Talkin’ Cowboys: Eze Does It

Patrik Walker, Tommy Yarrish & Josh Rodriguez put a cap on week one of Cowboys training camp, stand out players so far, and more

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This he's Talking Cowboys training live.

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From Dallas Cowboys training camp in Oxnard, calist titsdown.

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And now your hosts Isaiah Standback, Patrick Walker, Josh Rodriguez,
and Kyle Yeomans.

Speaker 6 (00:40):
Welcome to Talking Cowboys. We are live if I'm training
camp in Oxnard, California. It is a nice sunny seventy
three degrees. I am Josh Rodriguez filling in for Kyle Yeomans.
Isaiah Standback will also be back next week. I'm here
with Patrick Nocy Walker, I'm here with Tommy Ursh. Christopher
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Speaker 6 (02:29):
It's gonna get a little chippy out here. Yeah, I
guess we're else. It's getting chippy. You like that?

Speaker 9 (02:34):
A good transition on the practice field quality.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
Getting chppy on the practice field quality.

Speaker 6 (02:40):
We're getting into practice, We're getting into this. Day four, Day.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
Five, Well, were two practices down.

Speaker 6 (02:46):
Now, okay, fair enough, shoddy address the fights that were
happening at camp. We saw one early on day one,
No big deal, A little skirmish, no big deal.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (02:57):
Day two was a little interesting, a real chippy. Maybe
a punch or two thrown. I don't know. Sources say maybe.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
A source informed there was a couple of punches thrown.

Speaker 6 (03:10):
Shotty talked about it. Punches can't be We can't be
throwing punching out there. Can't do it is And I
know he's talking about a new culture and being intense,
finding ways to be intense, but you have to be
disciplined at the same time. Boy, is this this is
toxic culture that we're seeing in Brian Schottenheimer.

Speaker 8 (03:30):
No, I mean this is normal. I think this is football.

Speaker 6 (03:33):
I think you heard it from contact sports.

Speaker 8 (03:35):
Yeah, it's a contact sport.

Speaker 9 (03:37):
And these are these are guys who have been wanting
to go for a while now, right, and now they
finally get a chance to kind of let it out
a little bit, and you know, not not as much
as they should be. You know, pads come on on Sunday,
there's gonna be plenty of opportunities for you to go
and hit somebody. Uh So you know, you just gotta
you just gotta know how to practice, right, and you
gotta know how to practice. This is their first time

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practicing under Brian Schottheimer. I think you know as well
as you as well as he could. He shut everything
down pretty quick, and the Cowboys staff shut everything down
pretty quick. But punches and stuff like that, you know,
pushing and shoving, that's one thing, right, Like that's naturally
gonna happen. Like Keemon Hall and Ceedee Lamb got into
it yesterday and they got into so you know, they

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got in a shove match. Throw the ball and that's fine.
These guys are going at it there. You know, I
think Dak put it really well, in his in his
press conference, it's like, man, these guys are fighting for jobs.
You know, they're fighting for their livelihood out here. So
it's intense. It's gonna be high pressure and naturally, is
you know, just human nature, that stuff's gonna happen.

Speaker 8 (04:36):
So you just can't let it boil over too far.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
Is it toxic? Absolutely not.

Speaker 7 (04:39):
You know what I would view as toxic, uh a
football team, Well, of course, but a football team that
doesn't show physicality, does not show intensity, he shows some
type of you know, lackadaisical behavior toward what is another
pivotal season for the Dallas Cowboys. I mean, this is
a pressure pecked season for reasons on several layers. Of course,

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the most prevalent is going to be the fact that
you're bringing in a new head coach. But on top
of that, this is his first time as an NFL
head coach. He has a lot to prove as early
as year one. So if you're Brian Schottenheimer, you want
and I love what Dak Prescott said yesterday about it.
He said that it's about walking the line. He said,
it's a fine line.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
Excuse me.

Speaker 7 (05:23):
It's about being competitive but not being combative and that's
what it needs to be. But he said it's healthy,
and I agree with Dak Prescott it is healthy. But
I also agree with Brian Schottenheimer and saying you can't
throw punches.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
You absolutely can't throw punches. A shovy match here and there.

Speaker 7 (05:37):
Okay, Fine, that's called alpha males squaring off in a
circle and getting their business on. Okay, But when it
comes to you know what we saw in Day two
with a huge scrum and a couple punches were thrown
here and there. That can't happen because if you're allowing
it as a head coach to happen in practice, then
you're going to ultimately have a hard time policing it

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in a game when that third down is on the line,
the quarter is on the line, the game is on
the line, and that's going to be the difference. Especially
in a division that says feverishly competitive as the NFC East,
that can be the difference between you making the playoffs
and you being on the outside looking in by one
or two games. So we talk about penalties, self discipline,
being able to control what you can control. You can

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control what your hands are doing when when it comes
time to, you know, get face to face with a guy.
And on top of that, I am eternally on the
on the level of one of the dumbest things I've
ever seen in life. And I play ball. Why would
you throw a punch of a guy wearing a helmet? Yeah,
the helmet always wins.

Speaker 8 (06:38):
It's always a good question.

Speaker 6 (06:40):
It's an interesting decision. But as you're saying, you know,
motions are high, you have you're competing and getst one
of them, showing that there.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
Are dogs out there, which I love.

Speaker 6 (06:50):
I like seeing it. But as brianon shot number said
that there has to be a way to discipline it.
And another thing that you wrote in your article following
up Brian Schottennhammer talking about it is that when you
have aggressiveness to that level, when you control it, it
is all the more dangerous. That to me is indicative
of who this team. It's a good thing that early

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on in camp we're seeing these things, but you don't
want that to reflect on the field on Sunday when
you're going against teams, finds can be incurred and you
can get players eliminated off the field, you know, thrown
off the field for throwing punches. It's not good. We've
seen it before. We don't want to tap it.

Speaker 7 (07:27):
Here's what I said, and feel free to check out
the article on Dallas Cowboys dot com that I wrote
based upon what Shody said about how he's policing and
how he expects the Dallas Cowboys to act in practice.
And for those of us that were present in real time,
it was refreshing to see Schottenheimer's response, Oh, he.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
Got into it.

Speaker 7 (07:45):
If we got into it, there were f bombs flying
all over the place, and then magically there were no
other incidences thereafter in that particular practice. Of course, we
had almost one yesterday. But then what do we see.
Schottheimer runs in, He helps pull keem on on, haul
off Keimon had he had it cocked back.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
What did Schattahammer say, don't do it.

Speaker 7 (08:04):
Don't do it because Schottenheimer is going to penalize these
guys as it would be in the game. You're probably
gonna miss some reps out here in practice, you might
get a fine by the team out here in training camp.
So ultimately to your point, Josh, like I said in
the article, intensity plus control equals wins equal success. That's
how you do it. You need to be the most
intense you can be. But at the end of the day,

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you have to stand on that razor's edge effectively.

Speaker 6 (08:28):
And holding players accountable, I think is a huge part
of it too. And holding the coach except responsble.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
What accountability word again?

Speaker 6 (08:35):
It keeps coming up.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
Coming up with Schoenheimer's culture. Okay, I like that. I
like tasty, spicy.

Speaker 6 (08:42):
Another thing you guys can control, or are the players
can control on the field, turnovers. Yes, that's been a
big emphasis, at least for me watching practice over the
past couple of days. You're seeing a lot of turnovers.
You're seeing the defense making a lot of plays now,
I guess outside looking at and when you hear about interceptions,
I think at practice, especially a training camp, when you're

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instilling a brand new offense, those are it comes with
the territory. You want those chances to be taken out
here versus on Sunday against whoever.

Speaker 8 (09:14):
It is.

Speaker 6 (09:15):
My thing is fumbles, ball security. We're seeing quite a
bit of that so far. First week of camp, first
couple of days, instilling those things. Does that concern you
at all about Shoddy's offense?

Speaker 9 (09:30):
Not necessarily, you know, I think the fumbles that we've seen, right,
I think when you think about earlier in practice, these
are way after the play is blown dead, right.

Speaker 8 (09:41):
These are training camp reps to where, hey, they.

Speaker 9 (09:43):
Want everybody to run through the finish, right, they want
everybody to run through the finish. I mean, I think
back to the one that Donovan Wilson knocked out.

Speaker 8 (09:50):
I don't remember who the.

Speaker 9 (09:51):
Receiver was, but he was twenty thirty yards down the
field just thinking he was fine, and then Donovan Wilson
comes in and punches the ball out. So there's a
catch twing two, right, Because on one hand, when Matty
Eberflus's defensives have been at their best, they're forcing turnovers.

Speaker 8 (10:07):
Their stop of the run.

Speaker 9 (10:07):
We talked about that extensively, and so when you see that,
you know, Malik Hooker getting a one handed pick, Zion Childress,
the undrafted free agent at of Kentucky getting a pick.
Those are all things that you know encourage you. And
those were two plays that and those guys just made
it. It wasn't necessarily a bad I guess you could say
it was bad passes from Dak.

Speaker 8 (10:25):
And Joe Milton could throw the picks. But those guys
made a heck of a play so.

Speaker 6 (10:32):
Interception that today that.

Speaker 7 (10:35):
That's an example of it was not a bad pass.
Malee Cooker just made the play.

Speaker 9 (10:41):
I think dak On the through it a little a
little bit and it allowed him to make the less
it was.

Speaker 8 (10:47):
It was a great play.

Speaker 7 (10:48):
And now will say there have been a bad pass
or to the past the pick by Marshawn Knelan.

Speaker 8 (10:58):
Yeah, that wasn't.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
So it's a Thommy's point.

Speaker 7 (11:02):
It's a mix of Well, first of all, to answer
your question, no, I'm not concerned with the offense because
I believe the offense will get that cleaned up. Because
we talk about Brian Schotenheimer taking over as head coach.
Guess what, he's also taken over his offensive play caller.
You have new pieces in play, whether it be George Pickens,
whether it be you know, Tyler Gotton going in the
year two, Tyler Bookie, Tyler Booker or rookie right guard.

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Four new faces in the running backs room. The list
goes on and on. So they need time to kind
of finish their installation in jail. From an ebra flu standpoint,
that makes it easier for your guys to make plays
on the ball, right, and when you're talking about punching
the ball away, which is you know, just one example
of that's not.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
Based on scheme. Right.

Speaker 7 (11:43):
So while the Cowboys offense is working on scheme and
routes and timing and things like that, if you're a
defensive player, one thing that's never going to be predicated
upon what the scheme was, what the play call was,
is if you're near me and that the ball is
near me, I can punch at it. Okay, if you
make the throw and I'm in the vicinity, I can
go up and try to get the ball. So kudos
to the defense. I mean, they're just taking the ball
away time and time again. Alie Cooker kayer Elam. You

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mentioned Zon Childrens, Donavan Wilson's punching the ball free.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
I mean, these guys are really getting.

Speaker 7 (12:11):
After the on defense and it's going to what Schottenhammer
is predicting in that the Cowboys quote unquote will be
one of the top teams in the league and take
away So far so good. We'll see if it plays
out in a very dan Quinnish way, but so far
so good.

Speaker 6 (12:24):
Well, keep me honest, do the interceptions kind of give
you guys any sort of like, are you fine as
far as like them learning this new offensive scheme? Are
you fine with seeing an interception or two? Or is
it just like literally, I don't want to see it
at all.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
I'm fine seeing it in training camp.

Speaker 6 (12:40):
It's training camp, and it's the first one to get
it out the way.

Speaker 9 (12:42):
It's no training I thine like, I think that sometimes
maybe we put too much stock into you know, Dak
has two picks on the day, it's the guy's gonna
throw interceptions. He's gonna throw interceptions in the regular season.
Every quarterback does. It's gonna have And you know, this
is a guy who's coming back from injury. He's still

(13:05):
I don't know if he's knocking the rust off at
this point because he was there for OTAs and things
like that, but you know, he's getting used to a
new receiver in George Pickens and trying to understand what
Brian Schottenheimer wants. I don't know if if Dak necessarily
going into year ten and he's had several years working
with Brian Schottenheimer, if there's necessarily a lot that he
has to pick up or a lot that he has

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to learn or a lot that he has to change
at this point in his career. But nonetheless, it takes
time to mesh everything together, and it takes time to
get back up to training camp speed, because I think
training camp speed is different than Ota speed. Ota is
a lot of install and you know, getting these guys
up to speed, and you know it's the guys around
him too, George Pickens getting comfortable and these running backs

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getting comfortable to running backs tack Prescott's never played with,
and right now they don't have pads on, so we
can't really tell a lot from.

Speaker 8 (13:52):
The running backs. So no, it doesn't concern me at all.

Speaker 9 (13:55):
It's gonna happen, and it it's.

Speaker 8 (13:58):
Gonna happen again.

Speaker 9 (14:00):
Prescott's gonna throw more interceptions during training camp, but he's
also gonna throw touchdowns. I mean, I thought the offense
responded pretty well yesterday. After those first couple of picks.

Speaker 8 (14:08):
It looked rocky at first, but they made some good
plays down the stretch.

Speaker 6 (14:11):
Well, wasn't it. After the Mollie Cooker interception. Immediately following
that play was one of the best passes I'd seen
all of camp, back to George Pickens in a corner
route yeah, just insane man.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
Yeah, George.

Speaker 6 (14:27):
That and not to mention just the relationship that in
chemistry the DACK is already building with George Pickens this
early in training camp. I mean, that's like one of
my favorite things to see is George Pickens out here
because it looks like he's having a great time. I
don't know what was going on in Pittsburgh, but it
seems like he's very happy to be here.

Speaker 7 (14:43):
It bears mention in what you just said in that
George Pickens. Again, don't know where the narrative came from
out in Pittsburgh. I'm not in Pittsburgh, so I don't know.
All I can do is based upon what I'm seeing,
and George Pickens is having the.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
Time of his life's out here.

Speaker 7 (14:57):
And if you don't believe less, there are plenty of
video that show him dancing and celebrating with cde Lamb.
You know, the grenade celebration.

Speaker 6 (15:05):
Just that from us. Actually we typically do that after
the show, and then they saw us doing it and they.

Speaker 7 (15:09):
Were like, oh, well then I got it from ronald'cunye.
So but I mean, yeah, I got it from Ronald d'acunya.
I I Thommas got it from Ronald mc but no, again,
just to recap really quickly, I mean, this is an
offense that not only are they looking to install a
new scheme in Brian Schottenheimer, but Shotty keeps talking about

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multiple looks, multiple sets, right, so they're trying to install
multiple things under center Shotgun. You saw Dak Prescott take
off on a read option yesterday. So while they're doing
all of this and trying to get time in and
everything down, atdvantage defense because all you have to do
is react to an offense that's.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
Still working out a lot of tweaks.

Speaker 7 (15:48):
So are there some you know, throws that Dak Prescott
and Joe Milton and Will Greer want back through.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
The first two practices, Absolutely there are.

Speaker 7 (15:56):
There are some bad throws there, but then there are
some throws that it was just an athletic place. So
kudos to the defense. But again to your point, do
I care about am I worried? Should I say, am
I worried about interceptions and training camp?

Speaker 1 (16:08):
No? Because this is when you experiment.

Speaker 7 (16:10):
This is when you see what works, so that when
you get to the regular season and it's September fourth
and it's against the Philadelphia Eagles.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
You know what to try and.

Speaker 7 (16:17):
What to not try, what don't don't, don't do that,
but do that?

Speaker 6 (16:23):
All right, boys, I have a big question for you guys.
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All right, boys, one offensive player, one defensive player that
stood out the most in Week one. All right, I
need you guys, give me just one one apiece. Tommy,
you want to go.

Speaker 9 (20:22):
First, Well, defense is easy, Donovan is roku defense. Well,
defense is pulled?

Speaker 1 (20:30):
Yeah, what did I just It's a bar either way?

Speaker 9 (20:34):
You did actually exactly what I was going for. No,
the defense is easy, and Donovan is making it look
very easy. See that's even better. But you know this
guy's when we were talking about him on the Draft show,
I think in the point that we made a lot
of times was, hey, this is a guy who is
one of, if not the more pro ready.

Speaker 8 (20:54):
Guys coming out of the draft.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
Right.

Speaker 8 (20:56):
This is a guy who led the A, C, C
and sacks last year.

Speaker 9 (20:59):
He won the word for the best college football defensive
end last year, and he was just dominant at Boston College.
And I think yesterday was the day, like it's his
second practice was really good, but yesterday was a day
where you know, when I was doing training camp a
love with Mickey or just standing on the sideline on
the back of the end zone, I'm like, man, he
is beating everybody. I mean, his first step is unbelievable.

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He's got great bend. The bend is something that we
talked about all the time with him, where he can
just blow past you and he can use his arms
really well to just make the right move and beat
the tackle. And you know, Tyler Guiden's a guy who
has had some good reps, but man, Donovan is rock
who had him beat bad a couple of times out there.
And so you know, we've talked about a lot of
the defensive end room, like this is one of the

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more deep rooms that the Cowboys have on.

Speaker 8 (21:46):
This roster deep. Indeed, there you go. If Donovan is
a Rock turns out to be the second.

Speaker 9 (21:53):
Best defensive end on this team behind Michael Parsons, the
Cowboys are going to be.

Speaker 8 (21:58):
Set there for years to come. Because I think this
kid's the real deal.

Speaker 9 (22:01):
He's going to be a really good football player for
a really long time, and he's just starting to show
the flashes here early of what he can be.

Speaker 6 (22:09):
Patrick, before you give your defensive give me a little
bit more about easy.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
Well, it's funny you meant you say that, because that's also.

Speaker 8 (22:18):
My I feel like that.

Speaker 9 (22:20):
I feel like there's guys who has had good days,
but as a Rocket, the last two practices just blows.

Speaker 7 (22:26):
You'll be a consensus right now and everything Tommy said,
and let me add to this, he's already and I
tweeted this as a rookie, no exaggeration, no, how perfectly
as a rookie coming into the league, he's easily one
of easyly one of the best. Should yeah, one of
the best technicians at his past rush that I've seen,

(22:47):
and not just so rookie as a rookie, not just
so technically sound in one or two moves. He has
the array of pass rush moves and the ability in
Schoenheimer said this to me yesterday or before when I
asked him about easy He said, he has the ability
to set the edge as well, which we're seeing as
far as run defense on the edge goes.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
But when you talk.

Speaker 7 (23:07):
About for the dip the bend, the first step is
absolutely insanity. His first step is instantly comparable to two
players on this defense in this defensive end room, Michael
Parsons and Sam Williams.

Speaker 6 (23:19):
Insane.

Speaker 7 (23:20):
And that is an insane compliment for a rookie who
did not play at a huge program. But by the way,
he's a record setter at his program in Boston College.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
You see everything you need to see from this guy
and more.

Speaker 7 (23:34):
That not only justifies him being the second round pick,
but you start to wonder why he fell out of
the first round.

Speaker 6 (23:40):
But to that point, though, when you're choosing a defensive
end one of the most important positions in our game,
but when you're choosing one in the second round, you're
typically drafting a guy that has a move maybe hey
traits all the possibilities high ceilings. What this guy is
showing you out here is that he looks like he
has as sort of all of those things combined into

(24:02):
one package. For a second round defensive end of his
caliber to be picked that late in the second round,
it's impressive.

Speaker 9 (24:09):
And you know, I'm gonna use the line from my
good friend Vach Lombardi.

Speaker 8 (24:14):
Teams don't know how to draft.

Speaker 9 (24:16):
Teams don't know how to draft, and so you know,
when we look back at this draft three years down
the line or five years down the line or something,
you're gonna look at guys ahead of down of Azeraku
if he, you know, continue Obviously we don't know what
kind of career he's gonna have, but I could very
well see a scenario where it's like, how on earth
did you think this guy was gonna be better than Azaraku?
And you know, it just goes back to when I

(24:37):
talked to Bill O'Brien about this kid earlier in the
off season after the Cowboys drafted him.

Speaker 8 (24:42):
You know, there's he's a little bit undersized.

Speaker 9 (24:44):
You know, he's not necessarily the tallest guy at defensive end,
he's not necessarily the stockiest guy, but he's just so
technically sound. And that's what Bill O'Brien, who has seen
some very good defensive ends in his day, namely a
guy like JJ Watt.

Speaker 8 (24:58):
You know when he was with the Houston Texans.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
What he did.

Speaker 8 (25:00):
I think. So it's a bit hard.

Speaker 9 (25:02):
Or something, but you know, this is a guy who
just finds a way to get him too the backfield.

Speaker 8 (25:07):
And it's a guy who's.

Speaker 9 (25:09):
You know, was he's the first person that Bill O'Brien
that when he took the job at Boston College. This
is a guy who loves football and he loves being
a leader on his team. So it wouldn't shocked me
at all if this guy is a centerpiece for the
Cowboys defense going forward.

Speaker 7 (25:21):
And now I'll say this one final inclosing on Israeku
is his ability coming in? And well, it's early. We'll
see what his trajectory continues to look like, but my god,
is he off to a fast start. But what it
does is we're sitting here talking about a rookie after
day two being the biggest defensive standout in a defensive endroom. Granted,

(25:42):
Michael Parson is not on the field right now, but oh,
by the way, Dante Fowler's out.

Speaker 6 (25:46):
There, and Dante Fowler's on a revenge tool.

Speaker 7 (25:48):
And Dante Fowler looks fantastic and we're still talking about
Israelku a rookie, so Ezraku doing what he's doing, it's
gonna push Dante Fowler even more so than Dante's already
been pushed on his revenge tour. Coming off a career season,
Sam Williams has more than enough motivation to get out
there already, having missed all of last season with a
toWin ACL talked to Sam yesterday and he said, with

(26:10):
a smile, when it comes, when the pads get on,
he was like, I'm going to try to kill somebody
at least once.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
He was like, already has He said, I want everybody
to be safe. This is his quote.

Speaker 7 (26:19):
He said, I want everybody to be safe, but at
least once, I'm going to try to kill somebody.

Speaker 8 (26:23):
He killed Tyler Neville on the first day.

Speaker 7 (26:25):
So it's point bean when you see this level of
ability within this defensive end room, including Azeraku, this level
of competition where they're looking at each other saying anything
you can do, I can do better, And let's not
forget Marshawn Kneeling first camp interception. And he's also going
to look the challenge as well, he's still my dark
horse as far as breakout potential, breakout player in camp.

(26:46):
This defensive end room, we talk about the concerns rightfully
so about defensive tackle, defensive end.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
I have no concerns. He's very exciting.

Speaker 6 (26:53):
Okay, I'm gonna change it up a little bit. Obviously
easy is the standout on defense, and especially for a
rookie at this point, I want to be a little different,
and I want to look at one Marris Lea foul. Boys,
he's flying out, He's flying, he looks lean, he looks
so fast. From his interview now on Dallas cowys dot com,

(27:17):
he was saying that the game is sort of slowing
down for him. The way I've seen him diagnosing defenses
so far is not typical in the way that you
would see a second year player now learning a brand
new defensive scheme. I'm surprised to see that sort of
jump from him so far having to learn a new
defensive scheme. So I really do want to give a

(27:38):
quick shout out to Mary sleefoul. But what do you
guys seeing on the field. You guys are definitely on
there a lot more than I am, so I kind
of want your emphasis on this.

Speaker 9 (27:45):
Yeah, no, marys Leefoul is a guy who, you know,
towards the end of the year last year, got more
opportunities and got to make the.

Speaker 8 (27:51):
Most of them.

Speaker 9 (27:51):
This is a guy who is better as a blitzer
than I think people give him credit for.

Speaker 8 (27:56):
But a super smart player.

Speaker 9 (27:57):
He had all the smarts coming out of order day
and he was a five year player I think at
Notre Dame. So this is a guy who's played a
lot of football, He's played at a high level.

Speaker 8 (28:06):
And who knows the game really well.

Speaker 9 (28:07):
And that's what this coaching staff has always been very
complimentary about him with. And you know, he's got a
coach in Matti Refluse that kind of has the mind
as touch when he comes to linebackers, right, this guy
has a very strong track record of producing high end linebackers.
I mean, you just look back in Chicago Tremaine Edmonds,
and of course I'm blanket on the other guy's name.
I can literally see his number, but I beg your pardon.

(28:29):
But this is a guy who knows linebackers, who knows
the position really well, and he has a past history
of making sure that these guys play well in his system.
But also making sure these guys know the position really
well and can be leaders on the defense. So whether
that's Maris Leefou who in his rookie season was the
backup green Dot to Eric Kendricks, which I think says

(28:50):
a lot about his football acumen and his knowledge of
the defense already. Obviously, transitioning to a new system may
change things, but you know, this is a guy that
the Cowboys are looking and hopefully continue to take the
next steps and continue to get down so that he
can get some more playing times.

Speaker 7 (29:04):
And to Tommy's point, as far as Meris being, you know,
getting tutored and talked and coached by Matt Eberflus when
Iberflus was here in his first stint with the Cowboys
and his linebackers coach. Yeah, he had an insane talent
in Sean Lee. Unfortunately, you know, fifty couldn't stay healthy. However,
the talent was there. You saw what Sean Lee was
able to do win healthy. But then he coached up

(29:25):
guys like Anthony Hitchins to getting big free agency deals.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
Right being effective at what they were doing.

Speaker 7 (29:31):
So this is the type of coach that Meris is
is combining his ability with and the ability is through
the roof because even coming out of Notre Dame, what
was one of the biggest positives for him, It was
football acumen. It was his ability to rediagnose and absorb
entire playbooks. And it's showing now because the game is
slowing down for Merit and it looks like on several
fronts during you know, a rep here or there, that

(29:52):
he knows to play before the offense knows the play
because he's there at the spot by the time the
ball carry gets to the spot, whether it be a
handoff of it be an outlet passed to the you know,
left or right of center.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
So merist Is is poised, especially with.

Speaker 7 (30:06):
The absence of overshown for a large chunk of the season,
maybe half the season. I don't know the way he
was running yesterday. We'll we'll, we'll see. But a lot
is going to be put upon Marris a foul. A
lot was put upon him last year. And what did
he do? He stepped up like Tommy sat and became
the green dot behind Eric Hendrick go when Eric Kendricks
went down. Sambourne is coming in with a particular role,

(30:29):
is coming in with a particular set of skills.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
I like it, Liam Neeson.

Speaker 7 (30:33):
But really, going forward, the future of the Cowboys linebacker
Corps has two names written all over it to Marrion
Overshawn and I think Marist is gonna show as early
as this season.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
Why that is, I.

Speaker 9 (30:47):
Think the entire I saw the entire Cowboys training staff
collectively faint when.

Speaker 7 (30:53):
He claimed it was only seventy percent when I when
I dropped the clip on Twitter and thanks for pointing
it out to me telling me he responded, he said
it was just seventy percent. And then kind of funny
off the off the cove, Josh and I last night,
we're getting ready to go and see Fantastic four and
then who walks up to us with the biggest smile
on his face? To Marvey on Overshow, and I said, Demo,

(31:13):
was that really seventy percent? And he was like, oh,
it probably was less. Yes, please, he's blazing out there.

Speaker 9 (31:20):
Yes, please take it easy, man.

Speaker 8 (31:26):
That's take it easy, buddy.

Speaker 6 (31:29):
That took him an entire segment. So when we come back,
we're going to get to our offensive standout of camp
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Speaker 6 (35:10):
He's all right, all right boys? Uh final segment. Yeah,
let's talk about offensive standouts now. I want to before
you guys get into the the hot players, the the
what the playmakers, the receivers taking the low hangar fruit,
the touchdown getters out there, I need a quick shout
out to a certain player that I think is carrying

(35:35):
himself like a veteran while being the first round pick
of the twenty twenty five NFL season, and that is
one Tyler Booker.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
Yes, boys, what I've.

Speaker 6 (35:44):
Seen from Tyler Booker so far just said it. He
carries himself like a veteran. I think he's the communication
that he's had so far with the offensive line, not
necessarily on the line of scrimmage, but in the huddle
off to the side. Its genuinely feels like he's been
here before. He's acting like he's been there before. And
it's something that I think is going to impact a

(36:04):
player like Tyler Goydon, who came in last year saying
all the right things, but I think kind of halfway
through lost his confidence a bit, just kind of get
the mental game around it all. So far, granted, first week,
Tyler Booker seems to have that confidence in spades, and
I think a player like Tyler Gotton is going to
feed off of that. And as long as the communication

(36:25):
is there and as long as they're clanging and banging
on the offensive line, you're going to continue to see
confidence grow across the line and become whole. I'm really
excited about it. What can you guys tell me about
Tyler Booker so far?

Speaker 7 (36:39):
So far, he looks looks the part. I mean obviously
physically looks the part. Like you said, He's carrying himself
both on and off the field like a professional. He's
he's holding up well against you know, guys like Solomon
Thomas for example.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
And by the way, Solomon Thomas looks pretty damn good
out there.

Speaker 7 (36:55):
There's a couple of plays where Tyler Smith handled him,
because Tyler Smith is Tyler Smith.

Speaker 1 (36:59):
But there a couple of players.

Speaker 6 (37:00):
With twins, Solomon Thomas, a.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
Couple of twins.

Speaker 7 (37:04):
I see the resemblance exactly, mostly in the chiseled form.
That's really where it boils down.

Speaker 6 (37:09):
I'm wearing a long sleep. You don't see these biceps.

Speaker 7 (37:12):
That's because you're trying to get them to focus on
what we're saying and not detract from And I respect
and I appreciate that. Let's share the camera with Tommy
and I the podcast.

Speaker 9 (37:23):
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Speaker 7 (37:28):
But Tyler Booker, like you said, he's he's doing everything right.
It is early in camp. I can't say that he's
as a rookie standing out as as Raku is. But
that's not a knock to Tyler Booker. That's simply more
and more credit to Ezraku. And of course these are
different positions as well, so you have to assess a
defense on the offensive lineman differently than you assess an
edge rusher. But I like what I'm saying from Tyler Booker.

(37:50):
He's I will say this, he's not getting pushed around.
He's not getting pushed around.

Speaker 8 (37:54):
Well, he's doing the pushing around.

Speaker 9 (37:55):
I think yesterday was the day where I I I
saw the best rep we've seen from Tyler Booker. I mean,
he he took Mazzie Smith and just completely moved came
out of the way, and Cooper BB went up to
the next level, took the linebacker route and Javonte Williams
probably had the most running room in front of him

(38:18):
that he has had since college. I mean, it was
just the sea parted, and it was all because of
what Booker did to Massie. And I'm not saying Mazzie
Smith is you know, that's a whole different and he
lost that rep. It's one rep.

Speaker 8 (38:31):
You know, he still needs to take the next step.

Speaker 9 (38:33):
But man, that was the play where you know, afterwards
you see the how just how giant the hole was
for the running back to run through, and you go
back and say.

Speaker 8 (38:43):
Well, how did that happen?

Speaker 9 (38:44):
Tyler Booker, I mean just completely threw him out of
the club and that was the best rep we've seen.
But he's a road grader, right, That's what he was
at Alabama. This is a guy who is going to
pave the way. He moves really well. When you see
him run onto the field, you know he's not the
most athletic guy.

Speaker 8 (39:01):
It's not a problem.

Speaker 9 (39:02):
He is plenty athletic For a guy as size, you
don't need a Gazelle playing right guard for him. He's
a strong dude, and you saw it on that play
because Mosei.

Speaker 8 (39:11):
Smith's not weak either. Like he's a strong guy and
he's known for his strength. But that Rep Man Booker
just tell it was unbelievable. And you know that's both.

Speaker 6 (39:21):
Sides of the ball. But I think we need to
address the defensive side our next show.

Speaker 8 (39:26):
Right, Uh, did.

Speaker 7 (39:28):
You have any Yeah, I want to using what you
said as a segue about Tyler Booker and thanks for
the lau, I'm going to.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
Go to Tyler Goyton.

Speaker 7 (39:35):
There's some easily low hanging fruit that's justified. If I
wanted to say George Pickens, for example, if I wanted
to say Ceedee Lamb, I could say those two things
and be.

Speaker 1 (39:45):
Very well justified in doing so.

Speaker 7 (39:47):
But I want to give credit to a young man
who is taking strides that are much needed at Dak
Prescott's blind side to hopefully keep that Prescott clean upright healthy.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
Is Tyler Goyton. What I'm seeing from Tyler Guyton in
the offse is in the first.

Speaker 7 (40:01):
Two practices at least it's beginning to translate over onto
the field. We already knew that Tyler Goyton had exceptional footwork,
particularly stemming from his days as a basketball player.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
His footwork is just fairly exceptional.

Speaker 7 (40:12):
It was his hand work, it was some of his strength,
it was his ability to move his mask right. There
was a little bit too much unnecessary mass on his
frame last year.

Speaker 1 (40:20):
So what does he do? He changes his diet.

Speaker 7 (40:21):
Completely cuts out fried foods, goes mostly protein. I mean,
we see the guy working out in the rain doing
boxing drills. He's working on his hands, that work that
he's put in two hand placement, strength, ability to punch,
ability to strike. He's doing a lot of work with
none other than Tyron Smith. Okay, this offseason trying to
figure out how to get some of those techniques and

(40:43):
translate them, and you're seeing it.

Speaker 1 (40:45):
Does he win every rep?

Speaker 7 (40:46):
No, But I've seen him win multiple reps against Dante Fowler.
Then we just say Dante was coming in hot, and
yet Dante's not winning every rep against Tyler Gotton. I've
seen him get Stonewall a couple of times by gutting.
There was another one. Marshaw Kneeland just yes, Marshawn gave
guy in a fantastic dip bend, but getting used that
against him because guyton knew that it was an outside

(41:08):
run and so all he did was used it to
seal him off completely. And that was the play. I
believe that Deuce Vaughan basically just took off run.

Speaker 1 (41:14):
Right.

Speaker 7 (41:14):
So when you start to see Tyler got and take
these strides and his confidence is definitely there, the motivation
is there.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
I'm going to give the young man his due.

Speaker 7 (41:22):
We'll see ultimately if he can continue to stack good days.
But thus far, he's stacking some really good days.

Speaker 6 (41:27):
The technique for Tyler Gouden has improved on a huge level,
just seeing the way that he's like stoic as the
defensive end is bending around him and then he's able
to keep his back straight. They talked about it yesterday
on the break very impressively. Check that out on Dallas
Cowboys dot com Third Greek podcast under Talking Cowboys.

Speaker 7 (41:48):
But really quickly before you throw to Tommy, because we
love our we love our commentest we do. I gotta
say this call out says Tyler got and got destroyed yesterday.
If you're talking about that rep from Ezra, anybody would
have gotten destroyed.

Speaker 1 (42:02):
Did you see the get off.

Speaker 7 (42:04):
The getoff was so good it looked like it was
off sides, but it wasn't off sides.

Speaker 1 (42:08):
Bottom line. Also, everyone's not.

Speaker 7 (42:10):
Going to win every rep, of course, So Tyler gotton
lost that rep, just like Mazzie lost that rip when
he got walked out of the club by Tyler Booker.

Speaker 1 (42:17):
It happens.

Speaker 7 (42:18):
So I agree with you he got smoked on that
particular rep. But I'm telling you, as those of us
are out here that are clocking his reps, he's winning
far more often than he's losing.

Speaker 6 (42:26):
Call out, don't try and calls out, don't.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
Do it, no matter.

Speaker 7 (42:30):
Just to clarify, I appreciate the comment, but let me
let me add context to that.

Speaker 9 (42:33):
Fair enough, fair enough, Yeah, offensive stand out for me
is Jonathan Mingo.

Speaker 8 (42:39):
I thought he's had.

Speaker 9 (42:39):
I thought he's stacked up in some pretty good days
here so far. You know, this is a guy who,
you know, he's taking some first team reps, some second
team rep. So I think it's good that he gets,
you know, a little bit of connection with Joe Milton
and Dak Prescott. You know, this is a guy who
I think could really play himself into that wide receiver
four wide receiver five range. I think, you know, when

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you look at behind George Pickens and Ceedee Lamb, you've
got Cavante Turpin, Jonathan Mingo, and Jalen Tolbert as kind
of the three names to watch there. You know, is
unless you know a guy like Jalen Brooks or Ryan
Flinoy starts to make a runner Jalen Cropper.

Speaker 8 (43:16):
So but Mingo.

Speaker 9 (43:17):
The last couple of days, you know, we've kind of
joked about how man, if Mingo could have gotten a
good pass last year, maybe he's maybe he gets a
little bit better. I feel like every time they threw
in the ball, it is like, man, people rush just
threw it off the back of the defender's helmet, Like,
how's this guy supposed to have a chance. So you're
seeing some of the reasons why the Cowboys felt that

(43:40):
Jonathan Mingo was good enough to trade a fourth round
pick for.

Speaker 8 (43:43):
And obviously, the last time they.

Speaker 9 (43:45):
Traded a fourth round pick for a player before Mingo,
it didn't work out the way they wanted it to.
So is this a guy who can find his role
on this team and maybe tap into some of the
potential that we saw coming out of old miss because
there was a lot of it.

Speaker 8 (43:58):
This guy's second round pick.

Speaker 9 (43:59):
He looked really good on film in college, and you
saw some of the flashes and now you're starting to
see some of them again.

Speaker 8 (44:07):
I think you know this is the one that threw.

Speaker 9 (44:09):
I think he and Joe Milton have really connected a
couple of times to where you say, Okay, he's having
he's having a solid camp. There was one throw where
Milton kind of put it maybe a yard or two
past him and he dove out just couldn't get there.

Speaker 8 (44:19):
I was I think it was more on Milton than
it was on him.

Speaker 9 (44:22):
But Jonathan Mingo has been making more plays than not,
and I think it's it's a promising start. And now
we just see Canny start mixing in with the first team,
and Canny start connecting with Dak Prescott and building that
trust with Dak Prescott a little bit more to where
they trust him to go with that unit too and
make plays.

Speaker 6 (44:40):
It's interesting that I feel like we all picked really solid,
obviously offensive standouts. There's one that I was just staying
away from personally. I don't know if you guys got this,
and like you also didn't want to choose the one
that everyone else is gonna choose, so none of us
choose him.

Speaker 1 (44:56):
George Pickens, that was the low hanging. It was a
five fruit that I didn't want to pick.

Speaker 6 (45:01):
I didn't want to pick him either because because it's
so easy to It's goodness, it's so easy. It's so
fun watching him out here. The chemistry that alluded to
it earlier. We just have a few minutes. Guys, what
is it like seeing a wide receiver that can not
only complement CD but is almost just as dangerous as

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CD lamb with the starting offense.

Speaker 7 (45:25):
Well, first of all, go dogs, let's let's start there, okay, right,
So the fact that you know he's a product smart
is no surprise to me.

Speaker 1 (45:37):
It's no surprise. It's sour product. He's a product of.

Speaker 7 (45:40):
The National Championship program out of Athens.

Speaker 1 (45:43):
So seeing him right now, so see.

Speaker 7 (45:49):
So seeing him translate. I even got the red and
black on in honor of George Pickens. So seeing him
translate that into onto the NFL field for the Dallas
Cowboys in tandem with a cold setting all pro n
cdee lamb. I called him the Terror Twins for a reason,
and it's because I don't see how you can defend

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both of them when.

Speaker 1 (46:10):
It's so difficult to defend one of them.

Speaker 7 (46:12):
And then, by the way, there are other weapons that
are going to step up, like Jake Ferguson is looking
to have. Okay, you can relax, Texas, we're back, We're
back to talking.

Speaker 8 (46:20):
I talked about Texas a lot. My goodness, you do
you do?

Speaker 1 (46:24):
But hey, you know your your school is your school.

Speaker 6 (46:27):
No players are from the art institu seriously, man, or
else I'd be talking about them seriously though.

Speaker 1 (46:33):
Man.

Speaker 7 (46:33):
George Pickens, like we talked about at the top of
the episodes, having the time of his life. He makes
every catch look easy, even in the drills when he
did the same round and he just caught it with
one hand and just left it in that. This is
that come on, come on guy, And that's what the
Cowboys are getting with George Pickens. It's going to be
a sight to behold.

Speaker 1 (46:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (46:51):
Yeah, Pickens gives you an extra dimension. And I don't
think we've really seen what George Pickens is best at yet.

Speaker 8 (46:57):
Because he's the go up and get it guy.

Speaker 9 (46:59):
And I mean this part of training camp, they're not
really throwing a lot of go up and get it passes.

Speaker 6 (47:05):
So well, yes, it was a go down and get it. Yeah,
it was at.

Speaker 9 (47:10):
His feet and Dak Prescott is putting it on the
right spot on a quick outright. I think George Pickens
is a lot better after the catch than we're giving
him credit for it.

Speaker 8 (47:17):
I'm not saying he got I don't know if I'd.

Speaker 9 (47:20):
Go as far to say turbo boosters, but he's not
saying he's turpid.

Speaker 1 (47:25):
He's not.

Speaker 9 (47:25):
He's not the fastest guy on the field, but he
is more than advocate after the catch. And I think that,
you know, if he can continue to build on that
aspect of his game and and do that just because
I mean, he's a freak show athlete, so you know
he add that component into it.

Speaker 8 (47:38):
And you know, Dak Prescott's gonna have a lot of
fun this year.

Speaker 9 (47:40):
I think with those two and I talked about it
on the website when we did our twenty Questions series.
You know, in terms of who makes the first their
first Pro Bowl this year, I think it's George Pickens.
I think he's gonna have that good of a year
and the Cowboys offense to where he can go to
Hawaii or wherever they're having that thing.

Speaker 7 (47:55):
Now, I agree, and keep in mind, George Pickens is
now being moved around a lot more than he's ever
been in his career.

Speaker 1 (48:01):
So you're gonna see him at multiple spots.

Speaker 7 (48:02):
You're gonna see him line up opposite ceed Lamb, You're
gonna see him going motion to be on the same
side of CD and vice versa. They're moving him around.
They're gonna get him over the top for go and
get it balls. But he's gonna work underneath as well
with these quick slants and these quick hitters to get
him in position to do yards after the catch against
some of these slower linebackers. So George Pickens, I agree
this this is setting up to be a Pro Bowl

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season for him.

Speaker 6 (48:23):
It's nice having options once. I mean, seriously, I'm sure
Dak is gonna have it.

Speaker 1 (48:29):
You know how long it's been.

Speaker 9 (48:30):
I can't wait until finally Georgia at some point never
gonna let him.

Speaker 6 (48:36):
Gotta go, We gotta go, all right, boys, thank you
so much for tuning in. We appreciate you. That'll do
it for this edition of Talking Cowboys from Oxnard, California.
So long, Talking Cowboys on Dallas Cowboys dot com.

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