May 2, 2025 • 36 mins
5/3/25 - Trump's First 100 Days Ia At Number One
Host Doug Stephan along with Michael Harrison, Editor/Publisher of Talkers Magazine, review the most talked about stories and people on news/talk radio for the week of APRIL 28th, 2025 through May 2nd, 2025. Compiled by the research department at Talkers Magazine - The Bible of Talk Radio and the New Talk Media - www.talkers.com
STORIES/TOPICS
Host Doug Stephan along with Michael Harrison, Editor/Publisher of Talkers Magazine, review the most talked about stories and people on news/talk radio for the week of APRIL 28th, 2025 through May 2nd, 2025. Compiled by the research department at Talkers Magazine - The Bible of Talk Radio and the New Talk Media - www.talkers.com
STORIES/TOPICS
- Trump’s First 100 Days / Polling Numbers
- Tariffs / U.S.-China Trade War / The Economy
- U.S.-Ukraine Minerals Deal
- Russia-Ukraine War
- DOGE / Musk and Tesla
- Canadian Elections
- Deportations / Abrego Garcia Case
- Trump vs Harvard
- Kamala Harris Speaks Out
- Belichick-Girlfriend Flap
- Donald Trump
- Xi Jinping
- Volodymyr Zelensky
- Vladimir Putin
- Elon Musk
- J.D. Vance
- Mark Carney
- Kilmar Abrego Garcia
- Joe Biden / Kamala Harris
- Bill Belichick / Jordon Hudson
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are of the week and the people who are on
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week by the folks at Talkers magazine. You can find
the list at talkers dot com. Michael Harrison is here.
He's the editor and publisher of a Talker's magazine to
go through the hall of fame for this week of
people who have made it to the top of conversation
and the stories as well from again the perspective of
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what's going on on these stations. So, Michael, I'm happy
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to get the research done. Not so much a yeoman's
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an hour, but it serves its purpose.
Speaker 6 (02:22):
We stand on the shoulders of giants, say, sweet, yes
we do, Bob K.
Speaker 7 (02:28):
That's right.
Speaker 6 (02:29):
And some of this is all of fame and some
of it is all of shame. At number two, we
have a little bit of sports and scandal and a
soap opera Belichick, the Belichick girlfriend flap at number ten.
Speaker 7 (02:45):
At number nine, we have Kamala And.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
This is also you didn't hear the story that Joe
Biden now has a new girlfriend named Kamala Harris.
Speaker 6 (02:54):
Wow, there was there something going on between I knew it.
I knew he slept his way to the presidency.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Yes to the top right, it's okay, all right, anything
that was actually clever.
Speaker 6 (03:10):
At number eight, Trump versus Harvard at number seven. Deportations
tied with the Abrego Garcia case at number six, the
Canadian elections at number five, all about doze musk.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Bye, bye see you later, Adie Yosla.
Speaker 6 (03:27):
Russia, Ukraine, the Russia Ukraine War occupies number four. At
number three, the US Ukraine Minerals Deal. At number two,
we have tariffs, the US China trade war and the economy.
And at number one, everybody was buzzing about, you know,
the artificial holiday, Trump's first one hundred days and polling
numbers that became a big mcgilla.
Speaker 7 (03:49):
On the people survey.
Speaker 6 (03:50):
We have the tie between Bill Belichick and his girlfriend,
the aforementioned Jordan Hudson, the yoko Ono of sports. No, actually,
the Yokowono of defenses had SEG's wife right.
Speaker 7 (04:08):
At number eight.
Speaker 6 (04:09):
We have Kilmore Abrego Garcia, Mark Karney at number seven,
jd Vance at number six, Elon Musk at five, Vladimir
Putin at four, Vladimir Zelenski there's a different pronunciation's Vladimir
Putin and Vladmir Zelenski he's three. Xi jen Ping, a
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man that Donald Trump is very friendly with and likes
very much, is at number two. And yeah, he always
has to point that out, which annoys the hell out
of me. Number yeah like like like international relations are
based upon people he likes, uh, and Donald Trump is
number one, and those are the people and those are
the stories.
Speaker 7 (04:49):
And this is another.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Yeah, in essence, the to listen to him it is
this past week, well, I don't think it was the
first time it was said, but I heard it said
many times. I and the ruler of America and the world.
Speaker 7 (05:03):
I run the world, and I run the world. Yep.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
And you know what, there's a little something to do
that at least, as it turns out right now, lots
of protesting. Protect your turf there, boys and girls. Okay,
So that's the list, or those are the lists again.
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Speaker 2 (05:43):
That's how that works. Okay, So let's get.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
The I guess foolishness out of the way.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
First.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Bill Belichick won't talk because his girlfriend Jordan Hudson won't
let him talk about how they met.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Supposedly she was I think she was a cheer leader
or something.
Speaker 7 (06:00):
Doesn't she had.
Speaker 6 (06:01):
I don't think I heard that, well, she's very young.
He's old enough to be my grandfather. You know, the
issue is specific to Belichick and what his personality is like.
And then there's the old issue of older, older, wealthy
men attracting the attention and.
Speaker 7 (06:19):
The company of young beautiful women.
Speaker 6 (06:23):
And and and that's that's always a buzz his his
former boss Robert Kraft went through that as well. And
you know, it's a common thing, and it's and it's
always it's it's an interesting discussion. Do do older men
who have girlfriends that are young enough to be either
daughter or in some cases their granddaughter.
Speaker 7 (06:41):
Are they making fools of.
Speaker 6 (06:42):
Themselves or are they the subject of envy that their
critics really wish they had girlfriends like that too.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
You know, sorry, is it nobody's business but theirs?
Speaker 6 (06:51):
Well, but the thing is, when you're a celebrity, everybody's business.
I mean, I mean, none of this is anybody's business,
but it's everybody don't want to be celebrity.
Speaker 7 (07:02):
It seems, we don't we don't know, we don't know.
Speaker 6 (07:04):
Now, she's been accused some people of elder abuse that
she has some kind of a hold over him because
in a recent interview with CBS network. She was on
the sidelines, approving of questions and stopping them, and she
ran out of the room in a huff. I mean,
she's like, it's not just an annoyance, it's it's like,
what the hell's with this woman? And and why is
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Bill Belichick succumbing to her influence?
Speaker 7 (07:30):
Well maybe we know why, maybe we don't.
Speaker 6 (07:32):
So it's kind of an interesting sociological story because you know,
is is it embarrassing? Is it something that a man should,
you know, be self conscious of if he has a
girlfriend young enough to be his granddaughter, because you know,
would she be his would she be his girlfriend if
he were just you know, the guy that sold peanuts
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at the.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Because you're married. But me, yeah, she didn't. She didn't.
There isn't one thing about her that I find appealing.
Speaker 7 (08:02):
Not let me ask you a question.
Speaker 6 (08:05):
You're relatively a single person.
Speaker 7 (08:08):
I don't know your personal life.
Speaker 6 (08:09):
You might have relatively I am very much okay, okay,
And you are, you know, in the same generation as
Bill Belichick. Would you be comfortable having a girlfriend, a companion,
a female companion, a significant other young enough to be
your granddaughter?
Speaker 7 (08:27):
Would you find.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Daughter Megan an Stephan doctor of all kinds of things
and professor at UCLA would have me hanging by my
thumbs if there was anybody that was hanging around with
me that was even close.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
To her age.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
So the answer to that question is, I think the
largest difference may have been the last relationship I had
that was over seven eight years ago. There was fifteen
years differ between the lady and me and another woman
that I loved and loved and loved and loved. I
think it was she was my assistant at the radio
station in Boston. It was twenty if she was thirteen
(09:07):
years younger, I think. And then there was Hillary. You know,
it's always been sort of a teen thing, except my wife,
whom I probably loved. Really, when I get down to
brass tax here, as long as we're this is true stories,
they probably loved empoyman, I loved any of the rest
of them, But no, they I have more likely. And
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the reason that younger women were attracted to me and
me to them, I didn't have anything to do with age.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
It had to do with and it is in virility
so much.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
It was that I keep moving that you can't keep
up with me. And even at this age. Most people
who are not at my age but younger don't keep
up with me. And that's kind of what you know,
you guys live up or what's going on.
Speaker 6 (09:52):
There's other First of all, I bet you're right now
we have piqued the interest of our listeners just by
talking about this subject more than the average subject we
talk about. I think people are really interested in this topic,
and so it's a great opportunity to just touch and
explore it for a moment because it is on the
chart and it is legitimate. People are talking about Belichick
and Hudson. But the one issue is that it's not
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fair that a man in his sixties, seventies or eighties
has more life experience and can take advantage of a
young woman who has yet to learn certain things about life.
So there's an unfair advantage in general. The other one
is is that what have you got to talk about?
You don't have common.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
History, you don't have nothing exactly right.
Speaker 6 (10:35):
You know, she doesn't know the movies, the stars, the Beatles, the.
Speaker 7 (10:41):
History, and she does know the song.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
If you want to be happy for the rest of
your life, never make a pretty woman your wife.
Speaker 6 (10:49):
That's exactly all those subtle things that go into a relationship,
and there's more just the aesthetics of it. But I
don't know, it's an interesting costing.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
I'm thinking about your.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Wife at the moment.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
I'm thinking about you and your what I know about
your life and your family, it's quite different than what
I have experienced because your family has been what others
would refer to as very stable. And so your first
wife was someone I was extraordinarily very fond of, and
she passed away, and then you married the lady who
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has been kind of, in a manner of speaking, someone
who we've all known in the talk.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Radio business for as long as we've been at it.
Speaker 7 (11:41):
I knew years as a friend.
Speaker 6 (11:42):
I knew her in the same I never thought I
would be married to her, but it was either I wasn't.
Speaker 7 (11:49):
It wasn't a stranger.
Speaker 6 (11:50):
I married for almost sixteen years, was married to my
first wife for thirty six years.
Speaker 7 (11:57):
And so yeah, I would say I.
Speaker 6 (11:58):
Would say that I'm kind of a a stable guy
in that regard.
Speaker 7 (12:02):
I'm not holier than now. I don't.
Speaker 6 (12:03):
I'm not judging people, but I do find that Build
Belichick and Robert Kraft and any of these, uh, geezers
that suddenly show up with young women. And in this
case with Belichick, I mean, he's a billy and she's and.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
She's like, she's in she's a she's just I'm very
good when it comes to energy. For as many years
evy on the ear, I can tell body language and
listening to people. This woman is nothing other than a
hang around her And and I think there's probably the
fact that it is you know, say what you about Belichick.
(12:40):
He's a great football guy. Okay, So that's why do
you have to be great at everything? You can be
great at one thing, and that's what he's great at, so.
Speaker 7 (12:48):
And best that everything else.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Well, listen, God love him if he's having fun and
it's nobody else's business. And but everybody wants to talk
about it because if frankly, we're all tired of talking
about Trump as much as we have been, so it's
nice to have something else that's a distraction if nothing else.
But nothing has beaten Trump and his first one hundred
days and being everywhere, whether it was on ABC telling
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Terry I forget his last name matter, I knew who
he was. But Trump says, I chose you because I
don't know who you were, and you know, you're really awful,
and ABC is the worst. How you know, that's just
people laugh about it and it is kind of laughable,
but it tells you the guy is so angry he
thinks that's the appropriate way.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
And it works because if everybody watched the.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Thing and then there was the News Nation town Hall.
I don't know if you saw that or not. Michael
is one of the best pieces of television I have
seen for a long, long long time.
Speaker 6 (13:50):
And I've been talking about Carnival of Personalities.
Speaker 7 (13:54):
It was great to.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
With Stephen A.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Smith and Carville.
Speaker 7 (14:04):
I couldn't remember his name.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Oh my god.
Speaker 7 (14:08):
Car somewhat clown like character that he is, kind of Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
But his advice was good. It's the economy stupid. He
get Bill Clinton elected man well and.
Speaker 6 (14:19):
He also he also went out on a limit and
said there's no question that Kamala Harris is going to
win and Trump was going to lose. And then all
you know, these these pundits, they are shameless. When they're wrong,
they just forget about it. They go forward. They nobody
holds them accountable for whether they're right or wrong. And
and when they're right, Okay, they're right, but when they're wrong, I'm.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Going to hold him Other than the elector who's going
to hold him are responsible?
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Whose job is it to hold these guys responsible?
Speaker 6 (14:46):
I would think the people that carry them on their platforms,
the people that book them on the shows. I mean,
if a guy spends the entire election telling everybody every
time he's booked on a show, in every podcast that
he does that there is absolutely no doubt out that
Kamala Harris is going to beat Donald Trump, and and
she doesn't, don't you think that people should think twice
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about having him back as an expert.
Speaker 7 (15:10):
I mean that's all I mean.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
You know, you know you could say that for half
three quarters of the people. I could say that would
been Shapiro, and you could say it about maybe even
Joe Rogan.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Some of these podcasters that were radio people.
Speaker 6 (15:23):
You can, you can, and you should that they should
be held. I'm not saying they should be it should
be illegal for them to do what they're doing. I'm
off a free speech and variety. I'm just simply saying
that accountability goes in many directions. I don't necessarily agree
with you that talking about Kamala Harris is vapid.
Speaker 7 (15:41):
I think that.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
No, I didn't say that was vad. I said she's vapid.
If I didn't say to make that clear.
Speaker 7 (15:46):
Of course, of course, that of course is your is
your opinion.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
It is absolutely my opinion.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
And I could be wrong, just like James Carbo was wrong,
and it wouldn't be the first time in.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
My life on the air.
Speaker 7 (15:57):
No, No, there's a difference. There's a difference.
Speaker 6 (15:59):
There's a difference being wrong in a description of your
opinion of somebody and being wrong in your bold prediction
of what is going to happen.
Speaker 7 (16:07):
Those are two very different things. You never eat.
Speaker 6 (16:10):
No one could prove you're wrong that she's vapid or
she's a genius.
Speaker 7 (16:14):
That's an opinion.
Speaker 6 (16:15):
But diicting something and having it be wrong, that's a
different realm.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
In terms of how predict my prediction is Kamala Harris
runs for governor of California. I don't know how much
very crystal ball I need for that. Okay, we continue.
It's the halfway mark this week already in the talk
radio Countdown show, The.
Speaker 5 (16:32):
Talk Radio Countdown.
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Counting down what America is talking about? Welcome to the
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All across America talk radio and the Voices of Freedom don't.
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Stop talking the hour.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
This is the talk for Radio Cowtown Show. I'm Bet
Stephan along with Michael Harrison, the editor of a Talker's magazine.
But the good stories and the good People. I didn't
say it was a good people list. I didn't say
that people on the list of matter of fact, most
of them aren't.
Speaker 7 (17:17):
The good list of bad people.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Yes, there you go, bing bang boom.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
All right, so let's see here.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Jd Vance as usual this week is stuck his foot
in his mouth.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Elon Musk.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Looks like they're having a like a birthday party this
weekend for him, right because he's leaving, having a big
party for him.
Speaker 7 (17:36):
Is that I think that's this weekend and I guess
he's leaving. It seems to be the case.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Right exactly, so he can do whatever it is that
he wants to do. He's done, he has, you know
what he's done.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
That's good. A lot of things.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Actually, he's called attention to a lot of the stuff
that is all about the cris. I can remember every
year at April fifteenth, when I would say, do you
realize you folks listening how much fraud and corruption and
abuse you're paying for when you sign that check to
go to the irs. How much of that is going
(18:11):
into the toilet. You might as well be flushing it
down the toilet.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
And he said, well, what do you know? Well, how
would you get that information? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Hello, look around.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
That was one of the things.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
It may have been a little clumsy the way that
they've done it in terms of eliminating people and jobs
and descriptions, and that one of the things that came
out of the meeting of the thing when Dou's Nation
the other night. I have much greater respect for Cuomo
because he's been able to parley his sort of disaster
(18:43):
at CNN into success. Because the guy has great experience,
his great sensibilities to stuff. He's really a good he's
very much a great facilitator, I think. And so he
was talking about with the two or three of the people,
and I think Stephen A.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Smith jumped in on this.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Here's a guy that came from nowhere, right, look at
this guy.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
He's everywhere.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Last year at this time, people say, other than sports people,
who's Stephen A.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Smith? I never heard of this guy?
Speaker 1 (19:12):
So he I think if I'm remembering correctly pointed out
how many different, dozens of agencies are doing the same
thing at the Department of Defense, for example, Oh no,
you know who did it.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
It was RFK was on that thing. Robert F.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Kennedy Junior was on the DAIS on that show, and
he talked about the duplicity at the Health and Human
Services Department and why he was asked by one of
the members of the panel why he's getting rid of
all these people, and aren't you worried that people will
get sick because we're not doing research? And he looked
very he's very serious all the time. He doesn't show
a sense of humor, but this is serious stuff. And
(19:49):
he said, there were forty different agencies within the AHHS
who had a pr arm. There were forty different agencies
who were doing this and doing that.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
You're right to get rid of those people. It's a
bloated federal government.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Is something we all have known, and we on April
fifteen say, oh, well, you know, it's just the way
it is.
Speaker 7 (20:11):
Screw that.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Why does this is one of the things these guys
are doing. Maybe they aren't doing it the right way,
but they're doing it. And Michael, take it from there.
Speaker 6 (20:20):
They're not doing it the right way, then they're doing
it the wrong way. And if they're doing it because
they have an opportunity to do it, because everybody knows,
as you said, that there's waste and fraud and abuse,
and they're using that as an excuse as a power grab,
and they're hurt for people and are in fact doing damage,
then I can't salute that at all.
Speaker 7 (20:39):
I look at it. It's just opportunism. So to me,
the jury is still out on that.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
I think you're right, yeah, right, okay.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
So and now here's the Trump administration to get.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
To what we were all. It's all circular.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
You know what is all of this stuff with the
exception of Belichick, it's all about Trump in a manner
of speaking, which most of these trucks have been since.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
He became a president.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
I noticed he said this week that it's quote.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Can and will be able.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
We will the government will take the wages, the pensions,
and tax refunds of indebted borrowers starting next week. That
is the student loan people, that sort of thing. People
are not paying their bills are going to you know,
the average person who's been to college is thirty five
thousand dollars in debt. I know lots of them that
(21:28):
can't pay it back. So what you know, is this
the way to do it? Back to what you just said,
this may not be the right way to do it.
In fact, it probably isn't the way to do it.
But listen, it's an approach so that everybody knows how
much money we have given to people over the years,
and if you make an attempt to pay it back,
that's swell, even if you can't pay it all back.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
But just ignore it.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
I think there's something to be said to keep, to
shine the light on that.
Speaker 7 (21:55):
What do you think, Michael, I think we got to keep.
We got we got to play by the rules. But
we also have.
Speaker 6 (22:00):
To be effective in what we do that affects people's
lives and results in results. The results have to be good.
We can't cut off our noses despite our face on
some kind of a politically based principle. So it's complicated,
and I don't think there's necessarily a lot of honesty
(22:21):
going on in terms of the motivation behind some of
these cuts. Everybody knows the government has bloated, but the
answer to fixing it is not easy. You know, it's
not easy, and it.
Speaker 7 (22:32):
Can do damage.
Speaker 6 (22:34):
Yeah, and it seems to me a lot of this
is just putting on a show and grabbing power as
opposed to necessarily getting down to the long term, arduous
work that it takes to reverse.
Speaker 7 (22:49):
A problem that has been building for decades.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Yep, right about that.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
So before we leave, mister Tesla, we leave elon Musk
for the first time this week a Tesla truck. If
you've ever been to the Peterson Auto Museum the corner
of Wiltshire and Lebray, I think it is a Fairfax
in Los Angeles. There are all kinds of great things
(23:16):
to see the history of cars and trucks in America,
But the biggest sponsor there is Tesla.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
And there's a whole.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Floor devoted to Tesla products, including the first driverless semi truck.
And this week in Los Angeles, the first driverless semi
truck started running regular long haul routes from Los Angeles
to Las Vegas. No driver in the truck. How would
you like to see that?
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Coming to it?
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Jah now has made it's interesting the way go. You know,
the cars that have no drivers in them, they're all
over La County. But this is a truck with a
fifty three foot box on the back of it, and
there's inside video showing the truck driving down the highway
with no driver none zero.
Speaker 6 (24:02):
Well, I mean that's that can kill two birds with
one stone. They say that when the when the teriffs
take effect and the port of Los Angeles, which is
the busiest entry point for products from China, suddenly slows down,
one of the first casualties of that is going to
be loss of jobs for truck drivers. So that's all
(24:22):
the problem now now now they now they're going to
lose their jobs either way, whether there's a problem with
the economy and the supply chain or Elon Musk's new
driverless trucks.
Speaker 7 (24:33):
Will take away jobs.
Speaker 6 (24:35):
I'm being clever here, but the fact of the matter
is it doesn't bode well one way or the other
for the truck driving business.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
No, and America's moves America's needs moves by truck Remember
that slogan trucking business.
Speaker 6 (24:50):
The trucking business is one of the major backbones, if
you will, of our economy.
Speaker 7 (24:56):
Truckers. Truckers are important.
Speaker 6 (25:00):
First of it's a very difficult business to be in.
It takes a tremendous sacrifice of comfort and lifestyle, and
it's a cultural thing, and you know, we often don't
appreciate it. So anything having to do with truckers I'm
interested in because they're good people, they do a service
that's necessary. They're very, very connected to the economy, and
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they're being assaulted now on two levels, technology and economics.
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Speaker 2 (27:45):
Number two on the people list.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
And number two on our story list has to do
with the tariffs in the trade war in China and
my good friend Gee Zing Ping. There have been overtures
apparently this week Michael, from various trade representatives representing our
country talking to various trade representatives in China. They've gone
to China and they're assessing quote unquote possible tariff talks
(28:11):
this weekend as we're speaking. So is there something to
the fact people say, Well, Trump says all these things
and starts all this stuff, but he gets results because
people come to the table. I don't know whether he
said what is he fifty deals have been made already
or ninety or something. I don't know if that's true
or not. I don't see any proof of it.
Speaker 6 (28:28):
But they said ninety deals in ninety days and right
now I think there have been zero deals in ninety days.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Oh well, okay, well let's go.
Speaker 7 (28:37):
The Chinese say they haven't spoken at all.
Speaker 6 (28:40):
And the biggest problem, the biggest problem with tariff says
that nobody is talking about tariff's Honestly, either Trump doesn't
know what a tariff is or Trump has been lying
to the American public about it. Because a tariff is
a certain thing, it operates a certain way. And when
tariff says, when Trump says things like we've taken in
billions of dollars on the tariffs, taking the money in
(29:01):
from where we pay the tariffs, so we're only hurting
our own companies and hurting our own consumers. And yet
and yet, so when when when Trump says we're taking
in money, we're not taking in money. We're charging our
own companies, which raise the prices. There's not even a
question about it. The conversation is a fraudulent conversation. And
(29:21):
the media, let's applide or people talk about it like
I'm talking about it.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
The news media knows what it's what they're really all
about either.
Speaker 7 (29:28):
Right, A lot of the people don't.
Speaker 6 (29:30):
Some of them do, and they and they, and this
pushback but there's not enough pushback because it's it's it's
not true. We haven't taken in any money from outside
countries on the teriffs. We're taking in money from our
own countries. Well, that doesn't make any sense, does it?
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Doesn't it?
Speaker 6 (29:49):
The purpose of tariffs is to is to dissuade Americans
from buying foreign products.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
But if you like newsmags, you're gonna and then most
of the other are one sideed network. So I listen
to the talk radio programs. It's all great. He's doing
what we need to have done, and he's an argument
for that. I guess much anything else, all right, Michael,
A great conversation as usual. They don't need me to
say that. It feels good how we have conducted ourselves
as usual here on the Talk Radio Countdown Show. Up
(30:18):
next Stephen JJ Wiseman for an overview of some of
the legal ramifications of some of these stories. This week,
as the countdown continues, the Top.
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The Talk Radio Countdown show continues.
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Speaker 1 (31:00):
I'm Doug Stephan Stephen JJ Wiseman, is here the official
attorney for or not that we need a lawyer? Sometimes
I stick my foot in my mouth and call on
Steve save me for myself. I wonder if the president,
the president has a lawyer to save him from himself, right,
or maybe he doesn't.
Speaker 8 (31:16):
He still a barrageal lawyers.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
The non Trump issue this week is the age old
discussion of an old guy with a young girl and
whether there are just just for the heck of it,
with the Jordan Hudson and Bill Belichick as the reference,
how often as a lawyer you've been involved in domestic
stuff for a long time, among many other parts of
(31:40):
the law you practiced, How often do these things turn
out okay?
Speaker 8 (31:44):
Or not? Not too often? I mean, you know, once
in a while the relationship will last. But you know,
in the firm I used to be at, we had
one guy that specialized in divorces, and I wish if
he had a penny for every one of those. Well,
that's not his hourly rate. He made a lot of
(32:06):
money off of these. They generally aren't something that's going
to last. And I would like to know in the
situation you're talking about Jordan Hudson, this is not a
This is not a marriage. And actually the previous woman
he was with for many years was also not a marriage.
And did they have a living together agreement? Because this
(32:28):
is something gosh, you can you can go way back.
You remember Lee Marvin and the first time calimony. Could
someone living with someone have the right to claim benefits?
And the courts said yes. So anyone who is just
living with someone else, particular in an intimate fashion like that,
(32:48):
who doesn't have an agreement like this is really facing
some significant legal jeopardy. So I got a feeling he doesn't,
he didn't before, and this is Yeah, it's not that often,
so we'll see what comes out of this.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
All right, Let's talk about some of the other things
in here, namely.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Number eight this week Trump versus Harvard.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
I don't know if you've ever met my daughter or not,
but she knows of you, she knows how the countdown
is excuse me constructed, and knows that you and I
have been friends for years, and she knows you're a
college professor, and you have that come with her. So
with regard to my daughter, who has happily told me
that my alma mater, which is Heidelberg University in Ohio,
(33:31):
is on a list of one hundred and fifty plus
schools that have signed on to speak sternly and carry
a big stick when it comes to Trump and the
whole business about all of.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
The grants, etc. Etc.
Speaker 7 (33:45):
Etc.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
However, there are some things, and I would curious to
know from your perspective, there's some legitimacy here to some
of the claims and some of the concerns. Not necessarily
that's why Trump is doing it, But there are some
things that seem to be a little wonky here.
Speaker 8 (34:01):
Yes, you know, there's no question that I remember when
I first became a professor, I had this image of
the lofty ivory towers and there wouldn't be the politics
and the influences there, And that's not necessarily so, although
I must admit the university I teach at Bentley is
(34:23):
pretty good in that regard. So every institution needs some
kind of changes. But you know, part of the problem,
and you and I've talked about this before, you know,
the government is bloated. It does need some kind of
limitation and the bureaucracy and needs to be dealt with.
But doing it with a when your hammer is your
(34:45):
only tool, you ever think everything is a nail. And
he's doing more harm than good. And I think that's
really the same thing with colleges and universities. The manner
in which he is in a draconian fashion, threatening the
independence of these instantutions is frightening to me. The same
thing with his recognition is failure to recognize the checks
(35:06):
and balances in government, such as with the courts. So, yeah,
the you know, our universities, definitely, the kids are paying
too much money, the tuition. There are things that need reform.
But the manner in which he's doing is causing much
more harm than good.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Right, And is that Can we say the same quickly
about the trade and tariff stuff?
Speaker 7 (35:28):
Oh?
Speaker 8 (35:28):
Absolutely, you know, although that one I think is pretty
much he just doesn't understand economics, and the economy was
doing fine with the tariffs. But the fact that we
are bringing in more goods and therefore you know, paying
more has to do with the fact that we are
the biggest consumer nation in the world, and that actually
shows a good economy, although Elon Musk says China is
(35:52):
more of a consumer than us with the tariffs. I
won't cut them the slack on that one.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
All right, Stephen JJ Wiseman here with slack or not.
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Counting Down what America is talking about? Welcome to the
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week by the folks at Talkers magazine. You can find
the list at talkers dot com. Michael Harrison is here.
He's the editor and publisher of a Talker's magazine to
go through the hall of fame for this week of
people who have made it to the top of conversation
and the stories as well from again the perspective of
(02:05):
those people who kind of know the inside track of
what's going on on these stations. So, Michael, I'm happy
to have you here. As usual, it's a yeoman's job
to get the research done. Not so much a yeoman's
job for you and I dyac on the radio for
an hour, but it serves its purpose.
Speaker 6 (02:22):
We stand on the shoulders of giants, say, sweet, yes
we do, Bob K.
Speaker 7 (02:28):
That's right.
Speaker 6 (02:29):
And some of this is all of fame and some
of it is all of shame. At number two, we
have a little bit of sports and scandal and a
soap opera Belichick, the Belichick girlfriend flap at number ten.
Speaker 7 (02:45):
At number nine, we have Kamala And.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
This is also you didn't hear the story that Joe
Biden now has a new girlfriend named Kamala Harris.
Speaker 6 (02:54):
Wow, there was there something going on between I knew it.
I knew he slept his way to the presidency.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Yes to the top right, it's okay, all right, anything
that was actually clever.
Speaker 6 (03:10):
At number eight, Trump versus Harvard at number seven. Deportations
tied with the Abrego Garcia case at number six, the
Canadian elections at number five, all about doze musk.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Bye, bye see you later, Adie Yosla.
Speaker 6 (03:27):
Russia, Ukraine, the Russia Ukraine War occupies number four. At
number three, the US Ukraine Minerals Deal. At number two,
we have tariffs, the US China trade war and the economy.
And at number one, everybody was buzzing about, you know,
the artificial holiday, Trump's first one hundred days and polling
numbers that became a big mcgilla.
Speaker 7 (03:49):
On the people survey.
Speaker 6 (03:50):
We have the tie between Bill Belichick and his girlfriend,
the aforementioned Jordan Hudson, the yoko Ono of sports. No, actually,
the Yokowono of defenses had SEG's wife right.
Speaker 7 (04:08):
At number eight.
Speaker 6 (04:09):
We have Kilmore Abrego Garcia, Mark Karney at number seven,
jd Vance at number six, Elon Musk at five, Vladimir
Putin at four, Vladimir Zelenski there's a different pronunciation's Vladimir
Putin and Vladmir Zelenski he's three. Xi jen Ping, a
(04:29):
man that Donald Trump is very friendly with and likes
very much, is at number two. And yeah, he always
has to point that out, which annoys the hell out
of me. Number yeah like like like international relations are
based upon people he likes, uh, and Donald Trump is
number one, and those are the people and those are
the stories.
Speaker 7 (04:49):
And this is another.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Yeah, in essence, the to listen to him it is
this past week, well, I don't think it was the
first time it was said, but I heard it said
many times. I and the ruler of America and the world.
Speaker 7 (05:03):
I run the world, and I run the world. Yep.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
And you know what, there's a little something to do
that at least, as it turns out right now, lots
of protesting. Protect your turf there, boys and girls. Okay,
So that's the list, or those are the lists again.
You can see them if you will every week at
talkers dot com. You can also listen to the Talk
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(05:28):
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Speaker 2 (05:43):
That's how that works. Okay, So let's get.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
The I guess foolishness out of the way.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
First.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Bill Belichick won't talk because his girlfriend Jordan Hudson won't
let him talk about how they met.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Supposedly she was I think she was a cheer leader
or something.
Speaker 7 (06:00):
Doesn't she had.
Speaker 6 (06:01):
I don't think I heard that, well, she's very young.
He's old enough to be my grandfather. You know, the
issue is specific to Belichick and what his personality is like.
And then there's the old issue of older, older, wealthy
men attracting the attention and.
Speaker 7 (06:19):
The company of young beautiful women.
Speaker 6 (06:23):
And and and that's that's always a buzz his his
former boss Robert Kraft went through that as well. And
you know, it's a common thing, and it's and it's
always it's it's an interesting discussion. Do do older men
who have girlfriends that are young enough to be either
daughter or in some cases their granddaughter.
Speaker 7 (06:41):
Are they making fools of.
Speaker 6 (06:42):
Themselves or are they the subject of envy that their
critics really wish they had girlfriends like that too.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
You know, sorry, is it nobody's business but theirs?
Speaker 6 (06:51):
Well, but the thing is, when you're a celebrity, everybody's business.
I mean, I mean, none of this is anybody's business,
but it's everybody don't want to be celebrity.
Speaker 7 (07:02):
It seems, we don't we don't know, we don't know.
Speaker 6 (07:04):
Now, she's been accused some people of elder abuse that
she has some kind of a hold over him because
in a recent interview with CBS network. She was on
the sidelines, approving of questions and stopping them, and she
ran out of the room in a huff. I mean,
she's like, it's not just an annoyance, it's it's like,
what the hell's with this woman? And and why is
(07:27):
Bill Belichick succumbing to her influence?
Speaker 7 (07:30):
Well maybe we know why, maybe we don't.
Speaker 6 (07:32):
So it's kind of an interesting sociological story because you know,
is is it embarrassing? Is it something that a man should,
you know, be self conscious of if he has a
girlfriend young enough to be his granddaughter, because you know,
would she be his would she be his girlfriend if
he were just you know, the guy that sold peanuts
(07:53):
at the.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Because you're married. But me, yeah, she didn't. She didn't.
There isn't one thing about her that I find appealing.
Speaker 7 (08:02):
Not let me ask you a question.
Speaker 6 (08:05):
You're relatively a single person.
Speaker 7 (08:08):
I don't know your personal life.
Speaker 6 (08:09):
You might have relatively I am very much okay, okay,
And you are, you know, in the same generation as
Bill Belichick. Would you be comfortable having a girlfriend, a companion,
a female companion, a significant other young enough to be
your granddaughter?
Speaker 7 (08:27):
Would you find.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Daughter Megan an Stephan doctor of all kinds of things
and professor at UCLA would have me hanging by my
thumbs if there was anybody that was hanging around with
me that was even close.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
To her age.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
So the answer to that question is, I think the
largest difference may have been the last relationship I had
that was over seven eight years ago. There was fifteen
years differ between the lady and me and another woman
that I loved and loved and loved and loved. I
think it was she was my assistant at the radio
station in Boston. It was twenty if she was thirteen
(09:07):
years younger, I think. And then there was Hillary. You know,
it's always been sort of a teen thing, except my wife,
whom I probably loved. Really, when I get down to
brass tax here, as long as we're this is true stories,
they probably loved empoyman, I loved any of the rest
of them, But no, they I have more likely. And
(09:28):
the reason that younger women were attracted to me and
me to them, I didn't have anything to do with age.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
It had to do with and it is in virility
so much.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
It was that I keep moving that you can't keep
up with me. And even at this age. Most people
who are not at my age but younger don't keep
up with me. And that's kind of what you know,
you guys live up or what's going on.
Speaker 6 (09:52):
There's other First of all, I bet you're right now
we have piqued the interest of our listeners just by
talking about this subject more than the average subject we
talk about. I think people are really interested in this topic,
and so it's a great opportunity to just touch and
explore it for a moment because it is on the
chart and it is legitimate. People are talking about Belichick
and Hudson. But the one issue is that it's not
(10:16):
fair that a man in his sixties, seventies or eighties
has more life experience and can take advantage of a
young woman who has yet to learn certain things about life.
So there's an unfair advantage in general. The other one
is is that what have you got to talk about?
You don't have common.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
History, you don't have nothing exactly right.
Speaker 6 (10:35):
You know, she doesn't know the movies, the stars, the Beatles, the.
Speaker 7 (10:41):
History, and she does know the song.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
If you want to be happy for the rest of
your life, never make a pretty woman your wife.
Speaker 6 (10:49):
That's exactly all those subtle things that go into a relationship,
and there's more just the aesthetics of it. But I
don't know, it's an interesting costing.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
I'm thinking about your.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Wife at the moment.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
I'm thinking about you and your what I know about
your life and your family, it's quite different than what
I have experienced because your family has been what others
would refer to as very stable. And so your first
wife was someone I was extraordinarily very fond of, and
she passed away, and then you married the lady who
(11:32):
has been kind of, in a manner of speaking, someone
who we've all known in the talk.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Radio business for as long as we've been at it.
Speaker 7 (11:41):
I knew years as a friend.
Speaker 6 (11:42):
I knew her in the same I never thought I
would be married to her, but it was either I wasn't.
Speaker 7 (11:49):
It wasn't a stranger.
Speaker 6 (11:50):
I married for almost sixteen years, was married to my
first wife for thirty six years.
Speaker 7 (11:57):
And so yeah, I would say I.
Speaker 6 (11:58):
Would say that I'm kind of a a stable guy
in that regard.
Speaker 7 (12:02):
I'm not holier than now. I don't.
Speaker 6 (12:03):
I'm not judging people, but I do find that Build
Belichick and Robert Kraft and any of these, uh, geezers
that suddenly show up with young women. And in this
case with Belichick, I mean, he's a billy and she's and.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
She's like, she's in she's a she's just I'm very
good when it comes to energy. For as many years
evy on the ear, I can tell body language and
listening to people. This woman is nothing other than a
hang around her And and I think there's probably the
fact that it is you know, say what you about Belichick.
(12:40):
He's a great football guy. Okay, So that's why do
you have to be great at everything? You can be
great at one thing, and that's what he's great at, so.
Speaker 7 (12:48):
And best that everything else.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Well, listen, God love him if he's having fun and
it's nobody else's business. And but everybody wants to talk
about it because if frankly, we're all tired of talking
about Trump as much as we have been, so it's
nice to have something else that's a distraction if nothing else.
But nothing has beaten Trump and his first one hundred
days and being everywhere, whether it was on ABC telling
(13:16):
Terry I forget his last name matter, I knew who
he was. But Trump says, I chose you because I
don't know who you were, and you know, you're really awful,
and ABC is the worst. How you know, that's just
people laugh about it and it is kind of laughable,
but it tells you the guy is so angry he
thinks that's the appropriate way.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
And it works because if everybody watched the.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Thing and then there was the News Nation town Hall.
I don't know if you saw that or not. Michael
is one of the best pieces of television I have
seen for a long, long long time.
Speaker 6 (13:50):
And I've been talking about Carnival of Personalities.
Speaker 7 (13:54):
It was great to.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
With Stephen A.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Smith and Carville.
Speaker 7 (14:04):
I couldn't remember his name.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Oh my god.
Speaker 7 (14:08):
Car somewhat clown like character that he is, kind of Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
But his advice was good. It's the economy stupid. He
get Bill Clinton elected man well and.
Speaker 6 (14:19):
He also he also went out on a limit and
said there's no question that Kamala Harris is going to
win and Trump was going to lose. And then all
you know, these these pundits, they are shameless. When they're wrong,
they just forget about it. They go forward. They nobody
holds them accountable for whether they're right or wrong. And
and when they're right, Okay, they're right, but when they're wrong, I'm.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Going to hold him Other than the elector who's going
to hold him are responsible?
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Whose job is it to hold these guys responsible?
Speaker 6 (14:46):
I would think the people that carry them on their platforms,
the people that book them on the shows. I mean,
if a guy spends the entire election telling everybody every
time he's booked on a show, in every podcast that
he does that there is absolutely no doubt out that
Kamala Harris is going to beat Donald Trump, and and
she doesn't, don't you think that people should think twice
(15:07):
about having him back as an expert.
Speaker 7 (15:10):
I mean that's all I mean.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
You know, you know you could say that for half
three quarters of the people. I could say that would
been Shapiro, and you could say it about maybe even
Joe Rogan.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Some of these podcasters that were radio people.
Speaker 6 (15:23):
You can, you can, and you should that they should
be held. I'm not saying they should be it should
be illegal for them to do what they're doing. I'm
off a free speech and variety. I'm just simply saying
that accountability goes in many directions. I don't necessarily agree
with you that talking about Kamala Harris is vapid.
Speaker 7 (15:41):
I think that.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
No, I didn't say that was vad. I said she's vapid.
If I didn't say to make that clear.
Speaker 7 (15:46):
Of course, of course, that of course is your is
your opinion.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
It is absolutely my opinion.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
And I could be wrong, just like James Carbo was wrong,
and it wouldn't be the first time in.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
My life on the air.
Speaker 7 (15:57):
No, No, there's a difference. There's a difference.
Speaker 6 (15:59):
There's a difference being wrong in a description of your
opinion of somebody and being wrong in your bold prediction
of what is going to happen.
Speaker 7 (16:07):
Those are two very different things. You never eat.
Speaker 6 (16:10):
No one could prove you're wrong that she's vapid or
she's a genius.
Speaker 7 (16:14):
That's an opinion.
Speaker 6 (16:15):
But diicting something and having it be wrong, that's a
different realm.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
In terms of how predict my prediction is Kamala Harris
runs for governor of California. I don't know how much
very crystal ball I need for that. Okay, we continue.
It's the halfway mark this week already in the talk
radio Countdown show, The.
Speaker 5 (16:32):
Talk Radio Countdown.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
Counting down what America is talking about? Welcome to the
Talk radio countdown show.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
All across America talk radio and the Voices of Freedom don't.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Stop talking the hour.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
This is the talk for Radio Cowtown Show. I'm Bet
Stephan along with Michael Harrison, the editor of a Talker's magazine.
But the good stories and the good People. I didn't
say it was a good people list. I didn't say
that people on the list of matter of fact, most
of them aren't.
Speaker 7 (17:17):
The good list of bad people.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Yes, there you go, bing bang boom.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
All right, so let's see here.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Jd Vance as usual this week is stuck his foot
in his mouth.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Elon Musk.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Looks like they're having a like a birthday party this
weekend for him, right because he's leaving, having a big
party for him.
Speaker 7 (17:36):
Is that I think that's this weekend and I guess
he's leaving. It seems to be the case.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Right exactly, so he can do whatever it is that
he wants to do. He's done, he has, you know
what he's done.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
That's good. A lot of things.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Actually, he's called attention to a lot of the stuff
that is all about the cris. I can remember every
year at April fifteenth, when I would say, do you
realize you folks listening how much fraud and corruption and
abuse you're paying for when you sign that check to
go to the irs. How much of that is going
(18:11):
into the toilet. You might as well be flushing it
down the toilet.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
And he said, well, what do you know? Well, how
would you get that information? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Hello, look around.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
That was one of the things.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
It may have been a little clumsy the way that
they've done it in terms of eliminating people and jobs
and descriptions, and that one of the things that came
out of the meeting of the thing when Dou's Nation
the other night. I have much greater respect for Cuomo
because he's been able to parley his sort of disaster
(18:43):
at CNN into success. Because the guy has great experience,
his great sensibilities to stuff. He's really a good he's
very much a great facilitator, I think. And so he
was talking about with the two or three of the people,
and I think Stephen A.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Smith jumped in on this.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Here's a guy that came from nowhere, right, look at
this guy.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
He's everywhere.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Last year at this time, people say, other than sports people,
who's Stephen A.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Smith? I never heard of this guy?
Speaker 1 (19:12):
So he I think if I'm remembering correctly pointed out
how many different, dozens of agencies are doing the same
thing at the Department of Defense, for example, Oh no,
you know who did it.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
It was RFK was on that thing. Robert F.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Kennedy Junior was on the DAIS on that show, and
he talked about the duplicity at the Health and Human
Services Department and why he was asked by one of
the members of the panel why he's getting rid of
all these people, and aren't you worried that people will
get sick because we're not doing research? And he looked
very he's very serious all the time. He doesn't show
a sense of humor, but this is serious stuff. And
(19:49):
he said, there were forty different agencies within the AHHS
who had a pr arm. There were forty different agencies
who were doing this and doing that.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
You're right to get rid of those people. It's a
bloated federal government.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Is something we all have known, and we on April
fifteen say, oh, well, you know, it's just the way
it is.
Speaker 7 (20:11):
Screw that.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Why does this is one of the things these guys
are doing. Maybe they aren't doing it the right way,
but they're doing it. And Michael, take it from there.
Speaker 6 (20:20):
They're not doing it the right way, then they're doing
it the wrong way. And if they're doing it because
they have an opportunity to do it, because everybody knows,
as you said, that there's waste and fraud and abuse,
and they're using that as an excuse as a power grab,
and they're hurt for people and are in fact doing damage,
then I can't salute that at all.
Speaker 7 (20:39):
I look at it. It's just opportunism. So to me,
the jury is still out on that.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
I think you're right, yeah, right, okay.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
So and now here's the Trump administration to get.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
To what we were all. It's all circular.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
You know what is all of this stuff with the
exception of Belichick, it's all about Trump in a manner
of speaking, which most of these trucks have been since.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
He became a president.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
I noticed he said this week that it's quote.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Can and will be able.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
We will the government will take the wages, the pensions,
and tax refunds of indebted borrowers starting next week. That
is the student loan people, that sort of thing. People
are not paying their bills are going to you know,
the average person who's been to college is thirty five
thousand dollars in debt. I know lots of them that
(21:28):
can't pay it back. So what you know, is this
the way to do it? Back to what you just said,
this may not be the right way to do it.
In fact, it probably isn't the way to do it.
But listen, it's an approach so that everybody knows how
much money we have given to people over the years,
and if you make an attempt to pay it back,
that's swell, even if you can't pay it all back.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
But just ignore it.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
I think there's something to be said to keep, to
shine the light on that.
Speaker 7 (21:55):
What do you think, Michael, I think we got to keep.
We got we got to play by the rules. But
we also have.
Speaker 6 (22:00):
To be effective in what we do that affects people's
lives and results in results. The results have to be good.
We can't cut off our noses despite our face on
some kind of a politically based principle. So it's complicated,
and I don't think there's necessarily a lot of honesty
(22:21):
going on in terms of the motivation behind some of
these cuts. Everybody knows the government has bloated, but the
answer to fixing it is not easy. You know, it's
not easy, and it.
Speaker 7 (22:32):
Can do damage.
Speaker 6 (22:34):
Yeah, and it seems to me a lot of this
is just putting on a show and grabbing power as
opposed to necessarily getting down to the long term, arduous
work that it takes to reverse.
Speaker 7 (22:49):
A problem that has been building for decades.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Yep, right about that.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
So before we leave, mister Tesla, we leave elon Musk
for the first time this week a Tesla truck. If
you've ever been to the Peterson Auto Museum the corner
of Wiltshire and Lebray, I think it is a Fairfax
in Los Angeles. There are all kinds of great things
(23:16):
to see the history of cars and trucks in America,
But the biggest sponsor there is Tesla.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
And there's a whole.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Floor devoted to Tesla products, including the first driverless semi truck.
And this week in Los Angeles, the first driverless semi
truck started running regular long haul routes from Los Angeles
to Las Vegas. No driver in the truck. How would
you like to see that?
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Coming to it?
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Jah now has made it's interesting the way go. You know,
the cars that have no drivers in them, they're all
over La County. But this is a truck with a
fifty three foot box on the back of it, and
there's inside video showing the truck driving down the highway
with no driver none zero.
Speaker 6 (24:02):
Well, I mean that's that can kill two birds with
one stone. They say that when the when the teriffs
take effect and the port of Los Angeles, which is
the busiest entry point for products from China, suddenly slows down,
one of the first casualties of that is going to
be loss of jobs for truck drivers. So that's all
(24:22):
the problem now now now they now they're going to
lose their jobs either way, whether there's a problem with
the economy and the supply chain or Elon Musk's new
driverless trucks.
Speaker 7 (24:33):
Will take away jobs.
Speaker 6 (24:35):
I'm being clever here, but the fact of the matter
is it doesn't bode well one way or the other
for the truck driving business.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
No, and America's moves America's needs moves by truck Remember
that slogan trucking business.
Speaker 6 (24:50):
The trucking business is one of the major backbones, if
you will, of our economy.
Speaker 7 (24:56):
Truckers. Truckers are important.
Speaker 6 (25:00):
First of it's a very difficult business to be in.
It takes a tremendous sacrifice of comfort and lifestyle, and
it's a cultural thing, and you know, we often don't
appreciate it. So anything having to do with truckers I'm
interested in because they're good people, they do a service
that's necessary. They're very, very connected to the economy, and
(25:25):
they're being assaulted now on two levels, technology and economics.
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Speaker 2 (27:45):
Number two on the people list.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
And number two on our story list has to do
with the tariffs in the trade war in China and
my good friend Gee Zing Ping. There have been overtures
apparently this week Michael, from various trade representatives representing our
country talking to various trade representatives in China. They've gone
to China and they're assessing quote unquote possible tariff talks
(28:11):
this weekend as we're speaking. So is there something to
the fact people say, Well, Trump says all these things
and starts all this stuff, but he gets results because
people come to the table. I don't know whether he
said what is he fifty deals have been made already
or ninety or something. I don't know if that's true
or not. I don't see any proof of it.
Speaker 6 (28:28):
But they said ninety deals in ninety days and right
now I think there have been zero deals in ninety days.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Oh well, okay, well let's go.
Speaker 7 (28:37):
The Chinese say they haven't spoken at all.
Speaker 6 (28:40):
And the biggest problem, the biggest problem with tariff says
that nobody is talking about tariff's Honestly, either Trump doesn't
know what a tariff is or Trump has been lying
to the American public about it. Because a tariff is
a certain thing, it operates a certain way. And when
tariff says, when Trump says things like we've taken in
billions of dollars on the tariffs, taking the money in
(29:01):
from where we pay the tariffs, so we're only hurting
our own companies and hurting our own consumers. And yet
and yet, so when when when Trump says we're taking
in money, we're not taking in money. We're charging our
own companies, which raise the prices. There's not even a
question about it. The conversation is a fraudulent conversation. And
(29:21):
the media, let's applide or people talk about it like
I'm talking about it.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
The news media knows what it's what they're really all
about either.
Speaker 7 (29:28):
Right, A lot of the people don't.
Speaker 6 (29:30):
Some of them do, and they and they, and this
pushback but there's not enough pushback because it's it's it's
not true. We haven't taken in any money from outside
countries on the teriffs. We're taking in money from our
own countries. Well, that doesn't make any sense, does it?
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Doesn't it?
Speaker 6 (29:49):
The purpose of tariffs is to is to dissuade Americans
from buying foreign products.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
But if you like newsmags, you're gonna and then most
of the other are one sideed network. So I listen
to the talk radio programs. It's all great. He's doing
what we need to have done, and he's an argument
for that. I guess much anything else, all right, Michael,
A great conversation as usual. They don't need me to
say that. It feels good how we have conducted ourselves
as usual here on the Talk Radio Countdown Show. Up
(30:18):
next Stephen JJ Wiseman for an overview of some of
the legal ramifications of some of these stories. This week,
as the countdown continues, the Top.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
Radio Countdown, we're counting down what America is talking about.
The Talk Radio Countdown show continues.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
The Top Radio Countdown, So it does on great radio
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Speaker 2 (30:59):
Talk radio Outdown Show.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
I'm Doug Stephan Stephen JJ Wiseman, is here the official
attorney for or not that we need a lawyer? Sometimes
I stick my foot in my mouth and call on
Steve save me for myself. I wonder if the president,
the president has a lawyer to save him from himself, right,
or maybe he doesn't.
Speaker 8 (31:16):
He still a barrageal lawyers.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
The non Trump issue this week is the age old
discussion of an old guy with a young girl and
whether there are just just for the heck of it,
with the Jordan Hudson and Bill Belichick as the reference,
how often as a lawyer you've been involved in domestic
stuff for a long time, among many other parts of
(31:40):
the law you practiced, How often do these things turn
out okay?
Speaker 8 (31:44):
Or not? Not too often? I mean, you know, once
in a while the relationship will last. But you know,
in the firm I used to be at, we had
one guy that specialized in divorces, and I wish if
he had a penny for every one of those. Well,
that's not his hourly rate. He made a lot of
(32:06):
money off of these. They generally aren't something that's going
to last. And I would like to know in the
situation you're talking about Jordan Hudson, this is not a
This is not a marriage. And actually the previous woman
he was with for many years was also not a marriage.
And did they have a living together agreement? Because this
(32:28):
is something gosh, you can you can go way back.
You remember Lee Marvin and the first time calimony. Could
someone living with someone have the right to claim benefits?
And the courts said yes. So anyone who is just
living with someone else, particular in an intimate fashion like that,
(32:48):
who doesn't have an agreement like this is really facing
some significant legal jeopardy. So I got a feeling he doesn't,
he didn't before, and this is Yeah, it's not that often,
so we'll see what comes out of this.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
All right, Let's talk about some of the other things
in here, namely.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Number eight this week Trump versus Harvard.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
I don't know if you've ever met my daughter or not,
but she knows of you, she knows how the countdown
is excuse me constructed, and knows that you and I
have been friends for years, and she knows you're a
college professor, and you have that come with her. So
with regard to my daughter, who has happily told me
that my alma mater, which is Heidelberg University in Ohio,
(33:31):
is on a list of one hundred and fifty plus
schools that have signed on to speak sternly and carry
a big stick when it comes to Trump and the
whole business about all of.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
The grants, etc. Etc.
Speaker 7 (33:45):
Etc.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
However, there are some things, and I would curious to
know from your perspective, there's some legitimacy here to some
of the claims and some of the concerns. Not necessarily
that's why Trump is doing it, But there are some
things that seem to be a little wonky here.
Speaker 8 (34:01):
Yes, you know, there's no question that I remember when
I first became a professor, I had this image of
the lofty ivory towers and there wouldn't be the politics
and the influences there, And that's not necessarily so, although
I must admit the university I teach at Bentley is
(34:23):
pretty good in that regard. So every institution needs some
kind of changes. But you know, part of the problem,
and you and I've talked about this before, you know,
the government is bloated. It does need some kind of
limitation and the bureaucracy and needs to be dealt with.
But doing it with a when your hammer is your
(34:45):
only tool, you ever think everything is a nail. And
he's doing more harm than good. And I think that's
really the same thing with colleges and universities. The manner
in which he is in a draconian fashion, threatening the
independence of these instantutions is frightening to me. The same
thing with his recognition is failure to recognize the checks
(35:06):
and balances in government, such as with the courts. So, yeah,
the you know, our universities, definitely, the kids are paying
too much money, the tuition. There are things that need reform.
But the manner in which he's doing is causing much
more harm than good.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Right, And is that Can we say the same quickly
about the trade and tariff stuff?
Speaker 7 (35:28):
Oh?
Speaker 8 (35:28):
Absolutely, you know, although that one I think is pretty
much he just doesn't understand economics, and the economy was
doing fine with the tariffs. But the fact that we
are bringing in more goods and therefore you know, paying
more has to do with the fact that we are
the biggest consumer nation in the world, and that actually
shows a good economy, although Elon Musk says China is
(35:52):
more of a consumer than us with the tariffs. I
won't cut them the slack on that one.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
All right, Stephen JJ Wiseman here with slack or not.
That's the overview. What's going on in the world. The news,
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