Talkin’ Cowboys: Active… Enough?

Kyle Youmans, Patrik Walker, Isaiah Stanback, and Josh Rodriguez discuss Cowboys free agency moves, which signees will make the biggest impact this season, and the position of need to look for at Pick no. 12.

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Now your hosts Isaiah standback, Patrick Walker, Josh Rodriguez and
Kyle Yeomans.

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It's an Isaiah List edition of Talking Cowboys presented by
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Texas in the s WBC studios. Welcome in, everybody. We've
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to rock today with Patrick Noci Walker, Josh Rodriguez, Chris
Beam in the back on Kyle Yeomans and as I
say it's an Isaiah show, he pops in with his

(01:00):
Oakley's on his nose like the uncle at the barbecue
hanging out doing his own.

Speaker 5 (01:05):
He's coming and dropping a.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
Bomb like, let me tell y'all something.

Speaker 4 (01:08):
You understand me?

Speaker 1 (01:09):
Who decided to have construction right off the exit? That's
just a bad idea.

Speaker 4 (01:14):
It was a lot of construction with a lot of
construc To be fair, he sent us a photo he
let us. Know, Hey, look at where I was. You
could see the star in the background and you were
just stuck.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
In He does that?

Speaker 4 (01:25):
I don't know, man.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
I mean you come up one man to another major
freeway and is backlogged. Some of the construction understands that.
You're not used to it anymore. Being a citizen of Japan,
You've been out there so long. Dual citizenship is a
little it's awesome out there.

Speaker 4 (01:44):
You didn't take your helicopter like from Japan straight here.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
Listen that that's a long flight.

Speaker 5 (01:49):
Oh yeah, how long is that flight?

Speaker 1 (01:51):
It was thirteen and a half there and eleven and
a half back first class?

Speaker 2 (01:59):
You know how much of his class ticket and Japan,
And that's why you bought one and left your in
the back.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
Oh no, I didn't pull a Kyle uh to me?
You did this to me?

Speaker 6 (02:10):
Was no?

Speaker 1 (02:12):
I was sitting pretty much upright for the whole time.

Speaker 5 (02:16):
Oh, you didn't get your four centimeters of listen here.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
But I did have a good seat though. We're right
by the bathroom.

Speaker 4 (02:23):
So on a flight like that you need it.

Speaker 7 (02:26):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's crazy. You literally got back. When
did you get back?

Speaker 1 (02:30):
I don't remember last week.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
Sometimes last got some time because I think my clock
just like got reset last night.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
It took like my son is still jet like, well,
he flew in.

Speaker 7 (02:41):
He landed last night at like eleven thirty from from
well he had to connect the flight in New York.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
Okay, all right, so he left it and this is
where the jet lag comes in.

Speaker 5 (02:50):
So in Japan too, Yeah, yeah, yeah, y'all kind of yeah,
didn't see each other.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
No, I saw like two people that look spotted really easy,
real easy. Really was it hard? Brother? Now?

Speaker 7 (03:08):
But that's just like seriously, he left fright on Monday,
seven thirty pm Japanese time.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
You're in the future.

Speaker 7 (03:16):
Yeah, he landed in New York Monday at seven thirty
pm New York Times.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
Bro. Yeah, your Dan had to transfer to the connecting flight.
Kind of cool. You're you're living in the future the
whole time, like you're flying.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
When you're flying there, you're chasing let me see them
running back on my way back here. You're chasing the
sun on the way back over there. So we left
at night, but we literally chased the sun and got
here during the daytime. It's kind of weird, yeah, funky.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
Well, he's asleep right now.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
Yeah, bro, my kids, we've been waking up at one
o'clock in the morning, wide awake.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (03:48):
Just I'm sure that's interesting. But I'm glad you had
a great time.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
It was good time.

Speaker 4 (03:52):
I'm glad you're back. What did you miss while you
were back? I mean, I feel like it was coming on.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
Might have been a couple of things that happened along
the way.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
I promise you always I was on my phone like
this because it would be like twelve o'clock, you know,
or midnight whatever, and I'm like wide away. But that's
when all the nose is hidden. So I'm literally staying
up on all of the free agent stuff. I'm staying
up on how active of the Cowboys have been.

Speaker 4 (04:13):
Across the league. What's the most shocking news that you've
seen so far across the league?

Speaker 2 (04:19):
Tuns Will getting traded? Okay, yeah, yeah, that was I
mean we've talked about it.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
No, no, not at all.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
The thing is, like we've talked about it in the
past in terms of how aggressive Philadelphia has been in
the past, right, and how you know, how aggressive he
is just to be able to make some of these
the gall he has to make some of these phone calls.
I think that the commanders were just as aggressive in
regards to that, Like how do you call and say, yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
Give me that guy? Yeah, Like what is it gonna take?
I mean, you gotta be out of your mind, it's
going to take at least four picks? Okay, what four picks?

Speaker 4 (04:56):
Oh, so we're having a conversation about this, like there's
just certain p one of this league that you feel
are untouchable, and he was one of them, and yet
he was not untouchable, and they gave up a lot
for him, but that was it was that important to them.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
I don't know if I felt like Tuns at this
point in his career was untouchable. Yeah, I think I'm
kind of I don't think he's a starter.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
The time that what's the last time that that hall
has been given up for a player?

Speaker 7 (05:20):
Oh no, I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm saying I
don't think that he was untouchable. No, no, for sure,
I mean nobody's untouchable.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
Right, But when I started talking about an organization giving
up what was it second, third, fourth, fifth, Yeah, something.

Speaker 4 (05:32):
Like that for him, A couple this year, a couple
next year.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
Yeah, it was like two and two. Right, Yeah, it
was thick bruh.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
You hear about that stuff in basketball, right, but like
football doesn't happen a ten, it doesn't happen a tonet
lot might get two draft picks out of somebody.

Speaker 8 (05:48):
Four bro well, and I think a part of four
mid round, like like right, like early mid round.

Speaker 4 (05:53):
Yeah. The part of that is that Washington's looking at
their situation and they're ahead of schedule. When they were
rebuilding last year, they had all this cap room and
they were signing all these free agents out people across
the board. They were saying, Okay, we'll see if this
works out, but really we're going to try and build
for twenty six, twenty seven, twenty eight. But then they
go to an NFC title game. Your quarterback ends up

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being Jaden Daniels what he was as a rookie. Now
you can say, okay, maybe we don't need the draft
capital as much. Maybe because we're ahead of schedule, we
have a roster that's good enough to compete. Let's try
and shure up what we have and be better than
we were last year. And that's exactly what they did
with this. They said, you know what, maybe it isn't
overpay to go get a Laomy Tunsel. But at the
same time, it's going to sure up our left tackle spot.

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If he's healthy. He's still one of the top five
best tackles in football. And that's what you went and got.
And that's why it's going to take a lot, because
great tackles in football. This organization should tell you. They
don't grow on trees. They just don't come up out
of nowhere. So, yeah, I could see how that's shocking.
I think mine would still be Cincinnati cutting Hockinson or

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not Hockinson Hendrickson.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
Yeah, that's happened.

Speaker 4 (07:00):
Yet did it happen?

Speaker 1 (07:02):
Well, as of yesterday it still did not. They were
working on a contract. There's more working on the country.

Speaker 4 (07:06):
Okay, So then maybe not a shocking alf Maybe it
was shocking the Cincinnati humble man. Just the rumor itself
is I didn't realize that why would you not just
extend him? I didn't realize how productive he has been.
They I saw a stat this morning on one of
the media affiliates.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
Yeah, they were talking about I mean, yeah, he bought
last year, but when you look at the body of
work from the sacks over there since twenty twenty two.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
I think they showed it was he has more sacks
than Micah. Yeah, he's an animal.

Speaker 4 (07:34):
Yeah, he's a dude.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
He's like just below Miles Garrett.

Speaker 4 (07:37):
It's like Miles Garrett, him and Micah and Micah like
one other.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
Person in there.

Speaker 7 (07:41):
Speaking of Miles, that was the other blockbuster. You go
from demanding the trade and refuse to meet with the.

Speaker 5 (07:46):
Older, so we're gonna go try and with him.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
Super Cleveland, the big I didn't put my feet on
his couch. Yeah, yeah, I put my feet on his couch.

Speaker 4 (07:54):
But I think that's that plays that plays to say.
Edge rushers are premium and football. I mean that's part
of it. If you get one, pay him, you should
make him make it happen early. And and I think
there's there's something to be said about that within his
own organization. If hey, Miles Sanders or excuse me, Miles Garrett,
Miles Sanders, we'll talk about him at allment. Miles Garrett says, hey,

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we're gonna move on, We're gonna have this. I need
to be traded, and then Cleveland's like no, no, no, no,
no no no, let's work this out. Same thing with
now TJ.

Speaker 8 (08:24):
Out there, and excellent leverage on his part too to
write the letter thanking Cleveland to say, like I need
to get out of here, give me sure.

Speaker 4 (08:31):
I don't think it was a leverage pool though, Like
I don't believe I think he like he genuinely has
some kind of connection and and and I don't know
man honor with those guys.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
I mean, he he could have gotten that money from anybody.
So I don't think I believe him when it says
it was not about the money. He knows like I
can go anywhere somebody, They're gonna pay me what I want.
He genuinely wants to be in Cleveland.

Speaker 7 (08:55):
And the timing of his thank you letter was actually
much better than the timing of another veteran pass rusher,
but team Michael.

Speaker 4 (09:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
So yeah, there's that.

Speaker 4 (09:06):
Paying Jamar Chase out there, and sincey it's not gonna
be easy to pay Trey Hendrickson though, Like you're paying
Jamar Chase and T Hankins and now you're paying Hendrickson.
That's at the same time, that's.

Speaker 8 (09:15):
The biggest surprise for me is paying T Higgins on
the top of Jamar Jay.

Speaker 1 (09:18):
That is crazy for of their entire U.

Speaker 5 (09:24):
They did for three players, that's.

Speaker 4 (09:26):
Wild Burrough, Chase, and Higgins. Yes, and they've got to
pay Hendrickson. That's why they were trying to.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
Get rid of them.

Speaker 5 (09:33):
That's crazy.

Speaker 4 (09:34):
All right, let's get into Cowboys news and notes. Though
across the league a lot's been happening, but you could
say the same in house. I want to go through
the MC news.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
Pop it up for the Cowboys organization that because they've
been active for they've been doing for being.

Speaker 7 (09:50):
Active, Well, we'll discuss, we'll talk about the levelout.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
Yeah, but they've been active. We've asked for this and
we've gotten. If we received, I still want more everybody's got.
In comparison to last season, Yeah, in comparison every season.

Speaker 5 (10:08):
As applause, the last season, yeah, I.

Speaker 4 (10:10):
Mean there was there's that's a low bar that's been
set though, I mean I agree.

Speaker 8 (10:14):
So you're saying, but we were all saying last year
that this off season was going to be even worse,
even worse. Yeah, and that's has not been the case.
I think there's more of a fire there to get
things done.

Speaker 7 (10:26):
There's a healthy mix of well I don't know that
it's a healthy mix, but there's a mix.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
There will be. It will be healthy if we get more,
because I agree with you, I won't.

Speaker 7 (10:34):
But there is definitely a mix of deaf players and
some camp bodies that you're like, okay, but then they
handle business accordingly with a guy like Osa for example,
but then you hate that that you know, cost you
Jordan Lewis, but then you got Dante Fowler back stole
him back from the Washington Commanders.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
So there's this mix of like yay kay, no, yay.

Speaker 4 (10:58):
So it is it's an up and down. It's a
roller coaster. It's not as much of a roller coaster
that you know how like those roller coasters go into
the ground and there's like a tunnel that you go
into and it's just darkness. That's what the twenty four
off season was is you were in the darkness. Now
at least you're on like a weird spiral face.

Speaker 8 (11:14):
And this is just after Jerry Jones a couple of
weeks ago, after Zach Martin's retirement says we're not going
to be using free agency to fill any holes. I
think obviously you're seeing depth pieces in here that you
would not.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
Said this before.

Speaker 7 (11:29):
Jerry knows what he's doing when he says things, and
I don't know why why people consistently and continuous.

Speaker 4 (11:35):
So we said last week you believe them in the
all in why are you believing him when he says
nothing everything? I think I think when he said that,
I think we all noticed he was referring to like
big splashes. Yeah, like big money, which to this point
would still rain true.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
The rest.

Speaker 7 (11:51):
I think he was one of two things, which the
more likely thing is that he didn't want to show
his hand to others, exactly to free agents that were
out there or other teams that might bid against him
to say, oh, the Cowboys, there's actually going to be there's.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
Too many holes to feel to not address it. Agree
with free agency.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
So when he says that, I disregarded that aspect of
the comment point and I took it as we're not
going to spend big in free agency, which we know
in which we hold has always been true. So I
believe that portion of that statement right. And I think
two things could be true from the same statement. And
so when I hear Double Jay say, you know we're
not gonna address in a free agency, all I hear
is I'm not cutting the bag.

Speaker 4 (12:29):
So with that being said, I want to run down
these these free agent signings and then I want to
have a conversation for is it enough, because I'll argue
that they haven't filled any holes in free agency yet?
Oh none, any starting hole.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
Let's talk.

Speaker 4 (12:45):
But that's when I'm trying to talk. Disagree with that list,
we'll go yeah, go ahead and go down the list though.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
Wow, okay, so it's a lot.

Speaker 4 (12:52):
It is last week.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
It is a lot.

Speaker 5 (12:54):
Taking out anybody in there.

Speaker 7 (12:56):
I'm just going to go straight down. I'm gonna use it.
Do it now, go for the Jersey list. So Dante
Fowler one ye, Thomas, he was secure, he was a
r f A with security. Let's see Kayer Elim via trade,
Miles Sanders via free agency, Javonte Williams, Jack Sanborn, Kenneth
Murray via trade, uh, Robert Jones, Paris Campbell, Salomon Thomas,

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Peyton Turner, who am I forgetting? They resigned Rob Jones Williams,
I said, I did say Rob Jones. And as another note,
alongside Osa, they did extend Cavante Turpin on a three
year deal, which was also my chef kiss so sprink
a little key things like that, and so.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
Down the list. This is what I mean when I say.

Speaker 7 (13:40):
There are players that you'd love to see in this
free agency edition list. Dante Fowler. I can't love it enough.
I can't love it enough. And as much as he's
he's but I thought he.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
Was a d Q guy.

Speaker 4 (13:56):
Dude, he was a d Q since college, and I think.

Speaker 7 (14:00):
That he has a chip on his shoulder now against
d Q. That coming he made on Twitter about enough
with the disrespect. I can't take it anymore. And then
he defects from DQ and comes back to Dallas. I
think he's he's trying to prove it.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
He had his best year in like a long time.

Speaker 7 (14:16):
Yeah, something happening, and a half something happened in these
past few weeks up.

Speaker 5 (14:20):
There, his most year.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
But I think that that made him sense disrespected he
was with the Cowboys.

Speaker 7 (14:25):
I don't know if it's because he wants to be
the full time starter or pay is not commensurate. I
don't know, but he feels disrespected and keep that energy.
Paris Campbell being on the opposite side of the spectrum
when you talk about Paris Campbell met him yesterday. A
great guy, great family guy, had his family up here
with him. Fantastic looking family. You saw him as well, Coyle,

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and I'm all for fresh starts, but objectively speaking, when
you look at his resume, you have to wonder what
the contribution is versus the need. So this is why
I agree with Kyle in that I don't see that
Paris Campbe as we're having this conversation, did anything to
answer the.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
WR two question.

Speaker 7 (15:04):
No, okay, But I disagree with Kyle in the aspect
of I do see where Dante Fowler helps you with
the defensive end question.

Speaker 4 (15:10):
Oh, it helps you with the defensive end.

Speaker 7 (15:12):
Right, And then you talk about somebody like Jack Sanborne,
what is he he coming in and do Kenneth Murray?
He wants to be he wants to be the guy.
But okay, fine, so let's let's say Murray shows some
real things. Sure, I want to wholeheartedly believe Samborne is
going to be a problem for opposing offenses. So for me,
I think that fills the need, especially with demarve On

(15:33):
going to miss some a chunk of time. Put Merrist
at Green Dot, you let him work with Samborne. Sanborn
is basically as it stands here, Eric Kendrick's replacement. I
think Samborn feels a void. So for me, Dante Fowler,
Jack Samborne, I think those are the two that stand
out the most for me as far as the additions go.
And Solomon Thomas Solomon Thomas. I wrote a science lab

(15:54):
on Solomon Thomas. Go check that out on the dot com,
basically saying, why Osa is going to love Solomon Thomas.
Osa saw a career high in snaps last season, and
if you want him to remain arguably the most durable
guy and playing at that level right and playing at
that level, you're going to have to turn his stat now.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
And Solomon Thomas helps with that.

Speaker 7 (16:14):
So Thomas Fowler, Jack Samborne, for me, that's a three
pack of wins for me.

Speaker 5 (16:19):
What about Murray as far as starting, as far.

Speaker 7 (16:22):
As starting as we as we talk saying I think
that's the Sam Boyne Merriston. Then if you're going sell
package or you want to run.

Speaker 4 (16:30):
I completely disagree with, completely disagree. I think Sambourne instead
of being your let's take our first break. Okay, this
is where the conversation starts. I think they've made moves
that had helped, that have helped you up top for
a certain reason, I still think there's a lot left
uncovered and they're still working toward that, and it may

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Speaker 7 (19:16):
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Speaker 1 (19:26):
Man. He went and brought me a kekerot.

Speaker 4 (19:27):
How about that? He's even on your computer here too.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
Oh, they don't know. I don't know if y'all know.
I look at that every Yes, that's what literally engraved
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It's not a game. There you go, those who know.

Speaker 4 (19:41):
No. And Isaiah brought me these Oakleys. I don't know
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Speaker 1 (19:55):
Now.

Speaker 4 (19:55):
Glad to have Isaiah back because we can have conversations
about this team and kind of the player background too.
And I'm interested for you to hit the film on
what you see from these guys. And I know you're
trying to adjust back to real civilization, Western civilization on
this side of the globe. But when it comes to
the additions here, I like what they've done. Let me

(20:17):
preface with that. I like what they've done because they're
addressing depth and that's something they have really struggled with
in the past, and that's why an off season like
twenty twenty four hurts you as badly as it did.

Speaker 5 (20:27):
Oh All, You're doub's gone.

Speaker 4 (20:29):
You're relying on rookies, you're relying on undrafted free agents,
You're relying on guys that hadn't panned out previously to
finally pan out. And that's ultimately what helped be the
downfall in twenty twenty four. They're adding veteran presence, whether
it be a joke because they are multiple first round picks,
these five first round picks that they've added, I'm cool
with that because there's talent there, there's a communication aspect

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there that they've already had the conversations with these guys
back whenever they were possibilities in the NFL draft. Kenneth
Murray was a thirty visit. Peyton Turner was a piece,
a player of interest, a prospect of interest back in
his draft time too. I mean, all of these guys
were significant targets for the Cowboys. But when I look
up and down the depth chart right now, I don't

(21:14):
see one move other than Dante Faller Junior. Let me
preface with that, and Dante Fowler Junior is still going
to be a rotational edge rusher.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
Let's not.

Speaker 4 (21:23):
He's not taking snaps away from Micah Parsons. That's playing simple.
He's going to play opposite of Micah. It'll be a
conversation between him, Sam Williams and Marshawn neland those are
kind of the three other guys at the edge rusher spot.
Peyton Turner could possibly get in that rotation too. We'll
see what happens there. Rob Jones is a backup offensive lineman.
Kenneth Murray and Kyer Elam I think both have the

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best opportunity to start in terms of the defense, and
that's mostly because of the need at corner and because
of the need at linebacker, And both of those were trades,
they weren't free agent signings. So when I'm looking at
this list of guys in free agent signings, I like
what they've done, and I think they've addressed the back
half of the roster. But I need more that's gonna

(22:07):
be a possible starter up front. I need more that's
gonna be a definite starter up front. Like what are
we doing at the defensive tackle spot?

Speaker 1 (22:14):
Are we just cool with.

Speaker 4 (22:15):
Mazi Smith and osa igezu a running one and three? Again?
Maybe maybe they're cool with that. I don't know if
I'm cool with that. Is Jack Sambord, who's never had
more than sixty three tackles in his career sixty five tackles,
I think sixty five tackles in his career. Is he
gonna be your Eric Kendrick's replacement. I think he's more
of a Nick Vigial replacement. He's gonna play some secondhand linebacker.

(22:37):
He's gonna be a special team guy as well. He's
gonna play some snaps. Don't get me wrong, but he's
never been that guy. And just because he's had a
conversation with iber Flus previously doesn't necessarily give me the
confidence that he will continue to be that guy.

Speaker 5 (22:51):
You're hoping that the relationship with the coaching staff.

Speaker 4 (22:54):
Killbates the hedge of Yeah, Kenneth Murray has had two
seasons already of over one hundred tackles in his career.
I think there's a better chance, especially without the Marvin Overstrown,
that he's in that rotation at linebacker more so than
a Jack Sanborn. I'd love for those guys to kind
of share snaps. But that's the thing is, we're not
getting guys here that are saying I demand snaps. We're saying, oh,

(23:15):
they're going to share snaps here, Miles Sanders, Dravonte Williams. Yeah,
Rob Jones is going to be a backup. All of
these guys are depth.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
Who are we not expecting on day one of the
opening season.

Speaker 4 (23:29):
With injuries, Yeah, Marvin Overstrown, Diggs probably.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
That would be back.

Speaker 7 (23:35):
Deak told me unequivocally that he'll be ready for Yeah.
So basically big name, oh and less of a big
name but likely still Josh Josh Butler.

Speaker 4 (23:43):
Probably all injuries are you thinking and guys that have
Diggs is probably and.

Speaker 7 (23:50):
Likely Josh Butler as well. Those are the ones that
come to mind right now. And I mean speaking of
Trayvon and Josh Butler. This is where I agree with
Kyle again, what have you done to address the really
addressed to need at cornerback? Because I get Elam and
you want a first start with Elam and everything, But
for me, as far as moving the needle towards saying okay,

(24:12):
well that that problem is.

Speaker 4 (24:14):
Solved, who's your starting no.

Speaker 7 (24:15):
And problem is still not solved for me because Kayln
Carson is coming off the shoulder injury. He's expected to
be ready, but we don't know if he's going to
start training cap on.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
Puplisht or not, but we'll see.

Speaker 7 (24:24):
But even if he is healthy, he has to go
back through a rookie learning curve type deal because he
missed half the season and he had an up and
down season when he was on the field. You lose
Jordan Lewis. I cannot stress enough Isaiah. We talked about
this and I saw you lamenting online about it, just
that we were That was a massive loss and I

(24:47):
just hope the Cowboys don't find out the hard weight
just how big of a loss that was. But who's
feeling jay Lou's spot? No one right, So, right now,
as we have this conversation talking about cornerback, Trayvon is
likely to miss some time to start the season, and
you don't have a definitive boundary corner that you're ready
to start and say he can play even remotely close
to the level of Trayvon Diggs. And in addition to that,

(25:08):
a by the way, look inside and you don't know
what did jay Lou's successive situations look like.

Speaker 1 (25:13):
I think they're in dire straits.

Speaker 8 (25:14):
Because he's the best of Kaalen Carson either. I think
there's a chance for him, if he's back from his
shoulder injury, to give us one of.

Speaker 7 (25:22):
Those fair but then throw in, you know, Josh Butler
likely not being ready for week one. We'll see if
that's the case, but assume that he won't be again.
I think this cornerback room is in dire straits, which
is why moving to the draft portion of it, I
think that And we talked about this when we lost Jaylu.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
When the Cowboys lost Jailu.

Speaker 7 (25:39):
First thing I said it was, well, cornerback just became
part of the number twelve conversation, hun.

Speaker 5 (25:44):
Because Kyrie Elam does not solve your problem. Quarterback really doesn't.

Speaker 8 (25:48):
And even as far as durability goes, it's like he
hasn't been as durable through his short career so far.
Granted he's in a better scheme that a scheme that
fits better to his strengths.

Speaker 7 (25:58):
Yeah, his durability is going to be before you mentioned,
a few people have said it in the chat, and
clearly you guys have been following talking Cowboys a while
because we said it last week as well.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
You could help resolve that.

Speaker 7 (26:11):
You go and get a guy like a Santi Samuel, Yeah, example,
So we'll talk about in the next segment top three
gents available.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
We agree with you there.

Speaker 4 (26:18):
Do you guys have any insight as to why the
Cowboys opted not to sign jaylu.

Speaker 7 (26:22):
Back They just got out bid. Yeah, they wanted them,
they made the offer, they just got out bid. And
when you look at it from a Jay lou standpoint,
he's earned the most years that he can earn them
the contract. So if the Cowboys, I don't know the
specifics of the contract. I know it was a multi
year offer, but I don't know if it was three
or if it was two. Cowboys typically like their two's

(26:44):
and two year deals for cap management purposes, but as
far as the dollars are concerned, they got edged out
by the jab Boys.

Speaker 8 (26:50):
And Jordan Lewis even said in his press conference that
I can't take any more team friendly deals.

Speaker 5 (26:56):
Yeah, he's done that, he's done it, and he more
than deserving.

Speaker 7 (27:00):
It was time for him to get his bag and
I was hoping it was here highest paid nickel in
the league.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
Yeah, for like it was two hours game.

Speaker 4 (27:08):
But yeah, when he when he signed the dealer agreed
to the deal, he was the highest paid nicole in
the league.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
So him being going, I mean who you got? Who
you got?

Speaker 5 (27:17):
That hurts Bron sucks.

Speaker 1 (27:20):
I don't think.

Speaker 12 (27:20):
I don't know how.

Speaker 7 (27:22):
I don't know if the general that's as mistigable a
loss as retaining Osa is a win.

Speaker 8 (27:30):
And that was the question that we had coming into
the office. Earth, Yeah, which one, which one would you rather?
I was like, yes or Jordan Lewis.

Speaker 4 (27:38):
I asked the questions because I know it's a hypothetical,
but it could happen. And that's what happened.

Speaker 5 (27:43):
That's exactly what happened. Yeah, you had the opportunity to.

Speaker 4 (27:46):
We had that in like week sixteen. It was like
week sixteen or seventeen. The season wasn't even over yet,
and we were having that conversation and sure enough, and
I don't know if.

Speaker 5 (27:53):
It was a unanimous OSA, but I think I think.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
You were on.

Speaker 4 (27:57):
I was, yeah, you were J Lou, I was, I was.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
I mean, I like, but I was like J Lou,
there's less, there's less Jay losing there are, right, But.

Speaker 7 (28:08):
It would losing J Lou for me would have keeping
J Lou and losing OSA it would have had the
same level of to me because again, and we've had
this conversation, I built my defense from right. So you
lose an impact defensive tackle, especially considering you don't know
what Mazi's going to be this year and you talk

(28:29):
about you still need more bodies up front, lose OSA
and and see exactly what dire straits looks like.

Speaker 5 (28:38):
If you think the line is bad now as far
as like defending the run.

Speaker 7 (28:41):
Right, and that was you lose on top of that right,
and that means you would have lost OSA before you
ended up losing the Marcus Lawrence as well, like your
mind would be in shambles, right, losing J Lou.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
For me, it's I don't want to lose either. You
lost one. What can you lost? Inside?

Speaker 2 (28:57):
You lost your nickel and not just nickel. Yeah, you
lost arguably the best. Yeah, the arguably the nickel in
the league. He also can play outside. I agree, right,
and he is willing and able to have run support. Yeah,
they hear me what I'm saying, don't they don't make
them like that. I want it both, I hear losing
either one is a kicking the I.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
Think it's always more difficult for the Cowboys to fill
that void. Well, now you have cornerback.

Speaker 7 (29:23):
Going back to what Cale say, you got as far
as voids you need to be filled, you got cornerback,
huge void, wide receiver to still avoid defensive tackle. I
love adding Solomon Thomas as rotations.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
And huge void, huge void alongside Mazi at one tech void?

Speaker 4 (29:44):
Yeah? Who else is your one tech right now?

Speaker 1 (29:46):
Right? Is the running back problem solved now? Solt?

Speaker 2 (29:51):
You guys know where I stand on that. I am
perfectly fine with where the're at with running back right now?
You are, I'm perfectly fine with reiterate for those Yeah,
I didn't see you J yeah. So yeah, for the
people who were not pre Japan conversation, I was on
the court of there are a lot of very capable
running backs in the league. Yea that they As long

(30:13):
as you're not fumbling the rock and as long as
you're willing and able to block, you're a good running
back in this league.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
There's just a ton of them. There's a ton of them. Right,
we talked about Rico.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
Rico didn't have his opportunity, and then as soon as
he got his opportunity, boom, thousand yards. Right, And it
wasn't even a great offensive running year for the Cowboys,
and he still got a thousand yards. And everybody's gonna say, well,
it's easy to get a thousand yards now with seventeen games.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
Missed it sixteen He missed me with that conversation. Actually
did it in fifty Yeah, yes, so miss me with
the conversation.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
Rico got his opportunity, he bought out why because he's
a good running back, and just like there's a bunch
of good running backs in this league that just don't
get their opportunities. So I am okay with what the
Cowboys have done at the running back position. You have
a power running back. You have a you have a
Miles Sanders who hopefully can rekindle himself. You still got
deuce Von back there, and you still got Leak right,
So so you wouldn't draft run I.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
Know, No, I was never on board with that. Remember
I wanted a receiver. Oh no, I know, I'm heavy.
Yeah I was. I was.

Speaker 10 (31:11):
I was.

Speaker 4 (31:12):
I'm never unless you No, they're gonna draft for the Cowboys.
Let me let me you're still on running backs still,
I'm still on it, not for the voids that you have.
I'm still on I'm not only on it.

Speaker 1 (31:24):
Tit.

Speaker 4 (31:24):
They're going to draft running back, but maybe not at
I don't think they're gonna do it at twelve.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
No, what I'm saying is I'm not out on it. No,
I don't think too well, I mean fair, but if so,
just to be it's ast genty at twelve. Are you mad? Mad?

Speaker 4 (31:42):
No?

Speaker 1 (31:43):
I'm not mad. Are you bothered? Are you I am?
Let's not say that's the term I'm looking for. Are
you disappointed? That's a strong word.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
I I believe that if they picked Genty at twelve,
I think that you've missed out on the opportunity to
fill voids, probably because you don't have void at running back.

Speaker 4 (32:01):
But you would like to be better at running back.
You would like to be better at every position on
your team or your view, right, but you're not.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
You're not. It's not a void, right, you have actual voids.

Speaker 4 (32:10):
So where we address classify avoid wide receiver too. Okay,
so wide receiver two?

Speaker 1 (32:14):
What else?

Speaker 4 (32:15):
Is there anything else?

Speaker 1 (32:16):
Golden Corner?

Speaker 4 (32:16):
Yeah, Corner, absolutely, Yeah, Okay, you were just resigned some
guys that you're like, you're still waiting and they're in
the second contract.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
You come off of defensive end now that you got
Dante at twelve. Yeah, absolutely. I was never on board
with that that I agree with.

Speaker 7 (32:30):
Yeah, I come off of defensive end at twelve because
Dante's back free Dante. I was like, it was still
in the conversation. So I agree with you all that.

Speaker 4 (32:36):
I think it's still in the conversation. I love Dante
Feller Junior, but I still think, yeah, what they give.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
Him six, I think it gives you want more.

Speaker 4 (32:44):
It's a short deal and you don't know what the
situation is right this second, as we sit here on
March eighteenth, Year of Our Lord, twenty twenty five, then
you don't know what the situation is moving forward with Micah, and.

Speaker 8 (32:55):
You also saw what happened to your defensive line when
you lost crucial players at that posh.

Speaker 5 (33:00):
No, I think your defense is broken after that.

Speaker 7 (33:02):
They're going to foregoing conclusion. In my opinion, they're going
to draft a defensive end. I'm saying that I would
be with the return of Dante. I'm fine with it
if that becomes a second or third round situation.

Speaker 4 (33:13):
Instead of verse first. I still think there's a chance
they go first round with anyone across the table outside
of quarterback. Quarterbacks the one position where I'm like, no,
they're not doing it, doing what any other position they
could do it.

Speaker 7 (33:26):
I think why offense is going to take president because
I think if you look at these free agency additions,
it's been the bulk of it. It's been defense. Okay,
Offense is where you really have that void. So if
it were me, I'm looking at running back or wide
receiver as like my top two, and then I'm peeking
over at the cornerbacks to see who's there versus which.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
One of the one preference though you want to run
it back over the if the running back is gent
the running back has to be Gentiet.

Speaker 4 (33:52):
You don't like the Carolina running back Mary Hampton. I
love Hampton, not at twelve. He was mocked morning to
the Cowboys by at twelve. Yeah, okay, so he would
be rich for me?

Speaker 1 (34:03):
Right for Hampton, it's a trade back and get scenario.

Speaker 4 (34:06):
Or forty four. But I don't think you may oh right,
but no not.

Speaker 7 (34:09):
I'm not in on Hampton at twelve, but I am
one hundred percent in on Hampton after twelve. I'm one
hundred percent in on genty at twelve. But if gent
is gone and I'm talking Hampton later, if Ted McMillan,
for example, or Golden, I think Golden is a slight
trade back and get. But in that window, then I'm
looking at a tech McMillan, or I'm looking at a
Golden from Texas or something.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
Would you trade up for Travis Hunter?

Speaker 4 (34:31):
No, that's a lot of capital.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
Did I You'd have to answer that fest.

Speaker 5 (34:35):
Enough, But it kind of feels too is it?

Speaker 4 (34:38):
Two voids me? It's interesting and it would sell a
lot of jerseys, and I wouldn't. If you're talking about
a risk, you're talking about getting back to risky Jerry.
That's the type of risk A nice game. That's the
type of risk.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
You know what, That's what I would do. Kyle and
I talked about this. I think it was off the air.

Speaker 7 (34:58):
The beauty of Travis Hunter is he gives you two
positions and start two positions. The downside of that is
if he gets injured, you're down two positions.

Speaker 4 (35:06):
Where do you go? Yeah, you're down two players, down
two players. You know, like you kind of have to
head your bet with whoever's gonna end up with travel.

Speaker 1 (35:14):
Saying you gotta admit that's the case. If I go
up and get he's my He's my new Nickel. That's
that's what he is for me.

Speaker 4 (35:22):
And he he's gonna he will hop out a receiver,
but I'm gonna put the most athletic guy. He's gonna
lock down your slot. Yeah, that's what I'm doing there.
But that that Nickel.

Speaker 7 (35:31):
As you know that Nickel is the most physical of
the of the cornerback spots. Keeping in mind you need
him durable full wide receiver to duties that the wide.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
Receiver is a gift.

Speaker 5 (35:41):
Do you need him available a wide receiver because.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
He's a gift right now?

Speaker 5 (35:43):
Yeah, I mean if you're gonna trade up.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
Just talked about it being a huge void. So you're
going to trade up to get him. You need, yes,
like he has to help you at the w R
two like he has to.

Speaker 5 (35:54):
I don't think he plays w R two though I
really don't.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
Number one. Let's be clear.

Speaker 7 (35:57):
You think he's not coming to think because of the
call stick too, Alan, you want to hear my scenario?

Speaker 1 (36:02):
Okay, is Mossnaire good? Either?

Speaker 4 (36:03):
Go get let's get your Let's do your scenario after
the break. When we come back on Talking Cowboys, we'll
he'll we'll hear Isaiah's Travis Hunter scenario.

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you thinking, let's start just cook something up here.

Speaker 1 (38:44):
I got a couple of things.

Speaker 4 (38:45):
Okay, 's have some fun. Fun have you guys?

Speaker 2 (38:49):
If you guys want to stay at twelve, go get
a receiver, Go get it to go get a sure
thing wide receiver.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
And you know the receivers better than any.

Speaker 4 (38:56):
So you're if you're telling me you're draft and a
receiver at twelve. There three dames, okay, Teed McMillan Arizona,
that would be my number one name. Luther Burden out
of Missouri that would be my number two name, and
then number three would be Matthew Golden out of Texas.
That would be the three names at twelve. That could
be a possibility.

Speaker 1 (39:13):
There you go, So go grab your go grab your receiver.

Speaker 5 (39:16):
If you stay at twelve, and would you take all
of them at twelve?

Speaker 4 (39:19):
I would trade back for Burden or Golden if they
were the pick at twelve, I think I would be okay,
but I would rather try and trade back if it's McMillan.
If it's if it's McMillan picking.

Speaker 5 (39:31):
Yeah, McMillan's twelve if it's if nobody's come on, man, there's.

Speaker 4 (39:35):
Some some weird draft hullabluo right now that we're trying
to have to sort through. Is why is Teed McMillan
falling today? He was in twenty in both mel Kiper's
mock draft and in Daniel Jeremiah's mock draft. What is
that same spot?

Speaker 8 (39:51):
Is that one of the situations where it's like, oh,
this guy's just been consistent the whole way, maybe, and
now we're talking about it.

Speaker 4 (39:57):
He may end up at six to Las Vegas and
we don't even have a chance at him at twelve,
But right now, as it seems, it looks like there's
a chance he falls. Same kind of thing happened with
CD though, where it was like CD's far and away.
I mean, they had Jerry Judy, they had Henry Ruggs
in that draft, and there were a couple different options
there where you looked at it and said, there might
be a chance CD falls to seventeen, but it doesn't

(40:18):
look like that's gonna happen. Sure enough, he did. He
actually did fall. That hullabaloo was real, and then he
ended up at seventeen. Same kind of thing could happen,
and it's a lot less of a drop now for
Teed to fall to Dallas, I would be okay with Burden.
I would be okay with Golden. You're suring up your
wide receiver two spot, but I would rather trade back
and do the same thing.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
All right, So Kyle, you picked the number two receiver,
but number twelve grab a receiver. If you don't stay
at twelve and you want to get a little frisk kid, how.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
High do you have to go? You gotta go top three,
top three? Yeah, so privately top three, So I mean
pull a trigger off. I'm going to do it. Hey, listen, No,
I want to hear you. Okay, Yeah, so go get
you Travis Hunter and then sign. You gotta give up
some stuff. I don't know, y'all figure out who, but
you gotta give up.

Speaker 4 (41:03):
Give it to be probably to first in a second.

Speaker 7 (41:06):
Correct, Because the totality of the remaining remainder of your
picks this year, based upon the Jimmy Johnson value tart
only amounts to about before the trades only amount of
two about seven hundred and ninety let's say eight hundred
yeah points.

Speaker 1 (41:19):
Okay, you need to make up a three thousand point difference.

Speaker 4 (41:23):
That's a lot, which would be now.

Speaker 7 (41:26):
You're talking mortgageing your future, so you are talking multiple
first round pick everybody. Yeah so, and you might even
have to at this point, might even have to player.
So we say all this to say it's not happening.
But I want to hear.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
If you can go get you at Travis Huner. Either way,
I would still like them to decide. Keenan Allen like,
I still want them to do that. That's what I want.
If you're not going to get a solid Cup is gone.
That was my hope for not he went back home?

Speaker 4 (41:53):
My game, you want to go back never really interested?

Speaker 1 (41:56):
That's all good, But I think that he's a perfect
fit here, but not anymore especially so.

Speaker 5 (42:01):
But if Schefter tells you any different, I come on.

Speaker 4 (42:04):
That was a win for the local media, by the way,
because the local media was the whole time and they're like,
they're not interested in Cup. They're not interested in Cup,
they're not interested in Cup. And then Schefter took something
from an agent and was like, oh, they're interested in Cup.
Mystery team here they are. It's Seattle and Dallas. That
was a ploy to try and get more.

Speaker 1 (42:21):
I just say. They were like, we're not interested.

Speaker 4 (42:22):
Soon as I figured out that he was available, and
I was like, I hope that he comes to Dallas
because I think it's been a very long time since
DA's had a true possession receiver.

Speaker 5 (42:30):
It would have been fun, but the price was too high.

Speaker 1 (42:32):
Yeah, I get it, but but I would still like
for them to go get Keenan Allen.

Speaker 4 (42:36):
It's a possession guy.

Speaker 7 (42:38):
There are plenty of Coupboys fans who grew Can he run?
Give An Allen point, Keenan Allen point.

Speaker 4 (42:42):
Canny run. That's what I'm That's what I'm worried about.
Is Canny run.

Speaker 1 (42:47):
Well, that was that was the concern with with cup same.

Speaker 4 (42:51):
Thing, same thing, Canny run.

Speaker 1 (42:54):
I'm not draft one.

Speaker 4 (42:56):
Yeah, possibly, I think you're going to see I mean Dallas.

Speaker 7 (43:02):
I would insurance is good, which which to me if
you look at the running back position kind of circling
back to my where I where I differ from Isaiah
on the running back position is I don't feel like
it's solved completely.

Speaker 1 (43:17):
I do.

Speaker 7 (43:18):
I do believe they have insurance against what may or
may not happen in the draft first couple of rounds
insurance is a very good work, right, But if you look.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
At remind me what season it was. But I'm thinking
about twenty sixteen. Hell, what am I talking about?

Speaker 7 (43:33):
They had, you got Derren mcfatten, You went and got
Alfred Morris. You still had wasn't Randall? I believe Randall
was still on the roster at that time.

Speaker 13 (43:41):
Was he?

Speaker 1 (43:41):
I believe? So that was the final time, I believe you.
But nonetheless, they had plenty of.

Speaker 7 (43:48):
Veteran talent that could have had them say, you know
what we're not We're not using a premium pick on
a running back. And what they do fourth overall drafted
Ezekiel Elliott Ze.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
So when I'm looking at the addition of Miles Sanders
and Javonte Williams and yeah, they got Deuce, but he's
still unproving. They haven't shown they know how to use
him yet, much to our chagrin, but they just haven't.
Hunter Lipkey hasn't consistently been given the opportunities for us
to know what he can be. I just don't think
Javonte Williams and Miles Sanders editions turns them off of
an Astra Gente or even a Hampton. Maybe shortly after twelve,

(44:20):
we're in the second round.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
Whatever.

Speaker 7 (44:21):
I just I believe a premium pick is still in play.
And then afterwards they revisit the room, even if it's
not until training cap and just look at all those
guys and say, okay, go fight it out. Knowing the
draft pick is safe, knowing that Hunter Lipkey is safe,
I'll go ahead and stand on that hill. I believe
Hunter Lipky is safe. And then you look at Dus,
You look at Deuce Miles and Javonte, say, two of

(44:41):
you guys are staying.

Speaker 1 (44:42):
One of you guys are not keeping mind. Malik Davis
is also going to be in that mix as well.
I like.

Speaker 7 (44:48):
So, I just I don't feel like these moves put
them out, which means to me it is a void
still existing.

Speaker 4 (44:56):
I'm looking at my spreadsheet, my draft spreadsheet, and I've
got eight names. I'm not going to divulge which name
is which. But out of the eight names, six of
them have met formally with the Cowboys during the draft process.
Six of the eight running backs top eight running backs,
They're going to spend a pick on running back. It's

(45:16):
playing and simple, it's going to do. So you look
at it and I agree with Patrick here, you and
ce tennessee a couple of a couple of them are reported.
I know, I know they've reported the meeting with Hampton,
They've reported the meeting with Dylan.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
Sandon told us Yeah. Hampton was like straight up like yeah,
And Dylan Sanders told us is the same thing.

Speaker 4 (45:34):
So there's all these different elements here of you're you're
following the breadcrumbs. You're following where they're headed. They're headed
toward getting a running back in the first three rounds.
Whether that's a twelve, we'll see. But this is such
a deep running back class that I think they can
look at it and say, second round, third round, what
We're fine, especially since we've got that let's address corner,

(45:54):
let's address running back. I want to be the wide receiver,
let's address edge rusher at twelve.

Speaker 2 (45:58):
I want to be clear, I believe the Cowboys and
need to draft a running back. I believe that they
will draft a running back. I just don't want to
see it happen at twelve.

Speaker 4 (46:04):
I don't think it will. And the only caveat there
is Jastrin genty. He's the wild card if gent falls,
which I right now don't think he will. If he
falls to twelve, that's gonna be tough for them to
try and pass for which I get. I think gents
a generational type of talent that.

Speaker 1 (46:20):
Will be their CD LAMB.

Speaker 4 (46:22):
That's gonna be a super tough wild card decision if
he's there, which he likely won't be correct, so then
it's gonna If if he's not, they're turning somewhere else,
they're not gonna go.

Speaker 5 (46:32):
Then you just have to, I don't know, pick best
player available.

Speaker 4 (46:35):
Maybe he's good than me.

Speaker 1 (46:36):
Maybe just do like that.

Speaker 5 (46:37):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (46:38):
I like that.

Speaker 7 (46:38):
I know looking at Tip McMillan's pro date numbers yesterday,
that BPA is looking quite nice.

Speaker 4 (46:45):
You run a thirty eight yard dash? What did he
run in? He was four four five four six a
thirty nine yard dash. Got him a little got him
a little little extra. Trying to get him back up
those draft boards. That's gonna do it for us here
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