April 25, 2025 • 36 mins
4/26/25 - Tariffs Top The Chart This Week
Host Doug Stephan along with Kevin Casey, VP/Executive Editor of Talkers Magazine, review the most talked about stories and people on news/talk radio for the week of April 21st, 2025 through April 25th, 2025. Compiled by the research department at Talkers Magazine - The Bible of Talk Radio and the New Talk Media - www.talkers.com
STORIES/TOPICS
Host Doug Stephan along with Kevin Casey, VP/Executive Editor of Talkers Magazine, review the most talked about stories and people on news/talk radio for the week of April 21st, 2025 through April 25th, 2025. Compiled by the research department at Talkers Magazine - The Bible of Talk Radio and the New Talk Media - www.talkers.com
STORIES/TOPICS
- Tariffs / U.S.-China Trade War
- Financial Markets / Fed Chair Powell’s Status
- Russia-Ukraine War / Israel-Gaza War
- Abrego Garcia Deportation Case
- Pope Francis Dies
- Google Anti-Trust Ruling/Meta Anti-Trust Case
- Hegseth Signal Chat Controversy
- Iran Nuclear Talks
- State Dept. Reorganization
- “60 Minutes” Producer Quits
- Donald Trump
- Xi Jinping
- Jerome Powell
- Volodymyr Zelensky
- Kilmar Abrego Garcia
- Pope Francis
- J.D. Vance
- Elon Musk
- Pete Hegseth
- Bill Owens
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of the charts that have been prepared by the folks
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Michael Harrison, the editor and publisher.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Kevin Casey is the executive editor at Talkers, and he's
here for Michael today. To start off by going through
the list of people that seem to be prominent on
the top of the lists.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Of the discussion items.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
They go together sort of hand in hand, if you will, so, Kevin,
do the honors, if you will.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Let's get started and dig in.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
All right, sure thing, Doug Top people discussed this week
on News Talk Radio at number ten, Bill Owens number nine,
Hexith at number eight, Elon Musk number seven, jd Vance
number six, Ope Francis at number five, kilmar Abreggo Garcia
number four, Vladimirer Zelenski number three, Jerome Powell number two,
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Jijinping and number one of course Donald J.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Trump, all right, number one. Of course, there's a lot.
Speaker 6 (02:24):
Of Then we'll be for will be for the foreseeable future.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
No, no doubt, Yes, as long as he continues to
make strides. Some of them are frontwards and some of
our backwards, but there are strides at any rate. Okay,
the story list as well, These are pretty interesting and
we are we have I think the last monther Or
show been pretty much focused on all Trump all the time.
Is a nice variety of focus here this week in
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the story list, So.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Have at it, and if you will, please Kevin all right.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
Top stories on news talk radio this week number ten,
sixty minutes. Producer quits at number nine, State Department reorganization
at number eight, Iran nuclear talks number seven, Hegsith signal
chat controversy at number eight. We have the Google anti
trust ruling and the Meta anti trust case number five.
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Pope Francis dies at number four this week, Abrego Garcia
deportation case number three, Russia Ukraine war and Israel Gaza
war at number two. Financial markets and fed Chair Powell's
status and the top story this week tariffs and the
US China trade war.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
All right, so we could do will he or won't he?
We could play that game with any number of these stories.
Will he or won't he fix the problem that we
have with tariffs, because there are really two problems here,
and maybe even more than that. The one problem, which
I think many people are grateful for, is becoming aware
of how bad the tariff deals were with all a
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lot of countries around the world. So he's brought that
up to the surface for discussion. How he approached it
with his usual heavy hand was a subject of controversy,
but there's no mistaking the fact in my mind anyway, Kevin,
that we've been screwed for years by these tariffs other
countries are placing on our goods, and even that makes it.
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Even with that we are the largest trading partners in
the world with pretty much all of the rest of
of the countries in the world, that doesn't mean we're
going to stay there. It almost seems some people who
don't like Trump say he's doing this on purpose because
he wants to destroy America. So on one hand, we
have make America great again and the people who believe
in that philosophy, and then we have people on the
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other side who think that Trump is doing whatever he
can to destroy the country because he's pals with Putin
and with a lot of the Chinese leadership.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
So what road Do we go down? Is the question? Right?
Speaker 5 (04:51):
I guess, I mean I think I think it would be.
I can't understand how it would possibly serve Donald J.
Trump to destroy a man America. That doesn't seem like
it's going to serve him. Well, I mean, the notion
that he might have some sort of deal with Putin
to deliver America to him, I mean, talk about the
ultimate treason. So I think that's that's silly. I think
that the president's tactic is pretty clear. He realizes that
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there are a number of nations across most nations that
we are trading partners with, have really can't afford not
to do business with the United States. So let's take
China for example, because they're the big you know, they're
a big opponent right now.
Speaker 6 (05:28):
China is not a consumer nation. It is a producer nation.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
It needs America to consume its goods America among others.
But it's certainly he's going to be in big trouble
if America is no longer consuming Chinese goods. That's that's
a big problem for China. And it's a you know
problem for the US as well too, so because because
people like to buy cheap stuff at Walmart. They don't
want to buy expensive stuff made by Americans.
Speaker 6 (05:51):
They want to buy they do. They want to buy
cheap stuff made by Chinese people.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Or it's the same with food, Kevin, they want to
buy cheap food. But here we are, we are all
concerned about our health and well being. And there's two
sides to that story as well, the idea that you
buy and eat cheap food and what that does to
your body and your longevity versus eating good, well produced
food and living longer and being healthier. It's there's a
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yin and a yang here to a lot of this stuff.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Frankly, Oh.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Yeah, we've been bemoaning the Chinese stuff. I have gone
to the point of, if I find out anything's made
in China, I won't buy it.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
That includes things are grown in China, drugs that are made.
Don't take drugs.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
But you know what I'm saying, I have got into
that mindset because there's too much of it. But you know,
blaming the Chinese for American greed, and that's kind of
what it is. Maybe it should be tempered a little
bit because.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
Business I wouldn't I wouldn't say greed, Doug. We are
certainly a consumerist nation. There's no question about that.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Yep, absolutely right about that. Yeah, all right, so yeah,
go ahead please No.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
I was just gonna say. Another thing the Trump administration
did with its tactics in the terraf is they simply
looked at nations where there was a trade imbalance and said, ah,
you know, you you export more to us than you
set us more stuff than we send to you.
Speaker 6 (07:12):
And that's the trade and balance that he hates.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
Because Donald Trump has a it's a zero sum game
with him for everything, it's win or lose. There's no
well this deal works out for other reasons. It's do
you have what's what's the scoreboard? You know, what's what's
the score at the end of the game. That's all
he cares about. And for example, putting countries like Bangladesh
and Vietnam, there's a reason those countries don't buy American
goods because the people there can't afford them, because we
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can't afford it because they're developing nation.
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executive editor of Talker's magazine. Here we're discussing the issues
of the day, the impact that the people on this
list are having to the discussions. Certainly, when we look
at the list, Jerome Powell is number three on the list,
and then the Trump connection is number two.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Is his status? Will he or won't he?
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Can't he or can't he? One day Trump says, I'm
I can hardly wait to fire that guy. And the
next day and now he's not going anywhere.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
What are you talking you about? Right? I mean that's
the young and the yang here.
Speaker 5 (10:37):
Well, that's well, that's part of it. That's a Donald
Trump tactics. So what Donald Trump likes to do is
he likes to test the waters. He likes to throw
something out there. How are people going to feel if
I can actually get Jerome Powell out of his office
as chair of the FED. And then when he saw
how things read, how reactions took place, he realized, Okay,
(10:58):
I should back off, and he doesn't you know still
ever say those sorts of things. But this is attack
of his going back years and years. He likes to
throw a few punches to see how the person receiving
them reacts.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Do you think that's the art of the deal. Is
that part of the whole premise of his I everything.
Almost every day you hear him say we've got to
make a deal. From when he ran for president to
when he became president, it's all about the art of
the deal. And he says, we're getting all of these
people to the table. And I don't know because I
can't follow it that closely and spend the time, although
I find myself much more during the day during the
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week spending time looking.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
At some of these stories.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Not only I mean certainly have value to our work
on this radio program, but it's also very interesting to
see how you know guys like on the People as
Pete Hegsith is number nine. He's about as incompetent as
anybody the Trump could have chosen. Why he chose him
remains to be a mystery, other than that he's somewhat supportive,
(11:58):
but he's nothing but trouble and he's not that you
can tell he's not that bright to begin with, So
we couldn't find somebody else who was in the Trump
philosophical column but wasn't shut to dope that. Yeah, he's
just I think he's Trump ought to be. You know,
he tested the water with everybody, and he.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Doesn't like it. He fires you. That's already seen. You've
seen that a lot, but with this guy.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
To answer your first question the question, yes, that it
is part of his tactic.
Speaker 6 (12:24):
It is part of his art of the deal.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
It's it's Trump has always uh done use that tactic
of throwing a few punches to see how how his
opponents react, and that then that and that gauge is
he understands what he's dealing with, then where he can
go from there. That is a part of it's part
of the reason that he was elected. People think that
he is a tough guy negotiator. That's the image he
has presented and that he continues to to try to
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present as president. And that's that's one of the things
that Trump supporters like about him. They believe he's a
tough guy, tough negotiator, and that's what they elected.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
And they got more than they bargained for in some circumstances,
but there certainly is a need. The perception of many people,
if not most people, on both sides even that we
needed some great changes. And so that's the direction that
we seem to be headed in, and there's nothing wrong
with that in many ways. All Right, we'll talk about
the threat to the First Amendment as we continue here
(13:19):
in this week's countdown, the.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Talk Radio Countdown.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
We're counting down what America is talking about. The Talk
Radio Countdown show continues the.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Talk Radio Countdown. All Right, here we are. I'm Doug Stefan.
We are. I think.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
I promise that we would talk about the First Amendment.
The Talkers magazine big article this week if you go
to talkers dot com story about the one of the
FCC commissioners. This Gomes is going to go around the
country to talk about the She wants to talk about it,
and she wants to hear from people about what's happening
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to our freedom of speech, some other rights and freedoms
as well. She's a democratic. Like the Trump administration, there
is censorship, she says. There have been some instances, not
too much inside baseball here, Kevin, but we know there
have been companies the biggest company and some of the
other companies that are being scrutinized by the FCC. And
(14:31):
one could look at it and say, yeah, this is
a way for him to try to get rid of
the people who don't agree with him, you know so,
And I think on the face of it, you can
understand why people would be concerned about the silencing or
the attempt to silence people who are not on Trump's side.
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And you can see that not only in what goes
on on the radio, but or in general in the media,
but also you know, he's trying to fire judges and
get people out of the way who came after him
when he wasn't president.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
All that stuff is on the list, isn't it.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
Well, I don't. I don't know about the list. I
don't know what's on it or what if the list exists.
But indeed, the the FCC going after CBS for claiming
that it you know, misedited or you through through the
through the use of you know, leaving stuff out, uh
made Kamala Harris' interview made her look good and going
(15:30):
after them and saying that that you know, they're looking
at their license for this. I think this is a
huge stretch. I think I don't know Brandon Carr personally.
I don't brandan Carr rather, so I don't know what
he's really like. He's certainly a conservative, and he's now
the FCC chair, and he is going after a CBS comcast,
and I don't I don't see what his case is.
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But I'm also not an expert in First Amendment law.
You know, I'm an amateur like everyone else. I simply
practiced my First Amendment right. I don't know about how it.
Speaker 6 (16:01):
Go in court.
Speaker 5 (16:02):
I think he has a long road to go to
UH to prove that CBS did something that is worthy
of a license having their licenses revoked for television stations,
et cetera. I think I think this is this is
more about appearances. I think it's a little bit of theater.
That's my guest. That's what I think.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Well, the Trump's good at theater.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
UH, And these people are sixty minutes and CBS have
been notoriously one sided, the same as the New York
Times and the Washington Post and the Boston Globe and.
Speaker 6 (16:32):
Fox News and Newsmax. They're all everyone.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
Yeah, there there is except for the example of News
Nation and if you ask people who watch News Nation,
is it really neutral?
Speaker 6 (16:42):
Is it really just about the news?
Speaker 5 (16:43):
And I know people who are you know, Trumpers and
who are Democrats are like, yeah, they try to be fair.
But every almost everything else now is some sort of
you know, advocacy journalism. Yeah, I mean I think CNN.
CNN would deny that and say, oh no, no we're not.
But I mean the they clearly lean lean towards Democrats.
At least you can guarantee that their editorial, their editors
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and the editorial board probably vote a Democrat. Again, no
crime against that. Everyone gets to vote. But for example,
Fox News Channel is has its method of reporting, and
it is to make conservatism look good and liberalism look bad.
And that's what they do. That's not really news. That's
the form of advocacy journalism. So you know, depends on
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what I guess, it depends upon what you'll like, you know, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Well that's it you want to see. It's kind of
like listening to the hits. If you like the music
of the sixties, that's who you listen to. You like
the music that comes from the people on NEWSMAX or MSNBC,
then that's your listening you don't necessarily find out what
really is going on, which in the music business is
not a big deal, but in the news business, what's
going on around you is particularly important.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
For making good choices.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Another interesting article in Talkers magazine this week about Ted
Cruz being on the air and being picked up by Premiere,
which is the largest of all the syndicated network companies
associated with iHeart and the podcast is hosted by a kid.
I remember when Ben Ferguson. I remember the first day
that I met him. He was just barely out of diapers.
(18:16):
It seemed like that's a little facetious, but he was
a teenager and a big kid, good looking kid, and
he came here, was at Radio America, and he started
doing some programs and he was actually pretty good.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
And he continued to grow and push himself.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
So he's created quite a you know, there are a
number of people that have created an interesting.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Career for themselves. Ben's been pretty smart.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
I don't know if you've listened to him, Kevin, but
he's I like him because I think he's a good
He still is a kid, even though he's probably in
his mid to late thirties.
Speaker 6 (18:48):
Yeah, he's not a kid.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Anymore.
Speaker 6 (18:49):
I think Ben's pushing forty, is he?
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Yeah, but I still believe so.
Speaker 5 (18:54):
I don't know exact I'd have to google it, but yeah,
I believe Ben's pushing forty. So yeah, but yeah, he
co hosts the program with with Cruise.
Speaker 6 (19:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Yeah, right, and you can be Shore Direct.
Speaker 5 (19:03):
Podcast in they're now making it available to radio stations.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Right, that's an interesting reality. And that's the maybe we
talk a little bit about that off the chart list
for a second, the way people are choosing to listen
to things like news talk radio or news talk information.
The same people who are doing remember the big to
do a Bongino when he left to go to the FBI,
people saying, ah, he's number three on the podcast list,
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nobody'll be able to keep up with that. Well, apparently
the guy who replaced him has been able to keep
I don't know whether I think I think Bongino's wife
is running the podcast still, if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 5 (19:41):
There's a business arrangement that the podcast is produced by
their company and then it is represented from a sales
standpoint by I believe it's Cumulus Podcast Network.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Right, yeah, all right.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Anyway, Meanwhile, back at the ranch here with the stories
that are on people's mind.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
I was talking about the people on the list. Hekesith.
I think he's a waste of.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Time, and I'm vehemently supportive of people who agree with that.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
I just think he has no place there.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Elon Musk's days are numbered.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Yes or no.
Speaker 6 (20:11):
Yes, but it was intended to be that way, right.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
So, but people who don't understand that, they think that
the bad guys on the other side are trying to.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Get rid of them.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
No, that's a putter understanding what's going on, right.
Speaker 6 (20:25):
Well, I don't.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
Yeah, if I'm Elon Musk, though, I'm very concerned about
the state of Tesla. So I think I would want
to get back to work if I were him, That's
just me. I would be all right, Sorry, President President,
thank you for it's been a pleasure serving. But I
got to get back to my electric vehicle company, which
is having a very difficult time right now.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
So I was following a car driving in downtown Boston
the other day. The guy was driving to Tesla and
had a big first sales sign on it and then
one of those you know, stop musk with a circle
around it, and the line drew it and I.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Just got a kick out of that. And then I
started looking around and there are a bunch.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Of them like that, So you know, it's and that
has been something that the CBS's of the world have
been happy to pick up on because it's kind of
embarrassing in a manner of speaking to a musk and
to others.
Speaker 6 (21:17):
So I haven't I think it's I think it's kind
of weird. I don't.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
I don't buy my vehicles based on political choices.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
I mean, but there's so many people who do that
these days.
Speaker 5 (21:28):
You either like Tesla or you don't. I mean, you
like the vehicle or you don't. I mean, I mean
there's I guess there's there. Their explanation is they don't
want to enrich elon Musk. But you already bought the car,
you know, so you know, why not just drive it?
I mean, have you ever driven a Tesla?
Speaker 6 (21:44):
You've been in one.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
I have a friend, doctor Jack Stockwell, who does one
of the weekend.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
They're really great cars. Now, I don't know how how
long they last. I mean, I don't know what it's
like to be an owner of one other than what
they've told me. But they're they're they're really amazing view.
So you know, if I could, if I was in
the market and I had the cash, I would consider
buying one, especially at the discount right they're going for now.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Right now, exactly.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Well, the thing that happens that I know Jack's Tesla
is getting to be He bought one of the first ones,
and he still loves tooling around.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Whenever I go to.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Salt Lake City, he picks me up at the airport
and we can go from zero to sixty.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
He loves to play.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
It's like a toy for him, and I think that's
the way it is with some people. They just find
it so interesting. There's so many gadgets and things to
play with and depending on what year you purchased the
car and has more trinkets in it and drives itself practically.
He takes great pride going down the highways in the
Salt Lake takes his hands off the wheel and watch
(22:41):
this and you can get up close to a car
and it'll stop a lot of him putting the front on.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
The brake, you know, stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Although that hasn't always worked well. There have been a
few Teslas that haven't quite made.
Speaker 5 (22:50):
It big good enough there's constant updates that are being
you know, downloaded to the to the computer of the car.
I think the fantastic thing about him is the acceleration
is insane. If anyone who so we all drive combustion,
you know, combustion engine vehicles. There's no matter how great
your cars, there's always lagged between the time when you
hit the accelerator and when you actually go. Not sell
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with electric it's instant to a little snap your neck
if you're not ready for it.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Yeah, I'm I believe.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
I like.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Fast cars.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
I've always I've had Rovers for years and years and years,
and they have a five hundred horsepower engine at the
gas couzzler. But I like to have the response when
I need to move.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
I need to move.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
And I have a forward pickup truck that has a
turbo six cylinder engine in it, and that may have
more goose to it than the range Rover does. It's
just a you know, but I don't I'm not worried
about U. And I say this without trying to rub
people's noses in it. My priority is not to worry
about what comes out of the tailpipe, because I think
it's inconsequential I don't think. I mean, you can have
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millions of cars, and depending on where you are in
the world, if you go to China and you go
to Asia, you go to some places even in Europe
where cars are in horrible can addition, and the exhaust
that comes out, you can see it, you can smell it.
There's a lot more of a problem there in our country.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
We don't really have that.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
We become more conscious and we have actually more money
to buy better stuff. And so that's one of the
lessons about capitalism, it seems to me, and people being
able to make a decent living to buy something that
is actually a functional. So anyway, off of that, Pope
Francis and his passing and what's going to happen next,
I think as we're doing this program over the weekend,
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the funeral service for the Pope is and has been
taking place. The cardinals are there. There was a big
to do made about who's going to sit where, and
again this is kind of a there we go into
the where's Trump gonna sit? And people that like Trump
are angry because he's sitting in the third row.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
You know that kind of stuff. It just is, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
It's just amazing how everything becomes about Trump. So Trump's going,
that's appropriate the American president to go to the funeral
of the Pope, I think, And sure, how many well,
you know a lot of people in America are Catholic.
Speaker 6 (25:08):
There are going to be a lot of world leaders there. Sure.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Yeah, but he's but his When people that support him
found out he was gonna sit in the third row,
they were not happy.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
But if you look at too far, yea, well, no,
I mean they do they say that you should be
in the front row or are they saying should throw No?
Speaker 1 (25:28):
I think most well that people who support him say
he should be in the front row. The people that
don't like him think he shouldn't have gone at all.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
He should Yeah, right, exactly.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Anyway, the passing of the pope is something that time
people's minds.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Go ahead, Kevin, No.
Speaker 5 (25:43):
I just gonna say, I mean, the president isn't Catholics,
So I mean, I don't I don't know, I don't
know if that matters. I mean, he's simply the president
of the United States with you know, a whole bunch
of Catholics here in this country. So yeah, I mean,
I think it's it's certainly reasonably. I don't I don't
know about the seating and all that stuff. I'm glad
I don't have to organize stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
I know, well, you've had to organize a lot of
events for Talker's magazine over the years.
Speaker 5 (26:05):
I wouldn't want to do that, Torouchet.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Anyway, the Pope there was something about this guy. I'm
not a big fan of the Catholic Church.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
For any number of reasons that I'm not going to
go into right here. I'm not an organized religion guy anyway.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
I believe strongly in God and Spirit, and I don't
think that we could exist here without some force that's
a lot greater than we are. But I don't hold
with the Catholic Church saying, as other religions say, we're.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
The one true religion.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Now I'm not here to debate that, but I think
this guy was a very good influence going beyond, way
beyond the church. He's the kind of person that you
would like to say I said for many years that
I thought he was the most important leader in the world.
I didn't care for the way he handled the passing
Cardinal Law, who had been the Archbishop of Boston.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
The funeral.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
He escaped from Boston basically because the police let him escape.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
He was going to be arrested.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
H and the day before he was going to be arrested,
he jumped on a plane to Rome and never was
heard from since. But he was behind many of the
scandals here in the Boston area regarding the pedophile priests,
and the people around here never really forgave him as
he shouldn't have been forgiven, even if they were Catholic.
And when he went over and got a job in
the Vatican and the Pope sort of took him in.
(27:27):
He could have just let when he died, he could
have just let him kind of go off into the sunset.
But no, he performed the service himself, and that really
annoyed a lot of people here. So but that was
the only that was the only as far as finding
things to criticize, that was the only time I found anything.
I thought his mission was fabulous. I loved his face
(27:47):
and his attitude. And then I watched the documentary the
other night about his life. He came. It was he
had a girlfriend when he was younger, and then he
decided to go into the into the priesthood, and and
he wasn't highly thought of, so he got taken away
from the job that he had and he he was
for a couple of years confined to just listening to
confessions and a confessional in a church. And then he
(28:11):
came home. He judge, did you see that or do
you know any of his history?
Speaker 6 (28:15):
No, I don't, I don't. I'm been fascinated by it.
I didn't know. I didn't know anything about his background.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Yeah, And then he came along and he was so
good and kind and worked with people. He'd really changed
a great deal. And so early on he became with
some of the friends that he worked with, some of
his colleagues. When he became a cardinal, he's an archbishop,
and then he was a cardinal, he became very much
the focus of what people thought a good Catholic outreach
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missionary should be.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
And that's kind of how he continued as he was pope.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
So he needs to have all the accolades and the
praise that he's.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Going to get.
Speaker 5 (28:54):
Well, it's interesting and as you speak about him, he
was clearly a man who it was very concerned about
the poor, those who were driven to the margins of society.
And there are those who will argue that's exactly what
the message of Jesus Christ was. Now, the question is
there are a lot of people who expect the next
pope to be quite conservative and very unlike Pope Francis.
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I don't know if that's going to be the case,
but it wouldn't surprise me if just the zeitgeist is
for U is going to see us have a far
more conservative pope elected.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Back to the Ying and the Yang, there are a
couple of American cardinals for the first time that are
in the running. It'd be interesting to see. There's never
been an American pope, so it'd be interesting to see
how that all shakes out.
Speaker 6 (29:41):
That'd be a great name for a movie, though, wouldn't it,
the American Pope?
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Did you see Conclave? A movie with I did not?
Speaker 6 (29:49):
I did not?
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Great?
Speaker 6 (29:51):
You like that?
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Very good, very penetrating. Ray Fines or however he pronounces
his name, was very good. And I think he's a
great actor anyway. He does well in all the parts
he's in. But there was a great message there, and
it was a kind of inside inside baseball.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Look at how these you know, the cheese is made.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
It was it was pretty yeah, pretty uncomfortable, but yeah
it was good.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
It was a good movie. So we get a chance
to see it's probably online something.
Speaker 6 (30:18):
Well now pretty relevant huh.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Very very very real.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
I would imagine a lot of people will be going
to find it this weekend and in the next one
is a ten days, sixteen days?
Speaker 2 (30:27):
How long did they have to pick the next up? Hope?
Speaker 6 (30:29):
Well I didn't.
Speaker 5 (30:29):
One of one of the on demand services might have
been Amazon. I forget to put it up on there
as a free you could watch it for free.
Speaker 6 (30:37):
It was earlier this week, I believe.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
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Speaker 2 (31:05):
Here the Top Radio Countdown.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
We're counting down what America is talking about. The talk
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Speaker 6 (31:23):
Top Radio Countdown.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
At fifty three past the hour, we continue on the
Talk Radio Countdown Show. Kevin Casey, the executive editor at Talkers,
is here. Michael Harrison is off this week, and so
I want to go back into some of the things
that although the name is not on the list this week,
I was being negative about Musk and Hagsith and to.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
A point, Jade Vance's name on here. I think he's
a waste of time too.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
The fact that Robert F.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Kennedy, Junr.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Is for me anyway, this is I'm just giving you
my two cents worth. Is the best choice that Trump
made for any cabinet position. There's some people who say
that Pam Bondy is wonderful, and they all like the
skimpy clothing that the Press secretary were flaars. Okay, that's fine,
but for getting the job done and for challenging the
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way people think Kennedy is the guy. And I think
that the questions he's asking and the things he's trying
to fix, there's nothing. You know, people say, well it's
Kennedy versus science. You know, how stupid that safement statement.
Look at what he's what we all know about red
dye number five and all the rest of those guys
that get put in the food, how horrible it is
(32:38):
for you. And he's now taking action to get rid
of that stuff from our food supply and looking at
other things like the sugary drinks that everybody knows are killers.
Let's get the sugar, you know, the practical stuff is
what he's taking. And yet because he's a Trump appointee,
or because his family thinks he's crazy because he ground
up some chipmunk in a blender, if not ever any
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like you know what I'm saying, Kevin, We just we
go off on these tangents. Here's the guy who has
strong beliefs, feelings, and many of them, if not most
of them, are legitimate. But yet because he's associated with Trump,
he's no good?
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Am I right? Or not?
Speaker 6 (33:15):
Well, I'm not sure.
Speaker 7 (33:16):
Because he's associated with Trump, I think that his his
a lot of his views fly in the face of
established science and established medicine, and that is always going
to have people calling him, you know, a nut job,
and I think that you know, look, most people aren't
all bad or all good.
Speaker 5 (33:34):
There's going to be They're going to do things that
we agree with, they're gonna do things we disagree with.
I think the food dies. All of these things have
been tested, and I think that, you know, the question
is is if people eat enough of something, is it
bad for you? Yeah, and certain levels of things are
supposedly Okay. I'm not a big fan of, you know,
toxic food dies myself.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
I am of.
Speaker 5 (33:55):
However, the issue with tamarasol causing autism that has been
studied and there is no evidence that it's the case.
Speaker 6 (34:03):
He's going to continue to.
Speaker 5 (34:04):
Go down that road because this is his cause, celeb
And I'm not a doctor. I'm not a researcher. I
don't know myself. I have to look to experts. And
he claims that we're going to have a we're going
to have a known cause for autism by September. I
think that's a very hopeful thing to say. We'll see
what happens come September. I'm not sure I agree with that.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Well, you know, but there's yeah, there's that. It's the
political side of it. People who don't believe him many times,
and I'm not suggesting that's your case. I'm just saying
that in general, I have found in my circle that
people who don't agree with him are people who are
not fond of the administration. But he lets it go
a little bit further because he makes himself open to these.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
Criticisms by being upfront.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
And frankly, more people in this country now practice medicine
on the homeopathic side than on the commercial side. So
and people say, well, there's no science there, I beg
to differ.
Speaker 6 (35:02):
With you to say that. Wait.
Speaker 5 (35:03):
Wait, you're saying that the majority of Americans use homeopathic
medicine versus is opposed to.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Saying that there's more money.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
If you look at the stats, there's more money spent,
whether it's insurance involved or people spending cash for things.
There is more money spent for homeopathic remedies and for
treatments from chiropractic to acupuncture, to shots that fix your
back or whatever, down to even massages. There's more money
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being spent down there to relieve problems that people have
health problems than there is in that stat you can
find almost anywhere. It's just been that way for quite
a long time. But I point to doctor Jack Stockwell,
who does one of the hours that we have in
a good day health that every weekend people can hear
in a lot of the same station.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
As to carry the Countdown.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
Although they differ with their approach to science, come up
with a lot of the same conclusions, and frankly, they're
both very supportive of what Ken's very traditional, but he's
very supportive of what Kennedy is doing because he thinks
the science points to justification for a lot of these
things that are being questioned. And I think science is
(36:12):
always kind of, you know, reinventing itself. It's always just
you know, how many years ago did we hear that
coffee was bad for you and then it was good
for you? In vitamin C isn't good for you?
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Now it's good. You know, that continues. That's in the
ball that we continue to have to kind of work
our way through.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
At any rate, we won't solve that problem today, Kevin,
but you've done a good job in helping us understand
a lot of the things on the story list and
the people list. So thank you for being here. Kevin Casey,
your editor of Talker's Magazine, is here for the Talk
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of the charts that have been prepared by the folks
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Speaker 2 (01:30):
Michael Harrison, the editor and publisher.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Kevin Casey is the executive editor at Talkers, and he's
here for Michael today. To start off by going through
the list of people that seem to be prominent on
the top of the lists.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Of the discussion items.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
They go together sort of hand in hand, if you will, so, Kevin,
do the honors, if you will.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Let's get started and dig in.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
All right, sure thing, Doug Top people discussed this week
on News Talk Radio at number ten, Bill Owens number nine,
Hexith at number eight, Elon Musk number seven, jd Vance
number six, Ope Francis at number five, kilmar Abreggo Garcia
number four, Vladimirer Zelenski number three, Jerome Powell number two,
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Jijinping and number one of course Donald J.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Trump, all right, number one. Of course, there's a lot.
Speaker 6 (02:24):
Of Then we'll be for will be for the foreseeable future.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
No, no doubt, Yes, as long as he continues to
make strides. Some of them are frontwards and some of
our backwards, but there are strides at any rate. Okay,
the story list as well, These are pretty interesting and
we are we have I think the last monther Or
show been pretty much focused on all Trump all the time.
Is a nice variety of focus here this week in
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the story list, So.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Have at it, and if you will, please Kevin all right.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
Top stories on news talk radio this week number ten,
sixty minutes. Producer quits at number nine, State Department reorganization
at number eight, Iran nuclear talks number seven, Hegsith signal
chat controversy at number eight. We have the Google anti
trust ruling and the Meta anti trust case number five.
(03:14):
Pope Francis dies at number four this week, Abrego Garcia
deportation case number three, Russia Ukraine war and Israel Gaza
war at number two. Financial markets and fed Chair Powell's
status and the top story this week tariffs and the
US China trade war.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
All right, so we could do will he or won't he?
We could play that game with any number of these stories.
Will he or won't he fix the problem that we
have with tariffs, because there are really two problems here,
and maybe even more than that. The one problem, which
I think many people are grateful for, is becoming aware
of how bad the tariff deals were with all a
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lot of countries around the world. So he's brought that
up to the surface for discussion. How he approached it
with his usual heavy hand was a subject of controversy,
but there's no mistaking the fact in my mind anyway, Kevin,
that we've been screwed for years by these tariffs other
countries are placing on our goods, and even that makes it.
(04:19):
Even with that we are the largest trading partners in
the world with pretty much all of the rest of
of the countries in the world, that doesn't mean we're
going to stay there. It almost seems some people who
don't like Trump say he's doing this on purpose because
he wants to destroy America. So on one hand, we
have make America great again and the people who believe
in that philosophy, and then we have people on the
(04:39):
other side who think that Trump is doing whatever he
can to destroy the country because he's pals with Putin
and with a lot of the Chinese leadership.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
So what road Do we go down? Is the question? Right?
Speaker 5 (04:51):
I guess, I mean I think I think it would be.
I can't understand how it would possibly serve Donald J.
Trump to destroy a man America. That doesn't seem like
it's going to serve him. Well, I mean, the notion
that he might have some sort of deal with Putin
to deliver America to him, I mean, talk about the
ultimate treason. So I think that's that's silly. I think
that the president's tactic is pretty clear. He realizes that
(05:15):
there are a number of nations across most nations that
we are trading partners with, have really can't afford not
to do business with the United States. So let's take
China for example, because they're the big you know, they're
a big opponent right now.
Speaker 6 (05:28):
China is not a consumer nation. It is a producer nation.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
It needs America to consume its goods America among others.
But it's certainly he's going to be in big trouble
if America is no longer consuming Chinese goods. That's that's
a big problem for China. And it's a you know
problem for the US as well too, so because because
people like to buy cheap stuff at Walmart. They don't
want to buy expensive stuff made by Americans.
Speaker 6 (05:51):
They want to buy they do. They want to buy
cheap stuff made by Chinese people.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Or it's the same with food, Kevin, they want to
buy cheap food. But here we are, we are all
concerned about our health and well being. And there's two
sides to that story as well, the idea that you
buy and eat cheap food and what that does to
your body and your longevity versus eating good, well produced
food and living longer and being healthier. It's there's a
(06:16):
yin and a yang here to a lot of this stuff.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Frankly, Oh.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Yeah, we've been bemoaning the Chinese stuff. I have gone
to the point of, if I find out anything's made
in China, I won't buy it.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
That includes things are grown in China, drugs that are made.
Don't take drugs.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
But you know what I'm saying, I have got into
that mindset because there's too much of it. But you know,
blaming the Chinese for American greed, and that's kind of
what it is. Maybe it should be tempered a little
bit because.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
Business I wouldn't I wouldn't say greed, Doug. We are
certainly a consumerist nation. There's no question about that.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Yep, absolutely right about that. Yeah, all right, so yeah,
go ahead please No.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
I was just gonna say. Another thing the Trump administration
did with its tactics in the terraf is they simply
looked at nations where there was a trade imbalance and said, ah,
you know, you you export more to us than you
set us more stuff than we send to you.
Speaker 6 (07:12):
And that's the trade and balance that he hates.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
Because Donald Trump has a it's a zero sum game
with him for everything, it's win or lose. There's no
well this deal works out for other reasons. It's do
you have what's what's the scoreboard? You know, what's what's
the score at the end of the game. That's all
he cares about. And for example, putting countries like Bangladesh
and Vietnam, there's a reason those countries don't buy American
goods because the people there can't afford them, because we
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can't afford it because they're developing nation.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Yep, Yep, there's a lot to say, and I think
that's a very astute overview of what's going on and
that's what we're trying to do here. The Countdown Show
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stories of the week. What we've heard discussed, what somar
thoughts are As a talk radio folks, and having been
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of the day, the impact that the people on this
list are having to the discussions. Certainly, when we look
at the list, Jerome Powell is number three on the list,
and then the Trump connection is number two.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Is his status? Will he or won't he?
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Can't he or can't he? One day Trump says, I'm
I can hardly wait to fire that guy. And the
next day and now he's not going anywhere.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
What are you talking you about? Right? I mean that's
the young and the yang here.
Speaker 5 (10:37):
Well, that's well, that's part of it. That's a Donald
Trump tactics. So what Donald Trump likes to do is
he likes to test the waters. He likes to throw
something out there. How are people going to feel if
I can actually get Jerome Powell out of his office
as chair of the FED. And then when he saw
how things read, how reactions took place, he realized, Okay,
(10:58):
I should back off, and he doesn't you know still
ever say those sorts of things. But this is attack
of his going back years and years. He likes to
throw a few punches to see how the person receiving
them reacts.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Do you think that's the art of the deal. Is
that part of the whole premise of his I everything.
Almost every day you hear him say we've got to
make a deal. From when he ran for president to
when he became president, it's all about the art of
the deal. And he says, we're getting all of these
people to the table. And I don't know because I
can't follow it that closely and spend the time, although
I find myself much more during the day during the
(11:32):
week spending time looking.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
At some of these stories.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Not only I mean certainly have value to our work
on this radio program, but it's also very interesting to
see how you know guys like on the People as
Pete Hegsith is number nine. He's about as incompetent as
anybody the Trump could have chosen. Why he chose him
remains to be a mystery, other than that he's somewhat supportive,
(11:58):
but he's nothing but trouble and he's not that you
can tell he's not that bright to begin with, So
we couldn't find somebody else who was in the Trump
philosophical column but wasn't shut to dope that. Yeah, he's
just I think he's Trump ought to be. You know,
he tested the water with everybody, and he.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Doesn't like it. He fires you. That's already seen. You've
seen that a lot, but with this guy.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
To answer your first question the question, yes, that it
is part of his tactic.
Speaker 6 (12:24):
It is part of his art of the deal.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
It's it's Trump has always uh done use that tactic
of throwing a few punches to see how how his
opponents react, and that then that and that gauge is
he understands what he's dealing with, then where he can
go from there. That is a part of it's part
of the reason that he was elected. People think that
he is a tough guy negotiator. That's the image he
has presented and that he continues to to try to
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present as president. And that's that's one of the things
that Trump supporters like about him. They believe he's a
tough guy, tough negotiator, and that's what they elected.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
And they got more than they bargained for in some circumstances,
but there certainly is a need. The perception of many people,
if not most people, on both sides even that we
needed some great changes. And so that's the direction that
we seem to be headed in, and there's nothing wrong
with that in many ways. All Right, we'll talk about
the threat to the First Amendment as we continue here
(13:19):
in this week's countdown, the.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Talk Radio Countdown.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
We're counting down what America is talking about. The Talk
Radio Countdown show continues the.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Talk Radio Countdown. All Right, here we are. I'm Doug Stefan.
We are. I think.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
I promise that we would talk about the First Amendment.
The Talkers magazine big article this week if you go
to talkers dot com story about the one of the
FCC commissioners. This Gomes is going to go around the
country to talk about the She wants to talk about it,
and she wants to hear from people about what's happening
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to our freedom of speech, some other rights and freedoms
as well. She's a democratic. Like the Trump administration, there
is censorship, she says. There have been some instances, not
too much inside baseball here, Kevin, but we know there
have been companies the biggest company and some of the
other companies that are being scrutinized by the FCC. And
(14:31):
one could look at it and say, yeah, this is
a way for him to try to get rid of
the people who don't agree with him, you know so,
And I think on the face of it, you can
understand why people would be concerned about the silencing or
the attempt to silence people who are not on Trump's side.
(14:52):
And you can see that not only in what goes
on on the radio, but or in general in the media,
but also you know, he's trying to fire judges and
get people out of the way who came after him
when he wasn't president.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
All that stuff is on the list, isn't it.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
Well, I don't. I don't know about the list. I
don't know what's on it or what if the list exists.
But indeed, the the FCC going after CBS for claiming
that it you know, misedited or you through through the
through the use of you know, leaving stuff out, uh
made Kamala Harris' interview made her look good and going
(15:30):
after them and saying that that you know, they're looking
at their license for this. I think this is a
huge stretch. I think I don't know Brandon Carr personally.
I don't brandan Carr rather, so I don't know what
he's really like. He's certainly a conservative, and he's now
the FCC chair, and he is going after a CBS comcast,
and I don't I don't see what his case is.
(15:52):
But I'm also not an expert in First Amendment law.
You know, I'm an amateur like everyone else. I simply
practiced my First Amendment right. I don't know about how it.
Speaker 6 (16:01):
Go in court.
Speaker 5 (16:02):
I think he has a long road to go to
UH to prove that CBS did something that is worthy
of a license having their licenses revoked for television stations,
et cetera. I think I think this is this is
more about appearances. I think it's a little bit of theater.
That's my guest. That's what I think.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Well, the Trump's good at theater.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
UH, And these people are sixty minutes and CBS have
been notoriously one sided, the same as the New York
Times and the Washington Post and the Boston Globe and.
Speaker 6 (16:32):
Fox News and Newsmax. They're all everyone.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
Yeah, there there is except for the example of News
Nation and if you ask people who watch News Nation,
is it really neutral?
Speaker 6 (16:42):
Is it really just about the news?
Speaker 5 (16:43):
And I know people who are you know, Trumpers and
who are Democrats are like, yeah, they try to be fair.
But every almost everything else now is some sort of
you know, advocacy journalism. Yeah, I mean I think CNN.
CNN would deny that and say, oh no, no we're not.
But I mean the they clearly lean lean towards Democrats.
At least you can guarantee that their editorial, their editors
(17:06):
and the editorial board probably vote a Democrat. Again, no
crime against that. Everyone gets to vote. But for example,
Fox News Channel is has its method of reporting, and
it is to make conservatism look good and liberalism look bad.
And that's what they do. That's not really news. That's
the form of advocacy journalism. So you know, depends on
(17:26):
what I guess, it depends upon what you'll like, you know, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Well that's it you want to see. It's kind of
like listening to the hits. If you like the music
of the sixties, that's who you listen to. You like
the music that comes from the people on NEWSMAX or MSNBC,
then that's your listening you don't necessarily find out what
really is going on, which in the music business is
not a big deal, but in the news business, what's
going on around you is particularly important.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
For making good choices.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Another interesting article in Talkers magazine this week about Ted
Cruz being on the air and being picked up by Premiere,
which is the largest of all the syndicated network companies
associated with iHeart and the podcast is hosted by a kid.
I remember when Ben Ferguson. I remember the first day
that I met him. He was just barely out of diapers.
(18:16):
It seemed like that's a little facetious, but he was
a teenager and a big kid, good looking kid, and
he came here, was at Radio America, and he started
doing some programs and he was actually pretty good.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
And he continued to grow and push himself.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
So he's created quite a you know, there are a
number of people that have created an interesting.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Career for themselves. Ben's been pretty smart.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
I don't know if you've listened to him, Kevin, but
he's I like him because I think he's a good
He still is a kid, even though he's probably in
his mid to late thirties.
Speaker 6 (18:48):
Yeah, he's not a kid.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Anymore.
Speaker 6 (18:49):
I think Ben's pushing forty, is he?
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Yeah, but I still believe so.
Speaker 5 (18:54):
I don't know exact I'd have to google it, but yeah,
I believe Ben's pushing forty. So yeah, but yeah, he
co hosts the program with with Cruise.
Speaker 6 (19:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Yeah, right, and you can be Shore Direct.
Speaker 5 (19:03):
Podcast in they're now making it available to radio stations.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Right, that's an interesting reality. And that's the maybe we
talk a little bit about that off the chart list
for a second, the way people are choosing to listen
to things like news talk radio or news talk information.
The same people who are doing remember the big to
do a Bongino when he left to go to the FBI,
people saying, ah, he's number three on the podcast list,
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nobody'll be able to keep up with that. Well, apparently
the guy who replaced him has been able to keep
I don't know whether I think I think Bongino's wife
is running the podcast still, if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 5 (19:41):
There's a business arrangement that the podcast is produced by
their company and then it is represented from a sales
standpoint by I believe it's Cumulus Podcast Network.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Right, yeah, all right.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Anyway, Meanwhile, back at the ranch here with the stories
that are on people's mind.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
I was talking about the people on the list. Hekesith.
I think he's a waste of.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Time, and I'm vehemently supportive of people who agree with that.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
I just think he has no place there.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Elon Musk's days are numbered.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Yes or no.
Speaker 6 (20:11):
Yes, but it was intended to be that way, right.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
So, but people who don't understand that, they think that
the bad guys on the other side are trying to.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Get rid of them.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
No, that's a putter understanding what's going on, right.
Speaker 6 (20:25):
Well, I don't.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
Yeah, if I'm Elon Musk, though, I'm very concerned about
the state of Tesla. So I think I would want
to get back to work if I were him, That's
just me. I would be all right, Sorry, President President,
thank you for it's been a pleasure serving. But I
got to get back to my electric vehicle company, which
is having a very difficult time right now.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
So I was following a car driving in downtown Boston
the other day. The guy was driving to Tesla and
had a big first sales sign on it and then
one of those you know, stop musk with a circle
around it, and the line drew it and I.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Just got a kick out of that. And then I
started looking around and there are a bunch.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Of them like that, So you know, it's and that
has been something that the CBS's of the world have
been happy to pick up on because it's kind of
embarrassing in a manner of speaking to a musk and
to others.
Speaker 6 (21:17):
So I haven't I think it's I think it's kind
of weird. I don't.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
I don't buy my vehicles based on political choices.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
I mean, but there's so many people who do that
these days.
Speaker 5 (21:28):
You either like Tesla or you don't. I mean, you
like the vehicle or you don't. I mean, I mean
there's I guess there's there. Their explanation is they don't
want to enrich elon Musk. But you already bought the car,
you know, so you know, why not just drive it?
I mean, have you ever driven a Tesla?
Speaker 6 (21:44):
You've been in one.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
I have a friend, doctor Jack Stockwell, who does one
of the weekend.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
They're really great cars. Now, I don't know how how
long they last. I mean, I don't know what it's
like to be an owner of one other than what
they've told me. But they're they're they're really amazing view.
So you know, if I could, if I was in
the market and I had the cash, I would consider
buying one, especially at the discount right they're going for now.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Right now, exactly.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Well, the thing that happens that I know Jack's Tesla
is getting to be He bought one of the first ones,
and he still loves tooling around.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Whenever I go to.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Salt Lake City, he picks me up at the airport
and we can go from zero to sixty.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
He loves to play.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
It's like a toy for him, and I think that's
the way it is with some people. They just find
it so interesting. There's so many gadgets and things to
play with and depending on what year you purchased the
car and has more trinkets in it and drives itself practically.
He takes great pride going down the highways in the
Salt Lake takes his hands off the wheel and watch
(22:41):
this and you can get up close to a car
and it'll stop a lot of him putting the front on.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
The brake, you know, stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Although that hasn't always worked well. There have been a
few Teslas that haven't quite made.
Speaker 5 (22:50):
It big good enough there's constant updates that are being
you know, downloaded to the to the computer of the car.
I think the fantastic thing about him is the acceleration
is insane. If anyone who so we all drive combustion,
you know, combustion engine vehicles. There's no matter how great
your cars, there's always lagged between the time when you
hit the accelerator and when you actually go. Not sell
(23:10):
with electric it's instant to a little snap your neck
if you're not ready for it.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Yeah, I'm I believe.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
I like.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Fast cars.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
I've always I've had Rovers for years and years and years,
and they have a five hundred horsepower engine at the
gas couzzler. But I like to have the response when
I need to move.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
I need to move.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
And I have a forward pickup truck that has a
turbo six cylinder engine in it, and that may have
more goose to it than the range Rover does. It's
just a you know, but I don't I'm not worried
about U. And I say this without trying to rub
people's noses in it. My priority is not to worry
about what comes out of the tailpipe, because I think
it's inconsequential I don't think. I mean, you can have
(23:51):
millions of cars, and depending on where you are in
the world, if you go to China and you go
to Asia, you go to some places even in Europe
where cars are in horrible can addition, and the exhaust
that comes out, you can see it, you can smell it.
There's a lot more of a problem there in our country.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
We don't really have that.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
We become more conscious and we have actually more money
to buy better stuff. And so that's one of the
lessons about capitalism, it seems to me, and people being
able to make a decent living to buy something that
is actually a functional. So anyway, off of that, Pope
Francis and his passing and what's going to happen next,
I think as we're doing this program over the weekend,
(24:30):
the funeral service for the Pope is and has been
taking place. The cardinals are there. There was a big
to do made about who's going to sit where, and
again this is kind of a there we go into
the where's Trump gonna sit? And people that like Trump
are angry because he's sitting in the third row.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
You know that kind of stuff. It just is, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
It's just amazing how everything becomes about Trump. So Trump's going,
that's appropriate the American president to go to the funeral
of the Pope, I think, And sure, how many well,
you know a lot of people in America are Catholic.
Speaker 6 (25:08):
There are going to be a lot of world leaders there. Sure.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Yeah, but he's but his When people that support him
found out he was gonna sit in the third row,
they were not happy.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
But if you look at too far, yea, well, no,
I mean they do they say that you should be
in the front row or are they saying should throw No?
Speaker 1 (25:28):
I think most well that people who support him say
he should be in the front row. The people that
don't like him think he shouldn't have gone at all.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
He should Yeah, right, exactly.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Anyway, the passing of the pope is something that time
people's minds.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Go ahead, Kevin, No.
Speaker 5 (25:43):
I just gonna say, I mean, the president isn't Catholics,
So I mean, I don't I don't know, I don't
know if that matters. I mean, he's simply the president
of the United States with you know, a whole bunch
of Catholics here in this country. So yeah, I mean,
I think it's it's certainly reasonably. I don't I don't
know about the seating and all that stuff. I'm glad
I don't have to organize stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
I know, well, you've had to organize a lot of
events for Talker's magazine over the years.
Speaker 5 (26:05):
I wouldn't want to do that, Torouchet.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Anyway, the Pope there was something about this guy. I'm
not a big fan of the Catholic Church.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
For any number of reasons that I'm not going to
go into right here. I'm not an organized religion guy anyway.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
I believe strongly in God and Spirit, and I don't
think that we could exist here without some force that's
a lot greater than we are. But I don't hold
with the Catholic Church saying, as other religions say, we're.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
The one true religion.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Now I'm not here to debate that, but I think
this guy was a very good influence going beyond, way
beyond the church. He's the kind of person that you
would like to say I said for many years that
I thought he was the most important leader in the world.
I didn't care for the way he handled the passing
Cardinal Law, who had been the Archbishop of Boston.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
The funeral.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
He escaped from Boston basically because the police let him escape.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
He was going to be arrested.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
H and the day before he was going to be arrested,
he jumped on a plane to Rome and never was
heard from since. But he was behind many of the
scandals here in the Boston area regarding the pedophile priests,
and the people around here never really forgave him as
he shouldn't have been forgiven, even if they were Catholic.
And when he went over and got a job in
the Vatican and the Pope sort of took him in.
(27:27):
He could have just let when he died, he could
have just let him kind of go off into the sunset.
But no, he performed the service himself, and that really
annoyed a lot of people here. So but that was
the only that was the only as far as finding
things to criticize, that was the only time I found anything.
I thought his mission was fabulous. I loved his face
(27:47):
and his attitude. And then I watched the documentary the
other night about his life. He came. It was he
had a girlfriend when he was younger, and then he
decided to go into the into the priesthood, and and
he wasn't highly thought of, so he got taken away
from the job that he had and he he was
for a couple of years confined to just listening to
confessions and a confessional in a church. And then he
(28:11):
came home. He judge, did you see that or do
you know any of his history?
Speaker 6 (28:15):
No, I don't, I don't. I'm been fascinated by it.
I didn't know. I didn't know anything about his background.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Yeah, And then he came along and he was so
good and kind and worked with people. He'd really changed
a great deal. And so early on he became with
some of the friends that he worked with, some of
his colleagues. When he became a cardinal, he's an archbishop,
and then he was a cardinal, he became very much
the focus of what people thought a good Catholic outreach
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missionary should be.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
And that's kind of how he continued as he was pope.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
So he needs to have all the accolades and the
praise that he's.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Going to get.
Speaker 5 (28:54):
Well, it's interesting and as you speak about him, he
was clearly a man who it was very concerned about
the poor, those who were driven to the margins of society.
And there are those who will argue that's exactly what
the message of Jesus Christ was. Now, the question is
there are a lot of people who expect the next
pope to be quite conservative and very unlike Pope Francis.
(29:18):
I don't know if that's going to be the case,
but it wouldn't surprise me if just the zeitgeist is
for U is going to see us have a far
more conservative pope elected.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Back to the Ying and the Yang, there are a
couple of American cardinals for the first time that are
in the running. It'd be interesting to see. There's never
been an American pope, so it'd be interesting to see
how that all shakes out.
Speaker 6 (29:41):
That'd be a great name for a movie, though, wouldn't it,
the American Pope?
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Did you see Conclave? A movie with I did not?
Speaker 6 (29:49):
I did not?
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Great?
Speaker 6 (29:51):
You like that?
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Very good, very penetrating. Ray Fines or however he pronounces
his name, was very good. And I think he's a
great actor anyway. He does well in all the parts
he's in. But there was a great message there, and
it was a kind of inside inside baseball.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Look at how these you know, the cheese is made.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
It was it was pretty yeah, pretty uncomfortable, but yeah
it was good.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
It was a good movie. So we get a chance
to see it's probably online something.
Speaker 6 (30:18):
Well now pretty relevant huh.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Very very very real.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
I would imagine a lot of people will be going
to find it this weekend and in the next one
is a ten days, sixteen days?
Speaker 2 (30:27):
How long did they have to pick the next up? Hope?
Speaker 6 (30:29):
Well I didn't.
Speaker 5 (30:29):
One of one of the on demand services might have
been Amazon. I forget to put it up on there
as a free you could watch it for free.
Speaker 6 (30:37):
It was earlier this week, I believe.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
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At fifty three past the hour, we continue on the
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is here. Michael Harrison is off this week, and so
I want to go back into some of the things
that although the name is not on the list this week,
I was being negative about Musk and Hagsith and to.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
A point, Jade Vance's name on here. I think he's
a waste of time too.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
The fact that Robert F.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Kennedy, Junr.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Is for me anyway, this is I'm just giving you
my two cents worth. Is the best choice that Trump
made for any cabinet position. There's some people who say
that Pam Bondy is wonderful, and they all like the
skimpy clothing that the Press secretary were flaars. Okay, that's fine,
but for getting the job done and for challenging the
(32:17):
way people think Kennedy is the guy. And I think
that the questions he's asking and the things he's trying
to fix, there's nothing. You know, people say, well it's
Kennedy versus science. You know, how stupid that safement statement.
Look at what he's what we all know about red
dye number five and all the rest of those guys
that get put in the food, how horrible it is
(32:38):
for you. And he's now taking action to get rid
of that stuff from our food supply and looking at
other things like the sugary drinks that everybody knows are killers.
Let's get the sugar, you know, the practical stuff is
what he's taking. And yet because he's a Trump appointee,
or because his family thinks he's crazy because he ground
up some chipmunk in a blender, if not ever any
(32:59):
like you know what I'm saying, Kevin, We just we
go off on these tangents. Here's the guy who has
strong beliefs, feelings, and many of them, if not most
of them, are legitimate. But yet because he's associated with Trump,
he's no good?
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Am I right? Or not?
Speaker 6 (33:15):
Well, I'm not sure.
Speaker 7 (33:16):
Because he's associated with Trump, I think that his his
a lot of his views fly in the face of
established science and established medicine, and that is always going
to have people calling him, you know, a nut job,
and I think that you know, look, most people aren't
all bad or all good.
Speaker 5 (33:34):
There's going to be They're going to do things that
we agree with, they're gonna do things we disagree with.
I think the food dies. All of these things have
been tested, and I think that, you know, the question
is is if people eat enough of something, is it
bad for you? Yeah, and certain levels of things are
supposedly Okay. I'm not a big fan of, you know,
toxic food dies myself.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
I am of.
Speaker 5 (33:55):
However, the issue with tamarasol causing autism that has been
studied and there is no evidence that it's the case.
Speaker 6 (34:03):
He's going to continue to.
Speaker 5 (34:04):
Go down that road because this is his cause, celeb
And I'm not a doctor. I'm not a researcher. I
don't know myself. I have to look to experts. And
he claims that we're going to have a we're going
to have a known cause for autism by September. I
think that's a very hopeful thing to say. We'll see
what happens come September. I'm not sure I agree with that.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Well, you know, but there's yeah, there's that. It's the
political side of it. People who don't believe him many times,
and I'm not suggesting that's your case. I'm just saying
that in general, I have found in my circle that
people who don't agree with him are people who are
not fond of the administration. But he lets it go
a little bit further because he makes himself open to these.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
Criticisms by being upfront.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
And frankly, more people in this country now practice medicine
on the homeopathic side than on the commercial side. So
and people say, well, there's no science there, I beg
to differ.
Speaker 6 (35:02):
With you to say that. Wait.
Speaker 5 (35:03):
Wait, you're saying that the majority of Americans use homeopathic
medicine versus is opposed to.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Saying that there's more money.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
If you look at the stats, there's more money spent,
whether it's insurance involved or people spending cash for things.
There is more money spent for homeopathic remedies and for
treatments from chiropractic to acupuncture, to shots that fix your
back or whatever, down to even massages. There's more money
(35:31):
being spent down there to relieve problems that people have
health problems than there is in that stat you can
find almost anywhere. It's just been that way for quite
a long time. But I point to doctor Jack Stockwell,
who does one of the hours that we have in
a good day health that every weekend people can hear
in a lot of the same station.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
As to carry the Countdown.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
Although they differ with their approach to science, come up
with a lot of the same conclusions, and frankly, they're
both very supportive of what Ken's very traditional, but he's
very supportive of what Kennedy is doing because he thinks
the science points to justification for a lot of these
things that are being questioned. And I think science is
(36:12):
always kind of, you know, reinventing itself. It's always just
you know, how many years ago did we hear that
coffee was bad for you and then it was good
for you? In vitamin C isn't good for you?
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Now it's good. You know, that continues. That's in the
ball that we continue to have to kind of work
our way through.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
At any rate, we won't solve that problem today, Kevin,
but you've done a good job in helping us understand
a lot of the things on the story list and
the people list. So thank you for being here. Kevin Casey,
your editor of Talker's Magazine, is here for the Talk
Radio Countdown Show with me. I'm Doug Stephan Talk Radio Countdown.
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