May 30, 2025 • 33 mins
5/31/25 - #1 This Week, The Big, Beautiful Bill / National Debt
Host Doug Stephan along with Michael Harrison, Editor/Publisher of Talkers Magazine, review the most talked about stories and people on news/talk radio for the week of May 26th, 2025 through May 30th, 2025. Compiled by the research department at Talkers Magazine - The Bible of Talk Radio and the New Talk Media - www.talkers.com
STORIES
Host Doug Stephan along with Michael Harrison, Editor/Publisher of Talkers Magazine, review the most talked about stories and people on news/talk radio for the week of May 26th, 2025 through May 30th, 2025. Compiled by the research department at Talkers Magazine - The Bible of Talk Radio and the New Talk Media - www.talkers.com
STORIES
- Big, Beautiful Bill / National Debt
- Trump Tariffs Ruling
- Trump vs Harvard / Chinese Student Visas Policy
- Musk to Leave DOGE
- Israel-Gaza War / Iran Nuclear Talks
- Russia-Ukraine War / Trump-Putin Tensions
- FBI-ICE Arrests
- Golden Dome Defense System
- Pardons & Commutations
- Diddy Trial
- Donald Trump
- Mike Johnson
- Alan Garber
- Elon Musk
- Benjamin Netanyahu
- Vladimir Putin
- Xi Jinping
- Jake Tapper
- Todd & Julie Chrisley
- Sean “Diddy” Combs
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that's been done this past week by listening and talking
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have this list of the top stories of the week,
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going to go through that and then we're going to
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the Royalty of Rock. That rung a bell with me
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I remember that.
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He dumb? Did he do?
Speaker 5 (03:00):
Trial? At number ten? We have nine pardons and commutations?
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Did he steal that song too? Or is that something
he still?
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Yeah?
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He made that was his own music.
Speaker 5 (03:11):
That was Manford Man. It was yeah, yeah, good song.
He puked it do don't did it?
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Do you know? It just dosn't?
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Aside, one of the fellows that died this week was
the leader of hang On Sloopy, of the group that
did hang On Sloopy, And that was the first song
I ever played on the radio. That was my debut
in nineteen sixty five. I was introducing hang On Sloopy
by the McCoy's and the lead singer for the.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
White Group Boys and those guys. I remember the song
hang On, hang On Sloopy, Sloopy, hang On Bom Bom
boom boom. Well, I mean those good they were good
songs because of the time and the place when you
look back at when you judgment in a vacuum, they
were basically insipid, but they're they're very special to us.
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Same chords and yeah right, insipid teenage love songs.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Yeah right, all right?
Speaker 5 (04:06):
So where where we we're at? The Golden number nine,
number nine, Pardons and Commutations, number eight, Golden Dome Defense System,
number seven, the FBI ice arrests. Then at number six
we get into some of the heavy lifting with the
Russia Ukraine war tied with the Trump Putent tensions. That's
a that's a fun thing to watch, Nicole Fine. At
number five, Israel Gaza war and the Iran nuclear talks.
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At number four another fun relationship. Musk is leaving Doge,
He's leaving Dodge, Get out of Dodge. At number three,
Trump versus Harvard and the Chinese student visa policy is
part of number three. Number two the Trump Tariff's ruling.
And at number one, Big Beautiful Bill. I'm a big
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beautiful bill here and the national debt.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
That's my new jock handle. I'm big beautiful Bill. And
you're listening to the Big Beautiful Bill radio program. Bhi
a Yang talk about.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
Pugin yeah, and that's about all I have to say.
That's creative is my name and the name of the show.
Number ten, The aforementioned Sean Diddy, Combs at number nine,
Todd and Julie Chrisly or whatever the name is, whoever
they are in and outraged God Jake Tapper at eight,
Zijen pingat seven, Vladimir Putin at six, number five, Benjamin
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at Yahoo, number four, Elon Musk number three, Alan Gerber
number two, Mike Johnson number one, Donald Trump, and Alan
Gerber is the president of Harvard. She's probably the only
person on the list of people may not know who
he is.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
He's the new president because the last president got fired
because of her complete mismanagement, and that would have been
it would have been interesting if she was still there,
how she'd be dealing with this. One of the things
that I think comes up as you examine this list,
how quickly Trump can turn on you and or an issue.
And it speaks to something that I've heard discussed a
(06:04):
great deal and actually been written about his mental People
are talking. I mean, they've been talking about his mental
state anyway for as long as he's been a public figure.
But really, now I've heard some it's not a it's
not a comparison between what Biden is about. But because
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he's always been like this, Trump has always quickly anybody
that crosses him or he wants out of his life,
he just just eliminates him. And so the conversation about
Trump and Putin and you know what it is that's
going on with him.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
I think Putin's.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Confused by it too, because he's keep Trump keeps out
he's my good buddy.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
And now you know, is that just is this showtime?
Is this just play?
Speaker 5 (06:53):
Everything with Trump comes down to his relationship, his personal relationship.
He he operates, he rates. First of all, he operates
the United States like a business, which is interesting. When
do you ever remember a president talking in terms of.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
We had a great week last week.
Speaker 5 (07:07):
We took in three trillion dollars and Eisenhower saying, man,
look we took intreated. It's like it's like, how was
the register this week? You know which president ever talked
about we took in how much money?
Speaker 1 (07:20):
We've been saying for years we want a businessman to
run the company in the country.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Well here I am, I just slipped into it. The
company in the country are the same.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
Thing right, right, But you never heard a president talk
about how much money we took in this month. No,
So that's one thing. The other thing is he runs.
He runs the country like a fighter pilot on a
small jet plane as opposed to a captain of a
seven fifty seven. He he thinks he's running a speedboat
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as opposed to a ocean liner.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
And now when you're seven seven, woo's bigger and better.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
So it comes across as herky jerky. President has to
have an even hand on the tiller, you know, and
that he doesn't have. He runs it like a small
when you're a small entrepreneur, even if it's a big company,
because the Trump organization always really was a small company
in terms of its inner circle, how it operates, and
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contractors and subjects and stuff. You change, but you do
it by the seat of your pants. So he's not
he's not a comfortable fit for the presidency of the
United States, at least in the minds of many, in
terms of the size of the ship and the nature
of being its pilot.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
But does it need to be trimmed? Does it need
his approach?
Speaker 1 (08:44):
The answer to that question is yes, it's the way
it's being approached that has people buffalo. It just is
is like, as you suggested, throw the crap against the
wall and see what sticks.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
And that's that's his approach to it.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
And yeah, that's how most of his run our businesses
because you have to be agile, you've got to be
able to turn and flip. And the government never has
done that. It's gotten worse and worse and worse and
worse and worse. So his approach is actually a good
approach from my perspective, except he's too erratic. And that's
what we're talking about, erratic with the policies, procedures, and
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the people. So we continue talking about this and many
other things that are part of our talk radio review.
It's the talk radio Countdown Show, Doug and Michael. Here
a focus on Elon Musk for a second. Michael, what
do you think the average person thinks he was one
hundred and twenty nine days in the White House. What
did he achieve?
Speaker 2 (09:38):
What did he accomplish? What's he done? What's the lasting
effect of his doze work? Now that he's gonzo.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
I think he dealt a tremendous amount of damage to
the Trump administration, and it's a position in the world.
I think he damaged his company and I think he
damaged his reputation, and some of it is because he
really showed who he is. I think it's extremely unpopular,
and I also happened to think and this is my
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own opinion, with all due respect to mister Musk, who
it really doesn't matter to him what I think of him.
I think Elon Musk is wrong so much so, I
think he's full of you know what when it comes
to a lot of the things that he has proclaimed.
It's one of those cases because he's got an air
of mystery about him and a certain exotic ethnical background
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that people find, you know, a little weird and they
don't know people we don't know, like, you know, what's
his background? You know, South Africa? What does that mean?
We don't We don't have enough the top of our heads.
The richest man in the world. Different business is SpaceX.
We're gonna go to Mars, We're gonna have. Most of
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this he talks about is somewhere between unlikely and impossible.
He's a BS artist and that's my opinion of them.
I say it because his impact on our lives is
so profound. At this point, he has so much momentum
and credit and attention that he has to be called
out well.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
And then we have to fix the ideas I said,
from my perspective anyway, I like the idea of trimming
the government. For sure, waste fraud or butte abuse is prevalent,
But to do it the way he just cut twenty
thousand people out of this department, and you got to
go through you have to have people that know the
doctrines of work and be able to separate the wheat
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from the chaff. They get to the good people, bring
good people in, get rid of the bad people. And
that wasn't their approach, at least it hasn't been. But
some of these people that direct these departments, like Kennedy,
have brought the people back that they need.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
They've got to be doing that with the.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
FAA pretty quickly because that still is a really serious mess.
So anyway, we go on talking about what's going on
in the world from the perspective of great talk radio
programs all around the country.
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Our weekly visit Michael Arrison and Doug Stephen visiting with
you on the Talk Radio Countdown Show review of what's
going on in the world of news talk with its
radio television. Look at all of the podcasts we've been
talking about lately, all the people that are a part
of this fabulous is the ability that we have to
talk about things freely in this country, although.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Sometimes when you talk about things too.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Freely, you get on the cross list. At look at
all of these these events that have been held at
the White House and the questions and answers. He's been
having a lot of reporters just come in to the
way into the Oval office or wherever they are, and
the questions are being fired at. And if you don't
like him, he'll spend five minutes talking about what awful
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people they are at NBC or ABC or CBS are terrible.
And you know, the focus is on some of these
who are these people? Some of us don't even know
who they are. But one person that is visible and
has been is Jake Tapper from CNN, who has made
it to the list this week, the number eight person
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on the person on the on the list this book
what do you make of this, Michael, I've been eager
to ask you this all week about him. Is he
floating into oblivion? Has he has he ruined his career?
Where do you think he is at this point? Jake Tapper, Jack.
Speaker 5 (13:51):
Chopper, Jake Tapper has been one of the flotsam on
the sea of media oblivion for years and.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
It's very worried by the way, but is much more
important than he was?
Speaker 5 (14:07):
Yeah, yeah, but you know you're covering some interesting areas there.
First of all, you're talking about access that it seems
more important for reporters to have access to power than
to whole power to truth, and that's a whole major
issue about journalism and democracy and freedom. The book is
another opportunity for somebody to make a lot of money.
Who is an inside story about the era of Trump.
(14:30):
It'll just be another book on the shelf. Eventually, nothing
happens as a result of these things. And at this
point I would think that Jake Tapper is going to
have to decide whether he wants to be a celebrity
in the political circus or he wants to actually be
a journalist, and he'll probably wind up judging the success
or failure of his career by how much money he makes.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
I've never really had it. He's never done it for me.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
I've always thought, and most of the people at CNM,
with the exception of Wolf Blitzer, I have always come
across as being pretty one sided. It's pretty obvious, and
their questions and their attitude, and now they talk about issues.
The one guy that was at CNN, I've talked about
him here before is Chris Cuomo who's now at News Nation,
who has I don't know that he's done a complete flip.
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I never really paid much attention because I never like
CNN except when Wolf was on.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
But now I find myself.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Almost every night and I said this last week, and
I may have said it the week before. At eight o'clock,
I go to News Nation if I'm in the house,
and I watch Cuomo and I get not only his
take is my take on these things.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
And isn't that why we watch people?
Speaker 5 (15:36):
I mean admitting that you just want to be preached to.
But I want to know is when do we start
receiving checks from them for the commercials that we do
for me? Okay, I mean now you're telling time and
telling people want to go to it, and the reason
being because you agree with him, I.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Like him to approach.
Speaker 5 (15:55):
About yourself. I'm saying that happens, Jah, I find Look, look,
you have every right to touch whatever you want. In
terms of the scene, we don't have we don't have
rules on this program other than uh, not to lie,
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not to see anybody. But I don't know. I I
look at I don't love any of these guys. I see.
My job is to have an objective overview, protect their
freedom of speech, and realize that they're just people trying
to stay Afloat is flotsome on the sea of media.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Flotsom. You have to I want to know what the definition.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
Of flats the right thing?
Speaker 2 (16:36):
I hope it's flotsom. Spikus it took us? Can I
use that it took us?
Speaker 5 (16:43):
I'm going to have that moment.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
The appeals Court temporarily halted the ruling that invalidated Trump's tariffs,
So there were two rulings that conflicted. And as I
brought that up, I'm thinking to myself, as I'm saying,
is that confusing to be well?
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Because there was a ruling.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
For those of you who may not have heard the
first time, around.
Speaker 6 (17:05):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
The ruling was the Trump tariffs are no good. You
got to stop it now. And then that the differently
I was gonna say, the Defense Department, the uh, the
the the the illegal, the illegal beagles in the White
House went to work right away and they found a
way to bring to court a way to stop, at
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least temporarily the what the court stopped something, and now
they are the court stopping what they stopped.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Is that about right, Michael?
Speaker 5 (17:37):
Yeah, there's some everything is getting twisted and kind of
nooted up.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
M m yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
So that's the that's the bottom line. So the terriffs continue.
I have found I have a friend, a business partner
who's in the car business, and we've been talking about
this and how it affects the business.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
For a while. It was confused.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
And so then they for whatever the reason, all these
foreign made cars like Audi's they were sitting on ships
off the coast of Newark. They all have been brought in.
They've been brought to the dealership, so they have supply again.
They've added a little bit of money, but not much.
Some dealerships have not added any money at all for
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parts and that kind of stuff. So my point is
that there was a lot of noise, but nobody really knows.
Trump says stuff, as we know, and most of it's
not true. So you know, who knows whether what did
he say this week.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Like a train and a half been in or something.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
What you're talking about, well, a trillion doesn't mean anything,
because the whole definition of tariffs doesn't mean anything. We're
not talking, we're not talking academic reality. We're just talking
through our hats and Trump is doing so. And I
still don't know whether he's ignorant of what tariffs are
or he's playing with the words to his advantage in
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terms of what he calls negotiation. But the fact of
the matter is is that what you're talking about led
to toward the end of the week the term taco
becoming popular and the chance for Trump always chickens out.
And the answer now is is that the Wall Street
people who would react so quickly to everything Trump said
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about tariffs and the stock market would plunge and the
stock market would come back, it doesn't take them long
to figure out patterns, and the patterns that they figured
out is that Trump always chickens out when it comes
to the tariffs. Trump says no, I start real high
and then I work down and you know, it's a deal.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Let's make a deal.
Speaker 5 (19:41):
It's back to him running the company like a country,
or vice versa, running the country like a company. What
do you mean it's gonna I'm gonna pay that much
for two dozen of your cans of beans, you know, right,
And that's what's going on. So the Trump, the Trump
always chickens out, which is really, toward the end of
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the week, the top conversation within the tariffs and the
economy and the big beautiful bill and all the things
we're talking about. It's led to Trump always chickens out,
which is Wall Street basically saying, ah, he doesn't mean,
he doesn't mean what he says. As soon as there's
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a little pushback, the game is afoot and it ain't
the end of the world. And all this stuff we're
taking in trillions, where are we taking it in? Where's
the box office, where's the cash register, where's the money?
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Tell me the money?
Speaker 5 (20:41):
None of it is happening. None of it. I've never
seen so much bs in all my life.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
So do we apply that thinking to the Harvard situation,
where once again there was a federal court that said
the order that blocked Trump to you know, they're trying
to prevent Harvard from enrolling international students. That became the
big thing was graduation at Harvard this week. And as
the graduation was going on, the judge changed, you know,
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he said, no more international students. And Marco Rubio and
that bunch was trying to figure out how to keep
those students out, along with the Chinese students especially, and
the judge said, now, well, we're not going to let
you keep Harvard from having international students. Didn't say anything
about the money yet, but listen. And then there was
(21:30):
the issue about whether Baron actually his son applied to Harvard,
and that's what this was all about.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
And this is Trump says, no, he never applied.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
To Harvard stand in New York. So okay, what's the
motivation here? I don't like Harvard because they are too liberals.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
Maybe he's demanding that Harvard moved to New York. I mean,
who knows, you know, who does with these people?
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Right exactly?
Speaker 5 (21:55):
But but no, you bring up another interest in question.
Does the Trump always chickens out concept apply to his
battles every domestic with domestic organizations or he doesn't only
deal with his battles against other nations. He seems to
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have less tolerance for standing up to other nations because
he can't control the narrative. He can't control them the
way he can control what goes on in this country
in terms of his influence over courts and his influence
over the media. He can't control other countries. And he
knows he's bluffing. He knows he's bluffing because he he's
got to know what anybody with a tenth grade economics
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education knows about tariffs and taxes. He even used the
word tax the other day in one of his impromptu
press conferences. When he meant to say tariff, he called
it a tax. They're taxes and their taxes in the
American business community and hence American public.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Well, the one good thing is that the interest rates
if you're borrowing money to buy a house Etcenter Center,
those interest rates are still going down, even though the
Fed has held their rate to be the same. That'll that'll,
you know, if his rhetoric calms down a little bit,
I think that will affect their rates because they want
to keep in place to where it is. Unemployment is
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still a good place. So you look at all these
various things people say, he's going to ruin the economy.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
You just said in another way.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
That you know, because not many people are paying to
every what he's saying. So the business of business is
carrying you on. So have faith, folks. Go buy a
new car if you need one, Go buy a new
house if you.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Want to move, and you know the world will continue.
Doug Stefan with Michael Harrison.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
I want to just take a quick overview, Michael, what's
going on in Canada this week. They have some dangerous
wildfires that have started. There are other things that are
going on in Canada that sort of and if you
will need our they need our help, they need our attention,
and I honestly don't know what's going on. Seventeen one
hundred and seventy thousand people have been evacuated as we
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get to the end of the week here because of
the smoke and the fire. This is the season for
all of that, and so we wonder, Okay, have they
even asked to have our help.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
I think they have, and.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
I don't know whether it's quietly being done or not,
because you know, we don't want to talk about the
things with Canada, like this new prehistoric sea monster that
was discovered in the waters of Canada. You know what,
we have American scientists looking at all of that.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
That was a big story on ABC that I saw
the other night.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
So anyway, has he flipped on that the pre the
King of England was in Canada this week? They're kind
of doing up yours to Trump and they're gonna man
ex Canada to be the fifty first state. Who even
thought there was any truth to that whatsoever?
Speaker 2 (25:01):
It's more bluster, right.
Speaker 5 (25:03):
Yeah, it's bluster, And ultimately, when push comes to shove,
we remain allies and we would help them, they would
help us, And in this case, we're going to help
them because it helps us because the winds and the
smoke are blowing our way. Yeah, So it's not like
it's not like, you know, the boundary, it's not like
the border matters whether they're a sovereign nation or the
fifty first state. The wind and the smoke no no boundaries,
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and the smoke's heading our way. So it's in our
interest to help them, both from a humanity standpoint and
also from a safety standpoint.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Right, So that brings us around to number eight, the
Golden Dome defense system that we talked about a little
bit last week here on this program. The idea that
we would do in America what the Israelis have done
to protect themselves. And one wonders whether that's so much
smoke or because there's so much money in the Defense
department budget, is there money there to build this thing?
And will it really do well? It's done the job
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in Israel, So are we just too big to have
this thing? I mean, how much money would it cost?
I kind of like the idea of feeling safe in
this era of you know, you never know who to trust,
and feeling safe is just a feeling because there's nothing
that says in a golden dome, whether it's in Israel
or here, really is safe.
Speaker 5 (26:20):
And I don't know how safe that people in Israel are,
and I don't know how safe we are. I think
it's a military industrial technique to move money around and
for a little bit of bluster, And it's all part
of Donald Trump's preoccupation with building barriers. He likes barriers,
(26:42):
he likes and I think he believes there is a dome.
I think he actually believes it's a Dome. That's going
to come one of those modern stadiums, you know.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Yeah, right, go to Dallas and of the stadium dome.
You know, I think the biggest example as we go
into the weekend and we're running a little tight on time,
here is what Katar said, Carter and I'll pronounced that thing.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
You know. He said, they're gonna give us Air Force one.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Trump started the conversation. Trump said, I'd like to have
that plane. Nobody that's that finally came out this week
more bs right, they didn't offer us the plane. He asked,
what are you doing with that plane? Can I have it?
Speaker 2 (27:24):
According to the.
Speaker 5 (27:26):
You gonna eat your potato. That potato took one fight
out of all right.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Anyway, so that's the that's the wrap from Michael's point
of view.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Anyway.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Up next Steven JJ Wiseman talking about some of the
legal aspects.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Of what's going on in this list this week. Michael,
have a wonderful week.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Michael Harrison and Doug Stephen Here at forty eight after
the hour on the.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
Cowtdown Countdown, weird got down what America is talking about.
The talk radio Countdown show continues Radio Countdown.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Yes, indeed, and I'm here. I'm Doug Stephan with and
my friend Stephen JJ. Wiseman acknowledging that we're being heard
on lots of great radio stations all around the country
like w MTM in Moultrie, Georgia, Hello to Georgia, and
out in Iowa and the Demon Damon Good Doug who
was his name, dmone, the singer Vic Damone. He lives
(28:31):
in Des Moines, Iowa and Fort Dodge that area.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
K w b G is the station in that area.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
I hit all those notes there, Stephen JJ. Okay, So
Trump versus Harvard, the Chinese student visa. One of the
things that we're trying to straighten out here is the
court ruling that said you can't do this, and then
then another court ruling.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
That says you can't do that.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
So you can't a double negative here, which means, I
guess the answer to the court cases is a positive result,
yes or no.
Speaker 6 (29:08):
Hopefully it's a positive result. And you know, dere ak again,
one of the things that we're seeing in so many
of the actions in the courts that have dealt with Trump,
and this is literally over the years, is unfortunately one
of the easiest thing to do is if you have money,
is to stall and keep appealing and bringing up other issues.
(29:28):
This has worked to the detriment of Trump in a
few instances, but often has worked to his benefit as
far as Arvard goes, and the attack, it's not just
on Harvard, it's an attack on really higher education. JD.
Vance actually gave a speech a couple of years ago
saying that the universities are the enemy and this is
(29:49):
a really dangerous thing for democracy. And you know, Trump
talking about getting kids from China with remedial math, where
does he get these things? And shame of the media
for not asking and saying, well, where is your evidence.
Bottom line is the universities in this country they need
(30:11):
foreign students and far from you know, taking the places
of American students. American students really aren't applying to colleges
as much as they did in the past. Some of
that has to do with cost. But these kids that
are coming in and this has been pretty much since
the seventies, are the heart blood of higher education. And
(30:32):
if this is not stopped, although the courts appear to
be putting a halt to it, and even Trump is
back down somewhat on Harvard, our higher education system, which
is in need of reform. It's far too expensive.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Is in real trouble, Yeah, it really is.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Okay, So another item this week, the FBI doing all
these arrests, the business of whether or not people are
coming back to the country.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
That's a little known fact that a lot.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Of the people that are being deported, if their records
are clean, they're being helped by the government.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
They fill out some forms and the government.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Gives them the right to come back again, gives them
the right paperwork, and they're back. Which is not the
other side of the story, but I think it's worth
a moment or two of our time, just because all
the glitters is in gold when it comes to the
way the news media is treating this.
Speaker 6 (31:26):
You agree, oh absolutely. And you know this is something
where I put a lot of the blame on Congress
because Congress really has dropped the ball in legislation for
an intelligent immigration policy. You know, the total open door
and the ignoring of illegals, you know, wasn't something that works.
(31:50):
But there are some basics that we really have to
understand here. You know, here the Trump administrator is saying,
we need more babies. You know what we do need
more labor in this country of the A lot of
the jobs are filled by immigrants, many of whom take
jobs that Americans wouldn't. And we also are getting higher
skilled immigrants coming in. And you know, limiting this is
(32:14):
in no one's best interest. And you know, it just
shows the you know, the draconian nature of gathering people
without due process. That's the whole idea, throwing them out
and saying, oh sorry, now you can come back. Talk
about a total waste of money and the attack on humans.
The policies just need to be thought out. There, they're
not thought out policies. Even yesterday, it's a little bit different.
(32:39):
Tangent Health and Human Services issued a report on the
health of children and it was filled with studies that
were non existent. They just used they used chat GPI
to come up with sources. It don't exist.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
It's hor Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
And the thing that we I'm just going to say,
good Lord at these pardons and the commutations left Todd
really crizly. What they basically say, you cheat on your
taxes and then you get away with it.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
There you go help yourself.
Speaker 6 (33:17):
All right, let's talk about that, Nick.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
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We're looking at the charts from Talkers Magazine, the research
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and what the substances many of these big beautiful stories, Michael,
so let's yeah, that's the big beautiful stories.
Speaker 5 (02:11):
Beautiful. Everything is beautiful. Everything is beautiful, beautiful, the audience
is beautiful, the girls beautiful. Some of you mentioned before
the Royalty of Rock. That rung a bell with me
because many many years ago, in the heyday of my
being a rock radio producer and talent, I produced a
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forty eight hour show called The Royalty of Rock.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
I remember that.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
It was carried. It was carried on a now defunct
operation that was one of the biggest in the country
at that time, the r KO Radio network. Do you
remember that? Oh god, oh match? Yeah, all right, let's
go through this. We have the do what did he did?
Speaker 2 (02:59):
He dumb? Did he do?
Speaker 5 (03:00):
Trial? At number ten? We have nine pardons and commutations?
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Did he steal that song too? Or is that something
he still?
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (03:09):
He made that was his own music.
Speaker 5 (03:11):
That was Manford Man. It was yeah, yeah, good song.
He puked it do don't did it?
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Do you know? It just dosn't?
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Aside, one of the fellows that died this week was
the leader of hang On Sloopy, of the group that
did hang On Sloopy, And that was the first song
I ever played on the radio. That was my debut
in nineteen sixty five. I was introducing hang On Sloopy
by the McCoy's and the lead singer for the.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
White Group Boys and those guys. I remember the song
hang On, hang On Sloopy, Sloopy, hang On Bom Bom
boom boom. Well, I mean those good they were good
songs because of the time and the place when you
look back at when you judgment in a vacuum, they
were basically insipid, but they're they're very special to us.
(04:00):
Same chords and yeah right, insipid teenage love songs.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Yeah right, all right?
Speaker 5 (04:06):
So where where we we're at? The Golden number nine,
number nine, Pardons and Commutations, number eight, Golden Dome Defense System,
number seven, the FBI ice arrests. Then at number six
we get into some of the heavy lifting with the
Russia Ukraine war tied with the Trump Putent tensions. That's
a that's a fun thing to watch, Nicole Fine. At
number five, Israel Gaza war and the Iran nuclear talks.
(04:31):
At number four another fun relationship. Musk is leaving Doge,
He's leaving Dodge, Get out of Dodge. At number three,
Trump versus Harvard and the Chinese student visa policy is
part of number three. Number two the Trump Tariff's ruling.
And at number one, Big Beautiful Bill. I'm a big
(04:53):
beautiful bill here and the national debt.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
That's my new jock handle. I'm big beautiful Bill. And
you're listening to the Big Beautiful Bill radio program. Bhi
a Yang talk about.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
Pugin yeah, and that's about all I have to say.
That's creative is my name and the name of the show.
Number ten, The aforementioned Sean Diddy, Combs at number nine,
Todd and Julie Chrisly or whatever the name is, whoever
they are in and outraged God Jake Tapper at eight,
Zijen pingat seven, Vladimir Putin at six, number five, Benjamin
(05:26):
at Yahoo, number four, Elon Musk number three, Alan Gerber
number two, Mike Johnson number one, Donald Trump, and Alan
Gerber is the president of Harvard. She's probably the only
person on the list of people may not know who
he is.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
He's the new president because the last president got fired
because of her complete mismanagement, and that would have been
it would have been interesting if she was still there,
how she'd be dealing with this. One of the things
that I think comes up as you examine this list,
how quickly Trump can turn on you and or an issue.
And it speaks to something that I've heard discussed a
(06:04):
great deal and actually been written about his mental People
are talking. I mean, they've been talking about his mental
state anyway for as long as he's been a public figure.
But really, now I've heard some it's not a it's
not a comparison between what Biden is about. But because
(06:24):
he's always been like this, Trump has always quickly anybody
that crosses him or he wants out of his life,
he just just eliminates him. And so the conversation about
Trump and Putin and you know what it is that's
going on with him.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
I think Putin's.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Confused by it too, because he's keep Trump keeps out
he's my good buddy.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
And now you know, is that just is this showtime?
Is this just play?
Speaker 5 (06:53):
Everything with Trump comes down to his relationship, his personal relationship.
He he operates, he rates. First of all, he operates
the United States like a business, which is interesting. When
do you ever remember a president talking in terms of.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
We had a great week last week.
Speaker 5 (07:07):
We took in three trillion dollars and Eisenhower saying, man,
look we took intreated. It's like it's like, how was
the register this week? You know which president ever talked
about we took in how much money?
Speaker 1 (07:20):
We've been saying for years we want a businessman to
run the company in the country.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Well here I am, I just slipped into it. The
company in the country are the same.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
Thing right, right, But you never heard a president talk
about how much money we took in this month. No,
So that's one thing. The other thing is he runs.
He runs the country like a fighter pilot on a
small jet plane as opposed to a captain of a
seven fifty seven. He he thinks he's running a speedboat
(07:52):
as opposed to a ocean liner.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
And now when you're seven seven, woo's bigger and better.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
So it comes across as herky jerky. President has to
have an even hand on the tiller, you know, and
that he doesn't have. He runs it like a small
when you're a small entrepreneur, even if it's a big company,
because the Trump organization always really was a small company
in terms of its inner circle, how it operates, and
(08:21):
contractors and subjects and stuff. You change, but you do
it by the seat of your pants. So he's not
he's not a comfortable fit for the presidency of the
United States, at least in the minds of many, in
terms of the size of the ship and the nature
of being its pilot.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
But does it need to be trimmed? Does it need
his approach?
Speaker 1 (08:44):
The answer to that question is yes, it's the way
it's being approached that has people buffalo. It just is
is like, as you suggested, throw the crap against the
wall and see what sticks.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
And that's that's his approach to it.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
And yeah, that's how most of his run our businesses
because you have to be agile, you've got to be
able to turn and flip. And the government never has
done that. It's gotten worse and worse and worse and
worse and worse. So his approach is actually a good
approach from my perspective, except he's too erratic. And that's
what we're talking about, erratic with the policies, procedures, and
(09:19):
the people. So we continue talking about this and many
other things that are part of our talk radio review.
It's the talk radio Countdown Show, Doug and Michael. Here
a focus on Elon Musk for a second. Michael, what
do you think the average person thinks he was one
hundred and twenty nine days in the White House. What
did he achieve?
Speaker 2 (09:38):
What did he accomplish? What's he done? What's the lasting
effect of his doze work? Now that he's gonzo.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
I think he dealt a tremendous amount of damage to
the Trump administration, and it's a position in the world.
I think he damaged his company and I think he
damaged his reputation, and some of it is because he
really showed who he is. I think it's extremely unpopular,
and I also happened to think and this is my
(10:09):
own opinion, with all due respect to mister Musk, who
it really doesn't matter to him what I think of him.
I think Elon Musk is wrong so much so, I
think he's full of you know what when it comes
to a lot of the things that he has proclaimed.
It's one of those cases because he's got an air
of mystery about him and a certain exotic ethnical background
(10:31):
that people find, you know, a little weird and they
don't know people we don't know, like, you know, what's
his background? You know, South Africa? What does that mean?
We don't We don't have enough the top of our heads.
The richest man in the world. Different business is SpaceX.
We're gonna go to Mars, We're gonna have. Most of
(10:53):
this he talks about is somewhere between unlikely and impossible.
He's a BS artist and that's my opinion of them.
I say it because his impact on our lives is
so profound. At this point, he has so much momentum
and credit and attention that he has to be called
out well.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
And then we have to fix the ideas I said,
from my perspective anyway, I like the idea of trimming
the government. For sure, waste fraud or butte abuse is prevalent,
But to do it the way he just cut twenty
thousand people out of this department, and you got to
go through you have to have people that know the
doctrines of work and be able to separate the wheat
(11:38):
from the chaff. They get to the good people, bring
good people in, get rid of the bad people. And
that wasn't their approach, at least it hasn't been. But
some of these people that direct these departments, like Kennedy,
have brought the people back that they need.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
They've got to be doing that with the.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
FAA pretty quickly because that still is a really serious mess.
So anyway, we go on talking about what's going on
in the world from the perspective of great talk radio
programs all around the country.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
On the talk radio Countdown.
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Show Talk Radio Countdown.
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Our weekly visit Michael Arrison and Doug Stephen visiting with
you on the Talk Radio Countdown Show review of what's
going on in the world of news talk with its
radio television. Look at all of the podcasts we've been
talking about lately, all the people that are a part
of this fabulous is the ability that we have to
talk about things freely in this country, although.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Sometimes when you talk about things too.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Freely, you get on the cross list. At look at
all of these these events that have been held at
the White House and the questions and answers. He's been
having a lot of reporters just come in to the
way into the Oval office or wherever they are, and
the questions are being fired at. And if you don't
like him, he'll spend five minutes talking about what awful
(13:14):
people they are at NBC or ABC or CBS are terrible.
And you know, the focus is on some of these
who are these people? Some of us don't even know
who they are. But one person that is visible and
has been is Jake Tapper from CNN, who has made
it to the list this week, the number eight person
(13:35):
on the person on the on the list this book
what do you make of this, Michael, I've been eager
to ask you this all week about him. Is he
floating into oblivion? Has he has he ruined his career?
Where do you think he is at this point? Jake Tapper, Jack.
Speaker 5 (13:51):
Chopper, Jake Tapper has been one of the flotsam on
the sea of media oblivion for years and.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
It's very worried by the way, but is much more
important than he was?
Speaker 5 (14:07):
Yeah, yeah, but you know you're covering some interesting areas there.
First of all, you're talking about access that it seems
more important for reporters to have access to power than
to whole power to truth, and that's a whole major
issue about journalism and democracy and freedom. The book is
another opportunity for somebody to make a lot of money.
Who is an inside story about the era of Trump.
(14:30):
It'll just be another book on the shelf. Eventually, nothing
happens as a result of these things. And at this
point I would think that Jake Tapper is going to
have to decide whether he wants to be a celebrity
in the political circus or he wants to actually be
a journalist, and he'll probably wind up judging the success
or failure of his career by how much money he makes.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
I've never really had it. He's never done it for me.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
I've always thought, and most of the people at CNM,
with the exception of Wolf Blitzer, I have always come
across as being pretty one sided. It's pretty obvious, and
their questions and their attitude, and now they talk about issues.
The one guy that was at CNN, I've talked about
him here before is Chris Cuomo who's now at News Nation,
who has I don't know that he's done a complete flip.
(15:16):
I never really paid much attention because I never like
CNN except when Wolf was on.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
But now I find myself.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Almost every night and I said this last week, and
I may have said it the week before. At eight o'clock,
I go to News Nation if I'm in the house,
and I watch Cuomo and I get not only his
take is my take on these things.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
And isn't that why we watch people?
Speaker 5 (15:36):
I mean admitting that you just want to be preached to.
But I want to know is when do we start
receiving checks from them for the commercials that we do
for me? Okay, I mean now you're telling time and
telling people want to go to it, and the reason
being because you agree with him, I.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Like him to approach.
Speaker 5 (15:55):
About yourself. I'm saying that happens, Jah, I find Look, look,
you have every right to touch whatever you want. In
terms of the scene, we don't have we don't have
rules on this program other than uh, not to lie,
(16:15):
not to see anybody. But I don't know. I I
look at I don't love any of these guys. I see.
My job is to have an objective overview, protect their
freedom of speech, and realize that they're just people trying
to stay Afloat is flotsome on the sea of media.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Flotsom. You have to I want to know what the definition.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
Of flats the right thing?
Speaker 2 (16:36):
I hope it's flotsom. Spikus it took us? Can I
use that it took us?
Speaker 5 (16:43):
I'm going to have that moment.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
The appeals Court temporarily halted the ruling that invalidated Trump's tariffs,
So there were two rulings that conflicted. And as I
brought that up, I'm thinking to myself, as I'm saying,
is that confusing to be well?
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Because there was a ruling.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
For those of you who may not have heard the
first time, around.
Speaker 6 (17:05):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
The ruling was the Trump tariffs are no good. You
got to stop it now. And then that the differently
I was gonna say, the Defense Department, the uh, the
the the the illegal, the illegal beagles in the White
House went to work right away and they found a
way to bring to court a way to stop, at
(17:27):
least temporarily the what the court stopped something, and now
they are the court stopping what they stopped.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Is that about right, Michael?
Speaker 5 (17:37):
Yeah, there's some everything is getting twisted and kind of
nooted up.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
M m yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
So that's the that's the bottom line. So the terriffs continue.
I have found I have a friend, a business partner
who's in the car business, and we've been talking about
this and how it affects the business.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
For a while. It was confused.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
And so then they for whatever the reason, all these
foreign made cars like Audi's they were sitting on ships
off the coast of Newark. They all have been brought in.
They've been brought to the dealership, so they have supply again.
They've added a little bit of money, but not much.
Some dealerships have not added any money at all for
(18:22):
parts and that kind of stuff. So my point is
that there was a lot of noise, but nobody really knows.
Trump says stuff, as we know, and most of it's
not true. So you know, who knows whether what did
he say this week.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Like a train and a half been in or something.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
What you're talking about, well, a trillion doesn't mean anything,
because the whole definition of tariffs doesn't mean anything. We're
not talking, we're not talking academic reality. We're just talking
through our hats and Trump is doing so. And I
still don't know whether he's ignorant of what tariffs are
or he's playing with the words to his advantage in
(18:58):
terms of what he calls negotiation. But the fact of
the matter is is that what you're talking about led
to toward the end of the week the term taco
becoming popular and the chance for Trump always chickens out.
And the answer now is is that the Wall Street
people who would react so quickly to everything Trump said
(19:22):
about tariffs and the stock market would plunge and the
stock market would come back, it doesn't take them long
to figure out patterns, and the patterns that they figured
out is that Trump always chickens out when it comes
to the tariffs. Trump says no, I start real high
and then I work down and you know, it's a deal.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Let's make a deal.
Speaker 5 (19:41):
It's back to him running the company like a country,
or vice versa, running the country like a company. What
do you mean it's gonna I'm gonna pay that much
for two dozen of your cans of beans, you know, right,
And that's what's going on. So the Trump, the Trump
always chickens out, which is really, toward the end of
(20:03):
the week, the top conversation within the tariffs and the
economy and the big beautiful bill and all the things
we're talking about. It's led to Trump always chickens out,
which is Wall Street basically saying, ah, he doesn't mean,
he doesn't mean what he says. As soon as there's
(20:25):
a little pushback, the game is afoot and it ain't
the end of the world. And all this stuff we're
taking in trillions, where are we taking it in? Where's
the box office, where's the cash register, where's the money?
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Tell me the money?
Speaker 5 (20:41):
None of it is happening. None of it. I've never
seen so much bs in all my life.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
So do we apply that thinking to the Harvard situation,
where once again there was a federal court that said
the order that blocked Trump to you know, they're trying
to prevent Harvard from enrolling international students. That became the
big thing was graduation at Harvard this week. And as
the graduation was going on, the judge changed, you know,
(21:09):
he said, no more international students. And Marco Rubio and
that bunch was trying to figure out how to keep
those students out, along with the Chinese students especially, and
the judge said, now, well, we're not going to let
you keep Harvard from having international students. Didn't say anything
about the money yet, but listen. And then there was
(21:30):
the issue about whether Baron actually his son applied to Harvard,
and that's what this was all about.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
And this is Trump says, no, he never applied.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
To Harvard stand in New York. So okay, what's the
motivation here? I don't like Harvard because they are too liberals.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
Maybe he's demanding that Harvard moved to New York. I mean,
who knows, you know, who does with these people?
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Right exactly?
Speaker 5 (21:55):
But but no, you bring up another interest in question.
Does the Trump always chickens out concept apply to his
battles every domestic with domestic organizations or he doesn't only
deal with his battles against other nations. He seems to
(22:15):
have less tolerance for standing up to other nations because
he can't control the narrative. He can't control them the
way he can control what goes on in this country
in terms of his influence over courts and his influence
over the media. He can't control other countries. And he
knows he's bluffing. He knows he's bluffing because he he's
got to know what anybody with a tenth grade economics
(22:41):
education knows about tariffs and taxes. He even used the
word tax the other day in one of his impromptu
press conferences. When he meant to say tariff, he called
it a tax. They're taxes and their taxes in the
American business community and hence American public.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Well, the one good thing is that the interest rates
if you're borrowing money to buy a house Etcenter Center,
those interest rates are still going down, even though the
Fed has held their rate to be the same. That'll that'll,
you know, if his rhetoric calms down a little bit,
I think that will affect their rates because they want
to keep in place to where it is. Unemployment is
(23:19):
still a good place. So you look at all these
various things people say, he's going to ruin the economy.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
You just said in another way.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
That you know, because not many people are paying to
every what he's saying. So the business of business is
carrying you on. So have faith, folks. Go buy a
new car if you need one, Go buy a new
house if you.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Want to move, and you know the world will continue.
Doug Stefan with Michael Harrison.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
I want to just take a quick overview, Michael, what's
going on in Canada this week. They have some dangerous
wildfires that have started. There are other things that are
going on in Canada that sort of and if you
will need our they need our help, they need our attention,
and I honestly don't know what's going on. Seventeen one
hundred and seventy thousand people have been evacuated as we
(24:10):
get to the end of the week here because of
the smoke and the fire. This is the season for
all of that, and so we wonder, Okay, have they
even asked to have our help.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
I think they have, and.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
I don't know whether it's quietly being done or not,
because you know, we don't want to talk about the
things with Canada, like this new prehistoric sea monster that
was discovered in the waters of Canada. You know what,
we have American scientists looking at all of that.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
That was a big story on ABC that I saw
the other night.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
So anyway, has he flipped on that the pre the
King of England was in Canada this week? They're kind
of doing up yours to Trump and they're gonna man
ex Canada to be the fifty first state. Who even
thought there was any truth to that whatsoever?
Speaker 2 (25:01):
It's more bluster, right.
Speaker 5 (25:03):
Yeah, it's bluster, And ultimately, when push comes to shove,
we remain allies and we would help them, they would
help us, And in this case, we're going to help
them because it helps us because the winds and the
smoke are blowing our way. Yeah, So it's not like
it's not like, you know, the boundary, it's not like
the border matters whether they're a sovereign nation or the
fifty first state. The wind and the smoke no no boundaries,
(25:28):
and the smoke's heading our way. So it's in our
interest to help them, both from a humanity standpoint and
also from a safety standpoint.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Right, So that brings us around to number eight, the
Golden Dome defense system that we talked about a little
bit last week here on this program. The idea that
we would do in America what the Israelis have done
to protect themselves. And one wonders whether that's so much
smoke or because there's so much money in the Defense
department budget, is there money there to build this thing?
And will it really do well? It's done the job
(26:01):
in Israel, So are we just too big to have
this thing? I mean, how much money would it cost?
I kind of like the idea of feeling safe in
this era of you know, you never know who to trust,
and feeling safe is just a feeling because there's nothing
that says in a golden dome, whether it's in Israel
or here, really is safe.
Speaker 5 (26:20):
And I don't know how safe that people in Israel are,
and I don't know how safe we are. I think
it's a military industrial technique to move money around and
for a little bit of bluster, And it's all part
of Donald Trump's preoccupation with building barriers. He likes barriers,
(26:42):
he likes and I think he believes there is a dome.
I think he actually believes it's a Dome. That's going
to come one of those modern stadiums, you know.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Yeah, right, go to Dallas and of the stadium dome.
You know, I think the biggest example as we go
into the weekend and we're running a little tight on time,
here is what Katar said, Carter and I'll pronounced that thing.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
You know. He said, they're gonna give us Air Force one.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Trump started the conversation. Trump said, I'd like to have
that plane. Nobody that's that finally came out this week
more bs right, they didn't offer us the plane. He asked,
what are you doing with that plane? Can I have it?
Speaker 2 (27:24):
According to the.
Speaker 5 (27:26):
You gonna eat your potato. That potato took one fight
out of all right.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Anyway, so that's the that's the wrap from Michael's point
of view.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Anyway.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Up next Steven JJ Wiseman talking about some of the
legal aspects.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Of what's going on in this list this week. Michael,
have a wonderful week.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Michael Harrison and Doug Stephen Here at forty eight after
the hour on the.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
Cowtdown Countdown, weird got down what America is talking about.
The talk radio Countdown show continues Radio Countdown.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Yes, indeed, and I'm here. I'm Doug Stephan with and
my friend Stephen JJ. Wiseman acknowledging that we're being heard
on lots of great radio stations all around the country
like w MTM in Moultrie, Georgia, Hello to Georgia, and
out in Iowa and the Demon Damon Good Doug who
was his name, dmone, the singer Vic Damone. He lives
(28:31):
in Des Moines, Iowa and Fort Dodge that area.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
K w b G is the station in that area.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
I hit all those notes there, Stephen JJ. Okay, So
Trump versus Harvard, the Chinese student visa. One of the
things that we're trying to straighten out here is the
court ruling that said you can't do this, and then
then another court ruling.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
That says you can't do that.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
So you can't a double negative here, which means, I
guess the answer to the court cases is a positive result,
yes or no.
Speaker 6 (29:08):
Hopefully it's a positive result. And you know, dere ak again,
one of the things that we're seeing in so many
of the actions in the courts that have dealt with Trump,
and this is literally over the years, is unfortunately one
of the easiest thing to do is if you have money,
is to stall and keep appealing and bringing up other issues.
(29:28):
This has worked to the detriment of Trump in a
few instances, but often has worked to his benefit as
far as Arvard goes, and the attack, it's not just
on Harvard, it's an attack on really higher education. JD.
Vance actually gave a speech a couple of years ago
saying that the universities are the enemy and this is
(29:49):
a really dangerous thing for democracy. And you know, Trump
talking about getting kids from China with remedial math, where
does he get these things? And shame of the media
for not asking and saying, well, where is your evidence.
Bottom line is the universities in this country they need
(30:11):
foreign students and far from you know, taking the places
of American students. American students really aren't applying to colleges
as much as they did in the past. Some of
that has to do with cost. But these kids that
are coming in and this has been pretty much since
the seventies, are the heart blood of higher education. And
(30:32):
if this is not stopped, although the courts appear to
be putting a halt to it, and even Trump is
back down somewhat on Harvard, our higher education system, which
is in need of reform. It's far too expensive.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Is in real trouble, Yeah, it really is.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Okay, So another item this week, the FBI doing all
these arrests, the business of whether or not people are
coming back to the country.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
That's a little known fact that a lot.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Of the people that are being deported, if their records
are clean, they're being helped by the government.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
They fill out some forms and the government.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Gives them the right to come back again, gives them
the right paperwork, and they're back. Which is not the
other side of the story, but I think it's worth
a moment or two of our time, just because all
the glitters is in gold when it comes to the
way the news media is treating this.
Speaker 6 (31:26):
You agree, oh absolutely. And you know this is something
where I put a lot of the blame on Congress
because Congress really has dropped the ball in legislation for
an intelligent immigration policy. You know, the total open door
and the ignoring of illegals, you know, wasn't something that works.
(31:50):
But there are some basics that we really have to
understand here. You know, here the Trump administrator is saying,
we need more babies. You know what we do need
more labor in this country of the A lot of
the jobs are filled by immigrants, many of whom take
jobs that Americans wouldn't. And we also are getting higher
skilled immigrants coming in. And you know, limiting this is
(32:14):
in no one's best interest. And you know, it just
shows the you know, the draconian nature of gathering people
without due process. That's the whole idea, throwing them out
and saying, oh sorry, now you can come back. Talk
about a total waste of money and the attack on humans.
The policies just need to be thought out. There, they're
not thought out policies. Even yesterday, it's a little bit different.
(32:39):
Tangent Health and Human Services issued a report on the
health of children and it was filled with studies that
were non existent. They just used they used chat GPI
to come up with sources. It don't exist.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
It's hor Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
And the thing that we I'm just going to say,
good Lord at these pardons and the commutations left Todd
really crizly. What they basically say, you cheat on your
taxes and then you get away with it.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
There you go help yourself.
Speaker 6 (33:17):
All right, let's talk about that, Nick.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Yeah, wait, yeah, we will, Okay, Stephen jj Wiseman here
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