May 16, 2025 • 37 mins
5/17/25 - Trump's Middle East Trip Tops This Week's List
Host Doug Stephan along with Michael Harrison, Editor/Publisher of Talkers Magazine, review the most talked about stories and people on news/talk radio for the week of May 12th, 2025 through May 16th, 2025. Compiled by the research department at Talkers Magazine - The Bible of Talk Radio and the New Talk Media - www.talkers.com
STORIES/TOPICS
Host Doug Stephan along with Michael Harrison, Editor/Publisher of Talkers Magazine, review the most talked about stories and people on news/talk radio for the week of May 12th, 2025 through May 16th, 2025. Compiled by the research department at Talkers Magazine - The Bible of Talk Radio and the New Talk Media - www.talkers.com
STORIES/TOPICS
- Trump’s Middle East Trip
- Big, Beautiful Bill / Medicaid Cuts
- Birthright Citizenship Case / Universal Injunctions
- Alien Enemies Act / Deportations / WI Judge Case
- Tariffs / U.S.-China Trade War
- Russia-Ukraine Peace Talks
- Tapper & Thompson’s Biden Book
- Air Traffic Control Troubles
- Diddy Trial
- Menendez Brothers Case
- Donald Trump
- Mike Johnson
- Clarence Thomas / Brett Kavanaugh / Amy Coney Barrett
- Hannah Dugan
- Xi Jimping
- Volodymyr Zelenski / Vladimir Putin
- Joe Biden / David Plouffe
- Sean Duffy
- Sean "Diddy" Combs / Cassie Ventura
- Eric and Lyle Menendez
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (01:07):
Counting Down what America is talking about? Welcome to the
Talk radio Countdown show.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
All across America talk radio at the voices of freedom.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
Don't stop talking, don't stop sharing.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
All right, let's get down of business here on the
Don't Talk Radio Countdown Show. I'm Doug Stephan with Michael Harrison,
a editor and publisher of Talkers magazine. Here to go
through the charts for this past week, the week of
Made the twelfth through the sixteenth. If you are new
to the program, that charts are published at talkers dot
com and they are the work a sort of an
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aggregate of information put together by the staff at Talkers
after having talked to and listened to a lot of
talk radio stations in the country. We come up with
a top ten story list and the list of people
that are kind of for the most part, associated with
those stories. So in order to get that going, get
the ball bouncing, get us talking, not that we ever
(02:06):
have a real problem getting ourselves into a talk mode.
Michael's here to get to the specific So okay, Michael,
take it away, please.
Speaker 6 (02:14):
It's good to be with you.
Speaker 7 (02:15):
And it was another exciting week of conversation on radio
stations just like the one that we're being broadcast to
our listeners on at this very moment. At number ten
we have the Menendez brother's case. At number nine we
have the Ditty Trials.
Speaker 6 (02:29):
We have some real court TV on radio for everybody.
Speaker 7 (02:36):
At number eight we have the air traffic control problems
at number seven, the Taper and Thompson book about Biden
at number six, the Russia quint Peace talks at number five,
the tariffs and the US China trade war at number four,
the Alien Enemies Act, tied with deportations, and in the
Wisconsin the Wisconsin Judge case at number three, the birth
(03:00):
right citizenship case and universal injunctions, and number two the
Big Beautiful Bill and Medicaid cuts. And number one we
have a Big Beautiful Bill, and number one we have
the Trump Middle East trip and on the people survey.
At number ten we have Eric and Lyle Mendez. And
number nine we have Sean Ditty Combs tied with Cassie Ventura.
(03:24):
And number eight we have Sean Duffy. One of the
odds of there being a Sean Diddy and a Sean
Duffy next to each other on the charge the typo.
Speaker 6 (03:31):
But yeah, it just turned out that way. That's the
way the numbers crunched.
Speaker 7 (03:36):
It was like, what and then at number seven we
have Joe Biden and David Plouff. Vladimir Zelenski and Vladimir
Putin are at number six, Xi Jiangping at five, Hannah
Dugan at four, and number three Clarence Thomas Begg, Kevanaugh
and Amy Conek Barrett. They're tied at number three, Number two,
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Mike Johnson, number one, Donald Trump.
Speaker 6 (04:01):
A lot of interesting characters.
Speaker 7 (04:02):
Floating around in the fraction points of information between these names.
This was a This was a tough week for us
to come up with a top ten shot of people,
because each one of those stories has a whole variety
of personalities attached to them.
Speaker 6 (04:17):
So this is the best we can do it.
Speaker 7 (04:19):
It's an interesting snapshot of a lot of activity on
the nation's airwaves.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Personality, charm and personality, love and warm personality. That may
be said for some of them and maybe not for others.
So let's dig right into the number one story this week,
Michael the president's trip to the Middle East and the
hoopla about the four hundred million dollar plane, which I
think is complete nonsense, and it was, but it was
(04:46):
already made thing for the other side to start throwing
rotten apples at the Republicans who are at the president anyway,
as far as the takeaways other things that are put
together at this point, hard to get a re because
it's hard to get the real story out of most
of the news media. So how much business was really done?
(05:08):
How much did we really get out of the President's
tour to the Middle East? Certainly there was lots of opulence,
and we all know that Trump loves that sort of stuff.
Speaker 7 (05:19):
I think that what it does is it it created
It created benefits.
Speaker 6 (05:23):
For for Trump.
Speaker 7 (05:24):
Of course, very hard to tell the It's very hard
to tell the difference between what was good for America
and what was good for Trump and his family.
Speaker 6 (05:32):
That's what I think is the key, the key to
the issue.
Speaker 7 (05:35):
And when you take it out of the partisan rome
and you look at it objectively.
Speaker 6 (05:40):
There's a lot.
Speaker 7 (05:40):
There's a lot to uh to wonder about when it
comes to who was the beneficiary of this trip, the
American people or the American president.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Well, who's to say they can't both benefit? The line
is so blurry now thanks to Trump and all of
his activities, since he not only from the first turn,
but now he's really gotten into activity that crosses the
line in this administration. So where and is anybody going
to stand up to him? There are a few people,
(06:11):
a couple of judges and stuff that in the long
shot that may have some input. You know that the
courts say one person can't make a judgment to do
all of this stuff, to stop the things that Trump
has started, the legal battles, I think, and I'll ask
Steven JJ Wiseman about this later on in the countdown,
(06:33):
is kind of wimpy you want to stand up to
this guy or not? Or are people just throwing up
their hands? Are people giving in and giving up too easily?
There's lots of talk, but where's the action to take
this president not down, but to put him in his place,
if that's what needs to have a lot of people think, hey,
(06:54):
this is great, but they don't understand the constitution. They
don't understand the rule of law. Most of the people
that are that are on the Trump bag, the maga,
the whole the bus, if you will, the marching band
for Trump.
Speaker 6 (07:12):
All these people they don't care about the bandwagon.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Yeah, the band I don't care about.
Speaker 6 (07:17):
Wonder well.
Speaker 7 (07:18):
People are afraid of the consequences of the presidency. People
are afraid of being audited. People are afraid of being targeted,
people are afraid of being humiliated.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
But why should they be? Why? Why is that? Why
is Trump getting away with all of that stuff.
Speaker 7 (07:36):
That's what happens when you when you go against Trump,
you get targeted, you get that, you get humiliated, you
become it's very difficult to battle the United States government
when when they come to the force, aren't the.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
People of the United States government? Aren't we supposed to
be We're the ones who elected supposedly or put people
into positions of power. Or is that long gone too,
because as we aren't really aware of the constitution, it
isn't being taught in schools anymore. This almost seems like
a deliberate delibery on the part of some a deliberate
attempt to destroy the country. You could make that.
Speaker 7 (08:13):
Argument, well, a lot of people are making that argument,
but it's a theoretical argument. In the day to day
practice of power, people are frightened, and this is how.
Speaker 6 (08:24):
Dictatorships get started.
Speaker 7 (08:26):
You see, if a lot of people are still lost
back in the dust of ancient history. Ancient history being
the left versus the right, the liberals versus the conservatives,
the Democrats versus the Republicans, partisanship bias, all that stuff.
We're not talking about that anymore. We're talking about the constitution.
We're talking about the bones of the nation, the structure,
(08:47):
the skeleton, the architecture of how a constitutional republic is designed. Well,
that's the issue now here at this moment. Some people
are still going, oh, the pros is out to good
Trump or you know, all of that stuff. That's not
the issue anymore. We've moved beyond that, and some people
(09:08):
are fighting the wrong battle. You bring up some very
very good points, Duck.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Well, it just seems to me that we have become
kind of lazy, fat, dumb, lazy, stupid whatever it.
Speaker 6 (09:19):
Is, stupid, We're stupid. We're stupid again. We're stupid.
Speaker 7 (09:24):
We meaning collectively, our institutions, the government, the media, the
education system. We in that regard, have become relatively stupid stupid.
You know our song Idiots, Idiots Idiocy is the is
the biggest threat to democracy that we could possibly have. Now,
that's not to say everybody is stupid. That's not to
(09:47):
say that most most people are not stupid, but most
people are clueless as to turn their own concern over
what's going on into some type of act that has consequences.
It's very hard for the average person to do anything
about it other than to complain or at least organize
(10:12):
on a grassroots level as best they can some type
of resistance, but they don't know what they're resisting. Again,
people think this isn't a personal attack on Trump, who's
trying to make the world a better place.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Right Well, he is trying to make a world a
better place, and pretty much obviously for him and his
family has as well. So listen and Chuck going up
for the president. It would seem all right, this is
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Speaker 8 (12:47):
Talk tries to be crazy crazy crazy.
Speaker 5 (12:51):
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Speaker 1 (13:00):
This is the Talk Radio Countdown Show. I'm Dug Steffan
along with my colleague and friend Michael Harrison, the editor
and publisher of Talker's magazine. We're here discussing the issues
as usual, and so coming out of the break with
the song Idiots, it kind of lays back the foundation
for the conversation. As you said a few minutes ago,
(13:23):
many of us are becoming idiots. And that's why that
song that you created with the Gunhill Road has gotten
so much traction.
Speaker 6 (13:31):
Right.
Speaker 7 (13:33):
Oh yeah, it's got more traction now two years after
we released it than it had back when we first
put it out. And I mean it even has at
the end the Chinese people laughing at us, and you know,
potential nuclear war, all kinds of things happening as a
result of a significant segment of the population being idiots. Again,
(13:56):
I think most Americans are not idiots, but I think
too many are, and they've created a gang of idiots
that kind of holds this whole hostage and the figurative playground.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Well, so yes, let's there's a I say yes because
I'm agreeing with the statement and the ingredients to the
statement that you just made. I just am wondering whether
the people who are listening to some of the stuff
that we see on television, news talk television and news
talk radio are those the idiots because it's the same
(14:30):
stuff sort of repeated over and over and over again
on both sides, unless there are people are watching some
of the other sources, are reading other sources. The New
York Times is biased, and there are you know, if
you look at the newspapers and the big cities on
the East coast, the West coast, they're all biased. In
the newspapers in the middle of the country are biased,
(14:52):
and so does that lead to big biases in news
talk radio? And if that's the case. Do we have
a problem and is that one of the reasons I'm
wondering about women listening. Looking at the demographics of some
of this past week, of some of the ratings and
stations that are continuing both on television radio to beat
(15:14):
this drum, they don't have many women listeners.
Speaker 7 (15:16):
Michael, Yeah, well, they definitely are targeting an audience. I
wouldn't say they're idiots. What I would say is they're
not answering to their highest angels. The media is actually
not beating the drum enough in terms of educating the
public about what citizenship is and how a constitutional republic
(15:40):
is supposed to operate. When you mentioned their bias, you're
still talking, like I said before, the old game of
whether for Trump or you're for Biden, whether you're for Harris,
whether or not you're a lefty or you're a righty,
And none of this is what I'm talking about. I'm
talking about, regardless of who you're for, what's happening to
the structure of our country at this latest chapter, and
(16:05):
we're not talking about it. But I don't think the
media is our idiots. I think the media is misguided
and has lost sight of its ultimate responsibility. Everybody is
too into making a buck. Everybody is too into appealing
to a target audience keeping the base happy, as opposed
(16:26):
to going out there and collectively dealing.
Speaker 6 (16:29):
In issues that we all.
Speaker 7 (16:31):
Share in the consequences of That's what's wrong right now.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Consequences be damned. I think that's one of the things
that if you think about it. We're not here to lecture,
we're not here to prosthetize, We're not here to prophesize.
But there are things the observation that Michael and I
make are very clear to the two of us. Michael
has different points than I do sometimes, but the bottom
(16:57):
line is that we have I was a school teacher
and I know what went on in the classroom and
it isn't going on now. So perhaps more to talk
about with regard to that as we continue here on
this week's talk radio countdown show.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
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Speaker 1 (17:15):
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Counting Down What America is talking about. Welcome to the
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Speaker 4 (18:27):
All across America. Talk radio and the Voices of Freedom.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
Don't stop talk.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
So hopefully we're giving you things to think about as
we delineate the big stories of the week on news
talk radio. That's what this show is all about and
our views. If you were pointing out some of the
things that are important, at least to us, and we
think we represent they're thinking of a lot of people,
maybe not everybody all the time, but the list represents
what really is going on in news talk radio, news
(18:56):
talk television. So when we get to some of the
things like number three this week, Michael, the citizenship case,
and some of the things that have been brought to
bear here in Massachusetts this week, there's a lot of
humming and hawing and the Boston Globe on the radio,
both the NPR and the commercial stations about a scientist
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from Harvard University who's about to be deported because she
has been charged with smuggling. The people at Harvard say
that if you're pardon the pun, trumped up case, it's
just another example of the people in Washington who are
in power trying to break down with what Harvard stands for,
and they're not going to take it.
Speaker 6 (19:40):
I don't know what they're going to.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Do, but that's one of the many examples as fist
fights in the street people. There's another incident here locally
where ice agents came to pick somebody up in a
neighborhood and the neighbors all came out and started a
fistfight with ice the neighbors on the street both side.
I mean, the street was plucked. There are hundreds of
(20:02):
people in the street fighting, literally fighting with the ice
ages telling them to get out and leave this woman
that they were trying to pick up alone. Get out.
It's a fiasco, and it is Americans against Americans. It's
really in this case, I think this woman has a
green card. I don't know if she's a if she's
(20:23):
a citizen, but at any rate, you know what I'm saying, Well.
Speaker 7 (20:27):
The issue is about due process. The issue is not
about whether these people are criminals. You see, this is
where what I was saying before is becoming murky. The
argument always switches to, well, you know she'sn't involved in
a legal activity, Well, he's a member of a gang.
Speaker 6 (20:44):
No, the issue is about due process. It's not about.
Speaker 7 (20:47):
Whether or not the mob finds him or her guilty.
It's about whether or not we use mobs to find
people guilty to begin with.
Speaker 6 (20:57):
And this is where the.
Speaker 7 (21:00):
Truth has been obscured by emotion and politics. And that's
why we're idiots, because we're fighting a battle that really
is not the issue anymore. The issue is due process,
not whether or not somebody is guilty.
Speaker 6 (21:15):
Okay, oh, oh they're guilty.
Speaker 7 (21:16):
Then we should definitely send them to a concentration camp
in another country, lift them off the street, and have
them disappear.
Speaker 6 (21:22):
That's okay. If they're guilty, Well, how do we know
they're guilty.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
There's no trial, just somebody says they're guilty.
Speaker 6 (21:30):
That'll pick them up and get them out.
Speaker 7 (21:32):
Yeah, right, And that's the way the argument is being
waged in terms of talk media, in terms of the news,
it always shifts to whether or not they're guilty, as
opposed to whether or not the process of deporting people
without due process, putting them in jail without due process,
kicking them up, and making them disappear without due process,
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whether that's the American way. And yeah, they may be guilty,
they may be horrible people, but even guilty and horrible
people deserve due process because that's more important than whether
a specific criminal is deported or not.
Speaker 8 (22:07):
But some people don't think they deserve due process.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
They think pick them up and get rid of them,
send them back to where they came from.
Speaker 7 (22:16):
And that's when send you back to where you came
from could happen just as easily. If you could do
it to one, you can do it to all.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
I came from my mother's womb. I don't know where
it was before that.
Speaker 7 (22:29):
But that's a very very interesting inside tug.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Thank you. The Alien Enemies Act and the Birthright Citizenship
Kate kind of tied together number three and number four,
the issue about due process. Okay, let's go back to
for a moment, if we may, a couple of things
that you can tie the Chinese trade war, which is
number five, to the Middle East trip which was number one,
And I'll tell you how you can combine the tour.
(22:55):
You can kind of look at them together. Certainly, we're
trying to do business with other countries, get them to
do business with us instead of with China. China is
all over the place trying to take advantage of our
situation at the moment, and that's to be expected, frankly.
So the biggest announcement, because the biggest business, whether you
know it or not. We mentioned this before. I talk
(23:17):
about it all the time. The Boeing Corporation is the
largest in terms of dollars exporter of any American products.
They export billions, tens hundreds of billions of dollars worth
of planes out of our country, and the biggest customer
offshore has been until Donald Trump took office, the Chinese Empire,
(23:42):
as you call it, whatever you want to call it,
Chinese government. The Chinese have been huge, huge users of Boeing,
and so about ten years ago the Chinese said, oh,
buying all these planes from America, let's build our own planes.
So they went into business. They bought an Airbus, which
is the main competitor tore Boeing. They bought a Boeing
(24:03):
seven thirty seven and the Airbus three twenty one, and
they took them.
Speaker 8 (24:07):
Apart, piece by piece, by peace, and.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
They laid them out on the floor of a big
warehouse in I think it was in Shanghai, I'm not
sure exactly where it was. And so they took the stuff,
which is what the Chinese are famous for. They took
the American product and the European product, and they duplicated it.
They didn't come up with new engineering, they didn't come
up with anything new. They just built a plane based
(24:31):
on a combined model of the Boeing seven thirty seven
and the Airbus three twenty one. So the Chinese government
now has a plane which they are trying to sell
to countries that are annoyed with us, and they want
to hurt Boeing and they want to hurt our business.
So this is the way to We'll show you, guys,
(24:51):
we're going to sell them our planes cheaper than you
sell your planes. However, anybody with half a brain who
steps into one of those planes and thinks that it's
it's going to be the same as riding in an
airbus or in a It's okay with the stuff that's
made on the ground, it stays on the ground, is fine.
But you want to be at thirty five thousand feet
in a plane that basically was a knockoff of an
(25:12):
airbus and a Boeing seven thirty seven, I don't think so.
So to go to kind of without explaining it the
government without explaining they made this deal with the Middle
Eastern countries, the Qatar mostly, but several others as well,
to sell four hundred billion dollars worth of planes. That's
(25:34):
part of the deal. That's the biggest part of the deal.
Four hundred billion dollars worth of Boeing planes will go
to the countries in the Middle East who participated in
Trump's visit. Now is that going to really? Is that
what the number is going to end up being? Who knows.
But it was a huge statement and the huge shot
in the arm for Boeing, great dave in the stock
market for Boeing. So you got to see what's going on.
(25:56):
So what does Trump get out of it? Well, he's
got a lot of other does he He's getting this
four hundred million dollars plane. I don't think that has
any with Boeing, has to do with the government.
Speaker 6 (26:05):
Could if anybody should give him a gift, that should be.
Speaker 7 (26:08):
Boeing Boweing should give him a brand new plane as
opposed to a thirteen year old a thirteen year old
bucket of bolts, which is what this plane is. This
plan will never be up to speed unless Trump gets me.
They have to take it a buy re elected for
four or five more times.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Yeah right, yeah, I mean it has to be taken
apart and built to be used. It's it's going to
be You're right. It's about four hundred million dollars. The
gift is worth four hundred million. It has cost him
four hundred million bucks at least to outfit it to
be used as air force wanting.
Speaker 7 (26:38):
To come from the American It's going to come from
the American tax player.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Of course, so we're paying for if you go ahead.
Speaker 7 (26:47):
If you follow the timeline, the real benefit of this
will be former President Trump after he's president, to have
himself a really cool seven forty seven with Trump on
it around the nation at.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
The seven fifty seven he has, Now you'll trade in
for something else. That'll become a freighter. And so they
go by to that plane.
Speaker 6 (27:07):
It'll become tesla.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Yeah, that's a long way from the first plane that
he ever had was a little seven thirty seven, I
mean a seven to twenty seven two hundred. That was
the first plane he had had Trump all over it. Anyway,
it's interesting to see how the pieces are put together. It's,
you know, do you want to know how sausage is
made or you just enjoy eating it? That's that's really
(27:31):
This is a sausage machine, all of this stuff. So anyway,
that's just another anecdotal piece of the pot.
Speaker 6 (27:39):
We're learning a lot.
Speaker 7 (27:40):
We're learning a lot of we're learning a lot about
the hyperbole. I mean five years ago, six years ago,
when we entered this new era in terms of our
view of China. If you remember, all we're talking about
on programs such as this, which is reflective of talk radio,
is how evil China is and how dangerous China is,
and how China is our enemy, our mortal enemy, until
(28:00):
we have what one week of a trade war with them,
and like neither side can live without the other.
Speaker 6 (28:06):
W WA in a second, what happened? What happened to
the to the mortal enemy? What happened?
Speaker 7 (28:11):
What happened to this one sided, you know, hegemony battle
with China. We can't even make it through a week
with a trade war without them, without both sides in
one way or another folding. I think obviously, based on
what you said before, which is contains a lot of
you know, excellent observations, maybe this whole thing about China
(28:32):
and the US is not being presented properly to the
public of either nation.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Yep, I think that vari is dude. I Meanwhile, I
was speaking of two nations number six this week on
the story list, Russia and Ukraine get together for peace talks.
So who thinks that's going to work or in whose favor? Well,
the deals with Trump has made it clear that he
doesn't like what the Russians proposal is, and so where
(29:00):
do you go from there? Is that going to be
an important part of all of this or not. Whether
Trump thinks it's a good idea, it isn't probably going
to drive.
Speaker 7 (29:10):
No matter what happens, Trump will claimed victory, right of course.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Well it started anyway, as we speak this weekend in
Russia and Ukraine are beginning their conversation and away we go. Meanwhile,
the Secret Service is investigating mister Komy. And I just
saw that the other day, and I thought, the mystic
is not on the list. I don't spend much time
on it, but is there anybody who's not a subjectently
(29:35):
you and me? I suppose we're okay. Komy? He was
a boob when he was around, but we haven't thought
about him for years, and now all of a sudden,
he's the burgeyman again. He just I mean, it's just
another example.
Speaker 7 (29:50):
I guess of you and I are okay as long
as we don't become important.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Yes, right, exactly, all right. So the economy, Yeah, the
economy and its connection in to the tariffs Number five,
the fact that the middle class is shrinking. How long
we've been told that This is, you know, one of
the things that a lot of the mainstream media newspaper
(30:15):
or news like The Times and the Boston Globe and stuff.
I see this article about the middle class shrinking today
in the Boston Globe, and I think to myself, how
long we've been beating that drum? How long is it
really or is that just another way of coming up
with a story to scare everybody? Like the story the
story this week floating around the country is we're going
(30:35):
to be hit. We're going to be sorry that we
ever walk this earth because there are such powerful tornadoes coming.
It's the worst tornado season in more than a decade. Well,
how do you know that we haven't been through the
season yet. So that's what they're predicting, though, more hurricanes,
more tornadoes. Look out anyway, Sorry, I got carried away
(30:58):
a little bit there. Should we read that book about
Biden that Jake Tapper wrote? Is that something that we
want to do?
Speaker 6 (31:06):
I think that's an interesting book.
Speaker 7 (31:08):
I think that it goes back to what I said
before that the left and the right, from a partisan discussion,
have both been extremely guilty of undermining the integrity of
this nation. It wasn't that Biden was good and Trump
was bad, or vice versa. They're both bad. And the
(31:28):
only way we could unify in this country is to
come to the realization that both sides have screwed us
really badly, and it's time now to try to find
a common purpose and a unified public and fix the
nation's integrity and its structure, and stop with us these
merchants of division that are tearing us apart so they
can screw us from the left and the right.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Yep, and so on the heels of that, the Menendez
brothers get a reprieve of sorts. We'll talk about that
in the moment with Stephen jj Wiseman here on this
week's talk radio Countdown show.
Speaker 5 (32:03):
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Speaker 3 (32:15):
We're counting down what America is talking about. The talk
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And so it dies for the presidence of Stephen jj Wiseman.
Excellent author.
Speaker 8 (32:29):
He is a teacher, he's a broadcaster, he's a lawyer.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Notice I put them all in order of priority, even
though the lawyer number ten. This week with regard to legalities,
the Menendez brothers case brought back fond memories of the
OJ case, didn't it, Steve.
Speaker 9 (32:50):
Yeah, there was an era of these kinds of celebrity
trials that we've we've seen, you know, we're seeing it
now with Diddy trial. But yeah, those really were the
first trials that it took national attention to these kinds
of crimes.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
I think that Menendez brothers should start in a new movie,
both of them playing vampires instead of the Scars Guard
brothers playing vampires. Let's put and they have probably a
future as you know, they can be b movie stars
as much as anything else.
Speaker 9 (33:24):
You know, people will be fascinating. I do think that
they probably are going to get parole now that their
sentence has been reduced so that they're eligible, and it
will be fascinating to see the world of media is
a lot different now than when they went into prison,
and so I'd be shocked if they didn't play off
(33:45):
of their notoriety and what kinds of things.
Speaker 6 (33:48):
You know.
Speaker 9 (33:49):
I don't know if you're joking it or not.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Regarding No, I think it's a real possibility, you know,
it truly could be. Yeah, yeah, right, Vampires of Menendez. Okay,
number eight this week, the air traffic control problems. There
are a lot of legal issues here. Meanwhile, I want
to get on a plane and feel safe. And I
(34:12):
went to California last Sunday for the day. And when
I got on the plane, I said to the pilot,
because it was a clear morning, how we said.
Speaker 8 (34:21):
He says, well, the sky's clear, We're okay.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
So who else heard that beside me? But a couple
of flight attendants were standing next to me, and they
kind of rolled their eyeballs, and I thought, okay, let's
have a nice peaceful ride. So I probably got back
into my seat and put it back and went to
sleep and that was it.
Speaker 9 (34:40):
Well that's be good. But you know, there's been so
much of a discussion about what's happening in Newark, but
the studies have shown that Newark is just one of
fifty hubs that are majorly understaffed and the equipment is
nowhere near what we have what we see in Europe.
(35:01):
I mean, this is a problem that's long standing and
isn't going to change overnight. So yeah, I mean we're
all kind of nervous these days when we fly, and
quite frankly, so you know, you get the Trump administration
come in there, and what do they do? What's the way.
What's the way of solving understaffed you know, flight controllers,
you fire a bunch, so they're just making it worse.
(35:25):
Hopefully Secretary of Transportation will step up, but nothing's going
to happen fast to fix this.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
How about all of the legal issues that have come
up and the rule of law and are a republic
and the fact that people, in my estimation don't really
understand like the Alien Enemies Act and what's really happening
with these deportation I'm in favor of getting rid of
everybody who doesn't belong here, crooks, criminals, But who who tells?
(35:53):
You know, who decides who doesn't belong here? If you
don't like Trump, does that mean you don't belong here?
Is there a lot of people who don't like Trump
who are getting tossed? Is there something else with their
CV that makes them eligibly get tossed?
Speaker 6 (36:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (36:07):
And we do have I mean, he has absolute contempt
for the Constitution and said, you know, well, I don't
know if I have to follow the Constitution or support
the Constitution. It was in the oath you took you
and I agree, you know, there is no right for
undocumented aliens who are criminals to be here, and the
(36:30):
idea of deporting them is absolutely fine. But the idea
of the scare tactic that there is a huge number
of these people and that this is largely what is
coming in, it's just plainly false. So with a declining
birth rate, we need the labor there, so we have
due process, we have the courts.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
These are what.
Speaker 9 (36:51):
Should be done for an orderly process to deal with immigration.
And you're right, the media has not done a good
job explaining how he is improperly using that law to
deport people.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
But make no mistake about it, the people that don't
belong here should get deported. It is a strange cat.
Speaker 8 (37:08):
Finds in Okay.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
Stephen JJ Wiseman here with Doug Stephen on this week's
Talk Radio Countdown Show.
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Speaker 4 (01:14):
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Speaker 1 (01:23):
All right, let's get down of business here on the
Don't Talk Radio Countdown Show. I'm Doug Stephan with Michael Harrison,
a editor and publisher of Talkers magazine. Here to go
through the charts for this past week, the week of
Made the twelfth through the sixteenth. If you are new
to the program, that charts are published at talkers dot
com and they are the work a sort of an
(01:43):
aggregate of information put together by the staff at Talkers
after having talked to and listened to a lot of
talk radio stations in the country. We come up with
a top ten story list and the list of people
that are kind of for the most part, associated with
those stories. So in order to get that going, get
the ball bouncing, get us talking, not that we ever
(02:06):
have a real problem getting ourselves into a talk mode.
Michael's here to get to the specific So okay, Michael,
take it away, please.
Speaker 6 (02:14):
It's good to be with you.
Speaker 7 (02:15):
And it was another exciting week of conversation on radio
stations just like the one that we're being broadcast to
our listeners on at this very moment. At number ten
we have the Menendez brother's case. At number nine we
have the Ditty Trials.
Speaker 6 (02:29):
We have some real court TV on radio for everybody.
Speaker 7 (02:36):
At number eight we have the air traffic control problems
at number seven, the Taper and Thompson book about Biden
at number six, the Russia quint Peace talks at number five,
the tariffs and the US China trade war at number four,
the Alien Enemies Act, tied with deportations, and in the
Wisconsin the Wisconsin Judge case at number three, the birth
(03:00):
right citizenship case and universal injunctions, and number two the
Big Beautiful Bill and Medicaid cuts. And number one we
have a Big Beautiful Bill, and number one we have
the Trump Middle East trip and on the people survey.
At number ten we have Eric and Lyle Mendez. And
number nine we have Sean Ditty Combs tied with Cassie Ventura.
(03:24):
And number eight we have Sean Duffy. One of the
odds of there being a Sean Diddy and a Sean
Duffy next to each other on the charge the typo.
Speaker 6 (03:31):
But yeah, it just turned out that way. That's the
way the numbers crunched.
Speaker 7 (03:36):
It was like, what and then at number seven we
have Joe Biden and David Plouff. Vladimir Zelenski and Vladimir
Putin are at number six, Xi Jiangping at five, Hannah
Dugan at four, and number three Clarence Thomas Begg, Kevanaugh
and Amy Conek Barrett. They're tied at number three, Number two,
(03:57):
Mike Johnson, number one, Donald Trump.
Speaker 6 (04:01):
A lot of interesting characters.
Speaker 7 (04:02):
Floating around in the fraction points of information between these names.
This was a This was a tough week for us
to come up with a top ten shot of people,
because each one of those stories has a whole variety
of personalities attached to them.
Speaker 6 (04:17):
So this is the best we can do it.
Speaker 7 (04:19):
It's an interesting snapshot of a lot of activity on
the nation's airwaves.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Personality, charm and personality, love and warm personality. That may
be said for some of them and maybe not for others.
So let's dig right into the number one story this week,
Michael the president's trip to the Middle East and the
hoopla about the four hundred million dollar plane, which I
think is complete nonsense, and it was, but it was
(04:46):
already made thing for the other side to start throwing
rotten apples at the Republicans who are at the president anyway,
as far as the takeaways other things that are put
together at this point, hard to get a re because
it's hard to get the real story out of most
of the news media. So how much business was really done?
(05:08):
How much did we really get out of the President's
tour to the Middle East? Certainly there was lots of opulence,
and we all know that Trump loves that sort of stuff.
Speaker 7 (05:19):
I think that what it does is it it created
It created benefits.
Speaker 6 (05:23):
For for Trump.
Speaker 7 (05:24):
Of course, very hard to tell the It's very hard
to tell the difference between what was good for America
and what was good for Trump and his family.
Speaker 6 (05:32):
That's what I think is the key, the key to
the issue.
Speaker 7 (05:35):
And when you take it out of the partisan rome
and you look at it objectively.
Speaker 6 (05:40):
There's a lot.
Speaker 7 (05:40):
There's a lot to uh to wonder about when it
comes to who was the beneficiary of this trip, the
American people or the American president.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Well, who's to say they can't both benefit? The line
is so blurry now thanks to Trump and all of
his activities, since he not only from the first turn,
but now he's really gotten into activity that crosses the
line in this administration. So where and is anybody going
to stand up to him? There are a few people,
(06:11):
a couple of judges and stuff that in the long
shot that may have some input. You know that the
courts say one person can't make a judgment to do
all of this stuff, to stop the things that Trump
has started, the legal battles, I think, and I'll ask
Steven JJ Wiseman about this later on in the countdown,
(06:33):
is kind of wimpy you want to stand up to
this guy or not? Or are people just throwing up
their hands? Are people giving in and giving up too easily?
There's lots of talk, but where's the action to take
this president not down, but to put him in his place,
if that's what needs to have a lot of people think, hey,
(06:54):
this is great, but they don't understand the constitution. They
don't understand the rule of law. Most of the people
that are that are on the Trump bag, the maga,
the whole the bus, if you will, the marching band
for Trump.
Speaker 6 (07:12):
All these people they don't care about the bandwagon.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Yeah, the band I don't care about.
Speaker 6 (07:17):
Wonder well.
Speaker 7 (07:18):
People are afraid of the consequences of the presidency. People
are afraid of being audited. People are afraid of being targeted,
people are afraid of being humiliated.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
But why should they be? Why? Why is that? Why
is Trump getting away with all of that stuff.
Speaker 7 (07:36):
That's what happens when you when you go against Trump,
you get targeted, you get that, you get humiliated, you
become it's very difficult to battle the United States government
when when they come to the force, aren't the.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
People of the United States government? Aren't we supposed to
be We're the ones who elected supposedly or put people
into positions of power. Or is that long gone too,
because as we aren't really aware of the constitution, it
isn't being taught in schools anymore. This almost seems like
a deliberate delibery on the part of some a deliberate
attempt to destroy the country. You could make that.
Speaker 7 (08:13):
Argument, well, a lot of people are making that argument,
but it's a theoretical argument. In the day to day
practice of power, people are frightened, and this is how.
Speaker 6 (08:24):
Dictatorships get started.
Speaker 7 (08:26):
You see, if a lot of people are still lost
back in the dust of ancient history. Ancient history being
the left versus the right, the liberals versus the conservatives,
the Democrats versus the Republicans, partisanship bias, all that stuff.
We're not talking about that anymore. We're talking about the constitution.
We're talking about the bones of the nation, the structure,
(08:47):
the skeleton, the architecture of how a constitutional republic is designed. Well,
that's the issue now here at this moment. Some people
are still going, oh, the pros is out to good
Trump or you know, all of that stuff. That's not
the issue anymore. We've moved beyond that, and some people
(09:08):
are fighting the wrong battle. You bring up some very
very good points, Duck.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Well, it just seems to me that we have become
kind of lazy, fat, dumb, lazy, stupid whatever it.
Speaker 6 (09:19):
Is, stupid, We're stupid. We're stupid again. We're stupid.
Speaker 7 (09:24):
We meaning collectively, our institutions, the government, the media, the
education system. We in that regard, have become relatively stupid stupid.
You know our song Idiots, Idiots Idiocy is the is
the biggest threat to democracy that we could possibly have. Now,
that's not to say everybody is stupid. That's not to
(09:47):
say that most most people are not stupid, but most
people are clueless as to turn their own concern over
what's going on into some type of act that has consequences.
It's very hard for the average person to do anything
about it other than to complain or at least organize
(10:12):
on a grassroots level as best they can some type
of resistance, but they don't know what they're resisting. Again,
people think this isn't a personal attack on Trump, who's
trying to make the world a better place.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Right Well, he is trying to make a world a
better place, and pretty much obviously for him and his
family has as well. So listen and Chuck going up
for the president. It would seem all right, this is
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Speaker 1 (13:00):
This is the Talk Radio Countdown Show. I'm Dug Steffan
along with my colleague and friend Michael Harrison, the editor
and publisher of Talker's magazine. We're here discussing the issues
as usual, and so coming out of the break with
the song Idiots, it kind of lays back the foundation
for the conversation. As you said a few minutes ago,
(13:23):
many of us are becoming idiots. And that's why that
song that you created with the Gunhill Road has gotten
so much traction.
Speaker 6 (13:31):
Right.
Speaker 7 (13:33):
Oh yeah, it's got more traction now two years after
we released it than it had back when we first
put it out. And I mean it even has at
the end the Chinese people laughing at us, and you know,
potential nuclear war, all kinds of things happening as a
result of a significant segment of the population being idiots. Again,
(13:56):
I think most Americans are not idiots, but I think
too many are, and they've created a gang of idiots
that kind of holds this whole hostage and the figurative playground.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Well, so yes, let's there's a I say yes because
I'm agreeing with the statement and the ingredients to the
statement that you just made. I just am wondering whether
the people who are listening to some of the stuff
that we see on television, news talk television and news
talk radio are those the idiots because it's the same
(14:30):
stuff sort of repeated over and over and over again
on both sides, unless there are people are watching some
of the other sources, are reading other sources. The New
York Times is biased, and there are you know, if
you look at the newspapers and the big cities on
the East coast, the West coast, they're all biased. In
the newspapers in the middle of the country are biased,
(14:52):
and so does that lead to big biases in news
talk radio? And if that's the case. Do we have
a problem and is that one of the reasons I'm
wondering about women listening. Looking at the demographics of some
of this past week, of some of the ratings and
stations that are continuing both on television radio to beat
(15:14):
this drum, they don't have many women listeners.
Speaker 7 (15:16):
Michael, Yeah, well, they definitely are targeting an audience. I
wouldn't say they're idiots. What I would say is they're
not answering to their highest angels. The media is actually
not beating the drum enough in terms of educating the
public about what citizenship is and how a constitutional republic
(15:40):
is supposed to operate. When you mentioned their bias, you're
still talking, like I said before, the old game of
whether for Trump or you're for Biden, whether you're for Harris,
whether or not you're a lefty or you're a righty,
And none of this is what I'm talking about. I'm
talking about, regardless of who you're for, what's happening to
the structure of our country at this latest chapter, and
(16:05):
we're not talking about it. But I don't think the
media is our idiots. I think the media is misguided
and has lost sight of its ultimate responsibility. Everybody is
too into making a buck. Everybody is too into appealing
to a target audience keeping the base happy, as opposed
(16:26):
to going out there and collectively dealing.
Speaker 6 (16:29):
In issues that we all.
Speaker 7 (16:31):
Share in the consequences of That's what's wrong right now.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Consequences be damned. I think that's one of the things
that if you think about it. We're not here to lecture,
we're not here to prosthetize, We're not here to prophesize.
But there are things the observation that Michael and I
make are very clear to the two of us. Michael
has different points than I do sometimes, but the bottom
(16:57):
line is that we have I was a school teacher
and I know what went on in the classroom and
it isn't going on now. So perhaps more to talk
about with regard to that as we continue here on
this week's talk radio countdown show.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
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Speaker 5 (18:32):
Don't stop talk.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
So hopefully we're giving you things to think about as
we delineate the big stories of the week on news
talk radio. That's what this show is all about and
our views. If you were pointing out some of the
things that are important, at least to us, and we
think we represent they're thinking of a lot of people,
maybe not everybody all the time, but the list represents
what really is going on in news talk radio, news
(18:56):
talk television. So when we get to some of the
things like number three this week, Michael, the citizenship case,
and some of the things that have been brought to
bear here in Massachusetts this week, there's a lot of
humming and hawing and the Boston Globe on the radio,
both the NPR and the commercial stations about a scientist
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from Harvard University who's about to be deported because she
has been charged with smuggling. The people at Harvard say
that if you're pardon the pun, trumped up case, it's
just another example of the people in Washington who are
in power trying to break down with what Harvard stands for,
and they're not going to take it.
Speaker 6 (19:40):
I don't know what they're going to.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Do, but that's one of the many examples as fist
fights in the street people. There's another incident here locally
where ice agents came to pick somebody up in a
neighborhood and the neighbors all came out and started a
fistfight with ice the neighbors on the street both side.
I mean, the street was plucked. There are hundreds of
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people in the street fighting, literally fighting with the ice
ages telling them to get out and leave this woman
that they were trying to pick up alone. Get out.
It's a fiasco, and it is Americans against Americans. It's
really in this case, I think this woman has a
green card. I don't know if she's a if she's
(20:23):
a citizen, but at any rate, you know what I'm saying, Well.
Speaker 7 (20:27):
The issue is about due process. The issue is not
about whether these people are criminals. You see, this is
where what I was saying before is becoming murky. The
argument always switches to, well, you know she'sn't involved in
a legal activity, Well, he's a member of a gang.
Speaker 6 (20:44):
No, the issue is about due process. It's not about.
Speaker 7 (20:47):
Whether or not the mob finds him or her guilty.
It's about whether or not we use mobs to find
people guilty to begin with.
Speaker 6 (20:57):
And this is where the.
Speaker 7 (21:00):
Truth has been obscured by emotion and politics. And that's
why we're idiots, because we're fighting a battle that really
is not the issue anymore. The issue is due process,
not whether or not somebody is guilty.
Speaker 6 (21:15):
Okay, oh, oh they're guilty.
Speaker 7 (21:16):
Then we should definitely send them to a concentration camp
in another country, lift them off the street, and have
them disappear.
Speaker 6 (21:22):
That's okay. If they're guilty, Well, how do we know
they're guilty.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
There's no trial, just somebody says they're guilty.
Speaker 6 (21:30):
That'll pick them up and get them out.
Speaker 7 (21:32):
Yeah, right, And that's the way the argument is being
waged in terms of talk media, in terms of the news,
it always shifts to whether or not they're guilty, as
opposed to whether or not the process of deporting people
without due process, putting them in jail without due process,
kicking them up, and making them disappear without due process,
(21:54):
whether that's the American way. And yeah, they may be guilty,
they may be horrible people, but even guilty and horrible
people deserve due process because that's more important than whether
a specific criminal is deported or not.
Speaker 8 (22:07):
But some people don't think they deserve due process.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
They think pick them up and get rid of them,
send them back to where they came from.
Speaker 7 (22:16):
And that's when send you back to where you came
from could happen just as easily. If you could do
it to one, you can do it to all.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
I came from my mother's womb. I don't know where
it was before that.
Speaker 7 (22:29):
But that's a very very interesting inside tug.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Thank you. The Alien Enemies Act and the Birthright Citizenship
Kate kind of tied together number three and number four,
the issue about due process. Okay, let's go back to
for a moment, if we may, a couple of things
that you can tie the Chinese trade war, which is
number five, to the Middle East trip which was number one,
And I'll tell you how you can combine the tour.
(22:55):
You can kind of look at them together. Certainly, we're
trying to do business with other countries, get them to
do business with us instead of with China. China is
all over the place trying to take advantage of our
situation at the moment, and that's to be expected, frankly.
So the biggest announcement, because the biggest business, whether you
know it or not. We mentioned this before. I talk
(23:17):
about it all the time. The Boeing Corporation is the
largest in terms of dollars exporter of any American products.
They export billions, tens hundreds of billions of dollars worth
of planes out of our country, and the biggest customer
offshore has been until Donald Trump took office, the Chinese Empire,
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as you call it, whatever you want to call it,
Chinese government. The Chinese have been huge, huge users of Boeing,
and so about ten years ago the Chinese said, oh,
buying all these planes from America, let's build our own planes.
So they went into business. They bought an Airbus, which
is the main competitor tore Boeing. They bought a Boeing
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seven thirty seven and the Airbus three twenty one, and
they took them.
Speaker 8 (24:07):
Apart, piece by piece, by peace, and.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
They laid them out on the floor of a big
warehouse in I think it was in Shanghai, I'm not
sure exactly where it was. And so they took the stuff,
which is what the Chinese are famous for. They took
the American product and the European product, and they duplicated it.
They didn't come up with new engineering, they didn't come
up with anything new. They just built a plane based
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on a combined model of the Boeing seven thirty seven
and the Airbus three twenty one. So the Chinese government
now has a plane which they are trying to sell
to countries that are annoyed with us, and they want
to hurt Boeing and they want to hurt our business.
So this is the way to We'll show you, guys,
(24:51):
we're going to sell them our planes cheaper than you
sell your planes. However, anybody with half a brain who
steps into one of those planes and thinks that it's
it's going to be the same as riding in an
airbus or in a It's okay with the stuff that's
made on the ground, it stays on the ground, is fine.
But you want to be at thirty five thousand feet
in a plane that basically was a knockoff of an
(25:12):
airbus and a Boeing seven thirty seven, I don't think so.
So to go to kind of without explaining it the
government without explaining they made this deal with the Middle
Eastern countries, the Qatar mostly, but several others as well,
to sell four hundred billion dollars worth of planes. That's
(25:34):
part of the deal. That's the biggest part of the deal.
Four hundred billion dollars worth of Boeing planes will go
to the countries in the Middle East who participated in
Trump's visit. Now is that going to really? Is that
what the number is going to end up being? Who knows.
But it was a huge statement and the huge shot
in the arm for Boeing, great dave in the stock
market for Boeing. So you got to see what's going on.
(25:56):
So what does Trump get out of it? Well, he's
got a lot of other does he He's getting this
four hundred million dollars plane. I don't think that has
any with Boeing, has to do with the government.
Speaker 6 (26:05):
Could if anybody should give him a gift, that should be.
Speaker 7 (26:08):
Boeing Boweing should give him a brand new plane as
opposed to a thirteen year old a thirteen year old
bucket of bolts, which is what this plane is. This
plan will never be up to speed unless Trump gets me.
They have to take it a buy re elected for
four or five more times.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Yeah right, yeah, I mean it has to be taken
apart and built to be used. It's it's going to
be You're right. It's about four hundred million dollars. The
gift is worth four hundred million. It has cost him
four hundred million bucks at least to outfit it to
be used as air force wanting.
Speaker 7 (26:38):
To come from the American It's going to come from
the American tax player.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Of course, so we're paying for if you go ahead.
Speaker 7 (26:47):
If you follow the timeline, the real benefit of this
will be former President Trump after he's president, to have
himself a really cool seven forty seven with Trump on
it around the nation at.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
The seven fifty seven he has, Now you'll trade in
for something else. That'll become a freighter. And so they
go by to that plane.
Speaker 6 (27:07):
It'll become tesla.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Yeah, that's a long way from the first plane that
he ever had was a little seven thirty seven, I
mean a seven to twenty seven two hundred. That was
the first plane he had had Trump all over it. Anyway,
it's interesting to see how the pieces are put together. It's,
you know, do you want to know how sausage is
made or you just enjoy eating it? That's that's really
(27:31):
This is a sausage machine, all of this stuff. So anyway,
that's just another anecdotal piece of the pot.
Speaker 6 (27:39):
We're learning a lot.
Speaker 7 (27:40):
We're learning a lot of we're learning a lot about
the hyperbole. I mean five years ago, six years ago,
when we entered this new era in terms of our
view of China. If you remember, all we're talking about
on programs such as this, which is reflective of talk radio,
is how evil China is and how dangerous China is,
and how China is our enemy, our mortal enemy, until
(28:00):
we have what one week of a trade war with them,
and like neither side can live without the other.
Speaker 6 (28:06):
W WA in a second, what happened? What happened to
the to the mortal enemy? What happened?
Speaker 7 (28:11):
What happened to this one sided, you know, hegemony battle
with China. We can't even make it through a week
with a trade war without them, without both sides in
one way or another folding. I think obviously, based on
what you said before, which is contains a lot of
you know, excellent observations, maybe this whole thing about China
(28:32):
and the US is not being presented properly to the
public of either nation.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Yep, I think that vari is dude. I Meanwhile, I
was speaking of two nations number six this week on
the story list, Russia and Ukraine get together for peace talks.
So who thinks that's going to work or in whose favor? Well,
the deals with Trump has made it clear that he
doesn't like what the Russians proposal is, and so where
(29:00):
do you go from there? Is that going to be
an important part of all of this or not. Whether
Trump thinks it's a good idea, it isn't probably going
to drive.
Speaker 7 (29:10):
No matter what happens, Trump will claimed victory, right of course.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Well it started anyway, as we speak this weekend in
Russia and Ukraine are beginning their conversation and away we go. Meanwhile,
the Secret Service is investigating mister Komy. And I just
saw that the other day, and I thought, the mystic
is not on the list. I don't spend much time
on it, but is there anybody who's not a subjectently
(29:35):
you and me? I suppose we're okay. Komy? He was
a boob when he was around, but we haven't thought
about him for years, and now all of a sudden,
he's the burgeyman again. He just I mean, it's just
another example.
Speaker 7 (29:50):
I guess of you and I are okay as long
as we don't become important.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Yes, right, exactly, all right. So the economy, Yeah, the
economy and its connection in to the tariffs Number five,
the fact that the middle class is shrinking. How long
we've been told that This is, you know, one of
the things that a lot of the mainstream media newspaper
(30:15):
or news like The Times and the Boston Globe and stuff.
I see this article about the middle class shrinking today
in the Boston Globe, and I think to myself, how
long we've been beating that drum? How long is it
really or is that just another way of coming up
with a story to scare everybody? Like the story the
story this week floating around the country is we're going
(30:35):
to be hit. We're going to be sorry that we
ever walk this earth because there are such powerful tornadoes coming.
It's the worst tornado season in more than a decade. Well,
how do you know that we haven't been through the
season yet. So that's what they're predicting, though, more hurricanes,
more tornadoes. Look out anyway, Sorry, I got carried away
(30:58):
a little bit there. Should we read that book about
Biden that Jake Tapper wrote? Is that something that we
want to do?
Speaker 6 (31:06):
I think that's an interesting book.
Speaker 7 (31:08):
I think that it goes back to what I said
before that the left and the right, from a partisan discussion,
have both been extremely guilty of undermining the integrity of
this nation. It wasn't that Biden was good and Trump
was bad, or vice versa. They're both bad. And the
(31:28):
only way we could unify in this country is to
come to the realization that both sides have screwed us
really badly, and it's time now to try to find
a common purpose and a unified public and fix the
nation's integrity and its structure, and stop with us these
merchants of division that are tearing us apart so they
can screw us from the left and the right.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Yep, and so on the heels of that, the Menendez
brothers get a reprieve of sorts. We'll talk about that
in the moment with Stephen jj Wiseman here on this
week's talk radio Countdown show.
Speaker 5 (32:03):
The top Radio Countdown.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
We're counting down what America is talking about. The talk
radio Countdown show continues.
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Talk Radio Countdown.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
And so it dies for the presidence of Stephen jj Wiseman.
Excellent author.
Speaker 8 (32:29):
He is a teacher, he's a broadcaster, he's a lawyer.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Notice I put them all in order of priority, even
though the lawyer number ten. This week with regard to legalities,
the Menendez brothers case brought back fond memories of the
OJ case, didn't it, Steve.
Speaker 9 (32:50):
Yeah, there was an era of these kinds of celebrity
trials that we've we've seen, you know, we're seeing it
now with Diddy trial. But yeah, those really were the
first trials that it took national attention to these kinds
of crimes.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
I think that Menendez brothers should start in a new movie,
both of them playing vampires instead of the Scars Guard
brothers playing vampires. Let's put and they have probably a
future as you know, they can be b movie stars
as much as anything else.
Speaker 9 (33:24):
You know, people will be fascinating. I do think that
they probably are going to get parole now that their
sentence has been reduced so that they're eligible, and it
will be fascinating to see the world of media is
a lot different now than when they went into prison,
and so I'd be shocked if they didn't play off
(33:45):
of their notoriety and what kinds of things.
Speaker 6 (33:48):
You know.
Speaker 9 (33:49):
I don't know if you're joking it or not.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Regarding No, I think it's a real possibility, you know,
it truly could be. Yeah, yeah, right, Vampires of Menendez. Okay,
number eight this week, the air traffic control problems. There
are a lot of legal issues here. Meanwhile, I want
to get on a plane and feel safe. And I
(34:12):
went to California last Sunday for the day. And when
I got on the plane, I said to the pilot,
because it was a clear morning, how we said.
Speaker 8 (34:21):
He says, well, the sky's clear, We're okay.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
So who else heard that beside me? But a couple
of flight attendants were standing next to me, and they
kind of rolled their eyeballs, and I thought, okay, let's
have a nice peaceful ride. So I probably got back
into my seat and put it back and went to
sleep and that was it.
Speaker 9 (34:40):
Well that's be good. But you know, there's been so
much of a discussion about what's happening in Newark, but
the studies have shown that Newark is just one of
fifty hubs that are majorly understaffed and the equipment is
nowhere near what we have what we see in Europe.
(35:01):
I mean, this is a problem that's long standing and
isn't going to change overnight. So yeah, I mean we're
all kind of nervous these days when we fly, and
quite frankly, so you know, you get the Trump administration
come in there, and what do they do? What's the way.
What's the way of solving understaffed you know, flight controllers,
you fire a bunch, so they're just making it worse.
(35:25):
Hopefully Secretary of Transportation will step up, but nothing's going
to happen fast to fix this.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
How about all of the legal issues that have come
up and the rule of law and are a republic
and the fact that people, in my estimation don't really
understand like the Alien Enemies Act and what's really happening
with these deportation I'm in favor of getting rid of
everybody who doesn't belong here, crooks, criminals, But who who tells?
(35:53):
You know, who decides who doesn't belong here? If you
don't like Trump, does that mean you don't belong here?
Is there a lot of people who don't like Trump
who are getting tossed? Is there something else with their
CV that makes them eligibly get tossed?
Speaker 6 (36:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (36:07):
And we do have I mean, he has absolute contempt
for the Constitution and said, you know, well, I don't
know if I have to follow the Constitution or support
the Constitution. It was in the oath you took you
and I agree, you know, there is no right for
undocumented aliens who are criminals to be here, and the
(36:30):
idea of deporting them is absolutely fine. But the idea
of the scare tactic that there is a huge number
of these people and that this is largely what is
coming in, it's just plainly false. So with a declining
birth rate, we need the labor there, so we have
due process, we have the courts.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
These are what.
Speaker 9 (36:51):
Should be done for an orderly process to deal with immigration.
And you're right, the media has not done a good
job explaining how he is improperly using that law to
deport people.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
But make no mistake about it, the people that don't
belong here should get deported. It is a strange cat.
Speaker 8 (37:08):
Finds in Okay.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
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