June 13, 2025 • 37 mins
6/14/25 - The LA Protests And Trump Calls In The Military Share #1 This Week
Host Doug Stephan along with Michael Harrison, Editor/Publisher of Talkers Magazine, review the most talked about stories and people on news/talk radio for the week of June 9th, 2025 through June 13th, 2025. Compiled by the research department at Talkers Magazine - The Bible of Talk Radio and the New Talk Media - www.talkers.com
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Host Doug Stephan along with Michael Harrison, Editor/Publisher of Talkers Magazine, review the most talked about stories and people on news/talk radio for the week of June 9th, 2025 through June 13th, 2025. Compiled by the research department at Talkers Magazine - The Bible of Talk Radio and the New Talk Media - www.talkers.com
STORIES
- LA Protests / Trump Calls in Military
- Big, Beautiful Bill / Trump Musk Feud
- U.S.-Iran Tensions / Middle East Diplomats Recalled
- U.S.-China Trade Negotiations / Tariffs
- Saturday’s Military Parade
- Russia-Ukraine War
- FEMA Phaseout / RFK Jr Fires CDC Vaccine Panel
- Israel-Gaza Unrest / Greta Thunberg Deported
- Brian Wilson Dies
- Air India Crash
- Donald Trump
- Gavin Newsom / Karen Bass
- Elon Musk
- Mike Johnson
- Benjamin Netanyahu / Greta Thunberg
- Howard Lutnick
- Xi Jinping
- Vladimir Putin
- RFK Jr.
- Brian Wilson
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And along with the voices of freedom, we have the
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is the talk radio Countdown Show of all the top
big stories, the discussion topics that have made it big
across the country, from sea to Shining Sea, the North,
the southeast, the West. I'm feeling very philosophical. Michael Doug
(01:40):
Stefan with Michael Harrison, who's the editor and publisher of
Talkers Magazine. Here for another week examining the charts, the
research done by the staff and management of Talkers Magazine
so that you will know what's on the top of
the list. And this is not this is a This
is an objective list, not a subjective list. Michael sometimes thinks,
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and so do why that we might put a few
things in a different place, like Brian Wilson dying for me,
that's number one. It's one of those it's just like
it's personal priority. Well, we're not talking about personal priorities,
talking about what's going on on the news talk radio,
biz television and the podcasting and that sort of thing.
So our first job here is to go through the
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charts the top ten people that have been part of
the discussion this week in the mainstay and the stories
as well. So, Michael, if you would please let us begin.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
All right, let's do it.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
Here are the stories and the people that have been
most talked about on news talk radio and it's related
media stations, just like the ones that the folks are
listening to this program on right now. At number ten
we have the Air India crash. At number nine, we
have the aforementioned death of rock legend Brian Wilson. At
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number eight, we have the unrest between Israel and Gaza
and toward the end of the week an attack on Iran,
which is at the time of us going to press
so to speak, with this very very big international story. Huge,
and that's tied with Greta Thunberg being deported from Israel
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for being a Palestinian sympathizer. At number seven, we have
the FEMA phase out, tied with RFK Junior firing the
CDC vaccine panel. At number six, a little skirmish known
as the Russia Ukraine war at number five, Anticipation and
conversation about Saturday's military parade at number four, US China
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trade negotiations and tariffs at number three, US Iran tensions
exacerbated by as I mentioned before, brewing hostilities between Israel
and Iran and Middle East diplomats have been recalled part.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
Of that story. It speaks story huge.
Speaker 5 (04:01):
And at number two we have the Big Beautiful Bill,
tied with the Trump Musk feud which is still being
talked about. And at number one the LA protests and
Trump calls in the military. Those are the big stories.
And again at the time that we're producing this program
at the end of the week, a lot of turmoil,
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a lot of things happening, so it's a sort.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
Of working products as it were.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
At number ten we have Brian Wilson, RFK Junior at nine,
Vladimir Putin at a diseison ping at seven, number six,
Howard Lutnik at number five, Benjamin net and Yahoo tied
with Gretathorn Thunberg, Mike Johnson at number four, Elon Musk
at number three, Gavin Newsom and Karen Bass at number two,
and Donald Trump at number one, And there you go.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Wild. It's crazy week, just absolutely wild.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Oh you can say that almost every week since Trump
has been president in before, but Trump has certainly he
has become a major the major news force, it would seem,
not only here in our country, but around the world.
So I'm going to bring you up to date, and
I'm going to throw cold water on a few things
here that are part of my experience. We are telling stories,
(05:19):
good news talk radio people tell stories. My story begins
with me being in Los Angeles at the moment we're
doing this program and having been here for the past
twenty four plus hours, and I have his Father's Day weekends.
I got to spend Father's Day weekend with my children
as we're doing this program. It is Father's Day. But
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the essence of my thinking at the moment, as we
look at the number one story, the protests in Los Angeles,
I don't know really how to frame this, Michael, because
I am continually critical of the major news forces, and
there is probably no more There hasn't been a time
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in my recent existence when I have been more critical
of the absolute farce that has been produced by and
what people are believing is going on versus what is
going on in Los Angeles. I was in downtown Los
Angeles yesterday. I'm going to downtown Los Angeles today because
i have some work to do and some people to see.
(06:23):
This whole business of the protests is taking place in
about a four block area that is the downtown and
kind of the worst part of Los Angeles to begin with.
If you look carefully at the video that you've been
seeing on the nightly news, you'll see that it's the
same video playing over and over and over again, with
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most of the focus being on the first night. Was
the first night bad? Well, it wasn't good. My children
both live in Los Angeles, and they I trust them
and how close they are to it and what they're watching.
As my son, who's a little more objective than my daughter,
who just doesn't like the circumstances that we find ourselves in.
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Not than anybody should, but under the circumstances, what we
are being fed, the whole business of the military being
here is the most damnable, most outrageous situation. Of those
of you who are listening the same, Oh what does
he know? I'm telling you, I'm right here right now,
and this thing is the biggest overkill, not only by
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the news media, but by Trump the administration having the
military here. Not only are the people resentful of it,
but they're laughing at it because people instead of last
night there were people dancing in the street down on
Hoover Street, which is one of the closer streets in
to the main area of Los Angeles, downtown Los Angeles.
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I can't come up with the words that frame. Again,
I'm using that word because I'm trying to build a
bigger picture here of how it could be so bad,
how the news media is was created Donald Trump and
all the stuff around him by the kind of reporting
that they're doing. So I think I made my hope,
(08:10):
I've made my point. I could go on, but I
I am in disgust to.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
See only one saying this.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
You're not the only one saying this, and uh and
and it's backed up by very reliable reports. It shows
you the power of video, the power of television back
in the Iran, the.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Power of Trump. The power of Trump is just dictating, well,
let's send the I didn't even think it was legal
for the military to serve.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
It's not. It's not. The military is not.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
The military is not supposed to operate domestically, the military
operates protecting us. So how's he get He's getting away
with it because he is using the immediate power of
the presidency, and the media seems to be compliance with it,
going along with it, as opposed to everybody pointing it out.
(09:00):
It's a it's an old playbook trick that authoritarian dictators use.
They create, they create a problem, and then they send
in the military to extinguish it. This is uh, there's
nothing unique about this, and it is there, you know,
and and and people who people who are supporters of
(09:23):
Donald Trump, they've got to get over that and treat him,
you talk about objectively, They've got to treat what he
does with the same objective criticism, you know, with educated
skepticism that you would any president, anybody that has power.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
He's not an outsider, He's an insider. You know.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
These politicians love to give the impression that they're outsiders,
but once they get elected, they become insiders. And I
do believe it's the media's job to hold their feet
to the fire.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
I'm a big believer in that. It's my very core belief.
So I appreciate what you just said.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
I'm glad that we're able to bring that to people,
but it's not a political statement.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Not at all close to being a political statement. Have
been very an observational statement.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
Yeah. Yeah, you've been.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
Very fair and if not even fair, you have been
very supportive of Trump over the years within the parameters.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
That you're able to utilize in.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Terms of policy. I like much of what he stands
for doing some of the appointments, like Kennedy. This week,
the Secretary of Health and Human Services released all of
I think there were fifteen or nineteen people in the
CDC that were supposed experts in vaccines. You get rid
of all of them and brought in some new people
that will bring a refreshing new overview to what the
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policy ought to be. With regard to you, what you're
supposed to get you. There are two things here that
we're the military industrial complex. If you look at the stories,
you can go to talkers dot com and look at
the list of stories that Michael just went through. Pretty
much six maybe seven of them are all about if
(11:05):
the weaving of the strands putting together military and the
military industrial complex, whether it be our relationship with China,
whether it's the Israelis, whether it's the Iranians, whether it's
sending the military into Los Angeles, it's the military, the military,
the military, the military, very unhealthy, very unhealthy, and just
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I don't know, it brings them around. Who's thinking about this?
Do we have critical thinkers or even teaching critical thinking
in school? People are just sitting there dumb and happy thinking. Okay,
we got a good, strong leader. He is a good
strong leader. And as I said, and Michael pointed out
a few minutes ago, there are a lot of things
he's doing that are good. This is not one of them.
This is not in shiny out.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
I didn't point out he's doing anything good. You pointed
it out.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
I point her. You pointed out that I pointed out.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
Yeah, yeah, I have a different view. I don't say, well,
you know, he's destroying democracy, he's breaking the law, he's
taking away our freedom. But he put a good health
guy in who's firing vaccine people. I don't see that
as a statement that makes any logic whatsoever.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
I mean, yes I do. So here's what I'm going
to tag this with. Yesterday I was listening to Christy Noaman,
who's here in Los Angeles was here for about fifteen hours.
She did a press conference in one of the senators.
A guy named Alex Padelia, who nobody knows and the
people in California don't even know him, and they elected him,
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was arrested because he was protesting. And the whole fiasco
around that, and listening to a couple of the news
talk stations here and how they handled it just it's amazing.
I would like to have been on the air yesterday
with one of the guys that I heard on KFI
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having a conversation with the audience about what's going on here.
At any rate, that's our quick gote. We don't want
to spend all of our time on that because a
lot of other things that are going on. As a
person who flies a lot, when I looked at the
story of the Air India crash, I'm sort of starting
to scratching my head because here we go again with
the news media. Well it was a Boeing seven eighty seven,
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and they also make the seven thirty seven. You remember
what happened fourteen years ago to the seven thirty seven.
You know, there's complete there's not an investigation there, there's
no observation. That's new. There's what's the story. This plane
took off from I'm going to see if I can
pronounce this, Michael, I'm metabod. It was on its way
to London and as it took off, it crashed and
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one person survived. Apparently there were two hundred and forty
one people on the plane. And so the seven eighty
seven is a very good airplane. It has become the
airplane of choice for most international carriers. It's a medium
sized plane that has long distance capabilities. And they've had
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issues and questions about how it's slowed down in terms
of production because there were some questions that were related
to some of the same things in production that go
on in the seven thirty seven, if people want to
make sure it's not the same, So a lot of delays.
I know American Airlines has an order for one hundred
of them and they haven't I think they've delivered in
the last year ten of them because they've just slowed
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down the production to make sure that things are okay.
But this is one of those things that I think
is going to come back as pilot. Well, let's see,
but I'm not going to speculate but it's so rare
that we have a plane crash to talk about, given
how many people. If you ever take a trip across
the country and you can sit with as a screen,
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or if you have a screen and you have the
opportunity to go to any one of the websites the
track planes going across the country and you see how
many thousands of planes are in the sky at the
same time. And then you hear these things about the
air traffic controllers and how upset there are because our
systems are so old and because there aren't enough people
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to handle it. It is amazing and the same by
the way, the same problems exist in some of the
third world countries. India doesn't have a great doesn't have
a great system. Anyway, I've just my observation again. News
media blowing the thing up without.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
Having all the facts. So would you suggest that they
don't cover the story?
Speaker 1 (15:38):
No, I suggest that they keep their speculation as to
what happened until after the three agencies that are involved,
the government of India, the United States is sending over
people that are that do this, the investigators that do
this professionally, their best in the world. That's why everybody
wants them to come, and then Boeing sends over a
group of their investigation to see what happened, to see
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if it was the plane and that's not. That'll take
weeks to come to the bottom. I mean, there'd be
some speculations. Since they get the black box, they'll kind
of be able to put it together. But in the meantime,
you know, there's lots say junk that is being filtered
by people, some people who know and some people who
don't know. So I just I pointed out because not
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necessarily because of the incident itself, but because of the
way it's being handled on the news media. And we're
so critical of it because it's before our very eyes.
So many institutions, Michael are melting. You know, the system
of government, the way we have, how do we get
the information so that we know what's going on in
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the world, And you know, it's just a kind of
amazing time.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
It is an amazing time, lots of transition, lots of change,
and of course it's real life drama because we don't
know how it's going to turn out. This is not
being scripted by a production company in Los Angeles making
a TV series. This is real life and it's it's
edgey your seat action, no doubt.
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Got stop talk. So we continue now the second half
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with Michael Harrison, the editor and publisher of Talker's Magazine.
And to remind you that you can find these lists
the charts every week all right at the top of
the header at talkers dot com, along with all the
other information. A lot of things going on in the news,
talk radio business, a lot of then, speaking of the
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radio business itself, there was a lot of talk this
week about Brian Wilson passing away and what his contribution
has been. Somebody and I don't know that this isn't true, Michael,
I guess I'm gonna call on you for your days
as a jock. I'm thinking back when I was a
disc jockey from sixty five to seventy four and how
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much of an influence Brian Wilson and the Beach Boys were.
I think the three most influential groups for me were
the Beach Boys, Frankie Valley in the four Seasons, and
the Beatles, not necessarily in that order. But the Beach
Boys had the creative talent of Brian Wilson to drive them,
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and that he did. Although Michae Love had a lot
to say in some of the lyric lines, and I
think there was a suit love. There's been no love
between Love and the Wilson brothers in the history of
the of the Beach Boys. So when Michael Love sued
Brian Wilson because he wanted credit for breading the lyric
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line for a lot of the Beach Boys songs, he
got it. And that was kind of it. You know,
there were two touring groups. There's the Mike Love Beach
Boy Touring Group and there's the Wilson Al Jardine touring
group of the Beatles, of the Beatles of the Beach Boys.
But the fact that this guy was as creative as
he was, my god. When you think about it, and
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you know, there are a lot of people in lots
of different businesses who are think about the great creative
minds in recent history. No not just music, but think
about like his bezos. One of those guys is Elon Musk.
One of those guys was Apple. What's his face? Who
did Apple the guy who died. Who's responsible? That name is?
Speaker 5 (20:47):
You know, Jobs, Steve Jobs was the Apple Job, but
Steve Wozniak actually was the inventor of the Apple. He
was a buddy of mine back in the old days
in that way. And yeah, Jobs, Jobs was considered the
business guy. You always it was always Wosnyack that was
looked at. Matter of fact, Wosnyck was almost like sort
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of a version of Elon musk Uh. He got involved
in pop culture, he put on rock festivals, and then
Jobs sort of emerged as the main name and figure.
And you've got to remember, for many years Apple was
considered has been. It was Jobs that sort of brought
them back from the edge of being an obsolete medium.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
The PC, the.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
Bill Gates world had really obliterated Apple and the Mac
and Jobs brought them back. So it's kind of an
interesting history in terms of that. But now, when you
said the Four Seasons, the Beatles and the Beach Boys
as being major creative forces and sort of milestones group groups,
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group infinitely, you're you're You're definitely on target with that,
and the Beach Boys and the Beatles had a love
hate relationship between them in terms of competition, and they
went crazy over each other. It really bothered Brian Wilson
that the Beatles had albums like Sergeant Pepper, and he
created an album called Pet Sounds, which he wanted to
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be their Sergeant Pepper, their creative stand. And the real
schism between Mike Love and Brian Wilson was that Mike
Love wanted to do you know, you know, she took
her daddy's Connor and she went to the Hamburgers, and
that kind of right and and and that happens in groups.
Which way do we go? Which which direction do we go?
Do we stay on the same track play for the fans,
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make a lot of money and eventually become hasbans become
a parody? Or do we keep trying new things but
run the risk of failing and.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
Beach Boys.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
Fans that look back at that whole thing generally think
that Mike Love is the bad guy and that Brian
Wilson was the good guy. And on too many reasons
for us to get in here. But it's one of
the great tales of rock and roll, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Well, the same thing so of happened with John Lennon
and the Beotles. Yeah, yeah, that was That was not
a marriage as as it broke up. It was not
a marriage made in heaven. But they all respected each other,
but there was a lot of There was a big
riff Lennon. Some people say it was his wife. I
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don't know. The history doesn't seem to give us a
good reason to think one way or another on that.
But at any rate, that's the Brian Wilson, immense talent
and very interesting human being. In a manner of speaking,
Oh yeah, amens you know, oh yeah, lo, my god,
drug problems, demons he was. He had Parkinson's and he
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had some other form of of of a nervous disorder,
so they had to be I remember seeing a late
Brian Wilson concert where he was actually brought out in
a wheelchair. He was helped to the stool of the piano,
and once he got in front of the microphone and
the piano, you would never know that he had all
of the other things wrong with him.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
That he did.
Speaker 5 (24:09):
He did create a path in his brain. Yeah, the
physicality of being at the keyboards and the adrenaline of
being on stage somehow opened the path in his brain,
and he seemed like a very healthy person.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
Yeah for a while, yep, yep.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Okay, let's talk about the economy if we can for
a few minutes. In the business of the trade and
the tariffs. One of the things that's come out this
week that again I hate. I don't like the word
hate at any rate. I don't like to sound like
a naysayer. But the continuing theme here every week is
(24:47):
the news media and what you don't know. So if
you look at the headlines and the business section of
most and I'm not talking about Bloomberg, and I'm not
even talking about the Wall Street journal I'm talking about
the average newspaper that has sources that are national for
their business news, and the focus on tariffs, tariffs, tariffs
and what it's going to do to ruin business, YadA, YadA.
(25:08):
I suggest to you the tariffs have yet to drive
inflation one iota because they aren't really you know, it's
kind of like they're not really real. There's been a
lot of talk about it, but as with many things
with Trump, he says something and then it doesn't. It
doesn't come to play. The Chinese deal it was made
this week or this weekend last week with regard to tariffs.
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Is that real? It seems to be, but yet to
be played out because we haven't really heard from the
Chinese yet as to the side of it. But I
suggest to you that the reason that inflation has taken hold,
or that there's a concern among the public as to
why not to buy a house right now, or why
not to buy a car, or why not to spend money,
(25:52):
is not because of what's actually happening, but because of
the way it's being reported. This fear tactics, the way
the saga is being told, has no relationship I would
speculate to reality. So there's another I've made two forceful
attempts at having people try to think about being more
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critical in their thinking and finding information and more than
the stuff that's right in front of their nose.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
Am I doing a good job of that? Michael, do
a very good job of it. The key to what
you're saying is, let's not give the bad guys an
opportunity to have power because the good guys are not
doing their jobs right.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Well, who's the bad guy here? Is Trump the bad guy?
Or is the news meeting the bad guy? Or they're
both a bad combinations.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
In my opinion. In my opinion, the combination of the two. Look.
Speaker 5 (26:43):
A lot of people were very very unhappy that Trump
won this election, and they're blaming Kamala Harris. They're blaming
her for losing because she because the Democrats. You see,
people are mad at the Democrats who hate Trump. They're
mad at the Democrats because they feel the Democrats handed
it over by not doing what they could have done
to stop It's the it's the lesser of two evils
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at operating. If you're one of the two evils and
you're the lesser of the two evils, but the other
side makes it look so bad that you're evil, well
you give them an opportunity to come in and be worse.
And that's what's going on. The news media is to
blame for not creating an environment that lets democracy operate
in a healthy way, so everything becomes distorted. But I
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think there's no glory in being the lesser of two evils.
It's the only reason that the lesser of two evils
gets power is because the worse of two evils.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
Didn't do their job.
Speaker 5 (27:42):
It gets very complicated, but you just have to think logically,
are the Demomras are the Democrats responsible for Donald Trump
being president.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Absolutely, yeah, but he didn't win on his own. He
didn't win because he was so bob. They suck a
plan even now, and so.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
The same thing with the news media.
Speaker 5 (28:05):
If we look the First Amendment in this country, the
news media played a role in it.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
As we are doing right as we are doing this program,
there are protests against the immigration raids around the country
and cities all across the United States, and they have
developed not because of what really happened in Los Angeles,
but because of people reading or seeing something on television.
We're going to do that here, let's do let's get
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everybody stirred up, and let's protest. Protesting is an American tradition.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
That's great.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
We are to have more of it. Thinking protesting not
the kind of stuff is my editorially Israeli Palestinian thing,
which is the reason that Greta Thorne. But she didn't
have a clue, as most of the people that have
been on college campuses didn't. We used to think colleges
were to teach us critical thinking. No more, many colleges
(28:55):
and university have like speak and like think and like
you know, it's it's the participation of those who want
to have sort of a social event. And so the
Palestinian thing has been completely in my thinking, looking at
it hopefully objectively. Now my pro Israel, Yeah, i am frankly,
(29:15):
but the Israelis didn't start this, and so you know
what's it. It sort of spread, but the Iranians were
responsible for funding the people that came in. The Hamas
folks get their money from followed the trail. Here's what
there's interesting speculation here, Michael, because when Obama was president,
(29:37):
the money that had been tied up and locked up
in the US banks, about six billion dollars that was
Irani was freed. So as soon as that happened, the
money started flowing to Hamas, and Hamas started making plans
to go into Israel, but using Uranian money that had
been in the American banks. To see what it's like, Hello,
we're all nuts.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
It is. It's the same stuff.
Speaker 5 (30:00):
We are all nuts, and we have no tenk and span.
And unfortunately Generation Z and the young people in colleges
today have no Generally speaking, some are very bright and
some are very nice, but most are very ignorant, ignorant
of history, and they have no idea what the context
of all of this is, and they judge things based
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upon the last five minutes, and that's why there's such
a distortion of understanding about what's going on with Israel
and Hamas and Gaza and the Palestinians. And it's extremely
sad and extremely frustrating, and truth is lost in the shuffle.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Huh for sure? Hey, by the way, do we make
it through Friday the thirteenth? I don't even seen today's
We're doing this program on Friday Friday for the weekend.
I'd feeling pretty good about Friday the thirteenth, aren't you?
Speaker 5 (30:50):
Not till it's over and I get out funder my bed.
I'm brought from under my bed. If you hear anything muffled,
if you hear the sound of muffled noise or screaming
dust bunnies, that's because this show is coming to you
live from under Michael Harrison's bed on Friday the thirteenth.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Okay, So I'm gonna leave you with this thought in
our conversation, the news media has completely abandoned Doge or
they made not to Howard Stable, But I mean, where
is the focus after of Doge and of musk right,
I mean he was, Yes, he's yesterday's news. Who do
(31:31):
you hear talking about him? What do you see as
a focus you see anything?
Speaker 5 (31:35):
He had a little bit of conversation. He was high
on the chart this week because he came out with
a remark that he regrets some of his tweets that
he said about President Trump.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
He went too far.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
That's only because Trump can affect his business interests. All right,
I'm being very cynical. Michael Harrison and Doug Steven We
have done, yet again a yeoman's job of overviewing some
of these things.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
Give people something to think about.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
That's our job here on the talk radio Countdown show
Radio Countdown.
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Talk Radio Countdown. All right, this is the talk radio
Countdown Show. Stephen JJ Wiseman is with us as his
usual spot is occupied by him and is thinking his experience.
He's a great lawyer, he's a great professor. He's a
great observer of what's going on and has obviously strong
thoughts about many things. That's why he's here to help
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us weed through the wade through the farming expression is
the week from the chaff. And so the impossible situation
that I am finding myself talking about a lot is
the situation where military is in the United States inside
the United States that's not legal, but yet it's happening.
(33:05):
So how come somebody hasn't stopped it?
Speaker 6 (33:09):
Well, there is an attempt that's fat and you know
one of the things. So so President Trump who says no,
I'm not a king in the contravention to the no
King demonstrations, when actually he's put out many instances on
(33:29):
social media calling himself a king sendy trying to nationalize
the National Guard to use them in La. Interestingly enough,
when Governor Newsom went to court against that, what Governor
Newsom asked for was to limit the authority of the
National Guard only to protect federal buildings, which actually was
(33:54):
what the the only thing they could do the under
the law. The judge actually went over and beyond that
and said that he was going to put a temporary
restraining on their on any use of the National Guard.
And so this got appealed to the appeals court, and
(34:15):
the appeals court didn't overrule him. They just said that
they wanted time to actually determine this. So the key
thing is, and this happens with Trump so often, and
it was what you alluded to. He does not have
the authority to just order American troops who aren't even
(34:35):
train for this kind of thing into cities where the
threat quite frankly doesn't it doesn't relate to the kind
of of a response. And you know, as has been
said by the governor and the mayil mayor, this is
more inciting violence. And in the violence there has been exaggerated,
but you're right.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
I'm in Los Angeles this weekend, and the exaggeration that
not even a strong enough word for it. The news
media has fallen come if there was an example of
how corrupt the news media has become in general, and
I say this pretty much pointing to all of the
sources of news where the exception I always make an
(35:15):
exception for News Nation because I think they're doing about
the best job there is around today at presenting both
sides and having people understand what's really going on. What's
really going on? Is this about a four block area.
There was a dance last night on the main street
at the corner of A Vigoro, A Figaroa and I
(35:35):
forget the other one is, but I mean this the
first night wasn't great, but the video you can see
is the same video over and over and over again.
And so this's got people to have protests this weekend
as we talk, and then there's the Army Anniversary parade
this weekend. And how much of a contra people are confusing? Yeah, right,
(35:56):
confusing that with the protests. It's a mess.
Speaker 6 (36:01):
It is, it really is. But you know something, and
I share your disappointment with the media, because I do
not understand why mainstream media isn't pointing out the fact
that these demonstrations and really some of the protests that
have gone violent, is in such a small area. Jimmy
(36:23):
Kimmel pointed out the other day this city that is
in Uproar had a major red carpet opening of a movie.
So you know, it isn't under siege. And this is
something that very much should be made known to the
public because the public, if they look at even some
of the regular networks, where they would think that the
(36:44):
extent of violence is so far, so far extended that
it requires a greater response.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
I'm in Santa Monica, my children are in mar Vista,
and West Hollywood. They could they don't know anything about
what's going on. They know what's going on, but they
don't they're not affected by it. But the news media
would make you think that the whole West Coast is
in flames.
Speaker 4 (37:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (37:06):
I'm just going to say, this is a Trump tactic
to exaggerate a problem to give him greater power, and
that's that's pretty dangerous.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
So this week he and Rand Paul were at it one,
you know, like neck and neck and back and forth.
Oh yeah. So then on Friday night, Trump calls up
Rand Paul and invites him to a picnic at the
White House this weekend. So there you have it, folks,
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is the talk radio Countdown Show of all the top
big stories, the discussion topics that have made it big
across the country, from sea to Shining Sea, the North,
the southeast, the West. I'm feeling very philosophical. Michael Doug
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Stefan with Michael Harrison, who's the editor and publisher of
Talkers Magazine. Here for another week examining the charts, the
research done by the staff and management of Talkers Magazine
so that you will know what's on the top of
the list. And this is not this is a This
is an objective list, not a subjective list. Michael sometimes thinks,
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and so do why that we might put a few
things in a different place, like Brian Wilson dying for me,
that's number one. It's one of those it's just like
it's personal priority. Well, we're not talking about personal priorities,
talking about what's going on on the news talk radio,
biz television and the podcasting and that sort of thing.
So our first job here is to go through the
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charts the top ten people that have been part of
the discussion this week in the mainstay and the stories
as well. So, Michael, if you would please let us begin.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
All right, let's do it.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
Here are the stories and the people that have been
most talked about on news talk radio and it's related
media stations, just like the ones that the folks are
listening to this program on right now. At number ten
we have the Air India crash. At number nine, we
have the aforementioned death of rock legend Brian Wilson. At
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number eight, we have the unrest between Israel and Gaza
and toward the end of the week an attack on Iran,
which is at the time of us going to press
so to speak, with this very very big international story. Huge,
and that's tied with Greta Thunberg being deported from Israel
(03:20):
for being a Palestinian sympathizer. At number seven, we have
the FEMA phase out, tied with RFK Junior firing the
CDC vaccine panel. At number six, a little skirmish known
as the Russia Ukraine war at number five, Anticipation and
conversation about Saturday's military parade at number four, US China
(03:43):
trade negotiations and tariffs at number three, US Iran tensions
exacerbated by as I mentioned before, brewing hostilities between Israel
and Iran and Middle East diplomats have been recalled part.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
Of that story. It speaks story huge.
Speaker 5 (04:01):
And at number two we have the Big Beautiful Bill,
tied with the Trump Musk feud which is still being
talked about. And at number one the LA protests and
Trump calls in the military. Those are the big stories.
And again at the time that we're producing this program
at the end of the week, a lot of turmoil,
(04:21):
a lot of things happening, so it's a sort.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
Of working products as it were.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
At number ten we have Brian Wilson, RFK Junior at nine,
Vladimir Putin at a diseison ping at seven, number six,
Howard Lutnik at number five, Benjamin net and Yahoo tied
with Gretathorn Thunberg, Mike Johnson at number four, Elon Musk
at number three, Gavin Newsom and Karen Bass at number two,
and Donald Trump at number one, And there you go.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Wild. It's crazy week, just absolutely wild.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Oh you can say that almost every week since Trump
has been president in before, but Trump has certainly he
has become a major the major news force, it would seem,
not only here in our country, but around the world.
So I'm going to bring you up to date, and
I'm going to throw cold water on a few things
here that are part of my experience. We are telling stories,
(05:19):
good news talk radio people tell stories. My story begins
with me being in Los Angeles at the moment we're
doing this program and having been here for the past
twenty four plus hours, and I have his Father's Day weekends.
I got to spend Father's Day weekend with my children
as we're doing this program. It is Father's Day. But
(05:40):
the essence of my thinking at the moment, as we
look at the number one story, the protests in Los Angeles,
I don't know really how to frame this, Michael, because
I am continually critical of the major news forces, and
there is probably no more There hasn't been a time
(06:02):
in my recent existence when I have been more critical
of the absolute farce that has been produced by and
what people are believing is going on versus what is
going on in Los Angeles. I was in downtown Los
Angeles yesterday. I'm going to downtown Los Angeles today because
i have some work to do and some people to see.
(06:23):
This whole business of the protests is taking place in
about a four block area that is the downtown and
kind of the worst part of Los Angeles to begin with.
If you look carefully at the video that you've been
seeing on the nightly news, you'll see that it's the
same video playing over and over and over again, with
(06:43):
most of the focus being on the first night. Was
the first night bad? Well, it wasn't good. My children
both live in Los Angeles, and they I trust them
and how close they are to it and what they're watching.
As my son, who's a little more objective than my daughter,
who just doesn't like the circumstances that we find ourselves in.
(07:05):
Not than anybody should, but under the circumstances, what we
are being fed, the whole business of the military being
here is the most damnable, most outrageous situation. Of those
of you who are listening the same, Oh what does
he know? I'm telling you, I'm right here right now,
and this thing is the biggest overkill, not only by
(07:26):
the news media, but by Trump the administration having the
military here. Not only are the people resentful of it,
but they're laughing at it because people instead of last
night there were people dancing in the street down on
Hoover Street, which is one of the closer streets in
to the main area of Los Angeles, downtown Los Angeles.
(07:50):
I can't come up with the words that frame. Again,
I'm using that word because I'm trying to build a
bigger picture here of how it could be so bad,
how the news media is was created Donald Trump and
all the stuff around him by the kind of reporting
that they're doing. So I think I made my hope,
(08:10):
I've made my point. I could go on, but I
I am in disgust to.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
See only one saying this.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
You're not the only one saying this, and uh and
and it's backed up by very reliable reports. It shows
you the power of video, the power of television back
in the Iran, the.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Power of Trump. The power of Trump is just dictating, well,
let's send the I didn't even think it was legal
for the military to serve.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
It's not. It's not. The military is not.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
The military is not supposed to operate domestically, the military
operates protecting us. So how's he get He's getting away
with it because he is using the immediate power of
the presidency, and the media seems to be compliance with it,
going along with it, as opposed to everybody pointing it out.
(09:00):
It's a it's an old playbook trick that authoritarian dictators use.
They create, they create a problem, and then they send
in the military to extinguish it. This is uh, there's
nothing unique about this, and it is there, you know,
and and and people who people who are supporters of
(09:23):
Donald Trump, they've got to get over that and treat him,
you talk about objectively, They've got to treat what he
does with the same objective criticism, you know, with educated
skepticism that you would any president, anybody that has power.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
He's not an outsider, He's an insider. You know.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
These politicians love to give the impression that they're outsiders,
but once they get elected, they become insiders. And I
do believe it's the media's job to hold their feet
to the fire.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
I'm a big believer in that. It's my very core belief.
So I appreciate what you just said.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
I'm glad that we're able to bring that to people,
but it's not a political statement.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Not at all close to being a political statement. Have
been very an observational statement.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
Yeah. Yeah, you've been.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
Very fair and if not even fair, you have been
very supportive of Trump over the years within the parameters.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
That you're able to utilize in.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Terms of policy. I like much of what he stands
for doing some of the appointments, like Kennedy. This week,
the Secretary of Health and Human Services released all of
I think there were fifteen or nineteen people in the
CDC that were supposed experts in vaccines. You get rid
of all of them and brought in some new people
that will bring a refreshing new overview to what the
(10:42):
policy ought to be. With regard to you, what you're
supposed to get you. There are two things here that
we're the military industrial complex. If you look at the stories,
you can go to talkers dot com and look at
the list of stories that Michael just went through. Pretty
much six maybe seven of them are all about if
(11:05):
the weaving of the strands putting together military and the
military industrial complex, whether it be our relationship with China,
whether it's the Israelis, whether it's the Iranians, whether it's
sending the military into Los Angeles, it's the military, the military,
the military, the military, very unhealthy, very unhealthy, and just
(11:32):
I don't know, it brings them around. Who's thinking about this?
Do we have critical thinkers or even teaching critical thinking
in school? People are just sitting there dumb and happy thinking. Okay,
we got a good, strong leader. He is a good
strong leader. And as I said, and Michael pointed out
a few minutes ago, there are a lot of things
he's doing that are good. This is not one of them.
This is not in shiny out.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
I didn't point out he's doing anything good. You pointed
it out.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
I point her. You pointed out that I pointed out.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
Yeah, yeah, I have a different view. I don't say, well,
you know, he's destroying democracy, he's breaking the law, he's
taking away our freedom. But he put a good health
guy in who's firing vaccine people. I don't see that
as a statement that makes any logic whatsoever.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
I mean, yes I do. So here's what I'm going
to tag this with. Yesterday I was listening to Christy Noaman,
who's here in Los Angeles was here for about fifteen hours.
She did a press conference in one of the senators.
A guy named Alex Padelia, who nobody knows and the
people in California don't even know him, and they elected him,
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was arrested because he was protesting. And the whole fiasco
around that, and listening to a couple of the news
talk stations here and how they handled it just it's amazing.
I would like to have been on the air yesterday
with one of the guys that I heard on KFI
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having a conversation with the audience about what's going on here.
At any rate, that's our quick gote. We don't want
to spend all of our time on that because a
lot of other things that are going on. As a
person who flies a lot, when I looked at the
story of the Air India crash, I'm sort of starting
to scratching my head because here we go again with
the news media. Well it was a Boeing seven eighty seven,
(13:24):
and they also make the seven thirty seven. You remember
what happened fourteen years ago to the seven thirty seven.
You know, there's complete there's not an investigation there, there's
no observation. That's new. There's what's the story. This plane
took off from I'm going to see if I can
pronounce this, Michael, I'm metabod. It was on its way
to London and as it took off, it crashed and
(13:48):
one person survived. Apparently there were two hundred and forty
one people on the plane. And so the seven eighty
seven is a very good airplane. It has become the
airplane of choice for most international carriers. It's a medium
sized plane that has long distance capabilities. And they've had
(14:12):
issues and questions about how it's slowed down in terms
of production because there were some questions that were related
to some of the same things in production that go
on in the seven thirty seven, if people want to
make sure it's not the same, So a lot of delays.
I know American Airlines has an order for one hundred
of them and they haven't I think they've delivered in
the last year ten of them because they've just slowed
(14:33):
down the production to make sure that things are okay.
But this is one of those things that I think
is going to come back as pilot. Well, let's see,
but I'm not going to speculate but it's so rare
that we have a plane crash to talk about, given
how many people. If you ever take a trip across
the country and you can sit with as a screen,
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or if you have a screen and you have the
opportunity to go to any one of the websites the
track planes going across the country and you see how
many thousands of planes are in the sky at the
same time. And then you hear these things about the
air traffic controllers and how upset there are because our
systems are so old and because there aren't enough people
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to handle it. It is amazing and the same by
the way, the same problems exist in some of the
third world countries. India doesn't have a great doesn't have
a great system. Anyway, I've just my observation again. News
media blowing the thing up without.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
Having all the facts. So would you suggest that they
don't cover the story?
Speaker 1 (15:38):
No, I suggest that they keep their speculation as to
what happened until after the three agencies that are involved,
the government of India, the United States is sending over
people that are that do this, the investigators that do
this professionally, their best in the world. That's why everybody
wants them to come, and then Boeing sends over a
group of their investigation to see what happened, to see
(16:01):
if it was the plane and that's not. That'll take
weeks to come to the bottom. I mean, there'd be
some speculations. Since they get the black box, they'll kind
of be able to put it together. But in the meantime,
you know, there's lots say junk that is being filtered
by people, some people who know and some people who
don't know. So I just I pointed out because not
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necessarily because of the incident itself, but because of the
way it's being handled on the news media. And we're
so critical of it because it's before our very eyes.
So many institutions, Michael are melting. You know, the system
of government, the way we have, how do we get
the information so that we know what's going on in
(16:44):
the world, And you know, it's just a kind of
amazing time.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
It is an amazing time, lots of transition, lots of change,
and of course it's real life drama because we don't
know how it's going to turn out. This is not
being scripted by a production company in Los Angeles making
a TV series. This is real life and it's it's
edgey your seat action, no doubt.
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Got stop talk. So we continue now the second half
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And to remind you that you can find these lists
the charts every week all right at the top of
the header at talkers dot com, along with all the
other information. A lot of things going on in the news,
talk radio business, a lot of then, speaking of the
(18:55):
radio business itself, there was a lot of talk this
week about Brian Wilson passing away and what his contribution
has been. Somebody and I don't know that this isn't true, Michael,
I guess I'm gonna call on you for your days
as a jock. I'm thinking back when I was a
disc jockey from sixty five to seventy four and how
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much of an influence Brian Wilson and the Beach Boys were.
I think the three most influential groups for me were
the Beach Boys, Frankie Valley in the four Seasons, and
the Beatles, not necessarily in that order. But the Beach
Boys had the creative talent of Brian Wilson to drive them,
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and that he did. Although Michae Love had a lot
to say in some of the lyric lines, and I
think there was a suit love. There's been no love
between Love and the Wilson brothers in the history of
the of the Beach Boys. So when Michael Love sued
Brian Wilson because he wanted credit for breading the lyric
(20:00):
line for a lot of the Beach Boys songs, he
got it. And that was kind of it. You know,
there were two touring groups. There's the Mike Love Beach
Boy Touring Group and there's the Wilson Al Jardine touring
group of the Beatles, of the Beatles of the Beach Boys.
But the fact that this guy was as creative as
he was, my god. When you think about it, and
(20:21):
you know, there are a lot of people in lots
of different businesses who are think about the great creative
minds in recent history. No not just music, but think
about like his bezos. One of those guys is Elon Musk.
One of those guys was Apple. What's his face? Who
did Apple the guy who died. Who's responsible? That name is?
Speaker 5 (20:47):
You know, Jobs, Steve Jobs was the Apple Job, but
Steve Wozniak actually was the inventor of the Apple. He
was a buddy of mine back in the old days
in that way. And yeah, Jobs, Jobs was considered the
business guy. You always it was always Wosnyack that was
looked at. Matter of fact, Wosnyck was almost like sort
(21:09):
of a version of Elon musk Uh. He got involved
in pop culture, he put on rock festivals, and then
Jobs sort of emerged as the main name and figure.
And you've got to remember, for many years Apple was
considered has been. It was Jobs that sort of brought
them back from the edge of being an obsolete medium.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
The PC, the.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
Bill Gates world had really obliterated Apple and the Mac
and Jobs brought them back. So it's kind of an
interesting history in terms of that. But now, when you
said the Four Seasons, the Beatles and the Beach Boys
as being major creative forces and sort of milestones group groups,
(21:58):
group infinitely, you're you're You're definitely on target with that,
and the Beach Boys and the Beatles had a love
hate relationship between them in terms of competition, and they
went crazy over each other. It really bothered Brian Wilson
that the Beatles had albums like Sergeant Pepper, and he
created an album called Pet Sounds, which he wanted to
(22:21):
be their Sergeant Pepper, their creative stand. And the real
schism between Mike Love and Brian Wilson was that Mike
Love wanted to do you know, you know, she took
her daddy's Connor and she went to the Hamburgers, and
that kind of right and and and that happens in groups.
Which way do we go? Which which direction do we go?
Do we stay on the same track play for the fans,
(22:43):
make a lot of money and eventually become hasbans become
a parody? Or do we keep trying new things but
run the risk of failing and.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
Beach Boys.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
Fans that look back at that whole thing generally think
that Mike Love is the bad guy and that Brian
Wilson was the good guy. And on too many reasons
for us to get in here. But it's one of
the great tales of rock and roll, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Well, the same thing so of happened with John Lennon
and the Beotles. Yeah, yeah, that was That was not
a marriage as as it broke up. It was not
a marriage made in heaven. But they all respected each other,
but there was a lot of There was a big
riff Lennon. Some people say it was his wife. I
(23:25):
don't know. The history doesn't seem to give us a
good reason to think one way or another on that.
But at any rate, that's the Brian Wilson, immense talent
and very interesting human being. In a manner of speaking,
Oh yeah, amens you know, oh yeah, lo, my god,
drug problems, demons he was. He had Parkinson's and he
(23:47):
had some other form of of of a nervous disorder,
so they had to be I remember seeing a late
Brian Wilson concert where he was actually brought out in
a wheelchair. He was helped to the stool of the piano,
and once he got in front of the microphone and
the piano, you would never know that he had all
of the other things wrong with him.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
That he did.
Speaker 5 (24:09):
He did create a path in his brain. Yeah, the
physicality of being at the keyboards and the adrenaline of
being on stage somehow opened the path in his brain,
and he seemed like a very healthy person.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
Yeah for a while, yep, yep.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Okay, let's talk about the economy if we can for
a few minutes. In the business of the trade and
the tariffs. One of the things that's come out this
week that again I hate. I don't like the word
hate at any rate. I don't like to sound like
a naysayer. But the continuing theme here every week is
(24:47):
the news media and what you don't know. So if
you look at the headlines and the business section of
most and I'm not talking about Bloomberg, and I'm not
even talking about the Wall Street journal I'm talking about
the average newspaper that has sources that are national for
their business news, and the focus on tariffs, tariffs, tariffs
and what it's going to do to ruin business, YadA, YadA.
(25:08):
I suggest to you the tariffs have yet to drive
inflation one iota because they aren't really you know, it's
kind of like they're not really real. There's been a
lot of talk about it, but as with many things
with Trump, he says something and then it doesn't. It
doesn't come to play. The Chinese deal it was made
this week or this weekend last week with regard to tariffs.
(25:31):
Is that real? It seems to be, but yet to
be played out because we haven't really heard from the
Chinese yet as to the side of it. But I
suggest to you that the reason that inflation has taken hold,
or that there's a concern among the public as to
why not to buy a house right now, or why
not to buy a car, or why not to spend money,
(25:52):
is not because of what's actually happening, but because of
the way it's being reported. This fear tactics, the way
the saga is being told, has no relationship I would
speculate to reality. So there's another I've made two forceful
attempts at having people try to think about being more
(26:14):
critical in their thinking and finding information and more than
the stuff that's right in front of their nose.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
Am I doing a good job of that? Michael, do
a very good job of it. The key to what
you're saying is, let's not give the bad guys an
opportunity to have power because the good guys are not
doing their jobs right.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Well, who's the bad guy here? Is Trump the bad guy?
Or is the news meeting the bad guy? Or they're
both a bad combinations.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
In my opinion. In my opinion, the combination of the two. Look.
Speaker 5 (26:43):
A lot of people were very very unhappy that Trump
won this election, and they're blaming Kamala Harris. They're blaming
her for losing because she because the Democrats. You see,
people are mad at the Democrats who hate Trump. They're
mad at the Democrats because they feel the Democrats handed
it over by not doing what they could have done
to stop It's the it's the lesser of two evils
(27:05):
at operating. If you're one of the two evils and
you're the lesser of the two evils, but the other
side makes it look so bad that you're evil, well
you give them an opportunity to come in and be worse.
And that's what's going on. The news media is to
blame for not creating an environment that lets democracy operate
in a healthy way, so everything becomes distorted. But I
(27:28):
think there's no glory in being the lesser of two evils.
It's the only reason that the lesser of two evils
gets power is because the worse of two evils.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
Didn't do their job.
Speaker 5 (27:42):
It gets very complicated, but you just have to think logically,
are the Demomras are the Democrats responsible for Donald Trump
being president.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Absolutely, yeah, but he didn't win on his own. He
didn't win because he was so bob. They suck a
plan even now, and so.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
The same thing with the news media.
Speaker 5 (28:05):
If we look the First Amendment in this country, the
news media played a role in it.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
As we are doing right as we are doing this program,
there are protests against the immigration raids around the country
and cities all across the United States, and they have
developed not because of what really happened in Los Angeles,
but because of people reading or seeing something on television.
We're going to do that here, let's do let's get
(28:29):
everybody stirred up, and let's protest. Protesting is an American tradition.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
That's great.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
We are to have more of it. Thinking protesting not
the kind of stuff is my editorially Israeli Palestinian thing,
which is the reason that Greta Thorne. But she didn't
have a clue, as most of the people that have
been on college campuses didn't. We used to think colleges
were to teach us critical thinking. No more, many colleges
(28:55):
and university have like speak and like think and like
you know, it's it's the participation of those who want
to have sort of a social event. And so the
Palestinian thing has been completely in my thinking, looking at
it hopefully objectively. Now my pro Israel, Yeah, i am frankly,
(29:15):
but the Israelis didn't start this, and so you know
what's it. It sort of spread, but the Iranians were
responsible for funding the people that came in. The Hamas
folks get their money from followed the trail. Here's what
there's interesting speculation here, Michael, because when Obama was president,
(29:37):
the money that had been tied up and locked up
in the US banks, about six billion dollars that was
Irani was freed. So as soon as that happened, the
money started flowing to Hamas, and Hamas started making plans
to go into Israel, but using Uranian money that had
been in the American banks. To see what it's like, Hello,
we're all nuts.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
It is. It's the same stuff.
Speaker 5 (30:00):
We are all nuts, and we have no tenk and span.
And unfortunately Generation Z and the young people in colleges
today have no Generally speaking, some are very bright and
some are very nice, but most are very ignorant, ignorant
of history, and they have no idea what the context
of all of this is, and they judge things based
(30:22):
upon the last five minutes, and that's why there's such
a distortion of understanding about what's going on with Israel
and Hamas and Gaza and the Palestinians. And it's extremely
sad and extremely frustrating, and truth is lost in the shuffle.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Huh for sure? Hey, by the way, do we make
it through Friday the thirteenth? I don't even seen today's
We're doing this program on Friday Friday for the weekend.
I'd feeling pretty good about Friday the thirteenth, aren't you?
Speaker 5 (30:50):
Not till it's over and I get out funder my bed.
I'm brought from under my bed. If you hear anything muffled,
if you hear the sound of muffled noise or screaming
dust bunnies, that's because this show is coming to you
live from under Michael Harrison's bed on Friday the thirteenth.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Okay, So I'm gonna leave you with this thought in
our conversation, the news media has completely abandoned Doge or
they made not to Howard Stable, But I mean, where
is the focus after of Doge and of musk right,
I mean he was, Yes, he's yesterday's news. Who do
(31:31):
you hear talking about him? What do you see as
a focus you see anything?
Speaker 5 (31:35):
He had a little bit of conversation. He was high
on the chart this week because he came out with
a remark that he regrets some of his tweets that
he said about President Trump.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
He went too far.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
That's only because Trump can affect his business interests. All right,
I'm being very cynical. Michael Harrison and Doug Steven We
have done, yet again a yeoman's job of overviewing some
of these things.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
Give people something to think about.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
That's our job here on the talk radio Countdown show
Radio Countdown.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
We're counting down what America is talking about. The talk
radio Countdown Show continues.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
Talk Radio Countdown. All right, this is the talk radio
Countdown Show. Stephen JJ Wiseman is with us as his
usual spot is occupied by him and is thinking his experience.
He's a great lawyer, he's a great professor. He's a
great observer of what's going on and has obviously strong
thoughts about many things. That's why he's here to help
(32:43):
us weed through the wade through the farming expression is
the week from the chaff. And so the impossible situation
that I am finding myself talking about a lot is
the situation where military is in the United States inside
the United States that's not legal, but yet it's happening.
(33:05):
So how come somebody hasn't stopped it?
Speaker 6 (33:09):
Well, there is an attempt that's fat and you know
one of the things. So so President Trump who says no,
I'm not a king in the contravention to the no
King demonstrations, when actually he's put out many instances on
(33:29):
social media calling himself a king sendy trying to nationalize
the National Guard to use them in La. Interestingly enough,
when Governor Newsom went to court against that, what Governor
Newsom asked for was to limit the authority of the
National Guard only to protect federal buildings, which actually was
(33:54):
what the the only thing they could do the under
the law. The judge actually went over and beyond that
and said that he was going to put a temporary
restraining on their on any use of the National Guard.
And so this got appealed to the appeals court, and
(34:15):
the appeals court didn't overrule him. They just said that
they wanted time to actually determine this. So the key
thing is, and this happens with Trump so often, and
it was what you alluded to. He does not have
the authority to just order American troops who aren't even
(34:35):
train for this kind of thing into cities where the
threat quite frankly doesn't it doesn't relate to the kind
of of a response. And you know, as has been
said by the governor and the mayil mayor, this is
more inciting violence. And in the violence there has been exaggerated,
but you're right.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
I'm in Los Angeles this weekend, and the exaggeration that
not even a strong enough word for it. The news
media has fallen come if there was an example of
how corrupt the news media has become in general, and
I say this pretty much pointing to all of the
sources of news where the exception I always make an
(35:15):
exception for News Nation because I think they're doing about
the best job there is around today at presenting both
sides and having people understand what's really going on. What's
really going on? Is this about a four block area.
There was a dance last night on the main street
at the corner of A Vigoro, A Figaroa and I
(35:35):
forget the other one is, but I mean this the
first night wasn't great, but the video you can see
is the same video over and over and over again.
And so this's got people to have protests this weekend
as we talk, and then there's the Army Anniversary parade
this weekend. And how much of a contra people are confusing? Yeah, right,
(35:56):
confusing that with the protests. It's a mess.
Speaker 6 (36:01):
It is, it really is. But you know something, and
I share your disappointment with the media, because I do
not understand why mainstream media isn't pointing out the fact
that these demonstrations and really some of the protests that
have gone violent, is in such a small area. Jimmy
(36:23):
Kimmel pointed out the other day this city that is
in Uproar had a major red carpet opening of a movie.
So you know, it isn't under siege. And this is
something that very much should be made known to the
public because the public, if they look at even some
of the regular networks, where they would think that the
(36:44):
extent of violence is so far, so far extended that
it requires a greater response.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
I'm in Santa Monica, my children are in mar Vista,
and West Hollywood. They could they don't know anything about
what's going on. They know what's going on, but they
don't they're not affected by it. But the news media
would make you think that the whole West Coast is
in flames.
Speaker 4 (37:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (37:06):
I'm just going to say, this is a Trump tactic
to exaggerate a problem to give him greater power, and
that's that's pretty dangerous.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
So this week he and Rand Paul were at it one,
you know, like neck and neck and back and forth.
Oh yeah. So then on Friday night, Trump calls up
Rand Paul and invites him to a picnic at the
White House this weekend. So there you have it, folks,
the impossible becomes possible. Stephen JJ Wiseman with Doug Stephan
(37:39):
on The Talk Radio Countdown Show.
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