August 1, 2025 • 36 mins
8/2/25 - The Epstein Files Top The List For A 2nd Week
Host Doug Stephan along with Michael Harrison, Editor/Publisher of Talkers Magazine, review the most talked about stories and people on news/talk radio for the week of July 28th, 2025 through August 1st, 2025. Compiled by the research department at Talkers Magazine - The Bible of Talk Radio and the New Talk Media - www.talkers.com
STORIES
Host Doug Stephan along with Michael Harrison, Editor/Publisher of Talkers Magazine, review the most talked about stories and people on news/talk radio for the week of July 28th, 2025 through August 1st, 2025. Compiled by the research department at Talkers Magazine - The Bible of Talk Radio and the New Talk Media - www.talkers.com
STORIES
- The Epstein Files
- Tariff Deals
- Fed Interest Rates Policy
- Gaza Humanitarian Crisis
- Colleges Settle with Trump
- U.S.-China Trade Negotiations
- ICE Raids
- Texas Redistricting Map
- Russia-Ukraine War
- Deadly NYC Shooting
- Donald Trump
- Jeffrey Epstein
- Ghislaine Maxwell
- Bill Clinton
- Barack Obama / Joe Biden
- Jerome Powell
- Benjamin Netanyahu
- Mike Johnson
- Vladimir Putin
- Shane Tamura
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Counting down what America is talking about. Welcome to the
talk radio Countdown Show.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
All across America Talk radio at the voices of freedom.
Speaker 5 (01:18):
Don't stop talking, don't stop sharing, don't stop laughing, don't
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Speaker 1 (01:25):
Do not stop hearing. That's the most important part. The
lyric line there is all very important, but that's a
very important lyric line from Gunhill Road. Michael Harrison. I'm
DEEG Stephan here with aforementioned to Michael Harrison, who's the
editor and publisher of Talkers Magazine, among many other things
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to his credit over the years. We here now are
set to go through the story list and the people
list has called through the efforts of the staff at
Talkers Magazine, find out what the big story is the
news talk this past week and the people who are
part of that, and as usual, neither of us have
much to say. This will be a quiet hour in peace.
(02:10):
It's very important versus to have calm in our lives
around all of the mayhem that is a part of
living in America today. Michael, So you can be cool, calm,
collected here we go through that.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Yes, be very quiet, please, We're gonna have quiet on
a talk show that should be interesting. We may home
a tune here or there. So basically, here are the
ten biggest stories of conversation topics of conversation on news
talk stations just like the one you're listening to, folks
right now. There are others around the country that share
this view of the world and a way of expressing
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it called news talk radio at number ten. The deadly
New York City shooting at number nine, The Russia Ukraine
War at number eight. The Texas the Texas redistricting map,
Ice raids are at number seven. US China trade negotiations
are at six. The colleges settle up with Trump at five.
(03:08):
At number four, the spotlight is back on Gaza and
the Gaza humanitarian crisis. They fed interest rates policy is
at number three. At number two the tariff deals Trump
is announced as tariffs for the world, and at number one,
the Epstein Files continues to be the story that dogs
(03:31):
Donald Trump. On the people list, we have Shane Tamura
or Tamara the Gunman in New York at number ten,
Vladimir Putin at nine, Mike Johnson at eight. Number seven
is Benjamin at YAO six is Jerome Powell. We have
the dynamic duo of Barack Obama and Joe Biden at
number five. Number four all by himself up there Bill Clinton,
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Gilaine Maxwell, a true right hand woman at number three
at number two, Jeffrey Epstein number one, Donald Trump, Jeffrey
Epstein up there at number two from the grave. And
it's been another It's been another week, and here we
are on the weekend, summoning it all up.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Number seven. This week the ice arraids the ice agents
who rated a meatpacking plant in Nebraska this week took
one half of the staff at this company. The company
said that they had been since the last hiring process
for them, which was four years ago, verified every hire
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or tried to production at this meatpacking plant is now
off by seventy percent. So my question to all of
you who are in the same mindset as I am,
and maybe Michael, is the support we have for protecting
our country, beefing up at our borders, et cetera, et cetera,
(05:02):
not letting people in. Is this story and so many
other stories that have repeated themselves this week on the
ice side of things, is that serving America this particular
circumstance has repeated itself. I'm a farmer. I'm in the
egg business in addition to being in the broadcasting business,
so I follow these stories very closely in the various
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trades and with my friends who have gone through this,
not to the extent that this particular meatpacking plant went through.
But business is off pretty much everywhere in agriculture in America.
And the best example I come up with a practical example, Michael,
is the cost of beef, buying a steak, buying a hamburger,
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buying anything that is pork or chicken. All of the
prices have gone up because there's a short supply. And
do you ever wonder why we are in the Circuman?
Are you thinking when you go to the store, you
go to the butcher's shop, or you go to your
nearby farm and you can't get stuff? Why is that?
(06:09):
Is there a conspiracy here to do just the opposite
of making America great again? Would be the question that
I would ask. With all of the border closings and stuff. Yep,
that's good, but as a result of the actions of
the government, we are paying way more for our food.
And wasn't the promise during the election that we're going
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to cut the cost of the food, the cost of
buying the various essentials that we need, And in fact
that's not the case. It's not even close to being
the case in this circumstance, and most of it is
because of the actions of the government to purge use
of people who they say shouldn't be here. I don't
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want to be the person who decides who's going to
stay and who's not going to stay. But I know
I've talked to a lot of people who are farmers, Michael,
and they have said that there are ways the government,
some of the agents have suggested that they wish they
could just bring some sort of a let's bring a van,
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a portable van to these farms and at least sign
people up to get them on the way to the
green card, so we continue to harvest. I read and
I talked about this on the American Family Farmer Show
this week. Story especially from the Northwest where cherries are
all rotting because most of the people that pick the
cherries has to be done by hand, have been taken away.
(07:33):
How is this serving America? How is this making America
great again? Would be my question.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Now, that's a good question, and you you basically answered
it by saying it's not that there's not enough coordination
and a big picture, thinking that there's a small picture
in real time as opposed to mapping out a strategy
of time and actions that doesn't cause immediate damage, that
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keeps the wheels turning, keeps momentum going, but aims the
nation in a direction where control can eventually be acquired
over the immigration process, which is in need of reform.
But to go and upend families, to upend businesses, to
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create unconstitutional thinking, and to really make people suffer on
all ends of the equation is not necessarily the best
way that this could be done. Well.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
It's a wipeout for a lot of these farmers who
have seasonal and very specific forms of growing produce, and
what they have is limited to the season. For example,
peaches need to be picked right now. Cherries were actually
whether they were in season a month or so ago,
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and we're in now. If you go to the store
and you get sherry's, none of are from America, they're
from elsewhere. And you can say the same almost across
the board. The beef that we're eating now, most of
us coming from Brazil and Chili. It's not coming from America.
And so what do we The ripple effect is like,
we're not thinking this through. And you listen to the
(09:20):
people like the lady who's the head of the USDA
that says we're going to fix all of this. Okay,
when and how are you gonna? Are we gonna all
half of us be gone? Because farmers teeter on the
edge all the time. There's never enough money to pay
all of the bills, and so without a crop this season,
for many of these people, it'll be the end. It's
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not just a it's not a problem for this year.
It's the end. So again, one would wonder what the
real story is here and why we are really doing
some of these things. And remember, the real issues are
over here on the left side. And I don't mean
this politically, but over here there's this distractions okay, Epstein
(10:01):
and tariffs and Gaza and you know it's it's it's
really pretty amazing.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
Aza is not a distraction, Epstein. I mean there's a
distraction if you if you think that Trump should just
be given a pass on this. Uh, they all connect,
they all relate, And you know, I don't know, do
you think there's a conspiracy to make America ungreat for
some nefarious reason that I don't know.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
I don't trust the leadership. I don't I don't trust
the people who we have entrusted to do things because
they're not using their heads. They're not planning, they're not
figuring out how to do this better. They're just you know,
Trump has been forever pulling it out of his butt. Okay,
so that's the way it worked in business. This is
not really business. It is the business.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
But he claims, but he claims that this is what
people voted overwhelmingly for. They want him to do this.
Look at how productive he has been. Look At how
many you know, rotten foreigners have been thrown out of
the country. Yeah, a statistics or research or proof or
due prossas. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
It's in the same of the tariffs. Where's the money going?
Speaker 4 (11:18):
But that I still I don't understand why the tariffs
are being covered by the news the way they're being covered.
I don't know. If I'm almost afraid there's something about
this I might not know, And I don't want to
make a fool of myself. Do I not understand what
a tariff is? Why? I really am doubting my own
sanity reading the gas lighting that's being done in the
(11:41):
mainstream media about tariffs. Who is paying these who is
paying these tariffs. I ask innocently, where does the money
come from? Who is shelling out the money for the tariffs?
When they talk about this country's ten percent, that country's
twenty percent, this one's thirty who's paying that money to.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
The people who buy cars that are made in Europe?
That are tariffs? The people who are by when they say.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
So, when they say so, when they say when they
say the government is imposing a tariff on you know, Smithland,
let's make up a country. Does that mean that the
Smithland producers and importers have to pay it? Or the
American companies that are.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Buying they pay it and they passed the charges along
to the people that are buying. Who is they that
the companies were talking about? The companies in these countries
that are being charged whatever country it is.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
So the definition of tariff has changed in the last
couple of weeks. Well, that's it you have made, isn't
it the American is Isn't it the American importers. Aren't
it the American importers who are paying the tariffs, not
the people who are sending the stuff. The whole definition
has gone upside down. Think about what I'm saying. You
know we have a break coming up, obviously, but I
(13:01):
just want I want to make sure that I'm not
crazy because it's not right. There's something. There's something wrong
here one of.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
The things that has come up. And it's always a question,
I think among those of us who are in the business,
maybe the insiders. We talk to the listeners who are
the reason we do the program, and they listen for
lots of reasons to lots of different programs and lots
of different ways of distribution of programs, And certainly in
the last few years, Michael, we've been impacted by the
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podcasts that have come from people that are all over
the place that make no mistake about it. Joe Rogan
is there to say he's doing a great job of
bringing people lots of things to think about. That's what
the podcast world is about, isn't it? Isn't Is that
what news talk is about in general? Give you something
to think about? What is? What do you? How do
(13:50):
you perceive all these various elements.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
There's different subjects and there's different genres. When you mentioned dethroning,
it's changing every day. The measurement of online broadcasting is
a minute to minute thing. As opposed to you know,
let's wait for the Billboard charts to come out once
a week. You know, we're operating on a real time situation,
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and there are many generic modes of broadcasting. Not every
podcast is news talk, and not every podcast is in
terms of its timing, it's a distribution the same. For example,
the Midas Touch Network is often cited as beating Joe Rogan,
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but Joe Rogan is a podcast. The Midas Touch Network
is a network of podcasters. There is no Midas Touch podcast.
It's a network and it communicates to its audience via podcasts.
The main figure there is a filla by the name
of Ben Mysallas and he works seven days a week,
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twenty four hours a day that he just works constantly.
He's got two brothers and they have a number of
other podcasters that work with them. So that's a network
disguising as a podcast. Rogan is a podcast, and the
numbers are being tracked constantly. Every minute, the numbers are
different than they were the minute before, as opposed to
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back in the days when we put out our radio
and records charts it was once a week and Billboard
with the music once a week. Once a week it's
like every hour it changes. So have I clarified a
little bit of that in terms of the just chaos
that exists in the podcasting world. Plus, there's no one
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agency that everybody recognizes as being the authority on keeping tabs.
And then when you look at the algorithms that big
tech imposes on people, we don't even know if these
numbers are true. They certainly they certainly are massaged and
warped by the processes of big tech. I mean, YouTube
(16:00):
has complete control over whether your podcast is going to
even be heard or seen by its audience based upon
its algorithms. So I look at this whole thing about
who the champion podcaster is with a tremendous amount of
educated skepticism.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Well, I think that that's what we all ought to
be doing, is listening and having the application of skepticism
as it comes to you know, you say, somebody says
one thing about this person and whether he or she
appears in the letters or the Epstein files. And one
person says no, they're not there. Another person says yes,
(16:39):
they're there. So under that circumstance, how do you know
what to believe? How does anybody I used to refer
to it as truth decay and the whole business.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
We have a lot of truth decay. That's a great word.
As a matter of fact, up there with I think
Colbert came up with the term truthiness, which is a
great word.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
And to the people, to him and the people that
watch him, he's the truth. But yet you listen to
some of these other folks whose names we mentioned from
time to time, and they're the truth.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
People have their own truths. People have their own truths
based on whose shoes they're standing in. We should continue
with what is truth?
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Let's do that as we continue here on this week's
news talk radio over review of the news talk world.
It's the talk Radio Countdown, Show.
Speaker 5 (17:26):
Radio Countdown, don't stop talking.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
I'm Dug Stefan along with Michael Harrison, the editor and
publisher of Talkers Magazine. We're going over the information surrounding
the charts for this past week July twenty eighth to August. First,
Good Heavens. We could spend the rest of the program
talking about time and time flying and where it's going,
and where is the universe and why is the moon round?
(18:01):
And you know that kind of stuff, because that's something
that people. This is about conversation. This program is about
what's on the news talk in the news talk world
and the news talk stations and some of the clever,
creative folks. You're talking about things outside the political world,
even though it's not the main it's not the big deal.
(18:21):
The big deal are the stories that we're talking about,
and so we stick to those. And Michael brought up
something a few minutes ago about truth and facts, and
I remember talking to Rush about this once early on
in both of our careers, doing a syndicated program, what
was the difference between truth and facts? Because he always said,
and that's one of the things that attracted people to him,
(18:44):
because he was so sure about the truth, or he
sounded like he was so sure about the truth, and
he was. He knew what his truth was, and he
appealed to people who also knew who there or what
their truth was. And that didn't always, you know, I
remember having this conversation with him when he smiled at
(19:04):
me when I asked him about the facts. It wasn't
that's not what our that's not what we were talking about.
We were talking about our truth and appealing to people's truths,
and that's why the separation began with him, I think, Michael,
and that's you know where it went. In fact, what
people's he realized intelligently. He's a genius obviously, look at
(19:26):
the success he had. The truth is what people wanted.
Their truths is what they wanted to talk about. Are
here discussed. Not the facts. The facts are important. You
always say that to me, and I think that's one
of the things that separates us from maybe others. And
(19:46):
if that's important, it may not be. But facts, yeah,
one of the facts. Let's not distort the facts that
sort of thing anyway.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
And there's not necessarily one set of facts. An argument
between two actions, uh facttions. It doesn't necessarily mean one
is right and one is wrong. It's an argument and
a negotiation between interests. Some people's interest lies in having
type borders. Other people's interests lie in having loose borders.
(20:18):
It's not that one is true and one is not true.
It has to do with what are your interests, what
are your business connections, how do you make a living,
how does it affect you? And an enlightened society is
one where there's respect for other people's point of view
because they're standing in different shoes. They have a different
(20:38):
point of view based upon their position in the game.
And then you're so, it isn't that one side is
right and one side is wrong. There's different different connections
to facts, and sometimes people cherry pick them to bolster
their argument, but it doesn't necessarily mean that the cherries
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they pick are the only cherries that can be picked.
It's far more complicated than just cardboard cut out black
or white thinking, and we've just kind of falling into that.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
That's yeah, it really is. That's true. Okay, So let's
then take apart one of the things that's on everybody's mind,
and the economy is tied to so many of the
things we talk about. Often the story lists being tied
to Trump one way or another, and that's true, but
the economy is tied to number two, to number three, certainly,
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maybe even to number six. Those things are all about
the economy and the terriff deal is what do they
lead to? And you asked the question, this is the
question who's paying for the tariffs? Where's that money coming
from and where is it going? So as you were
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saying that, I looked at some of the big companies,
this would be a great conversation. It is a great court.
This would be a four hour conversation. And looking at
the prices that are going up Hershey, for example, this week,
Procter and Gamble, among the best known names, Bowdy paper towels,
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peanut butter cups from Reese's cliff bars. All of those
prices have gone up this week because earnings have gone
down in these companies and they're due to hire tariffs.
So maybe that tells you where who's paying. If the
earnings are down, the companies have to must be paying
(22:38):
for the tariffs, and they're going to pass that along
to the ps.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
Companies are paying the tariffs. And yet I was reading
an article in CNN last night what you need to
know about the tariffs? Like, who the hell is CNN?
And I don't know this is a criticism of them,
but what you need to know? They figured this out
about the tariffs. And I'm reading it and I'm saying
to myself, make believe, Michael that you don't know anything
(23:05):
about this tariff thing. What are you gleaning from this article?
And I would believe by the murkiness of the way
it was written, And it was a long article, had
many articles under the umbrella of what you need to
know about the tariffs, one would get the impression reading
CNN that the tariffs are being paid for by the
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countries that we're putting the tariffs on and that's not true.
Or if it is true, and what did did they
change the rules? Did they change the definition of the
word tariff? In the last two weeks this has been
this has been a pet peeve of mine throughout this
whole last year of the election cycle and now the
(23:47):
post election. Why do people not understand what a tariff is?
And why does the news not report it accurately? This
is this is insane. Doug.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Yeah, I'm back to the truth and facts, and they
look at the But the other side of it is
people say, well, and they're right, look at the stock market.
It's going banana as well is the average But then
somebody would say, if they're a detractor, is it benefiting me?
The average person is benefiting yes or no from the
fact that the stock market is doing as well as
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it's doing.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
Kind of answer, well, there are always people that gain
from bad news. You see. The whole funny thing about
an economy is there's no one factor that is good
news or bad news for the whole country. There are
people that lie in wait for the stock market to
crash for buying opportunities. Sure that this happens in real estate.
I'm sure it happens in agriculture.
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we understand the continuation of the war the Russians and
(26:58):
the Ukrainians and what people are wondering because there's tension
apparently building, Michael, between Putin and Trump. And you know,
the last thing you heard from Putin was the continued
threats will equal will lead us to war. So what
do we take away from that? What's the good conversation?
(27:19):
What's the important conversation there?
Speaker 4 (27:21):
Well, I mean, that's a conversation that could dominate the
entire genre twenty four hours a day. From my perspective,
Trump is suddenly waking up to the fact that Vladimir
Putin is not another one of the New York real
estate moguls that he deals with. That he's operating on
(27:42):
a whole different plane of skulduggery, backstabbing, lying, and viciousness.
And I think that Trump is a pragmatic man. When
ultimately push comes to shove, it's sort of the flip
side of the taco thing. He doesn't chicken out. He
just changes his position and for what suits his needs.
I think, do you think that's.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
The case with all of these things?
Speaker 4 (28:05):
When he talks Trump is I think, no matter what
the issue is, I I think I don't think Trump
operates on any core value other than pragmatism. And and
I think that Trump will turn on Putin in a dime. Uh.
There's there's the there's the lingering theory that Putin has
stuff on Trump and and and and Trump is trying
(28:27):
to figure out how does he get past this next obstacle,
obstacle of Putin revealing stuff on Trump and stuff.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Like Epstein and that sort of thing, right right, right.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
Right, Trump is hostage to his past and and and
he's trying to figure it out. But does just does
Trump love Putin or love Russian? Now he just Trump figued.
Trump figures Russia is a good ally to have because
they're powerful and between the two of us. Trump figures
the US and the and the and in Russia can
(29:01):
dominate marketplaces and make money. Everything is about money with
Trump deals. I mean, we're already in World War three.
Who thought it was going to be a trade war?
In some ways we're lucky, you know, it's he declared
war in the world, But in twenty twenty five, it's
trade war in tariffs as opposed to marching tanks into Poland.
(29:26):
That's a hundred years ago.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Where we've often said that that's not the war it's
going to be algorithms, and it's gonna be computers, and
it's yeah, it's not gonna be anything that I think.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
I think Trump is actually suited for this. He's the
man of the hour. It's just that we got to
hope he doesn't do something stupid.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
So okay, let's go one step further than that. Does
that mean and do we talk about this and sort
of encapsulated the news talk way that the people that
he's brought to the surface, the people that he's brought
in to run the country with him. I guess I'm
thinking about you look at any number of people, but
I'm looking at Brendan Carr, who is the chairman of
(30:07):
the FCC. He's entirely different than anybody that I can
remember being in there. As to feature story about him
in the latest issue of Talkers magazine, get that at
Talkers dot com. You look at these people and you wonder,
you know, many of the people that have been in
office before, we've heard of most of the people that
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are with Trump, nobody's.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
Ever heard of. Right, Trump wants Trump wants yes men
so that he can run everything. It's obvious he wants
to run everything. The way he ultimately was in the
Trump organization. He's one of those micro managers. He wants
to run the country. So what better way to run
the country than to put people that are incompetent in
charge of all of the different places that he on
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his first term had to deal with, get a deal
with people saying no. Now he doesn't have to deal
with that. That's why they are a bunch of dose.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
They are all right, well, you haven't, folks, an interesting
overview as usual every week we're here at your service
and on your side and the Talk radio Countdown Show, the.
Speaker 5 (31:07):
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We're counting down what America is talking about. The Talk
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Talk radio Countdown.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
All right, Stephen JJ Wiseman joins us here on the
Talk Radio Countdown Show with his significant contributions based mainly
on his background as a lawyer, professor of law, longtime practitioner.
So we have at least three things on the list
of five and five is ten, LUs three or seven?
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I'm doing math instead of focusing on the issues of
the day. Number five this week the colleges who settle
up with Trump that certainly has legal as all kinds
of ramifications. But how in the world does Trump get
away with the stuff? That's what people are asking who
don't know.
Speaker 6 (32:12):
Yeah, which is a good question. You know, the word
extortion comes to mind. You know, the federal government has
always managed to get its way with what they call
the power of the purse. You know, when the states
had the right to determine what the legal drinking age
was in every state, but then the federal government said,
just what, you don't get any highway funds unless you
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make your drinking age twenty one. And that's what's happening here.
So many of these colleges are dependent upon grants from
the federal government. They are also dependent upon right now
with colleges foreign students, and this is all controlled by
the federal government, and Congress has kind of, you know,
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given up its authority there. So it is Trump and
you know, he says he's doing this because he needs
to eliminate the evils of diversity, which is a whole
other issue, and to combat anti Semitism about which is
just an easy thing for him to make as a claim.
But the bottom line is these schools, rather than go
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into protracted litigation, which would be problematic and take a
long time. They're caving and it all comes down to
the money. And so what's going to happen is we're
going to have schools that are not going to be
teaching based on education. They're going to be teaching based
on indoctrination. And it's a really, really terrible, terrible event
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that we're seen.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Yeah, well it has to do Michael Harrison and I
were talking about this before you came on, the essence
of Trump wanting to manage everything himself, and that's why
he puts some of the people in place that we
never heard of, because he wants to make sure that
nobody's going down the wrong path. They want to go
down his path, or you don't survive in the job.
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So number seven and the.
Speaker 6 (34:07):
People that aren't even qualified, that's the thing, you know,
put qualified people in there, but they're not experienced. All
they have is loyalty to Trump.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Yep, Okay, Number seven. The ice rays this week and
what's going on I was talking about in relationship to farming, agriculture,
to the food that we eat, what we're paying for food.
There's a double whammy going on here because the people
who pick the crops like it or not. That's not
the debate whether it ought to be the way that
it is, but the fact is that it is the
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way it is. And so we're losing crops left and
right because the government's coming in and taking these people away.
And there's still are questions in certain circumstances about the
validity of the people who are being picked up.
Speaker 6 (34:51):
Yeah, totally. You know, you can go back to the
campaign promises and that the country was being invaded by
murderers and rapists and gang mem and apparently they're all
the murderers, rapers and gang members are working in hotels
and in agriculture. I mean, it's ridiculous. I mean last
week a police officer was arrested under this. It has
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just become another appeal to a base. And frankly, I
think even the base is recognizing that, yeah, our immigration
needs reform, but the idea we misses the fact that,
as you said, we need these workers. Quite frankly, they
contribute and pay into social Security, which they don't even.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Claim, right exactly. All right, quick comment on the redistricting map,
the legality of what's going on in Texas that brings
five more Republicans into focus or chances for Republican districts.
Speaker 6 (35:49):
You know, this is a this is kind of a
going back to there were certain redistricts that were done
by various political parties who were in control of state legislatures,
and the Republicans will try and read district to make
it more likely that they would win. The Democrats would
do the same. Then there were issues of taking away
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a black participation, and that's now being challenged in Texas.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
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keeping on. And that's the start that it makes so
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Stephen JJ Wiseman, who is professor at Bentley University in
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Counting down what America is talking about. Welcome to the
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All across America Talk radio at the voices of freedom.
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Don't stop talking, don't stop sharing, don't stop laughing, don't
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Speaker 1 (01:25):
Do not stop hearing. That's the most important part. The
lyric line there is all very important, but that's a
very important lyric line from Gunhill Road. Michael Harrison. I'm
DEEG Stephan here with aforementioned to Michael Harrison, who's the
editor and publisher of Talkers Magazine, among many other things
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to his credit over the years. We here now are
set to go through the story list and the people
list has called through the efforts of the staff at
Talkers Magazine, find out what the big story is the
news talk this past week and the people who are
part of that, and as usual, neither of us have
much to say. This will be a quiet hour in peace.
(02:10):
It's very important versus to have calm in our lives
around all of the mayhem that is a part of
living in America today. Michael, So you can be cool, calm,
collected here we go through that.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Yes, be very quiet, please, We're gonna have quiet on
a talk show that should be interesting. We may home
a tune here or there. So basically, here are the
ten biggest stories of conversation topics of conversation on news
talk stations just like the one you're listening to, folks
right now. There are others around the country that share
this view of the world and a way of expressing
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it called news talk radio at number ten. The deadly
New York City shooting at number nine, The Russia Ukraine
War at number eight. The Texas the Texas redistricting map,
Ice raids are at number seven. US China trade negotiations
are at six. The colleges settle up with Trump at five.
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At number four, the spotlight is back on Gaza and
the Gaza humanitarian crisis. They fed interest rates policy is
at number three. At number two the tariff deals Trump
is announced as tariffs for the world, and at number one,
the Epstein Files continues to be the story that dogs
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Donald Trump. On the people list, we have Shane Tamura
or Tamara the Gunman in New York at number ten,
Vladimir Putin at nine, Mike Johnson at eight. Number seven
is Benjamin at YAO six is Jerome Powell. We have
the dynamic duo of Barack Obama and Joe Biden at
number five. Number four all by himself up there Bill Clinton,
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Gilaine Maxwell, a true right hand woman at number three
at number two, Jeffrey Epstein number one, Donald Trump, Jeffrey
Epstein up there at number two from the grave. And
it's been another It's been another week, and here we
are on the weekend, summoning it all up.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Number seven. This week the ice arraids the ice agents
who rated a meatpacking plant in Nebraska this week took
one half of the staff at this company. The company
said that they had been since the last hiring process
for them, which was four years ago, verified every hire
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or tried to production at this meatpacking plant is now
off by seventy percent. So my question to all of
you who are in the same mindset as I am,
and maybe Michael, is the support we have for protecting
our country, beefing up at our borders, et cetera, et cetera,
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not letting people in. Is this story and so many
other stories that have repeated themselves this week on the
ice side of things, is that serving America this particular
circumstance has repeated itself. I'm a farmer. I'm in the
egg business in addition to being in the broadcasting business,
so I follow these stories very closely in the various
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trades and with my friends who have gone through this,
not to the extent that this particular meatpacking plant went through.
But business is off pretty much everywhere in agriculture in America.
And the best example I come up with a practical example, Michael,
is the cost of beef, buying a steak, buying a hamburger,
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buying anything that is pork or chicken. All of the
prices have gone up because there's a short supply. And
do you ever wonder why we are in the Circuman?
Are you thinking when you go to the store, you
go to the butcher's shop, or you go to your
nearby farm and you can't get stuff? Why is that?
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Is there a conspiracy here to do just the opposite
of making America great again? Would be the question that
I would ask. With all of the border closings and stuff. Yep,
that's good, but as a result of the actions of
the government, we are paying way more for our food.
And wasn't the promise during the election that we're going
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to cut the cost of the food, the cost of
buying the various essentials that we need, And in fact
that's not the case. It's not even close to being
the case in this circumstance, and most of it is
because of the actions of the government to purge use
of people who they say shouldn't be here. I don't
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want to be the person who decides who's going to
stay and who's not going to stay. But I know
I've talked to a lot of people who are farmers, Michael,
and they have said that there are ways the government,
some of the agents have suggested that they wish they
could just bring some sort of a let's bring a van,
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a portable van to these farms and at least sign
people up to get them on the way to the
green card, so we continue to harvest. I read and
I talked about this on the American Family Farmer Show
this week. Story especially from the Northwest where cherries are
all rotting because most of the people that pick the
cherries has to be done by hand, have been taken away.
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How is this serving America? How is this making America
great again? Would be my question.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Now, that's a good question, and you you basically answered
it by saying it's not that there's not enough coordination
and a big picture, thinking that there's a small picture
in real time as opposed to mapping out a strategy
of time and actions that doesn't cause immediate damage, that
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keeps the wheels turning, keeps momentum going, but aims the
nation in a direction where control can eventually be acquired
over the immigration process, which is in need of reform.
But to go and upend families, to upend businesses, to
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create unconstitutional thinking, and to really make people suffer on
all ends of the equation is not necessarily the best
way that this could be done. Well.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
It's a wipeout for a lot of these farmers who
have seasonal and very specific forms of growing produce, and
what they have is limited to the season. For example,
peaches need to be picked right now. Cherries were actually
whether they were in season a month or so ago,
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and we're in now. If you go to the store
and you get sherry's, none of are from America, they're
from elsewhere. And you can say the same almost across
the board. The beef that we're eating now, most of
us coming from Brazil and Chili. It's not coming from America.
And so what do we The ripple effect is like,
we're not thinking this through. And you listen to the
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people like the lady who's the head of the USDA
that says we're going to fix all of this. Okay,
when and how are you gonna? Are we gonna all
half of us be gone? Because farmers teeter on the
edge all the time. There's never enough money to pay
all of the bills, and so without a crop this season,
for many of these people, it'll be the end. It's
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not just a it's not a problem for this year.
It's the end. So again, one would wonder what the
real story is here and why we are really doing
some of these things. And remember, the real issues are
over here on the left side. And I don't mean
this politically, but over here there's this distractions okay, Epstein
(10:01):
and tariffs and Gaza and you know it's it's it's
really pretty amazing.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
Aza is not a distraction, Epstein. I mean there's a
distraction if you if you think that Trump should just
be given a pass on this. Uh, they all connect,
they all relate, And you know, I don't know, do
you think there's a conspiracy to make America ungreat for
some nefarious reason that I don't know.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
I don't trust the leadership. I don't I don't trust
the people who we have entrusted to do things because
they're not using their heads. They're not planning, they're not
figuring out how to do this better. They're just you know,
Trump has been forever pulling it out of his butt. Okay,
so that's the way it worked in business. This is
not really business. It is the business.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
But he claims, but he claims that this is what
people voted overwhelmingly for. They want him to do this.
Look at how productive he has been. Look At how
many you know, rotten foreigners have been thrown out of
the country. Yeah, a statistics or research or proof or
due prossas. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
It's in the same of the tariffs. Where's the money going?
Speaker 4 (11:18):
But that I still I don't understand why the tariffs
are being covered by the news the way they're being covered.
I don't know. If I'm almost afraid there's something about
this I might not know, And I don't want to
make a fool of myself. Do I not understand what
a tariff is? Why? I really am doubting my own
sanity reading the gas lighting that's being done in the
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mainstream media about tariffs. Who is paying these who is
paying these tariffs. I ask innocently, where does the money
come from? Who is shelling out the money for the tariffs?
When they talk about this country's ten percent, that country's
twenty percent, this one's thirty who's paying that money to.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
The people who buy cars that are made in Europe?
That are tariffs? The people who are by when they say.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
So, when they say so, when they say when they
say the government is imposing a tariff on you know, Smithland,
let's make up a country. Does that mean that the
Smithland producers and importers have to pay it? Or the
American companies that are.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Buying they pay it and they passed the charges along
to the people that are buying. Who is they that
the companies were talking about? The companies in these countries
that are being charged whatever country it is.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
So the definition of tariff has changed in the last
couple of weeks. Well, that's it you have made, isn't
it the American is Isn't it the American importers. Aren't
it the American importers who are paying the tariffs, not
the people who are sending the stuff. The whole definition
has gone upside down. Think about what I'm saying. You
know we have a break coming up, obviously, but I
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just want I want to make sure that I'm not
crazy because it's not right. There's something. There's something wrong
here one of.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
The things that has come up. And it's always a question,
I think among those of us who are in the business,
maybe the insiders. We talk to the listeners who are
the reason we do the program, and they listen for
lots of reasons to lots of different programs and lots
of different ways of distribution of programs, And certainly in
the last few years, Michael, we've been impacted by the
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podcasts that have come from people that are all over
the place that make no mistake about it. Joe Rogan
is there to say he's doing a great job of
bringing people lots of things to think about. That's what
the podcast world is about, isn't it? Isn't Is that
what news talk is about in general? Give you something
to think about? What is? What do you? How do
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you perceive all these various elements.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
There's different subjects and there's different genres. When you mentioned dethroning,
it's changing every day. The measurement of online broadcasting is
a minute to minute thing. As opposed to you know,
let's wait for the Billboard charts to come out once
a week. You know, we're operating on a real time situation,
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and there are many generic modes of broadcasting. Not every
podcast is news talk, and not every podcast is in
terms of its timing, it's a distribution the same. For example,
the Midas Touch Network is often cited as beating Joe Rogan,
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but Joe Rogan is a podcast. The Midas Touch Network
is a network of podcasters. There is no Midas Touch podcast.
It's a network and it communicates to its audience via podcasts.
The main figure there is a filla by the name
of Ben Mysallas and he works seven days a week,
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twenty four hours a day that he just works constantly.
He's got two brothers and they have a number of
other podcasters that work with them. So that's a network
disguising as a podcast. Rogan is a podcast, and the
numbers are being tracked constantly. Every minute, the numbers are
different than they were the minute before, as opposed to
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back in the days when we put out our radio
and records charts it was once a week and Billboard
with the music once a week. Once a week it's
like every hour it changes. So have I clarified a
little bit of that in terms of the just chaos
that exists in the podcasting world. Plus, there's no one
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agency that everybody recognizes as being the authority on keeping tabs.
And then when you look at the algorithms that big
tech imposes on people, we don't even know if these
numbers are true. They certainly they certainly are massaged and
warped by the processes of big tech. I mean, YouTube
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has complete control over whether your podcast is going to
even be heard or seen by its audience based upon
its algorithms. So I look at this whole thing about
who the champion podcaster is with a tremendous amount of
educated skepticism.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Well, I think that that's what we all ought to
be doing, is listening and having the application of skepticism
as it comes to you know, you say, somebody says
one thing about this person and whether he or she
appears in the letters or the Epstein files. And one
person says no, they're not there. Another person says yes,
(16:39):
they're there. So under that circumstance, how do you know
what to believe? How does anybody I used to refer
to it as truth decay and the whole business.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
We have a lot of truth decay. That's a great word.
As a matter of fact, up there with I think
Colbert came up with the term truthiness, which is a
great word.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
And to the people, to him and the people that
watch him, he's the truth. But yet you listen to
some of these other folks whose names we mentioned from
time to time, and they're the truth.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
People have their own truths. People have their own truths
based on whose shoes they're standing in. We should continue
with what is truth?
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Let's do that as we continue here on this week's
news talk radio over review of the news talk world.
It's the talk Radio Countdown, Show.
Speaker 5 (17:26):
Radio Countdown, don't stop talking.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
I'm Dug Stefan along with Michael Harrison, the editor and
publisher of Talkers Magazine. We're going over the information surrounding
the charts for this past week July twenty eighth to August. First,
Good Heavens. We could spend the rest of the program
talking about time and time flying and where it's going,
and where is the universe and why is the moon round?
(18:01):
And you know that kind of stuff, because that's something
that people. This is about conversation. This program is about
what's on the news talk in the news talk world
and the news talk stations and some of the clever,
creative folks. You're talking about things outside the political world,
even though it's not the main it's not the big deal.
(18:21):
The big deal are the stories that we're talking about,
and so we stick to those. And Michael brought up
something a few minutes ago about truth and facts, and
I remember talking to Rush about this once early on
in both of our careers, doing a syndicated program, what
was the difference between truth and facts? Because he always said,
and that's one of the things that attracted people to him,
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because he was so sure about the truth, or he
sounded like he was so sure about the truth, and
he was. He knew what his truth was, and he
appealed to people who also knew who there or what
their truth was. And that didn't always, you know, I
remember having this conversation with him when he smiled at
(19:04):
me when I asked him about the facts. It wasn't
that's not what our that's not what we were talking about.
We were talking about our truth and appealing to people's truths,
and that's why the separation began with him, I think, Michael,
and that's you know where it went. In fact, what
people's he realized intelligently. He's a genius obviously, look at
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the success he had. The truth is what people wanted.
Their truths is what they wanted to talk about. Are
here discussed. Not the facts. The facts are important. You
always say that to me, and I think that's one
of the things that separates us from maybe others. And
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if that's important, it may not be. But facts, yeah,
one of the facts. Let's not distort the facts that
sort of thing anyway.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
And there's not necessarily one set of facts. An argument
between two actions, uh facttions. It doesn't necessarily mean one
is right and one is wrong. It's an argument and
a negotiation between interests. Some people's interest lies in having
type borders. Other people's interests lie in having loose borders.
(20:18):
It's not that one is true and one is not true.
It has to do with what are your interests, what
are your business connections, how do you make a living,
how does it affect you? And an enlightened society is
one where there's respect for other people's point of view
because they're standing in different shoes. They have a different
(20:38):
point of view based upon their position in the game.
And then you're so, it isn't that one side is
right and one side is wrong. There's different different connections
to facts, and sometimes people cherry pick them to bolster
their argument, but it doesn't necessarily mean that the cherries
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they pick are the only cherries that can be picked.
It's far more complicated than just cardboard cut out black
or white thinking, and we've just kind of falling into that.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
That's yeah, it really is. That's true. Okay, So let's
then take apart one of the things that's on everybody's mind,
and the economy is tied to so many of the
things we talk about. Often the story lists being tied
to Trump one way or another, and that's true, but
the economy is tied to number two, to number three, certainly,
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maybe even to number six. Those things are all about
the economy and the terriff deal is what do they
lead to? And you asked the question, this is the
question who's paying for the tariffs? Where's that money coming
from and where is it going? So as you were
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saying that, I looked at some of the big companies,
this would be a great conversation. It is a great court.
This would be a four hour conversation. And looking at
the prices that are going up Hershey, for example, this week,
Procter and Gamble, among the best known names, Bowdy paper towels,
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peanut butter cups from Reese's cliff bars. All of those
prices have gone up this week because earnings have gone
down in these companies and they're due to hire tariffs.
So maybe that tells you where who's paying. If the
earnings are down, the companies have to must be paying
(22:38):
for the tariffs, and they're going to pass that along
to the ps.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
Companies are paying the tariffs. And yet I was reading
an article in CNN last night what you need to
know about the tariffs? Like, who the hell is CNN?
And I don't know this is a criticism of them,
but what you need to know? They figured this out
about the tariffs. And I'm reading it and I'm saying
to myself, make believe, Michael that you don't know anything
(23:05):
about this tariff thing. What are you gleaning from this article?
And I would believe by the murkiness of the way
it was written, And it was a long article, had
many articles under the umbrella of what you need to
know about the tariffs, one would get the impression reading
CNN that the tariffs are being paid for by the
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countries that we're putting the tariffs on and that's not true.
Or if it is true, and what did did they
change the rules? Did they change the definition of the
word tariff? In the last two weeks this has been
this has been a pet peeve of mine throughout this
whole last year of the election cycle and now the
(23:47):
post election. Why do people not understand what a tariff is?
And why does the news not report it accurately? This
is this is insane. Doug.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Yeah, I'm back to the truth and facts, and they
look at the But the other side of it is
people say, well, and they're right, look at the stock market.
It's going banana as well is the average But then
somebody would say, if they're a detractor, is it benefiting me?
The average person is benefiting yes or no from the
fact that the stock market is doing as well as
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it's doing.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
Kind of answer, well, there are always people that gain
from bad news. You see. The whole funny thing about
an economy is there's no one factor that is good
news or bad news for the whole country. There are
people that lie in wait for the stock market to
crash for buying opportunities. Sure that this happens in real estate.
I'm sure it happens in agriculture.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Billions, billions of Let's pause for a moment. I need
to give people something to think about when it comes
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we understand the continuation of the war the Russians and
(26:58):
the Ukrainians and what people are wondering because there's tension
apparently building, Michael, between Putin and Trump. And you know,
the last thing you heard from Putin was the continued
threats will equal will lead us to war. So what
do we take away from that? What's the good conversation?
(27:19):
What's the important conversation there?
Speaker 4 (27:21):
Well, I mean, that's a conversation that could dominate the
entire genre twenty four hours a day. From my perspective,
Trump is suddenly waking up to the fact that Vladimir
Putin is not another one of the New York real
estate moguls that he deals with. That he's operating on
(27:42):
a whole different plane of skulduggery, backstabbing, lying, and viciousness.
And I think that Trump is a pragmatic man. When
ultimately push comes to shove, it's sort of the flip
side of the taco thing. He doesn't chicken out. He
just changes his position and for what suits his needs.
I think, do you think that's.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
The case with all of these things?
Speaker 4 (28:05):
When he talks Trump is I think, no matter what
the issue is, I I think I don't think Trump
operates on any core value other than pragmatism. And and
I think that Trump will turn on Putin in a dime. Uh.
There's there's the there's the lingering theory that Putin has
stuff on Trump and and and and Trump is trying
(28:27):
to figure out how does he get past this next obstacle,
obstacle of Putin revealing stuff on Trump and stuff.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Like Epstein and that sort of thing, right right, right.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
Right, Trump is hostage to his past and and and
he's trying to figure it out. But does just does
Trump love Putin or love Russian? Now he just Trump figued.
Trump figures Russia is a good ally to have because
they're powerful and between the two of us. Trump figures
the US and the and the and in Russia can
(29:01):
dominate marketplaces and make money. Everything is about money with
Trump deals. I mean, we're already in World War three.
Who thought it was going to be a trade war?
In some ways we're lucky, you know, it's he declared
war in the world, But in twenty twenty five, it's
trade war in tariffs as opposed to marching tanks into Poland.
(29:26):
That's a hundred years ago.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Where we've often said that that's not the war it's
going to be algorithms, and it's gonna be computers, and
it's yeah, it's not gonna be anything that I think.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
I think Trump is actually suited for this. He's the
man of the hour. It's just that we got to
hope he doesn't do something stupid.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
So okay, let's go one step further than that. Does
that mean and do we talk about this and sort
of encapsulated the news talk way that the people that
he's brought to the surface, the people that he's brought
in to run the country with him. I guess I'm
thinking about you look at any number of people, but
I'm looking at Brendan Carr, who is the chairman of
(30:07):
the FCC. He's entirely different than anybody that I can
remember being in there. As to feature story about him
in the latest issue of Talkers magazine, get that at
Talkers dot com. You look at these people and you wonder,
you know, many of the people that have been in
office before, we've heard of most of the people that
(30:28):
are with Trump, nobody's.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
Ever heard of. Right, Trump wants Trump wants yes men
so that he can run everything. It's obvious he wants
to run everything. The way he ultimately was in the
Trump organization. He's one of those micro managers. He wants
to run the country. So what better way to run
the country than to put people that are incompetent in
charge of all of the different places that he on
(30:51):
his first term had to deal with, get a deal
with people saying no. Now he doesn't have to deal
with that. That's why they are a bunch of dose.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
They are all right, well, you haven't, folks, an interesting
overview as usual every week we're here at your service
and on your side and the Talk radio Countdown Show, the.
Speaker 5 (31:07):
Talk Radio Countdown.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
We're counting down what America is talking about. The Talk
radio Countdown Show continues the.
Speaker 5 (31:25):
Talk radio Countdown.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
All right, Stephen JJ Wiseman joins us here on the
Talk Radio Countdown Show with his significant contributions based mainly
on his background as a lawyer, professor of law, longtime practitioner.
So we have at least three things on the list
of five and five is ten, LUs three or seven?
(31:50):
I'm doing math instead of focusing on the issues of
the day. Number five this week the colleges who settle
up with Trump that certainly has legal as all kinds
of ramifications. But how in the world does Trump get
away with the stuff? That's what people are asking who
don't know.
Speaker 6 (32:12):
Yeah, which is a good question. You know, the word
extortion comes to mind. You know, the federal government has
always managed to get its way with what they call
the power of the purse. You know, when the states
had the right to determine what the legal drinking age
was in every state, but then the federal government said,
just what, you don't get any highway funds unless you
(32:32):
make your drinking age twenty one. And that's what's happening here.
So many of these colleges are dependent upon grants from
the federal government. They are also dependent upon right now
with colleges foreign students, and this is all controlled by
the federal government, and Congress has kind of, you know,
(32:54):
given up its authority there. So it is Trump and
you know, he says he's doing this because he needs
to eliminate the evils of diversity, which is a whole
other issue, and to combat anti Semitism about which is
just an easy thing for him to make as a claim.
But the bottom line is these schools, rather than go
(33:17):
into protracted litigation, which would be problematic and take a
long time. They're caving and it all comes down to
the money. And so what's going to happen is we're
going to have schools that are not going to be
teaching based on education. They're going to be teaching based
on indoctrination. And it's a really, really terrible, terrible event
(33:40):
that we're seen.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Yeah, well it has to do Michael Harrison and I
were talking about this before you came on, the essence
of Trump wanting to manage everything himself, and that's why
he puts some of the people in place that we
never heard of, because he wants to make sure that
nobody's going down the wrong path. They want to go
down his path, or you don't survive in the job.
(34:04):
So number seven and the.
Speaker 6 (34:07):
People that aren't even qualified, that's the thing, you know,
put qualified people in there, but they're not experienced. All
they have is loyalty to Trump.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Yep, Okay, Number seven. The ice rays this week and
what's going on I was talking about in relationship to farming, agriculture,
to the food that we eat, what we're paying for food.
There's a double whammy going on here because the people
who pick the crops like it or not. That's not
the debate whether it ought to be the way that
it is, but the fact is that it is the
(34:36):
way it is. And so we're losing crops left and
right because the government's coming in and taking these people away.
And there's still are questions in certain circumstances about the
validity of the people who are being picked up.
Speaker 6 (34:51):
Yeah, totally. You know, you can go back to the
campaign promises and that the country was being invaded by
murderers and rapists and gang mem and apparently they're all
the murderers, rapers and gang members are working in hotels
and in agriculture. I mean, it's ridiculous. I mean last
week a police officer was arrested under this. It has
(35:15):
just become another appeal to a base. And frankly, I
think even the base is recognizing that, yeah, our immigration
needs reform, but the idea we misses the fact that,
as you said, we need these workers. Quite frankly, they
contribute and pay into social Security, which they don't even.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Claim, right exactly. All right, quick comment on the redistricting map,
the legality of what's going on in Texas that brings
five more Republicans into focus or chances for Republican districts.
Speaker 6 (35:49):
You know, this is a this is kind of a
going back to there were certain redistricts that were done
by various political parties who were in control of state legislatures,
and the Republicans will try and read district to make
it more likely that they would win. The Democrats would
do the same. Then there were issues of taking away
(36:09):
a black participation, and that's now being challenged in Texas.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Right all right, Well, as the world turns, when it
is as the worm squirms, it keeps, it keeps, keeps on,
keeping on. And that's the start that it makes so
much value to the conversations we have here. Thanks to
Stephen JJ Wiseman, who is professor at Bentley University in
the Boston area. For decades and decades been one of
(36:36):
the great practitioners in the field. I'm Doug Stephan been
around for decades too, practitioning in this field called talk radio.
It's the News Talk Countdown, the Top Radio Countdown.
Speaker 5 (36:48):
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