April 11, 2025 • 34 mins
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4/19/25 - The Abrego Garcia Deportation Case Is #1
STORIES
- Trump Tariffs/U.S. vs China
- Financial Markets Activity/Recession Fears
- Deportations- Detentions-Visa Revocations
- SCOTUS Gangsters Ruling
- DOGE/Universities Funding Freeze
- U.S.-Iran Nuclear Talks
- Russia-Ukraine War/Israel-Gaza War
- Bernie Sanders Rallies-CNN Town Hall-“Hands Off” Protests
- HHS Job Cuts/Health Care/Vaccines
- Severe Weather in Mid-South/NCAA Hoops Championships
- Donald Trump
- J.D. Vance
- Elon Musk
- Howard Lutnick / Scott Bessent
- Xi Jinping
- Benjamin Netanyahu
- Vladimir Putin
- Kilmar Abrego Garcia
- RFK Jr.
- Karoline Leavitt
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Don't stop talk. You'll hear us speak well, don't stop
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radio pronouncers. Here on the talk radio Countdown show. I'm
Doug Stephan along with Michael Harrison, who's the editor and
publisher of Talker's Magazine. Here to go through the charts
from this week, the week of April the seventh to
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the eleventh, as we go through the stories of the
top ten items being discussed according to the research done
by the folks at Talkers Magazine. You can find these
charts at talkers dot com the people list as well.
And to hear Michael Harrison arrives on the scene to
go through these lists and to begin our discussion of
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whatever it is, whoever's going to take over the world.
We're going to have a world takeover soon. Who knows
who will be the leader? We'll find our best material.
How are we to discuss? And so Michael, let's start
with really good stuff.
Speaker 5 (02:17):
Of course, the question is can anybody ever take over
the world?
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Will who wants to do it? Right?
Speaker 5 (02:25):
At number ten, we have severe weather in the mid
South and we have had that thing called March madness
turn into April madness. The NCAA hoops college basketball kind
of exciting at number nine. The HHS job cuts tied
with healthcare and vaccines. At number eight, we've got Bernie
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Sanders running around rallying, and there was the CNN town
hall that he participated in, and we call some of
these events hands off protests. Number seven, we have collectively
the Russia Ukraine War and the Israel Ilgaza War. At
number six, we have the US Iran nuclear talks and
number five DOGE and all of its many activities, along
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with universities funding freeze at four, scotus A Supreme Court
and its gangsters ruling at number three, deportations, detentions, visa
revocations at number two. The financial markets activity and recession
fears up and down like a roller coaster. Instability is
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the keyword, and number one ties right in, of course,
the Trump tariffs and the US versus China in a
trade war between the superpower economies. On our people survey,
we have the eppervescent enunciator Caroline Levitt at number ten,
RFK Junior at nine, Kilmar Abrigo Garcia at eight, Vladimir
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Putin at seven, Benjamin and Yahoo at six, XI Champaign five,
Howard Lutnick and Scott bessantent.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
You think I would have it because we talked about
it at number.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
Four, Elon Musk at three, JD. Vans at two, Donald
Trump at one. And that is a reasonable photograph of
a lot of moving, moving subjects and changing changing stories.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Okay, So looking at the people this and listening to
you pronounce some of these names, it comes to me
that we have lots of people that are either not
Americans outside America, because as with the global economy, there
is a global news focus as well. It's not what
happened in your backyard or what happened in your town,
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or maybe even in your city or state. It's what
is happening in America and China and Japan and Iran
and Russia and Ukraine. Remember when we were kids, well
when remembering when I first started to do doing talk radio,
or first started to be on the radio as a teenager,
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the focus was on what was going on next door,
what was the what was the big deal with a
big the price break you'd get by going to the
local hardware store, Right, I remember that when I was
doing mornings on the Little w TTF and Tiff and Ohio. Yeah,
we had we had special focus on Fridays as to
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what you could get for a deal to help you
garden at this time of year. And that was I
remember spending five six minutes sometimes on that stuff.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
No more, no more. So I'm not sure.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
I'm not sure what your point was, but I do
think that it hasn't changed that much. I see it
differently than you. First, First of all, a lot of
these foreign names are very American names. We've always had
foreign names in this country. I don't know that we
could call certain names American names and other names aign name.
So I don't buy into that sole let us be
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separated on that.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
On that point, well, I don't know if I'm being prejudicial.
I'm just making an observation that in my neighborhood there
was John Smith, and there was Ralph Thomas, and there
was Billy Williams. And yeah, I mean, I think it's
an observation that people make, whether it sounds politically correct
or not, or whether it really is correct. We have
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at this time. Yes, in our country, there is a
great homogenization of people in backgrounds that wasn't so obvious
when we I'm not sure that it even was going
on when we were younger. We've encouraged people to come here,
hopefully legitimately. That's been one of the issues. And speaking
about that the Supreme Court this week, I told the
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President that he was wrong and that person that got
offed and didn't get off. But they get set away
I shouldn't have been done. And the thing that I
don't understand is why they fought so hard to keep
the guy who obviously was wrongly set away, to keep
them from coming back. That was more astounding than anything
else about that story. I thought, what did you think, Michael.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
I wasn't sure.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
I think they fell into a into a pile of
you know what and not have a They didn't have
an immediate means of bringing him back, and and thought
maybe they could just you know, lose it in the shuffle,
but they couldn't. There was too much attention paid, so
they had to do something about it. Now, I just
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think that it was part of the slip shod way
in which the whole thing was handled to begin with.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Has everything that happened since Trump became president been handled
in a slip shod way.
Speaker 5 (07:42):
Unless he's some type of a of a genius and
has a method to his madness. It appears that there
is a great amount of slip shot, if you will,
attached to the way they carry.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Out their functions.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
Yeah, there's a there's a there's a degree of playing
it today by the sea of pants.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Okay, that does the work. Let's try this.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
There's this underlying feeling in the Trump administration and in
Trump World that it's all about trusting Trump and his instincts.
That it has nothing to do with meetings with experts,
with plans, with strategy. It's about Okay, what does he
think we should do?
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Now?
Speaker 5 (08:22):
Uh? That that that that this man is somehow Uh
he has some kind of magic in him, that he's
the only one who can work our way through these
issues that in many cases he created. He creates the
problem that he and he fixes them for you. H
(08:42):
I don't he does that. That's a technique. Yeah, it's
a technique. And so so now I I think that
it comes down to the people that love Trump just
want to believe in him. And you know what's he
thinking this hour?
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Of course?
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Why why do people love him? He doesn't even have
any close friends. Why do people love this guy? So
what is there? What's the magic here in his presentation
and his being? And he's obviously taking it all in,
and you know, he's believing the press in a manner
of speaking of the press from people who like him.
It's just is extraordinary for me in anybody. I think
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a lot of people look at objectively. I think there
are a lot of good things that he's doing. I
make no mistake about that. I think there's a lot
of stuff being done that needs to be done. But
the other side of it is that he's so obtuse
about it. And maybe that's what makes it. This all
an interesting, you know, scenario for us to be painting
and talking about. So one of the things that was
football this week, I think, is the story of the
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stock market plunge. One day up, the next day down,
and the tariff numbers were the same. You know, we're
going to have thirty four percent with China. Now it's
one hundred and forty five percent, and they're going to
chop us for one hundred and two. And so the
news media for the most part, playing on fear. Look
(10:06):
at all the stories and what the essence, what the
meat is here? It's all about fear and how does
that affecting our health? I wonder about that is an
aside one of the stories that isn't here. How does
this affect our stress level?
Speaker 5 (10:21):
And our people are stress? People are true, and people
are very stressed. I think that they're for when k's
are drying up, where their retirement funds are gone, or
their little nest eggs and the stock market are gone.
This this is not something that is fun. This is
such a connection between a person's financial health and their
(10:45):
biological health. So I think that you're absolutely right. I
think that stress is at a relatively recent high, and
people are people who know are feeling very good.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Yeah, no, it is. It's kind of all over the place,
and there's little room, by the way for other things
that are going on.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
You know.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
There's sort of a subtle not maybe it depends on
who you talk to, subtle concern about the government, the FAA,
whether we have enough skytrackers, if you will. The people
who work in the airport as protectors of our safety,
watching planes come in and out, and they see what
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happened with the helicopter crash in New York. I don't
think that had anything to do with the FAA, but
the situation in Washington or a couple of near misses again,
you know, that kind of stuff upsets people too. And
then they look and say, wait a minute, do we
have enough traffic air traffic controllers there? And what's going
on with that? And you know, it's just everything exploding.
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And then there are a lot of things here that
we're talking about that are tied together for sure, around
the President Trump. We continue whether our news talk radio overview.
It's the time radio Countdown show.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
We're counting down what America is talking about. The talk
radio Countdown Show continues.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Talk Radio Countdown. All right, so we're back at it here.
You know, one of the things that seemed to lighten
a load, depending on how you look at all of
the things going on. The number six story this week
is a focus on the nuclear side of the coin,
where they're on Trump's always talked tough about that, and
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there are a lot of reasons to believe that during
the last administration, those folks booted it by giving you
around back their six billion dollars that we had sort
of incarcerated, if you will. So now we're kind of
pushing them to the table as we're pushing a lot
of See, this is a good side of it if
you analyze all these people where we had. The legitimate
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side of what Trump is saying is that we have
been screwed for years and we didn't even know it.
I don't think most people thought about the tariffs and
what they cost us. So whether this approach is going
to work or not, he's got the hammer and he's
got the velvet glove, and getting Iran back to the
table is another one of these things. People were very
(13:21):
concerned and still are because Ukraine is very d I mean,
Iran's very dangerous. So did we get enough? Is that
a good story, Michael? Is that something that we should
be pleased about.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
Anything having to do with nuclear war and arms is important,
of course, and yes they are dangerous. As for whether
or not we've been screwed by all these countries, that's
an arguable point. That's a that is not a given.
That's one of the points that is under scrutiny. Whether
Trump is just drumming all this stuff up, and that
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the United States has been the most successful economy and
one of the most powerful countries in the world, and
nobody here is getting screwed. It's just a it's just
a matter of competition. So one of the problems with
Trump is he sees competition as being evil just because
it dares to compete with him. But I don't think
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it's a given, Doug, that the United States has been screwed.
You even said we didn't even know it. Maybe we
didn't know it. Maybe we weren't getting screwed.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Well, maybe I'm looking at different stuff and some of
these things that we've taken for granted over the years.
Maybe it's maybe the better way to put it is
we didn't know what was going on with these tariffs
and how it affected what we paid for anything and everything.
Because of this global economy that the United States sort
of started, we've had it very good here, most powerful
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country in the history of the world, most economically significantly
successful country in the history of the world. And so
you know, we we have allowed ourselves, depending on who
was in charge, to maybe help other people out. Maybe
that's the way I'm looking at it.
Speaker 5 (15:05):
So, so you're basically thinking that helping other people out
is not a good idea.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
No, I didn't say that I didn't say that at all.
I'm just saying that what we are doing now is
protecting ourselves and not necessarily thinking about the other guy.
There are a lot of people who live their lives
helping other people, thinking about other people first, and the
United States maybe has done a lot of that because
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we could afford to. I remember having conversations with one
of the people in my family about, you know, what
our obligation is as the richest power, We're supposed to
bring these people in from other countries and help them.
So some people think and whether it is, I think
it is to a point, but I didn't think. You know,
and this is what Trump touched on pretty significantly successfully
(15:53):
and rightfully, so that there are all kinds of people
wandering around in this country that we've let in that
are not good for our and so you know, whether
he's over reacting or the country is overreacting to that fact,
I guess remains to be seen. But would you agree
that we have a lot of people undesirables that are
in this country that ought not to be here.
Speaker 5 (16:14):
We have a lot of undesirables in this country that
are here legally. We have a lot of undesirables who
are here, who are Americans. We have a lot of undesirables.
I mean, we have to have a system of justice,
we have to have law enforcement, and we have to
have immigration policy. It's a matter of how you execute it,
not whether or not it be done.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Yeah, okay, we're living in an age of hype, Michael, Yes,
an age of hype. Everything's hyped up.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
No question about.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
It's sensational, it's loud, it's in your face, it's constant,
and it's dishonest. Every line of thinking is dishonest. The
media targets audiences and tells that segment of the larger pie,
if you will, what it wants to hear, as opposed
to some type of anbjective news angle on the pros
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and cons of what's going on within each movement. They
just basically find the cherry pick the stories and the
angles that their audience wants to hear, and then they
propagandize it as opposed to provide a journalistic overview or insights.
There's no critical thinking, and there's no criticism of any
aspect of the party line, whatever that party line may be.
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If it's a Fox or Newsmax, and conservative or MSNBC
or CNBC maybe a more moderate or liberal point of view.
There's no backing off. It's hyperbole. It's hype, and it's distorted.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
M Yeah, distorted. I think it is a good word,
an over not overused word, better word that's applicable. There's
a history in Talker's magazine this week about podcasting, and
one of the primary podcast out fits this podcast One.
Their views and listenership is up to undred eighteen percent
(18:06):
because of what's being discussed, or is it because of
the new focus that people have not only on listening
to news talk radio or radio in general, but podcasting.
I think it's pretty is This is probably the oldest
of the successful podcasting companies, isn't it podcast One?
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Yeah, it's been around.
Speaker 5 (18:23):
I have a podcast there, the Michael Harrison Interview for
I think it's nine years now. I think I was
one of the first people to do a podcast on
podcast one. The podcasting arena has changed drastically because there's
so many new technologies and so many new platforms that
it's people don't really know how to navigate it. Not
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only people who are listeners, but people that are in
the industry.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Be that as it may. Podcasting has become very big.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
And podcasting is now not just audio podcasting, but video
podcasting is considered podcasts by and YouTube has emerged as
the number one source of podcasts YouTube, whether it's a
podcast on or any of these many, many, many podcast networks,
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YouTube is the king of them all, and it has
been proven that the video component to an audio podcast
makes the difference in how many people you can reach
or how attractive it'll be, which then brings up the
problem of what's going to happen to audio broadcasting is
are we coming to the end of audio being a
legitimate form unto itself or will everything have a video
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component to it.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
That's a question that's being asked right now.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Yeap, that a good question. All right, Let's talk about
Elon Musk, who's number three on the people list. This
week Cabinet meeting this week, he drastically lowered the goals
of the Department of Government Efficiency to the point where
people are saying, what are we doing? Why are we
spending all this money? He says that his work will
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save one hundred and fifty billion dollars this year, and
so is he's saying that to I guess I'm trying
to figure out what where he's going, because there are
a lot of people who are trying on both sides
of the aisle, and they say, okay, when his one
hundred and eighty days are up, he's gone, and but
Trump seems to be leaning on him. There are a
lot of stories this week that suggested the reason that
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Trump changed his mind on the tariffs and added ninety
days is because Musk told him that it was the
right thing to do, and he was making a big
mistake by pushing it the way that he did, because
he obviously didn't talk to anybody. Everybody at the when
the when the announcement was made they were gonna give
another ninety days, everybody and his staff looked at each other.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
Said, huh, yeah, Well, let's say it's Peter Navarro. Peter
Navarro was the songali that has been directing Trump's ear
when it comes to these tariffs, and Elon Musk has
called Peter Navarro and moron, and perhaps perhaps he is. Yeah,
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you know, so, there are a lot of issues there,
and again many of these things are haphazardly done, otherwise
known as pulling him out of your you know what,
and and Muska might have a different version of how
he pulls things out of his you know what than
Peter Navarro stuff out of his you know what. And
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Trump always seems not to know the latest news when
people say, mister President, what do you think about blah
blah blah. That's I'm just hearing about that now. I'll
have to let you know later. So you got guys
like Musk, and you've got guys like Navarro, and you've
got all these different advisors, you know, Laura Luma, and
you know all these people. Nobody knows where stuff is
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coming from. It's like whoever Trump heard last might be
the person that is influence over him, which you know,
having been in business all your life as well as
a talented person. When you're working in an organization where
the boss is influenced by the last person to talk
to him or her, it can be very frustrating for
the staffers who have to go along and try to
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second guess what's going on.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
I said something, Bob Kay is our producer on this
I can't remember what program we did this week, Bob,
but I remember saying that Trump is influenced by the
last person who talks to him before he goes through
the door.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
I think that's kind of the way. It is, so
in the circumstance that we find ourselves in sometimes making
mistakes about sending people away that ought not to be
sent away. There seems some interesting journalists are trying to
dig around to find out how many people get the
list of the people who have been exported, if you will,
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and how many of them paid taxes. It's just another
angle on this whole thing. Trump's right, Trump's wrong, And
so it gets so damn confusing.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
It is.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
It's like the stress is unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
If you a lot of confusion.
Speaker 5 (22:54):
Yeah, a lot of confusion comes from the fact that
a lot of the terms and the concepts that are
being thrown around are just wrong. Like, I go crazy
listening to people talking about tariffs. It amazes me how
misused the term tariff is and the definition of tariff.
And and we should know better. I mean, we had economists,
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we have professors, we have teachers, we have people that
are editors. Why aren't they just basically pointing out what
a tariff is. Why do a significant number of Americans
think that when we put a tax, tariff on China
or France or Canada that we pay the tariff, but.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Most most people, many people don't know that. They think
China is paying it now right, So, and the problem is.
Speaker 5 (23:50):
It induces, it induces Americans not to buy those products.
But you know how many things have to happen before
manufacturing returns to America. As a result of maybe years,
it could never happen. Perhaps this week, in fact, involved.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Apple airlifted six hundred tons of iPhones to the US
to try to beat the tariffs. Customers are buying cars
like you wouldn't believe. My friend the car dealer the
best weekend he ever had this past weekend. And so
the people who wanted to get these new devices being advertised,
you want to secure them before a possible price increase
(24:31):
of twenty five to thirty percent or more than Apple says. Okay,
So you wonder if did they just make these phones
last week? I think six hundred tons of them brought over.
Were they just sitting around? What's the story with that?
Speaker 5 (24:45):
Did they have an inside view of this? I don't
think so. I don't think things are being planned enough.
But I do know one thing with the power that
Trump has to make the stock market go up and
down by a thousand points in one day simply by
saying something or insinuating something. Do you realize what where
he and his cronies have to create insider trading.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
And that's one of the things that has not been examined.
That should be the number of people who have shorted
stuff this week and the billions, not millions, billions of
dollars that have been made by astute traders who have
shorted unbelievable numbers of stocks because of what's gone on,
and many people think this is a shell game, This
is just a way for Trump to help his friends.
Speaker 5 (25:25):
So many people feel that, And I wonder what I mean.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
He would never do anything like that, would he.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
No, of course not no, He'd have his daughter do it. Okay,
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is Robert F. Kennedy Junior, who to me comes across
(27:18):
as being sort of the most legitimate guy around. He's
not making a lot of noise, but there are a
lot of things going on, and a lot of doctors
who had criticized him now are thinking, Oh, maybe he's
got the right idea about a lot of things. What
do you think of that?
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Yeah, Robert F.
Speaker 5 (27:35):
Kennedy Doug is an interesting character, and you know, like
a lot of.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
People that.
Speaker 5 (27:42):
Are products of the Internet, if you will, they have
some truth to what they say and some exaggeration. I
get the feeling that RFK Junior is trying to walk
on the side of the line of legitimacy and not
fall prey to his darker impulses exactate things or to
do conspiracy theory. I think he's making an effort to
(28:05):
legitimize his act, and.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
A good effort. Well, I think it is anyway, all right,
So there's an overview from Michael's point of view, and
mine as well here on the Talk Radio Countdown Show.
Check out the stories and the people list at talkers
dot com.
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along with us. Thank you very much and enjoy the
conversation that continues. Now the focus on Let's see who
shall we focus on? Somebody said Trump might be insane
and maybe Trump then will will sue this guy for
suggesting that he is insane. Let's talk about that in
the public sector. You know, Trump's calling a lot of
(29:23):
people names. You heard somebody called I think who was it?
I must called one of Trump's advisors of moron or
an either or something. Is there no consequence anymore to
what you call people?
Speaker 6 (29:36):
Well, it depends who you are, in the sense that
years ago. As far as defamation goes, you would have
to prove that someone said something that was negative about
you it harms your reputation, and it was distributed, it
was communicated to the public.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
You know.
Speaker 6 (29:53):
When we talk about the harm your reputation. A case
that came to mind was Rodney Dangerfield Get No Respect.
There was a tabloid that said headlined caddyshacks funny man
swilling vodka and snorting cocaine with prostitutes in hot tub.
And he sued, which was very difficult to do because
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he was a public figure. He won, and they wanted
him a dollar. They said, your reputation wasn't harmed. But
the law changed in a case called New York Times
versus Sullivan, which first brought in the fact that you
can criticize and say what would be defamatory statements about
a public figure, so long ass and the Supreme Court
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did this unanimously, so as song as youre not purposely
lying or have a reckless disregard for the truth. And
then this case was later extended to public figures. So
the short answer is yeah, pretty much in the United States,
if it is a public figure you're talking about or
a politician like Trump, you can pretty much say anything
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you want.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Is it a shame that we've gone on to this
so serious mode? What happened to the old headlines like
the one that was buried this week about Valerie Brittanelli
who shared some underwear photos from when she was nineteen.
Whatever happened to that good stuff?
Speaker 6 (31:13):
Well, you know that actually is the role of social media.
You know, we don't get a filter on anything. And
since when you're looking at I tell my students in
every class the answer every question is it's about the money.
So when people are putting things up online, all that
you're looking for is clicks. All you're looking for is
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to keep people on there, So you say anything you want,
regardless of how ridiculous, regardless of how mean, and it's
protected and it makes you money, So it encourages these
kinds of things that you know, years ago, before really
the internet was in full force, people didn't see and
it is definitely not good. I mean, you can actually
look at the anxiety issues that this brings on the
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youth of millennials. I don't have a solution, but it
certainly is not in the best interest financially of the
tech companies to change any of this.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
So how about the legal aspects of all the money
that's been made? People are talking, The focus has been
on the news media. Oh, look at the stock market.
Most of the people I know don't have four or
one k's in stock market connections and stock in general.
So the people who are making money on this shorting stocks,
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there are billions, not millions, billions that have been made
this last couple of weeks because of all the teriff
discussion of the stock market going up down in sideways?
Is there insider information here or is it just somebody
being practical and smart? And is it illegal?
Speaker 6 (32:42):
Well, it depends if it's insider trading. Yes, it's illegal.
You know, at one time and it wasn't that many
years ago that congressmen were able to sell and buy
stocks with insider information that would have been punished by
anyone else. And a lot of that went on across
both aisles, Republicans and Democrats. But as far as shorting,
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when you, in essence are betting that the market's going
to get down, I think it was a fair bet
that with these tariffs it was going to bring the
market down. As far as the timing goes, if anyone
was aware that President Trump was about to put them
in or had an idea when it was going to
be done, that would qualify as insider insider trading, and
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with shorting it would it would be a crime. So
it'll be tough to prove, but if it could prove
those facts, yep, that is a crime.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
The number one thing I think the Supreme Court did
this week speaking of legal stuff, was say that it
was wrong to send that guy away who shouldn't have
been sent away.
Speaker 6 (33:44):
Yeah, but at least they did without any dissenters. So
that was a real positive thing that even the president
is subject to the rule of law.
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Doug Stephan along with Michael Harrison, who's the editor and
publisher of Talker's Magazine. Here to go through the charts
from this week, the week of April the seventh to
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the eleventh, as we go through the stories of the
top ten items being discussed according to the research done
by the folks at Talkers Magazine. You can find these
charts at talkers dot com the people list as well.
And to hear Michael Harrison arrives on the scene to
go through these lists and to begin our discussion of
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whatever it is, whoever's going to take over the world.
We're going to have a world takeover soon. Who knows
who will be the leader? We'll find our best material.
How are we to discuss? And so Michael, let's start
with really good stuff.
Speaker 5 (02:17):
Of course, the question is can anybody ever take over
the world?
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Will who wants to do it? Right?
Speaker 5 (02:25):
At number ten, we have severe weather in the mid
South and we have had that thing called March madness
turn into April madness. The NCAA hoops college basketball kind
of exciting at number nine. The HHS job cuts tied
with healthcare and vaccines. At number eight, we've got Bernie
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Sanders running around rallying, and there was the CNN town
hall that he participated in, and we call some of
these events hands off protests. Number seven, we have collectively
the Russia Ukraine War and the Israel Ilgaza War. At
number six, we have the US Iran nuclear talks and
number five DOGE and all of its many activities, along
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with universities funding freeze at four, scotus A Supreme Court
and its gangsters ruling at number three, deportations, detentions, visa
revocations at number two. The financial markets activity and recession
fears up and down like a roller coaster. Instability is
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the keyword, and number one ties right in, of course,
the Trump tariffs and the US versus China in a
trade war between the superpower economies. On our people survey,
we have the eppervescent enunciator Caroline Levitt at number ten,
RFK Junior at nine, Kilmar Abrigo Garcia at eight, Vladimir
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Putin at seven, Benjamin and Yahoo at six, XI Champaign five,
Howard Lutnick and Scott bessantent.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
You think I would have it because we talked about
it at number.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
Four, Elon Musk at three, JD. Vans at two, Donald
Trump at one. And that is a reasonable photograph of
a lot of moving, moving subjects and changing changing stories.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Okay, So looking at the people this and listening to
you pronounce some of these names, it comes to me
that we have lots of people that are either not
Americans outside America, because as with the global economy, there
is a global news focus as well. It's not what
happened in your backyard or what happened in your town,
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or maybe even in your city or state. It's what
is happening in America and China and Japan and Iran
and Russia and Ukraine. Remember when we were kids, well
when remembering when I first started to do doing talk radio,
or first started to be on the radio as a teenager,
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the focus was on what was going on next door,
what was the what was the big deal with a
big the price break you'd get by going to the
local hardware store, Right, I remember that when I was
doing mornings on the Little w TTF and Tiff and Ohio. Yeah,
we had we had special focus on Fridays as to
(05:26):
what you could get for a deal to help you
garden at this time of year. And that was I
remember spending five six minutes sometimes on that stuff.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
No more, no more. So I'm not sure.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
I'm not sure what your point was, but I do
think that it hasn't changed that much. I see it
differently than you. First, First of all, a lot of
these foreign names are very American names. We've always had
foreign names in this country. I don't know that we
could call certain names American names and other names aign name.
So I don't buy into that sole let us be
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separated on that.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
On that point, well, I don't know if I'm being prejudicial.
I'm just making an observation that in my neighborhood there
was John Smith, and there was Ralph Thomas, and there
was Billy Williams. And yeah, I mean, I think it's
an observation that people make, whether it sounds politically correct
or not, or whether it really is correct. We have
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at this time. Yes, in our country, there is a
great homogenization of people in backgrounds that wasn't so obvious
when we I'm not sure that it even was going
on when we were younger. We've encouraged people to come here,
hopefully legitimately. That's been one of the issues. And speaking
about that the Supreme Court this week, I told the
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President that he was wrong and that person that got
offed and didn't get off. But they get set away
I shouldn't have been done. And the thing that I
don't understand is why they fought so hard to keep
the guy who obviously was wrongly set away, to keep
them from coming back. That was more astounding than anything
else about that story. I thought, what did you think, Michael.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
I wasn't sure.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
I think they fell into a into a pile of
you know what and not have a They didn't have
an immediate means of bringing him back, and and thought
maybe they could just you know, lose it in the shuffle,
but they couldn't. There was too much attention paid, so
they had to do something about it. Now, I just
(07:32):
think that it was part of the slip shod way
in which the whole thing was handled to begin with.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Has everything that happened since Trump became president been handled
in a slip shod way.
Speaker 5 (07:42):
Unless he's some type of a of a genius and
has a method to his madness. It appears that there
is a great amount of slip shot, if you will,
attached to the way they carry.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Out their functions.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
Yeah, there's a there's a there's a degree of playing
it today by the sea of pants.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Okay, that does the work. Let's try this.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
There's this underlying feeling in the Trump administration and in
Trump World that it's all about trusting Trump and his instincts.
That it has nothing to do with meetings with experts,
with plans, with strategy. It's about Okay, what does he
think we should do?
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Now?
Speaker 5 (08:22):
Uh? That that that that this man is somehow Uh
he has some kind of magic in him, that he's
the only one who can work our way through these
issues that in many cases he created. He creates the
problem that he and he fixes them for you. H
(08:42):
I don't he does that. That's a technique. Yeah, it's
a technique. And so so now I I think that
it comes down to the people that love Trump just
want to believe in him. And you know what's he
thinking this hour?
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Of course?
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Why why do people love him? He doesn't even have
any close friends. Why do people love this guy? So
what is there? What's the magic here in his presentation
and his being? And he's obviously taking it all in,
and you know, he's believing the press in a manner
of speaking of the press from people who like him.
It's just is extraordinary for me in anybody. I think
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a lot of people look at objectively. I think there
are a lot of good things that he's doing. I
make no mistake about that. I think there's a lot
of stuff being done that needs to be done. But
the other side of it is that he's so obtuse
about it. And maybe that's what makes it. This all
an interesting, you know, scenario for us to be painting
and talking about. So one of the things that was
football this week, I think, is the story of the
(09:45):
stock market plunge. One day up, the next day down,
and the tariff numbers were the same. You know, we're
going to have thirty four percent with China. Now it's
one hundred and forty five percent, and they're going to
chop us for one hundred and two. And so the
news media for the most part, playing on fear. Look
(10:06):
at all the stories and what the essence, what the
meat is here? It's all about fear and how does
that affecting our health? I wonder about that is an
aside one of the stories that isn't here. How does
this affect our stress level?
Speaker 5 (10:21):
And our people are stress? People are true, and people
are very stressed. I think that they're for when k's
are drying up, where their retirement funds are gone, or
their little nest eggs and the stock market are gone.
This this is not something that is fun. This is
such a connection between a person's financial health and their
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biological health. So I think that you're absolutely right. I
think that stress is at a relatively recent high, and
people are people who know are feeling very good.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Yeah, no, it is. It's kind of all over the place,
and there's little room, by the way for other things
that are going on.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
You know.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
There's sort of a subtle not maybe it depends on
who you talk to, subtle concern about the government, the FAA,
whether we have enough skytrackers, if you will. The people
who work in the airport as protectors of our safety,
watching planes come in and out, and they see what
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happened with the helicopter crash in New York. I don't
think that had anything to do with the FAA, but
the situation in Washington or a couple of near misses again,
you know, that kind of stuff upsets people too. And
then they look and say, wait a minute, do we
have enough traffic air traffic controllers there? And what's going
on with that? And you know, it's just everything exploding.
(11:50):
And then there are a lot of things here that
we're talking about that are tied together for sure, around
the President Trump. We continue whether our news talk radio overview.
It's the time radio Countdown show.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
We're counting down what America is talking about. The talk
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Speaker 2 (12:16):
Talk Radio Countdown. All right, so we're back at it here.
You know, one of the things that seemed to lighten
a load, depending on how you look at all of
the things going on. The number six story this week
is a focus on the nuclear side of the coin,
where they're on Trump's always talked tough about that, and
(12:37):
there are a lot of reasons to believe that during
the last administration, those folks booted it by giving you
around back their six billion dollars that we had sort
of incarcerated, if you will. So now we're kind of
pushing them to the table as we're pushing a lot
of See, this is a good side of it if
you analyze all these people where we had. The legitimate
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side of what Trump is saying is that we have
been screwed for years and we didn't even know it.
I don't think most people thought about the tariffs and
what they cost us. So whether this approach is going
to work or not, he's got the hammer and he's
got the velvet glove, and getting Iran back to the
table is another one of these things. People were very
(13:21):
concerned and still are because Ukraine is very d I mean,
Iran's very dangerous. So did we get enough? Is that
a good story, Michael? Is that something that we should
be pleased about.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
Anything having to do with nuclear war and arms is important,
of course, and yes they are dangerous. As for whether
or not we've been screwed by all these countries, that's
an arguable point. That's a that is not a given.
That's one of the points that is under scrutiny. Whether
Trump is just drumming all this stuff up, and that
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the United States has been the most successful economy and
one of the most powerful countries in the world, and
nobody here is getting screwed. It's just a it's just
a matter of competition. So one of the problems with
Trump is he sees competition as being evil just because
it dares to compete with him. But I don't think
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it's a given, Doug, that the United States has been screwed.
You even said we didn't even know it. Maybe we
didn't know it. Maybe we weren't getting screwed.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Well, maybe I'm looking at different stuff and some of
these things that we've taken for granted over the years.
Maybe it's maybe the better way to put it is
we didn't know what was going on with these tariffs
and how it affected what we paid for anything and everything.
Because of this global economy that the United States sort
of started, we've had it very good here, most powerful
(14:47):
country in the history of the world, most economically significantly
successful country in the history of the world. And so
you know, we we have allowed ourselves, depending on who
was in charge, to maybe help other people out. Maybe
that's the way I'm looking at it.
Speaker 5 (15:05):
So, so you're basically thinking that helping other people out
is not a good idea.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
No, I didn't say that I didn't say that at all.
I'm just saying that what we are doing now is
protecting ourselves and not necessarily thinking about the other guy.
There are a lot of people who live their lives
helping other people, thinking about other people first, and the
United States maybe has done a lot of that because
(15:32):
we could afford to. I remember having conversations with one
of the people in my family about, you know, what
our obligation is as the richest power, We're supposed to
bring these people in from other countries and help them.
So some people think and whether it is, I think
it is to a point, but I didn't think. You know,
and this is what Trump touched on pretty significantly successfully
(15:53):
and rightfully, so that there are all kinds of people
wandering around in this country that we've let in that
are not good for our and so you know, whether
he's over reacting or the country is overreacting to that fact,
I guess remains to be seen. But would you agree
that we have a lot of people undesirables that are
in this country that ought not to be here.
Speaker 5 (16:14):
We have a lot of undesirables in this country that
are here legally. We have a lot of undesirables who
are here, who are Americans. We have a lot of undesirables.
I mean, we have to have a system of justice,
we have to have law enforcement, and we have to
have immigration policy. It's a matter of how you execute it,
not whether or not it be done.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Yeah, okay, we're living in an age of hype, Michael, Yes,
an age of hype. Everything's hyped up.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
No question about.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
It's sensational, it's loud, it's in your face, it's constant,
and it's dishonest. Every line of thinking is dishonest. The
media targets audiences and tells that segment of the larger pie,
if you will, what it wants to hear, as opposed
to some type of anbjective news angle on the pros
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and cons of what's going on within each movement. They
just basically find the cherry pick the stories and the
angles that their audience wants to hear, and then they
propagandize it as opposed to provide a journalistic overview or insights.
There's no critical thinking, and there's no criticism of any
aspect of the party line, whatever that party line may be.
(17:28):
If it's a Fox or Newsmax, and conservative or MSNBC
or CNBC maybe a more moderate or liberal point of view.
There's no backing off. It's hyperbole. It's hype, and it's distorted.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
M Yeah, distorted. I think it is a good word,
an over not overused word, better word that's applicable. There's
a history in Talker's magazine this week about podcasting, and
one of the primary podcast out fits this podcast One.
Their views and listenership is up to undred eighteen percent
(18:06):
because of what's being discussed, or is it because of
the new focus that people have not only on listening
to news talk radio or radio in general, but podcasting.
I think it's pretty is This is probably the oldest
of the successful podcasting companies, isn't it podcast One?
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Yeah, it's been around.
Speaker 5 (18:23):
I have a podcast there, the Michael Harrison Interview for
I think it's nine years now. I think I was
one of the first people to do a podcast on
podcast one. The podcasting arena has changed drastically because there's
so many new technologies and so many new platforms that
it's people don't really know how to navigate it. Not
(18:44):
only people who are listeners, but people that are in
the industry.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Be that as it may. Podcasting has become very big.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
And podcasting is now not just audio podcasting, but video
podcasting is considered podcasts by and YouTube has emerged as
the number one source of podcasts YouTube, whether it's a
podcast on or any of these many, many, many podcast networks,
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YouTube is the king of them all, and it has
been proven that the video component to an audio podcast
makes the difference in how many people you can reach
or how attractive it'll be, which then brings up the
problem of what's going to happen to audio broadcasting is
are we coming to the end of audio being a
legitimate form unto itself or will everything have a video
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component to it.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
That's a question that's being asked right now.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Yeap, that a good question. All right, Let's talk about
Elon Musk, who's number three on the people list. This
week Cabinet meeting this week, he drastically lowered the goals
of the Department of Government Efficiency to the point where
people are saying, what are we doing? Why are we
spending all this money? He says that his work will
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save one hundred and fifty billion dollars this year, and
so is he's saying that to I guess I'm trying
to figure out what where he's going, because there are
a lot of people who are trying on both sides
of the aisle, and they say, okay, when his one
hundred and eighty days are up, he's gone, and but
Trump seems to be leaning on him. There are a
lot of stories this week that suggested the reason that
(20:21):
Trump changed his mind on the tariffs and added ninety
days is because Musk told him that it was the
right thing to do, and he was making a big
mistake by pushing it the way that he did, because
he obviously didn't talk to anybody. Everybody at the when
the when the announcement was made they were gonna give
another ninety days, everybody and his staff looked at each other.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
Said, huh, yeah, Well, let's say it's Peter Navarro. Peter
Navarro was the songali that has been directing Trump's ear
when it comes to these tariffs, and Elon Musk has
called Peter Navarro and moron, and perhaps perhaps he is. Yeah,
(20:59):
you know, so, there are a lot of issues there,
and again many of these things are haphazardly done, otherwise
known as pulling him out of your you know what,
and and Muska might have a different version of how
he pulls things out of his you know what than
Peter Navarro stuff out of his you know what. And
(21:19):
Trump always seems not to know the latest news when
people say, mister President, what do you think about blah
blah blah. That's I'm just hearing about that now. I'll
have to let you know later. So you got guys
like Musk, and you've got guys like Navarro, and you've
got all these different advisors, you know, Laura Luma, and
you know all these people. Nobody knows where stuff is
(21:42):
coming from. It's like whoever Trump heard last might be
the person that is influence over him, which you know,
having been in business all your life as well as
a talented person. When you're working in an organization where
the boss is influenced by the last person to talk
to him or her, it can be very frustrating for
the staffers who have to go along and try to
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second guess what's going on.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
I said something, Bob Kay is our producer on this
I can't remember what program we did this week, Bob,
but I remember saying that Trump is influenced by the
last person who talks to him before he goes through
the door.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
I think that's kind of the way. It is, so
in the circumstance that we find ourselves in sometimes making
mistakes about sending people away that ought not to be
sent away. There seems some interesting journalists are trying to
dig around to find out how many people get the
list of the people who have been exported, if you will,
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and how many of them paid taxes. It's just another
angle on this whole thing. Trump's right, Trump's wrong, And
so it gets so damn confusing.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
It is.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
It's like the stress is unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
If you a lot of confusion.
Speaker 5 (22:54):
Yeah, a lot of confusion comes from the fact that
a lot of the terms and the concepts that are
being thrown around are just wrong. Like, I go crazy
listening to people talking about tariffs. It amazes me how
misused the term tariff is and the definition of tariff.
And and we should know better. I mean, we had economists,
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we have professors, we have teachers, we have people that
are editors. Why aren't they just basically pointing out what
a tariff is. Why do a significant number of Americans
think that when we put a tax, tariff on China
or France or Canada that we pay the tariff, but.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Most most people, many people don't know that. They think
China is paying it now right, So, and the problem is.
Speaker 5 (23:50):
It induces, it induces Americans not to buy those products.
But you know how many things have to happen before
manufacturing returns to America. As a result of maybe years,
it could never happen. Perhaps this week, in fact, involved.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Apple airlifted six hundred tons of iPhones to the US
to try to beat the tariffs. Customers are buying cars
like you wouldn't believe. My friend the car dealer the
best weekend he ever had this past weekend. And so
the people who wanted to get these new devices being advertised,
you want to secure them before a possible price increase
(24:31):
of twenty five to thirty percent or more than Apple says. Okay,
So you wonder if did they just make these phones
last week? I think six hundred tons of them brought over.
Were they just sitting around? What's the story with that?
Speaker 5 (24:45):
Did they have an inside view of this? I don't
think so. I don't think things are being planned enough.
But I do know one thing with the power that
Trump has to make the stock market go up and
down by a thousand points in one day simply by
saying something or insinuating something. Do you realize what where
he and his cronies have to create insider trading.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
And that's one of the things that has not been examined.
That should be the number of people who have shorted
stuff this week and the billions, not millions, billions of
dollars that have been made by astute traders who have
shorted unbelievable numbers of stocks because of what's gone on,
and many people think this is a shell game, This
is just a way for Trump to help his friends.
Speaker 5 (25:25):
So many people feel that, And I wonder what I mean.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
He would never do anything like that, would he.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
No, of course not no, He'd have his daughter do it. Okay,
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is Robert F. Kennedy Junior, who to me comes across
(27:18):
as being sort of the most legitimate guy around. He's
not making a lot of noise, but there are a
lot of things going on, and a lot of doctors
who had criticized him now are thinking, Oh, maybe he's
got the right idea about a lot of things. What
do you think of that?
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Yeah, Robert F.
Speaker 5 (27:35):
Kennedy Doug is an interesting character, and you know, like
a lot of.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
People that.
Speaker 5 (27:42):
Are products of the Internet, if you will, they have
some truth to what they say and some exaggeration. I
get the feeling that RFK Junior is trying to walk
on the side of the line of legitimacy and not
fall prey to his darker impulses exactate things or to
do conspiracy theory. I think he's making an effort to
(28:05):
legitimize his act, and.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
A good effort. Well, I think it is anyway, all right,
So there's an overview from Michael's point of view, and
mine as well here on the Talk Radio Countdown Show.
Check out the stories and the people list at talkers
dot com.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
In the Talk Radio Countdown, we're counting down what America
is talking about. The Talk Radio Countdown Show continues.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Talk Radio Countdown, so it does. Stephen JJ Wiseman is
here our legal authority to talk about some of the
legal aspects of the things that we've been talking about
this hour on the Talk Radio Countdown Show over great
radio stations like kcp X in Spanish Valley, Utah, and
also WCHV in Charlottesville, Virginia. Happy to have you folks
(29:01):
along with us. Thank you very much and enjoy the
conversation that continues. Now the focus on Let's see who
shall we focus on? Somebody said Trump might be insane
and maybe Trump then will will sue this guy for
suggesting that he is insane. Let's talk about that in
the public sector. You know, Trump's calling a lot of
(29:23):
people names. You heard somebody called I think who was it?
I must called one of Trump's advisors of moron or
an either or something. Is there no consequence anymore to
what you call people?
Speaker 6 (29:36):
Well, it depends who you are, in the sense that
years ago. As far as defamation goes, you would have
to prove that someone said something that was negative about
you it harms your reputation, and it was distributed, it
was communicated to the public.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
You know.
Speaker 6 (29:53):
When we talk about the harm your reputation. A case
that came to mind was Rodney Dangerfield Get No Respect.
There was a tabloid that said headlined caddyshacks funny man
swilling vodka and snorting cocaine with prostitutes in hot tub.
And he sued, which was very difficult to do because
(30:14):
he was a public figure. He won, and they wanted
him a dollar. They said, your reputation wasn't harmed. But
the law changed in a case called New York Times
versus Sullivan, which first brought in the fact that you
can criticize and say what would be defamatory statements about
a public figure, so long ass and the Supreme Court
(30:35):
did this unanimously, so as song as youre not purposely
lying or have a reckless disregard for the truth. And
then this case was later extended to public figures. So
the short answer is yeah, pretty much in the United States,
if it is a public figure you're talking about or
a politician like Trump, you can pretty much say anything
(30:57):
you want.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Is it a shame that we've gone on to this
so serious mode? What happened to the old headlines like
the one that was buried this week about Valerie Brittanelli
who shared some underwear photos from when she was nineteen.
Whatever happened to that good stuff?
Speaker 6 (31:13):
Well, you know that actually is the role of social media.
You know, we don't get a filter on anything. And
since when you're looking at I tell my students in
every class the answer every question is it's about the money.
So when people are putting things up online, all that
you're looking for is clicks. All you're looking for is
(31:34):
to keep people on there, So you say anything you want,
regardless of how ridiculous, regardless of how mean, and it's
protected and it makes you money, So it encourages these
kinds of things that you know, years ago, before really
the internet was in full force, people didn't see and
it is definitely not good. I mean, you can actually
look at the anxiety issues that this brings on the
(31:58):
youth of millennials. I don't have a solution, but it
certainly is not in the best interest financially of the
tech companies to change any of this.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
So how about the legal aspects of all the money
that's been made? People are talking, The focus has been
on the news media. Oh, look at the stock market.
Most of the people I know don't have four or
one k's in stock market connections and stock in general.
So the people who are making money on this shorting stocks,
(32:27):
there are billions, not millions, billions that have been made
this last couple of weeks because of all the teriff
discussion of the stock market going up down in sideways?
Is there insider information here or is it just somebody
being practical and smart? And is it illegal?
Speaker 6 (32:42):
Well, it depends if it's insider trading. Yes, it's illegal.
You know, at one time and it wasn't that many
years ago that congressmen were able to sell and buy
stocks with insider information that would have been punished by
anyone else. And a lot of that went on across
both aisles, Republicans and Democrats. But as far as shorting,
(33:05):
when you, in essence are betting that the market's going
to get down, I think it was a fair bet
that with these tariffs it was going to bring the
market down. As far as the timing goes, if anyone
was aware that President Trump was about to put them
in or had an idea when it was going to
be done, that would qualify as insider insider trading, and
(33:29):
with shorting it would it would be a crime. So
it'll be tough to prove, but if it could prove
those facts, yep, that is a crime.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
The number one thing I think the Supreme Court did
this week speaking of legal stuff, was say that it
was wrong to send that guy away who shouldn't have
been sent away.
Speaker 6 (33:44):
Yeah, but at least they did without any dissenters. So
that was a real positive thing that even the president
is subject to the rule of law.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Stephen JJ Wiseman here as usual in this portion of
the weekly talk radio contdown show, I'm Doug Stephanie Countdown.
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