May 10, 2025 • 35 mins
5/10/25 - Tariffs / The Economy / UK Trade Deal 3 Way Tie For #1
Host Doug Stephan along with Kevin Casey, VP/Executive Editor of Talkers Magazine, review the most talked about stories and people on news/talk radio for the week of May 5tht, 2025 through May 9th, 2025. Compiled by the research department at Talkers Magazine - The Bible of Talk Radio and the New Talk Media - www.talkers.com
STORIES/TOPICS
Host Doug Stephan along with Kevin Casey, VP/Executive Editor of Talkers Magazine, review the most talked about stories and people on news/talk radio for the week of May 5tht, 2025 through May 9th, 2025. Compiled by the research department at Talkers Magazine - The Bible of Talk Radio and the New Talk Media - www.talkers.com
STORIES/TOPICS
- Tariffs / The Economy / UK Trade Deal
- Alien Enemies Act / Deportations
- Big, Beautiful Bill / Medicaid Cuts
- India-Pakistan Tensions / Russia-Ukraine War
- Newark Airport Woes / Air Traffic Control Staffing
- The Conclave
- DOJ to Drop Abortion Pill Suits
- Trump’s Alcatraz Order
- Surgeon General Nominee / RFK Jr.
- Columbia Pro-Palestinian Protests
- Donald Trump
- Jerome Powell
- Scott Bessent
- Mike Johnson
- Keir Starmer / Mark Carney
- Sean Duffy
- J.D. Vance
- RFK Jr.
- Janette Nesheiwat / Casey Means
- Elon Musk
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Speaker 3 (01:00):
Counting Down what America is talking about? Welcome to the
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Speaker 4 (01:07):
All across America talk radio at the voices of freedom.
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Speaker 1 (01:17):
Stay you feel like you're free and raring to go.
You are free to listen to this program and don't
hear the important things that we are about to discuss
here on the Talk Radio Countdown Show. I'm Doug Stefan.
Kevin Casey sits in for Michael Harrison this week. He
is the executive editor vice president. Let's see what other
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titles can we be Kevin, let's come up with a
few more titles for you. I think you should. You
deserve lots of titles. I appreciate that first person to
serve in the second position a talker's magazine. How's that?
That's pretty good?
Speaker 5 (01:53):
Hell, a little clumsy, but it's accurate.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Oh listen, I'm known for being clumsy, so that's an
okay thing, all right. So we have the charts here
for the week of May fifth to the ninth, first
full week of the month of May. Lots of rain,
lots of weather, lots of things like that going on.
But that doesn't get in the way of mister Trump
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and the Pope, I would say, and they are surprisingly
not the same person, although there was an attempt too,
I think make people think, hey, Donald Trump, you made
a good pope too. All right, So let's go through
the story list, Kevin, if we may people and give
people the one two threes of it, if you will.
Speaker 6 (02:39):
Top stories as discussed on news talk radio across this
great land of ours. Number ten this week, Columbia pro
Palestinian protests and number nine Surgeon General nominee. Number eight,
Trump's Alcatraz order at number seven, doj to drop abortion
pill suits Number six, Conclave alex new Pope, number five,
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tie Newark airport woes and air traffic control staffing at
number four, India Pakistan tensions tied with the Russia Ukraine
war number three this week, the Big Beautiful Bill and
the Medicaid cuts. Number two, Alien Enemies Act and deportations,
and at number one this week, a three way tie tariffs,
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the economy and the UK trade deal.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Will be all right, Go wait a minute, where's the
judge Janine Piro on this list?
Speaker 5 (03:32):
She's at number eleven.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Number eleven, Okay, help yourself to the other ten if
you will. On the people list, all.
Speaker 6 (03:40):
Right, people discussed this week a news talk Radio Across America.
Number ten Elon Musk, He's fallen quite a bit. Number nine,
Janette n Shuwatt tied with Casey Means RFK Junior at
number eight, number seven this week jd Vance, number six,
Pope Leo the fourteenth, Number five, Keir Starmer and Mark
Karney tied there and number four Mike Johnson, number three
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Scott Descent and number two Jerome Powell. And of course
at number one, Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Yay, all right, signs that things are changing. I don't
think there are too many, although we haven't got Trump
so many times in the story list, but make no
mistake about it, it looks like a big time. The
deal continues with mister Trump at the focus at the
helm at the top the Alcatraz order from mister Trump,
(04:33):
I thought that, yes, I can think about was Clint Eastwood.
The first thing that came to my mind was that,
What was the first thing when you saw that or
heard that? What was the first thing but the first
picture that came into your mind Sean Connery or Clint
east With.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
Yeah, actually it was neither of those guys. I just
had this picture.
Speaker 6 (04:57):
I had this picture in my mind of an exceedingly
outdated building that the president wants to begin using again.
So I don't know the stories of what I've heard
is that the estimates of what it would cost to
make Alcatraz a usable prison again are pretty high and
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it doesn't really jive with efficiency.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Well, but that doesn't stop Trump when he has an
idea that he wants to pursue. And even though it might.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
Yeah, but the President also spitballs. He just throws stuff
up against the wall.
Speaker 6 (05:33):
And you know, I mean that that's been his mo
for a long time, and he just throws He gets
an idea in his head and says, hey, I think
I'm going to do this, and he says it out loud.
So that's kind of the you know, which is you know, challenging.
You don't know what he's serious about and what he's
just tossing out there.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Well, there's there's something to be said, if you will,
the idea of opening up Alcatraz. That would deter me
from if I thought I was gonna end up an Alcatraz.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
I don't. I don't see that.
Speaker 6 (06:03):
I see that. You know, going to prison stinks no
matter where you go to prison, it is I think
it's it's a cool tourist thing. It's you know, I
think it's frankly, my honest opinion, I think it's a
stupid idea, so let's just get it out there. Personally,
I think it's a stupid idea. I understand the theater
of it all and what he's trying to, you know,
because everyone has that in their minds, the most terrible
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place to go to jail.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
But I think prison stinks anywhere you go.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Well, that's actually that's probably pretty accurate and pretty much
a good way of seving them, unless you go to
the golf of course, that pretty much. That's what they
call the golf club in Mary in Illinois, where Pete
Rose went, and a number of others. There are a
couple of places of federal penitentiaries and art.
Speaker 6 (06:43):
So well there are, sure there are. There are people
who go to prison for white collar crimes. They're not
deemed to be dangerous.
Speaker 5 (06:48):
So yeah, that's Mark the Stewart.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Yeah right, And it didn't seem to have heard her,
and she's back on.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
Her brand, has never been better.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
No, she's doing a fine job.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
That's what we're doing wrong, Doug. I know we need
to go to prison.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
I'm going to have to put I'll have to do
something with my hair so that I look like Snoop Dog.
You can put on a wig and we'll be all
set where we go.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
Oh no, I'm gonna shave completely.
Speaker 6 (07:17):
I'm gonna be one of to go to those guys
who shaves his head and then just works out all day.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Okay, this is an idea too, Kevin Casey working out
all day at Talkers magazine. You can get this list
at talkers dot com. Every week stories and people that
are on the minds of the folks who are doing
the talk radio programs and listening as well. Number one
on the list the tariffs and the economy kind of
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all trade deals, so that we're on the table this week,
so one of them surface to the top. Now is
the time I'm going to be very excited to buy
a new range Rover because apparently I'll be able to
get it a lot less expensively thanks to this UK
trade deal. What about you want to Jaguar, Kevin, what
(08:01):
do you want? We got all kinds of British cars
that we can buy now.
Speaker 5 (08:04):
My friend had a British car back in the day
and he had to carry a toolbox in the trunk
or with it wherever he drove it.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
So no, thanks, that sounds like a Jaguar. I had
one of those once back in the nineteen eighties. Man,
they were they look good. Yeah, and when they ran, well.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
Yeah, notoriously broke down all the time. No, this was
a triumph.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Actually, oh yeah, those little things yeah cool? Yeah, or
and asked In Martin, I remember once. I can't. I
think it was Eddie, Eddie Murphy I saw on Sunset
Avenue driving and asked in Martin, And I thought, he
that's cool. How about that? Asked him. But they were
(08:46):
a little over the top in terms of a lot
of these cars are what was it? Somebody said the
other day they can now buy a Rolls Royce for
three hundred thirty five thousand dollars instead of three hundred
and fifty three, which is what it would have cost
under the old Tarra plane. Somebody actually did the math.
(09:07):
It's working, yeah, right, yes, it is for all those
people who belong to Mary a Lago. It works very well,
all right. So the deportation situation and the Alien Enemies Act,
whenever I see you know, we were just a second.
It was kind of musing on what you think about
(09:28):
when you think about the word of the name Alcatraz.
When I think of Alien, all they can think of
those monster those horrible monster movies.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
The actually the actual Alien series.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Yeah, did you ever see any of those?
Speaker 5 (09:43):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (09:43):
Yeah, actually I did. I saw the first one. Yeah,
it was pretty funny, those movies.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
I think I find it humorous, I mean, sary element
to it even at the time.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Here the hell.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
Now, well, the Alien Enemies Act obviously being be examined.
It's going to be examined in.
Speaker 6 (10:01):
Court, whether or not it applies to Venezuela and the
other places that President Trump believes we can just send
people back to. Obviously, that's the court situation and deportations.
All the stuff's working its way through courts in various situations.
And you know, there's a story here, a story there
based upon the jurisdiction.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Well, isn't there some suggestion this week that we go
to other countries even to set up prisons or to
have people go to even less des horable places than Venezuela.
Speaker 6 (10:33):
There have been I've heard, yes, mutterings and things like that,
But I think that there you never know what President
Trump's lawyers that he trusts are actually saying to him
about whether or not it's legal and feasible, because again,
the President likes to just say a lot of stuff,
and then he might just kind of ignore it if
he thinks that, well, it's not really likely.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
An interesting character for sure. One of the things that
bothers me of all of the things that have come
to the surf since January twentieth is the focus on
abortion or the focus on having more babies. They aren't
the same, obviously, but yet there's a connection between the
two of them. The women in your life, have they
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discussed that with you? Have you had any conversation with
anybody as you know that you're close to, about either
of those two items.
Speaker 6 (11:23):
I am very far past the age of bringing children
into the world, so no, I have not had any
discussions like that people who are of child bearing age.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
I know I have relatives who are having kids. You know.
Speaker 6 (11:34):
I've got I don't know, like three or four grand nieces.
I don't know what the numbers are. But the interesting
stories about why people are not having new children is
the more interesting story.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
I think.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Pope Leo the fourteenth is a surprising sports family. You know,
that's what I miss about all of this other stuff
that's on the list. We never get to sports stuff
much anymore, unless it's the Super Bowl or something like that.
But to be back in the good old days, when
there wasn't as much us a ride going on here, Kevin,
we would get one good sports story. Because sports talk
(12:07):
radio is so popular in many cities, sports talk radio
is more much more popular than regular issue oriented talk radio.
Speaker 6 (12:17):
And so I think the answer to your question, Doug,
is it is talked about on sports talk stations. You
kind of answer your own question there. And you know
what people did used to talk a bit more about
sports on news talk stations, and they still do. It
just doesn't take up the amount of time that the
rest of the stories that we've discussed today do. You know,
it just doesn't did something. It's a mention here and there.
(12:38):
It's really you know, as we can you know, just
for a little bit of history. If folks are listening
to this and didn't listen to talk radio twenty years ago,
there was a time when politics was not what was
talked about.
Speaker 5 (12:47):
Twenty four seven. It was.
Speaker 6 (12:49):
It was a bulk of it, but there was a
lot more discussion about just the stuff you would talk
about with your friends and loved ones, as opposed to
you know what's on the news talk TV channels at night.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Yeah right, I guess a little bit of enlightened. Well,
I don't know this is enlightenment, but certainly self serving.
My own talk radio carriers star out in nineteen seventy
four when it was kind of just beginning, and I
had great mentors in Boston with Gen Burns, Jerry Williams,
David Brudnoy, some of the people that to this day
(13:26):
were the best. And it was as you said, it
wasn't about politics, very often about personalities, but not about
politics per se. And so when I worked at the
KBC in the nineties, was wonderful to be around all
those people. Los Angeles never seems to have followed the talk.
The political talk stations in Los Angeles have never done squat.
(13:50):
They had all the same, you know, the same people
on a kind of second class station. But the KFI,
now KKBC doesn't even shot up on the rings anymore.
But the KFI has very interesting, great conversations all the
time about issues. It used to be remember Tomkis used
(14:13):
to say that Tom was another great talk radio host
who had big time in Los Angeles, talking about what
you really want to talk about. I remember that, and
so yeah, over the years has just kind of moved
away from all of that stuff. But it used to
be fun to talk. I mean, if I were on
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the air this week. I started, as I said, seventy four,
started doing the Good Day Program in nineteen eighty eight.
Limbos started his program Midday Program in August of eighty eight.
I started doing Good Day in October of eighty eight.
And what would have been number one with me, not
with him, but with me, would have been the Newark
airport situation. Because I fly a lot and just thinking
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about Newark and what a dirty, grungey place it is.
I'm sure you've been out of there from time to time.
Just the airport is just not.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
I had to layover there once. I thought I've only
been in Newark's airport once.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Yeah, right, Oh, the New York area airports maybe because
they're so trafficked. Laguadi is now going through a facelift,
but that's been a kind of a dirty place for
a long time. But the situation with the air traffic
control is something we really ought to talk about because
it does involve certainly a little bit of politics, maybe
a lot of it, depending on how you read into
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what's actually going on. So we'll get to that up next. Here,
as we have completed the first half hour of this
week's talk radio Countdown show, Radio.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Countdown, counting down what America is talking about, Welcome the
talk radio Countdown Show.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
All across America talk radio and the voices of freedom.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Don't stop talking, don't stop shop, don't.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Counting down the big stories and the people list on
talk radio. That's the job here of the Talk Radio
Countdown Show. I'm Doug Stefan. Kevin Casey, executive editor and
vice president at Talkers Magazine is here. I'm not sure
we finished talking about the pope. Maybe we need to
go back to the pope a little bit, if you
don't mind, before we go to Newark and talk about
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what's going on there and what that's a symptom of
the pope is an American and comes from Chicago. Seems
to have been very much a part of the landscape
when he was in Chicago. Does the idea of having
an American pope surprise you? And it seems to have
happened pretty quickly. It was only the second vote, I think, right,
(16:57):
I think.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
It's a third or whatever.
Speaker 6 (17:00):
Yes, it's surprising since he's the first American pope. Yeah,
I guess it is surprising.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
You know.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
I don't.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
I don't. I'm not going to claim to have a
lot of knowledge about the political machinations of the Vatican.
Speaker 6 (17:11):
I just it's just not my beat. So I don't
know enough about it. But I guess, you know, to Catholics,
it was a bit surprising because there's never been an
American pope. So, yeah, we'll see how he seems to
be a well liked guy, you know. Yeah, in generally
he seems to have a you know, a nice public,
outgoing personality. It's funny you see pope pictures of the
old popes, like from the early twentieth century, they all
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looked like they were extremely angry, like they just none
of they never smiled. They looked like these really serious guys.
So the fact that you see you know, Pope Leo
the fourteenth smiling, you know, in the first pictures we've
seen of him, is is an interesting thing compared to
the way it used to be, at least when I
was a kid going to Catholic schools.
Speaker 5 (17:53):
I remember pictures of the popes. They all look really angry.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Yeah, well, I think they may have had something stuck
somewhere that they didn't want so they'd stand up straight.
You never can tell the popes have done. One of
the things that is disconcerting about this, and that's the
last Pope was pretty clear, at least outwardly about the
whole business of the priest pedophile thing and what went on.
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The Pope was very concerned at first. I think I
said on the air, and Bob k who's producing this program.
I remember that many times as I talked about it,
looking at leaders, I always said I thought that Pope
was the best leader in the world. And the only
time I wavered from that was when he had when
he produced a homily at the funeral of Cardinal Law,
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who was the worst of the worst in terms of
priests and people in the Catholic Church, that covered up
pedophile and pedophilias, pedophiles and the church. And so that
came to me as a question about this pope and
apparently he's got a little bit of a problem without
how many people will focus on it or not but
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after Boston, which was number one in the pedophile problem
priest department, Chicago was a big number two. The Chicago
Archdiocese had they've paid off millions, tens of millions of
dollars to people in the Catholic Church, the boys that
and I guess young girls, but mostly boys who have
had that problem with priests, and apparently much of it
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in Chicago's history came under the watch of who is
a gentleman, who's now the pope. Who knows whether what
the numbers are. But it's just as disconcerting because that
still seems to be rattling around in the barrel, and
so hopefully it won't get in the way of him
doing There are plenty of other reasons to like this guy,
as you was saying, but he seems to be a
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much more strict if you read into between the lines.
He's a strict interpreter, more so than is the last
pope when it came to issues like the gay thing,
LGBTQ stuff, that's the wrap on him. Does that affect
what goes forward? Who knows what it's again these kinds
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of things. Yeah, yeah, all right, Speaking of time, we
don't have a lot of time when it comes to
things going on. I'm gonna travel. I'm on an airplane
again this weekend to go to the West coast, And
do I think about what I have read with regard
to what's going on in Newark and what went on
in Washington and what's going on is I'm on a
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plane flying across the country. Yeah, I think I do
think about it. I think most people do. And that's
one of the reasons in the last two three weeks,
since all this stuff about how badly are air traffic controllers.
Not only are what the conditions, the working conditions are bad,
but the equipment that they're using is way below par,
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way below what is the standard in Europe, let's say.
So you've got to wonder, what the hell are these
people that run the country thinking about what's more important
than something like that that's so visible, And yet it
looks to me like, unless I'm missing something, Trump is
sitting on his hands when it comes to this. You know,
they talk about we cut all of the jobs that
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are in the FAA, and they at the situation, the
cause the problem. In Washington at Reagan that night, there
was only one guy on duty, the supervisor had let
the other guy who was there go home, and so
one person was watching all the military air traffic there
and the commercial air traffic. And that's the number one
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reason the American government is being sued for hundreds and
hundreds of millions of dollars by the families of those
people that were killed in the helicopter and in the
airplane because of that kind of stupidity. How much does
it cost to have what's going to be the difference
in the cost between paying out suits like that versus
what it costs to actually run the thing the way
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it's supposed to be run.
Speaker 5 (22:11):
Well.
Speaker 6 (22:11):
Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy wants to fully modernize our antiquated
air traffic control system.
Speaker 5 (22:18):
That's the story. That's what this is about. That science
on the list this week, and the question is no
one knows how much it's going to cost.
Speaker 6 (22:24):
And in Washington, that is how everything works. They're estimating
about twelve point five billion to modernize the air traffic
control system over I don't know, like four years something
like that. But there's there's this group called Modern Sky's Coalition,
a bunch of aviation people, Pilots Association, representative stuff, like that.
Speaker 5 (22:42):
They think it's going to take like another.
Speaker 6 (22:44):
Eighteen billion plus that twelve point just to keep things
going for the next couple of years and to modernize.
So the answer to your question, Doug is it's it's money.
In Washington people you know, you know, they argue over money.
Speaker 5 (22:58):
That's that's whatever. It's what our government does. You know,
it's a.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Disgusting, disgraceful reality. It is. It's ridiculous. But yet that's
the And how do they justify it? I mean thinking
people would say that don't travel, well, I don't care,
I don't fly, you know, that kind of stuff. That
kind of ignorance and the kind of ignoramuses that would
say that. Just it's amazing, it really is that people
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are that far with their heads stuck where the sun
doesn't shine about stuff like this. It really is pretty amazing.
So anyhow, but it's being as you suggested, so well,
it's a very important hot topic. What do we do?
How do we fix it? It was the same when
Trump was president the first time. Actually, it's been a
problem since Reagan fired all of the air traffic controllers
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in nineteen eighty two, I think it was. And there
it has never been the same, nor has it been
right since I thought Reagan was right to fire all
of them because there was a no strike clause in
their contract, so they were on striking. Reagan's okay, Well
the contract says that you can't strike, so you're all
fired and we started from scratch. But what sort of
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politics as you're suggesting the money focus that's really go
back to the eighties, that's really when. And some of
the equipment, by the way that they're using today apparently
goes back to that era. So you got to know
that there's a lot of stuff that's changed, since I'm
not saying all of it is, but boy hoof all right,
we're focused on the things that you are focused on
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about the things that are front and center. The people
already you see folks that were put into place getting fired.
You know how long is maybe the highest People say, oh,
Musk didn't get fired. Yeah, he kind of did. It
was convenient that there was a rule that allowed him
(27:44):
to exit stage left. But are you surprised or not
with the people that are leaving and some of the
new folks that are coming in.
Speaker 5 (27:51):
Kevin, No, I'm not surprised. Really.
Speaker 6 (27:55):
Donald Trump's some first presidency and so far at the
beginning of this one and a lot of US other
corporation and so they seems to have a lot of churn.
So I don't you know, I don't know what to
attribute that to. That just seems to be the way
things go in the in the Trump sphere.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Right, And so you wonder about that the acting FEMA
chief has been replaced. That's one of the I thought
the more interesting ones this week. He didn't really have
the job, but he was there because Trump asked him
to go there. And then he voiced opposition to abolishing
the agency, which is what Trump wants to do. He said,
(28:33):
wait a minute, I'm inside here now, and I'm looking around,
and these people sometimes do very good work and very
necessary to be able to hold the country together in
case of disaster or disasters and so the like. Five
minutes after he said that, Okay, you're out fired, and
so there you go. See you later, alligator. You know
(28:54):
what else is happening. These pro Palestinian protests are back.
That's some of that. I thought Columbia. There was a
deal right with Columbia. You can't do this anymore. That's
what the deal was, in order to keep getting federal funds.
I miss something.
Speaker 5 (29:08):
Well, I think that's probably why this is such an issue.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Bingo, you're on top of it again, Kevin, all right,
tell him, yeah, I know there it is. All right.
So I'm going to talk to Steve and JJ Weismer
about that in just a second here on the countdown. Meanwhile,
our thanks to Kevin Casey from Talkers Magazine. Up next
to the legal aspects, important legal trends, if you will,
in the government, and other things that apply to our
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story list had Talkers.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
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and so I'm going to use that with Steven JJ Wiseman,
who is here. He's our legal editor at Talkers Magazine.
You've been connected with Talkers and with me and Talk
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My word is genesis, and the genesis of some of
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here we have the Department of Justice going to drop
the abortion pill suits. What does that mean number seven
(31:19):
this week on the list.
Speaker 7 (31:20):
You know, Doug, I wish I had an answer for that,
because that, to me was one of the most startling things.
This is a president who appointed people to the Supreme
Court with the goal of overturning roe versus Way, and
he was successful in doing so. And you know, there
are a lot of legal issues where you know, Roe
(31:41):
versus Weighed. You know, I'm in favor of a woman's
right to choose, but I'm not sure that Roe versus
Weighed legally was done in a manner to appropriate that.
But the key thing here is he's continually supported laws
to make it more difficult or abortions. Now much of
(32:02):
the country is in favor of a woman's right to choose.
Nobody's in favor of abortion, but it's something that you know,
should not necessarily be illegal and should be the option
of the woman. So he's kind of countered back and said, well, no,
this is something that the states should do. They should
take the lead, and that way he kind of removes
himself from the politics of it. But his administration had
(32:26):
taken action to stop the use of abortion pills, which
would be allowed to be used in states even where
abortioned by surgeries were illegal, and then without any kind
of announcement, the Justice Environment says, oh, no, we're not
going forward with that. So in effect, he is giving
some support to those in support of abortion. I think
(32:49):
it's a blatant political move. Certainly anti abortion people can't
be very happy with it, but it just shows, you know,
if there is one thing that Donald Trump is is
he's a political animal and he can read which way
the wind blows.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
I was thinking he was a comeleon. Maybe that too.
Speaker 7 (33:09):
Yeah, there's a lot of brown and orange there is.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Okay, So number two this week on the countdown list,
the Alien Enemies Act. I mentioned earlier in the program.
When I think of aliens. I think of those horrible movies,
but that's not really what this is about. We're using
alien in a different way here. So what do you
how do you what do you read into that all
of that stuff, the deportations, et cetera.
Speaker 7 (33:33):
This is something where I keep coming back to that
great quote of Mark Twain, which I've done, unfortunately so often,
saying the opposite of progress is Congress. What Trump has
done is he's expanded the power of the presidency into
areas where it had not been used before because we
generally with checks and balances, Congress had authority. So a
(33:56):
lot of the things, particularly in regards to the deportations,
he's taking these as emergency actions under anti terrorism and
for national security. Most laughable one recently was his increasing
of tariffs for foreign movies under the idea under the
(34:16):
aegis of you know, it's we're stopping terrorism. I really
hadn't gone to see many Isis movies lately, but I
don't think that's an issue. So the thing is, these
laws were meant to give the president temporary powers in
emergency times. It isn't an emergency, it's not a national
security threat for any of these things that he's doing,
(34:36):
particularly regarding the deportations in tariffs. But he's using that
emergency power, and Congress, which has the authority to step
in and stop it. Now after a number of days,
generally like sixty days, has done nothing. One vote where
they went down. So there's no basis for this legally.
But until you know, someone challenges it, and even if
(34:59):
they challenge, they say, well, Congress has the power to
do something, so therefore what he's doing is not illegal.
So shame on Congress.
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You are free to listen to this program and don't
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here on the Talk Radio Countdown Show. I'm Doug Stefan.
Kevin Casey sits in for Michael Harrison this week. He
is the executive editor vice president. Let's see what other
(01:38):
titles can we be Kevin, let's come up with a
few more titles for you. I think you should. You
deserve lots of titles. I appreciate that first person to
serve in the second position a talker's magazine. How's that?
That's pretty good?
Speaker 5 (01:53):
Hell, a little clumsy, but it's accurate.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Oh listen, I'm known for being clumsy, so that's an
okay thing, all right. So we have the charts here
for the week of May fifth to the ninth, first
full week of the month of May. Lots of rain,
lots of weather, lots of things like that going on.
But that doesn't get in the way of mister Trump
(02:18):
and the Pope, I would say, and they are surprisingly
not the same person, although there was an attempt too,
I think make people think, hey, Donald Trump, you made
a good pope too. All right, So let's go through
the story list, Kevin, if we may people and give
people the one two threes of it, if you will.
Speaker 6 (02:39):
Top stories as discussed on news talk radio across this
great land of ours. Number ten this week, Columbia pro
Palestinian protests and number nine Surgeon General nominee. Number eight,
Trump's Alcatraz order at number seven, doj to drop abortion
pill suits Number six, Conclave alex new Pope, number five,
(03:01):
tie Newark airport woes and air traffic control staffing at
number four, India Pakistan tensions tied with the Russia Ukraine
war number three this week, the Big Beautiful Bill and
the Medicaid cuts. Number two, Alien Enemies Act and deportations,
and at number one this week, a three way tie tariffs,
(03:22):
the economy and the UK trade deal.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Will be all right, Go wait a minute, where's the
judge Janine Piro on this list?
Speaker 5 (03:32):
She's at number eleven.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Number eleven, Okay, help yourself to the other ten if
you will. On the people list, all.
Speaker 6 (03:40):
Right, people discussed this week a news talk Radio Across America.
Number ten Elon Musk, He's fallen quite a bit. Number nine,
Janette n Shuwatt tied with Casey Means RFK Junior at
number eight, number seven this week jd Vance, number six,
Pope Leo the fourteenth, Number five, Keir Starmer and Mark
Karney tied there and number four Mike Johnson, number three
(04:02):
Scott Descent and number two Jerome Powell. And of course
at number one, Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Yay, all right, signs that things are changing. I don't
think there are too many, although we haven't got Trump
so many times in the story list, but make no
mistake about it, it looks like a big time. The
deal continues with mister Trump at the focus at the
helm at the top the Alcatraz order from mister Trump,
(04:33):
I thought that, yes, I can think about was Clint Eastwood.
The first thing that came to my mind was that,
What was the first thing when you saw that or
heard that? What was the first thing but the first
picture that came into your mind Sean Connery or Clint
east With.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
Yeah, actually it was neither of those guys. I just
had this picture.
Speaker 6 (04:57):
I had this picture in my mind of an exceedingly
outdated building that the president wants to begin using again.
So I don't know the stories of what I've heard
is that the estimates of what it would cost to
make Alcatraz a usable prison again are pretty high and
(05:17):
it doesn't really jive with efficiency.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Well, but that doesn't stop Trump when he has an
idea that he wants to pursue. And even though it might.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
Yeah, but the President also spitballs. He just throws stuff
up against the wall.
Speaker 6 (05:33):
And you know, I mean that that's been his mo
for a long time, and he just throws He gets
an idea in his head and says, hey, I think
I'm going to do this, and he says it out loud.
So that's kind of the you know, which is you know, challenging.
You don't know what he's serious about and what he's
just tossing out there.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Well, there's there's something to be said, if you will,
the idea of opening up Alcatraz. That would deter me
from if I thought I was gonna end up an Alcatraz.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
I don't. I don't see that.
Speaker 6 (06:03):
I see that. You know, going to prison stinks no
matter where you go to prison, it is I think
it's it's a cool tourist thing. It's you know, I
think it's frankly, my honest opinion, I think it's a
stupid idea, so let's just get it out there. Personally,
I think it's a stupid idea. I understand the theater
of it all and what he's trying to, you know,
because everyone has that in their minds, the most terrible
(06:23):
place to go to jail.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
But I think prison stinks anywhere you go.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Well, that's actually that's probably pretty accurate and pretty much
a good way of seving them, unless you go to
the golf of course, that pretty much. That's what they
call the golf club in Mary in Illinois, where Pete
Rose went, and a number of others. There are a
couple of places of federal penitentiaries and art.
Speaker 6 (06:43):
So well there are, sure there are. There are people
who go to prison for white collar crimes. They're not
deemed to be dangerous.
Speaker 5 (06:48):
So yeah, that's Mark the Stewart.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Yeah right, And it didn't seem to have heard her,
and she's back on.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
Her brand, has never been better.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
No, she's doing a fine job.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
That's what we're doing wrong, Doug. I know we need
to go to prison.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
I'm going to have to put I'll have to do
something with my hair so that I look like Snoop Dog.
You can put on a wig and we'll be all
set where we go.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
Oh no, I'm gonna shave completely.
Speaker 6 (07:17):
I'm gonna be one of to go to those guys
who shaves his head and then just works out all day.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Okay, this is an idea too, Kevin Casey working out
all day at Talkers magazine. You can get this list
at talkers dot com. Every week stories and people that
are on the minds of the folks who are doing
the talk radio programs and listening as well. Number one
on the list the tariffs and the economy kind of
(07:41):
all trade deals, so that we're on the table this week,
so one of them surface to the top. Now is
the time I'm going to be very excited to buy
a new range Rover because apparently I'll be able to
get it a lot less expensively thanks to this UK
trade deal. What about you want to Jaguar, Kevin, what
(08:01):
do you want? We got all kinds of British cars
that we can buy now.
Speaker 5 (08:04):
My friend had a British car back in the day
and he had to carry a toolbox in the trunk
or with it wherever he drove it.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
So no, thanks, that sounds like a Jaguar. I had
one of those once back in the nineteen eighties. Man,
they were they look good. Yeah, and when they ran, well.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
Yeah, notoriously broke down all the time. No, this was
a triumph.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Actually, oh yeah, those little things yeah cool? Yeah, or
and asked In Martin, I remember once. I can't. I
think it was Eddie, Eddie Murphy I saw on Sunset
Avenue driving and asked in Martin, And I thought, he
that's cool. How about that? Asked him. But they were
(08:46):
a little over the top in terms of a lot
of these cars are what was it? Somebody said the
other day they can now buy a Rolls Royce for
three hundred thirty five thousand dollars instead of three hundred
and fifty three, which is what it would have cost
under the old Tarra plane. Somebody actually did the math.
(09:07):
It's working, yeah, right, yes, it is for all those
people who belong to Mary a Lago. It works very well,
all right. So the deportation situation and the Alien Enemies Act,
whenever I see you know, we were just a second.
It was kind of musing on what you think about
(09:28):
when you think about the word of the name Alcatraz.
When I think of Alien, all they can think of
those monster those horrible monster movies.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
The actually the actual Alien series.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Yeah, did you ever see any of those?
Speaker 5 (09:43):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (09:43):
Yeah, actually I did. I saw the first one. Yeah,
it was pretty funny, those movies.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
I think I find it humorous, I mean, sary element
to it even at the time.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Here the hell.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
Now, well, the Alien Enemies Act obviously being be examined.
It's going to be examined in.
Speaker 6 (10:01):
Court, whether or not it applies to Venezuela and the
other places that President Trump believes we can just send
people back to. Obviously, that's the court situation and deportations.
All the stuff's working its way through courts in various situations.
And you know, there's a story here, a story there
based upon the jurisdiction.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Well, isn't there some suggestion this week that we go
to other countries even to set up prisons or to
have people go to even less des horable places than Venezuela.
Speaker 6 (10:33):
There have been I've heard, yes, mutterings and things like that,
But I think that there you never know what President
Trump's lawyers that he trusts are actually saying to him
about whether or not it's legal and feasible, because again,
the President likes to just say a lot of stuff,
and then he might just kind of ignore it if
he thinks that, well, it's not really likely.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
An interesting character for sure. One of the things that
bothers me of all of the things that have come
to the surf since January twentieth is the focus on
abortion or the focus on having more babies. They aren't
the same, obviously, but yet there's a connection between the
two of them. The women in your life, have they
(11:16):
discussed that with you? Have you had any conversation with
anybody as you know that you're close to, about either
of those two items.
Speaker 6 (11:23):
I am very far past the age of bringing children
into the world, so no, I have not had any
discussions like that people who are of child bearing age.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
I know I have relatives who are having kids. You know.
Speaker 6 (11:34):
I've got I don't know, like three or four grand nieces.
I don't know what the numbers are. But the interesting
stories about why people are not having new children is
the more interesting story.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
I think.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Pope Leo the fourteenth is a surprising sports family. You know,
that's what I miss about all of this other stuff
that's on the list. We never get to sports stuff
much anymore, unless it's the Super Bowl or something like that.
But to be back in the good old days, when
there wasn't as much us a ride going on here, Kevin,
we would get one good sports story. Because sports talk
(12:07):
radio is so popular in many cities, sports talk radio
is more much more popular than regular issue oriented talk radio.
Speaker 6 (12:17):
And so I think the answer to your question, Doug,
is it is talked about on sports talk stations. You
kind of answer your own question there. And you know
what people did used to talk a bit more about
sports on news talk stations, and they still do. It
just doesn't take up the amount of time that the
rest of the stories that we've discussed today do. You know,
it just doesn't did something. It's a mention here and there.
(12:38):
It's really you know, as we can you know, just
for a little bit of history. If folks are listening
to this and didn't listen to talk radio twenty years ago,
there was a time when politics was not what was
talked about.
Speaker 5 (12:47):
Twenty four seven. It was.
Speaker 6 (12:49):
It was a bulk of it, but there was a
lot more discussion about just the stuff you would talk
about with your friends and loved ones, as opposed to
you know what's on the news talk TV channels at night.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Yeah right, I guess a little bit of enlightened. Well,
I don't know this is enlightenment, but certainly self serving.
My own talk radio carriers star out in nineteen seventy
four when it was kind of just beginning, and I
had great mentors in Boston with Gen Burns, Jerry Williams,
David Brudnoy, some of the people that to this day
(13:26):
were the best. And it was as you said, it
wasn't about politics, very often about personalities, but not about
politics per se. And so when I worked at the
KBC in the nineties, was wonderful to be around all
those people. Los Angeles never seems to have followed the talk.
The political talk stations in Los Angeles have never done squat.
(13:50):
They had all the same, you know, the same people
on a kind of second class station. But the KFI,
now KKBC doesn't even shot up on the rings anymore.
But the KFI has very interesting, great conversations all the
time about issues. It used to be remember Tomkis used
(14:13):
to say that Tom was another great talk radio host
who had big time in Los Angeles, talking about what
you really want to talk about. I remember that, and
so yeah, over the years has just kind of moved
away from all of that stuff. But it used to
be fun to talk. I mean, if I were on
(14:34):
the air this week. I started, as I said, seventy four,
started doing the Good Day Program in nineteen eighty eight.
Limbos started his program Midday Program in August of eighty eight.
I started doing Good Day in October of eighty eight.
And what would have been number one with me, not
with him, but with me, would have been the Newark
airport situation. Because I fly a lot and just thinking
(14:58):
about Newark and what a dirty, grungey place it is.
I'm sure you've been out of there from time to time.
Just the airport is just not.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
I had to layover there once. I thought I've only
been in Newark's airport once.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Yeah, right, Oh, the New York area airports maybe because
they're so trafficked. Laguadi is now going through a facelift,
but that's been a kind of a dirty place for
a long time. But the situation with the air traffic
control is something we really ought to talk about because
it does involve certainly a little bit of politics, maybe
a lot of it, depending on how you read into
(15:35):
what's actually going on. So we'll get to that up next. Here,
as we have completed the first half hour of this
week's talk radio Countdown show, Radio.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Countdown, counting down what America is talking about, Welcome the
talk radio Countdown Show.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
All across America talk radio and the voices of freedom.
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Don't stop talking, don't stop shop, don't.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Counting down the big stories and the people list on
talk radio. That's the job here of the Talk Radio
Countdown Show. I'm Doug Stefan. Kevin Casey, executive editor and
vice president at Talkers Magazine is here. I'm not sure
we finished talking about the pope. Maybe we need to
go back to the pope a little bit, if you
don't mind, before we go to Newark and talk about
(16:35):
what's going on there and what that's a symptom of
the pope is an American and comes from Chicago. Seems
to have been very much a part of the landscape
when he was in Chicago. Does the idea of having
an American pope surprise you? And it seems to have
happened pretty quickly. It was only the second vote, I think, right,
(16:57):
I think.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
It's a third or whatever.
Speaker 6 (17:00):
Yes, it's surprising since he's the first American pope. Yeah,
I guess it is surprising.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
You know.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
I don't.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
I don't. I'm not going to claim to have a
lot of knowledge about the political machinations of the Vatican.
Speaker 6 (17:11):
I just it's just not my beat. So I don't
know enough about it. But I guess, you know, to Catholics,
it was a bit surprising because there's never been an
American pope. So, yeah, we'll see how he seems to
be a well liked guy, you know. Yeah, in generally
he seems to have a you know, a nice public,
outgoing personality. It's funny you see pope pictures of the
old popes, like from the early twentieth century, they all
(17:35):
looked like they were extremely angry, like they just none
of they never smiled. They looked like these really serious guys.
So the fact that you see you know, Pope Leo
the fourteenth smiling, you know, in the first pictures we've
seen of him, is is an interesting thing compared to
the way it used to be, at least when I
was a kid going to Catholic schools.
Speaker 5 (17:53):
I remember pictures of the popes. They all look really angry.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Yeah, well, I think they may have had something stuck
somewhere that they didn't want so they'd stand up straight.
You never can tell the popes have done. One of
the things that is disconcerting about this, and that's the
last Pope was pretty clear, at least outwardly about the
whole business of the priest pedophile thing and what went on.
(18:20):
The Pope was very concerned at first. I think I
said on the air, and Bob k who's producing this program.
I remember that many times as I talked about it,
looking at leaders, I always said I thought that Pope
was the best leader in the world. And the only
time I wavered from that was when he had when
he produced a homily at the funeral of Cardinal Law,
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who was the worst of the worst in terms of
priests and people in the Catholic Church, that covered up
pedophile and pedophilias, pedophiles and the church. And so that
came to me as a question about this pope and
apparently he's got a little bit of a problem without
how many people will focus on it or not but
(19:06):
after Boston, which was number one in the pedophile problem
priest department, Chicago was a big number two. The Chicago
Archdiocese had they've paid off millions, tens of millions of
dollars to people in the Catholic Church, the boys that
and I guess young girls, but mostly boys who have
had that problem with priests, and apparently much of it
(19:30):
in Chicago's history came under the watch of who is
a gentleman, who's now the pope. Who knows whether what
the numbers are. But it's just as disconcerting because that
still seems to be rattling around in the barrel, and
so hopefully it won't get in the way of him
doing There are plenty of other reasons to like this guy,
as you was saying, but he seems to be a
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much more strict if you read into between the lines.
He's a strict interpreter, more so than is the last
pope when it came to issues like the gay thing,
LGBTQ stuff, that's the wrap on him. Does that affect
what goes forward? Who knows what it's again these kinds
(20:16):
of things. Yeah, yeah, all right, Speaking of time, we
don't have a lot of time when it comes to
things going on. I'm gonna travel. I'm on an airplane
again this weekend to go to the West coast, And
do I think about what I have read with regard
to what's going on in Newark and what went on
in Washington and what's going on is I'm on a
(20:39):
plane flying across the country. Yeah, I think I do
think about it. I think most people do. And that's
one of the reasons in the last two three weeks,
since all this stuff about how badly are air traffic controllers.
Not only are what the conditions, the working conditions are bad,
but the equipment that they're using is way below par,
(21:01):
way below what is the standard in Europe, let's say.
So you've got to wonder, what the hell are these
people that run the country thinking about what's more important
than something like that that's so visible, And yet it
looks to me like, unless I'm missing something, Trump is
sitting on his hands when it comes to this. You know,
they talk about we cut all of the jobs that
(21:24):
are in the FAA, and they at the situation, the
cause the problem. In Washington at Reagan that night, there
was only one guy on duty, the supervisor had let
the other guy who was there go home, and so
one person was watching all the military air traffic there
and the commercial air traffic. And that's the number one
(21:46):
reason the American government is being sued for hundreds and
hundreds of millions of dollars by the families of those
people that were killed in the helicopter and in the
airplane because of that kind of stupidity. How much does
it cost to have what's going to be the difference
in the cost between paying out suits like that versus
what it costs to actually run the thing the way
(22:08):
it's supposed to be run.
Speaker 5 (22:11):
Well.
Speaker 6 (22:11):
Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy wants to fully modernize our antiquated
air traffic control system.
Speaker 5 (22:18):
That's the story. That's what this is about. That science
on the list this week, and the question is no
one knows how much it's going to cost.
Speaker 6 (22:24):
And in Washington, that is how everything works. They're estimating
about twelve point five billion to modernize the air traffic
control system over I don't know, like four years something
like that. But there's there's this group called Modern Sky's Coalition,
a bunch of aviation people, Pilots Association, representative stuff, like that.
Speaker 5 (22:42):
They think it's going to take like another.
Speaker 6 (22:44):
Eighteen billion plus that twelve point just to keep things
going for the next couple of years and to modernize.
So the answer to your question, Doug is it's it's money.
In Washington people you know, you know, they argue over money.
Speaker 5 (22:58):
That's that's whatever. It's what our government does. You know,
it's a.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Disgusting, disgraceful reality. It is. It's ridiculous. But yet that's
the And how do they justify it? I mean thinking
people would say that don't travel, well, I don't care,
I don't fly, you know, that kind of stuff. That
kind of ignorance and the kind of ignoramuses that would
say that. Just it's amazing, it really is that people
(23:23):
are that far with their heads stuck where the sun
doesn't shine about stuff like this. It really is pretty amazing.
So anyhow, but it's being as you suggested, so well,
it's a very important hot topic. What do we do?
How do we fix it? It was the same when
Trump was president the first time. Actually, it's been a
problem since Reagan fired all of the air traffic controllers
(23:45):
in nineteen eighty two, I think it was. And there
it has never been the same, nor has it been
right since I thought Reagan was right to fire all
of them because there was a no strike clause in
their contract, so they were on striking. Reagan's okay, Well
the contract says that you can't strike, so you're all
fired and we started from scratch. But what sort of
(24:08):
politics as you're suggesting the money focus that's really go
back to the eighties, that's really when. And some of
the equipment, by the way that they're using today apparently
goes back to that era. So you got to know
that there's a lot of stuff that's changed, since I'm
not saying all of it is, but boy hoof all right,
we're focused on the things that you are focused on
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about the things that are front and center. The people
already you see folks that were put into place getting fired.
You know how long is maybe the highest People say, oh,
Musk didn't get fired. Yeah, he kind of did. It
was convenient that there was a rule that allowed him
(27:44):
to exit stage left. But are you surprised or not
with the people that are leaving and some of the
new folks that are coming in.
Speaker 5 (27:51):
Kevin, No, I'm not surprised. Really.
Speaker 6 (27:55):
Donald Trump's some first presidency and so far at the
beginning of this one and a lot of US other
corporation and so they seems to have a lot of churn.
So I don't you know, I don't know what to
attribute that to. That just seems to be the way
things go in the in the Trump sphere.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Right, And so you wonder about that the acting FEMA
chief has been replaced. That's one of the I thought
the more interesting ones this week. He didn't really have
the job, but he was there because Trump asked him
to go there. And then he voiced opposition to abolishing
the agency, which is what Trump wants to do. He said,
(28:33):
wait a minute, I'm inside here now, and I'm looking around,
and these people sometimes do very good work and very
necessary to be able to hold the country together in
case of disaster or disasters and so the like. Five
minutes after he said that, Okay, you're out fired, and
so there you go. See you later, alligator. You know
(28:54):
what else is happening. These pro Palestinian protests are back.
That's some of that. I thought Columbia. There was a
deal right with Columbia. You can't do this anymore. That's
what the deal was, in order to keep getting federal funds.
I miss something.
Speaker 5 (29:08):
Well, I think that's probably why this is such an issue.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Bingo, you're on top of it again, Kevin, all right,
tell him, yeah, I know there it is. All right.
So I'm going to talk to Steve and JJ Weismer
about that in just a second here on the countdown. Meanwhile,
our thanks to Kevin Casey from Talkers Magazine. Up next
to the legal aspects, important legal trends, if you will,
in the government, and other things that apply to our
(29:36):
story list had Talkers.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
We're counting down what Americ is talking about. The Talk
Radio Countdown Show continues the countdown.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
I'm told one of the ways to keep your mind
active is to use a new word every day, or
to use a word that you have not used very often,
and so I'm going to use that with Steven JJ Wiseman,
who is here. He's our legal editor at Talkers Magazine.
You've been connected with Talkers and with me and Talk
Radio Countdown Show for decades. He's a lawyer, practices and
(30:11):
also teaches at Bentley University here in the Boston area.
My word is genesis, and the genesis of some of
these stories, the origin of them happens to be the
legal side. That's why Steve is here. By the way,
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go to talk Radio, Countdown Show dot com. Okay, so
here we have the Department of Justice going to drop
the abortion pill suits. What does that mean number seven
(31:19):
this week on the list.
Speaker 7 (31:20):
You know, Doug, I wish I had an answer for that,
because that, to me was one of the most startling things.
This is a president who appointed people to the Supreme
Court with the goal of overturning roe versus Way, and
he was successful in doing so. And you know, there
are a lot of legal issues where you know, Roe
(31:41):
versus Weighed. You know, I'm in favor of a woman's
right to choose, but I'm not sure that Roe versus
Weighed legally was done in a manner to appropriate that.
But the key thing here is he's continually supported laws
to make it more difficult or abortions. Now much of
(32:02):
the country is in favor of a woman's right to choose.
Nobody's in favor of abortion, but it's something that you know,
should not necessarily be illegal and should be the option
of the woman. So he's kind of countered back and said, well, no,
this is something that the states should do. They should
take the lead, and that way he kind of removes
himself from the politics of it. But his administration had
(32:26):
taken action to stop the use of abortion pills, which
would be allowed to be used in states even where
abortioned by surgeries were illegal, and then without any kind
of announcement, the Justice Environment says, oh, no, we're not
going forward with that. So in effect, he is giving
some support to those in support of abortion. I think
(32:49):
it's a blatant political move. Certainly anti abortion people can't
be very happy with it, but it just shows, you know,
if there is one thing that Donald Trump is is
he's a political animal and he can read which way
the wind blows.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
I was thinking he was a comeleon. Maybe that too.
Speaker 7 (33:09):
Yeah, there's a lot of brown and orange there is.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Okay, So number two this week on the countdown list,
the Alien Enemies Act. I mentioned earlier in the program.
When I think of aliens. I think of those horrible movies,
but that's not really what this is about. We're using
alien in a different way here. So what do you
how do you what do you read into that all
of that stuff, the deportations, et cetera.
Speaker 7 (33:33):
This is something where I keep coming back to that
great quote of Mark Twain, which I've done, unfortunately so often,
saying the opposite of progress is Congress. What Trump has
done is he's expanded the power of the presidency into
areas where it had not been used before because we
generally with checks and balances, Congress had authority. So a
(33:56):
lot of the things, particularly in regards to the deportations,
he's taking these as emergency actions under anti terrorism and
for national security. Most laughable one recently was his increasing
of tariffs for foreign movies under the idea under the
(34:16):
aegis of you know, it's we're stopping terrorism. I really
hadn't gone to see many Isis movies lately, but I
don't think that's an issue. So the thing is, these
laws were meant to give the president temporary powers in
emergency times. It isn't an emergency, it's not a national
security threat for any of these things that he's doing,
(34:36):
particularly regarding the deportations in tariffs. But he's using that
emergency power, and Congress, which has the authority to step
in and stop it. Now after a number of days,
generally like sixty days, has done nothing. One vote where
they went down. So there's no basis for this legally.
But until you know, someone challenges it, and even if
(34:59):
they challenge, they say, well, Congress has the power to
do something, so therefore what he's doing is not illegal.
So shame on Congress.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
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