Talkin’ Cowboys: Committed to RB Committee?

Isaiah Stanback, Patrik Walker, Kyle Youmans & Josh Rodriguez - the full Talkin’ crew reunite for the first time this 2025 season to discuss the latest Dallas Cowboys news and notes from Training Camp, including running back by committee, offensive line injury concerns, play stock up/stock down and more.

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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Speaker 5 (00:18):
From Dallas Cowboys Training Gap in Oxnard, California. Six scot
tisicks any contents, tosdown and now your hosts Isaiah Standback,
Patrick Walker, Josh Rodriguez and Kyle Yeomans.

Speaker 4 (00:39):
For the first time in the twenty twenty five NFL season.
It is a full crew of Talking Cowboys, presented by
Black Rifle Coffee Company, live from Oxnard, California and the
River Ridge Sports Complex.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
Are we cheersing? Is that what it is? Cheersing the
microphoneb I mean once we get back home.

Speaker 6 (01:01):
We did do it the first time across MIC's.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
And yet it is because what what do you what?
This guy listen, this guy's up always. I can't wait
to attack the twenty twenty five season with you guys.
This is a great way to start it.

Speaker 4 (01:20):
We've got training camp practice today. The pads are coming
back on after the day of shells yesterday. Here's the thing, though,
what's the thing Cowboys jacket? Cowboys shirt?

Speaker 1 (01:33):
Cowboys? What is Isaiah wearing there? What does that say?

Speaker 2 (01:38):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:38):
You got the shorts on? Did you just flash our views?
I didn't know what this was going, but I'm glad,
glad where it ended.

Speaker 4 (01:48):
He's got an NFL Network quarter zip on. That's partially
why he hasn't been here up until.

Speaker 7 (01:54):
Why aren't you wearing the pants sorry, the short pants
suit that you were wearing yesterday.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
Because I ready wore it. Once you wear you can't
wear it again. Absolutely, that money, you can't have money.

Speaker 4 (02:09):
He gave it the Beamer Beamers wearing it tomorrow, Beamers
rocking shorts today.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
If only you guys could see Beamers strut right now.
So I have on quads out as what these guys
are referring to. You know, it's.

Speaker 8 (02:22):
It's it's the season for quads out. You understanding what
I'm saying. I can't really say. I really want to
say that.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
I was like, he's going there.

Speaker 8 (02:29):
And today was international No Johnny Brovo day, No Johnny,
No Johnny Brable, you remember you know who know Johnny?

Speaker 1 (02:37):
Why would it be Johnny Brobo day? That means it's
leg day. That means it's leg day. Okay, Johnny Bravo
was top heavy. He looks like a water burger. Cup
can relate. Yes, yeah, got that water Burger Cup build
people like, say, five hundred yards of lunches today for
those that want to.

Speaker 4 (02:54):
Five hundred, five hundred dardsnod respect, I refuse when I
friends the cowboysfully the clin all right, the cowboys.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
The cowboys are indeed working today.

Speaker 4 (03:09):
And I want to start by one some news and
notes from Patrick Doncy Walk because this injury list is
starting to grow.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
I don't like not just grow, but grow concerning times.

Speaker 6 (03:22):
Yeah, Patrick, what if we just ignored it?

Speaker 1 (03:24):
It doesn't make it go away.

Speaker 5 (03:26):
It's it's not an out of sight, out of my
type deal prow.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (03:31):
I still gotta gotta get back to the field, Okay,
and so it goes. It's not entirely bad, not great though.
Let's start with the offensive line. Obviously, the worst of
them is Rob Jones. Offensive lineman Rob Jones suffered a
fracture in his neck. He will be out for two
to three months. Expectation is mid season. Barneyy setbacks. Also

(03:51):
on the offensive line, Tyler Geiton, as we all know,
had the scare with the A C. L. It is
in fact intact four to six weeks is the prognosis, however,
shot he got to the podium yesterday and said something
very interesting, said that it could quote unquote be a
couple of weeks. It just depends on how the knee
reacts to the rehab and how aggressively without forcing a setback,

(04:14):
Tyler got attacks his rehab. So as it stands, there's
still a very good chance that Tyler got In will
be on the field against the Philadelphia Eagles. Terrence Steele
battled an ankle sprain henkle sprain earlier practice, but he
has returned a few days ago as a matter of fact,
so again it's not all bad news.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
There's some good news. He returned, Yeah, he did.

Speaker 5 (04:33):
Running backs room. Only one injury to report, which is
Deuce Vaughan. He is battling the hamstring injury. Obviously, that
is very key. Forduced. This is another training camp in
which he's given an opportunity to prove himself on the field,
but unfortunately, another training camp in which he is battling
injury that is deleting much needed reps for the young
running back in a room that you know, let's be honest,

(04:54):
they're trying to figure out who's going to take the
lead and that could be plural.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
Okay in the room. Brevin span Ford undisclosed leg injury.

Speaker 5 (05:03):
He's out for two to three weeks, so he'll likely
miss the entirety of the preseason, but the great shot
of being back in time to be TE three and
challenge Luke school Maker, who looks great by the way
for some TE two snaps. Wide receiver Paris Campbell undisclosed
knee injury to be determined on him. We haven't gotten
a proagnosis on Paris Campbell, but I will say it

(05:24):
didn't look promising. I'm not going to say it's worst case.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
A m C IF.

Speaker 4 (05:28):
If that's what you heard, I think it may have
been unreported, but I think MZL was the rumor.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
At least it may have been reported.

Speaker 5 (05:35):
Listen, Kyler is a credible source. Let's go with an
Claris Campbell.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
I'm not trying to report anything.

Speaker 5 (05:40):
I'll confirm it. I'll confirm it as it stands. It
is a knee injury. Nonetheless, however you slice it. Timeline
for return is TBD. Cornerback's Room, KAILN. Carson No, stop it, yeah, can't,
can't stop it. Cornerbacks Room in dire straits getting more
so Kayln Carson stuff for the hyper extended knee. He
will miss four to six weeks. There's a chance he

(06:01):
is back for the opener, maybe Week two home opener
against the Giants. But a room that's poor in determined
depth gets a bit poor. Shouts out to kyer Elim.
He's taken some strides. Andrew Booth had the best practice
of his camping. In the next practice he left with injury. However,

(06:21):
Andrew Booth was back on the field yesterday in Shells.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
I talked to.

Speaker 5 (06:24):
Andrew Booth yesterday kind of off the record. I asked
him how he's feeling. He said he feels great. It
was just something that nagged him a little bit. He
got it worked out. He said, he's a full goal.
We'll see if that's the case when the pads come
back on today. Safety one yea Thomas leg injury, no brace,
no device, But he's not returned to practice yet, so
I'm not sure if.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
That's a soft tissue injury or whatnot.

Speaker 5 (06:44):
But would love to see one year back out there
sooner than later, considering his versatility is on full display
and they're gonna need him both as a safety safety
depth piece, but also you see.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
Him taking some snaps at Nickel corner as well. So
let me just put this this way, leading into my next.

Speaker 5 (07:01):
Yes, really quickly, they did sign. They did sign Christian Matthew.
He's reuniting with Matty Eberfluss. They spent a short time
together in Chicago at cornerbacks. So there's another body coming in.
What does that mean as far as what Matthew can do?

Speaker 1 (07:14):
We'll see you want for like those eleven or twelve injuries, Yeah,
the way.

Speaker 4 (07:18):
But here's the thing that leads into my next question
is we've been through seven practices, seven practices, and yet
there's a list of ten to eleven twelve players with injuries,
an active injury list where guys are not in practice,
off guys.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
About eight or nine guys long.

Speaker 4 (07:38):
The physicality that Brian Schotenheimer wanted to establish, the physicality
that he said this camp was going to be known for,
we've seen it. We've seen it with the scuffles, We've
seen it with the padded practices, we've seen it with
the different drills along the way.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
Josh, is this still a good thing because of the
injuries that are starting to ramp up.

Speaker 4 (07:56):
I mean, I know you want to be physical, you
want it to be a tough training camp to get
you ready for the season. But right now, with this
injury list growing, is the physicality taking a toll.

Speaker 6 (08:08):
I think a lot of the rust is falling off.

Speaker 7 (08:10):
Obviously, whenever you're thudding up, when you're patted up, you're
giving yourself an idea of what it's going to be
like on the field. Not that these players need a
reminder of that, but you need that physicality. You need
that mixed with the discipline that coach Schottenheimer's trying to instill.
The more you're able to do that, the hardened you're
going to get on the field. I don't know this

(08:30):
from experience. I know Isaiah will have much more insight
into this, but when we talked about it, it's like
it's such a far cry from what practices used to
be when you used to be in pads twice a day.
The more you're doing this, the more often you're thudding up.
Any closer you get to the simulation of an actual game,
the better these things are going to happen. Regardless if

(08:50):
it's here or during a game, people are going to
get hurt.

Speaker 6 (08:53):
That's the fact of the matter. That's why you have
a full roster, that's why you have depth. Honestly, more
of it.

Speaker 7 (08:59):
I don't want injuries, obviously nobody does, but we need
more of this physicality.

Speaker 4 (09:04):
Why do you feel like it's more of a talking
point Isaiah now than it was maybe back when you
were playing in the league.

Speaker 8 (09:09):
The rules have changed, you know, the parameters in which
guys are allowed to practice the team, the team activities
have been restricted in terms of the physicality. We used
to get physical a lot earlier than what these guys
are OTAs is pretty much, uh, you know, don't touch
me type of situation now. So when you start talking
about guys getting calibrated to get ready to play physically

(09:33):
one of the most physical, physically demanding sports in the
in the world, you're asking these guys to do it
really had a drop of a hat. They go from
playing in shorts and T shirts. All of a sudden,
you show up the camp for a couple of days,
you know, doing the same thing, shorts and T shirts,
and then it's like.

Speaker 4 (09:47):
All right, let's hit well, have a certain amount of
practices you have to get in.

Speaker 8 (09:53):
Yeah, for sure, exactly, and they're doing the best they
can with the rules and parameters that they have set forth,
but it's not the best per se for the players,
even though the rules and parameters that are set forth
are for the players.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
We're starting to see that injuries are peering.

Speaker 8 (10:11):
Across the board. This isn't just a Dallas Cowboys state.
There's a lot of injuries around the league right now,
acls galore. I mean, there's always an injury of the year.
But the reality is, when you start hitting guys, you
have to your body. Not only the body parts that
you're hitting have to get adapted to it, but your
footwork has to get adapted right, your leverage, your eyes,
everything has to get back calibrated again. And in that

(10:31):
calibration process you have to go through some bumps, and
unfortunately the Dallas Cowboys have sustained their number of bumps
early on in this process. You're just hopeful, and you
understand this as a coach, you understand this as an organization.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
Injuries are going to happen.

Speaker 8 (10:45):
It's just a known thing now, which is why you
come and the scouting department has as many guys as
they can ready in the chamber because they know somebody's
going down.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
It's just a part of the process.

Speaker 5 (10:55):
It's like what Shoddy said, and that what you're saying
right now, Isaiah. It's about building up calluses right now
and in that calibrations, like Stanbeck said, you're going to
have some bumps and bruises. But when you look at
some of these injuries, obviously Rob Jones, you know, the
fracture bone in his neck, you could attribute that to
some physicality, which football is going to football, right Tyler Guidon,

(11:15):
you know the reason he's out because his knee got
rolled up on, right, So that's not that's footwork, that's
that's a football injury. But that's not necessarily a tribute
to the physicality. A guy got pushed down and rolled
into his knee. Things like that duce Von soft tissue injury,
hamstring he's dealing with that one year, Thomas, likely a
soft tissue injury.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
Those things just happen when you're playing football.

Speaker 5 (11:36):
When it comes to potentially turning down the physicality, I
like that the Cowboys are maxing out the physicality within
the parameters of the collective bargain agreement they're doing. They're
pushing exactly where they need to push right up against
the wall versus what we've seen in the past, which
is a team and we've seen this as recently as
last season, so many extra rest days.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
But then did that translate into wins?

Speaker 2 (11:59):
No?

Speaker 1 (12:00):
Also, did it translate into durability? Hell no.

Speaker 5 (12:02):
The Cowboys were easily arguably the worst or the most
injured team, especially at key positions with impact players, of
any of the thirty two teams in the league. So
where did that extra rest translate on the field for
the Cowboys?

Speaker 1 (12:15):
That didn't.

Speaker 5 (12:15):
They put a lot of guys on injured reserve arguably.
So I like where the Cowboys are. I like what
they're doing. And like Isaiah said, this is not exclusive
to the Cowboys. Go and look at the injury reports.
For not injury reports, but go follow the reports coming
out of other training camps.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
They're guys going down left and right at key ziars. Yeah,
for the year, Cowboys have dodged some very real bullets
thus far.

Speaker 5 (12:35):
Because this time, yeah, this time last year, we were
talking about a guy who toys ACL doing a non
contact individual drill around a path. Right, So Cowboys, I
think they're doing just fine. And yeah, they've been bitting
a little bit, but keep going.

Speaker 4 (12:50):
I like the way you mentioned it as building callouses.
I like that metaphor, and I'm going to take it
a step for further because I think right now you're
still doing that and you're able to do that. But
when you're building calluses, sometimes if you attack whatever you
are doing super quickly and you get into it too quickly,
sometimes it turns into a blister.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
That blister pops, it feels bad for a little bit,
and then it callous is over.

Speaker 4 (13:14):
I think we're in that stage, yes, I think we're
in that stage of training camp where we look up
and we're seeing these injuries and it's every day. It's
one or two guys and it's happening, and it may
be a minor thing. It may be a longer thing
like a guid in situation where it's four to six weeks. Again,
knock on wood hasn't been the severe side of it yet.
That would be the blister.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
Popping for me is if there's a severe injury.

Speaker 4 (13:33):
Right now, you've got a blister there, it's there, it's
gonna be there for a little bit, and it's gonna
hurt for a little bit because you're missing time in practice.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
But as long as you keep it from.

Speaker 4 (13:41):
Popping, and it's fine there for a little bit, it's
gonna sting, but then it'll callous over and you're gonna
be fine from that point forward, and hopefully that'll.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
Help you when you get to the season. You've been
in training camps.

Speaker 4 (13:52):
With guys that mentored Brian Schottenheimer. Pete Carroll specifically is
one that comes to mind, and he's talked a lot
about his influence from Pete Carroll in the way that
he's kind of been around it.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
How much have you seen from training camp so far
in the weeks that.

Speaker 4 (14:05):
You've been out here that has relayed to what Pete
Carroll once did during his time with the Seahawks.

Speaker 8 (14:11):
Yeah's really from what I can understand, it's a copy
and paste and that's not something bad. That means that
to coach Carroll. You know, Coach Carroll has had a
lot of success in his career both about the collegiate
and professional ranks. Obviously he's back in it now with
RYTHM Raiders, so I would imagine that they're doing very
similar things. Yeah, But I mean it's about energy, it's
about competition, real competition. When I say, real competition, let's

(14:35):
keep it one hundred and in this, in this professional setting,
a lot of times you can do really good things
if you're a number two or number three guy, but
it doesn't really matter because you're never going to get
that number one spot and you never even though you
might have the best week, they're not going to patch
you on your back and say get in there, go
get some reps with the ones because you're not a one.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
That is changing here with Shaddy.

Speaker 8 (14:55):
If you have a good week and you're competing and
doing your job better than somebody else that's that's ahead
of you on the depth chart, that person's coming out,
you're going in. So you get paid for doing well,
you know what I'm saying, Like, you get the gratification of, hey,
my hard work is paying off, and that is very
important for athletes to know that your work is not
going without being noticed. So that's changed around here at

(15:17):
the energy level, coaches are jumping around. So yeah, sometimes
you gotta fake it so you make it. But if
you create the culture, you create the environment of positivity,
you create the environment of you're blessed to do this,
You create the environment that you want to be here
and I want to do this. Yeah my body hurts. Yeah,
you're tired. So the heck what, Let's have fun. We're
playing a kids game against the best in the world.

(15:37):
Let's make the best of this environment.

Speaker 7 (15:39):
And to your point, I don't think you were necessarily
seeing that over the last two seasons. You were seeing
guys that were working hard and like showing it on
the field that weren't necessarily rewarded the very next week
after an impressive performance.

Speaker 6 (15:50):
There were these arbitrary rules set in.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
It's like, oh, well, this.

Speaker 7 (15:52):
Guy carried the rock for this amount of time, but like,
and you don't have him replicate that success the next week.
I don't think that's the case for this team right now.
I don't think that's the case for Shotennheimer's staff.

Speaker 8 (16:04):
And that really helps your depth chart because I guess
I'm alluding to a lot right now. Tyler Booker right
comes in here, obviously first round, pick all those things,
he gets, thrust it in with the ones. Tyler Booker
had some rough days early on in camp.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
So what do they do?

Speaker 8 (16:18):
Tyler Boker, you're out. You're going to the twoes player.
You gotta work your way back into it. You don't
just get you'll just receive. You gotta have to earn
your spot. So, hey, who do I don't remember who
took his stop?

Speaker 1 (16:28):
Jones? Yeah, Rob Jones.

Speaker 8 (16:29):
Yeah, that's right, Rob Jones took a spot. Unfortunately he's
out right now. But Rob Jones came in and was
applying pressure. But what did you see after practice, Rob
Jones working with Tyler Booker? Is this breeze competition? Everybody
gets better when it's true competition. One of the reasons
why I stepped away from the league is because it
started be coming about about guys being slotted. They started

(16:51):
be coming about relationships with coaches and if I have,
if I'm performing better than you, I.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
Should get rewarded for that, right, And that wasn't the case,
and I was tired of it.

Speaker 8 (16:59):
I got to the point I was like, you know what,
it doesn't matter what I do anymore because I'm never
gonna get that spot, right.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
I don't have that paycheck, I'm not getting that spot.
What's the point of doing it? Right? So, like, what's
the point?

Speaker 8 (17:09):
That's not the case here, And that trickles all the
way down to the lowest man on the totem pole
and that creates this culture of everybody can get it,
everybody can contribute. If you're doing something positive, we will
see you and we will put you in a position
to help this team be successful.

Speaker 5 (17:23):
And to that point, it is in fact permeating throughout
the locker room already when you hear guys like Donovan Ezraku,
a rookie who has no knowledge of the league until
this training camp, comes in and starts talking about how
he's going toe to toe verbally and on the field
with Dante Fowler the defensive ends room. They've established the
point system, and he and Dante on a couple of plays,

(17:44):
they're challenging each other who's going to get to the
quarterback first. And Ezraeku got to the quarterback first to
one particular plane a two minute drill, looked at Dante
and said, where are you at?

Speaker 1 (17:52):
I asked Dante about it yesterday.

Speaker 5 (17:53):
He smiled and said, young guys got some young guys
got some gas behind him, but guess what I'm coming
as well. And then they both are. After that they
said the same thing, which is this defensive endroom can
be special. Why because every single guy they believe, every
single guy can get After the opposing quarterback.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
So not only do you have that heightened level of.

Speaker 5 (18:11):
Competition that this coaching staff and this culture has started
to establish, but you also have the camaraderie between guys.
You talk about Rob, right, we talk about Rob Jones
in the moment getting first team reps over the rookie
first round pick. But then guess what, like Isaiah said,
after practice, what's Rob Jones doing. He's tutoring Tyler Booker,

(18:32):
the person he's competing, right, So that's what you're seeing.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
So it does trickle down.

Speaker 5 (18:35):
It's starting at the top with Schottenheimer, going throughout his
assistant coaching staff and his coordinators, and it's being felt
in the locker room.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
I love it.

Speaker 4 (18:42):
There's a couple of things that we have to hit
when we get into the position battles and the way
that it works. That's one thing that has stuck out
to me in this camp is that you haven't seen
in the past. You've seen guys work with guys, but
the fact that they're directly competing for the same job
and they're still and they're still working with I know
we've engineered a couple of times, and it's important that
is a huge thing that that's the culture that Brian

(19:05):
Shott and he's talking about. That is the example of
what that means to be a true teammate and be
in that situation.

Speaker 6 (19:11):
That's camaraderie building, absolutely.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
And that's the type of stuff.

Speaker 4 (19:14):
It's not just the energy and the fun that they
have in the pads and the props and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
That is the culture, is what he's doing there. And
it's unfortunate.

Speaker 8 (19:24):
I know, we gotta get a break, but but real quick,
where that shows up is I now can cheer for
no see if I'm gas in the game right and
I'm and I'm Dante Fowler Jewelry Junior, and there's a
heck and there's there's a big third down that's coming up,
and I'm absolutely can get it, and I'm like, you
know what, I can stay in here, right because I
really don't have faith in a guy that's kind of

(19:44):
come in and do it, you know, to come in
behind me to make the play. So I'm gonna stay
in here and I'm gonna give it my best, but
I know my best isn't gonna do it. Guess what,
I'm now more opt and willing to tap myself out
the game to let my guy Donovan get in the
game and go make give them a high five on
the way by, and hey, go get it. Yeah, you
know what I'm saying, Like, that's what we're talking about

(20:04):
instead of guys then being selfish and just trying to
stay in in there because guess what, Yeah, those other
guys never really got the reps right, I don't believe
in those guys.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
Now I'm willing to step out right unless somebody else can.

Speaker 4 (20:15):
I need a new contract, Like Dante, he's on a
one year deal about all about winning, and hey, that
might be the situation and the running back room as well.
And when we come back offensive line affecting the running
back room with all these injuries, and is anybody sticking
out out of that group by committee?

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Speaker 1 (22:52):
SIT's all of it together, Talk Cowboys Complex. Right now,
You're darn right. It is Carton, It's training camp.

Speaker 4 (22:58):
D Isaiah Stanba Patrick Noci watched John Rodriguez with Chris
Beam running the whole show in the front. I'm Kyle
yeomans Uh running backs. This running back Battle has been
definitely to watch.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
Is it heating up?

Speaker 10 (23:15):
It is?

Speaker 1 (23:16):
I want to I want to get to that in
a second.

Speaker 4 (23:19):
Is the offensive line and the rotation that we've seen
in the injuries that have started to stack up Josh
on this offensive line. Is that something that's affecting just
how much that running back competition can heat up at
training camp?

Speaker 1 (23:32):
Of course it is.

Speaker 7 (23:32):
I mean you have to take into account the chemistry
of the offensive line feeding into the success of the
running backs.

Speaker 6 (23:38):
But something that I.

Speaker 7 (23:39):
Really really enjoyed on Girls Talk, Boys Talk this morning
when they were talking about the running back by committee
approach is that it doesn't necessarily feel like a committee.
It feels more like a collective and when the running
backs are able to sort of spell in for each other,
they all have juice in one form or another. Like
at this point in time, it could it could change
from today till the start of preseason to the start

(24:01):
of the regular season. But right now, from what I'm seeing,
every single guy is contributing in a big way. It
sucks to see duce Vaughan right now dealing with that
hamstring injury. He's not been able to be in on it.
But when he is out there on that field. You're
getting juice from Ducevaughn. You're getting juice from every single
one of these guys. If you had to ask me
right now, who's starting, I think it's Javonte Williams.

Speaker 6 (24:23):
And I genuinely think that, oh.

Speaker 1 (24:25):
See, that's interesting. That's gonna be a fun thing.

Speaker 4 (24:27):
But hear me out, because I bet you are like
as a group of four, I bet you all are
answers are different.

Speaker 6 (24:33):
Well here's my full answer.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
Or maybe maybe not all of them, but they're going
to be different.

Speaker 7 (24:37):
My full answer is that it's Davante Williams. He has
the most juice right now currently, Like I said, that
can change. And then Jayden Blue is your receiving sort
of third down threat my opinion. And then if you're
thinking in terms of like how the Lions were treating
David Montgomery, like I think Miles Sanders is your kind
of like second half bell cow, you know, he's that

(24:59):
kind of those fresh legs to come in and get
you some crucial first downs. I think if you're playing,
that's just a scenario that I've kind of cooked up
just from watching these guys there year. And I don't
think that Miles Sanders, like doesn't have jews. It's just
a matter of the fact of seeing him with fresh legs,
you know, in the second half of a game. I
think that's kind of where you want to see him.
But it could change who would.

Speaker 5 (25:22):
Be your starter right now, you know, coming into camp,
I am on the record of saying that Javonte Williams
likely had a slight and I do meanin we all
were likely. But now as we go into this next
padded practice, I think Miles Sanders, So I think it's
Miles Sanders. So for me right now, it's Mouths Sanders
because what I've seen from Miles Sanders also that's impressed

(25:44):
me is obviously we've watched him in his time with.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
The Philadelphia Eagles.

Speaker 5 (25:47):
I don't know that he's ever been or that I've
ever noticed as much as I'm noticing now he's more
physical than people give him credit for. Yeah, he definitely
has the ability to do the dirty work and the
heavy lifting in those in those dirty gaps.

Speaker 7 (26:00):
Point though he's a vet at this point, I think
he has to be a little more physical than we've
seen him in the past. I think that's why you're
seeing that now hence the second half sort of votes.

Speaker 5 (26:08):
So to that point, take Week one, for example, against
the Philadelphia Eagles, I specifically as shoddy with you having
questions that left tackle do you how do you balance
giving trust to your left tackle against that defensive front
in Philadelphia versus scheming for it? And one of the
answers he said was against an elite defensive front and
defensive tackles, what do you do?

Speaker 1 (26:26):
You pound the dawn ball and you showed up there
blank right.

Speaker 5 (26:31):
I think Miles Sanders would give you a little bit
more edge in doing that than Javonte Williams, who are
not to say that Javonte can't, but again, it just
feels like Miles is more prepared to take that load,
take on that load up front. So for me, it
would be Miles Sanders, Davonte Williams, and then Jayden Blue.
I do agree with you there, Jay and Blue is
really taking advantage of those added reps that would be
split between he and duce Vaughan, which is why it's

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critical that ducevont get back to the field sooner than later.

Speaker 8 (26:58):
Oh guys, come on, First of all, let me be
on record stating that there's not a drastic difference between
these guys.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
Know, That's why we keep saying the slight, slight, slight
start by that.

Speaker 8 (27:11):
Also, let me start by stating running back by committee
is not a bad thing.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
For whatever reason, I don't see it though. Last year
I don't like. I don't see it that way.

Speaker 6 (27:22):
Last year was a bad thing.

Speaker 8 (27:23):
I'm on record, I'm on record for a very long
time stating that if the offensive line take care of
the business, it doesn't really matter who's towing the rock
in the NFL, because they are all capable of producing. Right,
what is the difference maker? Okay, let's get into that.
The difference usually comes into are you protecting the ball

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number one?

Speaker 1 (27:46):
Number one?

Speaker 8 (27:47):
Okay, protect the ball number two? Are you able to
generate splash plays?

Speaker 1 (27:53):
Number three? Can you pass block? Those are the three
things that really differentiae player from the next.

Speaker 8 (28:00):
Okay, So now let's go to the guys that we're
talking about, Miles Sanders Andvonte Williams.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
They're very similar to me, to me in terms of
who has more juice.

Speaker 8 (28:07):
From what I've seen at camp, I think Williams is
is more is significantly quicker than I gave him credit
for prior to come into camp. He has more bursts
and more explosiveness than I assumed that he had, so
for me, I put.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
Him ahead of Sanders from that.

Speaker 8 (28:24):
From that regard, I think that he has more speed
and acceleration and the ability to get up the top
speed more than Miles Sanders as right.

Speaker 4 (28:31):
Now, interesting because I think I would say the opposite.
That's why that's why we have four different eyes here.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
Yeah, it's close. I mean I don't like it's it's not.

Speaker 8 (28:40):
Like it's it's it's not a It's not a four
or five versus a four to three, right, I mean
we're talking about just from what I'm seeing. When Fonte
Williams hits a hole, he gets through there and you
can see the acceleration at the next level. That's what
I see in terms of who has the best vision,
Jayden Blue Blue has had the best vision to me,
out of everybody.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
Now.

Speaker 8 (29:00):
I know everybody talks about his speed a lot of time.
I know, I honestly haven't seen it yet. I've seen
I haven't seen it yet. I'm looking forward to seeing
looking forward to seeing it in the preseason.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
I don't think we have seen it fully uncorked yet.
Out here, we may not.

Speaker 4 (29:17):
That's the thing about these training camp practices. Tuesday with
maybe Tuesday.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
I think the play that I've really seen it was
the deep play one handed go route. I'm talking about
toting the rocket. Yeah.

Speaker 8 (29:30):
In terms of vision, his vision and his patience at
the line of scrimmage is pretty dog on good for
a young guy man. He'll put his foot in the ground,
he'll jump a hole, boom, he'll accelerate. That's what you
really need in this scheme that we're running, rather his
own scheme type of type of offense. There's a lot
of wait and see. You guys remember the old school
uh Broncos with Terrell Davis. There was a lot of

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wait and see press press, press, press, press, one cut,
get vertical, right, press press, press, ress, press, make one
guy missed.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
Get vertical. Like a lot of that's a typically what
we're gonna see.

Speaker 8 (30:00):
It's going to be a slower, methodical, sorry, methodical type
of offense.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
And that's the expect that's my expectation of this office.

Speaker 8 (30:07):
And then you have the splash plays and the clear
eyes half a running and second half in running and
then obviously in the play action.

Speaker 5 (30:14):
So my question to you say where because one of
the tenants. You're right, the three tenants for running back.
One of the tenants was protect the ball? Yes, where
you with Jayson Blue?

Speaker 1 (30:24):
Right now?

Speaker 5 (30:24):
Now he's not putting it on the ground in camp,
but that that was a red flag for him coming
into the league.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
Where's your comfort level with with him? Right there? Went
now on that.

Speaker 8 (30:31):
I haven't seen it on the ground, So I guess
my carmera level was high at this point. But again,
wait till Tuesday?

Speaker 1 (30:38):
What was that? How many practices? This is gonna be? Okay?
So this is number three and I do know this,
This is not This is not to knock Jayme and
Blue at all.

Speaker 5 (30:47):
I do see the progression as far as protecting the Yeah,
the question will be how does that translate to the.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
Eagles doing it and the defensive line of the Giants
doing it. So that's what I mean.

Speaker 8 (30:58):
That's a different mindset when you know that you're not
going to the ground intentionally. When you know that you're
not intentionally going to the ground. Now, guys are ended
up on the ground obviously it's football, and you're trying
to stay up.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
If he get tangled.

Speaker 8 (31:08):
Tuesday, I don't think that the other teams necessarily don't
care about. So I think you'll get a better sense
once that competitive level steps up. Yeah, what it really
looks like it as a game.

Speaker 5 (31:18):
As it stands, James Blue is, he's on my roster,
He's on my active fifty three. I just need to
see him consistently protect the ball as he's been doing
in camp. Just keep doing it, and you're really gonna
he's gonna push Sanders and Williams.

Speaker 1 (31:30):
Is that group of three?

Speaker 5 (31:31):
It is?

Speaker 4 (31:32):
That?

Speaker 6 (31:32):
That's my three Alam Sanders, Blue Active.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
It's pretty much over by that point.

Speaker 8 (31:37):
I think they're gonna try to force the hand of Lok.
They're gonna try to find a way to get lit
necessarily counting.

Speaker 5 (31:43):
Don't count him in the running backs conversation as far
as active, as like it's three and then my full
back quas I believe that they're going to try to
Hunter makes the Ross find we're not we're not talking
about Hunter in my in my perspective, he's going to
make the RUSS. So when I say I'm I'm carrying
three running backs right now, I'm not talking about Hunter

(32:03):
because he's going to make the roster as like a standalone.

Speaker 1 (32:06):
He's his own island, you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (32:09):
And guys like Phil Maffa, I'm just are destined to
be a well season.

Speaker 8 (32:14):
Possibly, these guys are gonna get a lot opporunities at
the running back position in the preseason.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
Well that's the thing. Still ten days away from the
preseason game.

Speaker 8 (32:20):
We can have our opinions today at that position group,
we won't know a lot until the game start.

Speaker 5 (32:26):
I'm looking forward to seeing MafA do some bruise work.
He's going to be a bruiser in the preseason.

Speaker 6 (32:30):
I believe there's just so many names. I I think
it is a commitative room.

Speaker 7 (32:34):
And like I said, what I really liked was running
back by uh, not committee, but collective. I think that's
it's It's something to watch obviously, but I think we're
really going to get some answers uh in the preseason.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
I really do.

Speaker 5 (32:49):
Cavant Turpin is in the mix also, Yeah, as far
as being utilized as a running back.

Speaker 1 (32:54):
But he's going to make the rosters. Ye, he's gonna
be one of the mean as far as because he's
getting some reps.

Speaker 5 (32:58):
So the reps that they give Kavan say gets removed
from the other running back, So that means you really
need to take advantage of them.

Speaker 4 (33:04):
Every single I'm on record just as much as you
guys were talking about earlier. I'm on a record I
hate running back by committee. I'm just not a fan
of it.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
I don't like it. I like how many teams don't
have that? How many? That's the thing is, it's rare
to not have it, Yes, exactly, Yeah, I mean it's.

Speaker 4 (33:20):
Rare to have Yeah, to have a bell cow theymore,
but you don't have that, and so you got to
make what do?

Speaker 1 (33:27):
What's what's do? But you want one of these guys
to emerge, you know, you don't want all.

Speaker 4 (33:32):
Three guys to just be kumbay all all year long
because they're all going to have six hundred yards.

Speaker 1 (33:36):
I don't mind that.

Speaker 8 (33:38):
I would listen as long as the offense, yeah, is
consistently getting four yards of pop.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
I am okay. I don't give a dog on who
has it in their house.

Speaker 8 (33:49):
As long as they're not putting it on the ground,
and as long as they have an occasional two or
three splash players out of that position group, I don't
care who it comes from.

Speaker 4 (33:57):
That I truly don't see but that's like fun fun
Matt magical world that doesn't exist. All three guys doing that,
then that means you have the perfect line, situation or line.
Somebody's gonna fall short and somebody's gonna step in.

Speaker 5 (34:10):
I will see that point, and I'll raise you the
following point. Ride the hot hand whoever. That might be
the problem with last year and the way they come No,
I'm we're talking about on record.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
I'm on the record.

Speaker 5 (34:22):
I hate the committee, your point, whoever, whomever, who emerges
as the hot hand, rather it be week one, week two,
you ride that because if you look at last season,
the reason it took them so long for Rico Dawdle
to really start becoming that lead back was because they
stuck to the archetype that they had already pre established
before they went into the season. But when Rico was

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the only one really showing the juice, that was the
hot head at the time. Had you continued to ride Rico,
what does this rushing attack look like over the totality
of last year, if you didn't strap them, if you
didn't handcuff him because you were saying, oh, it's committee's
committee's committee.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
You look at these guys, And I.

Speaker 5 (34:58):
Like the word collective if you look at them as
a collective, and you say Miles Sanders, Davonte Williams, assuming
this is the three that make the active roster, not
County Hunter, Lifkey, Miles Sanders, Davonte Williams, Jayson Blue. You say,
go out there, and whoever has the best game today
has the best shot of starting next week, and then
rents and repeat until that person, if that player cools down,
if that player starts.

Speaker 6 (35:16):
To cool, says the most consistent collective.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
Collective. Yeah, I'm with collect committee. Collective, it's the same thing.

Speaker 7 (35:23):
But but let me let me just say this running
back by committee has given us a sour taste over
the past three seasons. Right, we haven't had that guy
that guy considerably in the last three seasons. When other
teams do it, there is more of a cohesive understanding
of one running back over the others taking the ball.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
That's what I like. That's what I like. That's what
I don't like.

Speaker 7 (35:43):
What we've been given in the running back by coach
over the last three that's what I like. We have
to change that, and I think this coaching staff is
doing that now.

Speaker 5 (35:50):
The week Polot Dynamic was very effective with a change
of pace back as RB three.

Speaker 1 (35:55):
We haven't had that. I haven't had it. I don't
like sea words. All right.

Speaker 4 (36:04):
When we come back, I've got some stock ups stock
down for the guys here. I'm gonna tell you. I'm
going to give you a topic. Whether it's a staff
or an individual.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
Or a unit.

Speaker 4 (36:14):
You're going to tell me if the stock is pointing
up or if the stock is pointing down. I got
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Speaker 1 (38:56):
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Speaker 4 (39:00):
Oh no, all right ever skip leg stock up, stock down, gentlemen,
cowboys have gone through seven practices, two of those padded.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
We will have practice number eightven.

Speaker 4 (39:10):
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this practice number three, kads, I'm gonna do a little
stock up, stock down, and at the end, I want
you guys to throw in a couple names that you're saying,
stock up or stock down. But I'm gonna start with
three topics here that since the start of training camp,
this is the direction they've been heading.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
I'm gonna start with the overarching one, Brian Schottenheimer stock
up and stock down? Stock up? Okay?

Speaker 5 (39:37):
Why is that everything that he was saying over the
course of the off season, we're seeing it put into
play on the practice field. One thing he didn't mention
in the off season was the type of disciplinarian that
he would be. But we're seeing his late great father
Marty being channeled through example.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
Yesterday, the guy's got into a skirmish two or three times.

Speaker 5 (40:02):
Three times with fifteen minutes left in practice, Schottenheimer killed practice, said, oh,
you guys want to fight, then let's fight. Made everybody,
everybody from franchise players to the nineth man on the
roster and lineup and run sideline the sideline for the
remaining fifteen minutes before then giving them an.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
Earfull on why he's not going to accept that.

Speaker 5 (40:21):
We're starting to see Shoddy is not simply a great
communicator and a player's type coach. But he's that same
players coach that looked the player in the face and
tell him straight up when you're messing up, and then
make him accountable and make and penalize them for it.
So for me, a stock up, I see everything translating
so far. Again, we'll see how it happens when you
play the Eagles and the Giants and the Commanders and

(40:43):
all these other teams. Time will tell, But as it stands,
I like this hard nosed Marty ball type feel that
I'm that I'm seeing out here.

Speaker 4 (40:51):
You could have done that run yesterday, the back and forth.
Yeah it wasn't really gas, it wasn't, but it was
just getting there and getting back. There were no timers.
Maybe maybe that's the next step show, Maybe that's the
next step. Is it's like, okay, here's the warning shot.

Speaker 1 (41:08):
I like that.

Speaker 5 (41:09):
Maybe you know, sate sideline pain, I'm sorry next time. Yeah,
traumatic looks like one of those.

Speaker 1 (41:26):
All right, stock stock down, you guys agree, stock up?

Speaker 6 (41:30):
Okay, I'm gonna give Brian Schottenheimer stuck up.

Speaker 7 (41:34):
But like a cryptocurrency, because it's not real yet, you
know what I'm saying, Like it's it's going up steadily.

Speaker 6 (41:39):
It's like my bitcoin right now where it's kind of
like it's.

Speaker 1 (41:42):
Stead going how many of those? But it ain't real
because we haven't played.

Speaker 6 (41:46):
A football game yet.

Speaker 7 (41:47):
Man, Once we are playing football games, once it is real,
the statistics are real, all of those things happen, then
I can actually take that money out.

Speaker 1 (41:55):
But we're talking about this point.

Speaker 7 (41:57):
Like I said, it's stuck up, but it ain't order
of one in a quarter of one of your quarter
of one point to to to to one.

Speaker 6 (42:05):
Yeah, that's my bitcoin situation, right.

Speaker 1 (42:07):
I want myn equivalent wasn't but I can't use it yet.
Offensive line stock up or stock down to the beginning
of can because I have.

Speaker 4 (42:16):
A couple different there's a different few folds to this.
Go ahead and give me your ants down as a
stock down stock.

Speaker 8 (42:23):
Down reasons being injuries sustained and also I have not
seen the dominance that I was hoping to see as
a collective unit collective units more than one person collective unit.

Speaker 6 (42:36):
Up front, you can't do offensive line by committee.

Speaker 1 (42:39):
I heard the snort le I'm so done, thing continued.

Speaker 5 (42:48):
I'm going I'm going stock down because of injuries, like
I said, Terrence Steele missed some practices because of injury.
He's back, but you know he wasn't out there for
a couple Tyler guy and he goes down with injury.
Now you're trying to figure out left tackle. Rob Jones
was showing you some things. Now he's out for two
to three nicks with two to three months with the
fracture and his nick. I mean, what you're seeing right

(43:11):
now is Cooper BB be consistent and improve. You're seeing
Tyler Smith still still very much be Tyler Smith. Tyler
Booker is flashing, but like you said, there were things
he struggled with in the beginning, which is why he
went down to second team. So other than Cooper BB
and Tyler Smith, those are my two positives. The other
three positions between injuries and flux, it's stuck down at

(43:32):
the moment.

Speaker 4 (43:32):
It's funny because I would say, Josh, my confidence in
the depth of the offensive line has gone up, but
the fact that you're having to use it so quickly
is going The overarching stock is going down.

Speaker 1 (43:44):
I like what we've seen from Nate Thomas.

Speaker 4 (43:46):
I think he's stepped into a left tackle roll yesterday
and played well. I'm excited to see what he does
with the pads on today. I think that's going to
be a big step forward. I like what we've seen
from guys like Bass and Hoffman.

Speaker 1 (43:58):
That's genuinely what we've seen at right tackle, not at
the guard spot. He was at right tackle.

Speaker 7 (44:05):
Name you didn't mention, which I'm curious about. I guess
your evaluation so far is awesome Richards.

Speaker 4 (44:10):
Yeah, Like I think Richards has had a decent camp.
He's not perfect, not perfect, and I think there's there's
growing that's still happening there.

Speaker 1 (44:17):
But they've put him at left tackle too, and I think.

Speaker 6 (44:19):
You are you are you giving? Are you giving? Not awesome?

Speaker 7 (44:23):
But they have a left tackles a tom Are you
giving him the edge over awesome right now at.

Speaker 1 (44:27):
The moment they are.

Speaker 4 (44:29):
I would have started awesome first and seen what he did,
But now I get why. I mean, I saw that
he had a great practice yesterday. No, Pats still had
a good practice. I want to see what it is
today and then I'll give you a better answer of that.
But I like what we've seen from the death so far.
It's the death. But I also don't like what we've
seen from two first round picks, so you're down and

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your right tackle. So I'm down over all, down overall,
but the death I like.

Speaker 1 (44:54):
A little bit.

Speaker 6 (44:55):
The suck is down.

Speaker 1 (44:56):
But if you want to tell me that it was
up because of the death, I don't think I would
argue with you. But I'm I'm still down.

Speaker 7 (45:00):
Stock is down, but I'm definitely holding on the offensive line.
You have to hold out hope for for this one.

Speaker 11 (45:05):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (45:06):
If you actually have stock in this, it's down, but
you're not panicking yet.

Speaker 4 (45:09):
It's kind of the running back position. Same thing you're
holding out. It's kind of like that.

Speaker 1 (45:15):
Let's say, defensive line, you gotta break it out. You
got to break you see, and that's what's gonna make it.
It's like training. I'm trying to massage those brain muscles
a little bit. We're trying to get you going. It
is combined defensive line upper down. What are you thinking,

(45:37):
I'm gonna I'm go ahead, I'm going up. I'm going up.
I like what I've seen in terms of.

Speaker 8 (45:44):
The schemes in the position of flex that this defensive
line room collectively okay, uh, presents for mat and he
is in his bag. I'm not going to say all
the things that I'm seeing because I think some of
these things he wants to keep tight to his chest,
but he is playing around with every defensive look that

(46:06):
you can ever imagine. He's playing around with all the
different personnel groupings within those schemes that you can ever imagine.
Because of this this competition word that we keep talking about,
there's gonna be plenty of guys that are going to
be collectively making an impact on that defensive front.

Speaker 5 (46:22):
I do like the competition as a sea where I
agree with say I'm going with stock Up. That's That's
what I was going to lead with. And I'm going
to say stock up because though there are some question
marks at Nose Tackle, you know, what are they doing
with Manzi Smith?

Speaker 1 (46:34):
What is that that latest version of the experiment look like?

Speaker 5 (46:38):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (46:38):
I look.

Speaker 5 (46:39):
I like what I'm saying from Salomon Thomas. I love
what I'm seeing from OSA. You're you're getting the Osa
of prime Os. It looks like j Toya pleasantly surprised
me yesterday by being awarded some first team reps. So
there's some progress there and I think remind me of
in terms of just looks Videvelle Nope.

Speaker 1 (46:59):
I wanted to just to say I want him to
put a visor on. If you put a visor on,
maybe you would.

Speaker 5 (47:02):
Know reflective Nope, dark uh NFC Easca, North Green Bay.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (47:14):
Gilbert, Yeah, there it is there. It is there, It
is there, it is I looked up and I was
like that, Oh my gosh, yeah, yeah, I see where
you're going here. It was a black vice around He's
Gilbert Brown. But so there there are there are questions.
Now you're right there, So there are question marks on
the defensive tackle. There are at least some positives there.
And then when you look at the defensive end group,
you could not be more up. You could not be

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more up. So as a whole, I mean you could be.
There could be a guy named Michaeh. Parsons out there.

Speaker 1 (47:42):
I'm factory.

Speaker 5 (47:43):
That would be you'd be He'll be there, surely I'm factory.
Michael in you Again, you could not be more up
with this defensive end room. So, if anything, the d's
are carrying this grade. But there are some positives mixed
in with some of the concerns at DT.

Speaker 7 (47:58):
You gotta love what Salmon Thomas is doing so far.
You gotta love what you see from Osa and the
depth behind it. I mean, like I said, Ja is
doing an impressive job out there with the twos and
like you said, getting reps with the ones as well.
Other than that, the defensive ends are doing excellent. Like
you have to love the the depth that you have

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there easy is just a monster.

Speaker 6 (48:21):
He's getting in people's business. It's almost defensive.

Speaker 1 (48:27):
Smirk. You have to love it.

Speaker 7 (48:30):
There is a big question mark for me at defensive tackle,
but so far, so good as far as defensive line goes.

Speaker 6 (48:38):
As a whole, stock is way.

Speaker 1 (48:39):
Up on defense and really quickly.

Speaker 5 (48:41):
I'd be remiss if I didn't mention Perry on Winfree
is he's he's standing out. I'm not going to say
he's out there, you know, taking over, but he's standing out.
So that goes to the DT equation.

Speaker 6 (48:51):
I saw Tyrus Wheat blowing a dude up yesterday.

Speaker 1 (48:55):
Yeah yeah, yeah, we we when it comes to yeah yeah,
we's a sleeper when you see that no one out
the game wrecks in the preseason. You know what position?
Defensive end?

Speaker 8 (49:08):
What do you know?

Speaker 4 (49:09):
Anybody y'all want to throw out their stock ups, stock
down stock that's a big stock and I'm going to
leave it there.

Speaker 1 (49:14):
What about Joe Milton? Stock up? Stock down down? I
think so too.

Speaker 6 (49:18):
Stock down on Joe Milton.

Speaker 1 (49:20):
Yeah, why is that? Well, there's there's a lot of pretsons.
Why but we don't have to at the time.

Speaker 6 (49:26):
Real quick, But are you looking forward to seeing him
in the preseason.

Speaker 1 (49:28):
Absolutely, we're gonna We're gonna see a ton of and
he has turn his stock around.

Speaker 6 (49:33):
But if your stocks down, I mean you're just like, okay,
well then you know no.

Speaker 5 (49:36):
No, no, no, don't stock mark. It's the stock market
in an instant can it can explode.

Speaker 1 (49:43):
He's going to be here.

Speaker 4 (49:44):
Yeah, they invested anybody else names go receivers, Yeah, receivers
stocking up, stock.

Speaker 5 (49:50):
Down, mingle mingo down, that said mingles up. Let me say,
let me say this practice squad Holden is open. Yeah, yes, seriously, he's.

Speaker 1 (50:06):
Got a good camp.

Speaker 6 (50:06):
So I'm dead serious.

Speaker 7 (50:07):
Practice squad stuck up because you're seeing some guys step
up here. And we've talked about it even in the
last seasons where it's like the when you needed receivers
to step up to that wide receiver three position last year,
it wasn't really I mean, it happened in spurts. One
guy would have day, another guy would have a day.
Treh On Holden has been very consistent so far. I
like watching him. Whenever I get out there, I kind

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of look for his number. And even Ryan Flinoy yep,
I like what you're seeing from him so far.

Speaker 6 (50:33):
Uh, just building a topic about it.

Speaker 1 (50:36):
Change his number. We gotta go. Gam is gonna start
unplugging microphones to start spam.

Speaker 4 (50:42):
But we also forgot. We forgot to give our comments
of the day. Jeremy said, Isaiah hitting the punching bag
was crazy week. Not gonna lie dot dot do crazy
weezy crazy crazy week week crazy crazy all right for
Isaiah still back, Patrick, you know see Walker, Josh Rodriguez,
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Speaker 1 (51:04):
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