November 19, 2025 • 49 mins
Kyle Youmans, Patrik Walker, Isaiah Stanback, and Josh Rodriguez turn their focus to the Eagles as they preview how the Cowboys’ offense matches up against one of the league’s most structurally sound defenses. The unit has been rolling, but the crew breaks down which Cowboys weapon could be the key to keeping that rhythm against their fiercest rival.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
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This He's Talking Cowboys, springing live from.
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Take burgers here, let's dot Tis Teddy continentdown, and now.
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Your hosts Isaiah Standback, Patrick Walker, Josh Rodriguez and Kyle Yeomans.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
It's a Wonderful Wednesday edition of Talking Cowboys, presented by
Black Rifle Coffee Company, live from the Star in Frisco,
Texas and the s w b C Studio. Welcome in, everybody.
We've got the whole cast and crew ready for you
to rock today with Patrick Nosey Walker, Josh Rodriguez back
in the building. We've got Isaiah stand Back with Chris
Beam in the back of Kyle Yeoman. So glad you're
with us here on this wonderful Wednesday, which of course
(01:11):
is going to be our Cowboys offensive preview as they
get ready to take on the Philadelphia Eagles defense. I
like you sure, Patrick, I just realized that you got
one of those absolutely, where's mine?
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Fine?
Speaker 4 (01:25):
One?
Speaker 6 (01:26):
That's being he was.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
He was handing him out like dandy handing him out
like candy.
Speaker 7 (01:29):
And then he saw me and he's like, oh yeah, not.
Speaker 6 (01:32):
That we need to find one for everybody.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
I agree.
Speaker 6 (01:37):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
We're gonna have QB vision coming up in the next segment. Isaiah,
stand back. I saw you down in the training table
doing a little bit of film study.
Speaker 6 (01:46):
You saw me.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
I kind of like peeked around the corner.
Speaker 6 (01:49):
Freak you were down.
Speaker 7 (01:51):
Thankfully that's what was on your computer.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
It's giving and everybody sees me in there. I'll be
in there getting my study on, you know what I mean,
just perform it, trying to make sure that we make
our family is the smartest ones in the room, you.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Know, Isaiah.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
And instead of going to a coffee shop and studying
out in public, he just sits here and let's like
Dack walk in front of him.
Speaker 7 (02:10):
He's like that one muscle bound influencer. It's just like
this ten thousand.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
It's like those old, like eighties and ninety sitcoms where
someone's sitting at the computer, but it's not actually something
on the screen.
Speaker 6 (02:22):
It's like a piece It's like paper with some fines
on it. Right, bro.
Speaker 5 (02:27):
It's literally to the point now where all the coaches
will mclay's scouts, they all come back, or what are
we looking at today?
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Like?
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Now do you sew like sugarcoated?
Speaker 6 (02:36):
A little? Straight up?
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Yeah, we have some good conversations, not like, man, this
secondary has been trash ship.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
You haven't done anything this week?
Speaker 6 (02:44):
Now, Okay, he's playing the Firefox Dinosaur Snake on his Nokia.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Hey, what are we looking at today? And it's like
he's just playing Mario Kart like some I love it
all right, playing Gallagha.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
I'm back to Gallagher. I think your your microphones off there?
Speaker 7 (03:02):
Hello, I didn't touch it, beam, you didn't touch it
as low there touch there you go, and we're playing
Gallay building and now your microphone is just not one more?
Speaker 6 (03:11):
What the heck's wrong?
Speaker 3 (03:14):
If it's not one thing, it's the next thing. It's Grimlins, actually.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
The studio Grimlins. By the way, speaking of studios and
speaking of trolls. We got to reveal what happened this
last year because now that Josh is back.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
In the building, I have a bone to pick with you, sir.
Speaker 6 (03:33):
What you guys tricked us? The clapper.
Speaker 5 (03:38):
The fiasco that wasn't real, That was not real, and
I thought it was one I was pretty got you
pretty good.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
One thousand percent, and I thought, that's like the best practical,
practical joke you could pull on somebody armless.
Speaker 6 (03:55):
It was hilarious.
Speaker 7 (03:56):
Well, it started as an innocent way of doing it,
but Beam like took it to the next step because
we were just messing with Isaiah and then it did
the clap at the beginning of the episode and then
be changed it. I was like, okay, we're doing this.
Speaker 6 (04:07):
Then you kept the whole time.
Speaker 7 (04:09):
Yeah, no, if you're into improv at all, yes, it's yes.
And so I just kept going with it and uh, yeah,
we got you guys pretty good.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Here's when he started saying it changes cause like, oh crap,
I haven't.
Speaker 7 (04:21):
Yeah, but but that was the part because we never
talked about changing colors. I was like, no, so if
you say the color and then you clapp like, it
was hilariously and Beam and I were communicating the telepathy.
Speaker 6 (04:34):
Yeahs going here here was the tail.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
Eventually, this is where we started to think, like, probably
did an idea later in the episode when the timing
became off, so I figured it was like lights on
the back end of the episode. It was like clap, clap,
oh it didn't work. Clap clap, And it was because
Beamer was back to.
Speaker 8 (04:54):
Like, oh crap, I've forgotten the bit.
Speaker 6 (04:58):
No, I had to switch pages on there. I had
got them, dude. It was so funny. It was hilarious.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
My favorite part about it is Josh just like didn't
even say anything at the end, and then once we
all kind of got up, he goes, it's not real.
He just goes, it's not but the clapper the one too.
And I was even thinking in the middle of it,
I was like, I feel like that's gonna be problematic
at some point some show. Mickey Spagnola was going to
be like, I can't believe that, and then that's going
to change just like that, you know, Like I I
(05:28):
knew there was gonna be something there.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
But man, good job, well done. Of course number one.
I wanted to wait for you to get back in
the building.
Speaker 7 (05:35):
More improv for for talking cowboys.
Speaker 6 (05:38):
I love it.
Speaker 5 (05:38):
And also, now that you're back in the building this Friday,
we get to where our fanily.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Yes, we did hoodies.
Speaker 6 (05:43):
Hoodies.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Yeah, absolutely, all right, Pat, let's get into some news
and notes.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
Absolutely so, First and foremost, the cowboys did wave linebacker
Damone Clark form a fifth round pick. Damon Clark, I
mean he overcame the next fusion surgery, you know, to
avoid his rookie season being a red shirt year. He
came in when they really needed him in October of
that season because of injury at the position. He got
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off to a fast, hot start there. You know, the
potential was most certainly there, kind of thrived a bit,
he was up and down, but had some thriving moments
under DQ. But in the post Dan Quinn era, it's
just not worked out for the Mohne Clark Mike Zimmer
just did not find a way to utilize him. Things
looked very, very good and promising for him in this
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year's training camp he was ebra Flus. Yeah, he was
flying around, he was doing some things in training camp.
But then the season started and not unlike marys Lea File,
you know, just they got kind of pushed to the
back as the Jack Sanborn variable came in and that
was Eberflus's guy. And then now you add Logan Wilson
to the mix and de Moon Clark was already not
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getting utilized. So I'm surprised. I'm surprised that that was
the move instead of Sandborn. I do agree, because I
feel like I do. A key gives you more than
Sanborn gives you both agree the defense side and in
a special team special I do agree. So I don't
that move doesn't I don't understand if you're going to
make a move at that position. I don't understand why
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you would choose him versus.
Speaker 7 (07:13):
Could they make a move with Simmoorn being on IR?
Speaker 6 (07:16):
I want you to put dmon on Ir. Well, he
got that fingernail thing.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
That's what I was about to say. I was like,
hold on, we got to make something up there.
Speaker 6 (07:24):
You know what I think?
Speaker 5 (07:24):
I think, and this is from I mean, I've had
endless conversations with Demon from day one, him as a rookie,
through this entire process, as recently as Monday ahead of
the game, after the enactors came out, and he just
his spirits were as high as they could be, but
it just felt more and more like he was kind
of dejected with not getting the opportunities and frustrated. And
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then I think, more so what kind of fracture the
relationship between he and the organization, more than anything was
after what happened with him and Mike Zimmer as far
as just him not being able to get on the field.
Here comes either flu a linebacker's coach, you a little
bit more youthful, and then you know, da'mon is feeling like, okay,
here we are and then it doesn't happen that way,
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and it's so deflating and it's so defeating. And I
really think that Schattenheimer said it best when he said
that he told him On he was like, sometimes you know,
a fresh start somewhere else, it's just the best medicine. Now,
sometimes that's just political speak, but in this particular case,
actually do agree. I think Damon Clark needs a fresh
start somewhere else.
Speaker 7 (08:29):
But that was a pretty final uh word to have
on Damone Clark in his I guess his future here
in Dallas, Like that was a pretty definite thing for
Schottenheimer to say. I was surprised to hear him say
something so definitive in that, like his future is elsewhere
and not here with the Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Yeah, because he was waved in this scenario. He was
waved so he could be brought back to the practice squad.
Speaker 7 (08:51):
I don't but I don't think that's that's not going
to be especially after shot he's feels yesterday. But of course,
with all respect in the world to dmon and what he's.
Speaker 5 (08:59):
I think it's also because in that conversation, whatever however
that dialogue went, I think both sides understand that it
needs to end. So even if he were to clear waivers,
he's not interested in rejoining the press.
Speaker 6 (09:12):
So that's what I mean.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
Now with that, that frees up the spot that was
needed for you want you want some good news because
you do love your DTS. Perry and Winfrey is activated
from injured reserve. So now we're talking about a defensive
tackle rotations. Yeah, that's going from arguably the weakest up
against the cornerback position at a certain point, arguably the
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weakest position on the team, to arguably the strongest. So
walk with me now. So we got Quentinn Williams. Okay,
we got Kenny Clark. Those guys are pretty good. We
gotz oh, yeah, he's good. Got Solomon Thomas, Ad Perry
On Winfrey, and then you got the rookie J Toya,
who now gets to also get mentored by those guys
that I just mentioned.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Didn't J Toya? I have a sat Wait, no, that
was James Houston. James, come on, he pay too much
money to mix it. James Houston with j.
Speaker 6 (10:05):
Come on, Joe don't even look alike.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
But so yeah, So Perryon Winfrey, former All UFL team
guy leader in tackle tackles at UFL.
Speaker 6 (10:15):
We all know about his emotional.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
Roster edition, I should say, because when they were doing
the final roster cuts, he was under the belief that
he had been cut. He went to Schottenheimer and he's
very emotional and he's just like, ah, just give me
a shot, and the whole time they're looking at him like,
we didn't cut you. So it was turned out to
be a fun, powerful story for a guy who's worked
so hard to get to this point but then unfortunately
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got bit by the injury bug ends up on ir.
So whenever he does play this season, which now he will,
it will be his debut for the Cowboys at a
position of strength.
Speaker 6 (10:51):
Now, so that rotation is just nast.
Speaker 7 (10:53):
That's so exciting for me, especially coming off of that.
Was my guy tell me at a camp because I
was so excited for him to finally get on the
fifty three and I was in every facet. I was
like this guy's on my fifty three no matter what.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (11:06):
And to see him actually make the team and then
to not play any snaps and since then has been
tough to kind of like be on the cusp of
waiting for him to return. And then now that, like
you said that one of the strengths of your defense
is now the defensive line, the interior defensive line at
that I mean you had also digg Z with Quinn
Williams grade top five overall in your defensive is good
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over the entire league of last week?
Speaker 6 (11:31):
Did you guys know that seems good?
Speaker 3 (11:32):
It's pretty impressive.
Speaker 6 (11:33):
It seems good.
Speaker 7 (11:34):
Also, diggi zo graded out at a ninety point six
sounds good to me. Winning Williams graded out in ninety
point two best for two and four pff pff yeah, amazing.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
What's your what's your starting off starting defensive line? In
second string defensive line?
Speaker 1 (11:49):
You're talking about dtackles specifically or across the cross the board?
Speaker 6 (11:52):
Oh, so four and I got two ds for down linemen.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Yeah, I'm gonna go four.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Okay, Man's Clark and william on the inside. Will Yeah,
I'm throwing and probably so osa second string. I see
this is what I'm toy with.
Speaker 6 (12:12):
I would I would toy with Osa at at edge.
Speaker 7 (12:16):
I would throw him out there as a five me
that last week you wanted on the edge.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Yeah, he didn't really do a whole lot of you.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
Williamste is coming. It's coming along, Quinn Williams. And then
there's Kenny Clark both interchange between one and the three.
Speaker 6 (12:32):
Yeah. Yeah for me.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
Jadeveon Clowney, that's his run stopping ability and he's doing it.
He's doing a relatively good job at a pass rush.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
You can tell he's ramped up now. Yeah, he's he's
playing back to what you kind of wanted to see.
Speaker 6 (12:45):
And his football IQ is there, Yes, very much. It's incredible.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
So Jadevion Clowney is at one of the ends and
is playing at the five mm throw Osa five call
it quinnin at the one yet and he had the three?
All right, I'm sorry. Yeah, you guys are what I'm saying.
And then you have and then your second wave, your
second wave, Dante Fowler, Donovan Azeraku at the ends okay,
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interchangeable with James Houston. He rotate through there, and then
you have Perry on Winfrey and Solomon Thomas two words.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Hell, isn't it crazy that we were in training camp
and Josh, I give you credit for this. We were
talking about Perry On Winfrey coming off the street, signing
as a free agent and immediately being thrust into a
second or third spot on that defensive line. We didn't
know what Solomon Thomas was going to be.
Speaker 7 (13:40):
Of course you didn't know what j was, but you
didn't know how he was going to contribute in this defense.
Speaker 6 (13:44):
That age, right, And so.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
With all of that being said, now you're looking at
Perry On Winfrey as a fifth or sixth option on
your defensive interior as opposed to a second or a
third option.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
That shows just how much this entire group has.
Speaker 6 (13:59):
Grown healthy six months.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
It's unbelievable to class not even six months, it's more
like four months, and it's just completely revamped two.
Speaker 7 (14:09):
Weeks, you know, like you considered the trade being the
biggest piece of it all to really uh solidify that
defensive line.
Speaker 6 (14:16):
It's crazy and no snap, and that's what happened.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Any other news and nodes, Patrick.
Speaker 5 (14:22):
Yes, the Cowboys did wave h Wesley French from the
practice squad.
Speaker 6 (14:28):
He was a center. He's he'd only been here a
few weeks.
Speaker 5 (14:31):
He had arrived a couple of weeks or so before
the BI week, so no real traction there. They saw
they needed to see or didn't see what they wanted
to see, so they waved him uh. And then they
waved injured tight end John Stevens Junior, who was still
on IF so they waved injured him with a settlement.
So now John Stevens Junior, once he finishes getting back healthy,
he'll have an opportunity with another team. And I agree
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with you, Isaiah, I hate that the end came for
John Stevens Junior and the fashion in which it did.
Speaker 6 (14:59):
He just not stay healthy. His body just not work
with him.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
After such a promising rookie training camp in preseason first
two training camps for you would you would have loved
to see what he could have contributed to his Titans room,
But unfortunately, John Stevens Junior, he's no longer with the
Cowboys in any capacity. So John Stevens Junior, all I
can say is get healthy and go continue to pursue
your dream man, because the talent is absolutely there.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Ye just has to stay healthy, man, John Stephens Jr.
And then you talk about de Moon Clark. Those are
two really good dudes that that the Cowboys had to
move on from people and good people that were in
this locker room and that were very beneficial to the
locker room.
Speaker 5 (15:40):
I really hated for John Stevens because he doesn't get
the mentorship and coaching and development from London Wells anymore.
That's like it's one thing to have talent. Really, he
spoke very highly of very highly of him, and everybody
who comes into that room develops just one of the
most undervalued, from my perspective, one of the most undervalued
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position coaches in the league.
Speaker 6 (16:04):
I agree, and.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
There hasn't been enough of an emphasis they did almost losing.
Speaker 6 (16:09):
Hasn't been enough.
Speaker 5 (16:10):
But one of the only guys that came on position
of coaches in this league and developed by a hand
they held. They're holding onto him because of his the
work that he puts in into that room. So I
hate that John Stevens, even though he'll have other opportunities,
I highly doubt that he'll be able to go somewhere
where somebody cares as much as Linda does.
Speaker 7 (16:27):
Invaluable for sure, you can't really put a price on
what he's able to contribute, and uh, you saw that
more like you see the progression of like brevn svan
Ford and his blocking ability. We've talked about it so far,
and honestly, we're one of the only podcasts to really
bring him up on a pretty consistent basis because we
sort of see that. I mean, if you're watching tape,
you see what he's able to watch tape.
Speaker 6 (16:48):
We do on occasion.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
He plays so downhill. He's a big dude, a big
freaking dude.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
But the way that he has a nasty finish with
his blocking, you can you don't. You don't, I mean,
you can't teach that, but you have to want to.
He's doing that up himself, Like he wants that physicality,
he wants the smoke and I really did catch and
he can.
Speaker 7 (17:11):
Catch and his yards after catch. Man, Come on, don't like.
Speaker 5 (17:15):
Just a high talent, high ceiling guy whose body has
just been betraying him in his young NFL career.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
He's talking about John Stevens.
Speaker 6 (17:25):
Yeah, so that's what I mean.
Speaker 5 (17:26):
I'm really hoping that that, you know, he can stay
healthy and if he can stay healthy, if he lands
somewhere with the right type of coaching, Yeah, I hope
in a year or two from now, we're looking back
at it and we're saying that that's what we wanted
to see with the Cowboys. And of course it'll be
no one's fault. It's not a situation where all the
Cowboys gave up on him and he went and balled
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out somewhere else.
Speaker 6 (17:48):
Like no, no, no.
Speaker 5 (17:49):
For both of these guys, they gave them to give
him opportunities. He just could not stay healthy. And we're
not talking about talking about minor injuries either. We're talking
about to devastating injuries, right, you know what I mean.
Speaker 7 (17:59):
But I could see him like do really well on
a team like Baltimore or a team like the Patriots,
you know, like flourish. Really if he's given another.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Oportuityve got to be in the right spot. But stay healthy,
that's the other thing. Yeah, we'll figure that out. Speaking
of Philly, let's talk about the Philadelphia Eagles defense. QB
Vision is on the way. Isaiah Stanback's been breaking down
the film. He's going to tell you exactly what the
Cowboys offense is going to see in this matchup coming
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Speaker 1 (20:54):
I'm Kyle Yeoman's and I see this comment here for
the fifth member of our crew. Michael in the comments said, Bro, seriously,
every episode, I'm more convinced of Isaiah Standback being part
of the coaching staff of your Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
And then he put in parentheses he said, I like that.
Bring that wisdom, Bro. That's a good segue into a
little bit of some.
Speaker 6 (21:21):
Why Eddie, Why Eddie cut up?
Speaker 5 (21:25):
It's time for QB vision with Isaiah's Standback. Yeah, you know,
I hate that this has become the tradition. First of all,
shout out, appreciate the love. You won't find me in
any coaching rooms, unfortunately. I will stay on the media
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side to make sure.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
That's what all coaches say before they take a new coach.
Speaker 7 (21:48):
Yeah, you have a really big personality, You have lots
of love to give. You have listen, I need your
arms in many fires if you will.
Speaker 6 (21:56):
He's attested to my feminly.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
He sounds like Laye Kiff and that's what he sounds like.
That's what he wow sounds like. Oh I'm at old mess.
I'm not worried about.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
That Florida job or I'm not worried about that l
s U exactly. All right, I were getting to the
bottom of dB.
Speaker 6 (22:16):
Everybody's all right, all right, let's talk about it.
Speaker 5 (22:23):
We're about to play the Philadelphia Egles and Philadelphia Eagles.
We all understand that this is not the Las Vegas Raiders. Okay,
let's just keep it one hundred. And what were the
What were the Raiders? You said trash?
Speaker 3 (22:37):
And what are the Eagles not trash?
Speaker 5 (22:40):
I'd even recycled com post, not any of that stuff.
Listen to Eagles. The Eagles are good, man, Keep it
one hundred. I am looking forward to this matchup because
I think that this I think both of our teams
are built to beat each other.
Speaker 6 (22:56):
I truly believe that. I think that.
Speaker 5 (22:59):
That Howie Roseman and Double J are literally building their
rosters to compete with each other. I think they understand
that they are the two top dogs in this division,
and their rosters are indicative of that. It's no different
than than the Buffalo Bills building their roster to beat
the Ken City Chiefs.
Speaker 6 (23:18):
It just is what it is.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
You got to play these guys twice a year, and
in order to get to where you want to get,
you have to get past his team. So I think
that obviously what the Howie Roseman has done with his
roster defensively, Dallas has combat at that. They've invested a
ton into their defensive line. We've invested a ton into
our offensive line. They've had a lot of young talent
show up at the linebacker and secondary position.
Speaker 6 (23:42):
We've added a lot of talent there as well.
Speaker 5 (23:44):
Right, They've invested in Jake Ferguson, they invested in CD
and now hopefully George Piggins. They brought him in over
on the trade. He was there a week one when
we played them, and obviously hopefully he gets an extension here.
Speaker 6 (23:55):
But do it, they will do it. Probably won't be
the number he wants, but they'll do it.
Speaker 7 (24:00):
And mirror images in terms of receivers very much, drafting
a generational talent and then also trading for another guy
that you absolutely needed.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Because for them it was DeVante Smith was what first
rounder in twenty twenty one, and then aj Brown was
traded and then for US of course Ceede Lamb and
twenty twenty and George Pickens was traded so it's almost
like I.
Speaker 5 (24:21):
Like peaking as a home where quarterback point. I like
quarterbacks invested in tight ends. Both have seven touchdowns. Receivers
they're under Their receivers are under productive right now, but
they can still strike fire. But let's talk about this
defense all right. It starts with their defensive line. Defensive
line is nasty. Defensive line has been nasty. When Dallas
lost in Week one, they obviously lost their best player
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prior to the game.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
You don't think that'll happen again. You don't think we'll
get lucky.
Speaker 6 (24:46):
Like that getting a loogi. Bro, we're not even getting
a Jamar Chase Lugi on the lucky loogie.
Speaker 5 (24:51):
Yeah, we're not getting that. His presence was missed in
that game, Dallas. Yeah, not happening. Reflection, I think Dallas Tyler, right, Tyler,
I believe that Dallas had more success than they would
have had in Week one in the running game because
Jalen Carter was not present. I'm not taking anything away
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from our offensive line, but we know that Jalen Carter
is one of the best interior defense linemen in the league.
That's factuals true. He wasn't there because of his actions
he will be there.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Yes, you think he's ready for this game too?
Speaker 5 (25:28):
Yes, Jordan Davis will be there. Moro Jomo will be there.
Number ninety seven. Oh, and then there's a new guy
that they added. Who's that, Yeah, Jalen Phillips.
Speaker 6 (25:42):
Jalen Phillips.
Speaker 5 (25:43):
They have them listed as an outside linebacker because they
have it on the depth trod as a three to
four defense.
Speaker 6 (25:48):
He will be there, and he's a dude this defense.
Speaker 7 (25:51):
But we don't know him as much. Are you sure
he's a dude.
Speaker 5 (25:54):
He's a dude, and he has infused even more energy
into this defense. I truly believe that their front seven
is the best part of their defense. Their their defensive
linemen are all dangerous in their own right. Jalen Carter
is disruptive, Jordan Davis is hard to move. Moro is
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active and very physical.
Speaker 6 (26:17):
And now they have a true pass rusher that can
be disruptive. They didn't.
Speaker 5 (26:21):
They didn't have a disruptive pass rusher when we played
them in Week one. Now they do in Phillips. Jalen
Phillips is a disruptor. Number fifty. He'll be standing up
on the edge. I don't remember if he switches side,
but I know he'll be over Terrence Steele. So that
front line is something that you have to be concerned about.
I went back and I watched Week one. I loved
how intense Dallas played. Dallas played very physical. If this
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is a ball game that Dallas wants to win, you're
going to have to out physical.
Speaker 10 (26:51):
The Philadelphia Eagles are are. Yeah, listen, it's a hell
of a matchup.
Speaker 8 (27:01):
Man.
Speaker 5 (27:02):
I truly think that they probably have the best linebacker corps.
I think they probably have the best linebacker core in
the NFL. Wow, that's my last one.
Speaker 6 (27:13):
That's my opinion. They have the best line In my opinion,
they have the best linebacker cord in the NFL.
Speaker 7 (27:16):
And linebackers have been giving this sea many problems at the.
Speaker 6 (27:19):
Moment at the month. That's all I can speak to.
That's all I can speak to. Zach Bond is smart,
very smart, cerebral.
Speaker 5 (27:27):
This defensive line just for the same reasons why I
wanted Quinn Williams and Kenny Clark playing together. It's hard
to get up to those to that second level. So
when you're spending your time at the offensive line blocking
that you know those interior defensive linemen. Their linebackers don't
wait like they really don't wait like they their linebackers
react the way in which I wish that our linebackers
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had up until this point of the season. Yeah, when
a hole opens up, Zach Bond freaking hits it. He's going.
He's not waiting to see what happens. I'm not waiting
to see if he's gonna go on door A or
door B. He's taking whatever door opens, and and they're
playing off of that. They have Nikobe Dean, who I've
had the pleasure of.
Speaker 6 (28:04):
Meeting and talking to.
Speaker 5 (28:07):
Listen the same way that we speak about de Marveion
overshown in terms of his passion for the game, same
vibes I get from Nakcobe Dean that is correct. He
loves the game of football, correct, like genuinely like it,
like it's exuding off him, like it just it just radiates.
He's a dude. He'll be the one in the elbow brace.
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He's a he's he's athletic. He makes it very difficult.
I talked a lot about how how Jake Ferguson's going
to have to have a day for Dallas to be
successful offensively, where he's got to deal with Nikobe Dean,
and Nikobe Dean can run. You're not going to outrun him, right,
And he's he's going to be in your hip pocket.
You're gonna have to make contested catches. He's going to
be there, right, He's always going to be in the
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play Jaylyx Hunt fifty eight. He's he's a dude as well.
So frot seven is a problem. You got to meet
them head up right, take care of your business. You
were able to have success against some last time, do
it again, except this time you got a block ninety eight. Okay,
so tight ends were physical last time. I was very
impressed with with our guy Brefence spam Ford. He was
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very physical. Schoolmaker I was actually.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
I was about to say Scoomaker, I remember being really
physical and Schoolmaker was physical. So they were amped up
for week one and they utilized ferg a lot in
the in the passing game.
Speaker 6 (29:19):
Yes, the used him a lot.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
As a receiver in that game, and they kind of
had Schooonmaker as the physical rightforcer yep.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
And a lot of that allowed for Ferguson.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
To do what he did, which we were just talking
about yesterday, is something that you want to get back
to correct.
Speaker 5 (29:32):
So they listed as a three man front, but they'll
is really a four man front. They'll stand up Jalen Phillips.
He'll be like a kind of an in bicycle stance.
So I consider it a four man front. They can
call it three four all day long. It's four to three.
Let's go to the secondary. Secondary, solid physical, physical secondary.
I will say that I'm not sure that they're the
best cover guys in the league, but they're very physical.
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I can tell you one guy who does cover well
is Cooper Dejing, number thirty three. I like everything about him. Young, talented, physical, feisty,
right punching him out. He punked Jalen Tolbert the first
time we played him. I'm really hopeful that Jalen Tobert
gets some get back. He came down hill in the
screen game. Jalen Tolbert was supposed to be blocking and
just slapped him, just slapped him around. Ceedee Lamb had
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to come to Jalen Tolbert's defense, Dak Prescott had to
come to Jalen Tolber's defense. So I'm hoping that Jalen
Tolbert get some get back. Within the parameters of play
and don't hurt your team.
Speaker 6 (30:23):
Don't do that.
Speaker 5 (30:24):
So Cooper Degen's nice red Blanken ships one of the
better safeties in the league. I think he's just he's smart,
he's he's reactive. He goes sideline the sideline. Quinnon Mitchell,
I give him his respect. He's he's he's he's okay.
Speaker 6 (30:37):
I don't, I'm not. I know a lot of people
are high on him. I'm not.
Speaker 5 (30:40):
I don't think that they are put in a lot
of positions to play a lot of man to man coverage.
I think maybe twenty five percent or something like that.
I think they're more of his own team. They do
a really good job of hiding what it is that
they're doing in terms of their safety movement. It's very late,
it's big. Fan Gill's defenses are always disciplined. Dak Prescott
has success against Vic Fangio's defenses, but collectively as a team,
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he hasn't won much against him. I think he's one
in four you go, but he has done a good
job in terms of his statistical category against him, five touchdowns,
one interception. I believe so Dak has seen everything before.
These guys will try to bring pressure, but Dak does
handle pressure very well. Where I think these guys are weak,
trying to give you kind of a front to back
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type of overhaul. Here the middle of their field, it's
it's booty button naked, no huggies, just just go streaking
through the quad and the coliseum.
Speaker 6 (31:35):
It's the middle. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 5 (31:37):
You got three of them jokers running around the middle
of their field is open. It is so vacant that
that's why I feel like Jake Ferguson can have a day.
I mentioned Ceedee Lamb on his over routes.
Speaker 6 (31:50):
I mention.
Speaker 5 (31:52):
George Pickens on his deep en routes. Those are typically
the routes that those guys run. I hope that they
mix it up a little bit more so it's not
as predictable. They will cut your over routes, just like
we saw this past week. Yeah, where Ceede Lamb is
trying to run an over route the safety season he
drops down from a two high look to a one
high look to enter and intercede and prevent Ceedee Lamb
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from getting over. Okay, cool, But the end routes, the
slant routes, all those things, they're going to be contested.
But if you can catch it and you can make
one man miss the guy who's on your back, there's
a lot of yak yards to be had.
Speaker 6 (32:27):
And I really think that Dallas.
Speaker 5 (32:29):
Can expose Philadelphia in the passing game by taking advantage
of that vacant mental And I'm talking about like thirty
yards of vacancy here.
Speaker 6 (32:36):
Now I'm talking about a couple of yards. This is
like it's like the freaking Red Sea.
Speaker 5 (32:40):
But by doing that, guys have to win at the
line of scrimmage getting off the ball, and then you got.
Speaker 6 (32:45):
To be able to block it up. So Dak has
time when you look.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
At the middle of the field, and there are a
lot of Texas fans that watch this, so I know
a lot of people are going to ask about Andrew.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
Mccooba, the safety.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
What is he been tabbed with doing in this Vic
van Gel type of defense and in his system? And
how has he played to start the year as a
rookie safety.
Speaker 5 (33:05):
Yeah, they usually wrote him down to be like the
down safety. He'll start high again, they'll give a two man,
they'll give a two high look and then it'll be
like a late rotation, right, It'll be late sign yeah,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
I don't not a Texas fan. We're talking about Andrew.
Speaker 6 (33:21):
We didn't tell you. Congratulations, I'll being ranked by the way.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Oh yeah, thank you very much. Relation our college football. Man,
it's coming on on Friday with plenty, so.
Speaker 5 (33:28):
They do a lot of late rotations and they they'll
cut those guys. So what they're trying to do is
they play their safety is really deep. They really try
to get you to hold onto the ball.
Speaker 6 (33:35):
Right.
Speaker 5 (33:35):
We've seen this before. Denver did a really good job
about this. I've made everybody aware of what Denver did.
Denver brought pressure, though, I mean really counting on their
front seven to get home while you were sitting there
patting the ball, waiting for your guys to get beyond
their secondary.
Speaker 6 (33:49):
Don't try to get beyond their secondary. Ceede Lamb did
a really.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
Good job of it in Week one, but it was
off of double moves right Ceedee Lamb was able to
get him fake the end route, fake the post route,
getting the bite on it, and then break it back
out to the sideline.
Speaker 6 (34:00):
He had a lot of success versus them on that.
Speaker 5 (34:02):
George Pickens was able to get some some pass interference
calls because Dak had the time to sit back, pat
the ball a little bit and throw the ball down
the field and let George Pickens try to get it.
They held them. We got the ball all the way
moved to the goal line. So we have some success
in week one versus this defense. I'm not saying that
you can't beat this defense. I'm saying that they are
very vulnerable to get beat. But you have to protect
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and you have that afore the time.
Speaker 6 (34:26):
You have to have the time.
Speaker 5 (34:27):
Your guys can beat their guys. Our receivers are better
than their secondary. Our tight end can body up. I'm
not gonna say he's faster and can out rout them up,
but he can body up. You can get the ball
to Jay Ferguson on some plays across the middle twelve yards,
you know, fifteen yards whatever it is, but he's gonna
be it's gonna be a contested catch. Don't expect a
whole lot after it and catch, tackle, whatever. And then
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you have to be able to run the ball. If
you can run the.
Speaker 6 (34:50):
Ball effectively, you can control this game.
Speaker 5 (34:53):
It's gonna be competitive. You're gonna have your wins, you're
gonna have your losses. It's gonna be a freaking battle Royale.
But you can beat this defense up, you truly can.
You're gonna have to do it by having sustainable, long,
methodical drives and then when you get your shot, you
got to you gotta connect.
Speaker 7 (35:09):
I love what you're saying about Jake Ferguson and the
ability that he has to sort of take advantage over
the middle. And it's one of those things where, at
least for the Cowboys, if they're able to take advantage
of that early. The Eagles are smart enough, especially Vic Fangio,
to account for that. If they see the Dallas attack
in the middle, then they have to They are able
to and they will adjust. And you have to be
able to take what the defense gives you, which opens.
Speaker 6 (35:30):
Up CD and C, George and George.
Speaker 7 (35:32):
And that's exactly what you want to do. And a
part of that too is like I don't necessarily think
you need to just pound the run game the entire game. Like,
I really don't think that that's necessary.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
It's also not going to happen a whole lot of effective.
It's not going to be effective.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
No.
Speaker 7 (35:46):
I think if they're rely on quick passes, let that
set up your run game like that. That's where I'm at.
Speaker 5 (35:51):
Their linebackers are so aggressive and they're so good, right,
They're so reactive to the run. Right, So if you
have success in your run game, Zach bond Nikobe, they're
not waiting right to see if you're handing the ball
off or doing play action.
Speaker 6 (36:03):
They're shooting the gap. Right. So if you're you have
you can establish a running game in the beginning.
Speaker 5 (36:08):
I'm talking about four yards of pop, right, I'm not
talking about no big splash play four yards four yards
consistent like crap, man, these guys just there, he's running
into the back of the lineman, but then they're following
for four yards like all right, a second to six crap.
If you can do that consistently, then those linebackers have
no choice but to react to the run. And now
Jake Ferguson could eat now now actually exactly, and.
Speaker 7 (36:28):
When we're talking about mirroring what Philadelphia does, use Jake
Ferguson like they do Dallas Goddard because there are so
many situations where he's wide open the middle field because
we're the teams are having to account for the smith
and a j Brown and Goddard is wide open.
Speaker 6 (36:42):
Please do that.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
So everything that you guys are saying, it all points
back to one spot on.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
The field for me, and it's the offensive line. And
it's got to start up front.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
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line hole again in order to take down Philadel?
Speaker 3 (37:00):
Are they talented enough now that they are a whole?
They are healthy.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
All five guys are up front that they can handle
what Philadelphia has on that defensive line.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
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Speaker 1 (40:08):
Yeah, you're right, all right, let's talk about the offensive
line here, and Isaia, you just talked about the defensive front. Yes,
how good they are and how much they do challenge you.
But Patrick, I'll throw it to you to start here
with the five guys up front, everybody being back in
the full, Is this the game where you finally see
this offensive line click against a formidable opponent. Because they
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played well against the Raiders for the most part, they
have not played well against the formid opponent since kuber
Bebe returned. Can this be the game where they step
it up and you finally see what you want to
see out of the investment that you've put on your
offensive line.
Speaker 6 (40:44):
It can in it better. I'm kind of happy to
be it has to be, But I will say this.
Speaker 5 (40:49):
Tyler Booker before injury and coming back off of injury,
now that he has a couple games under his belt,
he looks like he's getting back into his groove.
Speaker 6 (40:56):
We know that he's he's just a road greater, right,
so he's going.
Speaker 5 (41:00):
To hold up very well against that Eagles interior defensive
line Cooper Bebe. He's a couple of games back now,
I think he gets back into his groove. I think
the Raiders game being his second game back, that was
a good way of getting his confidence back to where
it needs to get. Tyler Smith, I think Tyler Smith's
going to be Tyler Smith. I just need him to
kind of get away from the penalties that are kind
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of starting to crop up with him, right So, and
I know that he can because he's not normally a
highly penalized guy. But that interior offensive line for the Cowboys,
I believe it can hold up and it has no
choice but to. Now the bigger question mark is can
your tackles hold up? Okay, talk about the addition of Phillips, right,
so they're stronger. The Eagles are at the edges than
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they were in Week one, where they were heavy in
the middle and then the edges you were like, eh,
whatever you got That not the case now. I will
say there are some promise here going into this game.
First and foremost, let's talk about Tyler Gotten. Look at
Tyler Gotten's protection numbers from against the Raiders and he
allowed only one pressure with no sacks on thirty four
drop backs. Despite he didn't get a lot of help,
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not a lot of chipwork. Almost eighty percent of the
time he was one v one, So that's promising. He
was on his island more than three quarters of the time,
and he held up well. He only faced Max Crosby
one v one on two occasions, but no pressures allowed.
So Tyler guyton Oscar nominations aside, he acquitted himself well
and now comes a guy like Phillips in this front. Now,
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the bigger question was with Brian Schottenheimer saying that there
was an open competition at right tackle. His words, his
words looks like Terren Steele understood the assignment.
Speaker 6 (42:35):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (42:36):
Terrence Steele's numbers against mostly Max Crosby, okay.
Speaker 6 (42:40):
So Terrence Steel overall had.
Speaker 5 (42:41):
Sixteen out of sixteen reps versus Max Crosby, fifteen of
them were one v one. He only got assistance on
one of those reps. He only allowed two pressures out
of those sixteen total reps fifteen one v one and
no sacks because even the strip fumble that came from
Tyler Guiten's side could argue that Dak held the ball
a little too long, whatever the case.
Speaker 6 (43:03):
Right.
Speaker 5 (43:03):
So that being said, I love what I saw against
a Max Crosby led defensive end room. That gives me
very good confidence that you can repeat it against a
Jalen Phillips led defensive in room.
Speaker 6 (43:17):
But you gotta go and do it.
Speaker 7 (43:19):
There is a word that Isaiah kept referring to last
week when talking about the Raiders defense outside of Max Crosby,
and what was that?
Speaker 6 (43:28):
Right?
Speaker 7 (43:29):
I think that is in large part due to how
well the offensive line played last week. One thing plays
into the other thing. And yes, it was a stout
game from Tyler goiiton it was a stout game from
Terrence Steel considering going up against Max Crosby. But that
is one player, and as Isaiah just eloquently put, they
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have several guys that you got to account for and
worry about, and through the totality of the season, you
have not seen a very consistent Tyler Guiton. I would
not expect a very consistent Tyler Gotton in this game
because of the challenge that's in front of him, and
that's not to dissuade him. And part of me is like, okay, well,
if the feeling that the offensive line gets after this
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Raiders game says like, all right, we're those guys. We
can do this on a week in and week out basis,
you know, fake it till you make it, sure, absolutely,
but you have a real test coming in front of you.
And what we talked about, even if we were able
to beat the Raiders, and granted I think we would
have beat the Raiders had we not had a brand
new look defense, I think that was very much a possibility,
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even with how poorly we were playing. And then you
get these new guys and now you have a you know,
a new sense of like, okay, a new look defense,
this is how we're playing now. Again, that is a
tough tough thing to say after a team like the Raiders.
And I don't want to be like, oh, well, it's
just the Raiders. It's all competition, but you have to
put it in context of like, these guys are really
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really good that you're going up against it, and you
have to have that same mentality if your Dallas again
this week, So you have to come in with that
same grit determination all of those things, and like I said,
even if you're not the best one v one, you
have to fake it till you make it and have
that confidence that you can do it. So I'm concerned
for sure going up against this defense. And this feels
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like another one of those games where the Dallas always
have to be perfect on basically every level team in
the game. So I do I agree, And you're going
up against the team. Sorry, you're going up against the
team that is not playing their best football and still
winning just about it.
Speaker 1 (45:27):
They're playing their best football on the defensive side, though.
I mean they've allowed sixteen points since Week eight and
against two really good offenses Detroit last week they gave
up seven points. Detroit was unstoppable. They going into that
and they could not do anything. And if they got
into the red zone, they knew it was one of
their few opportunities to score and to put points on
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the board.
Speaker 3 (45:48):
So what did they do.
Speaker 1 (45:49):
They went forward on fourth down instead of kicking field
goals because they knew field goals wouldn't have gotten it done.
Speaker 6 (45:54):
So I do agree with Josh.
Speaker 5 (45:55):
One thing plays until the other absolutely correct, and we're
talking about the Raiders, absolutely correct. What I would counter with, though,
is if these numbers that I was seeing from Tyler
Guy and particularly Terrence Steele versus Max Crosby, if these
numbers had a higher percentage of chip blocks and assists,
then I would be more inclined to say, Okay, well,
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it's more so because the interior defensive line against the
Raiders were so poor it allowed for the Cowboys to
throw extra bodies at Max Crosby. Terrence Steele and Tyler
got and they were doing this in one on one
owners island with Max Crosby. So while I do agree,
I would add that context to say what we do
agree upon is that consistency needs to happen. They've been
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inconsistent both of those guys, so they need to replicate
what they did last week. But considering who they were
on an island against last week, Max Crosby is.
Speaker 3 (46:46):
A whole dude, So I'm Phillips is a dude.
Speaker 6 (46:52):
Phillips is not better than Max.
Speaker 5 (46:54):
Noun facts. No, listen this, I just I have confidence,
I truly do. I think that our offense will have success.
You're gonna take some else, You're gonna take some sacks.
You're gonna take some tip balls. You're gonna're gonna you're
gonna take some l's right. It's gonna be a battle royal.
It's gonna be like a game of Pong, going back
and forth. Okay, you're not gonna feel as if there's
just this wave of Yeah, it's not gonna be a
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wave of just all you're just dominating the egos. You're
gonna have a negative play. You're gonna have positive player negative.
It's gonna be back and forth. I have confidence, But
this team has to They have to do two things.
His offense we're talking about. They have to play as
a unit up front. It can't be individuals. And you
have to have emotional intelligence. You have to approach the
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games as a one unit of dogs, like you gotta
go out there with the mentality we're about to put
these casts through the ground.
Speaker 6 (47:45):
Yes, you have to have this.
Speaker 5 (47:46):
You have to have this arrogance in this this approach
to the game. But you have to be able to
know when to cut it off, like when that whistle blows.
You gotta be able to turn the switch off. Okay,
it's not gonna be no clap on all right, like
we're doing here, but you gotta be able to turn
it off.
Speaker 6 (48:00):
Man.
Speaker 5 (48:02):
I'm excited. I'm excited because you're gonna find out who
the heck you are this week.
Speaker 6 (48:06):
I liked it. I like that.
Speaker 7 (48:08):
I like those words.
Speaker 1 (48:09):
A lot of different things gonna happen throughout the course
of this week leading into that matchup with Philadelphia coming
up on Sunday Tomorrow. We're gonna flip it to the
offensive preview for the Philadelphia Eagles taking on this new
look Dallas defense. Can what Dallas did I at the
trade deadline and getting them back from injury?
Speaker 3 (48:26):
Can that help out what this.
Speaker 1 (48:27):
Team is going to do against the Philadelphia offense, who
has not been playing their best football as of late.
More to come this week here on Talking Cowboys for
Patrick no Cy Walker, for Josh Rodriguez, Isaiah Stanback, Chris
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Texas and the s w b C Studio. Welcome in, everybody.
We've got the whole cast and crew ready for you
to rock today with Patrick Nosey Walker, Josh Rodriguez back
in the building. We've got Isaiah stand Back with Chris
Beam in the back of Kyle Yeoman. So glad you're
with us here on this wonderful Wednesday, which of course
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is going to be our Cowboys offensive preview as they
get ready to take on the Philadelphia Eagles defense. I
like you sure, Patrick, I just realized that you got
one of those absolutely, where's mine?
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Fine?
Speaker 4 (01:25):
One?
Speaker 6 (01:26):
That's being he was.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
He was handing him out like dandy handing him out
like candy.
Speaker 7 (01:29):
And then he saw me and he's like, oh yeah, not.
Speaker 6 (01:32):
That we need to find one for everybody.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
I agree.
Speaker 6 (01:37):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
We're gonna have QB vision coming up in the next segment. Isaiah,
stand back. I saw you down in the training table
doing a little bit of film study.
Speaker 6 (01:46):
You saw me.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
I kind of like peeked around the corner.
Speaker 6 (01:49):
Freak you were down.
Speaker 7 (01:51):
Thankfully that's what was on your computer.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
It's giving and everybody sees me in there. I'll be
in there getting my study on, you know what I mean,
just perform it, trying to make sure that we make
our family is the smartest ones in the room, you.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Know, Isaiah.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
And instead of going to a coffee shop and studying
out in public, he just sits here and let's like
Dack walk in front of him.
Speaker 7 (02:10):
He's like that one muscle bound influencer. It's just like
this ten thousand.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
It's like those old, like eighties and ninety sitcoms where
someone's sitting at the computer, but it's not actually something
on the screen.
Speaker 6 (02:22):
It's like a piece It's like paper with some fines
on it. Right, bro.
Speaker 5 (02:27):
It's literally to the point now where all the coaches
will mclay's scouts, they all come back, or what are
we looking at today?
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Like?
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Now do you sew like sugarcoated?
Speaker 6 (02:36):
A little? Straight up?
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Yeah, we have some good conversations, not like, man, this
secondary has been trash ship.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
You haven't done anything this week?
Speaker 6 (02:44):
Now, Okay, he's playing the Firefox Dinosaur Snake on his Nokia.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Hey, what are we looking at today? And it's like
he's just playing Mario Kart like some I love it
all right, playing Gallagha.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
I'm back to Gallagher. I think your your microphones off there?
Speaker 7 (03:02):
Hello, I didn't touch it, beam, you didn't touch it
as low there touch there you go, and we're playing
Gallay building and now your microphone is just not one more?
Speaker 6 (03:11):
What the heck's wrong?
Speaker 3 (03:14):
If it's not one thing, it's the next thing. It's Grimlins, actually.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
The studio Grimlins. By the way, speaking of studios and
speaking of trolls. We got to reveal what happened this
last year because now that Josh is back.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
In the building, I have a bone to pick with you, sir.
Speaker 6 (03:33):
What you guys tricked us? The clapper.
Speaker 5 (03:38):
The fiasco that wasn't real, That was not real, and
I thought it was one I was pretty got you
pretty good.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
One thousand percent, and I thought, that's like the best practical,
practical joke you could pull on somebody armless.
Speaker 6 (03:55):
It was hilarious.
Speaker 7 (03:56):
Well, it started as an innocent way of doing it,
but Beam like took it to the next step because
we were just messing with Isaiah and then it did
the clap at the beginning of the episode and then
be changed it. I was like, okay, we're doing this.
Speaker 6 (04:07):
Then you kept the whole time.
Speaker 7 (04:09):
Yeah, no, if you're into improv at all, yes, it's yes.
And so I just kept going with it and uh, yeah,
we got you guys pretty good.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Here's when he started saying it changes cause like, oh crap,
I haven't.
Speaker 7 (04:21):
Yeah, but but that was the part because we never
talked about changing colors. I was like, no, so if
you say the color and then you clapp like, it
was hilariously and Beam and I were communicating the telepathy.
Speaker 6 (04:34):
Yeahs going here here was the tail.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
Eventually, this is where we started to think, like, probably
did an idea later in the episode when the timing
became off, so I figured it was like lights on
the back end of the episode. It was like clap, clap,
oh it didn't work. Clap clap, And it was because
Beamer was back to.
Speaker 8 (04:54):
Like, oh crap, I've forgotten the bit.
Speaker 6 (04:58):
No, I had to switch pages on there. I had
got them, dude. It was so funny. It was hilarious.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
My favorite part about it is Josh just like didn't
even say anything at the end, and then once we
all kind of got up, he goes, it's not real.
He just goes, it's not but the clapper the one too.
And I was even thinking in the middle of it,
I was like, I feel like that's gonna be problematic
at some point some show. Mickey Spagnola was going to
be like, I can't believe that, and then that's going
to change just like that, you know, Like I I
(05:28):
knew there was gonna be something there.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
But man, good job, well done. Of course number one.
I wanted to wait for you to get back in
the building.
Speaker 7 (05:35):
More improv for for talking cowboys.
Speaker 6 (05:38):
I love it.
Speaker 5 (05:38):
And also, now that you're back in the building this Friday,
we get to where our fanily.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Yes, we did hoodies.
Speaker 6 (05:43):
Hoodies.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Yeah, absolutely, all right, Pat, let's get into some news
and notes.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
Absolutely so, First and foremost, the cowboys did wave linebacker
Damone Clark form a fifth round pick. Damon Clark, I
mean he overcame the next fusion surgery, you know, to
avoid his rookie season being a red shirt year. He
came in when they really needed him in October of
that season because of injury at the position. He got
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off to a fast, hot start there. You know, the
potential was most certainly there, kind of thrived a bit,
he was up and down, but had some thriving moments
under DQ. But in the post Dan Quinn era, it's
just not worked out for the Mohne Clark Mike Zimmer
just did not find a way to utilize him. Things
looked very, very good and promising for him in this
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year's training camp he was ebra Flus. Yeah, he was
flying around, he was doing some things in training camp.
But then the season started and not unlike marys Lea File,
you know, just they got kind of pushed to the
back as the Jack Sanborn variable came in and that
was Eberflus's guy. And then now you add Logan Wilson
to the mix and de Moon Clark was already not
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getting utilized. So I'm surprised. I'm surprised that that was
the move instead of Sandborn. I do agree, because I
feel like I do. A key gives you more than
Sanborn gives you both agree the defense side and in
a special team special I do agree. So I don't
that move doesn't I don't understand if you're going to
make a move at that position. I don't understand why
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you would choose him versus.
Speaker 7 (07:13):
Could they make a move with Simmoorn being on IR?
Speaker 6 (07:16):
I want you to put dmon on Ir. Well, he
got that fingernail thing.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
That's what I was about to say. I was like,
hold on, we got to make something up there.
Speaker 6 (07:24):
You know what I think?
Speaker 5 (07:24):
I think, and this is from I mean, I've had
endless conversations with Demon from day one, him as a rookie,
through this entire process, as recently as Monday ahead of
the game, after the enactors came out, and he just
his spirits were as high as they could be, but
it just felt more and more like he was kind
of dejected with not getting the opportunities and frustrated. And
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then I think, more so what kind of fracture the
relationship between he and the organization, more than anything was
after what happened with him and Mike Zimmer as far
as just him not being able to get on the field.
Here comes either flu a linebacker's coach, you a little
bit more youthful, and then you know, da'mon is feeling like, okay,
here we are and then it doesn't happen that way,
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and it's so deflating and it's so defeating. And I
really think that Schattenheimer said it best when he said
that he told him On he was like, sometimes you know,
a fresh start somewhere else, it's just the best medicine. Now,
sometimes that's just political speak, but in this particular case,
actually do agree. I think Damon Clark needs a fresh
start somewhere else.
Speaker 7 (08:29):
But that was a pretty final uh word to have
on Damone Clark in his I guess his future here
in Dallas, Like that was a pretty definite thing for
Schottenheimer to say. I was surprised to hear him say
something so definitive in that, like his future is elsewhere
and not here with the Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Yeah, because he was waved in this scenario. He was
waved so he could be brought back to the practice squad.
Speaker 7 (08:51):
I don't but I don't think that's that's not going
to be especially after shot he's feels yesterday. But of course,
with all respect in the world to dmon and what he's.
Speaker 5 (08:59):
I think it's also because in that conversation, whatever however
that dialogue went, I think both sides understand that it
needs to end. So even if he were to clear waivers,
he's not interested in rejoining the press.
Speaker 6 (09:12):
So that's what I mean.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
Now with that, that frees up the spot that was
needed for you want you want some good news because
you do love your DTS. Perry and Winfrey is activated
from injured reserve. So now we're talking about a defensive
tackle rotations. Yeah, that's going from arguably the weakest up
against the cornerback position at a certain point, arguably the
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weakest position on the team, to arguably the strongest. So
walk with me now. So we got Quentinn Williams. Okay,
we got Kenny Clark. Those guys are pretty good. We
gotz oh, yeah, he's good. Got Solomon Thomas, Ad Perry
On Winfrey, and then you got the rookie J Toya,
who now gets to also get mentored by those guys
that I just mentioned.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Didn't J Toya? I have a sat Wait, no, that
was James Houston. James, come on, he pay too much
money to mix it. James Houston with j.
Speaker 6 (10:05):
Come on, Joe don't even look alike.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
But so yeah, So Perryon Winfrey, former All UFL team
guy leader in tackle tackles at UFL.
Speaker 6 (10:15):
We all know about his emotional.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
Roster edition, I should say, because when they were doing
the final roster cuts, he was under the belief that
he had been cut. He went to Schottenheimer and he's
very emotional and he's just like, ah, just give me
a shot, and the whole time they're looking at him like,
we didn't cut you. So it was turned out to
be a fun, powerful story for a guy who's worked
so hard to get to this point but then unfortunately
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got bit by the injury bug ends up on ir.
So whenever he does play this season, which now he will,
it will be his debut for the Cowboys at a
position of strength.
Speaker 6 (10:51):
Now, so that rotation is just nast.
Speaker 7 (10:53):
That's so exciting for me, especially coming off of that.
Was my guy tell me at a camp because I
was so excited for him to finally get on the
fifty three and I was in every facet. I was
like this guy's on my fifty three no matter what.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (11:06):
And to see him actually make the team and then
to not play any snaps and since then has been
tough to kind of like be on the cusp of
waiting for him to return. And then now that, like
you said that one of the strengths of your defense
is now the defensive line, the interior defensive line at
that I mean you had also digg Z with Quinn
Williams grade top five overall in your defensive is good
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over the entire league of last week?
Speaker 6 (11:31):
Did you guys know that seems good?
Speaker 3 (11:32):
It's pretty impressive.
Speaker 6 (11:33):
It seems good.
Speaker 7 (11:34):
Also, diggi zo graded out at a ninety point six
sounds good to me. Winning Williams graded out in ninety
point two best for two and four pff pff yeah, amazing.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
What's your what's your starting off starting defensive line? In
second string defensive line?
Speaker 1 (11:49):
You're talking about dtackles specifically or across the cross the board?
Speaker 6 (11:52):
Oh, so four and I got two ds for down linemen.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Yeah, I'm gonna go four.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Okay, Man's Clark and william on the inside. Will Yeah,
I'm throwing and probably so osa second string. I see
this is what I'm toy with.
Speaker 6 (12:12):
I would I would toy with Osa at at edge.
Speaker 7 (12:16):
I would throw him out there as a five me
that last week you wanted on the edge.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Yeah, he didn't really do a whole lot of you.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
Williamste is coming. It's coming along, Quinn Williams. And then
there's Kenny Clark both interchange between one and the three.
Speaker 6 (12:32):
Yeah. Yeah for me.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
Jadeveon Clowney, that's his run stopping ability and he's doing it.
He's doing a relatively good job at a pass rush.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
You can tell he's ramped up now. Yeah, he's he's
playing back to what you kind of wanted to see.
Speaker 6 (12:45):
And his football IQ is there, Yes, very much. It's incredible.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
So Jadevion Clowney is at one of the ends and
is playing at the five mm throw Osa five call
it quinnin at the one yet and he had the three?
All right, I'm sorry. Yeah, you guys are what I'm saying.
And then you have and then your second wave, your
second wave, Dante Fowler, Donovan Azeraku at the ends okay,
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interchangeable with James Houston. He rotate through there, and then
you have Perry on Winfrey and Solomon Thomas two words.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Hell, isn't it crazy that we were in training camp
and Josh, I give you credit for this. We were
talking about Perry On Winfrey coming off the street, signing
as a free agent and immediately being thrust into a
second or third spot on that defensive line. We didn't
know what Solomon Thomas was going to be.
Speaker 7 (13:40):
Of course you didn't know what j was, but you
didn't know how he was going to contribute in this defense.
Speaker 6 (13:44):
That age, right, And so.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
With all of that being said, now you're looking at
Perry On Winfrey as a fifth or sixth option on
your defensive interior as opposed to a second or a
third option.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
That shows just how much this entire group has.
Speaker 6 (13:59):
Grown healthy six months.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
It's unbelievable to class not even six months, it's more
like four months, and it's just completely revamped two.
Speaker 7 (14:09):
Weeks, you know, like you considered the trade being the
biggest piece of it all to really uh solidify that
defensive line.
Speaker 6 (14:16):
It's crazy and no snap, and that's what happened.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Any other news and nodes, Patrick.
Speaker 5 (14:22):
Yes, the Cowboys did wave h Wesley French from the
practice squad.
Speaker 6 (14:28):
He was a center. He's he'd only been here a
few weeks.
Speaker 5 (14:31):
He had arrived a couple of weeks or so before
the BI week, so no real traction there. They saw
they needed to see or didn't see what they wanted
to see, so they waved him uh. And then they
waved injured tight end John Stevens Junior, who was still
on IF so they waved injured him with a settlement.
So now John Stevens Junior, once he finishes getting back healthy,
he'll have an opportunity with another team. And I agree
(14:53):
with you, Isaiah, I hate that the end came for
John Stevens Junior and the fashion in which it did.
Speaker 6 (14:59):
He just not stay healthy. His body just not work
with him.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
After such a promising rookie training camp in preseason first
two training camps for you would you would have loved
to see what he could have contributed to his Titans room,
But unfortunately, John Stevens Junior, he's no longer with the
Cowboys in any capacity. So John Stevens Junior, all I
can say is get healthy and go continue to pursue
your dream man, because the talent is absolutely there.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Ye just has to stay healthy, man, John Stephens Jr.
And then you talk about de Moon Clark. Those are
two really good dudes that that the Cowboys had to
move on from people and good people that were in
this locker room and that were very beneficial to the
locker room.
Speaker 5 (15:40):
I really hated for John Stevens because he doesn't get
the mentorship and coaching and development from London Wells anymore.
That's like it's one thing to have talent. Really, he
spoke very highly of very highly of him, and everybody
who comes into that room develops just one of the
most undervalued, from my perspective, one of the most undervalued
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position coaches in the league.
Speaker 6 (16:04):
I agree, and.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
There hasn't been enough of an emphasis they did almost losing.
Speaker 6 (16:09):
Hasn't been enough.
Speaker 5 (16:10):
But one of the only guys that came on position
of coaches in this league and developed by a hand
they held. They're holding onto him because of his the
work that he puts in into that room. So I
hate that John Stevens, even though he'll have other opportunities,
I highly doubt that he'll be able to go somewhere
where somebody cares as much as Linda does.
Speaker 7 (16:27):
Invaluable for sure, you can't really put a price on
what he's able to contribute, and uh, you saw that
more like you see the progression of like brevn svan
Ford and his blocking ability. We've talked about it so far,
and honestly, we're one of the only podcasts to really
bring him up on a pretty consistent basis because we
sort of see that. I mean, if you're watching tape,
you see what he's able to watch tape.
Speaker 6 (16:48):
We do on occasion.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
He plays so downhill. He's a big dude, a big
freaking dude.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
But the way that he has a nasty finish with
his blocking, you can you don't. You don't, I mean,
you can't teach that, but you have to want to.
He's doing that up himself, Like he wants that physicality,
he wants the smoke and I really did catch and
he can.
Speaker 7 (17:11):
Catch and his yards after catch. Man, Come on, don't like.
Speaker 5 (17:15):
Just a high talent, high ceiling guy whose body has
just been betraying him in his young NFL career.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
He's talking about John Stevens.
Speaker 6 (17:25):
Yeah, so that's what I mean.
Speaker 5 (17:26):
I'm really hoping that that, you know, he can stay
healthy and if he can stay healthy, if he lands
somewhere with the right type of coaching, Yeah, I hope
in a year or two from now, we're looking back
at it and we're saying that that's what we wanted
to see with the Cowboys. And of course it'll be
no one's fault. It's not a situation where all the
Cowboys gave up on him and he went and balled
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out somewhere else.
Speaker 6 (17:48):
Like no, no, no.
Speaker 5 (17:49):
For both of these guys, they gave them to give
him opportunities. He just could not stay healthy. And we're
not talking about talking about minor injuries either. We're talking
about to devastating injuries, right, you know what I mean.
Speaker 7 (17:59):
But I could see him like do really well on
a team like Baltimore or a team like the Patriots,
you know, like flourish. Really if he's given another.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Oportuityve got to be in the right spot. But stay healthy,
that's the other thing. Yeah, we'll figure that out. Speaking
of Philly, let's talk about the Philadelphia Eagles defense. QB
Vision is on the way. Isaiah Stanback's been breaking down
the film. He's going to tell you exactly what the
Cowboys offense is going to see in this matchup coming
(18:29):
up on Sunday afternoon.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
More talking Cowboys, Right, after.
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I'm Kyle Yeoman's and I see this comment here for
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every episode, I'm more convinced of Isaiah Standback being part
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Speaker 6 (21:21):
Why Eddie, Why Eddie cut up?
Speaker 5 (21:25):
It's time for QB vision with Isaiah's Standback. Yeah, you know,
I hate that this has become the tradition. First of all,
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Speaker 3 (21:46):
That's what all coaches say before they take a new coach.
Speaker 7 (21:48):
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Speaker 6 (22:16):
Everybody's all right, all right, let's talk about it.
Speaker 5 (22:23):
We're about to play the Philadelphia Egles and Philadelphia Eagles.
We all understand that this is not the Las Vegas Raiders. Okay,
let's just keep it one hundred. And what were the
What were the Raiders? You said trash?
Speaker 3 (22:37):
And what are the Eagles not trash?
Speaker 5 (22:40):
I'd even recycled com post, not any of that stuff.
Listen to Eagles. The Eagles are good, man, Keep it
one hundred. I am looking forward to this matchup because
I think that this I think both of our teams
are built to beat each other.
Speaker 6 (22:56):
I truly believe that. I think that.
Speaker 5 (22:59):
That Howie Roseman and Double J are literally building their
rosters to compete with each other. I think they understand
that they are the two top dogs in this division,
and their rosters are indicative of that. It's no different
than than the Buffalo Bills building their roster to beat
the Ken City Chiefs.
Speaker 6 (23:18):
It just is what it is.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
You got to play these guys twice a year, and
in order to get to where you want to get,
you have to get past his team. So I think
that obviously what the Howie Roseman has done with his
roster defensively, Dallas has combat at that. They've invested a
ton into their defensive line. We've invested a ton into
our offensive line. They've had a lot of young talent
show up at the linebacker and secondary position.
Speaker 6 (23:42):
We've added a lot of talent there as well.
Speaker 5 (23:44):
Right, They've invested in Jake Ferguson, they invested in CD
and now hopefully George Piggins. They brought him in over
on the trade. He was there a week one when
we played them, and obviously hopefully he gets an extension here.
Speaker 6 (23:55):
But do it, they will do it. Probably won't be
the number he wants, but they'll do it.
Speaker 7 (24:00):
And mirror images in terms of receivers very much, drafting
a generational talent and then also trading for another guy
that you absolutely needed.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Because for them it was DeVante Smith was what first
rounder in twenty twenty one, and then aj Brown was
traded and then for US of course Ceede Lamb and
twenty twenty and George Pickens was traded so it's almost
like I.
Speaker 5 (24:21):
Like peaking as a home where quarterback point. I like
quarterbacks invested in tight ends. Both have seven touchdowns. Receivers
they're under Their receivers are under productive right now, but
they can still strike fire. But let's talk about this
defense all right. It starts with their defensive line. Defensive
line is nasty. Defensive line has been nasty. When Dallas
lost in Week one, they obviously lost their best player
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prior to the game.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
You don't think that'll happen again. You don't think we'll
get lucky.
Speaker 6 (24:46):
Like that getting a loogi. Bro, we're not even getting
a Jamar Chase Lugi on the lucky loogie.
Speaker 5 (24:51):
Yeah, we're not getting that. His presence was missed in
that game, Dallas. Yeah, not happening. Reflection, I think Dallas Tyler, right, Tyler,
I believe that Dallas had more success than they would
have had in Week one in the running game because
Jalen Carter was not present. I'm not taking anything away
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from our offensive line, but we know that Jalen Carter
is one of the best interior defense linemen in the league.
That's factuals true. He wasn't there because of his actions
he will be there.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Yes, you think he's ready for this game too?
Speaker 5 (25:28):
Yes, Jordan Davis will be there. Moro Jomo will be there.
Number ninety seven. Oh, and then there's a new guy
that they added. Who's that, Yeah, Jalen Phillips.
Speaker 6 (25:42):
Jalen Phillips.
Speaker 5 (25:43):
They have them listed as an outside linebacker because they
have it on the depth trod as a three to
four defense.
Speaker 6 (25:48):
He will be there, and he's a dude this defense.
Speaker 7 (25:51):
But we don't know him as much. Are you sure
he's a dude.
Speaker 5 (25:54):
He's a dude, and he has infused even more energy
into this defense. I truly believe that their front seven
is the best part of their defense. Their their defensive
linemen are all dangerous in their own right. Jalen Carter
is disruptive, Jordan Davis is hard to move. Moro is
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active and very physical.
Speaker 6 (26:17):
And now they have a true pass rusher that can
be disruptive. They didn't.
Speaker 5 (26:21):
They didn't have a disruptive pass rusher when we played
them in Week one. Now they do in Phillips. Jalen
Phillips is a disruptor. Number fifty. He'll be standing up
on the edge. I don't remember if he switches side,
but I know he'll be over Terrence Steele. So that
front line is something that you have to be concerned about.
I went back and I watched Week one. I loved
how intense Dallas played. Dallas played very physical. If this
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is a ball game that Dallas wants to win, you're
going to have to out physical.
Speaker 10 (26:51):
The Philadelphia Eagles are are. Yeah, listen, it's a hell
of a matchup.
Speaker 8 (27:01):
Man.
Speaker 5 (27:02):
I truly think that they probably have the best linebacker corps.
I think they probably have the best linebacker core in
the NFL. Wow, that's my last one.
Speaker 6 (27:13):
That's my opinion. They have the best line In my opinion,
they have the best linebacker cord in the NFL.
Speaker 7 (27:16):
And linebackers have been giving this sea many problems at the.
Speaker 6 (27:19):
Moment at the month. That's all I can speak to.
That's all I can speak to. Zach Bond is smart,
very smart, cerebral.
Speaker 5 (27:27):
This defensive line just for the same reasons why I
wanted Quinn Williams and Kenny Clark playing together. It's hard
to get up to those to that second level. So
when you're spending your time at the offensive line blocking
that you know those interior defensive linemen. Their linebackers don't
wait like they really don't wait like they their linebackers
react the way in which I wish that our linebackers
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had up until this point of the season. Yeah, when
a hole opens up, Zach Bond freaking hits it. He's going.
He's not waiting to see what happens. I'm not waiting
to see if he's gonna go on door A or
door B. He's taking whatever door opens, and and they're
playing off of that. They have Nikobe Dean, who I've
had the pleasure of.
Speaker 6 (28:04):
Meeting and talking to.
Speaker 5 (28:07):
Listen the same way that we speak about de Marveion
overshown in terms of his passion for the game, same
vibes I get from Nakcobe Dean that is correct. He
loves the game of football, correct, like genuinely like it,
like it's exuding off him, like it just it just radiates.
He's a dude. He'll be the one in the elbow brace.
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He's a he's he's athletic. He makes it very difficult.
I talked a lot about how how Jake Ferguson's going
to have to have a day for Dallas to be
successful offensively, where he's got to deal with Nikobe Dean,
and Nikobe Dean can run. You're not going to outrun him, right,
And he's he's going to be in your hip pocket.
You're gonna have to make contested catches. He's going to
be there, right, He's always going to be in the
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play Jaylyx Hunt fifty eight. He's he's a dude as well.
So frot seven is a problem. You got to meet
them head up right, take care of your business. You
were able to have success against some last time, do
it again, except this time you got a block ninety eight. Okay,
so tight ends were physical last time. I was very
impressed with with our guy Brefence spam Ford. He was
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very physical. Schoolmaker I was actually.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
I was about to say Scoomaker, I remember being really
physical and Schoolmaker was physical. So they were amped up
for week one and they utilized ferg a lot in
the in the passing game.
Speaker 6 (29:19):
Yes, the used him a lot.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
As a receiver in that game, and they kind of
had Schooonmaker as the physical rightforcer yep.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
And a lot of that allowed for Ferguson.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
To do what he did, which we were just talking
about yesterday, is something that you want to get back
to correct.
Speaker 5 (29:32):
So they listed as a three man front, but they'll
is really a four man front. They'll stand up Jalen Phillips.
He'll be like a kind of an in bicycle stance.
So I consider it a four man front. They can
call it three four all day long. It's four to three.
Let's go to the secondary. Secondary, solid physical, physical secondary.
I will say that I'm not sure that they're the
best cover guys in the league, but they're very physical.
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I can tell you one guy who does cover well
is Cooper Dejing, number thirty three. I like everything about him. Young, talented, physical, feisty,
right punching him out. He punked Jalen Tolbert the first
time we played him. I'm really hopeful that Jalen Tobert
gets some get back. He came down hill in the
screen game. Jalen Tolbert was supposed to be blocking and
just slapped him, just slapped him around. Ceedee Lamb had
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to come to Jalen Tolbert's defense, Dak Prescott had to
come to Jalen Tolber's defense. So I'm hoping that Jalen
Tolbert get some get back. Within the parameters of play
and don't hurt your team.
Speaker 6 (30:23):
Don't do that.
Speaker 5 (30:24):
So Cooper Degen's nice red Blanken ships one of the
better safeties in the league. I think he's just he's smart,
he's he's reactive. He goes sideline the sideline. Quinnon Mitchell,
I give him his respect. He's he's he's he's okay.
Speaker 6 (30:37):
I don't, I'm not. I know a lot of people
are high on him. I'm not.
Speaker 5 (30:40):
I don't think that they are put in a lot
of positions to play a lot of man to man coverage.
I think maybe twenty five percent or something like that.
I think they're more of his own team. They do
a really good job of hiding what it is that
they're doing in terms of their safety movement. It's very late,
it's big. Fan Gill's defenses are always disciplined. Dak Prescott
has success against Vic Fangio's defenses, but collectively as a team,
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he hasn't won much against him. I think he's one
in four you go, but he has done a good
job in terms of his statistical category against him, five touchdowns,
one interception. I believe so Dak has seen everything before.
These guys will try to bring pressure, but Dak does
handle pressure very well. Where I think these guys are weak,
trying to give you kind of a front to back
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type of overhaul. Here the middle of their field, it's
it's booty button naked, no huggies, just just go streaking
through the quad and the coliseum.
Speaker 6 (31:35):
It's the middle. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 5 (31:37):
You got three of them jokers running around the middle
of their field is open. It is so vacant that
that's why I feel like Jake Ferguson can have a day.
I mentioned Ceedee Lamb on his over routes.
Speaker 6 (31:50):
I mention.
Speaker 5 (31:52):
George Pickens on his deep en routes. Those are typically
the routes that those guys run. I hope that they
mix it up a little bit more so it's not
as predictable. They will cut your over routes, just like
we saw this past week. Yeah, where Ceede Lamb is
trying to run an over route the safety season he
drops down from a two high look to a one
high look to enter and intercede and prevent Ceedee Lamb
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from getting over. Okay, cool, But the end routes, the
slant routes, all those things, they're going to be contested.
But if you can catch it and you can make
one man miss the guy who's on your back, there's
a lot of yak yards to be had.
Speaker 6 (32:27):
And I really think that Dallas.
Speaker 5 (32:29):
Can expose Philadelphia in the passing game by taking advantage
of that vacant mental And I'm talking about like thirty
yards of vacancy here.
Speaker 6 (32:36):
Now I'm talking about a couple of yards. This is
like it's like the freaking Red Sea.
Speaker 5 (32:40):
But by doing that, guys have to win at the
line of scrimmage getting off the ball, and then you got.
Speaker 6 (32:45):
To be able to block it up. So Dak has
time when you look.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
At the middle of the field, and there are a
lot of Texas fans that watch this, so I know
a lot of people are going to ask about Andrew.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
Mccooba, the safety.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
What is he been tabbed with doing in this Vic
van Gel type of defense and in his system? And
how has he played to start the year as a
rookie safety.
Speaker 5 (33:05):
Yeah, they usually wrote him down to be like the
down safety. He'll start high again, they'll give a two man,
they'll give a two high look and then it'll be
like a late rotation, right, It'll be late sign yeah,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
I don't not a Texas fan. We're talking about Andrew.
Speaker 6 (33:21):
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Oh yeah, thank you very much. Relation our college football. Man,
it's coming on on Friday with plenty, so.
Speaker 5 (33:28):
They do a lot of late rotations and they they'll
cut those guys. So what they're trying to do is
they play their safety is really deep. They really try
to get you to hold onto the ball.
Speaker 6 (33:35):
Right.
Speaker 5 (33:35):
We've seen this before. Denver did a really good job
about this. I've made everybody aware of what Denver did.
Denver brought pressure, though, I mean really counting on their
front seven to get home while you were sitting there
patting the ball, waiting for your guys to get beyond
their secondary.
Speaker 6 (33:49):
Don't try to get beyond their secondary. Ceede Lamb did
a really.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
Good job of it in Week one, but it was
off of double moves right Ceedee Lamb was able to
get him fake the end route, fake the post route,
getting the bite on it, and then break it back
out to the sideline.
Speaker 6 (34:00):
He had a lot of success versus them on that.
Speaker 5 (34:02):
George Pickens was able to get some some pass interference
calls because Dak had the time to sit back, pat
the ball a little bit and throw the ball down
the field and let George Pickens try to get it.
They held them. We got the ball all the way
moved to the goal line. So we have some success
in week one versus this defense. I'm not saying that
you can't beat this defense. I'm saying that they are
very vulnerable to get beat. But you have to protect
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and you have that afore the time.
Speaker 6 (34:26):
You have to have the time.
Speaker 5 (34:27):
Your guys can beat their guys. Our receivers are better
than their secondary. Our tight end can body up. I'm
not gonna say he's faster and can out rout them up,
but he can body up. You can get the ball
to Jay Ferguson on some plays across the middle twelve yards,
you know, fifteen yards whatever it is, but he's gonna
be it's gonna be a contested catch. Don't expect a
whole lot after it and catch, tackle, whatever. And then
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you have to be able to run the ball. If
you can run the.
Speaker 6 (34:50):
Ball effectively, you can control this game.
Speaker 5 (34:53):
It's gonna be competitive. You're gonna have your wins, you're
gonna have your losses. It's gonna be a freaking battle Royale.
But you can beat this defense up, you truly can.
You're gonna have to do it by having sustainable, long,
methodical drives and then when you get your shot, you
got to you gotta connect.
Speaker 7 (35:09):
I love what you're saying about Jake Ferguson and the
ability that he has to sort of take advantage over
the middle. And it's one of those things where, at
least for the Cowboys, if they're able to take advantage
of that early. The Eagles are smart enough, especially Vic Fangio,
to account for that. If they see the Dallas attack
in the middle, then they have to They are able
to and they will adjust. And you have to be
able to take what the defense gives you, which opens.
Speaker 6 (35:30):
Up CD and C, George and George.
Speaker 7 (35:32):
And that's exactly what you want to do. And a
part of that too is like I don't necessarily think
you need to just pound the run game the entire game. Like,
I really don't think that that's necessary.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
It's also not going to happen a whole lot of effective.
It's not going to be effective.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
No.
Speaker 7 (35:46):
I think if they're rely on quick passes, let that
set up your run game like that. That's where I'm at.
Speaker 5 (35:51):
Their linebackers are so aggressive and they're so good, right,
They're so reactive to the run. Right, So if you
have success in your run game, Zach bond Nikobe, they're
not waiting right to see if you're handing the ball
off or doing play action.
Speaker 6 (36:03):
They're shooting the gap. Right. So if you're you have
you can establish a running game in the beginning.
Speaker 5 (36:08):
I'm talking about four yards of pop, right, I'm not
talking about no big splash play four yards four yards
consistent like crap, man, these guys just there, he's running
into the back of the lineman, but then they're following
for four yards like all right, a second to six crap.
If you can do that consistently, then those linebackers have
no choice but to react to the run. And now
Jake Ferguson could eat now now actually exactly, and.
Speaker 7 (36:28):
When we're talking about mirroring what Philadelphia does, use Jake
Ferguson like they do Dallas Goddard because there are so
many situations where he's wide open the middle field because
we're the teams are having to account for the smith
and a j Brown and Goddard is wide open.
Speaker 6 (36:42):
Please do that.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
So everything that you guys are saying, it all points
back to one spot on.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
The field for me, and it's the offensive line. And
it's got to start up front.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
When we come back on talking cowboys, is this offensive
line hole again in order to take down Philadel?
Speaker 3 (37:00):
Are they talented enough now that they are a whole?
They are healthy.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
All five guys are up front that they can handle
what Philadelphia has on that defensive line.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
We'll talk about that when we come back.
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Yeah, you're right, all right, let's talk about the offensive
line here, and Isaia, you just talked about the defensive front. Yes,
how good they are and how much they do challenge you.
But Patrick, I'll throw it to you to start here
with the five guys up front, everybody being back in
the full, Is this the game where you finally see
this offensive line click against a formidable opponent. Because they
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played well against the Raiders for the most part, they
have not played well against the formid opponent since kuber
Bebe returned. Can this be the game where they step
it up and you finally see what you want to
see out of the investment that you've put on your
offensive line.
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It can in it better. I'm kind of happy to
be it has to be, But I will say this.
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Tyler Booker before injury and coming back off of injury,
now that he has a couple games under his belt,
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We know that he's he's just a road greater, right,
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Speaker 5 (41:00):
To hold up very well against that Eagles interior defensive
line Cooper Bebe. He's a couple of games back now,
I think he gets back into his groove. I think
the Raiders game being his second game back, that was
a good way of getting his confidence back to where
it needs to get. Tyler Smith, I think Tyler Smith's
going to be Tyler Smith. I just need him to
kind of get away from the penalties that are kind
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of starting to crop up with him, right So, and
I know that he can because he's not normally a
highly penalized guy. But that interior offensive line for the Cowboys,
I believe it can hold up and it has no
choice but to. Now the bigger question mark is can
your tackles hold up? Okay, talk about the addition of Phillips, right,
so they're stronger. The Eagles are at the edges than
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they were in Week one, where they were heavy in
the middle and then the edges you were like, eh,
whatever you got That not the case now. I will
say there are some promise here going into this game.
First and foremost, let's talk about Tyler Gotten. Look at
Tyler Gotten's protection numbers from against the Raiders and he
allowed only one pressure with no sacks on thirty four
drop backs. Despite he didn't get a lot of help,
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not a lot of chipwork. Almost eighty percent of the
time he was one v one, So that's promising. He
was on his island more than three quarters of the time,
and he held up well. He only faced Max Crosby
one v one on two occasions, but no pressures allowed.
So Tyler guyton Oscar nominations aside, he acquitted himself well
and now comes a guy like Phillips in this front. Now,
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the bigger question was with Brian Schottenheimer saying that there
was an open competition at right tackle. His words, his
words looks like Terren Steele understood the assignment.
Speaker 6 (42:35):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (42:36):
Terrence Steele's numbers against mostly Max Crosby, okay.
Speaker 6 (42:40):
So Terrence Steel overall had.
Speaker 5 (42:41):
Sixteen out of sixteen reps versus Max Crosby, fifteen of
them were one v one. He only got assistance on
one of those reps. He only allowed two pressures out
of those sixteen total reps fifteen one v one and
no sacks because even the strip fumble that came from
Tyler Guiten's side could argue that Dak held the ball
a little too long, whatever the case.
Speaker 6 (43:03):
Right.
Speaker 5 (43:03):
So that being said, I love what I saw against
a Max Crosby led defensive end room. That gives me
very good confidence that you can repeat it against a
Jalen Phillips led defensive in room.
Speaker 6 (43:17):
But you gotta go and do it.
Speaker 7 (43:19):
There is a word that Isaiah kept referring to last
week when talking about the Raiders defense outside of Max Crosby,
and what was that?
Speaker 6 (43:28):
Right?
Speaker 7 (43:29):
I think that is in large part due to how
well the offensive line played last week. One thing plays
into the other thing. And yes, it was a stout
game from Tyler goiiton it was a stout game from
Terrence Steel considering going up against Max Crosby. But that
is one player, and as Isaiah just eloquently put, they
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have several guys that you got to account for and
worry about, and through the totality of the season, you
have not seen a very consistent Tyler Guiton. I would
not expect a very consistent Tyler Gotton in this game
because of the challenge that's in front of him, and
that's not to dissuade him. And part of me is like, okay, well,
if the feeling that the offensive line gets after this
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Raiders game says like, all right, we're those guys. We
can do this on a week in and week out basis,
you know, fake it till you make it, sure, absolutely,
but you have a real test coming in front of you.
And what we talked about, even if we were able
to beat the Raiders, and granted I think we would
have beat the Raiders had we not had a brand
new look defense, I think that was very much a possibility,
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even with how poorly we were playing. And then you
get these new guys and now you have a you know,
a new sense of like, okay, a new look defense,
this is how we're playing now. Again, that is a
tough tough thing to say after a team like the Raiders.
And I don't want to be like, oh, well, it's
just the Raiders. It's all competition, but you have to
put it in context of like, these guys are really
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really good that you're going up against it, and you
have to have that same mentality if your Dallas again
this week, So you have to come in with that
same grit determination all of those things, and like I said,
even if you're not the best one v one, you
have to fake it till you make it and have
that confidence that you can do it. So I'm concerned
for sure going up against this defense. And this feels
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like another one of those games where the Dallas always
have to be perfect on basically every level team in
the game. So I do I agree, And you're going
up against the team. Sorry, you're going up against the
team that is not playing their best football and still
winning just about it.
Speaker 1 (45:27):
They're playing their best football on the defensive side, though.
I mean they've allowed sixteen points since Week eight and
against two really good offenses Detroit last week they gave
up seven points. Detroit was unstoppable. They going into that
and they could not do anything. And if they got
into the red zone, they knew it was one of
their few opportunities to score and to put points on
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the board.
Speaker 3 (45:48):
So what did they do.
Speaker 1 (45:49):
They went forward on fourth down instead of kicking field
goals because they knew field goals wouldn't have gotten it done.
Speaker 6 (45:54):
So I do agree with Josh.
Speaker 5 (45:55):
One thing plays until the other absolutely correct, and we're
talking about the Raiders, absolutely correct. What I would counter with, though,
is if these numbers that I was seeing from Tyler
Guy and particularly Terrence Steele versus Max Crosby, if these
numbers had a higher percentage of chip blocks and assists,
then I would be more inclined to say, Okay, well,
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it's more so because the interior defensive line against the
Raiders were so poor it allowed for the Cowboys to
throw extra bodies at Max Crosby. Terrence Steele and Tyler
got and they were doing this in one on one
owners island with Max Crosby. So while I do agree,
I would add that context to say what we do
agree upon is that consistency needs to happen. They've been
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inconsistent both of those guys, so they need to replicate
what they did last week. But considering who they were
on an island against last week, Max Crosby is.
Speaker 3 (46:46):
A whole dude, So I'm Phillips is a dude.
Speaker 6 (46:52):
Phillips is not better than Max.
Speaker 5 (46:54):
Noun facts. No, listen this, I just I have confidence,
I truly do. I think that our offense will have success.
You're gonna take some else, You're gonna take some sacks.
You're gonna take some tip balls. You're gonna're gonna you're
gonna take some l's right. It's gonna be a battle royal.
It's gonna be like a game of Pong, going back
and forth. Okay, you're not gonna feel as if there's
just this wave of Yeah, it's not gonna be a
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wave of just all you're just dominating the egos. You're
gonna have a negative play. You're gonna have positive player negative.
It's gonna be back and forth. I have confidence, But
this team has to They have to do two things.
His offense we're talking about. They have to play as
a unit up front. It can't be individuals. And you
have to have emotional intelligence. You have to approach the
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games as a one unit of dogs, like you gotta
go out there with the mentality we're about to put
these casts through the ground.
Speaker 6 (47:45):
Yes, you have to have this.
Speaker 5 (47:46):
You have to have this arrogance in this this approach
to the game. But you have to be able to
know when to cut it off, like when that whistle blows.
You gotta be able to turn the switch off. Okay,
it's not gonna be no clap on all right, like
we're doing here, but you gotta be able to turn
it off.
Speaker 6 (48:00):
Man.
Speaker 5 (48:02):
I'm excited. I'm excited because you're gonna find out who
the heck you are this week.
Speaker 6 (48:06):
I liked it. I like that.
Speaker 7 (48:08):
I like those words.
Speaker 1 (48:09):
A lot of different things gonna happen throughout the course
of this week leading into that matchup with Philadelphia coming
up on Sunday Tomorrow. We're gonna flip it to the
offensive preview for the Philadelphia Eagles taking on this new
look Dallas defense. Can what Dallas did I at the
trade deadline and getting them back from injury?
Speaker 3 (48:26):
Can that help out what this.
Speaker 1 (48:27):
Team is going to do against the Philadelphia offense, who
has not been playing their best football as of late.
More to come this week here on Talking Cowboys for
Patrick no Cy Walker, for Josh Rodriguez, Isaiah Stanback, Chris
Beam in the back of Kyle Yoman saying so long
from Talking Cowboys, We'll see you tomorrow. This has been
a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys
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