchie is covering his mouth

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as he's laughing. Good memories.Yeah, absolutely, but it's also a
dead on impression. I love peoplerun over and people run over run over,
which we'll get to the scene ifpeople get run over this movie.
So that's why I came to mindgo on with bar feel prouceed anyway.

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But every review on this website,on badmovies dot org had a quick time
file at the bottom of the page, and they had exactly one clip from
every movie that was usually the dumbestshit you would see in the movie or
the most goofy non sequitor that youcould pull from that movie, and wouldn't
you know it, garbage Day wasthe clip. And remember this was pre

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YouTube, this was pre memes,essentially like Internet memes as we know them
today. And I had access tothat file and that clip for most of
my high school career, but Ihad nowhere to put it. I could
have I could have been the guyRitchie. I could have been the catalyst
for the meme. I could haveput that, I could have birthed that
into the Internet, but I didn't. Isn't wild to like look back and

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even if you have something that you'relike, I don't think this is it
is what it is, and thenyeah, it's funny to me. There's
no way other people would think thisis funny, right, And then you
find out other people think it's funny. You're kind of sitting there like maybe
I'm maybe I'm funny after all.Well, that's what the Internet gives us
these days. I mean, hencethis podcast where we're talking about schlock movies

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from the eighties for hours at atime. But yeah, same, funny
enough to conclude the story. Actually, I did have a friend who also
could have birthed the It's over ninethousand meme because he and I were playing
with that clip on his Apple computerin like early high school days and we

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were reversing it. We were speedingit up. We're doing everything in the
world with it. That King Coldand Freezer talking to trunks the earth whatever
form my son like, we're justtaking whatever stupid clips from the dub of
Dragon Ball Z and speeding them upand reversing them. And had we had
YouTube at the time, we couldhave been the guy. We could have

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invented those memes. We invented postits to be able to quote Worldme and
Michelle's High School Union, which Istill think is a fun movie to this
day. We post its, it'sfantastic. But yeah, to get us
back on track if we ever were, as Richie had said that the edit
for this film is a fascinating mess. I don't know about you, but

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I have I'm I'm a bit ofa I'm a bit of an editor myself,
and I really enjoy watching re editsof films. I enjoy watching how
powerful editing is a contribution to anactual film. So it's really fascinating to
see how they how they found waysto stitch in the older material with the

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new, and some of it isit's creative, but it is utterly laughable,
Ritchie, and I really hope weget into the specifics of it,
because I have some like all boldtext in my notes here, just like
laughing and laughing about some of thestupid shit they pull on the edit of
this movie. Oh absolutely. Ineed to preface the continuation of this conversation

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by stating I watched this movie ontwov same here. Okay, okay,
good, so this is gonna makeme feel even better. All right,
So getting into some of the editsand some of the dialogue and all this
other shit. As we've said itbefore, both of us really enjoys Silent
and Deadly Night, the first one. It is a great slasher film for
what it was at the time thatit came out. However, we open

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in what is a psych word?I'm assuming to be because they never really
specify if it's a psych word orif it's a section of a jail that
Ricky is in because he's in therefor at this moment unbeknownst reasons. But
by the look of it, andwhen he gets into the story, it's
like, oh, he's the he'sthe little fugly potato baby from the first

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movie in the passenger seat of thecar. I have no problems saying that,
Like that poor infant had a misterpotato headhead. It was pretty bad.
To quote Cotton Hill from King ofthe Hill. Everybody hated that baby.
Dude. It's bad. Like itcuts in and it makes it actually

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really great usage of the very frontend of the original Silent Night in a
movie theater scene later which we'll getsue, But when Ricky is telling his
story to this doctor, he's like, just call me doc, the orderly
brings in like the tape recorder tosit down and all this other shit,

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and then the doc's like, allright, you can leave, and you
know, he kind of he kindof gives that I'm watching you eyes to
Ricky. Dude, dude, hegives him the decambe mutombo. He goes,
dude, he fucking really does whatever. Ricky starts kind of getting in
the doc's face, like right off. The bat ortally comes back and he's
like, I told you to getout, and then he looks at Ricky

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and he just kind of points inthe wiggles his handbag and like, what
the fuck was that? Normally henormally you give the uh kind of like
you didn't say the magic word fingerto somebody. But he like it's like
he's pointing at him, and thenhe's like back and forthing, like what
the fuck are you doing? Thedirector was on smoke break. I'm pretty

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fucking sure, yeah, but Ilove the delivery from Ricky on every line
he has in this monologue that hegives. It's just so funny. He
talks with his eyebrows a lot too. His eyebrows like do a lot of
acting. Yeah, it's fucking greatman. He's got two people's eyebrows,
like just built in completely, thetwo caterpillars on crack, just wriggling on

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his face. Yeah. I justkind of want to call him the Rick
Dwayne, the Rick Johnson, likejust like there you smell with the Rick.
Oh dude, it's a bunch ofbullshit, and we smell it like
very much. So he starts gettingand he's like, well, you know
who kids, your parents, Ricky, And he's like you really want to

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know? Do you want to know? And it's like we already know.
Motherfucker just come out and he's likeit was Santa Claus. It's like,
okay, so we're supposed to believe, you know, we're supposed to suspend
our disbelieve that this this guy isrecalling actual footage events from the first film.
He's like, I knew I wasthere. It's like, fucker,

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you were one. You do notremember fuck all about what happened. You
only know what your brother told you. And your brother's fucking dead now,
like he could not have possibly toldyou all this shit while Mother Superior was
beating the fuck out of him inthe in the Orphanage. So we get
our first bit of first movie flashbackwhere the parents are in the car after

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visit the grandfather and they get stoppedby a broken down vehicle with a Santa
Claus in the middle of the road, which in the first movie, this
Santa Claus has just committed armed robberyand murdered a guy at a convenience store,
which that footage actually gets used lateron while they're in the movie theater
in a very triggering scene for Ricky. Anyway, we relive that whole part,

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you know of, like his dadgets shot, the mother gets assaulted
and like gets her throat slip,and Ricky is whining in the seat because
he's a baby, and then Billyis across the street hiding from the Santa
Claus. And then we mostly justget flashbacks of Billy's abuse in the child
orphanage and his PTSD when it comesto Christmas in Santa Claus. But the

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way Ricky retells this shit, it'sfucking comedic, Like in what is supposed
to be very tragic becomes comedy.The way he just delivers it was that
bitch mother superior way delivers these lines. It's so campy. Oh yeah,
No, his delivery. His performanceas a whole really is kind of I

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mean, there's a reason Garbage toDay is the meme. It's because of
this guy. Like the movie itselfis largely unremarkable, I mean is it
is pretty can't be fun and ithas a very twisted sense of humor,
but that actually works really well attimes. And also from a production value
standpoint, as cheap as this moviereportedly was and as limited resources they as

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they had to shoot the new footage, there's actually some craftsmanship in here that
you kind of have to keep akeen and eye out for to notice.
But there's some like cinematography here andthere, and some effects work here and
there that shows that there was actuallysome care and some love put into this
thing for as little as they hadto work with. But yeah, when
it comes down to it, though, like really this Eric Freeman, who

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is Richie had said was definitely higherfor his looks, he really does carry
the thing in a lot of ways, Like he's the poster boy for the
movie. And I don't know ifyou ever do this, Richie, I
should I should scratch that and justsay yes, I know you do this,
Richie, I know you enjoy doingthis. But I enjoy looking at
actors in movies like this, thatpeople that don't really have vast filmographies or

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careers, and just kind of liketheorizing, like who they who they look
like to and to me, I'mcurious if you have if you have a
pitch to like run parallel to mine. To me, this gentleman looks like
Glen Guglia from The Wedding Singer.Oh my god, he fucking does.

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Jesus Christ, I've never fucking madethat connection funny enough. He also he
looks like another Adam Sandler villain inthe form of Shooter McGavin. He's Glen
and Shooter McGavin mixed it. Ohno, oh no, that's good.
Green jacket, red jacket, whogives a shit? Obviously for Christmas,

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it's gold jacket, green jacket.For those out there, there's like,
that's not the right line. Ifucking know it's not. It's my show,
fuck you. But then on topof that, he's built like fucking
Lex Luger or some shit dude.That's the first fucking thought I did have.
I was like, this is likethis all American like building shit,
because later on when you see himin his street clothes in the flashbacks,

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he looks he's dressed like a fuckinggreaser man, Like he's got the white
shirt, leather jacket. On therecycle, I'm just waiting for him to
take his little switchblade comb out,you know, Comb's hairbag. I mean,
he's he's Canadian. But it doesn'thelp that when they put him in
an alley, immediately I start thinkingof Roddy Roddy Piper and they live like.
It's like, alhw, he's gonnabeat someone's ass in alley. We

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gotta get some rowdy piper action here, right, it's the Hollywood Backlot brawl.
Was that against gold Dust? Yes? Yeah, classic match? Yeah,
what a match. Broke his fuckinghand, like legit broke his fucking
hand, punching him in the head. Yeah. I mean, if you're
gonna break your hand, at leastyou get a cool story about it after

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that. Yes, yes, butyeah, that guy's built. Eric Freeman
is built like a brick shit houseman, you know, because that's one
thing about the first movie, inthis movie that I did want to point
out, because often in horror movies, we always get the villain just having
superhuman strength because a couple of timesin the first movie, Billy lifts somebody

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up by their neck with Christmas lightsin the back warehouse, and then again
he just picks that woman up withease and plants are on the deer antlers.
But they have shown in both ofthese movies at least some form of
like physique of these characters. Andboth Billy and Ricky are shredded for lack
of a better term, they havemuscle mass. And I was able to

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kind of suspend my disbelief there fora moment because I have seen smaller gentlemen
who look unassuming as fuck exhibit greatfeats of strength, and it's like,
holy shit, my guy, anda coupled with you know, I'm sure
the adrenaline rush of like I'm aboutto kill this guy unstoppable. You know,

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he's either punished or naughty. AndI had to fucking laugh every time,
every like okay, so they bothhave like their own thing, Like
Billy was punish and it was thesame cadence line every time, And that's
that's what I laughed at every time. That's one of the it's just god,

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you hear it, and then youjust hear somebody get obliterated. It's
like punish. My god, he'sbroken in half every fucking but Ricky,
I like, I like that.Actually, the brothers, Billy and Ricky,

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they they have their catchphrases, andas you said, Billy is punish,
but but Ricky's is almost like aBrandy like punish or naughty. They
were naughty. Ship that was naughty, Like dude, it's fantastic. I
love it. Oh shit, butyeah, I'll get off Billy. But

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I just wanted to point out that, yeah, you're you're right. They
do actually do a good job oflike legitimately trying to sell that these two
are like superhumanly strong, because,like you said, like both of them
display superhuman feats of strength by likepicking people up with one fucking hand.
But on top of that, likethe cinematography and the editing also supports it,

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on top of the actors looking thepart, because like when we first
meet adult Billy, eighteen year oldBilly, like there's a there's a camera
shot, that's all. It's almostlike semi pornograph back like tilts up the
length of his body as if toinstill in the viewer that this guy's jacked,
Like like, this is a bigdude. Like the characters in the

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film kind of look at him inthat way, like that's a big dude.
Speaking of people that look like otherpeople. I don't know if you,
I don't know if you would agreewith this, But for some reason,
I kept seeing Tommy Morrison, theboxer Tommy Gunn from Rocky five when
I was whenever I was looking atBilly, I was like, oh shit,
Tommy Gunn lost his marvels. Yeahthat yeah, yeah, there's a

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lot of fucking shit going on withthis dude, like the amount of like,
oh my god, he looks likethis guy. He looks like that
guy, especially with Billy. Ididn't appreciate seeing Billy's hairy asshole. By
the way, the movie felt theneed to show me that. I know
it's the cut version of the movie, but for some reason they had to
keep the hairy asshole. What thefuck is up with that idea. It's

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like, we can't show a kidget hit, but that harry asshole.
That's key to the film, Richie. We have to show this. It
must remain. The producers have ameeting about it. It's key to the
film. The narrative doesn't make sensewithout it. Yeah, that guy was
not It's just some guy from Utah. I know. I was just kind

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of looking through his filmography earlier.He didn't really do a bunch. I
mean, the other guy was probablylike an amateur bodybuilder, like a hobbyist
or something. But the Billy guy, I'm pretty sure he was just some
fella from Utah. And the Wikipediaarticle tells you his girlfriend said, hey,
you should do this, and hewas like, anyway, I guess

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to get us back to where wewere, maybe the flashback at Saint Mary's.
What's particularly funny about that is thatthey actually kind of am I wrong
on this, Like Richie, Ifeel like they spun the narrative a little
bit because the first film makes itslightly like they do point the finger at
Mother Superior and the orphanage as beingsomehow culpable in Billy becoming, you know,

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the killer that he eventually becomes,but they kind of treat it with
kid gloves, like they try tokeep it a little bit vague, like
they're like, oh, it's justone of many contributing factors. But it's
in this film and the sequel wherelike combination of Ricky's narration and the clips
that they very selectively decide to reintegrateinto the film, they really seem like

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they're pointing the finger at the churchand Mother Superior as being like the ultimate
villain in the story, right,And I think that has to do with
going back to how Ricky. Youknow, if you're to believe what he's
telling you, then you have tolook at it through the lens of he

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is only reiterating what he was toldby his brother, so he may have
a very skeme dude vision of whythis was happening. But to be fair,
it is a combination of PTSD andalso what he experienced at this orphanage,
because there was the one sister thatwas just like, we need to

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get him help. There's like theone literal voice of reason amongst the orphanage.
But Mother Superior is very much likeold school I'm going to beat this
into you, as evidenced by herbeating the shit out of the two kids
that were fucking in the storage closet. You know, Like that's another thing,
is like Billy has seen some shithe shouldn't have been seeing as a

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very young child, and you knowhe's got a lot of trauma. That
dude has a lot of fucking trauma. And I think that also plays into
a lot of folks that do havereligious trauma as children growing up, because
that's very prevalent, you know,here in the States at least. I
mean, I know it's elsewhere,but like, I know a ton of

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people that they're sitting there and justlike, fuck, I was raised like
Catholic or what have you, andthey're like, there's a lot of fucking
you know, trauma and scarification ofmy brain from shit that I grew up
seeing. And now I'm like,oh, fuck, So I think that
might be a little subtext in theretoo. But if we're to look at
Ricky's point of view, he's onlygoing off of what Billy has relayed to

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him before he died. Oh it'sso much more fun to take it literally,
as if, like I remember thingsfrom when I was a baby,
I'm telling you them now clear asday. I was there. I was
there. I mean, that's likeverbatim what he says to the doctor and
the doctor's like, you're a baby. I mean he doesn't say that,

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his face kind of tells you.It's thinking. It's like you little potato
headed fuck you were not You werethere physically but not mentally, buddy.
Yeah. And then he's like tellingus about Billy and class and stuff.
It's like, where were you?I don't see you in the classroom.
How do you know this? Dude? In an alternate universe, Billy becomes

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Billy and four C and dumb anddumber alternate universe Silent Knight, Deadly Knight.
I wonder what kind of film thatwould be rich Silent Night, Deadly
Night, Part three, Pretty Bird, uh fuck? But yeah. We
get more flashbacks and then more ofRicky's story unfolding, and you get the

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sense that the doctor has notes onRicky. But as Ricky starts telling more
about what's happening, you see thedoctor literally start to sweat bullets where he's
like, I've never heard this,I don't have notes on this. Where
is this coming from? And youknow, Ricky is obviously cracking more telling
more of what he's done. Weget a lot of the murder sequences where

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you played, you know, becausehe's like, well, Ricky, how
did you know or how did heknow who was naughty and who wasn't.
He's like, well, he didn'thave to look very far, you know,
And there's sequences of him murdering morepeople throughout the neighborhood because Billy's arc
is that he's trying to get backto the orphanage to kill Mother Superior for
all the shit. And we getthe montage of him killing the lady in

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the warehouse and the dude that shewas with, which I have to laugh
at this fucking scene. Okay,first of all, the humor and the
oh fuck moment is not lost uponme. When you first see Billy in
the Santa Claus outfit, and he'sgot that like fuck you look in his
eyes when he's looking in the mirrorbecause he's just being forced, like his

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PTSD is being reforced upon him unbeknownstto these people. But you, as
the audience, see it and you'rejust like, oh fuck, y'all are
so dead. But they're doing thislike after party at the toy store that
he's working at, and the scenewhere the two go off to the back.
I laugh because they're all drunk singingChristmas carols. I don't give a

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fuck how drunk you are. Idon't care how much of a good time
you're having in a group of sixpeople. You notice when two people fucking
go off and missing, they justwere like, oh whatever, didn't notice
this happening. Like the manager andthe cashier still up front. Billy goes
to the back and sees this chickthat he had a thing for just with

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this other dude, so he fuckingmarks them, and then he marks the
manager, and he fucking pulls aHawkeye in a rambo at the same time
and just bow and arrows the shitout of old girl in the front of
the store. Yeah, the killcount is twenty two in this movie,
by the way. Damn yeah.I mean it's including the old murders too,
So Billy and Ricky they put upsome numbers man and quickly too.

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Like the structure of these movies iskind of it's kind of refreshing where it's
like, once he goes into murderdeath kill mode, it's kind of just
murder, death, kill all theway to the end. Like that's an
interesting aspect of the structure where it'slike there is kind of like a halfway
point where they flip a switch andit's like we set up everything. Now
it's just now you just watch,like now you get what you paid for,

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because really the first half of thatfirst movie especially, is just kind
of bullet points explaining the logic ofleading up to Billy's psychotic break, which
happens in the store room when hiswires get all of his wires get crossed,
where like all of his Christmas trauma, of which there is a lot,

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finds a way to converge in likeone explosive moment the twenty five thousand
imported it tie in twinkle lights,one of the balls went out. He
does what Clark Griswold visioned himself doingwhen he was karate shopping the reindeer and
kicking the Santa Claus out of thesleigh. Billy was the physical embodiment of
that outrage. I'd love to seethe actor that plays Ricky trying to recite

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Chevy Chase's epic rant at the endof Christmas Vacation in one Where's the Sun.
I'd love to see his eyebrows actthrough that hole that hole monolog.
I'd like you to get Mother Superiorwith the big ribbon on her head again.

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Alternate cut of the film Christmas Vacationwith Ricky. He's one of the
cousins or something. Like Christmas slaycation. Not to get us completely on a
tangent hair, Ritchie, but almostcalled you Ricky. His name is Richard.

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Yeah, did you have a favoritekill in the first Silent Night Deadly
Night. I mean, it doesn'tmatter which movie we're talking about, because
all the kills in the first movieare in this movie as well. But
yeah, did you have a favoritekill or series of kills? Because I
know which one's my favorite? Okay, I have two of them, really,
Okay, So the obvious funny choiceis when he's like and he fucking

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hits the cop and the cop spillsdown the stairwell like that, that's pretty
fucking funny. But I have twowith an honorable mention, Okay. One
that dude's sledding down the hill gettingfucking decapitated, where he just jumps out.
He's like, oh die and hefucking chops his head off, and
I'm like, that's fucking that isso typical. That is fucking great.
I saw it coming a mile away. Who didn't, Yeah, that's that's

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that's the point though. It's youknow, it's set up in a payoff.
You're like, oh, this isgonna be good, and then it
gives you what you expected and it'sgreat. Yep. And the other kill
that I thought was just fantastic.And I say this because I've seen the
uncut and I own the uncut ofthis. When he lifts the girl up
and he slides her slowly onto thedeer antlers like, it's brutal. It's
slow, it's brutal. It's fuckingmenacing, honestly, knowing that this is

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like being in her she didn't haveshoes on, but her shoes She's getting
slowly shoved into this this fucking deerhead, It's like, God damn,
it's it's fucking brutal, honestly,And I thought it was really you know,
encompassing of like he don't give afuck, like he he don't give

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a fuck. The honorable mention isthat poor bastard Snowman. Yeah what did
he do? He wasn't naughty,rights just he just existed today. Yeah,
it just built him. But theshot of it is great, like
the bloody, dripping aggs and itturns sideways and he just just hit.

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It was like, fuck, isSnowman Christmas hating bastard? It almost reads
like maybe the actor just did itjust for funsies, like like the shot
was just supposed to be the bloodyaxe and then he walks out of frame.
But then the actors Showman. Everybodyhated that snowman. Fuck you,

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Frosty. So my favorite kill youdid mention the the woman being impaled on
the taxidermy uh like deer ahead,that was Juicy Gallon, nothing but her.
Daisy Duke's getting in a wrestling matchwith Sanna and then getting himpaled on
some antlers good times in the samescene. I'm sorry Richie to just keep

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throwing these at you. I shouldhave prepped you beforehand, like so you
could have fun making these comparisons too. But the other man in the room,
I said, was Owen Hart,Michael Sarah, and Billy Zabka all
in one, mostly a really skinnyOwen Hart with some Michael Sarah in the
face. I just picture Michael fromThis Is the End. I think that

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was the name of the movie.This is the End. B He gets
fucking impaled and he's like and hefinally finds his fun. He's like,
oh, it's really embarrassing. Imean, you could definitely dub that audio
over the guy going out the window, but yeah, he gets in a
wrestling match with Owen Hart, askinny Owen Hart, though he tosses him
out the window and he gets impaledon some glass. It's good times.

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Yeah, I love that one too. I felt bad for the cat though,
because the funny part about that sceneis like this in the flashback to
the first one, where like they'reyou know, about to get it on
if you will. He's like,oh, what's the matter, and she's
like, oh, the cat wantsto come inside, And like, I
laughed for two reasons. One sodid he the guy did he wanted to

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come inside. But it was veryfunny because at first you're like, oh,
she's definitely trying to just like finda nice way of saying I don't
want to do this. But thenshe goes to the front door and it's
like, oh no, the catwas really fucking scratching at the door.
But then she shuts and she's like, oh, well there you are,
blah blah, and then she turnsher off and then so great. And

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that goes back to the editing talk. How like I swear like editing is
such a great art because editing isresponsible for comedic moments. It is responsible
for comedic timing in movies, andand it's going to determine whether or not
we find something legitimately hilarious or unintentionallyhilarious. This was both what it really

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was. It's just so sudden.It comes out of nowhere. That's why
it's funny, because because you normallyhear him jingling up to the door the
other time, but then there's justnothing, and she just turned. I

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felt bad for the decor in thishouse, by the way, Oh god,
the tiger paintings and the wood paneling. It took me back to a
different place and time that I wasn'teven alive for if I'm being honest.
Yeah, all that shit got bloodsplatter all over it. But yeah,
Ricky's pretty much telling all this happening. And we finally get to the part

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where Ricky sees Billy die in frontof him because he finally makes it to
the orphanage and he's about to getMother Superior with the acts and then he
gets shot and just dies, andhe's just looking at the kids as he's
dying. He's like, oh,yeah, you're all safe now, and
he just perishes, and they havethe shot of you know, younger Ricky
where he's just and something that justtook me completely out of it was whenever

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he looked at mother superiors like naughty, because in the original movie it's the
kid saying it, but they overdubRicky as an adult saying naughty. And
I'm like, Oh, that fuckingtook me completely out of it, and
I had to laugh just because itwas this real deep, gritty voice coming
out of this child's mouth that wasso fucking funny to me. Yeah,
you just hear a burly man saynaughty. Yeah. This whole sequence here

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actually has those aforementioned examples of hilariousre edits of the first film here,
So to explain what I'm alluding tohere, there's actually a bit before Billy
gets the orphanage where a different SantaClaus approaches the orphanage. It's apparently some
deaf old man or something that accidentallygets shot by the cops. It's,

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you know, a Red Herring scarekind of, but they re edit the
sequence so there's a kid who's likegoing out to greet this this other Santa
Claus who isn't Billy, and theytranspose new footage of the Ricky actor and
looking directly into the camera and sayingBilly. As we keep cutting back and

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forth between the first movie and thesecond movie, so it's like it's telling
the viewer that that kid from thatscene is supposed to be Ricky. The
retcon Ricky into the scene, butthey didn't. They didn't like dub new
audio with a kid's voice or anythingsaying that. For some reason, they
decide to just stitch in actual footageof the adult actor acting as the child,

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and they cut rapidly back and forth. It's really hilarious shit. And
then on top of that that naughtyand that concluded the first film that Richie
had mentioned, they actually they actuallydid shoot new footage for that, because
that's a different kid than in thefirst film. I don't know what happened
there, but apparently they were like, everybody hated that kid. Get him

(39:15):
out of my movie. You can'thave him in here. Fuck that kid,
yeah, fucking kids. Oh fuckyeah. I thought that was a
that was an interesting way of makingthis whole thing. Really, it's interesting.
It's not good, but it isinteresting. It's strange. So we

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do eventually get to where, Okay, I think we're out of fucking flashback
footage. We have to make somethingof the ship we shot for this one,
so you get more flashbacks, obviously, because you need to see what
happened with Ricky since Silent My DailyNight Part one. He has been adopted
into a family finally, and youknow, so for the most part as

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a child, you know, hewas like, oh, I liked my
parents. You know, my fosterparents, I liked them a lot.
There's a shot of him in townwith his mom and he sees two nuns
walking down the street, which istraumatic for him. He's just like,
you know, and all they're doingis just walking into some store. And
you know, the mom obviously isaware that he has traumatic issues, and

(40:24):
her and the dad go back tothe orphanages and they're you know, trying
to explain, like, you know, this is you know, this is
not a problem. But they're justlike, he needs help, and like,
you know what happened here, andyou know, they were trying to
get to the root of it.But you know, you see as he
gets older and into his teen yearsand in to his like early adulthood,
that this has haunted him and followedhim the entire time, there's a few

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murders and a few like relationship thingsthat they kind of allude to, where
it's interesting by the time they getto where he's actually had a girlfriend.
I know I'm jumping ahead, butlike there's a there's just a bunch of
happenings here where first of all,like the trauma with that, you know,
seeing the nuns and shit, andthen more of him like oh I

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got a job, and you knowall this other shit where he tried to
live quote a normal life. Youknow, he talked about how, you
know, his mom didn't have enoughmoney, which this fucking line was so
hilarious. It's like my own ladydidn't have money to put me through college.
So I got a job, likevery much like like disgusted by the

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fact that he had to get ajob in the work where he's like,
so I got a job. It'sthis restaurant uptown, taking out the trash
and washing dishes and shit. It'slike, bro, like, okay,
you know, like it was justso great, just as disgusted by having
to get a fucking a peasant job, and it's okay, buddy, I

(41:50):
worked at a thrift store when Iwas older, than you. But okay,
whatever, man right, But likethey show a scene whenever he's you
know, obviously younger than when hegot the job, and it has to
do which the color red in vehiclesis a thing in this movie, which
I don't know if anybody out therewatching this is picked up on, but

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most of the scenes involving Ricky anddeath involve red cars. So there is
a jeep and he's just in thisfield somewhere, but there is a woman
and a man out on, likeI guess, a date in this field
somewhere with a red jeep, andthe man gets very handsy and a salty

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with her, and he sees allthis. Ricky sees all of this from
a distance, and he's having moreyou know, flashbacks to every action that
this man takes on this woman.It's intercut with the Santa Claus from the
first movie killing his biological mother.So he sees all this and he retaliates

(42:57):
by running this man with his jeep. But the way that it is shot
is fucking hilarious. You know,you've been runned over. So the man
is getting a beer out the backof the truck and he goes round to
the front and then all of asudden, Ricky's just in the driver's seat,
different actor, mind you, andthe guy turns and looks and he's

(43:20):
just like huh. And then there'senough time for this man to have stepped
aside out of the way, butinstead he stands there like Austin Powers and
the fucking steamroller and just waits forhis death. Yeah, exactly. Ricky
starts the fucking engine, and theway they show him getting run over its
hilarious. He starts the engine andhe puts it in drive and then the
man is just full frame shot andhe thinks like falling backwards, and then

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that's all you see. And thenRicky driving the jeep back and forth,
just pancaking this shit out of thisguy into the grass, and he's thanked
by the lady and she walks andyou know she's you know, she doesn't
get killed. But like one ofthe first times we see Ricky as an
adult like exacting murder on somebody forthat which there's another thing I forgot as

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far as like the intercut, likewith another scene I did want to mention,
and it goes back to him sayingnaughty again, which again it's another
uh fucking running gag. Here whenBilly is being disciplined for having seen the
two people having sex in the closet, He's being whipped with a belt,

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and every time she smacks him withthe belt, it cuts to Ricky,
who looks like he's like like,he looks like he's straighting to take a
shit. Really, and every slabyou hear she was naughty and I'm like,
you're not in pain. What thefuck is this? It's like performance
art for this doctor. I'm tellingyou the director was on smoke break probably

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through this entire interview sequence, likethe framing device of the whole movie.
It's just like roll camera, dowhatever the fuck on the subject of the
Red Jeep murder, as you callit. I guess the transition between quote
twelve year old Ricky and quote seventeenyear old Ricky is utterly laughable. I'm

(45:16):
sorry, this quote seventeen year oldRicky looks like fucking forty five year old
Ben Shapiro or some shit with Bondhighlights. It's supposed he says on the
narration five years my dad died,then fade to what the fuck happened to

(45:37):
your face? Yeah, you've seensome shit, I guess I do want
to point out that the director beingon Smoke Break, this man also was
the editor on the Street Fighter movie. Yeah, yes, yes, yes,
yes, apparently most of his creditsare as editor. Funny enough,

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he has, as Richie's, beenon the set of movies that you may
have seen. But yeah, he'slargely an editor of like maybe that says
little something about his directing skill.Yeah, and he does like trailers like
he does editing in producing for movietrailers too, So I mean, like
the guy has credibility, it's justhe chose not to use it here.

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Yeah. As I said, I'mnot sure how to pinpoint to all of
this, but I did mention thatthere is some craft exhibited in the making
of this film. For sure.There's a couple of shots here and there
that are actually very skillfully composed.There's a fucking like split diopter shot in
this movie, which is definitely somethingthat you have to set up for.
You got to. You can't justhaphazardly make that shot, is what I'm

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saying. And even some of thekill effects. There aren't that many complex
ones, but the few that weget are actually like pretty well choreographed and
shot and edited, like for whatit's worth, this is a fucking movie,
like it's a it's like it's decentlyput together, a very very low
budget movie with a lot of eyebrow. Yes, but yeah he uses this

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jeep, kills this motherfucker, let'sher go. And then that's whenever we
kind of get into his more adulthoodship where he's like, yeah, no,
I got a job. And thisis another scene, like a murder
scene, where I don't know whatto make of it other than like it's
fucking hilarious. This is this issomething out of like a very literal,
cheap mob movie or something where thisguy is being interrogated in an alley way

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for owing money to what I wouldassume to be some sort of like mob
or some gang or whatever the fuckI think. He says the name Roco
at one oh perfect knuckles. Youowe money to Rocco. It's his modern
life here. We made the fuckyou up in his alley. If you
don't pay, he owes me somenumber, some money for joy numbers over

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here. Yeah you know what Iyou don't pay on Monday, because you
know what I enjoy doing is hereAnd he just beats the ship out of
him and he beats the fucking yeahand he leaves him and then he goes
a walk away and then Ricky likehas seen all this ship from him taking
out garbage, and he's he's dressedand I say this, I'm prefacing this.

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He's dressed in a white shirt anda white apron and blue jeans like
typical like washboy kind of uniform,and uh the uh the fucking guy,
this fucking guy, This fucking guyjust shoulder checks him on the way and
he's like, what do you want, kid, and he just like puts
his hand on He's like, oh, like you know. The the interrogator
is like thinking he's gonna get thedrop on Ricky. Nah. Next shot

(48:38):
is just him flying into a shipton of boxes. It's like, bro,
did you did you just this guylike to this fucking wall like with
that grade of ease? Holy shit? Okay super Ricky picks him up,
puts him against the wall, takeslike three slugs of the face, and
that's where this one guy is justlike, I, oh, fuck me.

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Conveniently, Ricky decides, you know, I I think I need to
audition for the Penguin and Batman returns. There's a lovely umbrella just chilling in
this trash can. He impales thisguy, and not only does he impale
this guy clean through his stomach,but he opens the fucking umbrella and is

(49:23):
so goddamn funny it takes me outof it. So this umbrella is covered
in blood and it has been justparaschuted open like in the back of this
guy. Not a drop of bloodto be seen on Ricky. That's why
I was funny. He's wearing allwhite, not blood on him, and

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he just gently sets him down.It starts raining on him. Like I
just killed this fucking guy in analley. Nobody caught me, but I'm
gonna leave him in this fucking Alleyways, how did nobody catch this guy?
I'm saying like that was another thingI was like, how did nobody know
that he did this shit? Well, they kind of do it later,

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speaking of filmmaking and stuff, likethey do it later, but I was
expecting them to do it here where. What I was thinking was going to
happen with the rain was that therain starts pouring as soon as Ricky steps
out of the frame, and thenwe start to zoom in on the bloomed
umbrella covered in blood. I wasthinking we were going to like have a
jump in time within the same shot, where like police investigators walk into the

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scene or something, so the rainis meant to imply the passage of time.
But no, it was just likesome impressionistic thing that I guess somebody
was like, Hey, I gotsome rain pipes here. You want to
It's like, this guy's still onthe clock for stunt. Dudey, you
want to get him wet and cold, like okay, Companies like, hey
man, we need some resume I'llget I gotta cut you a deal.
You just put it in this moviefor like just this one scene. I'll

(50:50):
cut you a deal on it.You know when when you spend less money
you get my name in the movie. Hey, you got to grease the
palms of the rain pipe people inthe film Ministry. Yeah, but is
this where the doc is this wherehe starts getting sweaty in the forehead and
he's like, whoa, you killeda lot more people? And I thought,

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Ricky, yeah, pretty much.Yeah, I was gonna say,
because he starts sweating, he's like, oh my god. He's like,
wait till the board here's my opinionon this. I think this is where
the Jenny arc, the Jeni arcstarts in the film, which is actually
the best material in the movie ifyou ask me, honestly, Yes,

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it really is. And I crackedup because he's like, what about Jennifer?
And then, like Ricky, hiswhole facade change and he he doesn't
say it like this, but helooks like, you keep your fucking mouth
shut about Jenny. It's funny becauselike when he lays the picture over down,
it's not a picture that anybody wouldever have of their girlfriend. It

(51:58):
is a fucking headshot of the actress. And it looks like she autographed it.
It's cage photo paybalady, God damnit. Yeah, who who gives?
Who gives their partner Like, here'sa head shot, and like unless

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they're just like, hey, handthis out to somebody, it's like,
no, it's not very personal.It's a black and white headshot of the
actress. Yeah, it's ridiculous.Yeah, and then we get we get
this whole story arc, which theway Ricky tells it is is pretty funny,
Like this line of dialogue was definitelywritten this way. He's like,
yeah, we just we just bumpedinto each other quite literally. He's on
his motorcycle with his leather jack andshit, and you know his girlfriend can't

(52:45):
drive for shit. She just likefucking bumpers his ass, like right off
the bike. And then she getsout and she's like, and I'm like,
no, y'all are about to tradeinsurances. Like there's no fucking way.
Like I've never heard a story wherelike, oh, I crash into
somebody and hey, we're dating.No, the apology comes first, cute

(53:06):
smile comes second order of operations,right, But like Ricky sees her and
he's just like, oh, oh, I love how he's super pissed before
he sees her, like he's aboutto straight murder whoever it is. But
then he sees the legs, ohyeah, and the sexy saxamophone on the
soundtrack, and he's like, oh, never mind, it's like that I

(53:30):
could work with this. He justlooking and he's like not not not good,
naughty, naughty could be good exactly. It just reminds me that eighties
dating montage video that's out on YouTube. He's legs, so he sees and

(54:00):
he's in love with the legs.Yeah, and the lady attached to the
legs. So they're going on likerides on his bike and speaking of wasting
time, speaking of padding five minutesbefore a smoken line of dialogue in the
film and this this bike riding montagetwo three minutes just nothing. Oh yeah,

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like you get that, and uhthen you get the the love scene
between the two which really beautifully shot. I do have to admit the sex
scene between the two of them isshot in like it's very dimlit blue gray,
like kind of hue light lighting inthe room. Not it's like tasteful

(54:42):
nudes. It's not like how thefirst one was where they were just like,
no, we're gonna show titty everyfive seconds, like they're like,
we're gonna show like side side buttside boom. And you get the dialogue
where he's like, that was myfirst time, and I thought it was
Jenny's first time too, and Iwas like, oh, here we fucking
go, and sell piece of shit. Here we fucking go. So leads

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them into the movie theater. Thebest scene of the movie if you ask
me, Yes, God, yes, And I love that he doesn't know
what he's there to see, buthe's so into the movie trailer that's playing,
and you know, she's just like, I like you, Ricky,
like you're different, and it's like, okay, maybe maybe this is what
Ricky needs to turn over a newleave and he kind of you can see

(55:32):
it where he's like, you know, maybe maybe you know, can leave
this shit behind. And it's oneasshole. Every theater has this one asshole
that likes to hoot, holler andthrow popcorn up in the air and catch
it in his mouth and be inthe very back row and be a complete
dig smooch GISs her me. Sohe's being a dick and Ricky's just like,

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Ah, this fucking guy, thisfucking guy, you know. And
she's like, oh, we gotto deal with that for two hours.
And he tries to ignore it first, but that that doesn't work because they
keep on hounding. And not onlydo they keep hounding. Once he goes
like to deal with that, whichthis is a really weird edit to me,
he leaves and then like her,her boyfriend, her ex boyfriend,

(56:15):
who also resembles a Michael Sarah owenHart amalgamation, pops up like a fucking
muppet behind her. She's like,Hey, how's going dude, fuck out
of here, you know, likeshe's pretty much just like yeah, like
you're an ex for a reason,and all this other shit and the kill

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that happens with old boy throwing thepopcorn, like how Ricky handles it is
so comedic, this whole sequence.I apologize, dear listeners, but I
don't I don't know if I havethe ability to convey verbally what all of
this is. You just kind ofhave to see it, because there's something
magical about the really tight smotography,because this is obvious. This is this

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may be shot in the same roomwhere Ricky was being interviewed, just with
just with some different lighting schemes andsome extra chairs put into the room or
something, because this is a verysmall space that we're trying to masquerade as
a quote movie theater. And thenthe trailer narration going on in the background
is basically just rambling on and onand on about the most ultra violet spectacle

(57:24):
you'll ever see. And then there'sa weird meta aspect of it where you
see that they're apparently watching footage fromthe first film. Yeah, because he
that's the whole thing is that hedidn't even know what movie they were there
to see because he's seeing the trailerand what triggers him to go kill the
dude with the popcorn who is toobig for his chair by the way,
and I mean too tall, Likehe looks like his legs are up to

(57:45):
his chin sitting in this fight.He's a bean pole. Yeah, so
it's a harm of me. She'slike, you know, seeing these trailer
which this is what cracks me up. This this dialogue. She points out
like during the trailer that like thetrailers, like, oh, it's ultra
violin all this other shit. She'slike, I can't believe you like this
stuff. It's scary, Like she'stelling them that she can't believe that he

(58:07):
likes this shit. But he's like, well, what movie are we seeing
again? And she's like, oh, what's about a Santa Claus? Like
it's about a killer that dresses upas Santa Claus and murders people. You
literally just said you couldn't believe thathe's into this shit, but this is
the movie you're fucking taking him to. Yeah the fuck, and it like

(58:27):
you point, like we pointed outearlier, and like you said, it
is the scene from the First SilentNight Deadly Night where the Santa Claus that
kills his family has just committed ourrobbery and shoots this guy in the head
behind the counter at a convenience store. Yeah, this is like taking Mick
Foley into the hardware story. Hejust looks around. He's like, oh
man, oh geez, oh man, Oh my god, is that red

(58:50):
me of that fucking one? Uhthat one scene I can't remember what TV
show or a movie is from.Really, Oh man, oh god,
oh god, oh god. Ifucking love that. And it just make
folly in harbor store. Old man, Oh god, old man, Oh
God, old man, look god, tax everywhere. Yes, just spin

(59:15):
the camera around him, freaking Actually, somebody should do a cameo mcfolly doing
that hardist spinning around on his phone. Oh god, hold man surrounded by
sledgehammers and tacks and garbage cans.Oh my, So he fucking sees this

(59:39):
happen and then he just breaks andhe just turns and looks naughty or punish
or both probably at the same time. Nuttish, I can break it down
for you. The timing of thisis just masterful comedy. I don't think
intentional, but somehow it just cametogether beautifully where she she mentions to Ricky

(01:00:00):
that the movie's about Santa Claus whokills people, and then he just like
snaps her and he's like what,Like his voice goes up. He's like,
love it too, and then cutto footage from the first movie of
the of the killer Santa Claus whokilled his parents. I'm holding you up,
asshole, and then he shoots theQuickie mark guy. Dang, he's

(01:00:21):
dead. Cut to Ricky and closeup turning his head to the side,
and then he just vamps out ofthe scene and Jenny doesn't even move like,
she doesn't even watch him step outof the room. He just gets
it. He says punish loud,big as life and twice as ugly,
and she just keeps watching the movie. That's hilarious. I thought he was

(01:00:43):
gonna come back, like they weren'teven gonna show it. He was just
gonna come back with blood on hischest or something and be like, what
I miss that's the artistic side,Yeah, that's how they could have done
it. They didn't do it thisway though, No, absolutely not.
This scene goes on and on andon, but there's just something so incredibly
off kilter about it. It's comedicgold if you ask me, Oh for

(01:01:07):
sure. Like the whole interaction withher ex like like he is like a
muppet, just like draped over theback of a chair. He just pops
up out of nowhere. At onepoint, she's like yelling in his face.
In the theater. Mind you tellthat woman to shut the fuck off.
Somebody throws some shit at her,and she says, I would rather

(01:01:27):
die than go out with you again. And this guy, this fucking guy,
his reaction, he just pauses andlike looks around. He's like,
what are you trying to say?I would rather die than go out with
you again? What what are youtalking about? Oh my god. The

(01:01:52):
way Ricky kills the guy with thepopcorn noo is great because he's talking to
his friend and then they cut backto him, and then then they cut
back like it's the camera panning backand forth. So when the dude with
the popcorn turns to looking at Ricky'sjust right there in his face. And
the way he kills him, theguy's legs are up in the air like

(01:02:16):
shaking and popcorn is flying, andyou don't see it. It's just implied
that Ricky has pinned him to thefloor. He's either a finger blasted him
or he's murdering him. I don'tknow win to the two. But there's
popcorn flying and he's dying. Yeah. So much like Billy and Ricky,

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my wires get crossed off. Andwhen I'm when I'm watching things, I'm
that guy who finds a way toassociate everything with everything. Sometimes it could
be obnoxious, I know, Butanyway, watching this, something about the
flat angle of this leg, ofthese legs kicking up from from below the
chairs in the theater, I thoughtof two things. I thought of one

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that fucking guy getting sucked down thedrain in the nineteen eighty eight Blob movie
Oh wow, yes uh, andtwo totally different, Michelangelo beating the fuck
that foot Clan guy in Ninja TurtlesToo. You want to pickle, Paul,
give you a pickle? He yankshimself down. Fuck, It's like,

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dude, you beat the fuck outof him like twenty seconds ago.
Why are you still going? Tomback? Cold Guts Guilty Pleasure movie of
mine, for sure. I fuckinglove that sequel so much. It's just
fun. It's just it is.God. So after after he Michaelangelo's the

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funk out of this guy and justcomes in sits back, I guess.
And then because we cut from themovie theater, you know, to them,
they're walking like not literally this quickly, but we see him, you
know, in his sweater, youknow, his blue sweater with his white
shirt Unea, the blue sweater,the one, the one that the majority

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of the Internet and people familiar withthis movie know him by, Yes,
his signature sweater if you will,m h. Yeah. So they're they're
walking in broad daylight, beautiful dayneighborhood. Hardly anybody's out and about in
this neighborhood for reasons, but Idigress a bunch of reasons. Yeah,

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but her ex is, you know, when he was away murdering old boy,
her ex in the theater was like, you know, when when you
made that that you know, promiseof life or whatever the fuck however he
worded it. He was like,oh, in the back of my car,
and she's like, oh, Idon't tell anybody about that. I'll
kill you. And it was like, oh, yeah, she definitely fucked
this guy. Regrettably fucked this guy. Ricky doesn't know about this, so

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as they find him, working onhis car. You know, they're confronted,
and this comes out in conversation towardsRicky from this guy where he's just
like, O, yeah, Ifucked your broad in the back seat of
this this car, it's a redcar. Mm hmm. So she gets
shoved down and Ricky, in ablind rage, just grabs this fucking guy,

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pins him to the engine because thehoods popped open, puts a set
of jumper cables into his mouth,onto his tooth, and then cranks the
voltage up and pops this dude's eyesout of his fucking sockets with this good
kill. I loved it. Itwas that was probably the most realistic murder
like in this movie, like asfar as like it's not a superhuman feet

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of strength. He didn't shove anumbrella through a guy, like if you're
electrocuted, like your your eyeballs areyour eyeballs are gonna pop out of your
fucking head. Like that's there's noquestion about that. Yeah, the effect
is rendered really well where they theymade the correct choice of having him wear
sunglasses, so the head sculpt thatthey have they have to show on screen
for several seconds. It looks itdoesn't look as phony because you can't see

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the glassy eyes and stuff, andthen the eyeball popping through through the glass.
Mind you, it's done pretty well. There's some nice score there,
and even the timing of the editis actually very funny. Like, again,
this director is an editor, sohe knows his way around these kind
of things, because we keep intercuttingthe voltage meter and then like a moment

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after the eyeball explodes and we geta reaction shot of Ricky looking pretty happy
with his handiwork, we cut backto the voltage meter like flattened out to
zero, and it's just this verycomedic cut where it's like, yeah,
he's dead, that's what that means. Also, that's not how electricity works.

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He does have his hand on histhroat as he's electrocuting the man.
You don't want to do that ifyou want to kill him, but not
you, Yeah, exactly. Sokills this dude, and then Jennifer is
just like, I hate you regularly. She's so pissed off at him for
defending her honor and killing this guywho was a complete dick and probably would
have fucking killed her straight up.So that breaks him he's pissed off.

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Yeah, for sure. And Itotally just remembered this our conversation about watching
this on two B. Speaking ofedits, there's one part where he's talking
to the doc and he's like,are you gonna tell me about this?
And Ricky's like, yeah, hereit comes, ad break for tide Pods.

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Oh my god, See I luckedout. I think I got all
my ads front loaded, so Ididn't get I didn't get the ad break
there, but that that's kind ofbeautiful. Like I don't know if somebody
manually programmed that, but that's kindof beautiful. Oh my second watch throw
was in the same fucking spot.So whoever is responsible for in starting the
ad breaks, I think they knewexactly what the fuck they were doing.

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That sounds like the case. That'sreally cute. Actually it's funny because he
was like, here it comes,and I'm like, all right, fuck
yeah, oh no, Well,Ricky's gonna give us some advertise tide pods
for kids, the new Taste Sensationtige Pots are your Clothes, Naughty tide

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Pots. Get the Billy actor tocome back with the Santa C costumer knock
a door down with tide pods.He kicks it down like that fucking meme
of Big Bird kicking that door offthe stains with tide pots. Yes,
make it happen. Tied fucking hship. I love Jennifer's uh oh after

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he because he gets so mad.She knows that she's super fucked. She
knows, she knows it's over,breaks the antenna off of his carrne oh.
Literally, So everything was great,We're having a good time, and

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then I've lost it. It's likeChris Farley and Tommy Boy, like I
killed my sail. I love it, Massasae. I killed Jenny. He

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killed the ship out ofwards like herface that she makes when she flops though.
I was like, oh god,uh shit. Then the police show
up, like the sheriff like rollsup and god, what a kill here
too. Whenever. This is howhe acquires the revolver that he's starting to

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walk around the neighborhood with dude,just like you know, freeze, and
he's like, I'm just gonna slipthese cuffs on you nice and easy because
I think it's funny. Because Rickyjust looks at it's like okay, yeah,
dude points the gun like like Idon't like a cinimeter from his nose,
and Ricky just without hesitation or anykind of struggle, just grabs the

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gun and then it immediately cuts tothe dude. Like it's supposed to imply
that Ricky like turned his hand around, turned the CoP's hand around, and
made him like shoot himself in theface. But it happened so quickly that
the gun almost instantly is like turnedaround and just in the dude's face,
his dying, fucking dumb face.It looks as if Don Nods had an

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orgasm. Whoa exactly, that's thefirst thing I thought. I was like,
this Mayberry looking motherfucker just eats shitand dies. And of course Ricky
has the gun. He's just like, aha, his chuckle, his chuckle,
it's the best. There's no expressionon his face, like it's just

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flat, but his mouth is openand maybe his eyebrows raised litlely. He's
like a walking around, yeah exactly, yeah, shooting, just shooting motherfuckers.
And there's another red car that appears, and Ricky shoots at this car

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three or four times, actually finallyhits the radiator, I guess, and
causes the car to lose control.Into a very conveniently placed construction area,
like on the road, where itwas purposely set up as a stunt ramp.
Because I don't know if anybody outthere listening knows this, but typically
if you see a vehicle crash ina movie where the car flips over the

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truck or the whatever happens, there'slike a stunt railing attached to the front
end of the vehicle that acts asa ramp to both get the car off
the ground and provide the target leverageto flip the car at the same time.
Well, we didn't have a carto do that, so let's just
put this pile of construction dirt herewith some caution signs, and we'll just

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hide ramp that way. Well,not only did they hide the ramp very
well, they almost killed the stuntactor playing Ricky in this fucking scene,
because holy shit, that car misseshim by a cunt here. Yeah,
it goes a little further than expected, and it misses him by the centimeter.
As he said, like that wasseconds away from becoming a trauma stunt
scene. Anybody out there that knowstrauma knows the shit I'm talking about.

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The one car flip they use inalmost They shoehorn it into almost every one
of their movies because the guy inthe car almost died making that stunt happen,
So of course they're going to keepfucking using it. I would.
It's like when they set Godzilla onfire in Godzill versus Meca Godzilla. They
put that in at least two moviesbecause he got it. It's like that

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guy almost that guy was literally seton fire when we didn't mean for it
to happen. We should probably putwe should probably use that for all it's
worth, just an honor and tributeof the man who had to suffer through
that. Yeah, I kind ofwant to see The Silent Night, Deadly
Night Part two car flip like everythingand everything. I mean, that'd be
great. But speaking of the sequence, Richie, I don't know if you
got this vib but this kind ofmade me think of American Psycho a little

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bit, like the conclusion of thatmovie where it starts to get louder,
faster, and more unhinged, tothe point where you're starting to question if
what you're seeing is real or not, because remember, all of this is
being imparted to us via narration andstuff, and just the series of murders
that happened here. It's just it'sso much and it gets so over the

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top, to the point that,as you said, we get a fucking
vehicular stunt in a movie that reallydoesn't have the money for it. It
really did make me think of AmericanPsycho just a little bit. And remember
this movie came out way before thatone. But we got to talk about
garbage Day. Yeah, I justwant to point out one more thing about
that fucking car. Yeah, didthat car need to Just did we fucking

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need the car to blow the fuckup the way that it did? Yes,
Yes, it did, because becausethis was nineteen eighty seven and it
was as was the style at thetime. Richie like that, that's how
cars, that's how cars flipped inthe eighties. They needed a big fucking
fireball to a company of them,regardless of how much fuel they had in

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the tank or whatever. By theway, a weird thing to point out,
but both of these movies very muchfeel their time. The first Silent
Night, Doudley Night in particular,is nineteen eighty four in a Bottle.
Just that toy store, Rigie,the best fucking toy store maybe ever.
We got Return of the Jedi Toys. We got fucking he Man, we

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got fucking Gi Joe's, we gotwe got Smurfs in there for some fucking
reason. We got to get thatforeign shit out of my American We got
all the good stuff. Yeah,I loved. I loved how much of
it time capsule that movie wound upbecoming, even the soundtrack. It's a
weird thing, and I don't thinkthere's actually grounds for it, but it

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came. The movie came out inNovember, and I think Terminator. The
Terminator came out in October of thesame year. And the score for Silent
Night, Deadly Night is ureally reminiscentof Brad Fidell's score for The Terminator,
in particular during like the murder sequences, another like time Capsule vibe that it

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has like that not quite nineteen eightyfive time period of like synth music and
stuff. Very well done for whatit was. You know, we keep
talking about how well made Silent Night, Deadly Knight was for what it was
and for how much it was madefor. It's one of my favorite Christmas
slashers, to be quite honest.Getting to the postcar explosion. We come
across the scene capital letters, thescene that everybody knows from this movie.

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Whether or not you know that itis from this movie, everybody knows this
gift. Everybody knows the scene.It's been used countless times over at least
the last decade in YouTube reviews.It's been used in podcast it's been used
as references on fucking talk shows likeeverything that I have ever heard use this.
It works. And there's a reasonit works is because it's so bad.

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It's good. This movie is goodbad, oh for sure. Yeah,
it's just this poor unfortunate soul.Two of them in fact, back
to back. Ricky's just continuing hislittle neighborhood stroll with his gun and shoots
a dude having his morning coffee gettinga paper off the front porch, splatters
his fucking siding of his house withhis own blood. Turns around the dude

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bringing out ten garbage cans to theroad, not not the number ten,
but the material ten ti in garbagecan to the road. Because there's only
two of them, funny enough,puts the first one down, grabs the
second one and the camera. Ithink it's also the edit that makes this
as funny as it is really.Yeah, the camera angles and the timing

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of all of it is just funand stupid. Yeah, it's kind of
a beautiful combination of elements where wehave the tin garbage can being pulled out
of the frame to reveal Ricky standingin the middle of the street. And

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the soundtrack. I mentioned this aboutthe first film. I actually quite like
the soundtrack for the first film.The score second one, I'd say,
is a little chintzy, not nearlyas good, and in fact, the
new score that they composed for it, that they play over the clips from
the first film kind of cheapens thematerial a little bit. But here just
encapsulated in this one series of shots. It works beautifully because it's so melodramatic

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and almost like Looney Tunes esque inhow it plays into the action of every
shot, because there's like a woolike flourish when he twirls the revolver.
Oh my god. And then there'sthe booming percussion where it's like boone drum
boom, like Debo's coming down thestreet or something got on my drink,

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homie, man, she got onmy garbage. Yeah, this close up
with this guy and his fucking eyeberacting. Just Garbage Day, just then
just fud dies put on top ofthat. Like you said, the editing
like another meme that is less wellknown but probably should be well known if

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you're interested in bad filmmaking. Takingthree Liam Neeson hopping over a fence.
Just look up that clip, dearlistener, and you'll see what I'm talking
about. They use like thirteen fuckingcuts to show that fifty five year old
man hop over a fucking fence.It's like one second of footage. It's
like one second of that fucking film. It's like thirteen fucking edits. And

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here when this guy with this Porschefucking shot Garbage Day, the reaction shot
of him getting hit, it's justlike there's like a reversal shot in there,
like there's a mirrored angle. Wecut to Ricky for some reason.
It's like three or four different cutsinside of one second of film to show
this, to show the squib gooff. And this is me talking directly

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out of my ass. I cannotconfirm if this is true. What I
read from that, Richie is Idon't think the squib worked. I think
there was something wrong with the bloodexplosive like maybe the effect didn't sell properly,
so they had to cut around it. And the way that they handled
it was by aggressively smashing five differentangles into one second film. That makes

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total sense. And I have asmall story to tell about like using multiple
angles for one shot. Please.I did it in high school as just
a comedy bit. Like me andtwo of my friends used to film everything.
Like when I say everything, Imean we filmed the dumbest shit.
We filmed our day to day lives, Like we we wanted all this shit

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on camera because like we want tolook back on this, and in turn,
we're like, hey, let's makesome stupid like comedy shorts. And
the way that I had to doit was that I didn't have the ability
or the means to edit post,so everything that we did I had to
just get it in one take,back to back to back. So we

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thought it would be fucking hilarious ifwe just made fun of how most action
movies will show like dude, getshot exploding building, but there's like fifty
different angles of it happening, andit happens like it's not like building explodes,
and then there's like fifty angles showinglike the post of it. It's
like, no, the building isfine, then it blows up, and
then there's a different angle. Thebuilding is fine, and then it blows

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up, just over and over.We went so far as to like show
a thief in the house tripping andfalling on the way out, trying to
leave, like through the garage openingdoor. I filmed my friend tripping at
least ten times, once from thedoorway, once from the attic stairwell,
once from the window looking into thegarage, one from behind him, and

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then in my dumb brain thinking thisis gonna be funny, I would love
to see this actually happen in amovie. One days, while I'm telling
the story, we had an oldrefrigerator in our garage that just was empty,
didn't work, wasn't plugged him.I got in the refrigerator and the
shot is the door opening like frominside, and you just barely peek out

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the crack of the door opening,and he's just bolling the fuck over,
and I'm like, I want somestupid camera angles like that showing anything like
this, Like God. I thinkthat is also why I love editing,
and I think editing lends itself toeither humor or covering up shit, which

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in this case it was both likefunny. But like you said, I
think the same theory about having tocover up the blood squib because in a
movie like this, there should havebeen one and it wasn't there. Yeah,
it's evident that there was an effectthere, but it blows by so
quickly that you only see the faintestevidence of it being there. But sounds

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like you want Alton Brown to startshooting schlock cinema from his test kitchen.
But story time. I also filmeda lot of stupid skits with my friends
back in the day, not quiteas prolific as you, but we would
get together and inevitably a friend ofmine had a lot of airsoft guns,
and so inevitably almost every fucking thingthat we would ever make was gun deal

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Gone Bad with sixteen year old kidswith a mini DV cab And inevitably everybody
who got killed in those movies becausepeople had to die, Richie, they
just got to die. That's whatThat's what teenage boys are all about when
it comes to at filmmaking and theirteens. Anytime somebody had to die,
we would make sure that they werein the bathroom so that the blood pump.

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We had a pesticide sprayer that wemade into like a pneumatic air sprayer
for blood effects for squips. Basically, anytime somebody died in our movies,
they'd be standing in the shower,fully clothed, and then they get shot
with the one gas powered airsoft pistolthat my friend had just to get the

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slide moving, you know, easyclean up. Man, that was the
idea. I mean, it washis mom's house, Like, we don't
want to make a mess for hismom. She was a wonderful lady.
I need to punish those stains.Get tipods. There you go, man,
We tied it together. But yeah, I mean I also had the
problem of not having access to postproduction editing until several years later. So

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as I'm listening to you tell thisstory, I'm remembering, like it's all
flashing before my eyes, Like,oh man, how many takes of my
mood which had to be shot insequence like yours, Like everything had to
just be shot and you just golike it all has to you have to
get right the first time. Basically, how many shots began with either the

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word action or the last half ofthe word action or shit or a hand
covering lens or somebody standing still fora full second before they start moving in
the shots. So it's never notfunny. And then to make mad is
worst Ritchie and I'm done. Iswear this is the end of story time.

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I also used to try to makestop motion films without editing you too.
Yeah, I did it with myfucking Spider Man action. I did
mine with Dragon ball Z and Gundammodels. Gundam models because of the articulation
and stuff, and I would shootthem on the hardwood floor of my childhood
bedroom, so like, I wouldmake no attempt to dress up the background,

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so they were just like bedframes andtoys scattered about in the background to
every shot, constantly moving because Iwas always moving around knocking shit around the
background. So it's just a horriblemess. But every frame, every frame,
things are teleporting around in the background. Yeah, but you had fun
forever, I know you did.I had fun doing that shit. We

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used to make whole action movies withour action figures. I wish I had
the patience to go back to that, because it was fun and I did
get some good results out of it. But to complete the thought again,
I was doing the stop motion withoutediting, so and I didn't. I
didn't. I couldn't take still frameseither, so it had I had to
like tap tap the record button andjust hope it got the right amount of

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frames, not too much, nottoo little. It never was the bread
them out, and so often myhand is just teleporting in and out of
the frame because the time between whenyou hit the button and when you hit
the button again is indeterminate. Youdon't know when the lens is actually running,
like when the when it's actually processingthe footage. So my hand is

(01:25:59):
just like it's like just a boringmess covering the action every fucking frame.
It's like watching Master Hand from Supersassdirected by Master directed by Master Hand.
Anyway, we could get back tothe movie. I'm sorry. If only
Masterhin had directed Silent Night Deadly Nightparts, so we get the garbage day,

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garbage day gunshot, which I shouldpoint out the gunshot effect that I
used earlier was actually pulled from Macand Me whenever Mac is outside the storm
and old boy in the wheelchair actuallygets shot, because there actually is a
version of that movie where they showedthe child being shot. I think My
brother got traumatized by that one whenhe was a little kid. Yeah,

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so I pulled the audio from thatbecause it was fucking hilarious. It's it's
almost as funny as him flying offthe cliff in the wheelchair too. So
we speaking of the wheelchair, Ipromise this is going somewhere. Ricky shoots
garbage and then he's like, youknow, maybe I should uh, maybe
I should moid to this this gentlemanin a Santa Claus outfit and use a

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payphone to call the orphanage, andlike Santa's coming. It's like, oh
fuck. So we get a shotof the dude dead like face pressed against
the glass of the phone booth,which is so goddamn funny, and in
one of the other moments that itseems like it's supposed to be frightening,
it's also funny, which like mostof this movie it is. It's the

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kids that are playing outside of theorphanage and it's like a little toy Santa
Claus robot walking on the pavement,and then Ricky in the Santa suit like
actses it and then you hear themusic like you know, like get all
like warbled and shit and then theSanta Claus toys just starts like twitching,
and shit, I'm like, okay, that's funny. When it started like
like, I laughed my ass offat that. Now to get to why

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this whole thing works and does notwork, it is mentioned earlier that Mother
Superior had a severe stroke. Iwas not aware that having a severe stroke
turns you into the toxic Avenger.That fucking woman had testicles glued to her

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face with the makeup drawings of theoriginal Evil Dead like matted onto her.
And then also was it was justgod awful, Like, First of all,
she had a stroke severe enough toturn her face into the toxic Avenger.
She is ungodly strong to be wheelingherself around in a wheelchair, first

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of all. And then why isthis bitch drinking wine? You should not
drink wine if you've had this debilitatingof a fucking stroke. First of all,
you shouldn't be doing goddamn anything that'sgonna affect your health. Further,
she's in this house, orphanage whatever, there's no access elevator to put her
up these fucking stairs. Yeah,she doesn't have a Grimlins chair, No,

(01:29:04):
she does. I thought the sameship to god damn I love that
movie. So no, she doesn'thave a Grimlins stairwell. And Ricky shows
up, and not only does heshow up again, like through the door,
which that is the weakest fucking doorI've seen, and the way the

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dead bolt is since right because likethe fucking dead bolt on the door does
not have an actual locking hinge comingout of where it is. It's the
door handle has its own lock,but the dead bolt has its own lock
that doesn't actually lock. She fuckingis fighting this full blown. This is
this is the part that I'm gettingto that doesn't make sense. She had

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a stroke, she's in a wheelchair. Ricky has lifted by hand a man
that is larger than him, Thisfucking guy in an alleyway, he's he's
ungodly strong. How is it onehanded? How is he being defeated by
a nun in a wheelchair and afucking like sofa table against a dorm that

(01:30:05):
that is flimsy as all fuck?Well? Because she kicks ass for the
Lord Richie Jesus fuck, I hadto man man, bitch looking like fucking
Wheels from the BK Kids Club,like you're kicking Ricky's ass, like shit,

(01:30:28):
man. Yeah, that as likedelivers a here's Johnny's scene, but
it's like they missed an opportunity there. Yeah, here's Ricky, here's Sanna
something something, you know, like, if you're gonna do it, just
do it. Yeah, stop tryingto hit me and hit me exactly.
If you can dodge a wrench,you can dodge anything. That's a tool

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that he needed to incorporate into hisarsenal. Where's Mick Foley to defend us
at Christmas? Shit? Oh shit? But yeah, the makeup effect on
her face, it's bizarre that theyincluded that line of dialogue about the stroke.

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They should have said she was ina house fire, or she got
in a car wreck or something else, because it's very obviously there to conceal
the fact that they changed actresses,because the same character is featured in the
flashback footage in the same film.And it's a good actress too. It's
a Lillian Shelvin. She's very talentedFrench actress. I think she played the

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mother Superior in the first film.This lady I don't know who the fuck
she is, but she's got alot of makeup on her face to cover
up the fact that they swapped herout. But by the way, when
Ricky is busting down the front doorof her home, this really reinforces what
I was talking about about kind ofthis movie pointing the finger a lot harder

(01:31:59):
towards the church and towards Mother Superioras being responsible for these two boys' rampage.
Her fucking address six six six featuredvery prominently in several shots during the
sequence it's you see it. Itis meant to register with you the viewer,
that she is the Devo, thedevil I invented Christmas del Vicky Valancourt,

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Mother Superior. She's uh, onlyRicky was charging of people going oh
Ricky, Bobby Bouche h two,oh yeah h two, Oh god,

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damn it. Yeah. Our finalgirl chase in this movie is between an
with a horribly burned face in afucking wheelchair being chased by Lex Luger in
a Santa Claus coast. So greatshot where she gets away and he finally

(01:33:15):
busts through the door and he's justlike hunched over, like with the fucking
acts dude, Like a couple ofthings. Again, I got to point
out, you know, with herhaving her debilitating stroke and her toxic avenger
face and she looks like she shouldbe weak as fuck. Dude, I

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think it's hilarious how she wheels overto the stairs. There's another wheelchair there,
and then he's about to swing ather, and then like she flies
out of the wheelchair and just takeslike the most violent tumble down a set
of stairs. Should have killed her. And you know, Ricky's far behind
because he got his axe stuck inthe wheelchair and he's trying to get it

(01:33:59):
out. She has enough time tostrong arm herself on the banister into a
wheelchair that's just conveniently placed at thebottom of the stairs, And like,
is this the fucking wheelchair emporium?Like what the heck? It's the Silent
hill House. There's just random wheelchairsjust strewn about. Yeah. It just
makes me like think about like she'sgot no service, stairwells, service elevator,

(01:34:23):
none of that. Sh does Shejust like army crawl up the stairs
to different wheelchairs. Like what happensif this bitch lives in like a five
story house and she's got to crawlto the fifth floor for something and she's
got a fifth wheelchair just chilling waitingfor her, like, and nobody else
is there to his sister, She'sa tough one cron that's how she likes
it. Yeah, she is.I mean she like is mad at a

(01:34:45):
Christmas parade. She has some winethat is really meant to instill in us
the viewer that she is not anice person. She's like watching the Christmas
parade and she's like, ah,they're fouling the sacrames. It's like,
wow, this is the Kremlins,lady, this is missus Deegle. She's

(01:35:06):
she's sitting there and she's like,my name is Superior. The real reason
real Cherry on Top, though,is that she grabs a kitchen knife and
she wheels out to face this motherfucker. Like, she doesn't hide, she
comes out to she comes to him. That whole goddamn scene is great,

(01:35:27):
Like she has the gall to starehim down a man on two legs that
already has that advantage over with afucking reachable axe, Like, dude,
you shouldn't be talking shit from yourfucking wheelchair, lady, Like this man
is about to wreck your ass.And she's just sitting there and she's like
shaking with the knife, like yellat him. She's like, you will

(01:35:47):
take your punishment and blah blah blah, like the fuck he is. She
has like a Darth Vader speech.She's like, you are weak, just
like your brother. Your brother's soulis mine, and I change it.
It's changed song, not Darth Vader, your brother soul is don't do it,

(01:36:10):
Ricky, I have the high groundand he's just like this looks down,
like okay, bit But it's actuallykind of interesting because we're laughing a
lot. But they actually made Iguess, some attempt to like carry on

(01:36:32):
her characterization from that first film becausewe didn't talk about it. But this
this actually worked in her favor lasttime, like she held to her faith
and stared the killer Santa Claus downand then fate or whatever got it if
you, if you will, likeintervened in the form of the detective shooting

(01:36:53):
Billy in the back. So itworked last time. So she's just kind
of banking that it's gonna work outagain. I guess it's like that wasn't
wise right. It's like when thegrab boyd spits out in the bomb the
second time, where it's like,oh shit, he learned, Oh my
god, I forgot about that.Holy shit. Yeah, God, I

(01:37:14):
love Tremors. Holy shit, Ilove that movie. Yeah, one of
my favorites when I was young.Still Second One too. Second One is
not not bad, and in fact, I think it just came out in
four k oh buy it. It'san arrow. They do good work,
Yeah they do. So we doget that stare down and we get an
off screen kill because when the policefinally do show up to the orphanage to

(01:37:40):
gun down Ricky, they can comeacross Mother Superior just kind of like sitting
in a chair and it's that revealof like, oh, her head got
lopped off very very cleanly. There'sno blood. This is a light saber
decapitation. Yeah, I want whateveracts he's using. That's fucking amazing.
This is this is Tay Diggs gettinghis face cut off an equilibrium fuck obscure

(01:38:09):
references. There you go, thereyou go. It's like a hot knife
through butter shit. But yeah,Ricky gets gunned down. But it's kind
of like he's showing like this superhumanas a kind of like thing, which
he's not impervious, but you know, he's he's taking like shots to the

(01:38:31):
face from a dude punching the fuckout of him, and there's no effect
on him. And I think hetakes maybe like three or four gun shots.
You know, I've lost count,but I know it was like,
not a whole bunch, but notone. He's putting up Michael Meyer's numbers.
Yeah, And they blast him throughone of the glass door frames or
whatever. And the ending is quiteinteresting. The second nun or nerves but

(01:39:00):
whatever rolls in there and the nicenun, yeah, yeah, the nice
one. She gets knocked down andyou know, she rolls over and she
sees like the decapitated head of MotherSuperior there and then causes her to scream.
And Ricky, who we think isdead, here's the scream, and
he opens his eyes and looks likehe just grins, and then it cuts
to what I think, or whatI believe is a shot of the knife

(01:39:25):
coming in getting stabbed, and that'sfrom the first movie, and they freeze
from it, and that's where thecredits starts to roll. And that's the
end of Ricky's arc in Silent Night, Deadly Night Part two, but it
is continued in Silent Night, DeadlyNight Part three, and Bill Moseley actually
plays him in that one. Wow, that's interesting. Yeah, So Silent

(01:39:48):
Night, Deadly Night three watch Outis the subtitle to that one. And
it certainly is a movie because thereis a part four and a Part five
and the Part five stars Mickey Rooney, Oh my God, the care Bears,
Yeah, and Jimminy Chillakers, rightdad. But it's quite fucking interesting

(01:40:12):
where this franchise went because Brian Usnadid Part four. I've heard that one's
pretty good because of that. Yeah, it leans into the kind of the
body horror aspect a little bit.So it's it's interesting where this franchise like
roller Coasters, Yeah, I've heardit's it's kind of wild, like it
goes some really unexpected places, likevery uneven franchise as far as I've heard.

(01:40:34):
But there are there actually are somegems in there, unexpected gems.
Yeah. And uh, there's beena remake with Malcolm McDowell just called Silent
Night that came out in the twentyten's Last Christmas. Devin and I actually
reviewed Christmas Bloody Christmas, which wasoriginally supposed to be a Silent Night,
Deadly Night remake, and then theyjust reused some of the scripting and like

(01:40:57):
did an original story with it.But like I said, I think the
original is probably the best one.Truthfully, it's it's the best one out
of the whole thing, including theremake that happened. I I quite enjoy
Silent Ight Deadly Night, and Ido watch it every year around this time.
Silent Night, Daily Night Part twoit's fun to sit through if you

(01:41:21):
if you know what you're getting into, it's fun to sit. It's fun
to sit with friends and popcorn andbeer what have you. And you know,
it's quotable, like in the badway. It's quotable with like eyebrow
raising and like naughty and like shewas naughtyish and Garbage Day. Yeah.
But uh, dude, this thisfilm, as far as the sequels go,

(01:41:45):
outside of Silent Night, Daily NightPart for initiation, I think this
this sequel is the most well knownof of sequels to most cult classic rror
films, at least in my opinion. It is so Yeah, I mean,
largely on the strength of Garbage Day, Yeah, which is unbelievable.
Yeah, it's a very widespread memes. It's pretty well known on the Internet

(01:42:10):
and outside of it, such thatthe entire movie kind of coasts on the
reputation of that, because I don'tthink many people have actually watched this movie.
If I'm being honest, I thinkmost people are familiar with it just
through the garbage day thing. Butyeah, I would agree with you,
Like I don't think it's as essentiallike a Christmas slasher as the first one,

(01:42:32):
but whether like a group of friendsor something, and it's a good
bad movie, it's a good badwatch. I think Kyle and I reviewed
Christmas Bloody Christmas last year as well. That's what the Terminator Santa Claus,
right, yep, yeah, yeah, I think we reviewed that last year
as well as Black Christmas, whichI would say is an essential Christmas horror

(01:42:53):
film. Like that is a verygood movie. Like not just like a
horror or a slasher, if youwant to call it that. I think
it's just a straight up well madegood movie. Yeah, this one's mostly
just for the holes, if I'mbeing honest, but there's there are a
lot of them, for sure.I did like that. I wrote this
down, Richie. That's how youknow I took this seriously. Ricky's last
words on screen are and as he'sbeing shot, perfect perfect. That's about

(01:43:27):
it. Perfect, perfect, perfect, Ricky wins Perfect Brazil, Japan,
Thailand, ber Ah, fuck yeah, that's silent My Deadly Night Part two,

(01:43:53):
Son of a Bitch. I thisgoes without saying. I know Trevor
and I will collaborate again, eitheron catching up on cinema or super media
Bros in the future, because likethis, it's always a fun time.
Dude. I really appreciate you comingto hang out and talking some garbage cinema
because we do talk about movies thatwe really actually enjoy, but it is

(01:44:15):
very fun to talk about garbage ongarbage Day. Yeah, man, I
had a blast, like it wasa pleasure of talking with you two weeks
in a row. Thanks again forcoming onto my show to talk about Kudzilla
Minus one. That was a greatconversation, very very quotable. I discovered
while I was editing it. Ihad a lot of fun making clips of

(01:44:36):
that one. And also I domaintain that our conversation about Beavis and butt
Head do America is one of thebest podcasts I've done. It's just it
is a Chris Farley Show episode wherein Richie and I basically just say hey,
remember that one part where that oneguy talked about Old Faithful. That
was awesome. It's basically that fortwo and a half hours or something,

(01:45:00):
but it was it was great fun. I've really enjoyed that, you remember,
I remember, Yeah, I fuckinghad a blast on that episode.
Two. If anybody would like tolisten to either of those episodes, they
will be in the show notes below, so scroll up and click them and
go hang out with Trevor and Iagain talking about other movies that are better

(01:45:21):
than Silent My Deadly Night apart two, if you would like to listen to
any of the other episodes of CatchingUp on Cinema, Trevor, let everybody
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(01:45:42):
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(01:46:03):
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(01:46:49):
back. I will be talking abouta Christmas story by Bob Clark. I
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