June 2, 2021 • 38 mins
In this awesome episode we welcome Daniel Schreiber to the podcast. Daniel is a bit of an all-round Podio guru and has two amazing Podio integrations he has built that are designed to help you protect your data and protect your processes.
We spend the bulk of this episode looking into Daniel's newest extension - ValiPod (https://vali-pod.io) which is a pretty incredible way of building in data validation rules into your Podio to ensure that you and your system are always playing by the rules you want to set.
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Narrator (00:00):
Welcome to powered by podio automation is everything.
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world as we investigate systemintegrations and add ons and
hear from real business ownerswho have implemented podio into
their business. Now, join yourhost Jordan Samuel Fleming, CEO
of game changers for this week'sepisode.
Jordan Fleming (00:45):
Hey, everybody, and welcome to this week's
episode of supercharged, I'myour host, Jordan Samuel Fleming
here to talk all about the powerof workflow and automation, when
your business is powered bypodio. Now this week, I'm
delighted to be joined by DanielShriver of Valley pod, as well
as cloud backup for podio. Now,Daniel is a podio partner is
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someone who is really not onlydiscovered podio, and built it,
but also started to build hisown extensions for podio. The
first one, of course, being thebackup solution, which is
available through the podiointegrations page, and I invite
you all to check it out. Buttoday, we focus in on his newest
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extension, it's something he'slaunched, and it's something
that we are bringing a specialdeal for you, you've got that
information in the podcast onthe page. And in the podcast
description. This is also one ofthose episodes where you do want
to check it out on YouTube, ifyou can, because we will be
sharing our screens, Daniel'sgonna actually dive into a bit
about how his system works, andwhat the power that valley pod
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brings to your podio system. Iwon't spoil the thunder. But
it's a really interestingconcept because it allows you to
build in quite a bit of datavalidation rule sets into your
podio ecosystem, to ensure thatyou are guiding people down the
path of making the right choicesin podio. You know, making sure
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that processes are followed,making sure that the information
that you need are done in acoherent and consistent manner
to really interesting, and wedive into that Daniel shares his
screen, he talks a little abouthow he's developed it, how he
got it into podio. And ofcourse, he's blessed us with a
bit of a discount for a system.
So I do invite you to click downin the description, check it
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out, try it out. And of course,use the code. As always, please,
please, please, please, pleaselike, subscribe to the YouTube,
like the podcast, give us areview on iTunes, Google Play,
wherever the hell you listen tothis, it really does help boost
the podcast up and make surethat more people find us and
find the power of podio. Now,we've also got a couple exciting
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things on the podcast frontcoming up. And I'm gonna be
talking about that more over thecoming weeks as we develop
supercharged to an even greaterheights. For now let's check in
on my conversation with Danielfrom Valley pod. Let's listen,
your sites all the things thatso that I can make sure that
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you're promoted and that I'mpointing people to the right
place. So first of all, likewhere are you based?
Daniel Schreiber (03:32):
I'm based in Jammu in often buses for days.
So I just moved from Frankfurtto next city. So basically, it's
Frankfurt.
Jordan Fleming (03:43):
Okay, so I was gonna say, I apologise I know
Frankfurt I don't know the
Daniel Schreiber (03:50):
little nasty sister from Frankfurt, the move
and you want to buy a house anddon't are not so rich. Yeah, you
can't
Jordan Fleming (03:57):
afford Frankfort. So you go. I totally
I totally get that. And how longhave you been using podio?
Daniel Schreiber (04:07):
I've been using podio. Since 2014. No 13
actually. So we started usingpodio when we took over small
startups, my brother friend andme. And they use folio from the
beginning. So we kind ofinherited podio for the startup.
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And he really liked it. Sobasically, everything was based
in podio. So customers, invoicesand stuff like this. And this is
how we first got to know podiobasically. And then things
evolved from there. So I was incharge of the IoT. So I built
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some custom tooling around this.
At the time. It seemed like agood idea or basically we
inherited this as well. So wehad some Java tooling to Create
PDFs and have some customprocesses, things you would
nowadays maybe do differently.
But yeah, that's that's how itstarted.
Jordan Fleming (05:11):
What was your I mean, you say you sort of
inherited it in terms of yourinitial reaction? You know, I
mean, sometimes when you inheritsystems, you're not necessarily
happy about that. What was yourinitial reaction? No, I
Daniel Schreiber (05:26):
was really happy about it. Because I mean,
of course, the UX is appealing.
So it's so it feels good, thethe Impressionists coating in
the first place. But as well,from the technical point of
view, I was really happy that wecould run our startup on it
basically, on no costs at thattime. And with no additional
infrastructure besides ourclient tooling we had, so that
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was really cool. And I reallyfind it to stay like this
because the other people alwayswant to introduce custom
databases and stuff like this.
Naomi said, No, no, no, let'ssay was podio. Because that is
manageable. And we don't spendlike much time building our
custom solutions that probablyhave more bucks and eat less
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stay within podio. So so you
Jordan Fleming (06:16):
using podio than as the sort of the back end
database for custom for customprojects, or were you building
custom podio? I can't I'm, whichI'm, maybe I'm confused.
Daniel Schreiber (06:29):
No, we use polio as a regular, regular
polio tool. So we build customapps in there. So we had a
customer app and invoice app andall the So basically, as a CRM,
mainly, I would say, but we hadsome additional tooling to
create PDFs that use the TwilioAPI to integrate. The day to day
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work was mainly in podio.
Jordan Fleming (06:53):
Church. The reason I asked and why I
immediately found thatinteresting is, I was having a
chat the other day with ourfriends at brick bridge
consulting who podio partner aswell. And they've been doing a
lot of work with Citrix andCitrix workspace and using podio
as a system of record, back enddatabase for workspace where,
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you know, essentially, insteadof having to build your own,
whatever sequel tables and, andand and and do whatever that is
to use podio like that. Yeah,this
Daniel Schreiber (07:27):
has some limitations, I would say
nowadays. I mean, when you'resmall, everything is cool and
fine. But when you have moredata and rate limits come into
place and stuff like this gets alittle bit exhausting.
Jordan Fleming (07:43):
When searched, I mean, regardless of anything
else, you know, whether theSearch API is functioning? Well,
either way, you're never goingto be able to search through a
tonne of records fast inlightning speed and podio. It's
just not it's not built forthat. It's, it's that's not it.
So what what are the sort of,you know, what do you focus on
(08:07):
Now then,
Daniel Schreiber (08:08):
like what? So basically, now I have to add on,
I build and run and founder. Sothe first started basically,
half a year after we took overthe startup, because we had the
need for a backup. At that time,2014, there was basically no
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backup available from thirdparties. So I started building
something, and I had too muchtime in that summer. So I got
too big, so I needed to make aproduct out of it. Because it
was more than just a script youcould use to have a backup. And
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this is how the cloud backupportfolio basically came into
place. And this got sometraction really fast, because of
course, other people had thesame thoughts about an
independent backup. When youhave all your data there, you're
kind of nervous. I mean, podiois pretty stable, but you want
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to make sure
Jordan Fleming (09:12):
continuity rules say you should at least have
some sort of backup.
Daniel Schreiber (09:17):
Yeah. And this is basically how we came from
using podio to buildingsolutions for podio or with
podio. And the one add on whichis running stable, as I said
since like seven years now. Ofcourse they're always new
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features, but the core productis the same. And what is really
new and what I'm excited aboutand what I like to get more
people excited about his valuepot. That's a new add on, which
was just launched. And this isan add on where you can create
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validations for your podio data.
So basically, it allows you todefine rules that your your app
should comply to, for example,combining different fields. So
when the field is empty, and theother field has some certain
values, and you want to havesome some warning, to give the
user an immediate feedback thathe might overthink if the input
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data is correct, basically.
Jordan Fleming (10:26):
Okay, but that no, now I, my memory is flooding
back. First of all, I had eitherforgotten or I wasn't completely
aware that you the backupsolution was yours. Okay, well,
as I say, you know, I mean, Ican't pretend like I'm the I'm
the most with IT guy, sometimeswith everybody the things going
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on. But I do know the solution.
So that's great. And, you know,there are in my opinion, there
are probably three big backupsolutions that I know of, for
podio. All of them do, like, youknow, I mean, all of them do the
job. But Valley pod I'm reallyinterested in understanding more
of so let's zero in on that one.
(11:08):
And and can you just give me anunderstanding, first of all
about the, you know, forget thetechnology for a second, we'll
get into that, forget what itdoes, how it works, um, business
case wise, why do I care aboutit? What What, what is the
thing, it's going to save metime, it's going to help me in
my job? Why is this an importantthing?
Daniel Schreiber (11:29):
Oh, for the user. The thing is, most people
recognise when they have morethan like a trivial app, they
realise they have some certainrules that are relating to
different fields. So forexample, when you have a
customer, you want to make surethat either the phone number or
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the email, at least the set,because the customer without any
contact doesn't make sense. Soyou find out different rules,
that could be tonnes ofexamples. And these rules you
have as a company's businessrules, and you want to make sure
that normally your data compliesto these rules, because
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otherwise, at a certain time,when you have data where you
don't have a phone number, don'thave an email, you can contact
this customer, you have aproblem, you have to dig through
emails or whatever you you don'tknow, when the problem occurred.
And the ideas that was very partyou can you can configure this
rules easily. And make themexplicit. Normally, these rules
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are communicated maybe to newemployees via an onboarding
process or something or in someword document. With this tool,
you can explicitly configurethese rules. And then this gets
built into podio. Withincomputation field, basically
right now. And this gives youimmediate feedback. So when you
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change a customer and remove thephone number, and the email
said, immediately, it shows you
Jordan Fleming (13:03):
these are the rules that you're breaking maybe
or, you know, just Just beaware, there's no
Daniel Schreiber (13:09):
for whatever the message, you can configure,
of course, the message. So youcould have a message saying,
Please set at least phone oremail, the trivial example, but
I think is very easy tounderstand. So now you have
immediate feedback. And now atthis point, you already are
working with the customer. Soit's pretty easy to fix,
probably the issue. Whereas whenyou don't have to sit back and
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it slips through. When a laterpoint in time, it's very
annoying, and you haveinconsistent data. And I think
everybody who has worked littlewith podio knows the problems
that arise from this or the timethat it's eating up. Absolutely.
Jordan Fleming (13:50):
Not, I mean, so do you? Do you see that as a Do
you see it as a developerfocused product, you fizzies as
a poet or a more like a, youdon't have to be a developer,
because you're actually bringingin those sorts of tools to
anybody who's just running apodio organisation, and wants to
make sure that, you know, staffor dealing with this scenario in
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this way, right. That's, that'sthe goal.
Daniel Schreiber (14:18):
Exactly. Of course, if you're a developer,
you can do everything by hand ina computation field, you will
make many arrows that areautomatically prevented by
configuring it. But so there arethese nine scenarios that
someone who's not so technicalto do it themselves can
configure it. So basicallyfollowing the podio idea to
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allow people with littletechnical background to create
solutions for themselves. And Ithink it's interesting as well
for for audio professionals anddevelopers because it's so much
faster to configure this andprogramming this considering all
the edge cases. So I for myself,wouldn't hand code stuff Because
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it's so much easier to configureit and as I said, you will find
many arrows in your hand codedstuff that is covered there.
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back to the podcast. Yeah, Ihave to say I'm, I wish I had, I
wish I had done a little more ofa due diligence before this
podcast episode, mainly becausewe're now doing video podcasts
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as well. And so we could havehad you share your screen, if
you've got a screen share, youcould request? Well, let's do it
then. Because people like let'sshow them a little overview of
this product. And I'd muchrather show people and that way
people can see it. If you'relistening to this on your
phones, Spotify, whatever,please do, click on the YouTube
link in the in the podcastrecording or on the podcast
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page. And I will have thisshared screen up there as well.
So take us through it take usthrough a little overview a
little bit of it of what we cansee.
Daniel Schreiber (16:49):
So basically, first you log in. So assuming
you are locked into this, youlock in the photo. So there's no
need for custom accounting, ofcourse. And then it's pretty
straightforward. So you selectan app you want to edit. So it's
all based on the app, of course,because the feedback the
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competition features in the appas well. So now let's open
something where we have alreadysome something which is
configured. So now we're in theapp deliverables. I think that
some standard podio app, andhere you can create different
validations. So here, they arealready something configured, we
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can do something new, so we canadd new validation. We can
define the message when we dothat afterwards, when we know
what we really did. So assumingwe have something, some
deliverable, which has a statusthat is equal to say in
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progress. And then we say and wecan combine all these rules with
end or or so we can make up verycomplex rules in the end, if you
like to nesting ands and ORSwith specific rules for certain
fields. So say the status is inprogress. And the owner is
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empty. For example, we don'twant to have this happen. So
everything that is progressshould have an owner. And then
the validation message, maybeit's please set owner when
status is in Nice. Okay. Well, Ihaven't made a good plan. So
this is just the
Jordan Fleming (18:36):
thing that's coming to my mind, but it makes
sense. I get it. It's like yeah,these are, you know, and how
many so use I see theirvalidation for how many
validations per app can youhave?
Daniel Schreiber (18:47):
So that depends on the plan. So
basically, we have a free planthat is, I think covering most
needs, where you can have 20validations for work for one
app. And then with the paidplans, you get like 40 or 50 I
should check it on the pricingpage. So I think that's plenty
if you have so many rules youshould consider I was gonna say
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I think
Jordan Fleming (19:10):
your your point is very valid. If you've got
that many rules, you need torethink your entire life anyway.
Daniel Schreiber (19:17):
So it's true so and then you can combine this
even further you can say okay,let's say we have some other
case. Now I'm running out ofideas for a second set the
status and progress or budget ishigh. So we can say no, maybe
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not globally, or we say thestatus is in progress or the
budget is say greater thanwhatever. 10k
Jordan Fleming (19:54):
I was gonna say the you know, the initial thing
use case that I thought of whenyou started talking about This
was not like, I agree with you,when you say you know that,
like, does it have a contactdetail? Yeah, that's an easy one
obvious one, I was thinkingmore. I've got a number of
clients who are in theengineering or field study,
where they're providingrelatively rapid quotes around
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margins or anything like that.
And to be able to be like, Look,we need to make sure our margins
are here. And if they're not, wewant to like flag because a lot
of times you'll see sales guysundercutting the margins, just
because it's easy for them to doit. And then they kind of have
this opinion, like, I'll do it.
And I'll say, Sorry, but atleast I've got the gig. Whereas
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this sort of makes it like, Hey,we did tell you. That's what
went into my head, I like it,
Daniel Schreiber (20:46):
that's a really good case, to make sure
people really immediately seewhat they're doing and cannot
pretend they didn't see. Soyeah, so you can configure like,
different rules for differentfew types. I mean, I don't want
to go into all the details,maybe here. But I think, of
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course, there's always some somemore things one could imagine
feature wise, but I think it wasalways having like all the main
main stuff. And when youconfigure this, then you can
publish this to podio. And thenthat's basically automatically
codes for you the computationfield in the background. If
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everything goes right,
Jordan Fleming (21:35):
this is how is that live like a live demo on
the spot. And now we can gostraight there.
Daniel Schreiber (21:46):
Go there and and have some test deliverable
here. And I don't know what didwe just configure? We said, they
want to have an owner. I thinkwe're in progress. So I removed
the owner, I don't know aboutthis rule. I removed this owner
and stuck here we see thevalidation showing our
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validation message, basically,
Jordan Fleming (22:09):
I like it. I like it. I like that you like
it. I like it. So that's and anddo you do you actually? So you
instal that field? Is that theonly like, are all the
validations there in essence?
Daniel Schreiber (22:32):
Yes, of course. So you can, if you want
to look your your for thedevelopers, it's of course
possible to check out thisvalidation field. But this, of
course, is some complexity. Soyour do not modify you see here.
So of course,
Jordan Fleming (22:50):
yeah. Yeah.
Well, what are we gonna do aboutthat? Sometimes? Yeah. You know
what I mean, with smartphone, weget people occasionally like
that, you know, they delete thecommunications app. And you're
like, well, I don't know whatyou expect me to tell you.
Daniel Schreiber (23:04):
Yeah. No, I mean, did you can remove the CSL
basically, you can redeploy it,and then it's there again. So
it's not totally disaster. Butyou have to think about it when
you fiddle with it. So yeah,basically, that's the core
thing. And what I really likeabout it, that it's employing
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the podium feature of thecomputation field, so it's
basically little infrastructureon our side. So that's why we
can provide this for free, thebasis basic version, and it
stays like this. So this issomething I really want to
emphasise. So it's a tool youcould use without additional
cost, basically.
Jordan Fleming (23:50):
That's I know, just out of curiosity, I mean,
you know, obviously, with your,you know, you've got another
extension as well, anotherpodio. Extension, and, and I'm
familiar with the model ofbuilding extensions off of
podio. I think it's a reallyinteresting market that not, you
know, that that podio has,that's, that's, that's quite
powerful in some ways. How haveyou, you know, do you see
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yourself kind of transitioningthe business as an extension
management or just kind of justis a part of it that you really
like as a as a side part.
Daniel Schreiber (24:28):
Currently, something in between currently,
it's the latter one. So it'ssomething of an aside. But of
course, when things really grow,it's always an option. But
personally, this is somethingwhich has some risk, because
you're totally dependent in theend on the API and polio. So
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it's not something I would spellmy complete career on. I mean, I
really trust podio and like it,but it's always kind of kind of
risky, to be really on oneplatform?
Jordan Fleming (25:02):
I Well, yeah, no, I totally understand that.
And I know what I really likethis. You know, I like this idea
of the of the value plug in, inessence for those little process
elements that also end upkilling your podio automations.
Right, because one of the one ofthe problems, like there are two
parts of this one is thebusiness element of it, which
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is, I'm running a businessprocess, I need the prisons to
function this way. I need theserules to be followed. Because if
they're not, then we're lockedin like the business. We're not
making any money or whatever.
That's definitely one bet. Butthe second bit is podio. I
thought I sometimes I thinkthat, that people sometimes
build a bit of a house of cardswith with podio. That makes
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sense where, you know, you canyou can build a automation that
is very much determined on xhappening, or y happening and
this, and these kind ofvalidations could just make sure
that those automations as well,are firing in the best possible
way, I think.
Daniel Schreiber (26:08):
Yeah, I'm not sure if I completely get what
you mean. I mean, of course,it's basically is making sure
constraints always holding true.
And I think the other part aboutthe temporal side. So event A is
after all, before event tsomething which is not covered
by the valid part, I think soyou have no notion of before and
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after you just have the currentstate and this is a valid state
or an invalid state, or compliesto some some validations. Okay,
Jordan Fleming (26:42):
yeah, no, that makes sense. So now in terms of
value pod, then it's people cango right now to Valley dash, pod
pod.io pod.io. They can goahead, set up with the fill the
free account, try it out, etc.
And then I would encouragepeople to check it out, I'll put
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the link into the podcast, anddo like, send us some feedback
about it. Because I'll behonest, I've not used it yet. I
remember it was being launched,I have I just I took a quick
look. And I just didn't get intoit. As much as I want to I will
go ahead and try it out at somepoint and give it to my team. Do
you see? I mean, just out ofcuriosity, I I 100% agree with
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you on the the dangers ofbuilding things off of
platforms. But do you see anyother interesting opportunities
as it is right now for new, youknow, as as sort of, maybe as
things are progressing inside ofthe podio ecosystem? I've always
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been on the lookout forinteresting kind of new
opportunities for extensions.
Are there anything that sort ofideas you've had that we can
chat about without giving awaysomething you're working on?
Daniel Schreiber (27:59):
No, no, I have something basically, is related
to value pot, because before inthe ideation phase, we had some
bigger idea where I realised Idon't have the resources to, to
build. So we can talk about thisbecause I think, I mean, if you
go one step further, you havethis thing's in podio. And you
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have, of course, you can do verymany things with automations.
But let's be honest, like mostorganisations, don't monitor
where we could have anautomation and stuff like this,
they just have some manualprocesses all the time. And
basically, you could have anextension, or the idea would be
to build an extension that ismonitoring all the events in
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some workspace forever. Andrecognising repeating patterns,
so you could have some machinelearning there and realise,
okay, always when the customeris set to status, add whatever,
then afterwards, we delete thecontract, or whatever. So you
could find patterns in the inthe actual usage, and then
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optimise the comment, recommendyou there to create workflows
for this or So basically, tocreate globey flows for it, that
could resolve these manualworkflows. This was something I
was thinking about. And this iskind of the same direction as
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the valley pot because thevalley pot you can at least make
sure the constraints are right.
But with this, like bigger too,you could even automatically
make sure the constraint Allright. Of course, it's some
piece of work. Yeah,
Jordan Fleming (29:45):
yeah, absolutely. Well, is the
fascinating thing. And I thinkit's, you know, I think it'd be
I'd love to maybe I'll organisea group. It's funny we I was
just speaking to some guys theother day about this This year's
podio partner conference,because we've been doing it I
was I've been running theEuropean one for the last seven
(30:07):
years or something. And we usedto do it in you, we used to do
it in Copenhagen, and then theworld stopped travelling. And
last year, we did a really funonline one, which, you know,
involved podio partners, butalso some just people who were
interested in podio and, anddevelop some, you know, users,
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which was really fun. It wouldbe great to have a little
roundtable podio extensionbrainstorm, right? Like, almost
like a hackathon type thing,where we're, we're sitting
there, I'll go get get eightpeople, and they'll need to be
much smarter than me into into achat and and really explore some
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ideas, because I'll bet youthere'd be two or three really
interesting potentials that comeout of that. And I can say, I
mean, you know, certainly as youknow, smartphone has been has
taken off and grown into a, apretty decent business now. So
there's certainly and I know,you know, I'm sure that there's
of the Twitter 20 to 40.
extensions, I guess there'sprobably a dozen of them that
(31:13):
are making decent money.
Daniel Schreiber (31:18):
I think that's a that's a great idea. Because I
think this audio add onextensions is a cool market,
because it's not a topic thatlike 100 1000s of people think
about it. But this as well, somesome neat and symmetric
customers, which are potential,cancel all your customers or
(31:41):
potential customers ofextension. So
Jordan Fleming (31:45):
interesting market in general, I think.
Absolutely, absolutely. And Ithink you, you sort of you
struck a chord there, I like theidea of maybe getting, you know,
getting a group podcasttogether, where we just dream up
ideas for some, some greatextensions, because I bet you we
could form some reallyinteresting things. I bet you
we've all got the talent todeliver them. And I do find that
(32:08):
you know, the extensions, theextensions make podio globey
flow made podio I mean, totallywithout globey flow podio. And I
totally get why why Citrix spotbut globey flow? I mean, it made
100% you know, sense, but theextensions in the ability to
(32:28):
drive the little blue box evenharder, you know, with this sort
of, you know, value pod and, youknow, the backup and all these
things, these extensions reallyprovide a lot of value. It'd be
fun to do that. I maybe I'llfloat that to a bunch of people.
And I'll let you know, maybe wecan do a podcast special
Roundtable. Sure. I would behappy to to join in with that.
(32:50):
Absolutely. I will warn you thatwe tend to do our group podcasts
in the evening European time forso that we can get all the PST
like, you know, so it's usuallyus sitting here. last group
podcast, Mike dementor. Had abut I had a beer. Sadly, I was
in the office. So I couldn't,but at least we can have a beer
or we have these sort ofpodcasts. Oh, that's good for
(33:11):
the creativity. Absolutely.
Well, listen, I first of all, Iwant to thank you so much for
coming on. Second, I want you tothank you for sharing your
screen and showing us this, Ithink it's really interesting.
And I really I recommend peopletake a look at it, the idea of
setting these sorts ofvalidations up so that your data
your processes are controlledand executed properly is a
really interesting one. And Irecommend you take a look at
(33:35):
that. I think there's somereally, really fun things about
that I will post links in thepodcast page and in the podcast
description to make sure you canget here and and really, you
know to to make sure that peopleget a chance to try it out. Um,
anything else like any otherlittle final tidbits you want
(33:57):
any any kind of closing wordsfrom yourself to round us off?
um you know, if you're on thespotlight
Daniel Schreiber (34:10):
No, I was just dreaming about creative group
sessions. But no, I have somediscount for for the premium
plan prepare for this perfect.
So if you if you have the Imean, we didn't talk about the
pricing or the pricing, okay,just to make this thing here. As
I said the, the free thingshould cover like many in most
(34:30):
cases, the paid plans, theyearly plans or monthly prices
are more appealing, I think.
It's basically if you want tohave rules for attachments, and
of course some infrastructure onour side and this is why this
needs to be covered costs for.
So if you want to have ruleslike when you have an attachment
(34:54):
with finding the PDF orsomething or With invoice or you
don't have an attachment withsome certain name, rules like
this require the paid plan andfor the premium plan, so the
standard plan is per month andorganisation premium plan is
unlimited organisations, I likeit. And for the premium plan for
(35:16):
the stand up and I cannot make agood coupon because it's not
working with the with the withthe payment integrator. So sorry
for that. So it only for thepremium plan. But with the
supercharged discount coupon,it's like 40% of well, I
Jordan Fleming (35:34):
tell you why.
Premium plan looks like a greatplan. And I will put these
details, I'll get these detailsfrom you. Make sure they're
completely clear on the web, onthe portfolio page, and on the
podcast description for it's afantastic opportunity to try it
out guys. And also the premiumplan. I will say for those of
you who aren't watching this onYouTube, although please do so
(35:57):
that you can see the screenshare and see what bipod does.
The premium plan, if I'm readingthis correctly, you can have
unlimited podio organisation. Soif you are a podio developer and
you want to make sure that youare developed, you know that
you're you're making it easierto validate to the process
you're building. That's a very,very strong plan for you.
Daniel Schreiber (36:19):
Exactly, and you can use it for the customers
organisations as well, if you'rebuilding stuff like this, I've
talked to some partners that areencoding the stuff. So you could
save some time and using thistool, I imagine or I hope I
mean, absolutely. And maybe as afinal remark, I would say that
of course, as I was launchedjust earlier this year, feedback
(36:44):
is always welcome. So when youencounter something that you
expect otherwise, or are youmissing some feature, please
reach out to me. There's somecontact here somewhere, and then
we will figure out some solutionfunds.
Jordan Fleming (37:00):
Absolutely wine and feedback. You know, I that's
one great thing as well I'vefound about the podio audience
is you're able to crowdfundcrowdsource story, feedback
very, very easily, you know,with the podio sort of
ecosystem. And and I thinkthat's great. Well, I'm excited.
I'm excited to try this out. I'mexcited to get in the hands of
(37:22):
my developers. Everyone, I willpost these links up. I will also
post the discount code thatDaniel is helpfully given us and
I encourage everyone to check itout. For now, Daniel, I want to
thank you so much. I lookforward to a group brainstorm
involving you. Thank you forshowing us value pod. I really
(37:42):
appreciate that. And I willhopefully Talk to you soon.
Daniel Schreiber (37:46):
Thanks, john was very nice talking to you and
very interesting with yourinput.
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Hey, everybody, and welcome to this week's
episode of supercharged, I'myour host, Jordan Samuel Fleming
here to talk all about the powerof workflow and automation, when
your business is powered bypodio. Now this week, I'm
delighted to be joined by DanielShriver of Valley pod, as well
as cloud backup for podio. Now,Daniel is a podio partner is
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someone who is really not onlydiscovered podio, and built it,
but also started to build hisown extensions for podio. The
first one, of course, being thebackup solution, which is
available through the podiointegrations page, and I invite
you all to check it out. Buttoday, we focus in on his newest
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extension, it's something he'slaunched, and it's something
that we are bringing a specialdeal for you, you've got that
information in the podcast onthe page. And in the podcast
description. This is also one ofthose episodes where you do want
to check it out on YouTube, ifyou can, because we will be
sharing our screens, Daniel'sgonna actually dive into a bit
about how his system works, andwhat the power that valley pod
(01:52):
brings to your podio system. Iwon't spoil the thunder. But
it's a really interestingconcept because it allows you to
build in quite a bit of datavalidation rule sets into your
podio ecosystem, to ensure thatyou are guiding people down the
path of making the right choicesin podio. You know, making sure
(02:15):
that processes are followed,making sure that the information
that you need are done in acoherent and consistent manner
to really interesting, and wedive into that Daniel shares his
screen, he talks a little abouthow he's developed it, how he
got it into podio. And ofcourse, he's blessed us with a
bit of a discount for a system.
So I do invite you to click downin the description, check it
(02:37):
out, try it out. And of course,use the code. As always, please,
please, please, please, pleaselike, subscribe to the YouTube,
like the podcast, give us areview on iTunes, Google Play,
wherever the hell you listen tothis, it really does help boost
the podcast up and make surethat more people find us and
find the power of podio. Now,we've also got a couple exciting
(03:01):
things on the podcast frontcoming up. And I'm gonna be
talking about that more over thecoming weeks as we develop
supercharged to an even greaterheights. For now let's check in
on my conversation with Danielfrom Valley pod. Let's listen,
your sites all the things thatso that I can make sure that
(03:22):
you're promoted and that I'mpointing people to the right
place. So first of all, likewhere are you based?
Daniel Schreiber (03:32):
I'm based in Jammu in often buses for days.
So I just moved from Frankfurtto next city. So basically, it's
Frankfurt.
Jordan Fleming (03:43):
Okay, so I was gonna say, I apologise I know
Frankfurt I don't know the
Daniel Schreiber (03:50):
little nasty sister from Frankfurt, the move
and you want to buy a house anddon't are not so rich. Yeah, you
can't
Jordan Fleming (03:57):
afford Frankfort. So you go. I totally
I totally get that. And how longhave you been using podio?
Daniel Schreiber (04:07):
I've been using podio. Since 2014. No 13
actually. So we started usingpodio when we took over small
startups, my brother friend andme. And they use folio from the
beginning. So we kind ofinherited podio for the startup.
(04:29):
And he really liked it. Sobasically, everything was based
in podio. So customers, invoicesand stuff like this. And this is
how we first got to know podiobasically. And then things
evolved from there. So I was incharge of the IoT. So I built
(04:50):
some custom tooling around this.
At the time. It seemed like agood idea or basically we
inherited this as well. So wehad some Java tooling to Create
PDFs and have some customprocesses, things you would
nowadays maybe do differently.
But yeah, that's that's how itstarted.
Jordan Fleming (05:11):
What was your I mean, you say you sort of
inherited it in terms of yourinitial reaction? You know, I
mean, sometimes when you inheritsystems, you're not necessarily
happy about that. What was yourinitial reaction? No, I
Daniel Schreiber (05:26):
was really happy about it. Because I mean,
of course, the UX is appealing.
So it's so it feels good, thethe Impressionists coating in
the first place. But as well,from the technical point of
view, I was really happy that wecould run our startup on it
basically, on no costs at thattime. And with no additional
infrastructure besides ourclient tooling we had, so that
(05:50):
was really cool. And I reallyfind it to stay like this
because the other people alwayswant to introduce custom
databases and stuff like this.
Naomi said, No, no, no, let'ssay was podio. Because that is
manageable. And we don't spendlike much time building our
custom solutions that probablyhave more bucks and eat less
(06:14):
stay within podio. So so you
Jordan Fleming (06:16):
using podio than as the sort of the back end
database for custom for customprojects, or were you building
custom podio? I can't I'm, whichI'm, maybe I'm confused.
Daniel Schreiber (06:29):
No, we use polio as a regular, regular
polio tool. So we build customapps in there. So we had a
customer app and invoice app andall the So basically, as a CRM,
mainly, I would say, but we hadsome additional tooling to
create PDFs that use the TwilioAPI to integrate. The day to day
(06:51):
work was mainly in podio.
Jordan Fleming (06:53):
Church. The reason I asked and why I
immediately found thatinteresting is, I was having a
chat the other day with ourfriends at brick bridge
consulting who podio partner aswell. And they've been doing a
lot of work with Citrix andCitrix workspace and using podio
as a system of record, back enddatabase for workspace where,
(07:17):
you know, essentially, insteadof having to build your own,
whatever sequel tables and, andand and and do whatever that is
to use podio like that. Yeah,this
Daniel Schreiber (07:27):
has some limitations, I would say
nowadays. I mean, when you'resmall, everything is cool and
fine. But when you have moredata and rate limits come into
place and stuff like this gets alittle bit exhausting.
Jordan Fleming (07:43):
When searched, I mean, regardless of anything
else, you know, whether theSearch API is functioning? Well,
either way, you're never goingto be able to search through a
tonne of records fast inlightning speed and podio. It's
just not it's not built forthat. It's, it's that's not it.
So what what are the sort of,you know, what do you focus on
(08:07):
Now then,
Daniel Schreiber (08:08):
like what? So basically, now I have to add on,
I build and run and founder. Sothe first started basically,
half a year after we took overthe startup, because we had the
need for a backup. At that time,2014, there was basically no
(08:29):
backup available from thirdparties. So I started building
something, and I had too muchtime in that summer. So I got
too big, so I needed to make aproduct out of it. Because it
was more than just a script youcould use to have a backup. And
(08:50):
this is how the cloud backupportfolio basically came into
place. And this got sometraction really fast, because of
course, other people had thesame thoughts about an
independent backup. When youhave all your data there, you're
kind of nervous. I mean, podiois pretty stable, but you want
(09:11):
to make sure
Jordan Fleming (09:12):
continuity rules say you should at least have
some sort of backup.
Daniel Schreiber (09:17):
Yeah. And this is basically how we came from
using podio to buildingsolutions for podio or with
podio. And the one add on whichis running stable, as I said
since like seven years now. Ofcourse they're always new
(09:38):
features, but the core productis the same. And what is really
new and what I'm excited aboutand what I like to get more
people excited about his valuepot. That's a new add on, which
was just launched. And this isan add on where you can create
(10:00):
validations for your podio data.
So basically, it allows you todefine rules that your your app
should comply to, for example,combining different fields. So
when the field is empty, and theother field has some certain
values, and you want to havesome some warning, to give the
user an immediate feedback thathe might overthink if the input
(10:22):
data is correct, basically.
Jordan Fleming (10:26):
Okay, but that no, now I, my memory is flooding
back. First of all, I had eitherforgotten or I wasn't completely
aware that you the backupsolution was yours. Okay, well,
as I say, you know, I mean, Ican't pretend like I'm the I'm
the most with IT guy, sometimeswith everybody the things going
(10:47):
on. But I do know the solution.
So that's great. And, you know,there are in my opinion, there
are probably three big backupsolutions that I know of, for
podio. All of them do, like, youknow, I mean, all of them do the
job. But Valley pod I'm reallyinterested in understanding more
of so let's zero in on that one.
(11:08):
And and can you just give me anunderstanding, first of all
about the, you know, forget thetechnology for a second, we'll
get into that, forget what itdoes, how it works, um, business
case wise, why do I care aboutit? What What, what is the
thing, it's going to save metime, it's going to help me in
my job? Why is this an importantthing?
Daniel Schreiber (11:29):
Oh, for the user. The thing is, most people
recognise when they have morethan like a trivial app, they
realise they have some certainrules that are relating to
different fields. So forexample, when you have a
customer, you want to make surethat either the phone number or
(11:50):
the email, at least the set,because the customer without any
contact doesn't make sense. Soyou find out different rules,
that could be tonnes ofexamples. And these rules you
have as a company's businessrules, and you want to make sure
that normally your data compliesto these rules, because
(12:11):
otherwise, at a certain time,when you have data where you
don't have a phone number, don'thave an email, you can contact
this customer, you have aproblem, you have to dig through
emails or whatever you you don'tknow, when the problem occurred.
And the ideas that was very partyou can you can configure this
rules easily. And make themexplicit. Normally, these rules
(12:35):
are communicated maybe to newemployees via an onboarding
process or something or in someword document. With this tool,
you can explicitly configurethese rules. And then this gets
built into podio. Withincomputation field, basically
right now. And this gives youimmediate feedback. So when you
(12:57):
change a customer and remove thephone number, and the email
said, immediately, it shows you
Jordan Fleming (13:03):
these are the rules that you're breaking maybe
or, you know, just Just beaware, there's no
Daniel Schreiber (13:09):
for whatever the message, you can configure,
of course, the message. So youcould have a message saying,
Please set at least phone oremail, the trivial example, but
I think is very easy tounderstand. So now you have
immediate feedback. And now atthis point, you already are
working with the customer. Soit's pretty easy to fix,
probably the issue. Whereas whenyou don't have to sit back and
(13:32):
it slips through. When a laterpoint in time, it's very
annoying, and you haveinconsistent data. And I think
everybody who has worked littlewith podio knows the problems
that arise from this or the timethat it's eating up. Absolutely.
Jordan Fleming (13:50):
Not, I mean, so do you? Do you see that as a Do
you see it as a developerfocused product, you fizzies as
a poet or a more like a, youdon't have to be a developer,
because you're actually bringingin those sorts of tools to
anybody who's just running apodio organisation, and wants to
make sure that, you know, staffor dealing with this scenario in
(14:15):
this way, right. That's, that'sthe goal.
Daniel Schreiber (14:18):
Exactly. Of course, if you're a developer,
you can do everything by hand ina computation field, you will
make many arrows that areautomatically prevented by
configuring it. But so there arethese nine scenarios that
someone who's not so technicalto do it themselves can
configure it. So basicallyfollowing the podio idea to
(14:39):
allow people with littletechnical background to create
solutions for themselves. And Ithink it's interesting as well
for for audio professionals anddevelopers because it's so much
faster to configure this andprogramming this considering all
the edge cases. So I for myself,wouldn't hand code stuff Because
(15:00):
it's so much easier to configureit and as I said, you will find
many arrows in your hand codedstuff that is covered there.
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back to the podcast. Yeah, Ihave to say I'm, I wish I had, I
wish I had done a little more ofa due diligence before this
podcast episode, mainly becausewe're now doing video podcasts
(16:15):
as well. And so we could havehad you share your screen, if
you've got a screen share, youcould request? Well, let's do it
then. Because people like let'sshow them a little overview of
this product. And I'd muchrather show people and that way
people can see it. If you'relistening to this on your
phones, Spotify, whatever,please do, click on the YouTube
link in the in the podcastrecording or on the podcast
(16:40):
page. And I will have thisshared screen up there as well.
So take us through it take usthrough a little overview a
little bit of it of what we cansee.
Daniel Schreiber (16:49):
So basically, first you log in. So assuming
you are locked into this, youlock in the photo. So there's no
need for custom accounting, ofcourse. And then it's pretty
straightforward. So you selectan app you want to edit. So it's
all based on the app, of course,because the feedback the
(17:11):
competition features in the appas well. So now let's open
something where we have alreadysome something which is
configured. So now we're in theapp deliverables. I think that
some standard podio app, andhere you can create different
validations. So here, they arealready something configured, we
(17:34):
can do something new, so we canadd new validation. We can
define the message when we dothat afterwards, when we know
what we really did. So assumingwe have something, some
deliverable, which has a statusthat is equal to say in
(17:55):
progress. And then we say and wecan combine all these rules with
end or or so we can make up verycomplex rules in the end, if you
like to nesting ands and ORSwith specific rules for certain
fields. So say the status is inprogress. And the owner is
(18:16):
empty. For example, we don'twant to have this happen. So
everything that is progressshould have an owner. And then
the validation message, maybeit's please set owner when
status is in Nice. Okay. Well, Ihaven't made a good plan. So
this is just the
Jordan Fleming (18:36):
thing that's coming to my mind, but it makes
sense. I get it. It's like yeah,these are, you know, and how
many so use I see theirvalidation for how many
validations per app can youhave?
Daniel Schreiber (18:47):
So that depends on the plan. So
basically, we have a free planthat is, I think covering most
needs, where you can have 20validations for work for one
app. And then with the paidplans, you get like 40 or 50 I
should check it on the pricingpage. So I think that's plenty
if you have so many rules youshould consider I was gonna say
(19:09):
I think
Jordan Fleming (19:10):
your your point is very valid. If you've got
that many rules, you need torethink your entire life anyway.
Daniel Schreiber (19:17):
So it's true so and then you can combine this
even further you can say okay,let's say we have some other
case. Now I'm running out ofideas for a second set the
status and progress or budget ishigh. So we can say no, maybe
(19:42):
not globally, or we say thestatus is in progress or the
budget is say greater thanwhatever. 10k
Jordan Fleming (19:54):
I was gonna say the you know, the initial thing
use case that I thought of whenyou started talking about This
was not like, I agree with you,when you say you know that,
like, does it have a contactdetail? Yeah, that's an easy one
obvious one, I was thinkingmore. I've got a number of
clients who are in theengineering or field study,
where they're providingrelatively rapid quotes around
(20:17):
margins or anything like that.
And to be able to be like, Look,we need to make sure our margins
are here. And if they're not, wewant to like flag because a lot
of times you'll see sales guysundercutting the margins, just
because it's easy for them to doit. And then they kind of have
this opinion, like, I'll do it.
And I'll say, Sorry, but atleast I've got the gig. Whereas
(20:40):
this sort of makes it like, Hey,we did tell you. That's what
went into my head, I like it,
Daniel Schreiber (20:46):
that's a really good case, to make sure
people really immediately seewhat they're doing and cannot
pretend they didn't see. Soyeah, so you can configure like,
different rules for differentfew types. I mean, I don't want
to go into all the details,maybe here. But I think, of
(21:10):
course, there's always some somemore things one could imagine
feature wise, but I think it wasalways having like all the main
main stuff. And when youconfigure this, then you can
publish this to podio. And thenthat's basically automatically
codes for you the computationfield in the background. If
(21:33):
everything goes right,
Jordan Fleming (21:35):
this is how is that live like a live demo on
the spot. And now we can gostraight there.
Daniel Schreiber (21:46):
Go there and and have some test deliverable
here. And I don't know what didwe just configure? We said, they
want to have an owner. I thinkwe're in progress. So I removed
the owner, I don't know aboutthis rule. I removed this owner
and stuck here we see thevalidation showing our
(22:07):
validation message, basically,
Jordan Fleming (22:09):
I like it. I like it. I like that you like
it. I like it. So that's and anddo you do you actually? So you
instal that field? Is that theonly like, are all the
validations there in essence?
Daniel Schreiber (22:32):
Yes, of course. So you can, if you want
to look your your for thedevelopers, it's of course
possible to check out thisvalidation field. But this, of
course, is some complexity. Soyour do not modify you see here.
So of course,
Jordan Fleming (22:50):
yeah. Yeah.
Well, what are we gonna do aboutthat? Sometimes? Yeah. You know
what I mean, with smartphone, weget people occasionally like
that, you know, they delete thecommunications app. And you're
like, well, I don't know whatyou expect me to tell you.
Daniel Schreiber (23:04):
Yeah. No, I mean, did you can remove the CSL
basically, you can redeploy it,and then it's there again. So
it's not totally disaster. Butyou have to think about it when
you fiddle with it. So yeah,basically, that's the core
thing. And what I really likeabout it, that it's employing
(23:29):
the podium feature of thecomputation field, so it's
basically little infrastructureon our side. So that's why we
can provide this for free, thebasis basic version, and it
stays like this. So this issomething I really want to
emphasise. So it's a tool youcould use without additional
cost, basically.
Jordan Fleming (23:50):
That's I know, just out of curiosity, I mean,
you know, obviously, with your,you know, you've got another
extension as well, anotherpodio. Extension, and, and I'm
familiar with the model ofbuilding extensions off of
podio. I think it's a reallyinteresting market that not, you
know, that that podio has,that's, that's, that's quite
powerful in some ways. How haveyou, you know, do you see
(24:16):
yourself kind of transitioningthe business as an extension
management or just kind of justis a part of it that you really
like as a as a side part.
Daniel Schreiber (24:28):
Currently, something in between currently,
it's the latter one. So it'ssomething of an aside. But of
course, when things really grow,it's always an option. But
personally, this is somethingwhich has some risk, because
you're totally dependent in theend on the API and polio. So
(24:48):
it's not something I would spellmy complete career on. I mean, I
really trust podio and like it,but it's always kind of kind of
risky, to be really on oneplatform?
Jordan Fleming (25:02):
I Well, yeah, no, I totally understand that.
And I know what I really likethis. You know, I like this idea
of the of the value plug in, inessence for those little process
elements that also end upkilling your podio automations.
Right, because one of the one ofthe problems, like there are two
parts of this one is thebusiness element of it, which
(25:25):
is, I'm running a businessprocess, I need the prisons to
function this way. I need theserules to be followed. Because if
they're not, then we're lockedin like the business. We're not
making any money or whatever.
That's definitely one bet. Butthe second bit is podio. I
thought I sometimes I thinkthat, that people sometimes
build a bit of a house of cardswith with podio. That makes
(25:46):
sense where, you know, you canyou can build a automation that
is very much determined on xhappening, or y happening and
this, and these kind ofvalidations could just make sure
that those automations as well,are firing in the best possible
way, I think.
Daniel Schreiber (26:08):
Yeah, I'm not sure if I completely get what
you mean. I mean, of course,it's basically is making sure
constraints always holding true.
And I think the other part aboutthe temporal side. So event A is
after all, before event tsomething which is not covered
by the valid part, I think soyou have no notion of before and
(26:30):
after you just have the currentstate and this is a valid state
or an invalid state, or compliesto some some validations. Okay,
Jordan Fleming (26:42):
yeah, no, that makes sense. So now in terms of
value pod, then it's people cango right now to Valley dash, pod
pod.io pod.io. They can goahead, set up with the fill the
free account, try it out, etc.
And then I would encouragepeople to check it out, I'll put
(27:03):
the link into the podcast, anddo like, send us some feedback
about it. Because I'll behonest, I've not used it yet. I
remember it was being launched,I have I just I took a quick
look. And I just didn't get intoit. As much as I want to I will
go ahead and try it out at somepoint and give it to my team. Do
you see? I mean, just out ofcuriosity, I I 100% agree with
(27:24):
you on the the dangers ofbuilding things off of
platforms. But do you see anyother interesting opportunities
as it is right now for new, youknow, as as sort of, maybe as
things are progressing inside ofthe podio ecosystem? I've always
(27:44):
been on the lookout forinteresting kind of new
opportunities for extensions.
Are there anything that sort ofideas you've had that we can
chat about without giving awaysomething you're working on?
Daniel Schreiber (27:59):
No, no, I have something basically, is related
to value pot, because before inthe ideation phase, we had some
bigger idea where I realised Idon't have the resources to, to
build. So we can talk about thisbecause I think, I mean, if you
go one step further, you havethis thing's in podio. And you
(28:24):
have, of course, you can do verymany things with automations.
But let's be honest, like mostorganisations, don't monitor
where we could have anautomation and stuff like this,
they just have some manualprocesses all the time. And
basically, you could have anextension, or the idea would be
to build an extension that ismonitoring all the events in
(28:47):
some workspace forever. Andrecognising repeating patterns,
so you could have some machinelearning there and realise,
okay, always when the customeris set to status, add whatever,
then afterwards, we delete thecontract, or whatever. So you
could find patterns in the inthe actual usage, and then
(29:10):
optimise the comment, recommendyou there to create workflows
for this or So basically, tocreate globey flows for it, that
could resolve these manualworkflows. This was something I
was thinking about. And this iskind of the same direction as
(29:31):
the valley pot because thevalley pot you can at least make
sure the constraints are right.
But with this, like bigger too,you could even automatically
make sure the constraint Allright. Of course, it's some
piece of work. Yeah,
Jordan Fleming (29:45):
yeah, absolutely. Well, is the
fascinating thing. And I thinkit's, you know, I think it'd be
I'd love to maybe I'll organisea group. It's funny we I was
just speaking to some guys theother day about this This year's
podio partner conference,because we've been doing it I
was I've been running theEuropean one for the last seven
(30:07):
years or something. And we usedto do it in you, we used to do
it in Copenhagen, and then theworld stopped travelling. And
last year, we did a really funonline one, which, you know,
involved podio partners, butalso some just people who were
interested in podio and, anddevelop some, you know, users,
(30:30):
which was really fun. It wouldbe great to have a little
roundtable podio extensionbrainstorm, right? Like, almost
like a hackathon type thing,where we're, we're sitting
there, I'll go get get eightpeople, and they'll need to be
much smarter than me into into achat and and really explore some
(30:50):
ideas, because I'll bet youthere'd be two or three really
interesting potentials that comeout of that. And I can say, I
mean, you know, certainly as youknow, smartphone has been has
taken off and grown into a, apretty decent business now. So
there's certainly and I know,you know, I'm sure that there's
of the Twitter 20 to 40.
extensions, I guess there'sprobably a dozen of them that
(31:13):
are making decent money.
Daniel Schreiber (31:18):
I think that's a that's a great idea. Because I
think this audio add onextensions is a cool market,
because it's not a topic thatlike 100 1000s of people think
about it. But this as well, somesome neat and symmetric
customers, which are potential,cancel all your customers or
(31:41):
potential customers ofextension. So
Jordan Fleming (31:45):
interesting market in general, I think.
Absolutely, absolutely. And Ithink you, you sort of you
struck a chord there, I like theidea of maybe getting, you know,
getting a group podcasttogether, where we just dream up
ideas for some, some greatextensions, because I bet you we
could form some reallyinteresting things. I bet you
we've all got the talent todeliver them. And I do find that
(32:08):
you know, the extensions, theextensions make podio globey
flow made podio I mean, totallywithout globey flow podio. And I
totally get why why Citrix spotbut globey flow? I mean, it made
100% you know, sense, but theextensions in the ability to
(32:28):
drive the little blue box evenharder, you know, with this sort
of, you know, value pod and, youknow, the backup and all these
things, these extensions reallyprovide a lot of value. It'd be
fun to do that. I maybe I'llfloat that to a bunch of people.
And I'll let you know, maybe wecan do a podcast special
Roundtable. Sure. I would behappy to to join in with that.
(32:50):
Absolutely. I will warn you thatwe tend to do our group podcasts
in the evening European time forso that we can get all the PST
like, you know, so it's usuallyus sitting here. last group
podcast, Mike dementor. Had abut I had a beer. Sadly, I was
in the office. So I couldn't,but at least we can have a beer
or we have these sort ofpodcasts. Oh, that's good for
(33:11):
the creativity. Absolutely.
Well, listen, I first of all, Iwant to thank you so much for
coming on. Second, I want you tothank you for sharing your
screen and showing us this, Ithink it's really interesting.
And I really I recommend peopletake a look at it, the idea of
setting these sorts ofvalidations up so that your data
your processes are controlledand executed properly is a
really interesting one. And Irecommend you take a look at
(33:35):
that. I think there's somereally, really fun things about
that I will post links in thepodcast page and in the podcast
description to make sure you canget here and and really, you
know to to make sure that peopleget a chance to try it out. Um,
anything else like any otherlittle final tidbits you want
(33:57):
any any kind of closing wordsfrom yourself to round us off?
um you know, if you're on thespotlight
Daniel Schreiber (34:10):
No, I was just dreaming about creative group
sessions. But no, I have somediscount for for the premium
plan prepare for this perfect.
So if you if you have the Imean, we didn't talk about the
pricing or the pricing, okay,just to make this thing here. As
I said the, the free thingshould cover like many in most
(34:30):
cases, the paid plans, theyearly plans or monthly prices
are more appealing, I think.
It's basically if you want tohave rules for attachments, and
of course some infrastructure onour side and this is why this
needs to be covered costs for.
So if you want to have ruleslike when you have an attachment
(34:54):
with finding the PDF orsomething or With invoice or you
don't have an attachment withsome certain name, rules like
this require the paid plan andfor the premium plan, so the
standard plan is per month andorganisation premium plan is
unlimited organisations, I likeit. And for the premium plan for
(35:16):
the stand up and I cannot make agood coupon because it's not
working with the with the withthe payment integrator. So sorry
for that. So it only for thepremium plan. But with the
supercharged discount coupon,it's like 40% of well, I
Jordan Fleming (35:34):
tell you why.
Premium plan looks like a greatplan. And I will put these
details, I'll get these detailsfrom you. Make sure they're
completely clear on the web, onthe portfolio page, and on the
podcast description for it's afantastic opportunity to try it
out guys. And also the premiumplan. I will say for those of
you who aren't watching this onYouTube, although please do so
(35:57):
that you can see the screenshare and see what bipod does.
The premium plan, if I'm readingthis correctly, you can have
unlimited podio organisation. Soif you are a podio developer and
you want to make sure that youare developed, you know that
you're you're making it easierto validate to the process
you're building. That's a very,very strong plan for you.
Daniel Schreiber (36:19):
Exactly, and you can use it for the customers
organisations as well, if you'rebuilding stuff like this, I've
talked to some partners that areencoding the stuff. So you could
save some time and using thistool, I imagine or I hope I
mean, absolutely. And maybe as afinal remark, I would say that
of course, as I was launchedjust earlier this year, feedback
(36:44):
is always welcome. So when youencounter something that you
expect otherwise, or are youmissing some feature, please
reach out to me. There's somecontact here somewhere, and then
we will figure out some solutionfunds.
Jordan Fleming (37:00):
Absolutely wine and feedback. You know, I that's
one great thing as well I'vefound about the podio audience
is you're able to crowdfundcrowdsource story, feedback
very, very easily, you know,with the podio sort of
ecosystem. And and I thinkthat's great. Well, I'm excited.
I'm excited to try this out. I'mexcited to get in the hands of
(37:22):
my developers. Everyone, I willpost these links up. I will also
post the discount code thatDaniel is helpfully given us and
I encourage everyone to check itout. For now, Daniel, I want to
thank you so much. I lookforward to a group brainstorm
involving you. Thank you forshowing us value pod. I really
(37:42):
appreciate that. And I willhopefully Talk to you soon.
Daniel Schreiber (37:46):
Thanks, john was very nice talking to you and
very interesting with yourinput.
Narrator (37:52):
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