WWF SummerSlam 1993 - Worst SummerSlam Ever? (Ep. 289) - Super Media Bros Podcast

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The Supermedia Bros. Podcast is afounding member of the Odd Pods Media network
Supermas. On paper, this shouldhave been worth the fuck, but,

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as we will shortly let everybody that'slistening, no, this felt like a
very glorified house show slash glorified MondayNight Raw episode. Oh you think it
was glorified. I'm only saying glorifiedbecause of the stars since stripes and all
that shit. So okay, fairenough presentation. Yeah, So welcome to
the Supermedia Bros. Podcast, wheretwo best friends give comedically informative take us

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on movies, music, pro wrestling, and more. I'm Richie, I'm
Devin, and we are back inour thirty year time Machine series for the
WWE slash WWF and we are pickingup where King of the Ring nineteen ninety
three left off and rolling into AuburnHills, Michigan for Summer Slam nineteen ninety
three. And for this episode,our friend Russ from the Infectious Groove podcast
slash Music YouTube channel it is goingto join us because this man was actually

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in the crowd for this and Ihave got to here and you have got
to hear the scarification if you willof this poor man's soul in mind.
Ross, how's it going, dude, it's going. It's funny. We'll
go through this. I hated thisevent so much while I was at it
that I'm not okay. So,in the interest full disclosure, you already

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know I'm of a certain age ifI was at Summer Slam ninety three,
right, and then also you wouldhave put together that I'm from Detroit originally
Okay. Having said that, Ihave seen. I was there in person
for some of the most rebroadcast andcool moments of the Attitude error. Austin
driving in the Zamboni. I wasthere, like like Zamboni like I was

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there. We drove over to Albany. I saw Austin drive the milk truck
in, or I mean the beertruck. It was the Angle drove the
milk truck. But Austin drives thebeer truck in. I saw Rock throw
a stone cold quote unquote off theAmbassador Bridge when really it was just the
bridge on Belleisle and Detroit. Butyou know, so I've I've seen.

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I was there in person for someof the most rebroadcast moments in the history
of the WWF slash WWE. Ihave not watched not one minute of this
Summer Slam again since the night thatit happened in front of me at the
Palace, like I've never even I'venever even. I was in Vengeance,
like two thousand four or five sixsomewhere around there, there was a Vengeance

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pay per view that was from JoeLouis Arena, and it was nothing exciting
to speak of. I've rewatched thatlike six times, and I never I've
never rewatched not one minute of thisSummer Slam until I was rewatching it for
this podcast. Fans, I'm sorry, Yeah, yeah, you did this.
I did this. I did thisto me, all right. I

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will tell you this though, we'llgo through it well as we go through
it. What's funny is what yousaid, Richie about like on paper,
this should be good and not thenot the main event. There's no saving
the main event, and we'll getthere like the main nobody cares. I
will tell you this, absolutely noone in that place spot a ticket for
that main event, like nobody did. But the rest of it on paper
should be good, like for example, match by match last night, I

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kept being like, oh hell,this will be a barn burner, like
I don't. I don't know whyI don't remember this match, you know
what I mean, like with thelineup, with the with the lineup that
was on the card, right,and then like the matches are just there,
like there's nothing like you said,like you you hit the nail on
the head. Actually, and Ididn't even think about it until you mentioned
it. They're all like how showquality matches. Like if I told you

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then I was there to watch misterPerfect versus Shawn Michaels for the Intercontinental Trap,
would you be like, oh thatall timer? Holy shit? Hold
what a what a bet? Right? But then like this match is just
like Sean came to phone it inand so did Kurt, and Kurt never
phoned it in. You know.Yeah, it's just so weird. It's

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such a weird event. Yeah,And I will get to what I think
is surprisingly the best match on thecard, and a lot of people out
there might agree and they might disagree, but like, in my opinion,
it was the best match on thecar for what we got. So how
we usually do this is we rollfrom the start all the way to the
end. We're not going to fuckinganalyze this stuff, you know, beat

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for beat, because why would you. First of all, it's fucking Summer
Slam ninety three. Secondly, we'dbe here all night pretty much shit talking
it. So the opening contest isRazor Ramon versus a million dollar man,
Ted DiBiase in a seven minute andthirty two seconds singles match. Again,
on paper, it's fucking Raisor own. It's Ted Dbasi. I mean,
we got some pretty decent matches withIrs and Razor in later you know,

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iterations for the ic strap or whatever. But this it was decent for what
it was. It's it's your typicalshit healed ted d Bias and the bad
guy Razor. I mean, buya ticket for Razor, of course,
but it's like, come on,man, Razors had such better matches.
I will I will say that Razorremote is one of the reasons why I
bought a ticket, Like why Iwent to this event in the first place.

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Yep, No, Razor is great. And I told Richie this while
we were watching it. I waslike, to this day, Razor throws
some of the best looking worked punchesof all time. He's really really good,
And ted D Bias like, you'renot gonna really go wrong with that.
But like you said, dude,it was just too long for an

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opener, And to me, that'skind of like the theme of the night
is this is just too long forthe what this is? Yeah, of
course I don't know anything out thismatch, like the ins and outs of
it or anything, but I'm surethis isn't what it is. But this
match seems like they just kind offorgot what the finish was supposed to be

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and just kept going till somebody waslike, I don't know, I guess
this, We'll just end it here, you know, yeh, Like,
it just seems like nobody really knewwhat the finish was supposed to be,
so they just kept being like,I don't know, let's do another move.
Yeah, And they struggled getting intothe razor's edge for a hot second,
like I thought Dbasi was just gonnajust fall over like a goddamn twinkie.
Honestly, I will say though,and one thing, because I've never

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heard Heenan's commentary on the show,right because I was in the arena is
the only time I've ever seen it, so I know I've never heard the
commentary. He first of all hedid is on fire. This entire show
even even by Bobby Heenan standards,he's like a step above the whole show,
right, and he's been that waythe whole calendar year on these pay

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per views so far. Like someof the best shit that he's done with
the thing that reminded me of thatis he saved that terrible Razor's edge by
over selling the fact. Oh Ican't believe he got DBAs and wow,
you know, and it's like,well it should have been hard, but
yeah, yeah, But I likethe way that he instead of he he

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it never detracts. He always addsmystique to it, right, and he
did he did like you being everybodyelse who's an educated viewer watches that goes
Jesus Christ. But the way Heenansays it makes the average on a trade
viewer and be like, oh wow, that was a badass Razors edge,
you know when it wasn't, youknow? Right, Razor goes over the
million Dollar Man Teddy Boss in sevenminutes and thirty two seconds, and we

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go from that straight into a tagteam match where it is the Stunner Brothers
versus Jimmy del Ray and Tom Pritchardof the Heavenly bodies with Jim Cornette,
and you know, my man's inthe neck brace looking like Jim Cornett the
whole fucking night, you know,but he can move. I was laughing
my ass off of that every timethat in throw a promo up or every

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time he was at ringsides, likeI got a neck brace, but I
won't move my shit. Yeah,I know the whole time. I was
like, now, if anybody inaid of you did that, same fucking
shit. I mean, everybody nowlives by a different standard, right,
Like, I like, I understandJimmy Cornette's got some points of view.

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That's certainly saying something like everybody nowacts like they all were the greatest ever.
Then yeah, it's like, bro, it's on tape, we can
see you doing it wrong. Right. Yeah. There really was not a
whole bunch to write home about onthis match, and that's sad because like
individually and as tag teams not againsteach other, they can work. It's

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a solid match for what it is. But well, I'll tell you here's
what takes the air out of thismatch in my opinion, just for being
in the crowd, here's what Ican tell you. So they made obviously
they always make a huge deal outof the Steinders being from UVM, right
from Michigan, and ever Michigan istwenty minutes from the Palace of Alvern Hills.
You think anybody there were people,there were people in the parking lot

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across the street that were like,Steinders go over yet, you know what
I mean? Like you just likewere you was anybody expecting anything but the
signers to go over huge in thismatch? Right? So like this is
a match that even if it wasa minute and a half squash, all
of us in the place would havebeen like, Okay, cool, that's
over now, like you know.And also no, you know when you

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hear about a big band that's fromyour hometown and you're like, I've never
heard of this band before, youknow what I mean, Like like I
don't mean like with the White Stripeswere coming up, everybody Detroit knewho they
were right, but like Gred vanFleet keeps claiming they're from Detroit, but
like none of us from Detroit haveever heard of that band, like before
they became big. Okay, That'show it was with the standers, like
they kept forcing us, they keptbeing like your your guys from you event,

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and we were all like, wedon't none of us fucking grew up
on these guys, like it alllike none of us sit around. Why
you have them wrestling? You knowwhat I mean? Right? Like,
so they kept pushing that really hard, and we were like, well,
there two things. One we don'tcare at two we know they're going to
go over, so like this,there's no point in even having this match
me more than a minute and ahalf. Yeah, And the match went

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nine minutes and twenty eight seconds.Well, hold on, Russ, you
want that to be a minute anda half. You know, they just
would have given it to the mainevent. Yeah, well it's more time
for people to lift up lex Lugerfor him. Yeah exactly right. Yeah,
for a stipulation that despite winning thematch, he lost the stipulation.
But we'll get there later. Mywife, who is very new to sports

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entertainment, like within the last twelvemonths, we were watching this last night
and when they when the bell rang, my wife, who's less than a
year old in sports entertaining, says, yeah, but he can't win the
belt on account of or just qualification. And I was like, yep,
so fourteen and a half minutes late. We'll get to the man fourteen and

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a half minutes later. She's like, but why are they all celebrating?
Like I'm like, I don't know. Ye we don't, we don't know.
We see years later, I don'tknow. Yep, we said the
same fucking thing. And that's that'sexactly the takeaway from that, dude.
You got wait, wait till weget to the night events. What I'm
saying, there's stuff I want topoint out about the crowd. Yeah,
So Steiners go over the Heavenly Bodiesin nine minutes and twenty eight seconds,
and it was it was for theWA Tag Team Championship. Like you know,

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nobody, like you said, dude, nobody bought into the Heavenly Bodies
winning this. It was just,you know, they were glorified. And
that's not taking away too. Wereexactly right. It was it was a
glorified enhancement talent at that point.Yeah. It wasn't like they were up
against demolition or somebody that they hadhad an actual shot of taking the straps,
right, right, speaking of likesomebody with a shot had taken the

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strap We move on to the IntercontinentalChampionship match with Shawn Michael's versus mister Perfect,
which again, on paper, thisshould have been a fucking hell of
a match, and even for themphoning it in, it was fucking decent.
But dude, you expect so muchmore out of Hitting and Sean,
Like completely, it's an ell aminute and twenty second match. And I
mean you even have Diesel, whois new to the company right now and
he's a hell of a heater forSean and for me, this did nothing

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for either of these guys, Likethis match fuck all for either of them.
I know, I know, it'slike you said, it's not I
mean, this is I'm not sittinghere going, oh, this is the
worst match Sean was ever involved in. It the worst. But I mean
it's a decent match for both ofthem. But like when you're throwing around
the words Kurt Hennig and Sean Michael'sgenerally the words decent match don't work into

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that conversation. Nope, you know, yeah, and uh, I don't
know. It's just this is something. This is another reason this match and
just Raiser being there were like thereasons why I bought a ticket to this
event in the first place. Itpart of me as a kicks. I
think I was. I was eitherseventeen or eighteen part of me. When
you're a kid, you're like,oh, that's mister perfect right there,

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so like doesn't matter what he does, you know. But like even later
that night when we left, Iwasn't like, oh I got to see
mister Perfect. Like I was like, oh, he sure was there.
That's how Devin and I feel whenwe watch a movie for coltson a Saturday
and we're just like, well,that certainly was a movie. Yeah.
It was probably at this point inthe event where I was just sitting around

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trying to pinpoint what this entire eventreminded me of, and it finally dawned
on me. This is gonna soundlike I'm ragging on it even worse,
but I don't mean it to justhear it out. It is the wrestling
event equivalent to X Men The LastStand for me, where you look at
it on paper, and all ofthe implications of the plot and all of

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the concepts and everything, I reallylike, you know, like it was
an interesting enough plot with enough Iwouldn't say politics in it, but you
know what I'm saying, like itwas complex enough, it was it made
sense with what the rest of theseries was everything, But as you're watching

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it, even though there's always somethinggoing on, you're just like, man,
this is dragging. Why am Ibored watching this? And that's how
I felt pretty much the entire event, like I was watching it, but
dude, I kept looking at myphone like, Okay, all right,
how long is this shit? Damnthat was only eleven minutes. Fuck,

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it felt like thirty. I know. Let me I'll share with you this
here. When I was at theactual event at the end of this match,
I remember clearly saying to my buddywho was who was with me?
I remember clearly saying, oh,it's weird. Usually don't see title matches
and on account out boy, wouldI come to eat those words later on.

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But like you, in my defense, you usually don't see that,
like usually they'll it'll be a dustyfinisher or something like, you know.
And I was like, huh,he actually counted to ten, because you
know, you always see even yeah, eight and then somebody rolls in the
ring or nine, nine and ahalf, you know, And I when
when the ten hit the bell rang, I was like, huh, that's
weird. You usually don't see thatin the title match. Can we also

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uh yeah, so like the matchends, like you said, we account
out and Sean retains the account out. But like there's something else that I
just got reminded of. Can wetalk about how not consistent the referees count
cadences are on pinfalls and count outsin this pay per view, because I
swear one of those matches that motherfuckersaid it was like, yeah, anybuddy,

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uh, you're trying to get inthis shit early. Yeah. Yeah,
it's almost like you you can tell, you know, I mean,
we all know this is all worked, you know, like this is all
all the outcomes are predetermined, butlike I shouldn't be able to tell when
you start your count that this isthe actual finish, right, moving on

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to what is a fucking match thatshould have been on all by itself run
Our Scheister and Sean Waltman the onetwo three Kid and a five minute and
forty four second singles match. Ir S wins, Like I fucking have
nothing else to say about this match, Like this is around the era of
obviously like Sean going over raised oron raw and getting the one two three

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kid nickname and his you know smallpush, which one of his better matches
was brett On raw Sean until hedid his expot gimmick was again it felt
like he was just another glorified enhancementtalent and sadly enough, the fact that
Mike Rotunda was a big fucking dealin the NWA and and this guy rolls

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in there looking like yet another glorifiedenhancement talent, being Ted Dbasi's tax man,
which great gimmick he pulled. Itnot decide by too much, but
that was one of the first timesI clearly remember somebody getting repackaged as a
kid because I loved Barry Wyndam andMike Rotunda as a as a tag team.
And then you know, when you'rea kid, when you're fourteen fifteen,

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you know, and you don't knowthis stuff. I remember clearly seeing
I r s and being like,he looks just like Mike Rotunda, you
know, you know, literally likethirteen or fourteen, you know, And
then like a year later, I'mlike, oh, it is Mike.
That's okay. They you know,I didn't believe the guy's name was really
Erwin ur Scheister, but like,you know, I didn't. I didn't
know that it was exactly the samedude, and I was like, oh,

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so years later when people get repackagedand stuff, I was like,
oh, yeah, okay, Iknow that now, Like you know,
it's just one of those little thingsyou learn as you're growing up. And
then the only other thing I cansay is, how can I clearly talk
about how much I hate Sean Waldman? Okay? You know when people say
heat and then they say heal heat, and then they say go away heat,

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and then they say xpot heat.Okay, I wish I had invented
xbox heat. That's how much Ihate Sean. Like I don't like anything
he's ever done. I don't likehim as six. I don't like him
as twelve. I don't like himas fucking X. I don't like him
as one, two, three,I don't like him as any goddamn number
or letters. I don't fucking likehim as a person. I don't like

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him in the ring. I thinkhis whole Both of his finishers are the
stupidest finishers I've ever seen in myentire life. I don't think anybody who
can barely see over the top fuckingrope should have compete in anything except for
the women's division. What else youwere in the two most successful factions of
the Attitude era and managed to bethe fucking footnote in both. And I'm
not kidding you know that was prepared. That was all off the top of

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my head. That's how much Ihate x Pod. So my brother in
christ, I probably can't see overthe top rope. Man. Well,
then you get a match against AlexaBliss at the next you have no idea
what you just gave me permission forhim? A boy? Yeah, I
know it ain't gonna be a WWEpaily pie, but it's gonna be over

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only fans. Hey, bro,somebody's getting pinned for sure. Boy.
Yeah, but I just I believecurrently made it clear how much I can't
stand Xbox. He's just not myguy. I just don't just not my
thing. Well, it's a goodthing he lost by pinfall in this one,
so I RS goes over in amatch that I forgot even happened.

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You're welcome until we even talked aboutit, Like legitimately, I forgot not
even a joke. This is nota bit I forgot. No I watched
this. Oh I know there's anothermatch that I forgot took place as well,
So like when we get to it, we'll get there yesterday. I'm
aware. How are we forgetting wholematches? Dude? We we got fucking
like flashy stick like am I be? So we move on to what and

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this is sad saying this, butbarely match of the night should have been
Brett Hart versus Jerry Lawler for theyou know, undispeted title of King of
the Ring, because that got setup when Brett one King of the Ring
and Lawler came out and through thatfucking chair on him. Yeah, that
man was out from good. Andwe go into this match and Lawler,

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of course, being the greatest,one of the greatest fucking shit hells there
ever was in the business, rollingout there with ice on his knee and
crunches and all this bullshit. Shortstory later, we get the quote unquote
court gesture, which is like doingthe clown and what I think is one
of the most underrated heel gimmicks everheld. Matt Matt Bourne Dwink was so

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good. I met Dusty Wolf,the guy that portrayed down for a number
of years. He worked for mydad's old wrestling promotion back in the fucking
late nineties under the Mister Wrestling threeand doing the clown gimmick. Nice.
Yeah, he was super cool,dude, even he was just like,
nobody did it better than fucking MattBourne, right, right, right,

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because Matt brought the psychology of anevil clown, of a bastard fucking clown
to the ring and could work,like the gimmick wasn't stupid, He wasn't
a jobber at this point. Hecould work. And you stick him in
there with Brett, who I dareyou to say Brett has ever had like
a shit match. I'm sure he'shad what was called a shit match,

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but I would think that was forthe talent on the other side of the
rink. Goldberg and you, Ihate Goldberg like you hate XPOC. So
I hate Goldberg as much as Ihate Xbox, dude. And I remember
so many times I was having conversationsbecause like as a small child, because
you gotta realize, I'm twenty six, so as a kid, I was

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like, yeah, no, Goldberg'sone of the man's dude. And to
this day I'm like, hey,look my boy put on a ship match.
But still Goldberg, you know,like it's just I can't too much
of my childhood. I don't know. I'm in and I hope this doesn't
come out in a shitty way towardsyou because you were young at the time.

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Gold The thing I understand with Goldbergis that there was a lot of
marketing towards right on purpose. Itwas like, you know, is it
my dad can beat up your dadtype thing, like look at this guy.
He just comes out and he youknow, he beats himself up for
a bidden, A bunch of fireworksgo off, and he just annihilates people.
And I could totally see, likeas a young kid, I could

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totally see being like this is thegreatest person ever, which is how he
was marketing. So like, yeah, I totally get you feel that way
about him when he came out.Yeah, I can't, I can't do
it, sucking. No, no, no, Well, Rachel, you're
also you're I mean, you're notas old as me, but you're old
or you're old or enough to wearthat that type of marketing. I don't
think it would have went on.I saw through that ship, dude,

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I saw that that ship so hard. Like I'm thirty seven, Like I
saw through that ship when it washappening. I was like, yeah,
well my thing was when as soonas it came out, because I'm still
again older than you. As soonas Goldberg came through the curtain the first
time, I was like, huh, bald goatee, where's black doesn't like
authority? Where have I seen this? Well, I guess I'll just turn
USA back on and see what's goingon. Oh, that was where I

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saw it before, exactly like comingfrom the same fucking creative quote genius mind
that said a man in black tightswould never over. Hey, bro,
bro a, you're talking about VinceRusso. Bro, I'm talking about Eric.
But bro Id Russo can suck it. I don't give a fuck if
that. If this gets out andthose bastards here like Vince Russo, you

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suck bish off. You you didfuck off for the business o them,
then get yourself and Hogan over So. Moving on to the guy that puts
asses and fucking seats Brett Hitman.Hart goes over joined the clown in the
nine minute, five second match.Bret Hart worked this pay per view with
the flute. It still did asgood as he fucking did in SAE.
Brett worked a shitload of matches sick. He wrestled a fucking title match,

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intercontinental title match with the Mountie runninga one hundred and three degree fucking fever.
Dude, I heard that and Iwas like, immediately reminded of Michael
Jordan playing that one game with theflu where I could be wrong, but
I think he scored sixty three points. I think it was something just stupid,

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and it's like, how I don't, Yeah, that's Brett for you.
And the match ends by disqualification becauseJerry Lawler rolls in there, obviously
not hurting and breaks that crunch overhis shoulder, just beats the piss at
him for a hot minute. Andthen here comes Jack Tunny being like,
well, Jerry, if you don'twrestle Brett, you will be you know,

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he'll be like banned from the WWFfor a live or whatever. So
we get an impromptu match that shouldhave happened already and less time than the
wanks match with Brett. It's prettymuch Brett beating the fuck it breaks off
of him by the end of thisbecause he sticks him the sharpshooter for so
long that he wins the match andthen doesn't break it for probably like a

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good two and a half minutes andthen we get one of the one of
the first times I remember this decisionhappening was when the referee would reverse the
decision after the match was over forsomebody not relinquishing a hold, and Vince
McMahon the whole time at rings sideon commentary like oh, I can't believe
they did that to him pretty much, and I'm like, bitch, you
made the rules in this motherfucker,Like yes you did, Like, yes

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you did. You're like, oh, you can't believe that. Vet's given
about four years, Ye'll see whatyou can't believe exactly. Absolutely good match.
The finish was. It was somethingyou know, I mean, yeah,
it was like a time killer,honestly. Yeah. That's my big
issue with it is that two anda half minutes tragged when he just had

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him in the sharp shoot. It'slike, okay, you know how we
just had the slim gym battle oilat Summer Slam, Yeah, this past
couple of weeks ago, and howthat's kind of like, hey, we
gotta get everybody on the card.This was McMahon's version, like we gotta
get all the suits on the card. Yeah, it was it was too
much for my liking it. LikeI said earlier, just felt like it

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went on too long. It does, but I mean it kind of furthers
along because when you stop and thinkabout the fact that Lawlor and Brett had
a feud as long as they did, they kept finding ways to like keep
that shit going. Yeah, Imean, and I'll give it that,
But it's like we were talking offair earlier. It felt like a specific
episode of raw YEP. And sowhenever it's Summer Slam, I feel like

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Summer Slam is a spot where youeither begin stories or cap them off.
This felt like it was chapter twoout of ten. And granted it's a
very long storyline, I get that, but it's like for Summer Slam,
I feel like I shouldn't get thenotion of oh I can't wait to tune
in on Monday to see what happensnext with this storyline, Like no,

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I should be feeling a sense oflike damn. That felt like a conclusion
of sorts. Yeah, we gotnothing. No, all I can do
is it with you? I meanit's I mean, it's a really so
it's just restating the same thing overand over. But this this whole show
is just not you always hear peoplesay, even about bands, you know,
oh they're greater than there's some oftheir parts. The show is not

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greater than some of its parts.Right, Yeah, let's show us severely
lacking in the in the some part. So we're gonna take a quick commercial
break, and when we come back, we're going to talk about the back
half of this pay per view,which that does not get any better.
Even though you've got people like theUndertaker and Yokozuna and Bam Bam Bigelow on
the card, you would think,yeah, yeah, you're listening to the

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of the Odd Pods Media Network.Let's go ahead and get into another match

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that I forgot happened. Ludvig vordversus the forgotten rocker Marty Gennetti off his
rocker, Marty Gennetti don't seem tobe crash of a human being, Marty
genetic, Yeah, broke dick anklesMark, Marty Gannetti. I don't like
Marty. I just totally really Ididn't catch that. Uh yeah, I

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say Ludvig bordga I mean of Finnishbrock Lessner beats his ass and puts him
in the human torture rack and winsby submission in five minutes and fifteen seconds.
I could give like a flying fuckless about mister neon pants here.
I will actually give this match onelittle prop and that's actually the finish itself.

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Anytime you have a monster heel submitsomebody, especially given the promo package
and everything like that, ten outof ten times you are going to see
him hold it and the ref haveto pull him off and all that other
shit. They didn't do that becauseLudwig just saw what happened to Brett in

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storyline, and so they didn't dothe same finish twice but with a different
repercussion. I will give them that, like I'll bite yeah, like like
that that was Okay, I'm almostmad at you because that made so much
sense. Yeah, like there was, because I don't I don't want anything

(29:59):
good. It's true though they hadcontinuity. I'm not saying it was a
good match. I'm just saying whoeverkept charge of that little detail, good
job. That was probably a totalaccident too. It was better than Nightmare
on Elm Street two because it hadcontinent. Okay, I will I will

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defend a Nightmare on Elm Street twofor a multitude of reasons. But yeah,
it was well. I was gonnasay it's better than Halloween three,
but that's also got its own merits. Never mind, yep, what what
what would be better? Then?If we're going to buy on Pray thirteenth
Part five, it's better than Praybecause it's got continuity. I like five,
now, come on, I likeI like four. Five and give

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me that one. I'll give youthat one. Though. I do like
four or five and six, butI love four at six. Yeah,
like four and six, And Idon't like uh Dad's Mad Part five,
Jason goes to Hell. It's betterthan Jason goes to Hell. The final
frontay. Yeah, there we go. That'll work. Fuck them. The
Undertaker versus the Giant Gunzales Part twoin a resting piece match. Why am
I sitting here going fuck this Undertakermatch? So I do the only I

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only have one positive thing to sayabout this whole thing. It's not even
positive, it's just a funny observation. So this was the first time I
was ever in the same building withthe Undertaker, Okay, So I had
never seen like the lights go outor heard the gong or the music or
anything. Okay. So, andyou may want to get like I've never
in my life said this to somebody, But you may want to go back
and watch this footage again from ninetythree Summerslimes to get the full scope of

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what I'm talking about. So youknow, when the Undertaker comes out on
any event ever, yeah, thelights go out, but like there's always
still like the the arena lights arestill on, like the you know,
the section lights and stuff and likethe event stuff. Okay, if you
watch this, that the whole palacewent pitch black, like you can't see
your hand in front of your facewhen the Undertaker came out. And here's

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the thing. It was that Iwas up in the corridor when the Undertaker
started his entrance. I was uplike at the concession stands. The fucking
lights went out there too, Likethe whole palace went pitch ass black dark
like they would you like, inthe last ten years or so Undertaker coming

(32:13):
out, they would never black outthe entire arena, including the you know
I like, but if you watchwhen you if you go back and watch
the Undertaker's entrance again from this lookup the steps and stuff, you'll see
it. You can't see end ofthe corner. It's the whole palace.
What's pitch asked black dude. Imaginea kid coming back from the bathroom with
his parents in that little bastard,dude, I was like, I was

(32:35):
eighteen, and I was like,where's my dad? I'm talking you.
Literally, the whole goddamn palace wentout. You couldn't see your hand in
front of your face in the fuckingcorridor until the Undertaker, like all of
us just stood in place, andlike you know when he does the thing
where he raises his hands and thelights come up, like all the lights
came up, and we were alllike, okay, can we resume our
lives now? Like it was.It was the weirdest thing. So it

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for did the attitude era. Youknow, we're in the smokey ass Joe
Louis Arena and anytime the Taker comesout or whatever else, like, it's
like less than half a blackout.And I always wanted to be like,
this is not how it works.You none of you know, you know
what. I was a kid.I pissed my pants in the bathroom because
I couldn't see anything. It's likewe were a kid. We couldn't see.
But I'm serious. It was thefirst time I ever saw the Undertaker

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come out. It was totally uniquebecause I never saw him do another I
saw him, Jesus, I don'tknow ten fifteen more times after that in
person, and I know it wasnever anything close to that as far as
the blackout. Oh, and thenthe rest of the match was happening,
and it was awful. Yeah,Undertaker one with a top rope clothesline and
the giant Gonzalez his body suit waseven more tan than he was, which

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I thought was not even a possiblefucking feet Oh and then Paul Bearer was
gone at some point and he comesback to the ring. Instead of like
carrying like the urn or a biggerurn, he comes to the ring with
a wreath, and McMann and Meenanare selling that like a fucking gun shot
on common, and it's like,dude, it's a fucking black floral wreath,
Like who gives a ship? Thisis not a casket match, This

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is not anything special. A restin peace match was supposed to be no
count out, no disqualification, andthey put neither of those stipulations to use.
It not really just like far andaway. The most interesting part of
the whole thing for me was theTaker's entrance because I was like, if
I was if I was down inmy seat, I wouldn't have known that
the whole damn building blacked out,you know what I mean, Like I

(34:28):
happened to be up in the corridorwhen it happened. Yeah, and then
we move on to the semi hwell, I would say semi may event
it is the penultimate match of thenight. It is to Taka and the
Smoking Guns, which is a reallyfucking weird pairing versus Bam Bam Bigelow in
the Headshrinkers. Two of these guysare eventually gonna go to Money Incorporated in
a little over a year and ahalf time. The head Shrinkers are the

(34:51):
fucking head Shrinkers. I will watchanything they do because they're at least entertaining.
I like off of I like Ska, like the old guys, but
then I like Samoan Fatu for youknow, those of you that don't know.
Uh. Fattu is also known asRakishi, who is also the USO's
daddy, looking very usy in thispay per view as he was uh.

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This was a fine match for asix man tag. I will watch anything
that Bam Bam does. I havesaid this before several times on this podcast,
and I will continue to say it. I think Bam Bam Bigelow was
one of the best, if notthe actual best big man in the business.
He was so agile, he movedlike a little dude, and he
worked his ass off him and hemade he made his ship look fucking believable

(35:34):
when he when he was laying itin and he just looked badass with the
fucking head flames and everything. LikeI can't, I cannot bad mouth that
dude at all, even the shithe did an ECW fantastic shit, Tatanka.
I love that dude. I lovedhim as a kid. I still
like watching him work us. He'sthe quintessential like good guy for like little

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kids and shit. It was soweird seeing him do a heel run later
on, but very believable as aheel. This match, like I said,
this was filler, but it wasactually like a decent filler, Like
It's one of the only positives ofthis pay per view. Honestly, a
couple of things I want to say. Number one, Tatanka has the distinction
in my mind of he has myfavorite Howard Finkel introduction, which is always

(36:17):
every time to favorite have far andaway my favorite thing other than I knew,
well that's my favorite thing that Finkelever said was to Tatanka's name.
Uh. Other than that, though, what's funny is like, what this
should be a filler match, butit ends up being a highlight of the
night. Because nearly everybody else phonedin uptil this point, right, So,

(36:38):
like you and it's weird saying thatbecause drinkers are not guys that would
phone stuff in. Billy and Bartwhatever you like to say about you know,
Bart and what he the lack ofwhat he went on to do,
and uh, you know everything elseBilly got involved in. And Tatana you
said Tatanka had a weird turn there. But like, all of these names
are not people that you would everbe like, you would ever say,

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oh, well, we'll put themin the filler match, right, And
I almost feel like everybody in thematch probably worked a little bit harder because
they were like, you know what, it was bullshit, Like all the
people who should have been working harderthan us didn't. You know, is
there a reason why everything felt phonedin because it was on American soil.
It's not like even if it waslike a Saudi Arabia match, Okay,

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Like if somebody were to have phonedit in their first match out there because
they were like, man, thisfeels fucking wrong for me, blah blah
blah something like that, I'd belike, Okay, I mean, you're
still at work, buddy, butokay, what was the story to this?
Like what you know? What youdon't What's funny is this is like

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the totally forgotten event. Like no, there's like wrestlers and managers and financing
guys and anybody involved in sports entertainment. Well, especially in the podcast era,
they will all sit around talk towhoever about the same stuff over and
over and over, right, likethe Royal Roubles ninety two and ninety seven
and Bash of the Beach two thousandand all this stuff that gets talked.

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No one has anything to say aboutthe show like ever, Like nobody ever
brings the show up. It nevergets talked about. Having said all of
that, I won the way outsidelooking in, I feel like Richie kind
of hit the nail on the headearlier. I bet if you were to
ask some of the people involved inthe show, I bet a lot of
them just felt like they got theirmarching artists for Vince, Like, Hey,
I know this doesn't make sense,but we got to put you on

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the card, so like, justgo do this match. And I feel
like, like you said, you'restill at work and you're still getting paid,
right, But I feel like alot of these guys were like nothing
about this makes any sense. There'sbarely any push to any of this,
So like, sure, pay meand I'll go out and do a match,
like if you if you want tocall it Summer Slam, that's on
you, you know. But like, I'm going to go out and work

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this match that was put in frontof me. But don't you felt like
Richie, I know you've listened toand you've watched all this YouTube content,
all this shit I have listen.Isn't it weird that no one ever talks
about anything to do with the showlike ever? Yes, and no,
it's weird because it's like it's fuckingSummer Slam, But it's not weird because
it was Summer Slam ninety three.Like no, I know, but it
doesn't. Yeah, but everyone everyoneacknowledges that it's such a bad show.

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Sure, yeah, but like noone ever talks about the house and wise
of it ever. Yeah, AndI don't. I don't think that there's
really anything that you know. Italmost felt like they did the King of
the Ring for the first time asa pay per view this year, and
that was much more important storyline wise, and a lot of other things,

(39:30):
And this felt very much like,well, we have to do something between
now on Survivor series, and wehave to further along whatever the fuck we're
selling it Survivor Series. Which let'slet's go ahead and wrap up the fact
that like Tatanka swamping guns went overin eleven minutes and fifteen seconds. Keeping
with what I was about to say, moving into a lex Luca versus Yoko
Zuna for the Wwfayweight Championship in aseventeen minute and fifty eight second match,

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which shouldn't have even been like fuckingsixteen minutes and fifty eight seconds. They
were leaning really hard into the allAmerican shit versus a quote very heavily air
quote Japanese man, which come on, man, Rodney annoyed Yokozuna. I
get what they were going for,but my god, Devin pointed this shit

(40:13):
out. That man lets his hairdown. Oh no, that is a
motherfucking samoan. There's no like evenas a kid like I bought it because
he had his hair tied, andoh for sure, yeah yeah, yeah,
like like that I understood, Butdude, once he let his hair
down, I was like, Iit's impossible for me to go back in

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time and show Little Kidney this.But at the same point, I'm thinking,
Okay, I grew up watching Leloand Stitch. Okay, I know
that's a cartoon, but like theydrew them pretty accurate to how the people
of Hawaii look. I feel likeI would have looked at that man and
when no, you kind of lookHawaiian. Okay, Like that's what I

(40:58):
would have thought, you know,I don't know. I don't know,
dude, like that. For me, there's a couple of issues here,
and this all comes in like Iliterally I talked about this earlier. I
assure you're not one person in thatbuilding bought a ticket for this main event.
Not one person in the building,okay. And there's two issues with
it. Number One, Yeah,I was like seventeen eighteen at the time,

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and I don't think any of usquestion that, you know, because
then it was was a Japanese atthe time, because you just you know,
you just go along with what you'retold, and you're like, I
don't know, maybe sure, maybeit's Japanese, you know. But the
thing is, you know, inthe mid eighties, like in the middle
of the Cold War, like youcan do Hogan versus Chic you know,
and certainly at the Stay at theTop of Desert Storm, you can do
Hogan versus Slaughter. But like inninety three, man, this whole like

(41:44):
USA USA, like you can't anchorthe entire show on that, Like there
wasn't in ninety three. There wasno like us versus everyone else thing happening
in the world at that time.And so it's it's like, not only
do you have this guy now thatwe have a benefit behind tight looking at
going wow, like how off themark racially are you? You know,

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but like at the time, likenobody in the bay had nothing to do
with Lex Luger, which is itsown argument about how Lex Luger really shouldn't
be the face of any company likeit it didn't have anything to do with
that. Like none of us inthere were like all right, I can't
say Luger. It's just like noneof us were like do it for the
USA, Lex, Like none ofus cared about that aspect, like at

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all, like at all, nobodycared about that. And when you take
that, they could have like donea million others like fake and injury,
where like Yoka's in a you know, breaks one of Alex's legs or whatever,
and he's got to come back fromthat or so like any of that
would have resonated with the crowd,especially a Detroit crowd, right like always
need to come back of being theunderdog or whatever. Right like that would

(42:49):
have resonated with the crowd so muchmore than like foe USA is some you
know, like it was just itwas such a weird it's a weird thing
I got. Honest to god,It's probably the only show I've ever been
to in my entire life where literallyno one bought a ticket for the main
event. Like by the time themain event happened, And this is what
I was going to talk about earlier, we were all tolerating being in the

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building, like we were all justlike, oh shit. And also that
other match's gonna happen. I fuckingbelieve it, because the stipulation with this
match also is that if Luger loses, he doesn't get another shot at the
title as long as Yokozuna is champion. Now, shit, little wasted time
later, because I'm not even goingto break this matchdown. It is literally

(43:34):
like a longer version of Lugers showingup to body slam him on the fucking
uss and trepid, So we getthe whole Lex Express thing. Lex Luger
has been repackaged from the narcissist gimmick, which again I don't feel like anybody
should have bought into this bullshit whatsoever. It's like, you go from like
the most arrogant, prick muscle headdude, and I'm like, oh,
I'm going to beat this all Americanguy because they were trying to basically give

(43:58):
us the next Hulk Hogan and LexLuke would never be the next hole Cogan.
He was never Lex Luker. Themotherfucker wore the wrong types of the
ring. They should have been fuckinggreen, because the motherfucker was as green
as goose shit his entire fucking run. I don't give a shit when anybody
says I thought Luker was one ofthe worst goddamn workers in the history of
the support. Yeah, and toback up on another thing, you just
said the whole that we're trying togive you the next Hogan, like they

(44:21):
hit on the wrong thing. Ifyou're gonna mold somebody after Hogan. Okay,
Hogan's whole bit at that time wasnot just USA USA, USA,
Like, Yeah, he'd been intwo big angles with where the USA was
the thing? Right, but likethere was more to Hogan's character than that,
okay, And they gave. LikeI said, even if they just

(44:43):
did, even if they did,Yoka's gonna put Alex's leg up against the
turnbuckle and you know, did abond's eye drop on it and quote broke
his leg in storyline, right,and Alex had to come from back from
that. That would have been moreHogan than doing that. Just like they
rested the whole thing on. Lexloves the USA, and like all of

(45:06):
us in the crowd were kind oflike and like and what else does Lex?
Do? You know what I mean? Like why how can your entire
character, how can you expect anentire arena of people to root for the
face on that one thing? LikeI also don't hate where we are in

(45:28):
this country, you know what Imean? Like? How is that?
You know? So? The onlyother thing I was going to point out
earlier, and I want to saythis before I forget, is this is
the only other thing I would tellyou to go back and rewatch on this
when you see that that count outhappen. Look at the stairwells. Literally
everybody in that place is just likeand it. But it's not You've seen

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you see when people get mad ata finish and they leave, right,
this is not people being mad atthe finish. This people going oh fuck,
thank God, like like okay,good because literally everybody was just tolerating
that match, just like everybody therewas just tolerating that match. And then
the second it was like ding dingding. There wasn't. When we were

(46:12):
going up the stairway, we wereall confused because we all did what everybody
else did when you watch the show. We turned around, I remember clear,
like turning around, walking up thesteps and being like, why the
fuck is Lex up on there?Fucking so what? Like what? And
then we're in the car we werelike did we miss something? Did Lex
win? Or like, but noone cared enough to know, Like we

(46:32):
weren't arguing about it, like no, you missed and this happened. All
of us were like huh did huh? Well okay whatever, like you know
what I mean, Like absolutely noone cared, yeah, because that was
the weirdest fucking thing to me andto you too then because like okay,
so like part of the gimmick withthis is that you know when Lex is

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a baby face at this point,he is is required to wear the forearm
pad, as per Jim Cornett andmister Fuji, because Luger famously in real
life was in a motorcycle accident thatcaused him to have to have a metal
plate in his form, So therunning form was his finishing maneuver for the

(47:14):
longest time because of that. Sofor this they would always make him wear
the elbowpad because it was a DQif not, so when the referee is
distracted, Luger pulls the forearm padup, knocks Yoko out of the ring
for the ten count and that's itnow to Russ and your point also,
Devon and to a lot of peoplethat watch this fucking show again, why

(47:35):
the fuck would you celebrate like youjust won the championship and like all this
pomp and circumstance, no pun intendedfor mister Savage, all this pomp and
circumstance happening with like loons dropping andconfetti dropping, and he's getting lifted on
their shoulders and waving the flag.It's like there was no major conflict happening
to where this victory meant shit anyway, and if you didn't get the championship,

(47:59):
Like, how would you celebrate basicallyfucking yourself out of a title shot
for over almost a year? Idon't understand it, Like, couldn't you?
I don't know. I'm trying toride it out of that corner because
it's like, well, couldn't youjust go out and get Yoga Zoo.
It's Yoga Zoo. You're not pickingthat fucker up and putting him in the

(48:21):
ring. He sold that goddamn forearmthrough the end credit video package, the
backstage interview, and then they stillcame back and he was still out of
the on the outside of the ring. But it was fucking hilarious just to
hear Bobby heend and be like somewhathelp Yoko, why didn't you just do
this in the ring? Like didthey just not want to put the title

(48:43):
on Lex? Like, dude,it would I hate to say this,
but it would have been the wrongfucking move to put the title on him
at that time. I mean yeah, but it's just like, why were
they so dead set on having Lexcome out victorious? I guess this is
my question. Lack of options?Yep, lack of options protects Yoko Zuno
from looking bad by losing it toa pinfall, and it also protects Lex

(49:06):
Luker from looking bad losing to thisguy on the soil. It's so dumbinant
How does one look bad by losingagainst the champion? Though, especially if
it's Yoko, make it makes sense. I wish I could. The WWE
in the Summer and Fall of ninetythree is an accurate picture of what happens

(49:28):
when you don't prepare for the expectedand the unexpected, right, So,
like you have people aging out atthat time who are just not going to
capture the hearts and minds of youngerpeople anymore, right, and you have
people coming up who like aren't thereyet. Like, like, again,
as much as I hate him,Waltman went on to be a big thing,

(49:50):
right, but he's like not evenclose to like in the discussion at
this time of being like a bigdeal, you know, And you don't
have yeah heels like Borgo that peoplelike, you know, it's just there,
like nobody somebody veheminently hates, youknow. And then you have like
the whole steroids scandal, which knockedout a huge part of the roster rate
before this, So they should haveexpected that they needed to be bringing people

(50:15):
up that the audience would care about, and that would have helped cover for
the unexpected, which was like thesteroids scandal and people moving on, or
even like with what happened with Hellwigwhere he just like you know, all
of a sudden like went batchet andquit again and whatever, right, like
I still, I still even thoughwarriors will loose cannon like that's I filed

(50:37):
that under unexpected at that time,right, So they were had zero plan
for the expected or the unexpected,right, and this is what happens.
You end up with people to me, we you know what I know,
y'all are friends with the Attitude Erareview podcast. We I've been on there

(50:57):
several times, and we've come upwith this uh term seven thirty booking,
meaning like you know, for Rawor Nitro, you can tell when seven
thirty somebody went, fuck, wegotta get those guys on the card,
you know, and then like puttogether a shitty shitty match and you know
it makes no sense. This wholethis whole card up tune, including uh,

(51:21):
the ridiculous main event and the andthe non finish of it. Uh
all reeks of seven thirty booking,Like they all got to the palace that
day and we're like, m anybodythink what we're supposed to do with the
ends of all these matches? No, you did shit, who was supposed
to do that? You know?And then they like just went on the
said all right, here's here's howthey'll all end, and nobody stopped to

(51:42):
think how dumb the ending of themain event was. And also I wonder
too if they're just like, fuck, people don't give a shit about this
anyways? Who fucking cares? Nowthis ends? You know what I mean,
that's kind of how I do wonderthat. Yeah, that's kind of
how it looked, and it's howit felt on paper. Big man,
can fuck it. You just haveyou just have lack of options. You
have nothing to do. Uh,you know, there's let me put it

(52:06):
this way. I would put thequestion back to you, Devin and say
this, how do you book thisto this? And he's like, I
mean, you don't get to go, oh well I would have put some
and so on the match. No, you're stuck with this match. Fuck
you know what I mean, whatdo you do? You know, it's
lack of planning that led us toleave it being left with this match,

(52:27):
and so there's no there's no goodoutcome, no, because really the match,
even on paper you look at it, it's like, well, who's
the workhorse, who's the one that'sactually carrying the match? So you shouldn't
even have done it to begin with. But if you were going to as

(52:50):
a finished dude dog that this isone of the occasions where it's like,
you hate criticizing without construction to it, but it's like, what else is
there? Like I said, youshouldn't have done it to begin with,
there's there's nothing there. I feellike the only way I could see this

(53:13):
being booked any other way than whatwe got. Cornett doing his bidding by
being like, okay, no,no, you have to wear this forearm
pad. Luker hits Yokazuna with theforearm. Cornett and Fuji see this happen,
and they are all of a suddenjustified in cheating to win because Luker

(53:34):
was cheating to win. And Imean you could you could have had the
ref not see that bomb happening,but you could have like salted Luger's eyes
or you see him pull the forearmpad up, He's going to run at
Yokazuna. Fuji's already on the apronsalt him in the fucking eyes. Yoko
hits a belly to belly fucking Bonzaidrops his ass, pins him in the
ring. Fans are pissed off.Of course they're fucking pissed off. Luca
doesn't get his rematch. Well,he wasn't gonna get his fucking rematch anyway.

(53:57):
With his finish, send send Yokohome with a devisive, decisive victory
and even more heel heat. Andthen you have Luger chasing the fucking like,
how am I going to get atitle shot? Which not happening to
the Rumble ninety four, It givesYoko even more megaheat, and then you
know, it makes the Survivor Seriesmatch that happens in November a little more

(54:19):
meaningful for Luger to get his handson Yokozuna, at least in some fucking
form of fashion for some you know, revenge or whatever. But I would
have booked a dirty finish from Fuji, Cornett and Yoga Zuna conspiring to beat
Luger, because then Luger could belike, well, that just proves your
man couldn't have beat me, butthen Cornette and then being like you couldn't
beat Yogo without the fucking forearm,So like it creates, you know,

(54:42):
some tension there that can last.Anything would have been better than the bullshit
we fucking got for this. Yeah, and that's just fucking armchair booking a
like I tell you, man,I should you not? All the way
up the stairway corridor in the caron the way home, all of us
were like what, Like what didI did you miss him? Did I
missing? The biggest thing is everybodyin the car was like I don't know.

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I didn't care enough to like reallyknow what was you know what I
mean, Like I'm not high enoughfor the ship. Yeah, I think
of enough. I can think ofso many other events. We're on the
way home. We talked about itand everything and people were like like,
oh yeah, okay, this thatand the other thing or whatever else.
Oh okay, Like okay, Iget where. We've all like thought our
way through it, and like withthis, literally everybody in the car was
like, I don't know. Iwasn't I didn't care enough about the main

(55:28):
event to like remotely Yeah, it'sjust it's just it's like I said,
the only the only way I cankeep I know, I keep reiterating the
same point, but the only wayI can make it clear is literally no
one in that building cared anyways.So I feel like they were just like
w WF was like whatever, youknow, Like who really cares about the
whatever Wrestling Federation? Yeah? Yeah, but yeah, that's that's that's Summer

(55:52):
Slam nineteen ninety three from Auburn Runto the Hills in Michigan. As the
crowd I would probably call it atthat point, I feel we pretty much
I was going to say final thoughtson this, but I think we've kind
of left it all out on thegoddamn tail. Like I said, just
ord nothing on it aside from thevery last minute was offensively bad. I

(56:15):
just struggled to get through it.The only positive I can say is that
it leans itself into maybe Survivor Serieswill be a little better. And it's
not much better, but at leastat Survivor Series, we're getting set up
for what, in my opinion,was a pretty fucking stellar year for the
company on paper and in some ofthe events in nineteen ninety four. Sure,

(56:37):
because when we come back to thetime Machine series with WWF. We
will be talking about Survivor series nineteenninety three in November. Why do you
tell you this when you whenever thetime Machine rolls around? The Survivor series
nineteen ninety nine, that's another oneI was at where we rolled into that
building all excited to see Stone ColdSteve Austin, oh boy, and and

(57:00):
then guess what happened. So whenyou get around to that one, I
was there for that too, Sowe'll definitely be calling you for sure.
At least at least that's a bettershow overall. But then again, everything's
a better show than Slimmer slim ninetythree. So right, Russ, tell
all the fine people out there listeningwhat you do, where they can come
listen to you guys, and wherethey can come watch you guys have because

(57:22):
of Russ does amazing music content onthe podcast Infectious Grow and also on the
YouTube channel that they do over there. Great work. But I'm gonna let
this man give you the sales pitch. Yeah. Yeah. Everything we do
is all three music videos a weekover on YouTube so and YouTube dot com
slash Intrectous Groove, and all yougotta do is come find the channel and

(57:43):
subscribe. We have videos come outon Tuesday, Thursday, and Saturday.
We just recently buy popular demand fromthe audience got into music reaction games to
our videos every Saturday, our reactionvideos to live performances and music videos and
all that stuff. It seems tobe going well so far. Our Tuesday
and Thursday videos are always They followthe same scope that we used to have

(58:07):
on the Infections Group podcast, whichwas all positive. So we don't do
any of the five overrated or fiveoverhyped or anything like that. We do
underrated, We do great stuff,and so we do a bunch of different
series that are just positive ways tolook at music. If there's an artist
or a song or an album orgenre that we don't like, we don't

(58:28):
talk about it. There's plenty ofother channels out there where you can hear
people bet Jimona complain about things theydon't like, and that isn't us.
So if that's what you're looking for, don't come subscribe to our channel.
But if you are looking for avoice of positivity in the world, and
maybe songs that you haven't heard ina while, or artists that you haven't
heard from, or heard of them. That's the channel you're looking for,
So check that out and if youwant to get into that channel, I

(58:52):
will provide a link in the shownotes below, So just scroll up and
click that shit. Go there andhit subscribe button goddamn it, and hit
the notification. Well. I knowevery creator says that all the time on
YouTube, but that is like asimportant to sending the subscribe button because YouTube,
even though we put out three videosa week, and you have told
YouTube that you would like to seeour videos, because you hit subscribe,

(59:13):
you literally will not know that weput out our three videos every week unless
you also hit the notification bell.Yeah, because YouTube has a shitty habit
of just burying your asses and itis insane. It is absolutely in saying
how like how you get hidden,Like if Sonny subscribes to something you would
think automatically YouTube would be like,hey that thing that you have told us

(59:35):
that you like, but nope.You know, when you see creators and
videos going, please sage, makesure to hold that belt. Like I'm
telling you from experience it absolutely,I've We've had we've had people that have
been subscribe to our channel for sixmonths, seven months and they'll catch a
video literally on accident and then belike, oh, I thought you guys
stopped putting videos out, Like Ihaven't, you know, I didn't have

(59:59):
any idea that you guys. AndI'm like, you know, we put
three out of every week. They'relike, oh, I missed like three
or four seven six seven months worthof content because I have no idea.
So yeah, yeah, my brainhurts on that one. It's ridiculous.
It's it's ridiculous. So and partof it, too, is and I
don't mean to, you know,be like, oh, what was me?
But part of it too is youdo get more clicks with sensational stuff,

(01:00:20):
you know, like this is themost overrated, Oh this is the
worst thing ever, or you know, and all that stuff. But that's
not what we do. So I'mnot, you know, going for it.
And I could. I could complainup a storm about a bunch of
music I don't like, but Idon't want to. Well, well,
I'm gonna put worst Summer Slam everon the fucking title for this. Goddamn
you, jud I Dode. Iguarantee you I'm not being funny when I
say this. You will get waymore clicks with that than even if you're

(01:00:43):
like a constructive discussion about Summer Slam, you will get way less clix.
Or if you're like, uh,you know, like we first hand account
of Summer Slam ninety three, youwill get way less click than if you're
not, like worst thing that's everhappened to anyone ever. Russ, thank
you very much for coming to hangout and do this with us. Man,
it was much more fun to talkabout having you on here. I

(01:01:07):
like talking wrestling with you in general, because like Russ and I will go
back and forth either on Twitter orjust over text messages about about you know,
specific wrestling matches like when when wethink about it. But it's always
fun to have a discussion, youknow, especially when you know the people
at the table are like have eitherbeen there, grew up on it,
or just knowledgeable about the ship.Right. I will say this, and

(01:01:28):
this is the biggest compliment I canpay you two is discussing this with you
tonight was far more fun than whenI sat through it in person and when
I just watched it last night forthe first time since I sat through it
in person. This discussion was farmore entertaining than that, So I will

(01:01:49):
say. Let me send that tipto your listeners. If you're listening to
any of this and you're going,oh, there's no way it's as bad
as they say, Yes it is. It's I was there. It's it's
as bad as we are saying itis. Don't go watch that. Just
listen to this episode again instead ofgoing to watch Summer Slime ninety three.
That's right. But if you wouldlike to listen to more wrestling content,

(01:02:09):
visit Supermedia Pros podcast dot com forpast, president and future episodes. Check
out all the other shows, includingthe Infectious Groove podcast on the Odd Pods
Media Network. Subscribe to us onYouTube, follow us on social media,
leave us a rating, interview atApple Podcasts, Spotify, Good Pods at
pod Chaser. You know all thatjazz? All right, everybody, this

(01:02:30):
has been SummerSlam nineteen ninety three fromAuburn Hills, Michigan, Episode two hundred
and eighty nine. Good God,please come back and hang out with us
when we do Survivor Series nineteen ninetythree. It's guaranteed to be much more
of a blast in this piece ofshit. Until next time, I've been

(01:02:51):
Richie. I'm Devin shades on we'reall

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