May 23, 2025 • 34 mins
5/24/25 - #1 This Week, The Big, Beautiful Bill / Medicaid-SNAP Cuts
Host Doug Stephan along with Michael Harrison, Editor/Publisher of Talkers Magazine, review the most talked about stories and people on news/talk radio for the week of May 19th, 2025 through May 23rd, 2025. Compiled by the research department at Talkers Magazine - The Bible of Talk Radio and the New Talk Media - www.talkers.com
STORIES
Host Doug Stephan along with Michael Harrison, Editor/Publisher of Talkers Magazine, review the most talked about stories and people on news/talk radio for the week of May 19th, 2025 through May 23rd, 2025. Compiled by the research department at Talkers Magazine - The Bible of Talk Radio and the New Talk Media - www.talkers.com
STORIES
- Big, Beautiful Bill / Medicaid-SNAP Cuts
- The Economy / U.S. Bond Rating
- Biden Health Coverup
- Deadly Jewish Museum Attack
- Golden Dome Defense System
- Trump-Ramaphosa Meeting
- Immigration / SCOTUS Venezuelan Gang Ruling
- Tariffs / U.S.-China Trade War
- Pentagon Accepts Qatar Jet
- Andrew Cuomo Investigation / Jim Irsay Dies
- Donald Trump
- Mike Johnson
- Scott Bessent
- Joe Biden-Jake Tapper
- Cyril Ramaphosa
- Xi Jinping
- Vladimir Putin
- Elon Musk
- Andrew Cuomo
- Jim Irsay
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Speaker 4 (01:06):
Counting Down what America is talking about? Welcome to the
Talk radio Countdown show.
Speaker 5 (01:13):
All across America talk radio at the voices of freedom.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Don't stop talking, don't stop sharing, don't stop laughing, don't stop.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Caring, laughing, caring. This is a little of that that
should be The good.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Radio programs are the I think Michael Harrison and I
talked about this a number of times, what entertainment really means?
What does it mean to entertain Some people that are
entertaining are not funny. As a matter of fact, they're
some Some people who are entertaining are not funny at all,
and so maybe we dig around that as we look
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at the people is part of our engagement. Here the
charts from Talkers Magazine for the week of May nineteenth
to the twenty third will be our discussion focus. Michael
Harrison is the editor and publisher of Talkers Magazine.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Sometimes I put that word together a tour. You are
the editor.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
You're not the editor, but you're the editor editor of
Talker's And you can find these lists, by the way,
every week.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
At talkers dot com.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
So we have the stories, the top ten stories that
have been discussed over the week, news, tark radio and
other podcasts and TV and all that good stuff. They
tend to all kind of run in together. So Michael,
shall we go through the list first, and then we'll
charge into the issues of the day.
Speaker 6 (02:39):
We'll dive into the pool of purpose. Here at number
ten we have Andrew Cuomo investigation. That's an interesting story, indeed,
and Jim Hearsay dies, a businessman known in the world
of football. At number nine. The Pentagon accepts the Cutter Jets.
At number eight, we have the charab in the US
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China trade war. At number seven, we have immigration tied
with the Scotis Venezuelan gang ruling. At number six, we
have the Trump rama Fosa meeting. At number five, we
have the Golden Dome defense system at number four, the
deadly Jewish Museum attack at number three, the Biden health
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cover up. At number two, the economy and US bond rating,
and at number one the Big Beautiful Bill tied with
the Medicaid snap cuts. On our people survey, we have
the aforementioned Jim Ersay at number ten, number nine, Andrew Cuomo,
Elon musk Is at number eight. Do you remember him
when he used to be famous? Vladimir Putin at number seven,
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Zijenping at six, Cyril rama Fosa at number five, the
latest victim of the Oval Office ambush Joe Biden and
Jake Tapper at number four, Scott Bessant at number three,
Mike Johnson at number two, and the little spoken about
low profile President Donald Trump at number one.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
There you go, huh, So, everybody has their body ready,
your ears are open, your mind is open to different
points of view. Hopefully that's what helps you to understand
what's going on from our perspective here on the talk
radio Countdown show, So Andrew Cuomo, who is the target
of an investigation. Interesting, I've become a fan of his son,
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Chris Cuomo, who's on News Nation pretty much every night.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
If I can get.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Back to the house by eight o'clock, I'll watch Cuomo.
If I can't see him, then I'll listen and watch
him at eleven o'clock because they repeat the show. He
has become one of the most focused He kind of
in a way, it's Bill Maher and Cuomo that I
find myself paying the most attention to. As far as
folks who are on radio television, they're mostly on television,
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although they do podcasts as well, which I guess is
part of our consideration here. When you think, Michael about
the issues the stories. It's not just news talk radio.
It's the news talkers who are doing radio, and they're
doing podcasts, and many of them are doing television on
various networks and stuff. You see a lot of people
on News Nation that have been on the radio. You
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see people at news Max who have been or still
are on the radio. And so this is a compilation
of things. And so I got my point of view
when I was thinking about Andrew Cuomo this week and
how relentless some of these people are to go get them.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
You know, they get let's let's go get them.
Speaker 6 (05:40):
Well, it's the weaponization of the Justice Department again, the
thing that they Trump administration and the Trump campaign was
complaining about. Well, they complain about it because they recognize it,
because they use it.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Yeah, use.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Remember when Nixon was president, he used the I R
S as a tool for his enemies. There are a
lot of similarities actually between the playbook that Trump is
using and the playbook that Nixon used before we get caught.
And one wonders if that will be the fate after
the elections, the midterm elections next year, which I think
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probably won't go the way you know, it's too early
to tell, really, but there are a lot of folks
who think it won't go the way that will be
helpful for Donald Trump and his message. And who knows
what kind of Shenanigan's will be wasting our time, you know,
like impeach him. Let's go impeach him, you know that
kind of stuff. But well, the impeaching might not be
a waste of time. The impeach him might be a
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way to distract him from his agenda for the last
two years of his term because he'll be stuck with that. Plus,
the impeach him could bring to the bring to light
a lot of the things that Trump has done. In
other words, it's a campaign platform for the next presidential
cycle and congressional cycle that will in variably followed this
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next election.
Speaker 6 (07:02):
So it's not necessarily ridiculous. It has a certain political
strategy to it. If the Democrats are able to regain
control of the House, and this big, beautiful bill might
be just the thing to push the pendulum in the
other direction. Why do you say that, because there are
a lot of people in this country that don't like Trump.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
The agenda, the big what's there?
Speaker 1 (07:26):
What specifically about the Big Beautiful Bill, which is number
one this week on the show.
Speaker 6 (07:31):
The nature basically the nature of how the budget cuts
affect the average working, working Joe in this country. Basically
basically whether the tax cuts and the benefits of the
bill are skewed toward the wealthy, billionaires, the oligarchy, the
top one percent, all of that, or whether it truly
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is a package that is helpful to the working person
upon whose shoulders Trump built his his his successful presidential bid.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
The answer to that premise is no. And you dig
around and you can see what's what and who's who.
He'll talk a good game, and he'll sound since here
and tell everybody that they were going to be better off,
as like, pretty much since the tariff thing has started
to talk about how it's going to be beautiful in
this country and everybody's going to be better off and
you'll be you know, like swimming in dough. That has
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doesn't look like the real focus of this.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Although there are tax cuts for the middle class, there
are tax cuts for everybody. The question has come up
among the people that I pay attention to as I.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Was mentioning like Chris Cuomo and.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Mar Bill Maher whether the taxes that actually are cut.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
And what the budget will be are going to be.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Made up not by the all the things like the terrorists,
but by more money being borrowed, the premise that we
were better off after Trump left office. In many ways
we were, and in many ways we weren't. And one
of the things we weren't. He's following the footsteps of
George W. Bush, borrowing money like it was, you know,
(09:17):
like drinking a glass of water.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Budget.
Speaker 6 (09:21):
The budget cuts haven't reduced the potential for the deficit growing,
they've increased it. In other words, Trump is spending more
money than than Biden did.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
So, Yeah, but God is coming.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Yeah, but how come it's It doesn't show we've got
all this money coming in supposedly, that's what they say.
Speaker 6 (09:42):
You know, we don't.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
We don't.
Speaker 6 (09:44):
We don't. That's like people saying the earth is flat.
Why are people cutting.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
All these jobs?
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Michael, we're cutting all these positions where we're reducing waste,
fried corruption, and abuse.
Speaker 6 (09:54):
Yeah, where where were all the factories coming back to America?
Where are all the where where's all this money that's coming?
This is nonsense, it's nonsense. Tariffs don't work, that way.
Tariffs don't bring money to the country from other countries.
Tariffs are attacks on the companies and the consumers in America.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Why do people understand?
Speaker 4 (10:13):
What?
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Why don't people understand that basic fact because they don't
get it. It's cool, it's it's.
Speaker 6 (10:21):
The newspapers, every every reporter should be screaming that it's
a blatant it's a blatant untruth.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
They're too busy, as Trump suggested, trying to get him,
and instead of going after facts, they go after a
new window and suggestion.
Speaker 6 (10:37):
I don't mean this would be a partisan statement against Trump.
It's just that it's such a blatant it's such a
blatant lie. We were taking in thousands of dollars from home.
You cannot get them to We're taking in thousands of
dollars from ourselves.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 6 (10:55):
The money doesn't is the pney on tariffs is not
paid for by the shipping countries.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
The other day when the president, these two stories are
kind of woven together, the visit of the the President
of South Africa to the White House and him getting
sort of caught was I watched that whole thing.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
I don't know if you did not Michael. I watched
all of that whole.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Business of Trump and the president whose name I probably
am not going to be able to visit Rampaposa something
close to that.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Anyway, something like that. I'm totally sure.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Number six on the countdown anyway. So one of the
reporters from NBC asked the question about the jet, and
Trump looked at him and said, you're awful.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
And then he went on to not only to be.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Rate the reporter, but NBC News and how ABC and
CBS and NBC all suck and it's terrible, and how
you guys there should be ashamed of yourself you make.
We have this big story about what's going on in
South Africa killing white farmers, and all you want to
do was talk about that yet And so it's kind
of a strange thing. How long is it going to
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take them to retrofit that jets? And I think I
love planes. I understand the differences. Plane is a lot
newer the Air Force one planes. Although they are older,
they have been maintained like you would. I mean, it's
the President's plane. So they've changed the interior of the
planes all the time. They rehab the skins, replaced the
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engines are replaced. They're like new planes. So you can
say they're thirty some odd years old, and I don't
want to ride in a thirty year old plane.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
You'd love to ride in that plane.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
And by the way, most planes are built, especially the
Boeing planes, the last thirty five forty forty five years.
And so the whole business about what people don't know again,
this is one of those things, Michael, where people don't
know what they're talking about most of the time.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Is this.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
This is a seven forty seven eight hundred which was
manufactured about ten years ago, and it's a great plane.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
It has all the bells and whistles. But they're gonna
have to rip it apart.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Take the interior out of the plane, and redo it
so that it has all the technology that the Air
Force one plane has to have, and that's going to
cost about a billion dollars and it's going to take
a year anyway for them. They can't just Okay, fly
it over here and next thing you know, you're going
to see it painted and they'll be parked at Palm
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Beach International Airport. No, no, no, it doesn't work like that.
So no, I you know, anyway, that's part I mean,
But you are right.
Speaker 6 (13:34):
This is another one of those stories where the facts
are obscured by political rhetoric. The truth is to take
more than a year. The truth may take more than
a billion dollars, and the truth may never.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Could use his air Force one by the time he's
out of office, and may take him that long.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
And then they'll give the plane to him.
Speaker 6 (13:53):
Right, So I'll give it to him his museum, you know,
his his.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Museum he's going to he will take that seven fifty
seven and use it for something else.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
And he'll make that seven forty seven. After all, I.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Was president of the United States. I need to have
the same kind of plane that I had when I
was president. So this is my plane. Don't listen if
you don't think he's thought about that or that's part
of the deal here, everybody, you're kidding yourself, because that
becomes his plane after he's out of office.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
That's pure and simple.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Anybody who doesn't think that is silly and not dealing
with reality. But you know who's going to fix the
plane up, you and me, the taxpayer is going.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
To Well that's the point. Trump's not stupid by any.
Speaker 6 (14:36):
Certain can you imagine if Abraham Lincoln had done this,
it would be all over the news.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Yes, imagine him getting a brand new stage coach for
his travel from the White House over to Ford's theater.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Age coach one.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Yeah, twenty eight past the hour.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
Welcome to the talk radio Countdown Show.
Speaker 5 (15:14):
All across America Talk radio and the Voices of freedom.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
We're at It's the Talk Radio Countdown Show.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Doug Stephan here with Michael Harrison, the editor and publisher
of Talkers magazine, with some information about the charts, some
of the stories, the focus of the so call news media,
which Trump is out of percent correct on when he
talks about ABC and Seymore not so much NBC, but
CBS number one, ABC number two and NBC maybe a
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week number three. Of the major networks that are always
taking shots at Trump, sam is.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
The New York Times, in the Boston Globe and all
the other newspapers that feign fair reporting. They don't.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
You not going to find it, as I've said many times,
and I don't mind plugging them.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Because I think it's it's a refreshing watch.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
When I look at News Nation, which you can get
on all your cable systems, I see stuff and identify
with stuff and think, wow, this is really great. Everybody
should see this and think about the things that are
being presented in a balanced way.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
I use Cuomo as an example.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
He has lots of praise for Trump, and he's not
afraid to take apart the things that don't make sense
that he's talking about that are nonsense or just not true.
And he has people in the discussion from both sides
and they present their points of view and it's good
food for thought, man, it really is.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
It's great food for thought.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
So anyway, we were just I'm still chuckling about stagecoach one. However,
and by the way, if you're just joining us and
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week's countdown. Okay, So number five is the Golden Dome
Defense System, interesting as that is what is being used
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in Israel to protect that small country from the rockets
and whatever else gets thrown at them bomb wise, because
they have this defense system that pretty much catches all
the stuff that's coming their way.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
And it was very expensive. I think it was forty
billion dollars or some such thing.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
So can you imagine, Not that it's a bad idea,
I think it's probably a good idea.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
But how much it will cost.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
You know, he doesn't Trump doesn't talk about They just
talk with the fact that we should set up a
defense system like this to protect ourselves.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
You know, if we get figure out how to get along.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
With other people, we wouldn't need this, and neither would
anybody else. But we don't seem to be able to
do that, so we spend all this money for defense.
And one of the things that's come up this week, Michael,
with regard to this discussion is how the budgets are
being cut in every department except one, and that's the
Defense department. And the fact that they're looking at waste, fraud,
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corruption and abuse in every department except one, which is
the Department of Defense. And they have of all the people,
excuse me, in Trump's cabinet, the worst member, the lightest
on his feet, if you will, is this guy Hexith
who doesn't seem to even know what day it is
much of the time. So we're gonna put him in
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charge of developing a golden dome defense system. So you
think this is just talk or do you think actually
they think we ought to do it.
Speaker 6 (18:51):
I don't know if they believe everything they say we
should do, because I don't know what their.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Ulterior motives are.
Speaker 6 (18:56):
But I do know that there are people out there
who actually believe that they're building a home out of
gold over the right.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Yes, I have a big.
Speaker 6 (19:09):
Back to the original promise of ignorance being the default
for most of these conversations. As for whether they believe
it or not, I don't know, But I do know
the military industrial complex that was foretold by President General
Eisenhower Eisenhower has come to pass, and that military spending
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is a great vehicle by which special interests can be served.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
You know what would make a great podcast. This is
an idea, if I have time to do it, to
go back to the era of Eisenhower and take apart
all of the things he was the first president that
you and I remember. I take apart all the things
that he said that the warnings for example, the one
that you just gave us, and so many more, and
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then fast forward to today. How many of those things
have either come true? How many of those things are
we still doing? How many things are we still wrapped
up in that he warned us about. I think that
would be well Eisenhower.
Speaker 6 (20:10):
Eisenhower was an individual who, at the height of his
popularity after World War Two, was sought by both the
Democrats and the Republicans to be president. The Democrats would
have nominated him as well, which goes back to your point.
You know about reporters and guys like Cuomo and all
that about you know, fair and balanced he was. He
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was fair and balanced. I would looking back now, because
I understand it. You say he was the first president
we knew. I actually remember Harry Truman. I'm dating myself,
but I'm putting it in perspective, and I think that
you probably do too. Eisenhower was elected in fifty two,
so Truman was president, and Truman was a tell it
(20:52):
like it is guy and colorful as hell, but he's
a good president.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Right.
Speaker 6 (20:58):
But if you look back at Eisenhower and then you
look at all the presidents that have come from him,
and the whole left right discussion. Eisenhower was a true conservative,
and a true conservative based on that era could also
be a democrat. The country was more unified, it was
a matter of subtle degree and in the center on
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an issue by issue basis. That was the way American
politics was designed to exist, you know, not a house
divided so seriously. And I don't remember now that I
as I've grown into being a man and understanding the
academics of all this as opposed to just what your
father said in the house. You know, most of us
grow up, you know, mimicking our parents' politics until we
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think for ourselves or don't. I find that the only
real presidential individual in my entire lifetime was Eisenhower. And
he was probably no saint, but it worked out to
be where he was a respectable individual and the president.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Yeah, a lot of people who are who think that
their conservatives or they it depends on how they value it.
But Eisenhower had an affair with his driver during in
World War Two.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
His wife forgave him.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
It was part of whatever, you know, kind of was expected,
and it didn't have the same root result as that
sort of thing has today. It just okay, so Eisenhower
was gone and that was.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
That was kind of it.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
And you know, as far as Harry Truman was a
good president. You can argue about Roosevelt. I think there
are many things about him that were really very good
for the time, and then Eisenhower and then Kennedy, and
then after that presidents have mostly sucked. You know, you
can say what you want to about about Kennedy's vice
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president and when LBJ took over and all the stuff
that was done, there was some good, positive, you know,
productive programs that were putting into place, but he just never.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Came across as somebody. I still think he had something
to do with Kennedy. And this is me.
Speaker 6 (23:12):
A lot of people said, yeah, a lot of people
doubt his credibility as a person, and the war didn't
work out well for him. Kennedy did a lot of
the operational things, but his personal life and and and
some of the things behind the scenes were very very shady.
Gerald Ford was a very decent individual, but yes, but
a great president elect. He wasn't elected, and he got caught.
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He got caught in the picture there, you know, with
the p and you know, you know who ironically historically
was a conservative president to balance the budget and Bill Clinton.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Bill Clinton was a good president. I think, yeah, he was. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
All right, Well pause for a moment here. Let's move
into the zone, the weight zone. Let's find out how
you're doing losing weight to look your best. If you're
in the Midwest and you're for the East, you haven't
really given too much thought even though it's Memorial Day
weekend to going out in your bathing suit. Has been
here where Michael and I are, The temperature has been
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in the forties this week, and hello, it's the end
of May. We've had more rain than we'd had we've
had for years here, and those of us who are
farmers in addition to being other things, are finding it
almost impossible.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
We're way behind, a month behind.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
So people are going to be affected what they have
available for vegetables, local.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Produce, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
But the point I'm making here is focus on how
you look normally.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
On Memorial Day.
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We go to the beach, we go to our house
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we go into the lakes regions of the Midwest, and
so we are probably not going to do too much
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Back with Michael Harrison here on the talk radio Countdown show,
what do you think in terms of podcasting? I mentioned
that earlier. I thought I'd go back to it a
little bit. If you don't mind the whole idea of you,
Joe Rogan now being the most important person in America.
Some people think, do you listen to podcasts?
Speaker 2 (26:40):
I do? Do you which one? Do you mind me
asking who you listen to?
Speaker 6 (26:44):
I listen to a lot of them. I listened to
a lot of them. I listened to a lot of
the lefties because you don't hear them on news talk radio,
and it gives a balance. It gives a balance, and
it gives me some fodder when I have to defend
talk media as being all conservative that it's not that.
There's a tremendous number of left and liberal and democratic
sympathetic and centrist podcasts out there, especially on YouTube, so
(27:10):
I do it to be able to stay in touch
with what people are thinking. I am skeptical of all
all of the conversation we cover because I find that
it's really a lot of cherry picking that I played
to the audience's political ideology as opposed to playing to
some type of balance and truth. But no, I listen
(27:33):
to the podcasts of the people we cover in radio,
and I find that the video podcast world is just
oozing with interesting commentary, which makes it its way to radio.
I'm still radio centric, quite aware that there's more to
this medium than just radio.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
I often say go to talkers dot com to get
the list, but you can find out what's going on
in the world of news talk radio and radio in
general by going to talkers dot com. You have a
very interesting article about the am FM rules the connected
car issues. One of the companies says that the people
that are on AMF from radio the most trusted voices,
(28:14):
most reliable coverage, and that sort of thing. It's a
good overall article, Michael, I think about what's.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Going on in our industry frankly, and so.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
You can see there's a study that is highlighted there
that you can read at talkers dot com. But you
know there are all these people who tell you I
don't need AM radio in the cars anymore.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
You know what a load.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Of happy horsecrap that is this stuff.
Speaker 6 (28:39):
This big business, you know, pushing its own agenda.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Yep, for sure, all right, Michael Harrison and Doug Stephen
at forty eight after this is the countdown.
Speaker 7 (28:50):
Countdown.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
We're counting down what America is talking about. The talk
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tuning into our talk radio Countdown Show, which now focuses
on legal ease, if you will with Stephen JJ Wiseman,
(29:31):
Professor of law at Bentley University, practitioner of.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Law all over the Boston area.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
What's the furthest you've gone for a case where when
you look at the history of you being a lawyer,
how far out have you reached to help somebody?
Speaker 7 (29:47):
Well, you have to be a member of a state bar.
I mean, I'm also member of the Federal bar and
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cases there. So I'm only admitted in Massachusett, so pretty
much the entire state. But that's about it.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Good to know, all right, the Andrew Cuomo investigation, would
you please give some clarity to that. I'm not sure
that I've been talking about how much I enjoy watching
Chris Cuomo on News Nation.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
These days because I think he's about it.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
He's the real epitome of a fair and balanced So
what his his father is? Andrew was the mayor. Wasn't
he the governor of College? Well he had I was
thinking about running for mayor, but he was the governor.
So what's the who's investigating him for what?
Speaker 7 (30:34):
This, again is part of the Trump administration kind of
the game book, is to do investigations of anyone who
is a political enemy. I mean, so Cuomo is certainly
in the in the crosshairs on that, and I think
they're going back to when he was governor dealing with COVID.
(30:58):
Perhaps even more interesting is Letitia James, who is the
New York Attorney General, has been after the President's posterior
for quite a while and now he has ordered his
Justice Department, which he has weaponized. Before he used to say, oh,
it was bad that the Justice Department was weaponized during
the Biden administration, but going after her saying that she
(31:23):
had some illegal real estate deals. So this is you know,
there's nothing new here, and it really is. The Justice
Department was supposed to be non political, and he has
very much turned this into an arm of going after
his opponents. So I'm not sure the specifics with Cuomo,
(31:46):
but you know, it's like you can find what something
on anybody and make it sound like it's something.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Right, Yeah, you can, all right, So there.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
And by the way, I talk about Chris Cuomo his
son on News Nation and they had brother.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
That's why too is brother. Yeah, what's miss Mario was
his father.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
And Trump was on a town hall that they had
on News Nation that was led by Chris Cuomo, and
he talked about how Trump said to Chris, I was
a big fan of your father's He and I did
a lot of things together.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
He was a great governor.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
He didn't say anything about his brother Andrew, however, which
that was interesting.
Speaker 7 (32:27):
I was a fan of Mario Cuomo. I think you
and I both met him at one of the.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
Car we did, you know, interestingly enough, I did when
early on in my career was on w MCA in
New York, the father Mario Cuomo, I did a weekly
spot with me talking about what was going on, and
he was very, very, very I don't want to say pedantic,
that's not the right word, but deliberate in his speech.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Yeah, articulate and deliberate, Yes, right, that was the way. Yeah,
I think that was the way to describe him.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
Okay, So anyway, let's let's move into the legalities of
the Scotis Venezuelan gang ruling.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Were you surprised at that?
Speaker 7 (33:07):
No? You know, here again, the courts have been, you know,
pretty you know, on the one hand, pretty supportive of
the attacks on the president's use of like the Espionage
Act and others. But in this one, yeah, this ruling
that did was one of the few that did allow
(33:28):
him to take stronger action against certain gang members. As
much as I'm surprised, it is within it is within
the rules. It's the issue comes when he's violating due process,
which he has through so many of the edicts he's making.
But in that case, I think it's more of an
isolated matter. Much of his immigration policy has been so
(33:52):
far kicked down by the courts, who are having difficulty
enforcing it and will have even more difficulty if this
present budget bill has piece that the media hasn't picked
up on enough. Taking away the rights of federal courts
to make contempt orders against the president I think is
just absolutely outrageous.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
They're pretty clever, these people who know they aren't all
as dull as Pete Hegseith, however you pronounce, I think
BONDI is actually pretty smart.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Okay, that's it.
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Counting Down what America is talking about? Welcome to the
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All across America talk radio at the voices of freedom.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Don't stop talking, don't stop sharing, don't stop laughing, don't stop.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Caring, laughing, caring. This is a little of that that
should be The good.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Radio programs are the I think Michael Harrison and I
talked about this a number of times, what entertainment really means?
What does it mean to entertain Some people that are
entertaining are not funny. As a matter of fact, they're
some Some people who are entertaining are not funny at all,
and so maybe we dig around that as we look
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at the people is part of our engagement. Here the
charts from Talkers Magazine for the week of May nineteenth
to the twenty third will be our discussion focus. Michael
Harrison is the editor and publisher of Talkers Magazine.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Sometimes I put that word together a tour. You are
the editor.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
You're not the editor, but you're the editor editor of
Talker's And you can find these lists, by the way,
every week.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
At talkers dot com.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
So we have the stories, the top ten stories that
have been discussed over the week, news, tark radio and
other podcasts and TV and all that good stuff. They
tend to all kind of run in together. So Michael,
shall we go through the list first, and then we'll
charge into the issues of the day.
Speaker 6 (02:39):
We'll dive into the pool of purpose. Here at number
ten we have Andrew Cuomo investigation. That's an interesting story, indeed,
and Jim Hearsay dies, a businessman known in the world
of football. At number nine. The Pentagon accepts the Cutter Jets.
At number eight, we have the charab in the US
(03:00):
China trade war. At number seven, we have immigration tied
with the Scotis Venezuelan gang ruling. At number six, we
have the Trump rama Fosa meeting. At number five, we
have the Golden Dome defense system at number four, the
deadly Jewish Museum attack at number three, the Biden health
(03:21):
cover up. At number two, the economy and US bond rating,
and at number one the Big Beautiful Bill tied with
the Medicaid snap cuts. On our people survey, we have
the aforementioned Jim Ersay at number ten, number nine, Andrew Cuomo,
Elon musk Is at number eight. Do you remember him
when he used to be famous? Vladimir Putin at number seven,
(03:44):
Zijenping at six, Cyril rama Fosa at number five, the
latest victim of the Oval Office ambush Joe Biden and
Jake Tapper at number four, Scott Bessant at number three,
Mike Johnson at number two, and the little spoken about
low profile President Donald Trump at number one.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
There you go, huh, So, everybody has their body ready,
your ears are open, your mind is open to different
points of view. Hopefully that's what helps you to understand
what's going on from our perspective here on the talk
radio Countdown show, So Andrew Cuomo, who is the target
of an investigation. Interesting, I've become a fan of his son,
(04:31):
Chris Cuomo, who's on News Nation pretty much every night.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
If I can get.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Back to the house by eight o'clock, I'll watch Cuomo.
If I can't see him, then I'll listen and watch
him at eleven o'clock because they repeat the show. He
has become one of the most focused He kind of
in a way, it's Bill Maher and Cuomo that I
find myself paying the most attention to. As far as
folks who are on radio television, they're mostly on television,
(04:57):
although they do podcasts as well, which I guess is
part of our consideration here. When you think, Michael about
the issues the stories. It's not just news talk radio.
It's the news talkers who are doing radio, and they're
doing podcasts, and many of them are doing television on
various networks and stuff. You see a lot of people
on News Nation that have been on the radio. You
(05:19):
see people at news Max who have been or still
are on the radio. And so this is a compilation
of things. And so I got my point of view
when I was thinking about Andrew Cuomo this week and
how relentless some of these people are to go get them.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
You know, they get let's let's go get them.
Speaker 6 (05:40):
Well, it's the weaponization of the Justice Department again, the
thing that they Trump administration and the Trump campaign was
complaining about. Well, they complain about it because they recognize it,
because they use it.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Yeah, use.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Remember when Nixon was president, he used the I R
S as a tool for his enemies. There are a
lot of similarities actually between the playbook that Trump is
using and the playbook that Nixon used before we get caught.
And one wonders if that will be the fate after
the elections, the midterm elections next year, which I think
(06:15):
probably won't go the way you know, it's too early
to tell, really, but there are a lot of folks
who think it won't go the way that will be
helpful for Donald Trump and his message. And who knows
what kind of Shenanigan's will be wasting our time, you know,
like impeach him. Let's go impeach him, you know that
kind of stuff. But well, the impeaching might not be
a waste of time. The impeach him might be a
(06:38):
way to distract him from his agenda for the last
two years of his term because he'll be stuck with that. Plus,
the impeach him could bring to the bring to light
a lot of the things that Trump has done. In
other words, it's a campaign platform for the next presidential
cycle and congressional cycle that will in variably followed this
(07:01):
next election.
Speaker 6 (07:02):
So it's not necessarily ridiculous. It has a certain political
strategy to it. If the Democrats are able to regain
control of the House, and this big, beautiful bill might
be just the thing to push the pendulum in the
other direction. Why do you say that, because there are
a lot of people in this country that don't like Trump.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
The agenda, the big what's there?
Speaker 1 (07:26):
What specifically about the Big Beautiful Bill, which is number
one this week on the show.
Speaker 6 (07:31):
The nature basically the nature of how the budget cuts
affect the average working, working Joe in this country. Basically
basically whether the tax cuts and the benefits of the
bill are skewed toward the wealthy, billionaires, the oligarchy, the
top one percent, all of that, or whether it truly
(07:52):
is a package that is helpful to the working person
upon whose shoulders Trump built his his his successful presidential bid.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
The answer to that premise is no. And you dig
around and you can see what's what and who's who.
He'll talk a good game, and he'll sound since here
and tell everybody that they were going to be better off,
as like, pretty much since the tariff thing has started
to talk about how it's going to be beautiful in
this country and everybody's going to be better off and
you'll be you know, like swimming in dough. That has
(08:28):
doesn't look like the real focus of this.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Although there are tax cuts for the middle class, there
are tax cuts for everybody. The question has come up
among the people that I pay attention to as I.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Was mentioning like Chris Cuomo and.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Mar Bill Maher whether the taxes that actually are cut.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
And what the budget will be are going to be.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Made up not by the all the things like the terrorists,
but by more money being borrowed, the premise that we
were better off after Trump left office. In many ways
we were, and in many ways we weren't. And one
of the things we weren't. He's following the footsteps of
George W. Bush, borrowing money like it was, you know,
(09:17):
like drinking a glass of water.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Budget.
Speaker 6 (09:21):
The budget cuts haven't reduced the potential for the deficit growing,
they've increased it. In other words, Trump is spending more
money than than Biden did.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
So, Yeah, but God is coming.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Yeah, but how come it's It doesn't show we've got
all this money coming in supposedly, that's what they say.
Speaker 6 (09:42):
You know, we don't.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
We don't.
Speaker 6 (09:44):
We don't. That's like people saying the earth is flat.
Why are people cutting.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
All these jobs?
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Michael, we're cutting all these positions where we're reducing waste,
fried corruption, and abuse.
Speaker 6 (09:54):
Yeah, where where were all the factories coming back to America?
Where are all the where where's all this money that's coming?
This is nonsense, it's nonsense. Tariffs don't work, that way.
Tariffs don't bring money to the country from other countries.
Tariffs are attacks on the companies and the consumers in America.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Why do people understand?
Speaker 4 (10:13):
What?
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Why don't people understand that basic fact because they don't
get it. It's cool, it's it's.
Speaker 6 (10:21):
The newspapers, every every reporter should be screaming that it's
a blatant it's a blatant untruth.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
They're too busy, as Trump suggested, trying to get him,
and instead of going after facts, they go after a
new window and suggestion.
Speaker 6 (10:37):
I don't mean this would be a partisan statement against Trump.
It's just that it's such a blatant it's such a
blatant lie. We were taking in thousands of dollars from home.
You cannot get them to We're taking in thousands of
dollars from ourselves.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 6 (10:55):
The money doesn't is the pney on tariffs is not
paid for by the shipping countries.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
The other day when the president, these two stories are
kind of woven together, the visit of the the President
of South Africa to the White House and him getting
sort of caught was I watched that whole thing.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
I don't know if you did not Michael. I watched
all of that whole.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Business of Trump and the president whose name I probably
am not going to be able to visit Rampaposa something
close to that.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Anyway, something like that. I'm totally sure.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Number six on the countdown anyway. So one of the
reporters from NBC asked the question about the jet, and
Trump looked at him and said, you're awful.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
And then he went on to not only to be.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Rate the reporter, but NBC News and how ABC and
CBS and NBC all suck and it's terrible, and how
you guys there should be ashamed of yourself you make.
We have this big story about what's going on in
South Africa killing white farmers, and all you want to
do was talk about that yet And so it's kind
of a strange thing. How long is it going to
(12:05):
take them to retrofit that jets? And I think I
love planes. I understand the differences. Plane is a lot
newer the Air Force one planes. Although they are older,
they have been maintained like you would. I mean, it's
the President's plane. So they've changed the interior of the
planes all the time. They rehab the skins, replaced the
(12:26):
engines are replaced. They're like new planes. So you can
say they're thirty some odd years old, and I don't
want to ride in a thirty year old plane.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
You'd love to ride in that plane.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
And by the way, most planes are built, especially the
Boeing planes, the last thirty five forty forty five years.
And so the whole business about what people don't know again,
this is one of those things, Michael, where people don't
know what they're talking about most of the time.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Is this.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
This is a seven forty seven eight hundred which was
manufactured about ten years ago, and it's a great plane.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
It has all the bells and whistles. But they're gonna
have to rip it apart.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Take the interior out of the plane, and redo it
so that it has all the technology that the Air
Force one plane has to have, and that's going to
cost about a billion dollars and it's going to take
a year anyway for them. They can't just Okay, fly
it over here and next thing you know, you're going
to see it painted and they'll be parked at Palm
(13:25):
Beach International Airport. No, no, no, it doesn't work like that.
So no, I you know, anyway, that's part I mean,
But you are right.
Speaker 6 (13:34):
This is another one of those stories where the facts
are obscured by political rhetoric. The truth is to take
more than a year. The truth may take more than
a billion dollars, and the truth may never.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Could use his air Force one by the time he's
out of office, and may take him that long.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
And then they'll give the plane to him.
Speaker 6 (13:53):
Right, So I'll give it to him his museum, you know,
his his.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Museum he's going to he will take that seven fifty
seven and use it for something else.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
And he'll make that seven forty seven. After all, I.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Was president of the United States. I need to have
the same kind of plane that I had when I
was president. So this is my plane. Don't listen if
you don't think he's thought about that or that's part
of the deal here, everybody, you're kidding yourself, because that
becomes his plane after he's out of office.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
That's pure and simple.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Anybody who doesn't think that is silly and not dealing
with reality. But you know who's going to fix the
plane up, you and me, the taxpayer is going.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
To Well that's the point. Trump's not stupid by any.
Speaker 6 (14:36):
Certain can you imagine if Abraham Lincoln had done this,
it would be all over the news.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Yes, imagine him getting a brand new stage coach for
his travel from the White House over to Ford's theater.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Age coach one.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Yeah, twenty eight past the hour.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
Welcome to the talk radio Countdown Show.
Speaker 5 (15:14):
All across America Talk radio and the Voices of freedom.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
We're at It's the Talk Radio Countdown Show.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Doug Stephan here with Michael Harrison, the editor and publisher
of Talkers magazine, with some information about the charts, some
of the stories, the focus of the so call news media,
which Trump is out of percent correct on when he
talks about ABC and Seymore not so much NBC, but
CBS number one, ABC number two and NBC maybe a
(15:46):
week number three. Of the major networks that are always
taking shots at Trump, sam is.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
The New York Times, in the Boston Globe and all
the other newspapers that feign fair reporting. They don't.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
You not going to find it, as I've said many times,
and I don't mind plugging them.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Because I think it's it's a refreshing watch.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
When I look at News Nation, which you can get
on all your cable systems, I see stuff and identify
with stuff and think, wow, this is really great. Everybody
should see this and think about the things that are
being presented in a balanced way.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
I use Cuomo as an example.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
He has lots of praise for Trump, and he's not
afraid to take apart the things that don't make sense
that he's talking about that are nonsense or just not true.
And he has people in the discussion from both sides
and they present their points of view and it's good
food for thought, man, it really is.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
It's great food for thought.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
So anyway, we were just I'm still chuckling about stagecoach one. However,
and by the way, if you're just joining us and
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At your other podcast, you can find Countdown that the
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and you'll get the stream anytime you'd like of this
week's countdown. Okay, So number five is the Golden Dome
Defense System, interesting as that is what is being used
(17:25):
in Israel to protect that small country from the rockets
and whatever else gets thrown at them bomb wise, because
they have this defense system that pretty much catches all
the stuff that's coming their way.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
And it was very expensive. I think it was forty
billion dollars or some such thing.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
So can you imagine, Not that it's a bad idea,
I think it's probably a good idea.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
But how much it will cost.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
You know, he doesn't Trump doesn't talk about They just
talk with the fact that we should set up a
defense system like this to protect ourselves.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
You know, if we get figure out how to get along.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
With other people, we wouldn't need this, and neither would
anybody else. But we don't seem to be able to
do that, so we spend all this money for defense.
And one of the things that's come up this week, Michael,
with regard to this discussion is how the budgets are
being cut in every department except one, and that's the
Defense department. And the fact that they're looking at waste, fraud,
(18:22):
corruption and abuse in every department except one, which is
the Department of Defense. And they have of all the people,
excuse me, in Trump's cabinet, the worst member, the lightest
on his feet, if you will, is this guy Hexith
who doesn't seem to even know what day it is
much of the time. So we're gonna put him in
(18:43):
charge of developing a golden dome defense system. So you
think this is just talk or do you think actually
they think we ought to do it.
Speaker 6 (18:51):
I don't know if they believe everything they say we
should do, because I don't know what their.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Ulterior motives are.
Speaker 6 (18:56):
But I do know that there are people out there
who actually believe that they're building a home out of
gold over the right.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Yes, I have a big.
Speaker 6 (19:09):
Back to the original promise of ignorance being the default
for most of these conversations. As for whether they believe
it or not, I don't know, But I do know
the military industrial complex that was foretold by President General
Eisenhower Eisenhower has come to pass, and that military spending
(19:30):
is a great vehicle by which special interests can be served.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
You know what would make a great podcast. This is
an idea, if I have time to do it, to
go back to the era of Eisenhower and take apart
all of the things he was the first president that
you and I remember. I take apart all the things
that he said that the warnings for example, the one
that you just gave us, and so many more, and
(19:56):
then fast forward to today. How many of those things
have either come true? How many of those things are
we still doing? How many things are we still wrapped
up in that he warned us about. I think that
would be well Eisenhower.
Speaker 6 (20:10):
Eisenhower was an individual who, at the height of his
popularity after World War Two, was sought by both the
Democrats and the Republicans to be president. The Democrats would
have nominated him as well, which goes back to your point.
You know about reporters and guys like Cuomo and all
that about you know, fair and balanced he was. He
(20:31):
was fair and balanced. I would looking back now, because
I understand it. You say he was the first president
we knew. I actually remember Harry Truman. I'm dating myself,
but I'm putting it in perspective, and I think that
you probably do too. Eisenhower was elected in fifty two,
so Truman was president, and Truman was a tell it
(20:52):
like it is guy and colorful as hell, but he's
a good president.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Right.
Speaker 6 (20:58):
But if you look back at Eisenhower and then you
look at all the presidents that have come from him,
and the whole left right discussion. Eisenhower was a true conservative,
and a true conservative based on that era could also
be a democrat. The country was more unified, it was
a matter of subtle degree and in the center on
(21:19):
an issue by issue basis. That was the way American
politics was designed to exist, you know, not a house
divided so seriously. And I don't remember now that I
as I've grown into being a man and understanding the
academics of all this as opposed to just what your
father said in the house. You know, most of us
grow up, you know, mimicking our parents' politics until we
(21:42):
think for ourselves or don't. I find that the only
real presidential individual in my entire lifetime was Eisenhower. And
he was probably no saint, but it worked out to
be where he was a respectable individual and the president.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Yeah, a lot of people who are who think that
their conservatives or they it depends on how they value it.
But Eisenhower had an affair with his driver during in
World War Two.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
His wife forgave him.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
It was part of whatever, you know, kind of was expected,
and it didn't have the same root result as that
sort of thing has today. It just okay, so Eisenhower
was gone and that was.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
That was kind of it.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
And you know, as far as Harry Truman was a
good president. You can argue about Roosevelt. I think there
are many things about him that were really very good
for the time, and then Eisenhower and then Kennedy, and
then after that presidents have mostly sucked. You know, you
can say what you want to about about Kennedy's vice
(22:56):
president and when LBJ took over and all the stuff
that was done, there was some good, positive, you know,
productive programs that were putting into place, but he just never.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Came across as somebody. I still think he had something
to do with Kennedy. And this is me.
Speaker 6 (23:12):
A lot of people said, yeah, a lot of people
doubt his credibility as a person, and the war didn't
work out well for him. Kennedy did a lot of
the operational things, but his personal life and and and
some of the things behind the scenes were very very shady.
Gerald Ford was a very decent individual, but yes, but
a great president elect. He wasn't elected, and he got caught.
(23:35):
He got caught in the picture there, you know, with
the p and you know, you know who ironically historically
was a conservative president to balance the budget and Bill Clinton.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Bill Clinton was a good president. I think, yeah, he was. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
All right, Well pause for a moment here. Let's move
into the zone, the weight zone. Let's find out how
you're doing losing weight to look your best. If you're
in the Midwest and you're for the East, you haven't
really given too much thought even though it's Memorial Day
weekend to going out in your bathing suit. Has been
here where Michael and I are, The temperature has been
(24:14):
in the forties this week, and hello, it's the end
of May. We've had more rain than we'd had we've
had for years here, and those of us who are
farmers in addition to being other things, are finding it
almost impossible.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
We're way behind, a month behind.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
So people are going to be affected what they have
available for vegetables, local.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Produce, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
But the point I'm making here is focus on how
you look normally.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
On Memorial Day.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
We go to the beach, we go to our house
in New Hampshire, we go to the shore in New York,
we go into the lakes regions of the Midwest, and
so we are probably not going to do too much
of that this weekend, but that doesn't mean you're not
thinking about your weight.
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And so I have.
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Back with Michael Harrison here on the talk radio Countdown show,
what do you think in terms of podcasting? I mentioned
that earlier. I thought I'd go back to it a
little bit. If you don't mind the whole idea of you,
Joe Rogan now being the most important person in America.
Some people think, do you listen to podcasts?
Speaker 2 (26:40):
I do? Do you which one? Do you mind me
asking who you listen to?
Speaker 6 (26:44):
I listen to a lot of them. I listened to
a lot of them. I listened to a lot of
the lefties because you don't hear them on news talk radio,
and it gives a balance. It gives a balance, and
it gives me some fodder when I have to defend
talk media as being all conservative that it's not that.
There's a tremendous number of left and liberal and democratic
sympathetic and centrist podcasts out there, especially on YouTube, so
(27:10):
I do it to be able to stay in touch
with what people are thinking. I am skeptical of all
all of the conversation we cover because I find that
it's really a lot of cherry picking that I played
to the audience's political ideology as opposed to playing to
some type of balance and truth. But no, I listen
(27:33):
to the podcasts of the people we cover in radio,
and I find that the video podcast world is just
oozing with interesting commentary, which makes it its way to radio.
I'm still radio centric, quite aware that there's more to
this medium than just radio.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
I often say go to talkers dot com to get
the list, but you can find out what's going on
in the world of news talk radio and radio in
general by going to talkers dot com. You have a
very interesting article about the am FM rules the connected
car issues. One of the companies says that the people
that are on AMF from radio the most trusted voices,
(28:14):
most reliable coverage, and that sort of thing. It's a
good overall article, Michael, I think about what's.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Going on in our industry frankly, and so.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
You can see there's a study that is highlighted there
that you can read at talkers dot com. But you
know there are all these people who tell you I
don't need AM radio in the cars anymore.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
You know what a load.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Of happy horsecrap that is this stuff.
Speaker 6 (28:39):
This big business, you know, pushing its own agenda.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Yep, for sure, all right, Michael Harrison and Doug Stephen
at forty eight after this is the countdown.
Speaker 7 (28:50):
Countdown.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
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radio Countdown Show continues radio Countdown.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
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tuning into our talk radio Countdown Show, which now focuses
on legal ease, if you will with Stephen JJ Wiseman,
(29:31):
Professor of law at Bentley University, practitioner of.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Law all over the Boston area.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
What's the furthest you've gone for a case where when
you look at the history of you being a lawyer,
how far out have you reached to help somebody?
Speaker 7 (29:47):
Well, you have to be a member of a state bar.
I mean, I'm also member of the Federal bar and
admitted to practice before the Supreme Court, but having had
cases there. So I'm only admitted in Massachusett, so pretty
much the entire state. But that's about it.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Good to know, all right, the Andrew Cuomo investigation, would
you please give some clarity to that. I'm not sure
that I've been talking about how much I enjoy watching
Chris Cuomo on News Nation.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
These days because I think he's about it.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
He's the real epitome of a fair and balanced So
what his his father is? Andrew was the mayor. Wasn't
he the governor of College? Well he had I was
thinking about running for mayor, but he was the governor.
So what's the who's investigating him for what?
Speaker 7 (30:34):
This, again is part of the Trump administration kind of
the game book, is to do investigations of anyone who
is a political enemy. I mean, so Cuomo is certainly
in the in the crosshairs on that, and I think
they're going back to when he was governor dealing with COVID.
(30:58):
Perhaps even more interesting is Letitia James, who is the
New York Attorney General, has been after the President's posterior
for quite a while and now he has ordered his
Justice Department, which he has weaponized. Before he used to say, oh,
it was bad that the Justice Department was weaponized during
the Biden administration, but going after her saying that she
(31:23):
had some illegal real estate deals. So this is you know,
there's nothing new here, and it really is. The Justice
Department was supposed to be non political, and he has
very much turned this into an arm of going after
his opponents. So I'm not sure the specifics with Cuomo,
(31:46):
but you know, it's like you can find what something
on anybody and make it sound like it's something.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Right, Yeah, you can, all right, So there.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
And by the way, I talk about Chris Cuomo his
son on News Nation and they had brother.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
That's why too is brother. Yeah, what's miss Mario was
his father.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
And Trump was on a town hall that they had
on News Nation that was led by Chris Cuomo, and
he talked about how Trump said to Chris, I was
a big fan of your father's He and I did
a lot of things together.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
He was a great governor.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
He didn't say anything about his brother Andrew, however, which
that was interesting.
Speaker 7 (32:27):
I was a fan of Mario Cuomo. I think you
and I both met him at one of the.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
Car we did, you know, interestingly enough, I did when
early on in my career was on w MCA in
New York, the father Mario Cuomo, I did a weekly
spot with me talking about what was going on, and
he was very, very, very I don't want to say pedantic,
that's not the right word, but deliberate in his speech.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Yeah, articulate and deliberate, Yes, right, that was the way. Yeah,
I think that was the way to describe him.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
Okay, So anyway, let's let's move into the legalities of
the Scotis Venezuelan gang ruling.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Were you surprised at that?
Speaker 7 (33:07):
No? You know, here again, the courts have been, you know,
pretty you know, on the one hand, pretty supportive of
the attacks on the president's use of like the Espionage
Act and others. But in this one, yeah, this ruling
that did was one of the few that did allow
(33:28):
him to take stronger action against certain gang members. As
much as I'm surprised, it is within it is within
the rules. It's the issue comes when he's violating due process,
which he has through so many of the edicts he's making.
But in that case, I think it's more of an
isolated matter. Much of his immigration policy has been so
(33:52):
far kicked down by the courts, who are having difficulty
enforcing it and will have even more difficulty if this
present budget bill has piece that the media hasn't picked
up on enough. Taking away the rights of federal courts
to make contempt orders against the president I think is
just absolutely outrageous.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
They're pretty clever, these people who know they aren't all
as dull as Pete Hegseith, however you pronounce, I think
BONDI is actually pretty smart.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Okay, that's it.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
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